The 1996 Cajon pass runaway 23 years later
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2019
- Note: The simulation is not mine! it belongs to ConrailFan76
This one almost got cancelled. The story was my friend Staszek had his Mac take a dump on him as soon as he was going to start editing last week. He still hasn't heard back from the repair shop so poor me had to spend 2 hours rushing to finish this video and I'm glad It's finally done. This video wraps up the Cajon Pass trilogy as I like to call it now. Expect a few more extra ones this month.
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It's ironic that the two crew members who jumped out died but the engineer who stayed with the train was the only one that survived.
Weird
Driving I-5 through the Grapevine covers much of that same treacherous downhill terrain. Driving a heavy truck down that steep grade is no fun either.
Neon Railfan 911
Well, in some ways having lots of tons of steel around you like a cage is better than tumbling out at speed possibly into rocks, trees!
@@HobbyOrganist as the expression goes hindsight is always 20:20. Truth is no one knew exactly what would happen. The locomotive cab may not always be the safe place for train drivers in a crash. As an irish railway fan I always wonder would have been better to remove the pesticide from the train. May have avoided a fire thus making it more survivable. I don't understand why hazardous material is carried on trains like shown here . In ireland we used to have anhydrous ammonia tankers going to the IFI fertiliser plant in Shelton Abbey County Wicklow . They always had thier own trains.
"Can it get worse?"
If there is only one certainty in this word: It can ALWAYS get worse.
Well hello otter from 8 months ago well you’re right SHIT GETS WORSE
Tanall especially at cajon
Rule of thumb: Do not ask if anything can get worse. Things usually tend to get worse.
@@patricklee1633Another rule of thumb: an army will almost always appear if you say, “You and what army?”
Kinda ironic that the only guy who didnt jump was the only one who survived
True
Kinda ironic the place kept jinxing themselves.
But haw? So Lucky
The only explanation I have for that is the physics of the crash. The only hard impact he suffered was the locomotive slamming on it's side flush without the nose impaling itself into the ground and the velocity sent the GP60M sliding far enough to escape the center point of the crash (Hence why the 2 yellow-bonnet locomotives were destroyed) it's similar to the physics of the 1989 runaway that happened years prior only the cab of the leader of 7551 east was shredded making the engineer of that train suffer worse injuries than the engineer in this wreck. I've noticed in some crashes involving over speed that the engineer has a higher chance of survival when staying with his engines compared to that of normal derailments so long as the nose stays mostly intact.
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren a captain always goes down with his ship, as should engineers and conductors of a locomotive.
I was there in a big truck. That derailment and fire was something I'll never forget.
Stuff like that will haunt you for life.
lucky you survived
@@RobDaCoolE1 Bruh he would survive he was in a truck not a train.
really?!? wow
Did you have a dashcam I'm just asking
Basically your brake fail and you become the passenger.
2:48
The B unit is like "Hi there!"
I preffer the tanker car through the locamotive
2:45 4031 is like: bye dudes
The brakeman, Kevin Williams, had been a football star for the University of Southern California (USC). He caught 71 passes for 1358 yards and 25 touchdowns. The touchdown reception record was still standing when he was killed.
Has it ever been beaten? I'm not big into football
I was never really into trains, I’m not into them, but I’m hooked into these vidoes
2 years later and I still revisit these videos
XtraVanze X7 is my old account
Same
Wow Thunder! Best one yet! Thanks for borrowing some of my lines from when I narrated EdwardJSmithTitanic’s video! I collaborated with him on that video. I’ve been waiting since December for this and now we have it! Awesome job!
Yeah no problem.
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren one of the locomotives involved in the Saint Paul Minnesota train crash was Canadian Pacific EMD SD40-2 5725
@TTTE FAN 8623 We know.
@@RyansColoradoRailProductions good :)
It's so cool to see ya two in one comment
How is this guys reanimattion skills not being talked about? that was spot on for sure
Its a game called trainz
When you realize the only survivor was the one who stayed on the train
**laughs in ironic**
The driver survived because there's a much higher chance of surviving in the cab rather than bailing out.
@BNSFSantaFe603 true since you have the locomotive as a shield unless the locomotive gets on fire
Jumping out only really works at like 20-30 mph
that curve has taken out 4 trains from what i have read on wikiwand, so that pass is not only a hair pin curve but the downslope is probably too steep
GP type locomotives look weird as B units.
why?
Also if they have modern cabs
I think they look kinda cool
You make the best train crash history videos on RUclips
Agreed
Agreed
I wouldn't say it's the best. I do enjoy the effort of historical information and utilization of sources, makes it very accurate. But the animations and voiceovers just don't fit in well and don't do the effort of editing the video any justice at all.
It was named "Cajon Pass" because it takes real _cajones_ to take your train down it.
I’m actually spanish and I approve that joke as funny xD
WHAT?!
ya go down it, ya fill them *cajones*
@@juggernaughty8189 Lack cojones and fill the cajones. ( yeah, saw the misspelling when I posted, but figured people would know what I meant anyway )
Pathetic.
Just a quick correction on your video, (I'm currently an engineer for the BNSF), you showed the independent brake being used to plug the train. We use the automatic brake valve for that. (I'm sure it was just a simple oops in your production so it's ok haha)
As a result of these derailments, all heavy mountain grade subdivisions require a rear-end telemetry device which can engage the emergency brake from the rear for exactly this situation. You all may recognize this as the FRED at the rear, or flashing rear end device.
Kensington Chapp how long have u been an engineer? Could u give some tips to someone who is planning on becoming a engineer?
@@NOVARailandWeatherEnthusiast Tips? Don't become one.
I call these crashes “The Cajon Curse”
Edit:30 likes? Woah
Edit 2: 50 Likes!? Woah!
Edit 3: 100 Likes?! I did not expect this!
Edit 4: 211 LIKES!? HOW THE HELL IS MY COMMENT SO POPULAR!?
Also nice trainz footage.
The footage is from EdwardJSmithTitanic.
Ikr.cajon pass is a cursed town
Yeah he should make a play list of this
Not Telling I believe that the cajon pass is cursed by builders or something...
I would agree, thus place is either haunted or a really fucking bad place for trains to be.
History needs to be remembered.
To ignore or forget is often fatal.
If we do not learn from our mistakes in the past. We're doomed to repeat them
The explosion effects 10/10 😂
@ConrailFan76
OH ok. 🛫
Also you earned a subscriber. 😂
Ian was that your footage
BLEVE - has, with some serious jest, be also said to mean "blast leveling everything very effectively."
SBEVE or
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@@nicholaslokos7949 I don't think you know how an acronym works
@@brendancross2767 I wanna r/whoosh you so badly but I just need to say... it's a joke, I know what an acronym is and how it works.
@nicholaslokos, if you wanna, you might wanna do it fast because I want to R/woosh him and dozens of other people want to as well.
@@brendancross2767 /r/WHOOOSH
It's great that the two Santa Fe locomotives 157 & 342 still exist and right now they are painted and respelled into BNSF.
I saw BNSF GP60M 157 at the NCTD Coaster shop in Oceanside
@@crazyrailfan I saw 157 back in December 22nd 2019.
I never saw them but they should save them for preservation
@@amtrakproductions-mx9ib I agree.
General Merchandise was my favorite type of cargo on the train.
other youtubers dont make the documentary as dramatic, i love your videos because there suspenseful and dramatic, keep up the good work!
Wow great and fantastic job on the video! This is one of the best and one of my most favorite train wreck videos ever! R.I.P for the conductor and the brakeman of the accident 😔.
24 December 1953 Tangiwai Disaster next?
Lets give the New Zealanders some love.
@SebTheThomasFan1 Japanlians Matter more.
Tomori spotted. Good taste.
Maby just cool ur beans he will get to ur crashes soon
@SebTheThomasFan1 You would have taken note of the 50th Anniversary of the Southern Aurora crash then?
SebTheThomasFan1 agreed
Today marks the 25th anniversary of the third cajon pass runaway and may those two crew members who lost their lives Rest In Peace. But even though a train hasn't runaway on the pass thx to positive train control along with braking systems to stop leaks I myself and dozens are wondering, have we seen the last runaway train? I'm praying we won't ever have another one in the future.
Just before dawn on February 1st, 1996 just before Valentine's Day, another Santa Fe Freight Train brakes failed, 4 locomotives and 45 cars derailed at the curve and explored into a fireball at 4:10 am in the middle of the 🌙, 2 crew members were killed and Engineer was injured the crash. In the end, 3853 and 4031 met faith under the scrapper's toruch. 157 a GP60 and 342 GP60B were saved still operates today for BNSF.
Thank you for another quality video. I feel sad that these people died but I also enjoy that I finally found your channel again. Hopefully the people who lost their lives in this wreck and previous wreckes in your videos will find peace, my the gods have mercy on their souls
ME: I want to be a train engineer
*Sees a Thunderbolt1000 Siren Productions video*
ME: Never mind.
I still wanna be an engineer
Exactly
YAY FINALLY CAJON PASS IVE BEEN WAITING FOREVER FOR THIS CRASH VIDEO!!!!
These videos are so well done and entertaining!! I learn so much. Great job on another amazing video!
My aunt actually went to the crash site to see if any animals were hurt in the crash. It's sad that the 2 crew members that jumped didn't make it, but also surprising that the engineer survived who stayed with the train. Press F for the 2 crew members that bailed.
My grandpa was actually the engineer that survived. i thank god everyday that he stayed with his train and did not jump.
@@loreefoster406proof?
Your style of video is very unsettling. Which is good. Unsettling is good.
LoL unsettling
Unsettling is good
@@QuirkyKitsune
*ThE fUrRy HaS jOiNeD tHe ChAt.*
@Carol Ziegler
Ass
@Carol Ziegler EVERY TRAIN HAS WHEELS
Suggestion: The Al Ayyat Train Disaster
Year: 2002
Location: Egypt
Deaths: 350+
Anonymous I think the official death count is 383
I am always going to be here for your videos. They're great
I see you everywhere related to trains
@@moisesm9602 I really like videos about stuff like this.
My god it’s like the trains have a mind of their own
Hint! Hint!
but we can control them!
Or can we???
(cue Moonmen by Jake Chudnow)
At this point Trains are a man made force of nature... and just like a tornado, they seem to have a mind and will of their own.
it doesnt have its own mind, it just didnt work rigth
@@johntravoltahauntsmydreams1040 did you really think that had to be said?..
If he says “and then disaster struck" one more time...
Also I love the animations
Its a game, its called Trainz
Amazing work great telling of this disaster hope to see more keep up the good work
Thunderbolt, these videos amaze me. My grandparents used to live in Hesperia, and I went through Cajon pass a lot.
You might find this interesting also...in addition to having an ETD at the rear for emergency brake applications, we also have new rules about when we have to plug the train. If a train overspeeds by 5mph and the engineer can't regain control (on Cajon Pass), we are required to place the train into emergency both from the automatic brake AND the rear end telemetry device. I personally had this happen to me as a conductor. My engineer couldn't get the train under control and he panicked instead of plugging it, so i plugged it. Our train came to a verrrrry gradual stop right at the exact location of the derailment in this video. Right in front of the memorial. I walked the train, tying hand brakes along the way, and eventually found a partially closed angle cock which was the reason for our weak brakes. We spent 3 hours on the hill spinning every handbrake, then recharging the air brakes, then knocking off every hand brake. But the physical labor was an acceptable trade off for still being alive haha
I saw that explosion of that engine
If you go through Cajon, test TEST THE DAMM BRAKES!! WAY EARLIER AND CHECK EVERYTHING BEFORE
Better options:
If the route goes through Cajon Pass, call in sick
Don't be a train engineer
Nice documentary! I look forward to the Secaucus and Silver Springs Crash coming next!
Stunning. Keep up the great work!
Ayy, the 3rd cajon. Awesome, thunderbolt. Your good with what you do.
Yes the next Cajon pass vid thank you, keep up the good work
I really like this series! Please make more!
Your voice pitch range is jolly remarkable. So I've remarked upon it.
this channel, is pretty noice, i like how you used trainz. you have earned a new sub
Depressing that this is trilogy. Peace out to all victims. :(
Yeah D:
amazing work of art!! very entertaining, cant wait to see more..
2:33 I like the sound effects when the train crashes. Good job!
Thanks. That's kind of a strong suit I have in these videos. I try and make the crashes sound as real as possible (Even if most of the time the sound effects are generic) and syncing certain effects to certain moments of the crash. That explosion sound was very difficult to sync but it fit so well. Even in some videos where it fades to a black screen, the sounds help you picture the crash in your mind giving you a terrifying image.
334th comment!
Glad to see you where able to still upload, keep up the great work! :)
Could you do the 1987 CN Nepisiguit Subdivision runaway that happened in New Brunswick. There is recorded audio from it between the dispatcher, engineer, conductor, and a nearby section foreman. Very chilling to listen to and a very cool story in the end.
Great Documentary Man dang Cajon pass has a lot of history also at my Railfanning area it had 4 wrecks 1 Collision and 3 derailments
Great video, I always find these things interesting :)
Amazing! 👍
Can You the 1996 St Paul Minnesota Train Wreck on February 14.
I actually want to see that now, I live within 10 miles from there and yet somehow I have never heard of it!
I love the serious and eerie tone in these videos.
I have a little request to give South America some love :P
The 17 February 1986 Queronque Rail disaster, the worst train wreck in the chilean history. There are even some (maybe) NSFW photographs.
love your stuff!! been subbed a while, keep it up!
2:37
*Me Jumps Out The Train*
*NOPE*
I've been waiting all day for this
Great job! Love your vids!
i like how this is a lit real life recreation of the 1989 SP runaway
I’ve been waiting on this 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Same
This is amazing and it’s great
I would never have guessed at the time that 157 was in a wreck let alone this one. I've seen 157 working the branchline along the 215 North/South freeway in Riverside, CA fairly recently.
These documentaries are fascinating to watch.
YYAAASSSS
Rip atsf bluebonnets.
I remember that crash when I was 7 years old back in '96
El Cajon Pass was the toughest 2.2% precent grade of trains try reach at the bottom of the grade
Three wrecks 1989, 1994, and 1996. The memories of the El Cajon Pass Derailments will haunt them in their dreams of the crash
El Cajon Pass will still be the toughest 2.2% precent grade of all in California
Thomas, I know a lot of train wrecks, crashes, derailments, and cars get struck by a train I Know all of it a lot
In three months on may 12th, this will Mark the 30th Anniversary of
The first El Cajon Pass Derailment where it all started back on May 12th, 1989 where it all begin
I did watch all 3 El Cajon Pass Derailments reminds me of all
The train crashes we remember that trains had try to reach down at the bottom of the hill
Thomas, you did great
You did a great job narrating
Proud of you Bro👊
I will always be here for you
I will keep on watching this channel of more train derailments
If you need me Bro, I'm here
🎸🤘 Keep on Rockin and Rollin RockStar Bro 🤘 🎸
It’s Cajon Pass, not El Cajon. El Cajon is near San Diego, way south of this.
I’m a huge fan of these videos. They are awesome and entertaining. Keep it up. 👍
Can you do the Panhandle wreck that was in Texas🚂
I second that
I will be doing it on June 28th.
Good luck with that Ryan Colorado Rail Productions
Why don’t you do it? Instead of sitting around waiting, buy the editing software and as the Cable Guy said: “Git ‘er done”.
@@Matthew_Eitzman It will always be released on the anniversary.
Wheres my foamer squad?
“The car’s Chance had come” “Hurrah, Hurrah” They Laughed, Banging their buffers they pushed him down the hill.
Ringo Starr, 1984
Thank you for making this finally of the Cajon Pass runaways. 👌👍♥️ What will your next train accident video be on?
Good job. These videos are wonderfully made (as wonderful as making a documentary about trains crashing and burning).
I actually did some digging and found these photos of atsf 157 and 342 after the runaway ( www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=52725 and www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=52723 ).
I also have two suggestions for documentary’s. The first one being the Tennessee pass runaway in 1989 (www.drgw.net/info/TP1989Wreck ) mostly because it’s the reason why the drgw got the gp60s and its also why drgw 5402 is now an sd40-2 and drgw 3108 is on kcs instead of Union Pacific . And the Tennessee pass runaway of 1994 ( www.drgw.net/info/TP1994Wreck )
Sorry I didn’t have to much to say
Can you do a documentary about the Wellington disaster
so much can go wrong so easily with these bad boys
Putting the train in reverse was actually a good idea tbh, minus the fact that the other cars could ram in from behind, but if you do it right and all that nice jazz it would have slowed it down and stopped it. I give the guy an applause for trying
Notification squad! Im a huge fan 😄
Same!
Same
*enough is enough*
Same as well
@@xX_Sm0key0lB0y_Xx *and enough is also infinity* (completely explodes)
Could you do the St. Paul runaway
I I have been waiting forever fort this bideo!!
FINALLY! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! been waiting so long dude!
hello thunderbolt 1000 siren productions This A request for a video. can you make the 2003 metra train accident in chicago where 2 trains collide. If you dont have enough time to make this its ok. Also im a big fan love your videos
Who's idea was it to build a railroad in cajon pass well whoever's idea it was it was a terrible idea
It's by far the best way to get from SoCal to the northeast.
There was another bad wreck in Cajon Pass on March 6, 1978, where a section of the new mainline washed out, due to heavy rainfall that winter, and the line relocation in 72 didn't figure for the runoff. So a wall of water came down that mountain and washed out the embankment the tracks were supported on. Two men were killed and two jumped, but had severe injuries. I notice that afterwards, both SP and Santa Fe built bridges across that area, figuring for future runoff.
8:14 that really gave me chills
That track is cursed
Jeez another one?
The far sounds are like a relaxing and relaxes me
Today is the 28th anniversary of the el cajon pass runaway of 1996. In loving memory of Santa Fe 3853 and 4031 and the two crew members.
Gee, whens the next collision on this dangerous pass?
I’m sorry but that’s the last crash from the cajon pass
And I sure hope it stays that way
Not a good idea was the Cajon Pass.
Cajon is Spanish for box--it's actually a box canyon, leading up to the high desert.
Alexander Porgilton ,,,,Its the only way from Los Ángeles, Ca to Las Vegas, NV,,,,,,,,
This was put together very well I enjoyed it. I have a suggestion for the next one. It should be on the runaway ore train on the CN Nepisiguit Sub on March 9th, 1987.
Wow, you predicted it.
Thanks! I love your channel
I farted in a bucket one time.
You should do one about the CSX Newton falls Ohio derailment heard that was bad
Just thank you!
Nice trainz 2 re-enactment!
Also the music in the background is also heard in the tangiwai document