Just finished watching the interview to the end. Mark, you seem to have great resonance with Ken, one of the best among all the interviewers/conversants (Raquel Torrent also does amazing job in that regard). The conversation went smoothly. Thank you for your work, and please invite Ken again, many times! Also, Ken was spot on about the elections. I am so happy that his view of our world’s current mess is very sober.
It is so nice to see Colin (Bigelow) in the beginning of the interview. 12 years ago we (Dmitry Baranov and I) invited him and Clint Fuhs to Moscow, it was one of the best Integral events I have ever attended / co-created.
It's so cool to see that one of the brightest brains on the planet ALSO struggles with technology- just as I do- love the "I didn't touch anything" - I just said that yesterday with my work computer LOL -- Thanks for the Video 💙
The Embodiment Channel replied to my earlier comment saying: “The cultural turn towards wokeism is well documented and well defined by others. Wilber see it in terms of adult development and the “meme green meme”.” I tried replying to this comment, but my reply kept disappearing; so here is my reply: You say wokeism is well-documented and well-defined”? Well, here’s some of that documentation: From an ABC News article: “What Does Woke' Mean and Why are Some Conservatives Using It?” The subtitle of the article states that: “The definition of "woke" changes depending on who you ask.” By Kiara Alfonseca, January 23, 2024. Here’s NPR reporter Domenico Montanaro, in a transcript from a podcast entitled “What does the word 'woke' really mean, and where does it come from?”, JULY 19, 2023 “Modern Black activism and the Black Lives Matter movement used it widely as a rallying cry. At other times, the seriousness of the word has been diluted, used facetiously and ironically on social media. And now the word has been co-opted as a political slogan on the right…” “Republicans on the campaign trail are using it as something of a catchall to criticize anything on the progressive side of the political spectrum they don't like, whether it's teaching about racism in schools or gender transition policies or even books and libraries they deem inappropriate.” And a more rigorous attempt to define wokeism from Devina Ayona, at FISIP Dept. of International Relations. Here are the first two of her three characterizations of wokeism: “(1) a lack of academic literature using “wokeism” as their keyword; (2) political quarrels over the meaning of “wokeism”” “A Preliminary Overview of “Wokeism”: Three Major Issues for IR Research”, Sep 1, 2023 Like most concepts that become political footballs wokeism, despite or because it’s being used a lot, can have a wide variety of meanings. That’s why a serious discussion of it would need to define it. Something you nor Wilber do. This lapse on Wilber’s part reveals a central fault of Wilber’s grandiose intellectual system building: it is long on academic jargon and short on scholarly and empirical reality.
I tend to think in the same vein. But I think, Trump represents red + amber (blue in SDi) + orange. That's why his candidacy was so powerful in the first place. And Musk is likely cognitively at least teal altitude, though a lot of orange there. Have you read RFK Jr.’s book? It's fascinating-and also scary in terms of what he uncovered.
@@EugenePustoshkinThe fact that Kennedy is so viciously attacked by the current scientific community instead of debated with make me believe he is very close to the truth. Health, food and medicine is in better hands with him, so I believe.
Maybe just give us an example? Unless you, or he, or someone else can say what he means, what he says appears to be little more than ad hominem attacks, if only for someone as out of touch as I am.
It's hard to believe any serious social justice theorist (which should include most philosophers) would have issues with DEI efforts. Yes, it can be easy to make sport of the language at times, but our discomfort with pronouns pales next to the discrimination experienced by most of the world.
Start with Obama-endorsed political scientist Yascha Mounk's The Identity Trap (he prefers "identity synthesis" for the phenomenon commonly called wokeness). Then Batya Ungar-Sargon's Bad News: How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy. And sociologist Musa al-Gharbi's work on wokeness.
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Just finished watching the interview to the end. Mark, you seem to have great resonance with Ken, one of the best among all the interviewers/conversants (Raquel Torrent also does amazing job in that regard). The conversation went smoothly. Thank you for your work, and please invite Ken again, many times! Also, Ken was spot on about the elections. I am so happy that his view of our world’s current mess is very sober.
@@EugenePustoshkin thanks mate, appreciated
It is so nice to see Colin (Bigelow) in the beginning of the interview. 12 years ago we (Dmitry Baranov and I) invited him and Clint Fuhs to Moscow, it was one of the best Integral events I have ever attended / co-created.
Thank you! What a gem!
You're welcome!
It's so cool to see that one of the brightest brains on the planet ALSO struggles with technology- just as I do- love the "I didn't touch anything" - I just said that yesterday with my work computer LOL -- Thanks for the Video 💙
Did we not edit that out??! Oops
The Embodiment Channel replied to my earlier comment saying: “The cultural turn towards wokeism is well documented and well defined by others. Wilber see it in terms of adult development and the “meme green meme”.” I tried replying to this comment, but my reply kept disappearing; so here is my reply:
You say wokeism is well-documented and well-defined”? Well, here’s some of that documentation:
From an ABC News article: “What Does Woke' Mean and Why are Some Conservatives Using It?” The subtitle of the article states that: “The definition of "woke" changes depending on who you ask.” By Kiara Alfonseca, January 23, 2024.
Here’s NPR reporter Domenico Montanaro, in a transcript from a podcast entitled “What does the word 'woke' really mean, and where does it come from?”, JULY 19, 2023
“Modern Black activism and the Black Lives Matter movement used it widely as a rallying cry. At other times, the seriousness of the word has been diluted, used facetiously and ironically on social media. And now the word has been co-opted as a political slogan on the right…”
“Republicans on the campaign trail are using it as something of a catchall to criticize anything on the progressive side of the political spectrum they don't like, whether it's teaching about racism in schools or gender transition policies or even books and libraries they deem inappropriate.”
And a more rigorous attempt to define wokeism from Devina Ayona, at FISIP Dept. of International Relations. Here are the first two of her three characterizations of wokeism:
“(1) a lack of academic literature using “wokeism” as their keyword; (2) political quarrels over the meaning of “wokeism””
“A Preliminary Overview of “Wokeism”: Three Major Issues for IR Research”, Sep 1, 2023
Like most concepts that become political footballs wokeism, despite or because it’s being used a lot, can have a wide variety of meanings. That’s why a serious discussion of it would need to define it. Something you nor Wilber do.
This lapse on Wilber’s part reveals a central fault of Wilber’s grandiose intellectual system building: it is long on academic jargon and short on scholarly and empirical reality.
I’m not part of your cult, nor the biased Maoist academia that supports it.
Enjoy your new President. All the best.
@@Theembodimentchannel Don’t you have any integrity at all?
Trump represent red/blue
Musk represent orange
Kennedy represent green
Tulsi represent yellow/turquoise
I tend to think in the same vein. But I think, Trump represents red + amber (blue in SDi) + orange. That's why his candidacy was so powerful in the first place. And Musk is likely cognitively at least teal altitude, though a lot of orange there. Have you read RFK Jr.’s book? It's fascinating-and also scary in terms of what he uncovered.
@@EugenePustoshkinThe fact that Kennedy is so viciously attacked by the current scientific community instead of debated with make me believe he is very close to the truth.
Health, food and medicine is in better hands with him, so I believe.
@@danielvermeulen1110 I am reading his book now. RFK Jr. has done amazing job at communicating all the medical atrocities that were committed.
THIS is what Ken says is crazy about our era???!!
Wokeness: the quality of being alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.
That’s not what it is and you know it…be honest
Maybe just give us an example? Unless you, or he, or someone else can say what he means, what he says appears to be little more than ad hominem attacks, if only for someone as out of touch as I am.
It's hard to believe any serious social justice theorist (which should include most philosophers) would have issues with DEI efforts. Yes, it can be easy to make sport of the language at times, but our discomfort with pronouns pales next to the discrimination experienced by most of the world.
Start with Obama-endorsed political scientist Yascha Mounk's The Identity Trap (he prefers "identity synthesis" for the phenomenon commonly called wokeness). Then Batya Ungar-Sargon's Bad News: How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy. And sociologist Musa al-Gharbi's work on wokeness.