USMNT EMBARRASSED By Mexico: USA 0-2 Mexico Post-Match Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @matthewwhite444
    @matthewwhite444 Месяц назад +3

    love it boys, seen way too many casuals brush this result off like it doesn’t matter

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      It’s not even the result, it’s how we got to that result. The main thing we’re frustrated about is the complete lack of mentality and quality, not the actual loss.

  • @Xar22297
    @Xar22297 Месяц назад +7

    I agree with your Miles rating, he was horrendous! He got megged at least twice and was losing headers to players 6 inches shorter!

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +3

      It seemed like he found a new way to be horrible every 10 minutes or so. Hopefully we never see with the USMNT again.

  • @clashking795
    @clashking795 Месяц назад +3

    My takeaway from the game: Poor management! Why are we playing out of the back when Mexico is pressing us so high. The last few games against Mexico, we played very direct and were able to get in behind their backline. I don't buy in to this narrative that this one was all on the players when they (specifically Morris and Aaronson) are being asked to do things they aren't good at (Morris playing out of the back under pressure, Aaronson being our main creator in the middle for the first half). Tactics were all wrong but I'll give poch the benefit of the doubt since it was his first camp

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +1

      Completely agree, there’s a lot of things that Poch got wrong. However, like you said, we have to remain patient and give him the benefit of the doubt. If we still look this bad after another two camps or so, then it’s time to ring the alarm bells.

  • @samogotamo
    @samogotamo Месяц назад +8

    Brandon Vazquez had some bright spots;outside Busio had a few shimmers; winning that single throw in after his drive , and Scallys attempts at making something happen by driving diagonally across the field.
    Aaronson might as well not be on the field.
    Paxten is SO clear.
    Musah was literally MIA
    Sargent had zero service.
    We played long balls with no real midfield presence to win the second header.
    That's why I still appreciate McKennie as fat as he is. He will win headers.
    Tessman coming on and stability was instantly realized in the midfield despite having a guy like Morris pairing up with him.
    A good player brings other players up to his level.
    And Tessman and Haji Wright were an example of that.
    I wish that Haji was sent out to the wing and not the striker position imo.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +1

      Props to Vazquez, he might be the only player in camp who raised his stock

  • @zyzzyx3160
    @zyzzyx3160 Месяц назад +5

    My TV almost didn't make it from all things I was throwing at it. This game was very sad. Our Euro guys were getting slapped by Liga MX guys.
    Actually, the only two guys that showed some fight were our Liga MX guys; too bad they don't have much skill.
    Tillman was the biggest disappointment. Yes, he was being played out of position most of the game, but man, sis he look disinterested. Maybe the intensity was too much for him. It was clearly too much for most of our players. Looked like Mexico was playing with 12 on the field. They were always in correct positions.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      You could make the argument that they were playing with 12 because of the ref, but it was sad that no one besides Zendejas and Vazquez (maybe Aaronson) looked like they actually cared.

  • @gushibbo
    @gushibbo Месяц назад +12

    Aiden Morris, Brenden Aaronson, Yunus Musah and Josh Sargent should not be back on the roster anytime soon.

    • @BeachNisLife27369
      @BeachNisLife27369 Месяц назад

      Totally agree!!! Just call it what it is guys, I'll player pool is poor!!

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +1

      This camp raised a lot of concerns about our depth, and with the injury problems all our starters always seem to have, we can’t afford to have bad depth.

    • @CarlosGuzman-vi9xw
      @CarlosGuzman-vi9xw Месяц назад +4

      Give Morris a chance - he's young & needed this sobering moment. The other 3....... they've been here 5-6 years now?! NO EXCUSE.

    • @BeachNisLife27369
      @BeachNisLife27369 Месяц назад +1

      @@AMERICANULTRASTALK No, I get the injuries to our primary starters, load management, etc. I would just like to see move decisive passes and decision-making from players that have been playing soccer since birth....

    • @BeachNisLife27369
      @BeachNisLife27369 Месяц назад +1

      IMO, I think we see several new players called up to the next camp. Maybe Poch and coaching staff are giving most players two starts baring some poor performance....?

  • @carsonwlantz
    @carsonwlantz Месяц назад +1

    Great video as always guys.

  • @anlerden4851
    @anlerden4851 Месяц назад +4

    I'm really so sad and shocked like You both Dear Yuri and Dear Braden.😥😞🇺🇲🙏

  • @CarlosGuzman-vi9xw
    @CarlosGuzman-vi9xw Месяц назад +2

    Tessman & Busio PLAYED TOGETHER in Italy 🇮🇹, but Poch takes out Busion & keeps Morris on to play alongside Tess?!?! Poch is WAY better than GGG, but i think he needs more time to analyze this team.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      That was one of the biggest surprises to me. I would’ve started Tessmann and Busio together in the first place, but not giving them any minutes together all camp is baffling.

  • @dirks6550
    @dirks6550 Месяц назад +1

    What this shows us is our player depth is weak. Unfortunately a big load of our starters are hurt and the backups showed they are a big drop off in quality.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      Pete and Tac made a solid point in their postmatch livestream, some of these backups are solid role players but aren’t good starters at all. Unfortunately, with the injury issues we always seem to have, we need some backups who are capable starters.

  • @JJBrasileiroAmericanFL
    @JJBrasileiroAmericanFL Месяц назад +2

    Gregg’s handprint is still all over this squad and that is so clear to see because the only ones to play well were Busio, Vazquez, Tessmann and Zendejas, guys that hardly ever got a look under Gregg.

  • @gushibbo
    @gushibbo Месяц назад +2

    I agree with you, Poch didn’t care enough to do a good job, I wonder what he was doing this whole time he has been hired and didn’t have a camp.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +1

      I’ll be very interested to see what he does next camp in terms of roster selection. If it’s the same group again (plus some of the guys who are injured of course), that’ll be a little concerning.

    • @kronozkron9713
      @kronozkron9713 Месяц назад

      @gushibbo
      Pocheto went to McD this whole time.
      Just take a look at him.
      He was eating burgers like there was not tomorrow.
      That is apparently how he was wasting his time,
      instead of giving 110% training his team.
      The Burger Boy was a wrong hiring by the USMNT.

  • @EtotheLtotheP
    @EtotheLtotheP Месяц назад +1

    What a mess. Just depressing as a fan to see that kind of lack of effort and indifference by the players.
    Shoutout to Raúl Jiménez , who was him that game. He pretty much beat our entire squad single-handed Ku.
    Hopefully this was a wake up call to Poch. The key is whether he learns from it and uses it to improve. That is where I think we will (or at least should) see a difference between Poch and Berhalter. Gregg never changed anything really. I pray Poch makes adjustments 🙏🏽
    I’m not sure how much the injury situation will improve over the next two months before the next camp.
    Guys who should NOT be in the next camp: Sargent, Musah, Morris, Robinson, and Aaronson (which hurts, because I’m a big fan of the hustle he plays with). I won’t cry if they leave out Ream, Scally, Zendejas or Tillman.
    Assuming Dest and Adams still won’t be available, guys who SHOULD be at the next camp that weren’t at this one: Balogin, McKennie (OK he was there but didn’t play), Maloney, Richards, Tolkien, Weah, Reyna, and then either Yow or Luna as a winger.
    Hang in there, boys.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      Balogun and Reyna are still going to be injured most likely, could be the same for some of our other players as well. Hopefully the majority of them are back though and Poch makes some adjustments to the roster. Even if it’s not permanently dropping those players, it’s time to give some other guys a chance to prove themselves.

  • @Arker8374
    @Arker8374 Месяц назад +2

    If our A roster gave that kind of performance, I would be more concerned. Really just showing we don’t have as much depth as we would hope.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      True, but with all the injuries we seem to have every window, we need some depth pieces to start stepping up.

  • @history43487
    @history43487 Месяц назад +2

    Couldn't watch the game as I didn't have any of the streaming channels. But in watching the reactions, I'm actually happy our fans are so mad about this result. If GGG had suffered this loss the shill pundits would have covered for him and the fans would have just shrugged in resignation. The fact that we all (fans and media shills) are angry and demanding more means we're getting more serious as a footballing nation. Let Mexico celebrate - they had all their best players, and we had 2nd and 3rd stringers, and they're going to think they've changed the dynamic in the rivalry. It will come crashing down when all of our best players are back and Poch has a chance to install his tactics. Also, agree that Musah and Sargent and Aaronson don't need to be included in any further selections.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +2

      I will say, I like that everyone seems to be holding the players accountable because that didn’t happen much under Gregg.

    • @SantanaI-g4e
      @SantanaI-g4e Месяц назад

      Not all best players missing santi Marcel ruiz Cordova Flores huescas araujo chavez Lozano none of them played

    • @SantanaI-g4e
      @SantanaI-g4e Месяц назад

      Aguirre is still trying players out he made the best team he could from what he called up to try

    • @history43487
      @history43487 Месяц назад

      @@SantanaI-g4e Good point, forgot about their missing list. Not as many as ours, but still significant.

    • @BeHumbleAndLessArrogant
      @BeHumbleAndLessArrogant Месяц назад

      IMO, the next Mexico and Usmnt will be closer than what everyone thinks. El Tri, will certainly build from this and the Usmnt has once again took 1 step forward and two backwards. The next month will give a more clear picture in where both teams will be at. Honduras will be looking to win at home again where Jamaica will have some unfinished business to settle at their home.

  • @kylehicks9018
    @kylehicks9018 Месяц назад +1

    Just now waking up to the Championship being a just ok average league ranked by Opta 1 level below MLS.
    Maybe that's the reason why our Championship level guys have NEVER ever been significantly better than our MLS guys.
    Dual nats can be great as role players, but they're rarely stars and are often mercenaries that won't fight hard

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      I think that ranking is bs honestly, MLS isn’t a top 10 league in the world. Agree about dual nats, although often they’re very talented, just don’t care enough for it to matter.

  • @Canev821
    @Canev821 Месяц назад +2

    I’m so sad y’all. But I think poch should be given sometime

  • @bradensmith8006
    @bradensmith8006 Месяц назад +1

    What’s really frustrating about tillman besides all you mentioned is he has some really good moments that show what he can do like keep possession of the ball when there’s four on him

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +1

      He had a couple good moments against Panama and always has them for PSV. Outside of that, haven’t seen anything. We know there’s a player there, it’s becoming kind of clear that it’s a mentality problem.

  • @jngobngo
    @jngobngo Месяц назад +1

    It was embarrassing. 10 minutes in super naive tactics. An Aaronson back pass or us giving away possession in midfield, shocking stuff.

  • @GreedyGrom
    @GreedyGrom Месяц назад +1

    Aaronson was the worst by far, IMO. He turned it over or back passed every single time. He killed us.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      It was very frustrating watching him pass it back so often

  • @ihenriquez1991
    @ihenriquez1991 Месяц назад

    For someone like Malik Tillman, it’s such a shame knowing a player really doesn’t have the heart and spirit for playing for the US national team, you know he accepted the call up just for a career benefit not because his heart is really in it, am I speculating on this? Maybe, but this is very similar to the stories of the Klinsmann era where German born Americans only accepted the call because they weren’t cracking the German squad, and arrogantly and lethargically played for the USMNT.

  • @mattmexor2882
    @mattmexor2882 Месяц назад +2

    The game disappointed me, but cognitively I don't see it as a big negative. There's the emotional sting of looking bad against Mexico. It doesn't really have that much to say, though. The most I can say is that the US adapted poorly to the field conditions. But they were playing in a friendly with inexperienced players under a new coach. It's hard for me to justify reading anything into it. What was the goal of the game and what is the long term goal of the team? Well the long term goal of the team is to perform well at the World Cup. The goal of the game is to introduce the players to the coach and the coach to the players and build a foundation for success at the World Cup. Pochettino indicated that by allowing the players to leave camp. If the goal of the game was to secure a friendly victory against Mexico he never would have let Pulisic go. But he knows taking a risk with Pulisic is not the right thing to do. Of course any time you play you want to see everyone fighting for a win. I don't believe the players lacked fight, however. The US will never play on any field like that at the World Cup. Brandon Vazquez is likely a palpably superior player to Sargent on a field like that. But so what? OK, maybe that challenge won't come up for the World Cup but other challenges surely will and the team need to demonstrate the ability to rise to challenges. That's certainly true and, besides being beaten by Mexico, that is certainly a source for disappointment. But stepping back for a moment and analyzing the situation, we played two 22 year olds at the base of the midfield with combined 20 caps with the senior team who are firstly adjusting to national team soccer and secondarily to a new coach. Expecting them to adapt well to terrible field conditions under those circumstances is not realistic. Hoping, sure, but expecting, no.
    There were again mistakes at the back that this time led to goals. Miles Robinson's kick. I don't know what else to call it other than a kick. It wasn't a pass, it wasn't a clearance. It was just a ball kicked in a seemingly indiscriminate direction and distance, all the while he could have rolled it to Turner instead. Tim Ream took a bad touch after winning the ball, perhaps influenced by the field, but he showed an utter lack of urgency afterwards and instead of rushing to get to the ball he picked his head up and looked around for the best outlet. But those moments that led to Mexico's goals do not define the game on their own. To me what defines it was the lack of players in position to lead the US out of tough conditions in a roughly officiated game against an experienced and motivated Mexico side in front of a hostile crowd. Who are the players we would want to lead us in such a situation? I'd argue Tyler Adams, Weston Mckennie, and Christian Pulisic, none of whom were there. As I mentioned, I don't think Busio or Morris should be expected to do it under the situation they currently are in. Who then, Tillman? Musah? Those are two talented players but both are dealing with issues directly affecting that very ability. Sargent is not playing in the right position to be able to do it. There was only one player to really try to rely on. Brenden Aaronson. He put in complete effort but he came up short on quality in key moments. But just consider the team. Miles Robinson, not very good. Scally, 21 years old 15 caps. Busio 22 years old 14 caps, Morris 22 years old 6 caps, Tillman 22 years old 12 caps, Musah yes he has a lot of caps at 39 but still only 21 years old and part of his issue is he's not mr. reliable. he's very much a player who shows his age not a player who plays beyond his years, despite his number of caps, Tessman 22 years old 3 caps, Lund 22 years old 4 caps, Vazquez 8 caps, Zendejas 4 caps, Wright 10 caps.
    So my point is the US were not set up for success. But the US were not trying their hardest to set themselves up for success. They were trying to test themselves in a soccer match. Several players were asked to do what they were not good at or new at without the support of our most experienced and best players. It's disappointing but hardly devastating. Sometimes you take an ass whooping. It doesn't necessarily mean that all or even any of the players suck or that something is wrong. The context is always important. And hopefully with this experience Busio and Morris and everyone else will take small steps towards being capable of being relied on more next time.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      Great analysis! We do think it’s hard to put too much stock into this, but honestly the main thing we’re upset about is the lack of effort or heart shown by the team in a rivalry game, not the end result. Like you said, the only player there that we could rely on in terms of mentality was Aaronson, and as much as I like the guy, if he’s the only one you’re looking towards to create chances, that’s a recipe for disaster. Hopefully the players and coaching staff take this as a learning experience and make the necessary adjustments for the next camp, because I highly doubt the pitch conditions in Kingston will be that much better than they were in this game.

  • @Mike-er2fn
    @Mike-er2fn Месяц назад +1

    I’m not that upset. This was a punch you in the mouth kind of game against Mexico in Mexico. We roll out aaronson who gets blown over by a stiff breeze, Busio who’s never taken the ball away from anyone, and Morris who is actually over a 100Lbs but is really slow. One look at the lineup and you knew we were going to lose the midfield. So then we are relying on Musah to the outside to make something happen in the final third….. so the only way we score with that lineup is Busio, Tillman and Jedi combine on the Left to get the ball to Sargent or Mexico’s defense falls asleep. I’m not saying Maloney is the best most technical player ever but he would have helped, we needed a tough guy, it’s also why for tough matches I start Tyler over Johnny. Didn’t understand why zendejas and Vasquez didn’t start, you were going to get their best. USMNT need more away matches.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      Definitely agree that we need more away matches, we need to build the mentality in that kind of situation. The lack of experience playing in Mexico was a huge factor.

  • @Juanfernandezz-
    @Juanfernandezz- Месяц назад +2

    You’re in denial to defend Aaronson 😂 he’s shit, I never want to see him or Morris play for us again.

  • @VStrizzy
    @VStrizzy Месяц назад +2

    Dos a cero

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад

      Congrats on the win, you were the better team by far

    • @VStrizzy
      @VStrizzy Месяц назад +1

      I wish I was a Mexico fan, maybe I’ll switch now. My family is Mexican lol 😂

    • @EtotheLtotheP
      @EtotheLtotheP Месяц назад

      Jajajajaja!

  • @clevelangston5188
    @clevelangston5188 Месяц назад +5

    Maybe the Gio haters will stfu for a bit. Who will you bench him for now 😂😂😂?

    • @Lebum-wl9lt
      @Lebum-wl9lt Месяц назад +2

      Im tired of seeing that mf aaronson 🤡get him out the team for life he’s fkn useless

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +3

      Gio was one of the biggest winners from this camp and he wasn’t even playing. Says a lot.

    • @clevelangston5188
      @clevelangston5188 Месяц назад +1

      @@AMERICANULTRASTALK yep. Though it was already pretty clear to me before the window tbh. Anyway. Love the channel. Keep it going guys.

  • @colinreese
    @colinreese Месяц назад

    Pochettino obviously doesn't agree with you guys. Morris is an 8 and a very skilled player. Yuri, did you miss Morris doing the toe poke drible de vaca?

  • @colinreese
    @colinreese Месяц назад

    Where's the props for the Vazquez control out of the air?

  • @raymondmoreno336
    @raymondmoreno336 Месяц назад +1

    I watched certain players bc you guys said they were ass like Robinson an arrenson an yea they are ass

  • @Trulyc2
    @Trulyc2 Месяц назад +1

    I didn't really watch the game so I can't say much on a pre season performance

  • @NITESHADOWshouske
    @NITESHADOWshouske Месяц назад +1

    Guys, you’re all overreacting. 😂
    It’s his first camp. We should have some of our core players available for the Jamaica games.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +1

      We better, because if this group of players has to start again we’re going to lose.

  • @TheoMeiser-Mintz-l9f
    @TheoMeiser-Mintz-l9f Месяц назад +3

    1.5? Created our “only chance” oh my, so much for an unbiased RUclipsr/Pundit. We didn’t watch the same game.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +3

      Aaronson and Zendejas were the only players who played a pass that led to a chance. That is objectively true. Mad at a 1.5 rating, I swear most of the fanbase thinks he’s worse than Benedict Arnold. Insane. I feel the need to defend him because everyone always scapegoats him for anything bad and ignores horrible performances from players like Tillman and Musah.

    • @TheoMeiser-Mintz-l9f
      @TheoMeiser-Mintz-l9f Месяц назад

      Musah and Tillman are shit and shouldn’t be back too happy now? Everyone criticizes him because he is shit and even at his best he won’t help the team I know it sucks when your favorite player sucks.

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +3

      Not sure what you want from me. I gave him a horrible rating, I said he shouldn’t be called back for a while. Seems more than reasonable, am I missing something?

    • @GreedyGrom
      @GreedyGrom Месяц назад

      @@AMERICANULTRASTALKHe was horrible. Gave the ball away constantly with horrible touches and passes. Maybe he created a chance, but he gave away 20 chances.

  • @andrewnguyen473
    @andrewnguyen473 Месяц назад

    Wright is a total waste of time. Same as Sargent, and a bunch more of players

    • @AMERICANULTRASTALK
      @AMERICANULTRASTALK  Месяц назад +2

      I’m not sure I’d say that. He bailed us out against Jamaica last spring and got a nice assist against Panama just last game. He’s actually proven to be useful at times, Sargent hasn’t. Plus, he has more World Cup knockout goals than Ronaldo 😂

  • @cmavz3
    @cmavz3 Месяц назад

    What are you talking about?? Tessman? Malooney?? Those two are horrible...Tessman specifically is like old bradley 2.0. Only back passes and no dribling skills