I've seen multiple doctors,urologists,etc. Suffered for past 10 years with constant burning pain and frequent urination. Not a single doctor EVER mentioned oxalates. Thank you so much for this info!
Have you tested for autoimmune diseases? I had bladder issues and was diagnosed with celiac. Gluten was causing my bladder issues. I do recommend eating kale instead of spinach though if you already have a sensitive bladder- greens are very healing.
See Sally Norton’s work on oxalates. And, especially, the phenomenon of “oxalate dumping”. Removing them from the diet is a good idea, but, in some cases, it might need to be done gradually, to prevent dumping of accumulated oxalates.
Yes, I wish I had known this sooner. Went full on carnivore 11 months ago and I’m now struggling with awful bladder pain. Two courses of antibiotics and no better, then I learned of Oxalate Dumping from EO Nutrition and Sally Norton. I just ordered a bunch of supplements and added a bit of Oxalate foods back in to try and slow the dumping. 😢 I Pray it doesn’t take much longer to stop it, it’s so painful.
Explains why I developed a chronic UTI when I went vegan. It disappeared almost overnight when I went carnivore and hasn't returned since. Sadly, I'm now dealing with the after affects of the antibiotics.
@@cdbndbnd102 Let's just say I'm quite ill right now, I was diagnosed with M.E quite recently. At the time of writing that comment I was certain it was the antibiotics, but now I realise it could have been a number of factors. All I know is that whenever I eat high oxalate foods, chocolate being one of my weaknesses, UTI comes right back. When I stop eating such foods, it goes away. So Idk..
@@saveyourselves5923 how are you now? I am having that symptoms. For me, even when I have "low oxalate" vegetables like cabbage and bokchoy, my UTI comes back. What is fine for me is only "very low/little to none oxalate" fruits and vegetables like iceberg lettuce, papaya, melon, watermelon. I used to be able to eat anything... I hope I will develop tolerance of it overtime. I guess you should increase it little by little? Have you try it?
@@april234-f9v I am living with M.E/cfs and a lot of damage to my gut. My big mistake was changing my diet too fast and disrupted my microbiome. I believe oxalate in the tissues is a sign of gut damage, if it didn't happen before. Many have damaged gut without realising (it manifest as depression and mental health issues). I get most relief when I cut out all plants completely and eat only animal products and consuming probiotic foods throughout the day. I know that's not realistic for most. Whenever I have small amount of chocolate, tea or coffee I will get bladder issues.
I have suffered for past few years with frequent urination and don't know the reason, now I am understanding the causes, Thank you for your information!
I have been in remission from IC for the past ten years. I was in horrific pain. Acidic free diet drastically helped. I can drink coffee now, but I dont eat sugars, grains, or processed foods.
I have been suffering from a UTI caused by E.Coli (urine culture done) since the past 6 weeks. In September I started a plant based diet and ate lots of beetroots and spinach. I have been on three courses of antibiotics so far but the discomfort is still there. I am going to stop eating these high oxalate foods, thank you for this video!! I have subscribed, please continue with your good work.
Will this help with oxalate dumping as well? I’m almost a year into carnivore. I have an appointment with a urologist after getting a CTscan. I have bladder thicking & cystitis from what they can see. Came up negative for infection twice. The docs all thought it was diverticulitis. I have been on antibiotics for a month : (
@@deannamontgomery2769Hello, really wondering what you found out? I’m almost a year into carnivore as well and just finished second round of antibiotics for UTI and still I’m not better. Supposed to get a call from Dr tomorrow. Have you figured anything out to help you??
My 8-year battle with debilitating interstitial cystitis has finally been relieved by going carnivore from what turns out was a very high oxalate WFPB vegan diet that I was told was “healthy”. Now I’ve quit all oxalates, I had a horrible couple of days of dumping which was like peeing shards of glass, thankfully that has subsided with a glass of water with half a lemon squeezed into it with a 1/4 tsp each of magnesium crystals, cream of tartar (potassium) and pink salt, but now 6 weeks into carnivore I’m getting scabby sores on my scalp with yellow crystals in them! Crazy!
Same… I was peeing pure blood. I had to have surgery on my bladder bc I was hemorrhaging. I did lidocaine bladder injections for pain at home. I went through hell! Then I left my urologist to get real help. I went to a natural doc. I haven’t been to that doc or any doc for IC for over 10 yrs.
Additionally, I’m 57 now however when I was a child I had lots of bladder problems. Little did I know my mother cooked high oxalate foods and tons of sweets. All very delicious but it made me physically sick. On a couple occasions my mother took me to the hospital to get Benadryl shots. I am very sensitive to sugar. My childhood sucked bcz of being sick from food a lot & on top of constantly being sick I was also being molested. I’m happy to hear that you are able to help your daughter! My mother was wonderful & I know that if she knew what was going on she would of done anything to help me.
Additionally, I’m 57 now however when I was a child I had lots of bladder problems. Little did I know my mother cooked high oxalate foods and tons of sweets. All very delicious but it made me physically sick. On a couple occasions my mother took me to the hospital to get Benadryl shots. I am very sensitive to sugar. My childhood sucked bcz of being sick from food a lot & on top of constantly being sick I was also being molested. I’m happy to hear that you are able to help your daughter! My mother was wonderful & I know that if she knew what was going on she would of done anything to help me.
Thank you for this information. I had thought salt was making my IC so much worse. Well I came across your video and this really hit home for me. Thank you so much for this information. I had been very desperate to find something to help the pain. I knew it seemed as though the salt was doing a lot of it. I didn't know what oxolate was so I looked it up. Again thank you so much.
been taking magnesium and calcium found in the "bone builder" supplement. I coudn't walk, run, swim, dance, have sex ect. Three weeks later im in almost zero pain. You gave me my life back.
I would be interested to know more about it - so you think the magnesium & calcium supplement was bad for you? what were your exact symptoms? thank you!!
I am still so interested in what symptoms you've had from taking those supplements, I believe I might have the same problem - did you just stop taking the supplements or have you also cut on calcium and magnesium foods?
This video, although hypothetical in nature, is still one of your best. By now, there are a growing number of trained experts in the Medical Health/Nutrition space that bring awareness to the main issues surrounding oxalate- explaining plant-seed toxicity and what are the 'toxic superfoods' extremely high in oxalate [to quote our beloved Sally K. Norton], but those of us that have suffered greatly due to oxalate dumping and its still unknown, myriad pathologies, we welcome any theories that may help to explain what may be going on specifically in an organ or specific tissue. Based upon growing anecdotal evidence, we know about the boils, the rashes, and what to expect in our urine or stools, but what you've provided here are possibilities about specific issues and why certain supplements might curtail them- such as the supplementation of mineral citrates to improve bladder function. Possible answers to common issues are far better than suffering in complete mystery. Thank you, Elliot.
@@marshareed1438 still have flares, i was also trying to heal listening to rife frequencies but it made it worse. So last week i stopped listening, paying attention to diet, taking vit d and msm. Will see how i feel in next 2 weeks. Hope you are going good.
Thank you so much. I knew about oxalates, but wasn't aware of the use of k/mg citrate. I just ordered some capsules. I've been an ovo-lacto vegetarian for about 25 years, but have moved further away from dairy and eggs over the last several years. I got my first known UTI over two weeks ago and the onset was quick and severe. I was prescribed a 5-day supply of antibiotics which I had extended to 10 days. On day 13, after having been off for just 3 days, the UTI exploded again. I just started severely cutting back on oxalate intake and hope with the supplements, this can be rid of. I have no risk factors that would explain this resistance (recent CT scan showed nothing...thinking crystals alone may not be visible?) Thanks again.
TLDR Reducing oxalate intake in the diet could potentially lead to improvements in urinary tract infections, bladder pain, frequent urination, and interstitial cystitis. Oxalate may contribute to these issues by causing irritation, inflammation, and providing a habitat for bacteria. - **Oxalate's Role in Health Issues:** - Oxalate might lead to bladder pain and interstitial cystitis by causing local irritation and inflammation. - Oxalate crystals can adhere to tissue, binding with epithelial cells, causing stress and potentially depleting local immunity. - Certain bacteria, like E. coli, can aggregate around calcium oxalate crystals, possibly connecting oxalate to chronic urinary tract infections unresponsive to antibiotics. - **Effects of Oxalate on the Body:** - Oxalate's negative effects include cellular problems and tissue stress upon contact. - Anecdotal evidence suggests benefits of low oxalate diets for urinary issues, supported by testimonials in online communities. - **Oxalate in Urinary Tract:** - Oxalate is absorbed into the bloodstream, goes to the kidneys, and should ideally pass out through urine. - Oxalate crystals can deposit in kidneys or bladder, contributing to bladder calculi formation. - Calcium oxalate crystals can adhere to epithelial cells in the bladder, causing inflammation and oxidative stress, which might contribute to interstitial cystitis symptoms. - **Oxalate and Chronic UTIs:** - Examining urinary tract tissue health is crucial in addressing chronic urinary tract infections. - Oxalate might deplete resources, compromising local immunity and fostering an environment for bacteria. - E. coli has been observed to selectively aggregate around calcium oxalate crystals, potentially sustaining infection. - **Urinary Alkalizes and Oxalate:** - Urinary alkalizes like magnesium and potassium citrate can help alleviate urinary tract infection symptoms. - Alkalization might reduce inflammation by dissolving adhered oxalate crystals and removing bacterial habitats. - Reduction of oxalate in the diet and use of urinary alkalizes might contribute to improvements in chronic UTIs and interstitial cystitis. - **Calcium Oxalate and Interstitial Cystitis:** - Calcium oxalate may adhere to the bladder, causing irritation and inflammation, potentially worsening interstitial cystitis symptoms. - Many individuals experience relief in interstitial cystitis symptoms by reducing oxalate intake in their diets. - **Urinary Alkalizes and Oxalate Crystals:** - Urinary alkalizes' benefits might stem from reducing inflammation and dissolving calcium oxalate crystals. - By dissolving crystals, urinary alkalizes might eliminate bacterial habitats, aiding in treating chronic UTIs. - **Recommendation:** - For cases of chronic UTIs unresponsive to antibiotics, considering the role of oxalate might be beneficial.
- **Conclusion:** - Reducing dietary oxalate intake and using urinary alkalizes can potentially alleviate symptoms related to urinary tract infections, interstitial cystitis, and bladder pain.
D-mannose binds to ecoli and flushes it out of the body. And according to this video oxalates house and enable ecoli to thrive. So seems thay the cause of chronic utis and bladder issues is mainly ecoli.. and both dmannose and lowering oxalates can help this.
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This was so encouraging. I inadvertently ate a lot of high oxalate foods on tbe Wahls diet. Spinach sweet potato almonds and beets. 3 weeks later, 4 nights of bladder horror. (Peeing every 15 min) Which led me to your video and gave me some hope and I joined the group you mentioned Anecdotally do people get better within days weeks or months?
My A1c was also getting high nearly diabetes I have now gone low carb and passed a 6.3 kidney stone I was eating to many oxalated foods causing so much trouble with the bladder I since have changed my diet doing much better you could check your blood sugar might help Take care!!🥰
It’s more about eating too much carbs and having pre diabetes or diabetes 2. If you go keto, carnivore or 0 carb - it will solve your problem of frequent urination.
Could you please explain the data showing the beneficial effects of so many oxalate containing foods (turmeric, green tea, etc) and how that plays against their harmful effects? Is there a way to get the beneficial effects while protecting from their detriment? Are there certain SNPs that are more predisposed to benefit/harm?
An interesting question. I do not have the answer, but I have heard that the benefits of turmeric can be obtained via infusions or tinctures, while avoiding most of the oxalate content, but I have no references to hand for this. Regarding the benefits of green tea and turmeric, the anti-inflamatory and anti--oxidant properties, and possibly cancer prevention, etc- these benefits may be available simply by avoiding sugar, including high-sugar fruits, and starches- which are made of sugar molecules linked together. Sugars and starches tend to increase inflammation, independent of oxalate content. Research by Phinney and Volek has shown that when the body 'burns fat' instead of sugar for energy, their is significantly less oxidative stress, reducing the need for anti-oxidants. Meats, both muscle and organ meats, contain more anti-oxidants than we have been taught, including Vit C (overcooking should be avoided). Unprocessed milk contains ALL the known vitamins, plus probiotics, immune factors, beneficial enzymes, and all the minerals we need- in the forms readily absorbed and used by the human body. Meat, Milk and milk products from animals on an all-forage diet (100% grassfed) contain significant amounts- of Omega 3 fatty acids, and in the correct forms to meet human dietary needs. According to Dr. Paul Mason, these sources can replace fish, but plant sources of Omega 3s are in the wrong form. Processing milk damages or destroys much of the nutrient content in milk, and changes the protein, which can cause issues for some people. Others are sensitive to the A! casein mutation found in the milk of some cows (but not sheep, goats, or the 5 or 6 other species regularly used for milk, or in human milk). For those who are interested in doing this, a well-formulated ketogenic diet (Dr. Stephen Phinney, MD PhD and Jeff Volek, PhD) reduces the need for 'rescue' foods, and provides more beneficial nutrients than we have been led to believe. Keep in mind that most of the fruits we commonly find in supermarkets have significantly higher levels of sugar than their wild counterparts. Bananas contain approximately 7 teaspoons of sugar, per banana. Grapes and apples are among other fruits which are much higher in sugar than wild fruit. And our ancestors did not have access to fruits from around the world available 365 days a year. If you find out more about how to get the benefits of things like turmeric and green tea while avoiding the oxalates, hopefully you will share the info!
I prefer to go by living proof. I had IC as a child. When I got older my bladder started to hemorrhage. My urologist put me on a medication that ruined my hair! Still in pain everyday so I had to do my own lidocaine bladder injections. Still in pain so I wanted to die. Oh I had surgery too. Finally I got smart & I left my doctor and I went to a natural doctor. They did a blood test to see what foods my body sees toxic. I got better and I haven’t been back to any doc for my bladder in over 10 yrs. I recently went on a carnivore diet and I feel better than ever! I just learned about oxalates in food and little did I know but the foods that my body saw as toxic were very high in oxalates
Absolutely. I see it myself routinely. Almost 100% of patients complaining of incontinence have it. It looks like red leaking irritated little blood vessels that have proliferated in the bladder wall, and they have trabeculations, little ridges of scar tissue from the incoordination of smooth muscle contractions that make the bladder and urethra fight against each other to urinate.
i am hoping this video is an answered prayer.. i cant handle anymore kidney pain.. the doctors just feed me anti biotics, ive been on them now for 3 months straight, drinking 1-2 litres cranberry juice a day. im losing the plot.
I been taking a purslane extract for a month for a scalp condition . Ive got benefits from it as well as with urinary incontinence but unfortunately have had side effects. One of them being that right off the bat my prostate and tip of my urethra felt like on fire and I was only taking 1/8 teaspoon . I have noticed the last 4 to 5 days that i have lowered the dosage in half that Ive got some relief . Oxalates are high in that extract must be, any feedback would be appreciated.
So is taking some calcium citrate with something high in oxalates a good or bad idea? I'm pretty much carnivore but the one thing I'm having a hard time giving up (besides coffee) is my Theo 70% salted dark chocolate. I eat three or four squares with my coffee every day. :( I'm looking for a way to counter the oxalates. I was gonna just buy some mag citrate powder but apparently all the manufacturers including Now have changed their formula from 1:1 to 3:2 so it's not a true mag citrate and it doesn't desolve in water very well and tastes like crap.
I had trouble giving up dark chocolate on carnivore too, I’ve found a square of chilled salted butter on a cocktail stick helps, I nibble small bits off it and it has a similar texture and creaminess which seems to help. My favourite is President salted butter, the French butter is so creamy!
Can the drug Rituximab cause Oxalates in your urine? It kills your B cells so you basically are urinating out your immune system. I have chronic utis and IC since taking it for Vasculitis in 2013. It is so painful. A lot of fevers with it as well. I am very low in IGA. So immune compromised
Will calcium citrate make oxalate dumping symptoms worse or better. Both magnesium and potassium citrate make me dump oxalates so bad I feel like I might die potassium is the worst, k2 also gives me symptoms. I’m carnivore already but only since Christmas. Should I just hold off stuff and let my body do its thing?
Dimethyl sulfoxide is an organosulfur compound instilled into the bladder for ic. I was told it was $800 a dose and insurance won't pay for it. Some say it makes you smell offensive (like a strong garlic like odor).
@@IvorMektin1701 My doctor's office will only use pharmacy drugs. DMSO must be a certain % and sterile for bladder insertion. Anyway, l decided against using it. Did it work for you?
@@vivavita3769 I use it for my joints and muscle cramps when I work out too much. I cut the Amazon stuff 50/50 with distilled water, otherwise it itches.
There can be other causes of prostatitis and pelvic pain, of course, but oxalates can apparently lodge in most any tissue in the body, causing damage and pain. Scroll down for info on prostatities: sallyknorton.com/symptoms/
Wow, I get serious bladder irritation everytime I eat too many beets. A few here and there not a problem but a little too many and bam. Can oxalates cause inflammation in other parts of the body? I have pain in joints and shoulders I wonder now if it's mediated by my oxalate consumption.
Hi Elliott, just wondering if you have a good source about the oxalate content of specific foods? I have a list that I think was made through harvard, and it says that kale, and coffee are pretty low oxalate content, but i noticed in your video with Bart Kay that you had mentioned kale was high oxalate content. So I'm wondering if mayne you have better research to reference than I do. I'm trying my best to do a low oxalate diet, but im not totally sure if my source is accurate. Thanks!
@ Since When I've had the same problem. I don't want to go out and buy a bunch of Kale and then find out it's a problem. I don't have the budget for that. Same with Tuna. Different ranking on different lists. And most of the lists I've seen have different sample sizes on each food so comparison is hard.
I have severe bladder pain I have pain when pee but am eating fruit veg garlic and ginger I tonight am having a mild curry is that ok sometimes help severe back pain in bladder I can't walk property but my ex use to put chemicals in me sexual abuse which I never new until the end and I pee out blood I left the guys years ago but still suffering am having cranberry Juice help
The weird thing is that I think oxalates dont leave the body through urine in crystal shapes. If so what to do about it, seems that the only person in the world who knows about this is Susan Owens, that smell like business. If u have bladder calculate, u would be not just irritated, but bleeding, and not being able to pee correctly, so to have just irritation or inflammation sounds not very convincing.
Elliot what about hemorrhoids? Especially by insoluble oxalates scraping up your poop hole. Just an idea because I knew a vegan who struggled with hemorrhoids!
How do you explain some people who are vegans or vegetarians and never get problems? And others that we barely eat high oxalates are more susceptible to them? Do they have better and good bacteria in their gut health? 🦠
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I've seen multiple doctors,urologists,etc. Suffered for past 10 years with constant burning pain and frequent urination. Not a single doctor EVER mentioned oxalates. Thank you so much for this info!
Irene Mowers same here
Has it worked
10 years holy crap, i just recently and i have problems.
My thoughts exactly!!
Have you tested for autoimmune diseases? I had bladder issues and was diagnosed with celiac. Gluten was causing my bladder issues. I do recommend eating kale instead of spinach though if you already have a sensitive bladder- greens are very healing.
I learned more from this video than all of my doctors combined.
Thank you.
See Sally Norton’s work on oxalates. And, especially, the phenomenon of “oxalate dumping”. Removing them from the diet is a good idea, but, in some cases, it might need to be done gradually, to prevent dumping of accumulated oxalates.
Yes, I wish I had known this sooner. Went full on carnivore 11 months ago and I’m now struggling with awful bladder pain. Two courses of antibiotics and no better, then I learned of Oxalate Dumping from EO Nutrition and Sally Norton. I just ordered a bunch of supplements and added a bit of Oxalate foods back in to try and slow the dumping. 😢 I Pray it doesn’t take much longer to stop it, it’s so painful.
Explains why I developed a chronic UTI when I went vegan. It disappeared almost overnight when I went carnivore and hasn't returned since. Sadly, I'm now dealing with the after affects of the antibiotics.
What effects bro
@@cdbndbnd102 Let's just say I'm quite ill right now, I was diagnosed with M.E quite recently. At the time of writing that comment I was certain it was the antibiotics, but now I realise it could have been a number of factors. All I know is that whenever I eat high oxalate foods, chocolate being one of my weaknesses, UTI comes right back. When I stop eating such foods, it goes away. So Idk..
@@saveyourselves5923 how are you now?
I am having that symptoms. For me, even when I have "low oxalate" vegetables like cabbage and bokchoy, my UTI comes back. What is fine for me is only "very low/little to none oxalate" fruits and vegetables like iceberg lettuce, papaya, melon, watermelon.
I used to be able to eat anything... I hope I will develop tolerance of it overtime.
I guess you should increase it little by little? Have you try it?
@@april234-f9v I am living with M.E/cfs and a lot of damage to my gut. My big mistake was changing my diet too fast and disrupted my microbiome. I believe oxalate in the tissues is a sign of gut damage, if it didn't happen before. Many have damaged gut without realising (it manifest as depression and mental health issues). I get most relief when I cut out all plants completely and eat only animal products and consuming probiotic foods throughout the day. I know that's not realistic for most. Whenever I have small amount of chocolate, tea or coffee I will get bladder issues.
And you are clogging your heart arteries with lard and tallow. And helping pollute the waterways near the livestock farm/factory. 😢
I have suffered for past few years with frequent urination and don't know the reason, now I am understanding the causes, Thank you for your information!
I am in severe pain as we speak with Interstitial Cystitus and omg this is a life saver
I have been in remission from IC for the past ten years. I was in horrific pain. Acidic free diet drastically helped. I can drink coffee now, but I dont eat sugars, grains, or processed foods.
Did this advice help?
Is the IC still in remission with a low or no-oxalate protocol?
@@easypeasy1216 what did you do exactly?
@@easypeasy1216 what did you eat while healing please?
I have been suffering from a UTI caused by E.Coli (urine culture done) since the past 6 weeks. In September I started a plant based diet and ate lots of beetroots and spinach. I have been on three courses of antibiotics so far but the discomfort is still there. I am going to stop eating these high oxalate foods, thank you for this video!! I have subscribed, please continue with your good work.
Replacing kale with spinach is the perfect solution. Greens are very nutrient dense, you just need to eat the right ones
Try carnivore diet
@@xandricoetzee6698 it's the other way around. Spinach is extremely high in oxalates!
Also remember to avoid orange juice, cranberry juice, peanuts, nuts, seeds and some spices.
That's right. Spinach is very high in oxalates.
I take magnesium citrate every night for my constipation. Havent had an UTI since! :)
Thats handy to know, i must try it.
calcium citrate and magnesium citrate bind with oxalates and carry them out of the body.
Will this help with oxalate dumping as well? I’m almost a year into carnivore. I have an appointment with a urologist after getting a CTscan. I have bladder thicking & cystitis from what they can see. Came up negative for infection twice. The docs all thought it was diverticulitis. I have been on antibiotics for a month : (
@@deannamontgomery2769Hello, really wondering what you found out? I’m almost a year into carnivore as well and just finished second round of antibiotics for UTI and still I’m not better. Supposed to get a call from Dr tomorrow. Have you figured anything out to help you??
My 8-year battle with debilitating interstitial cystitis has finally been relieved by going carnivore from what turns out was a very high oxalate WFPB vegan diet that I was told was “healthy”. Now I’ve quit all oxalates, I had a horrible couple of days of dumping which was like peeing shards of glass, thankfully that has subsided with a glass of water with half a lemon squeezed into it with a 1/4 tsp each of magnesium crystals, cream of tartar (potassium) and pink salt, but now 6 weeks into carnivore I’m getting scabby sores on my scalp with yellow crystals in them! Crazy!
Same… I was peeing pure blood. I had to have surgery on my bladder bc I was hemorrhaging. I did lidocaine bladder injections for pain at home. I went through hell! Then I left my urologist to get real help. I went to a natural doc. I haven’t been to that doc or any doc for IC for over 10 yrs.
Additionally, I’m 57 now however when I was a child I had lots of bladder problems. Little did I know my mother cooked high oxalate foods and tons of sweets. All very delicious but it made me physically sick. On a couple occasions my mother took me to the hospital to get Benadryl shots. I am very sensitive to sugar. My childhood sucked bcz of being sick from food a lot & on top of constantly being sick I was also being molested.
I’m happy to hear that you are able to help your daughter! My mother was wonderful & I know that if she knew what was going on she would of done anything to help me.
Additionally, I’m 57 now however when I was a child I had lots of bladder problems. Little did I know my mother cooked high oxalate foods and tons of sweets. All very delicious but it made me physically sick. On a couple occasions my mother took me to the hospital to get Benadryl shots. I am very sensitive to sugar. My childhood sucked bcz of being sick from food a lot & on top of constantly being sick I was also being molested.
I’m happy to hear that you are able to help your daughter! My mother was wonderful & I know that if she knew what was going on she would of done anything to help me.
You don't need to go carnivore 100% too much of anything is bad for you.
Thank you for this information. I had thought salt was making my IC so much worse. Well I came across your video and this really hit home for me. Thank you so much for this information. I had been very desperate to find something to help the pain. I knew it seemed as though the salt was doing a lot of it. I didn't know what oxolate was so I looked it up. Again thank you so much.
been taking magnesium and calcium found in the "bone builder" supplement. I coudn't walk, run, swim, dance, have sex ect. Three weeks later im in almost zero pain. You gave me my life back.
I would be interested to know more about it - so you think the magnesium & calcium supplement was bad for you? what were your exact symptoms? thank you!!
I am still so interested in what symptoms you've had from taking those supplements, I believe I might have the same problem - did you just stop taking the supplements or have you also cut on calcium and magnesium foods?
This video, although hypothetical in nature, is still one of your best. By now, there are a growing number of trained experts in the Medical Health/Nutrition space that bring awareness to the main issues surrounding oxalate- explaining plant-seed toxicity and what are the 'toxic superfoods' extremely high in oxalate [to quote our beloved Sally K. Norton], but those of us that have suffered greatly due to oxalate dumping and its still unknown, myriad pathologies, we welcome any theories that may help to explain what may be going on specifically in an organ or specific tissue. Based upon growing anecdotal evidence, we know about the boils, the rashes, and what to expect in our urine or stools, but what you've provided here are possibilities about specific issues and why certain supplements might curtail them- such as the supplementation of mineral citrates to improve bladder function. Possible answers to common issues are far better than suffering in complete mystery. Thank you, Elliot.
Saw you on Bart Kay's channel. All I can say is where have you been all my life?! Thank you for providing this much needed content! 😙
I have just listened to this. Thank you. I still don’t understand what OXALATE is however?
Hermanus
One of my lifelong problems. Great info. Many thanks to you. Please keep up the good work I will follow your advise.
WOW! Info ive never known before. I had bladder stretch surgery but still suffering IC and pain. Will surely look at oxalate food lists.
I also had that same surgery over 10 yrs ago. Are you doing better now?
@@marshareed1438 still have flares, i was also trying to heal listening to rife frequencies but it made it worse. So last week i stopped listening, paying attention to diet, taking vit d and msm. Will see how i feel in next 2 weeks. Hope you are going good.
God i really needed to see this. I'm suffering so much that i was suspecting i had bladder cancer with metastases in the bones and joints.
Thanks so much for this information! Words can never say how happy I'll be !
Thank you for this. I am so worried about my pain and frequent urination. I love eating almonds and peanuts which are high in oxalates right?
Very
Elliot you absolute legend. go on barts channel soon again!!
There is something to this .. one of my test revealed my oxalates where at the highest level and I have interstitial cystitis
What is the best way to get them out? Where can you get tested?
Thank you so much. I knew about oxalates, but wasn't aware of the use of k/mg citrate. I just ordered some capsules. I've been an ovo-lacto vegetarian for about 25 years, but have moved further away from dairy and eggs over the last several years. I got my first known UTI over two weeks ago and the onset was quick and severe. I was prescribed a 5-day supply of antibiotics which I had extended to 10 days. On day 13, after having been off for just 3 days, the UTI exploded again. I just started severely cutting back on oxalate intake and hope with the supplements, this can be rid of. I have no risk factors that would explain this resistance (recent CT scan showed nothing...thinking crystals alone may not be visible?) Thanks again.
I definitely experience this all my life thankfully I’m aware of it now but my God it’s hell trying to get rid of ox out of my body
TLDR
Reducing oxalate intake in the diet could potentially lead to improvements in urinary tract infections, bladder pain, frequent urination, and interstitial cystitis. Oxalate may contribute to these issues by causing irritation, inflammation, and providing a habitat for bacteria.
- **Oxalate's Role in Health Issues:**
- Oxalate might lead to bladder pain and interstitial cystitis by causing local irritation and inflammation.
- Oxalate crystals can adhere to tissue, binding with epithelial cells, causing stress and potentially depleting local immunity.
- Certain bacteria, like E. coli, can aggregate around calcium oxalate crystals, possibly connecting oxalate to chronic urinary tract infections unresponsive to antibiotics.
- **Effects of Oxalate on the Body:**
- Oxalate's negative effects include cellular problems and tissue stress upon contact.
- Anecdotal evidence suggests benefits of low oxalate diets for urinary issues, supported by testimonials in online communities.
- **Oxalate in Urinary Tract:**
- Oxalate is absorbed into the bloodstream, goes to the kidneys, and should ideally pass out through urine.
- Oxalate crystals can deposit in kidneys or bladder, contributing to bladder calculi formation.
- Calcium oxalate crystals can adhere to epithelial cells in the bladder, causing inflammation and oxidative stress, which might contribute to interstitial cystitis symptoms.
- **Oxalate and Chronic UTIs:**
- Examining urinary tract tissue health is crucial in addressing chronic urinary tract infections.
- Oxalate might deplete resources, compromising local immunity and fostering an environment for bacteria.
- E. coli has been observed to selectively aggregate around calcium oxalate crystals, potentially sustaining infection.
- **Urinary Alkalizes and Oxalate:**
- Urinary alkalizes like magnesium and potassium citrate can help alleviate urinary tract infection symptoms.
- Alkalization might reduce inflammation by dissolving adhered oxalate crystals and removing bacterial habitats.
- Reduction of oxalate in the diet and use of urinary alkalizes might contribute to improvements in chronic UTIs and interstitial cystitis.
- **Calcium Oxalate and Interstitial Cystitis:**
- Calcium oxalate may adhere to the bladder, causing irritation and inflammation, potentially worsening interstitial cystitis symptoms.
- Many individuals experience relief in interstitial cystitis symptoms by reducing oxalate intake in their diets.
- **Urinary Alkalizes and Oxalate Crystals:**
- Urinary alkalizes' benefits might stem from reducing inflammation and dissolving calcium oxalate crystals.
- By dissolving crystals, urinary alkalizes might eliminate bacterial habitats, aiding in treating chronic UTIs.
- **Recommendation:**
- For cases of chronic UTIs unresponsive to antibiotics, considering the role of oxalate might be beneficial.
- **Conclusion:**
- Reducing dietary oxalate intake and using urinary alkalizes can potentially alleviate symptoms related to urinary tract infections, interstitial cystitis, and bladder pain.
Wow Bravo 👏 this is amazing!
Can you explain why *D-Mannose* helps with the adherence problem also? Is there a relationship?
D-mannose binds to ecoli and flushes it out of the body. And according to this video oxalates house and enable ecoli to thrive. So seems thay the cause of chronic utis and bladder issues is mainly ecoli.. and both dmannose and lowering oxalates can help this.
D-mannose is the only thing that helps my bladder pain!
What is better to take then? Magnesium citrate or potassium citrate ?
Take both
Can sodium bicarbonate help
shared with 2 ladies who have these symptoms
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Excellent video. Thank you for this!
You are a genius!
This was so encouraging. I inadvertently ate a lot of high oxalate foods on tbe Wahls diet. Spinach sweet potato almonds and beets. 3 weeks later, 4 nights of bladder horror. (Peeing every 15 min) Which led me to your video and gave me some hope and I joined the group you mentioned
Anecdotally do people get better within days weeks or months?
It depends on the person.
My A1c was also getting high nearly diabetes I have now gone low carb and passed a 6.3 kidney stone I was eating to many oxalated foods causing so much trouble with the bladder I since have changed my diet doing much better you could check your blood sugar might help Take care!!🥰
awesome! Your videos are amazing! Thank you!
Do you think oxalates can cause urethral burning and scarring?
They certainly can! I dealt with that for four months!
@@aslater5what did u use am dealing with it now
Thanks man.
Excellent information.
Thank you for this. Could this be the reason for my over active bladder?
Yes, it could be that oxalates or oxalate crystals are irritating your bladder and causing the need to urinate frequently.
It’s more about eating too much carbs and having pre diabetes or diabetes 2. If you go keto, carnivore or 0 carb - it will solve your problem of frequent urination.
@@animalspirit77 Not for me. Keto made it worse.
@@animalspirit77 how many weeks the effects can be seen while having carnivore diet?
Could you please explain the data showing the beneficial effects of so many oxalate containing foods (turmeric, green tea, etc) and how that plays against their harmful effects? Is there a way to get the beneficial effects while protecting from their detriment? Are there certain SNPs that are more predisposed to benefit/harm?
An interesting question. I do not have the answer, but I have heard that the benefits of turmeric can be obtained via infusions or tinctures, while avoiding most of the oxalate content, but I have no references to hand for this.
Regarding the benefits of green tea and turmeric, the anti-inflamatory and anti--oxidant properties, and possibly cancer prevention, etc- these benefits may be available simply by avoiding sugar, including high-sugar fruits, and starches- which are made of sugar molecules linked together.
Sugars and starches tend to increase inflammation, independent of oxalate content. Research by Phinney and Volek has shown that when the body 'burns fat' instead of sugar for energy, their is significantly less oxidative stress, reducing the need for anti-oxidants.
Meats, both muscle and organ meats, contain more anti-oxidants than we have been taught, including Vit C (overcooking should be avoided).
Unprocessed milk contains ALL the known vitamins, plus probiotics, immune factors, beneficial enzymes, and all the minerals we need- in the forms readily absorbed and used by the human body. Meat, Milk and milk products from animals on an all-forage diet (100% grassfed) contain significant amounts- of Omega 3 fatty acids, and in the correct forms to meet human dietary needs. According to Dr. Paul Mason, these sources can replace fish, but plant sources of Omega 3s are in the wrong form.
Processing milk damages or destroys much of the nutrient content in milk, and changes the protein, which can cause issues for some people. Others are sensitive to the A! casein mutation found in the milk of some cows (but not sheep, goats, or the 5 or 6 other species regularly used for milk, or in human milk).
For those who are interested in doing this, a well-formulated ketogenic diet (Dr. Stephen Phinney, MD PhD and Jeff Volek, PhD) reduces the need for 'rescue' foods, and provides more beneficial nutrients than we have been led to believe.
Keep in mind that most of the fruits we commonly find in supermarkets have significantly higher levels of sugar than their wild counterparts. Bananas contain approximately 7 teaspoons of sugar, per banana. Grapes and apples are among other fruits which are much higher in sugar than wild fruit.
And our ancestors did not have access to fruits from around the world available 365 days a year.
If you find out more about how to get the benefits of things like turmeric and green tea while avoiding the oxalates, hopefully you will share the info!
There's no oxalates in the oil use that instead
You want date here’s simple solution eat this all in bulks and see what happens
I prefer to go by living proof. I had IC as a child. When I got older my bladder started to hemorrhage. My urologist put me on a medication that ruined my hair! Still in pain everyday so I had to do my own lidocaine bladder injections. Still in pain so I wanted to die. Oh I had surgery too. Finally I got smart & I left my doctor and I went to a natural doctor. They did a blood test to see what foods my body sees toxic. I got better and I haven’t been back to any doc for my bladder in over 10 yrs. I recently went on a carnivore diet and I feel better than ever! I just learned about oxalates in food and little did I know but the foods that my body saw as toxic were very high in oxalates
Can I take other brand of calcium magnesium?
Excellent video and great channel ❤
Can this be seen during a cystoscopy?
Absolutely. I see it myself routinely. Almost 100% of patients complaining of incontinence have it. It looks like red leaking irritated little blood vessels that have proliferated in the bladder wall, and they have trabeculations, little ridges of scar tissue from the incoordination of smooth muscle contractions that make the bladder and urethra fight against each other to urinate.
i am hoping this video is an answered prayer.. i cant handle anymore kidney pain.. the doctors just feed me anti biotics, ive been on them now for 3 months straight, drinking 1-2 litres cranberry juice a day. im losing the plot.
Great information, thank you
I been taking a purslane extract for a month for a scalp condition . Ive got benefits from it as well as with urinary incontinence but unfortunately have had side effects. One of them being that right off the bat my prostate and tip of my urethra felt like on fire and I was only taking 1/8 teaspoon . I have noticed the last 4 to 5 days that i have lowered the dosage in half that Ive got some relief . Oxalates are high in that extract must be, any feedback would be appreciated.
Purslane higher than parsley on Harvard list of oxalate. Need a different herb for your tincture
So is taking some calcium citrate with something high in oxalates a good or bad idea? I'm pretty much carnivore but the one thing I'm having a hard time giving up (besides coffee) is my Theo 70% salted dark chocolate. I eat three or four squares with my coffee every day. :( I'm looking for a way to counter the oxalates. I was gonna just buy some mag citrate powder but apparently all the manufacturers including Now have changed their formula from 1:1 to 3:2 so it's not a true mag citrate and it doesn't desolve in water very well and tastes like crap.
Calcium befoe a meal (egg shells or dairy etc) is protective because it bind it up in the gut. Ca citrate is also likely protective.
@@EONutrition Thanks, Eliot! Big fan!
@@EONutrition - It is fascinating to discover how so many traditional feed combinations- like cream or milk in coffee - actually have real benefits.
I had trouble giving up dark chocolate on carnivore too, I’ve found a square of chilled salted butter on a cocktail stick helps, I nibble small bits off it and it has a similar texture and creaminess which seems to help. My favourite is President salted butter, the French butter is so creamy!
What's anti oxalate acid in food or natural ingredients ?
Thank you very much for your videos!
Can the drug Rituximab cause Oxalates in your urine? It kills your B cells so you basically are urinating out your immune system. I have chronic utis and IC since taking it for Vasculitis in 2013. It is so painful. A lot of fevers with it as well. I am very low in IGA. So immune compromised
Elliot, my dude! Great, great stuff man. I wanted to ask if you knew anything about the oxalate content of raw hulled hemp hearts
Not sure mate, sorry
Yes... see page 11
www.methylationsupport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Oxalate-and-Disease-2015.pdf
Anyone know of a good quality pure magnesium citrate powder? Apparently the two most popular brands on Amazon are junk.
I recommend this one for my clients: www.amazon.co.uk/Viridian-Magnesium-Citrate-Powder-150g/dp/B00JUZA8E4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
@@EONutrition I'll check it out. Thanks!
“Calm” natural magnesium in USA is good
@@Fear6No7Evil How do you know they are "junk"?
@@DarkMoonDroid Read the reviews. They apparently changed the formula.
Will calcium citrate make oxalate dumping symptoms worse or better. Both magnesium and potassium citrate make me dump oxalates so bad I feel like I might die potassium is the worst, k2 also gives me symptoms. I’m carnivore already but only since Christmas. Should I just hold off stuff and let my body do its thing?
It is difficult to say. I would try it and see how it goes, as it tends to be better tolerated than potassium for some reason.
Any treatment
are avacordos high oxalates please reply thank you
DMSO is used to treat interstitial cystitis but I'm not sure of its mechanism of action.
What is DMSO?
Dimethyl sulfoxide is an organosulfur compound instilled into the bladder for ic. I was told it was $800 a dose and insurance won't pay for it. Some say it makes you smell offensive (like a strong garlic like odor).
@@vivavita3769
It's less than $20 on Amazon and how much is a catheter?
It has a garlic taste.
@@IvorMektin1701 My doctor's office will only use pharmacy drugs. DMSO must be a certain % and sterile for bladder insertion. Anyway, l decided against using it. Did it work for you?
@@vivavita3769
I use it for my joints and muscle cramps when I work out too much. I cut the Amazon stuff 50/50 with distilled water, otherwise it itches.
How do I become your client?
I started 70% carnivore diet 2 months ago, then one swollen groin lymph and severe teeth tarter. cause? oxalates?
What about prostatitis and pelvic pain
There can be other causes of prostatitis and pelvic pain, of course, but oxalates can apparently lodge in most any tissue in the body, causing damage and pain.
Scroll down for info on prostatities: sallyknorton.com/symptoms/
So helpful.
Need a oxalates list please and are oats high
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New subscriber here, guess who sent me. Very nice channel, best regards.
Can you get this from oxalate dumping?
Has your condition gotten better in the last month ? And why ?
@@glennfoster6217 I'm still working with a Urologist and don't know what is causing the pain. I getting my 2nd test done tomorrow. We shall see.
@@glennfoster6217Not sure of the problem yet. I go in for results this week.
to b fair we r behind in info cuz they have only been discovering this in last 10 yrs.
Are you still in pain?
Wow, I get serious bladder irritation everytime I eat too many beets. A few here and there not a problem but a little too many and bam. Can oxalates cause inflammation in other parts of the body? I have pain in joints and shoulders I wonder now if it's mediated by my oxalate consumption.
You should watch my other videos/interviews on this. Oxalate deposits in joints/soft tissue long term and can cause pain/discomfort
Interesting
Hi Elliott, just wondering if you have a good source about the oxalate content of specific foods? I have a list that I think was made through harvard, and it says that kale, and coffee are pretty low oxalate content, but i noticed in your video with Bart Kay that you had mentioned kale was high oxalate content. So I'm wondering if mayne you have better research to reference than I do. I'm trying my best to do a low oxalate diet, but im not totally sure if my source is accurate. Thanks!
Sally K Norton has a very accurate list and excellent recipes.
@@lindabell6954 How do you know that her list is better?
@ Since When
I've had the same problem. I don't want to go out and buy a bunch of Kale and then find out it's a problem. I don't have the budget for that. Same with Tuna. Different ranking on different lists. And most of the lists I've seen have different sample sizes on each food so comparison is hard.
Jennifer Grove Sally has researched oxalates for decades. She tries to provide the most current and accurate information.
@@lindabell6954 But how do you know the others haven't done the same?
It seems like everything causes UTI's! Please give me a break already!
New sub some from Bart's channel! :)
I have severe bladder pain I have pain when pee but am eating fruit veg garlic and ginger I tonight am having a mild curry is that ok sometimes help severe back pain in bladder I can't walk property but my ex use to put chemicals in me sexual abuse which I never new until the end and I pee out blood I left the guys years ago but still suffering am having cranberry Juice help
Please see your doctor, do not suffer!!
I’m so sorry, Marshmallow root tea had helped me with ITS spasms..Maybe it can help you
The spices in curry are high in oxalate.
I think you should do the IC diet to control your pain-and remove oxolates
in the words of my dear old 84 yr old dad whom said.......what are we supposed to eat......dirt ?
The weird thing is that I think oxalates dont leave the body through urine in crystal shapes. If so what to do about it, seems that the only person in the world who knows about this is Susan Owens, that smell like business. If u have bladder calculate, u would be not just irritated, but bleeding, and not being able to pee correctly, so to have just irritation or inflammation sounds not very convincing.
this dude saved my life. I cured myself of IC by taking magnesium citrate and d manose. BLESSINGS you are
how long did you take both of them?
Elliot what about hemorrhoids? Especially by insoluble oxalates scraping up your poop hole. Just an idea because I knew a vegan who struggled with hemorrhoids!
How do you explain some people who are vegans or vegetarians and never get problems? And others that we barely eat high oxalates are more susceptible to them? Do they have better and good bacteria in their gut health? 🦠
Same question
Gut bacteria