7 Forgotten Final Fantasy Enemies (That Have Disappeared Into Obscurity) [REDUX]
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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An apology and explanation as to why we updated this video:
After publishing the first version of this video, it became clear pretty quickly that it missed the mark due to there being some significant errors... and we're pretty embarrassed. We are always trying to do our best to produce content that fans of the franchise find interesting, but those errors ruined the enjoyment of the video for many.
We wanted to address those errors by creating this Redux version, or "Version 2". It contains just under 4 minutes of additional content and it (should) address every single piece of erroneous information that was raised in the comments.
We hope this new viersion is more in-line with what you expect from us, and I want to thank you all for not only holding us to a high standard, but by giving us the feedback in a respectable manner. It shows just how great the Final Fantasy Union community is, and we're so grateful to each and everyone of you.
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There has been a ridiculous number of enemies featured across the entire Final Fantasy franchise, but some, that had received a high degree of prominence, have faded into obscurity in recent years.
Red Dragons, for example, used to be a recurring foe that would pose a real challenge to players and Antlions often appeared as bosses. But even though fans of the early games will be very familiar with these enemies, those who have stumbled upon the franchise in more recent years will be none the wiser as to their significance.
Throughout this video, we're going to explore many different types of enemy that had faded in a similar fashion and we hope you enjoy!
►KEY POINTS WITHIN THIS VIDEO
1. Red Dragon Final Fantasy
2. Worms Final Fantasy
3. Omega Weapon Final Fantasy
4. Marilith Final Fantasy
5. Basilisk Final Fantasy
6. Mu Final Fantasy
7. Antlion Final Fantasy
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We finally get the international version of a video. Nice!
FFTA: What about me!?
FF Union: Mentions it
FFTA: *Happy moogle noises*
Oh wow man. Good on you for the corrections. That's dedication
*REDUX CHANGES / PATCH NOTES*
*_Red dragon_*
[] 2:46 Noted that in FFIV, three dragons can be fought simultaneously instead of just one dragon, as in most instances
[] 3:02 Noted that in FFIX, dragons can be fought in groups, similar to FFIV
[] 3:59 Emphasized the commonality of red dragons, in relation to the rest of the dragons, in FFXIV, due to the Crystal Tower being copied straight from FFIII
[] 4:13 Noted appearance of wyverns, and draconic monsters, like Manxom, in FFXV instead of a dragon omission from FFXV
*_Worms_*
[] 6:15 Noted the appearance of "traditional hulking worms" in FFXI, such as the Lambton Worm and Glavoid
[] Noted the appearance of worms in FFXIV, such as the Sand Worm, Giant Tunnel Worm, Glavoid (borrowed from FFXI), Minhocao, and Gigaworm, instead of a worm omission from FFXIV, other than fish bait
[] Noted allusions to worms in FFXV, such as the Abyss Worm fishing lure, and Immortalis (the giant mechanical worm-like)
*_Omega Weapon_*
[] 7:30 Cleared confusion between Omega (FFV), its popular appearances in FFXI, FFXII, FFXIII-2, FFXIV, and FFXV, and emphasized Omega Weapon (FFVI)
[] 9:21 Noted Omega Weapon's lore in FFX-2
[] 9:57 Noted design similarity of Omega in FFXIV, having the appearance of Omega Weapon
*_Marilith_*
[] Omitted line: "Marilith (FFI) payed tribute to the Shitennō concept found within Japanese culture that harkened back to the Sengoku period, where Daimyō, in this case, Chaos (FFI), would appoint four generals to special positions of honor."
[] 12:29 Noted that Marilith appears as a summon in: War of the Visions: Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
*_Basilisk_*
[] 13:18 Noted that in FFIV, Basilisks have an abiliy that inflicts gradual petrification, often as a counter
[] 14:26 Included a FFXIV mention, borrowing the model from FFXI
[] 14:54 Included historical/mythological account of Cockatrice/Basilisk confusion, and its portrayal in FFIII and FFXV
*_Mu_*
[] 15:39 Noted similarity to enemies, such as the Petit (FFIII) and Nutkin (FFV)
*_Antlion_*
[] 19:05 Corrected mention of FFIX disc two instead of disc one
[] 20:11 Included a FFXIV mention
[] 20:24 Noted similarity of the Antlion in FFXII to the blue-colored Antlion from FF:Tactics Advance and FFXII:Revenant Wings; also the Antlion Queen's traditional red coloring
[] Noted the Antlion in FFXIV, borrowing the model from FFXI; also "Orcus" in FFXIV's Stormblood expansion, and emphasized that neither enemies represent a pit-dwelling-boss; not since FFIX
I feel like the reason for most of these creatures being phased out slowly is due to the game no longer being based solely off D&D, which in FF1 and the other earlier titles, took a great deal of inspiration.
Thisbis what i think as well
I really wish they would go back to DnD monsters for just one game,
I prefer the medieval setting over the futuristic style imo
@@bettywhite2694 it seems FF is going back to medieval roots for XVI, so there’s that
It's certainly one reason, but another reason is due to a lot of the more recent titles going for more hardcore realism and sci-fi.
Notable examples include:
Final Fantasy XIII had several classical monsters that appeared in concept art get scratched due to not fitting in with Cocoon's futuristic environment, and Gran Pulse's semi-futuristic Nomadic environment. Surprisingly still had the Ochus from DnD.
Final Fantasy XV in particular aimed to avoid classic fantasy due to Tabata's insistence that the game needed by 100% grounded in reality, with many of the creatures being based on those seen in real life.
Final Fantasy VII Remake also is one that aimed to be more grounded in realism with many fantasy creatures that were originally random encounters in the PS version regulated to bosses to avoid looking out place in the modern sci-fi environment of Midgard.
Luckily games like Final Fantasy XIV, XII, and XI kind of still have/had a lot of classic enemies appear, even if in name only.
You guys deserve massive amounts of respect, specially considering that you simply just overlooked some things, yet took the time to correct it. I know youtubers that have made massive errors and simply decide to leave it as is because, and I quote, "It would be too much work and we're busy".
Plus, another FF Union video is always welcomed.
Most youtubers would've just pin a comment saying "my bad, lol" and leave it at that
@@luciorock07
Leaving corrections in a pinned comment and in the description is fine so long as the corrections are relatively minor.
Instablaster...
You mean I get to watch this video AGAIN?!?!?!
YAAAAASSSSSSS GURRRLLLLL
Props to you guys for taking something that could have been a sour spot on your pretty spotless record of content, and turning it into a positive.
Context?
@@Walamonga1313 The video was updated to resolve a lot of errors it originally had.
So much respect for this redux! I recognize that a significant portion of these details come from the MMOs, both of which have an absolutely absurd quantity of content to scour through. And, well, let's just say that I do not envy the standards that you guys hold yourself to! Thanks for making the content extra great!
Yeah, I imagine that one day the MMOs will have just about every obscure item from the other games in them in some form or other.
Good on you guys for admitting a mistake and trying to fix it, gonna give this another watch with a bowl of cereal
FFTA gets a mention now, good for it!
My first FF game.
@@trontosaurusrex9532 what a shame.
@@trontosaurusrex9532 Yup
Among my favorites till date
Could replay that one anytime
@@trontosaurusrex9532 And you kept playing Final Fantasy games when that was your only experience with them? ... *Why?!*
I have to admit, it wasn't until this redux that I realized that Omega and Omega Weapon were different entities. The explanation here makes a lot more sense, although it doesn't really make the difference any less confusing!
Great video!
I would love a video about unique monsters from each game too.
The Tactics advanced shoutout at the end and expanding on most of the FFXV information was a nice addition.
I normally don't watch the reuploads, but I'm glad I stuck around for this one. Great job on the video.
Great update on Omega! Very impressed you actually updated the video. Liked and subbed for the good effort. Honestly, your point about Omega changing into Omega weapon in the FF14 raid seemed like that was just a normal part of Omega, something it was always capable of. Omega Weapon in FF8 has a similar enough design to Omega in FF5, just a centuar version. I always counted Omega Weapon as an iteration of Omega.
I do like the update of Omega as well. I do feel Omega Weapon in Final Fantasy VI Advanced should be mentioned as it is a pallet swap of Ultima Weapon and does not deviate from the Omega Weapon aesthetic.
Lich also appeared as a random encounter in the cave to land of the Espers in FF VI. Kraken also appeared as a boss in FF III.
Your content is so good that I didn’t even know that the last video was screwed. Good video tho
I'm deeply surprised, when i first spoted this video i thought you'd just added in text massages correcting some errors but you really reworked it and that just shows how dedicated you guys are, thank you and i think a lot of people appreciate this, please keep up with the good work
Well done to you guys for going back and researching again, great video again! Love all the thought and quality in every upload
Holy shit, this is great! Would that other RUclipsrs, particularly gaming RUclipsrs, showed more humility and willingness to own up to and correct errors. I once pointed out a minor error in a video produced by a certain "foreign kuribo" (*ahem*), and in a later video in which he had apparently been planning to use the same content he reworded it so as to "fudge" the information and not admit to having made a mistake in the first place, but by fudging it he just made the error worse. I fully expected this to be the "standard" way of reacting to constructive criticism in this part of the Internet, but this has very much restored my faith.
Kudos to you, FFU, and many more to come.
That being said, I should probably offer a word of advice if you are going to produce these redux videos in the future. It might be better to wait at least a week or so. I am not sure how long the editing on this version took, but it seems likely that it was already in the works when I made my comment on the other video. If, say, you repeated an error in the redux version that hadn't been pointed out by anyone in the two short days the original video was up before this one, it would be very an awful waste not to be able to incorporate that correction in a video you went out of your way to re-edit and re-upload. If the haste was because you didn't want more comments coming in about the same errors in the short term, I wonder if a better solution might not be to post a notice that a revised version is in the works in the video description or even the video title (I understand that the latter is something channel owners can do..?).
Channels like OutsideXtra will (and have) made mistakes like in the previous release of this video and ignored all criticism and kept going. But you guys? You went back and accounted for it, and that is why you're the best, and why I'm proud to be a subscriber. Stay awesome guys!
Nice! I’m happy that FFTA wasn’t overlooked here. FFTA is simply one of my favorite games of all time and I wish it was looked at more often by most reviewers.
I'm glad you added more info about omega! Especially the ff15 version. Both videos were amazing!
Good stuff guys - Thanks for taking the time to add a lot more information to this - This is now an "International Version"!
We just got Diamond Weapon boss in FFXIV too! Awesome video!
And spoilers :
the return of Tiamat.
Shout out to the FF Union crew for the extra work put into this video! You didn't have to take that extra effort to incorporate those missing details but you did it and we love you for it ❤
Great video!
I'm currently finishing my second playthrough of FFXV, and was surprised to see Omega Weapon pop up in an area of the Crown City at the end of the game. I don't remember it being there when I played through the first time (which was before all the updates back in 2017), so I thought you might be interested to know big boi has been brought back! :)
Awesome update to the (recently released) original! I watched it again to catch everything. I wouldn't have even known things were omitted but it really says a lot about your character to put the facts out there where they need to be, given new information. Props, man.
I salute you guys for taking the time to revisit this. Never doubted you
Loved the video and the details! Side note: I'm happy that alot of these forgotten enemies are in World of Final Fantasy to enjoy!
Thanks guys for the redux, and so fast! Appreciation is maximum. Let it never be said FF Union doesn't take pride in the quality of their content.
Love redemption arcs, and this is one of the humble ones. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for another bountiful upload!
I really have to applaud the rework of the video from fixing the misinformation. You earned a new sub.
Man. I absolutely love your content. Specially as a FF superfan.
Great vid!
Great video I watched the original cut yet I had to watch again.
this redux is one of the many reasons why yall are one of the best channels on here.
did want to mention you missed the Cave Worm from Crystal Chronicles, though it is sort of a departure from the standard Worm design.
Missed opportunity to call this Reduc something crazy like: 1.5 Final Remake International Deluxe Redux.
Love you guys. 😎
Looking forward to the next video.
Good god your voice while talking about the Mu was amazing
Good job on the redux version ! ^^
Just wanted to add for the cockatrix, as in FF15 they are in FF11 too (and with the petrify breath ) named "Cockatrice" :)
And with your video, i discovered after almost 20 years that the insectoid monsters are called ant-lion, not anti-lion .... better late than never ! lol
Good on you all for creating a redux, but extra kudos for not deleting the old video so we can compare the two.
Well done! Kudos
I'd like to add my voice to the people who commended you for going back and working on this vid. You made some mistakes in the original, you took full responsibility, and corrected them, kudos!
Thanks for the update. Pro move.
Just watched the original last night while winding down for the day. Finally subbing.
Love this channel
The fact they went back and updated the information received in the comments is pretty amazing 👏
*1:09*
Always loved that picture of Tiamat and Severin from Neverwinter.
Demon trains. I’d like to see them make a comeback. Why didn’t we get to fight any more trains?
Worms are no longer used. Then proceeds to show various worms from all the most recent games.
Uhh, didn't notice anything wrong with the first version of this video. I mean, good for some corrections, but I believe that the first video was just as good as this version.
It had a few big oversights, it needed a correcting in some way.
@@intensellylit4100 Yeah, but I guess I just didn't find anything wrong.
@@intensellylit4100 Which are? Can you list them
@@Walamonga1313 Some of the information relating to FFXIV was incorrect, such as saying the worms and antlions weren't in it, when they're actually in it quite near the beginning of the game.
Actually, Kraken refers to the octopus family of mobs in FFXI, which includes NMs such as Charybdis which guards the Joyeuse sword, which has a "double attack" trait of 40%. Meaning out of ten melee swings, four of those swings will be double attacks.
ffxi also has the worms that can swallow you as a nod to the gogo quest in 6 and they leave you in a battlefield. also, the antlions in XI weren't just found above ground. at least one zone featured them underground where they ambush players if they traverse over their locations
14:32 Trying to fight a basilisk as a miner is both ballsy and oddly fitting due to basilisks being known for petrification.
If you haven't done so already, do a video on obscure summons in the series, please.
The enemy designs have certainly started to become a bit sanitised in recent games. The Sahagins in FFXV for example. Lost virtually all of their fantasy/mythological aesthetic and are basically upright reptiles.
Genuinely impressed with this. :D
Glad to see the Mu and highlight on Antlion because the Antlion is an awesome creature.
I know this is about a year old, and I'm not sure if this has been pointed out between then and now on another video or comment but I want to mention that in Final Fantasy 6 on the GBA and later releases that built upon it feature Omega Weapon as a superboss if the player returns to the end of Dragon's Den after defeating Kaiser Dragon and going through the dungeon again.
Great video. Well done on the revision. ~ superseraphim87
"Who doesn't love squirrels?"
>Etrian Odessey would like to know your location
Goddammit...
15:25
If I recall correctly, the basilisk also appeared as a boss in FF8, in the form of two basilisks that used to be statues and were brought to live by Edea in order to kill Rinoa.
No they weren't Basilisk
@@Chrisheart322 what the fuck? Dude, I honestly could swear that they were called basilisks, so I was looking for their names in order to give you a link and all that and ¡Surprise! they're actually called Iguion. Also, in the Spanish version they're called gargoyles, so I was wrong in two languages.
😕
I was sure that the were basilisks, I don't know why. I guess that I stand corrected.
@Some random guy we all make mistakes, but I just knew because of how many times I've played through the game.
I didn't see it mentioned in the video, so I would like to put out there that the Iguions from FFVIII are kinda the basilisks of that game, since they are a type of lizard that uses a petrifying magma breath.
You know, something I came up with for a future Antlion fight, namely for FFXVI, was to base it on the Molduga from Breath of the Wild, where it starts out in the hole and can begin to use burrowing attacks to surprise you. Then, during the second phase, it becomes more aggressive and *leaves* the pit to rush you down, while still using burrowing attacks in a more aggressive manner. Just a thought.
I can only imagine just how epic it would be to see an Omega/Weapon in FFXVI.
@@emiach I meant 16, my bad.
Well good work. Although I was thinking foes that showed up once and never again. F.F. 9 has more than one to fit this.
ATMA weapon just sounds so much cooler..and I live in Japan...
Also, Mews were present in FF13-2, as a healer class monster.
It could be argued the Mu monster is rebranded as the marmot style of monster in FFXIV. It’s a small grey squirrel type of enemy.
There was a red dragon in lightning returns.
Great corrections, great content, as always. However, I'm pretty sure that the Mu first appeared in FFV as the Nutkin and Skull Eater enemies. The fact that they both have orange tails with a white puffy tip is kind of a giveaway that they are intended to be the same family of enemies. I feel bad nitpicking, I'll stop now.
Fun fact, the basilisk and cockatrice actually share an origin. theres a great Monstrum episode about it
Yeah red dragons are intimidating, but that gas dragon sprite from FF1 gave me nam flashbacks and unbridled rage. If those bastards kill your white mage in the last dungeon you’re fucked.
The fact that I missed FF11 at it's height will always be one of my greatest regrets.
Everything I see about it, to have been able to play it from the beginning 😭😭😭
My god, I can dream, I can dream.
how exactly does "hasn't been seen for exactly one main numbered game that is still one of the most played games in the series" equate to "fallen into obscurity"?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the care put into acknowledging the storeyed history of traditional FF monsters that date all the way back to when FF was just a D&D knockoff, but really. I don't think when the last game we saw them in is the game immediately before the current released game, you can call it "obscurity."
Bonus fact, a mechanical Heartless version of the Antlion appeared as a boss in Agrabah Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
There everyone, they have fixed their errors. I say this goes on the Top 10 Anime Redemption arcs.
lol, FFXIV is like a refuge for forgotten enemies
Wait. Didn't FF5 have some variation of "weapon" (Atma?) just before (in the middle of) entering The Rift (just before Gilgamesh pt 3)? Between Atmos, Atma, and Ultima localizations, I've lost track as to which is which :(
Atma Weapon was the SNES localization of Ultima Weapon in VI, fought on the Floating Continent. I'm not sure which one you might be thinking of in V.
You are thinking of Omega which is not a Weapon. Just an interdimensional robot.
I’d love to see the chocobo eaters return. Maybe like a spin off chocobo rancher game? 🤔
dunno. They may have shown up in more than just FFX, but that fight was always interesting and enjoyable to me
I always did wonder why every dragon in ffxiv had names and then the dragon in crystal tower was just called Red Dragon. Cool!
Most of these monsters appeared in the majority of the games lol.
Where is that cgi footage of what appears to be the FF1 WoL slicing a fireball in half from? It’s during the Red Dragon section, at the 02:00 minute mark.
Final Fantasy Origins (PlayStation, 2002); It's the opening to Final Fantasy I.
Other than a few spin-offs, Rubicant and Barbariccia/Valvalis never appeared again or even at least enemies alluding to them outside of FFIV and FFIV AY. Milion Z and Cagnazzo on the other hand can be allusions to Lich and Kraken respectively.
The mentioning of Tiamat in this video and the release of the newest FF XIV patch (Patch 5.5) on the same day... This can't be a coincidence (And no, I will not spoil the FF XIV bit... Bit too early for that).
Watched them both, both good.
Omega Weapon mark 12 is on the top floor of the crystal in FFXII so Omega Weapon technically appears in one more game after X and X-2
Love the ff 8 bgm
Zemzelett will always live on in my heart.
I'm so glad you updated this video so quickly! I must admit, I was very disappointed and considered unsubbing after the big errors in the previous version. FFXIV was my introduction to Final Fantasy and is still my favourite game of all time, so seeing the disregard for it with the misinformation in the original video hurt somewhat. But the fact that you took the time to create this redux video, and so quickly, has definitely cemented my continued sub and support :)
I hope these enemies get some love in the later games that get released
Great video as always. So I tried clicking the Spotify but it doesn't go to the Playlist. Can anyone tell me the name of this particular song. Would love to listen to it while I study. Thanks.
yes, here's the link: open.spotify.com/artist/6ImfL6wSxqhYl64AbsaNZX
@@kazumekku thank you!
@@bradgrigsby1653 yes, np, particular song is "Force Your Way" (#76 on playlist: open.spotify.com/playlist/6E1xmKvbojnG3HjzVNVyyv) (#6 on album: open.spotify.com/album/1zcykEOEVYqBhxI6D6On8X)
"They've barely been in any new games(aside from all of the recent games we mentioned)"
I just watched this video 4 hours ago.
Then A Redux spawned
Where can I find the version of song in background at the start? 1 of my favourite tracks from ff8 is the fire cavern
Didn't even mention Ehll Tou, the best red dragon. DX
Haven't played it in 15 years but isn't there a red dragon esque creature guarding something in the thunderplanes in FFX2?
I'm slightly confused by the inclusion of the Basilisk in general here. If the Basilisk appears in basically every entry of Final Fantasy in some manner... how has it "Disappeared into Obscurity"?