Mario Sunshine actually definitively takes place AFTER Super Mario 64 and Super Mario World. In the cutscene where Mario first meets Fludd, Fludd does an analysis of Mario's identity including his past adventures, and in the corner you can see him running a replay of some of Mario's previous outings, namely Super Mario Bros. 1, Super Mario World, and Super Mario 64, meaning those three games are confirmed to have taken place BEFORE Sunshine. One of the few definitive timeline placements we officially have.
Another thing is SMB2 (lost levels) take place directly before SMB3, with a Japanese guide even explaining Morton is hatched from an egg by Mario on accident right before he reaches bowser’s room, and fake bowser(or bowser’s brother) replaced real bowser who returned to dark world and then SMB3 takes place
A really cool detail I remember from Super Mario Odyssey is that if Mario has the gold costume equipped, Bowser's dialogue changes to mention that he is afraid of him, referencing how Gold Mario could one-shot Bowser in New Super Mario Bros. 2.
Now, great video, but there is one critical game that you forgot. Donkey Kong Jr. Math. While Mario was teaching typing, Donkey Kong Jr wasn't going more insane, he was actually getting smarter and plotting his revenge. He made a fake Math program to add onto Mario's typing program, so all the money made from Mario teaches typing got sent to Donkey Kong JR instead, and that's how he had enough money to buy a cart to participate in Mario Kart
This means that yoshi is older than almost every Mario character I didn’t know that they lived that long. ( Also this was genuinely the funniest video I’ve seen in a long time, keep it up 👍)
"There is no official Mario timeline, _or even a half-decent fanmade one."_ Actually, Seán D. Walsh has an incredibly detailed and thorough Mario timeline on his tumblr blog. It's a bit _too_ thorough for some people, but even so, the logic is very solid and very well-thought out.
Oh please, we all know that Mario is contractually obligated to play buddy-buddy with Bowser during the spinoffs because Shigeru Miyamoto is Bowser Jr's mother (as confirmed during an interview when he was asked if he knew who Bowser Jr's mom is and he nodded and pointed at himself).
In the instruction manual for Dr. Mario, we get this: *Hi everybody! I'm Mario. How's it going? Over the last few years, I've been involved in some pretty wild adventures. Now, believe it or not, I work in the virus research lab at the Mushroom Kingdom Hospital. Today I'm about to begin my research as usual.* *"Dr. Mario, something terrible has happened!"* *"What's wrong, nurse Toadstool?" "One of the experiments has gone out of control. The viruses are spreading quickly!"* *"Oh No! We've got to do something! I have just developed a new vitamin that should be able to take care of it. I sure hope this stuff works!"* With this, we know that Dr. Mario takes place LAST in the timeline, seemingly regardless of what gets added in the future. So no, Dr. Mario is not just 'one of Mario's pre-Super jobs', but rather his permanent job after the adventures are over, and the epilogue of the Super Mario timeline.
Umm... no? Dr. Mario literally shows us the origins of the Viruses and Megavitamins, the former of which appeared in Superstar Saga, the latter of which appeared in Wario Land 2, and both of which reappeared in the first WarioWare game. Combine this with the fact that Mario is apparently not even on a first name basis with Peach yet, and it's clear that despite happening after "a few years" of adventures, Dr. Mario is still very early in the series overall. (and before you ask, the official explanation from Miyamoto himself for how he could become a doctor so fast is because he isn't actually licensed to begin with, he just started chucking the new vitamins he was developing at the viruses and was lucky enough that they turned out to be total miracle cures lol) According to his Japanese Melee trophy, he had become a Doctor by the age of 26 *at maximum*, yet we know for a fact that by the time of Luigi's Mansion, he's in his thirties *at minimum* due to E. Gadd being 60+ years old and having moved there during his twenties (which happened in PiT when the Bros. were only a year or two old.), so there is plenty of time for Dr. Mario to take place "a few years" after his many adventures began, but still before Luigi's Mansion. If we're as generous as possible and assume that E. Gadd is exactly 60 in Luigi's Mansion and 29 during PiT's past, that's a minimum of 31 years, plus 1 or 2 extra to account for the Baby Bros. existing age at the time, making it fundamentally impossible for Mario and Luigi to be any younger than 32-33 when they re-encountered E. Gadd as adults, and that number can only grow *larger* if E. Gadd was younger than 29 in PiT or older than 60 in LM. We can actually narrow things down a bit further thanks to some in-character journal/diary entries from Wario, which state that Wario Land 4 takes place on November 19th 2001 (its NA release date), and WarioWare Inc. takes place on March 21st 2003 (its JP release date). Dr. Mario definitely takes place before WL2, which happens before WL4, meaning that the Mario Bros. (and many others in the main cast) were most likely born sometime in the early to mid 70's (possibly even late 60's), and by extension, that's the general timeframe that most of the Yoshi's Island games take place in too.
So the whole Mario timeline is only made possible by chronological shenanigans in an attempt to escape racism allegations on TwittX? Yeah I'm fine with this. Honestly, Nintendo, make it canon so the screaming stops.
The Mario movie is a different universe from the games. It clearly goes for different lore like making Cranky a king and DK's father instead of a retired old man and DK's grandfather.
You forgot two crucial game series that are also part of the Mario universe! See, the Kong Isle and the Kongs existing implies that Donkey Kong 3 took place, which has multiple bear NPCs, their names all starting with B. There are, like, 15 bears with B names. But anyway, this is only exhibit A; on another side, there is Diddy Kong Racing, which is something VERY important here. Diddy Kong Racing not only includes Diddy, of course, but also Banjo, from the Banjo Kazooie franchise, who is said to be a friend of Diddy, and also Conker is here, said to also be a friend. This means that the entirety of Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Banjo Kazooie: Grunty’s revenge, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, as well as the Conker games ALL HAPPENED in the same world as Mario.
Just my own thing that might just be headcannon, but whatever. -Mario creates his own Toy Company, showing that Mario dives into industry -Mario + Rabbids shows Mario about universes beyond his own -Mario invites Link and Isabelle to Mario Kart -Mario discovers a way to make it save for Inklings to exist underwater, allowing them to be in Mario Kart too -Mario then goes on to create Super Smash Bros. both in universe and then also as a game, allowing his toy company to expand into a video game company (now where have I heard this before?) -Link and Samus come to trust Mario and his world, thus they can be found resting in the inn in Mario RPG -Wario hates Mario and wants to prove he's better than Mario, so he creates his own gaming company, WarioWare, Inc. -Someone else hates Mario and want to be better than him, so they go out and discover Sonic, thus creating Sega (a Sonic twitter takeover actually suggests that Sonic and his friends work in an office space together and that they are aware of the Sonic video games being created) -Mario and Sonic eventually set aside their differences, but not Mario and Wario, thus Wario's company continues to try to be in competition with Mario's while Mario and Sonic become chill
This headcanon is actually amazing. If we wanted to try and follow the canon for smash bros, it could also be a kid playing with toys from the Mario toy company assuming they started making toys for other characters, which (if I remember correctly) is how smash 64 starts out, and apparently Sakurai confirmed that smash ultimate is also using toys and not the canon characters (idk about the other smash games tho)
Well, part of the reason Link is found at the inn in Mario RPG is because Zelda kicked him out of the house for a week for flying a korok into hyrule castle.
This is definitely the best Mario timeline to exist..... simply due to the fact that you tried so damn hard to fit EVERYTHING Mario into the timeline without leaving anything out... BETTER then what most others would do trying to fit together the insane timeline of the plumber man who is secretly a psychopath...
Really fun video to watch. I've always wanted a video going over this exact subject as I care alot about stuff like this in franchises. By the way, I don't know if you know this but there's an entire Sub-reddit for Mario Lore. They did a really good job on creating a entire Mario Timeline that I think you would enjoy looking at. Im not the one that made it, and I can't post links on comments, but if you're curious, it's made by a user and youtuber called "Seandwalsh".
I’m sick as balls rn but you’re vids are making my dreadful experience much more enjoyable. Thank you, Mr.Nintendo Video Man. I will return again. (Not a threat)
I don't agree with somethings in the timeline, if you can believe it. Mario never said the n-word. Let me explain: When Mario started a toy company in the series Mario vs. Donkey Kong, he invited Pauline, the political figure, as a guest of honor. So, we can assume they were still on good terms (either that or they made up, but since the conflict with the Kongs was still ongoing, I would go for the latter). This means Mario had a relationship (probably not romantic) with both Pauline and Peach at the same time (he lived a double life, no separation in the timeline needed). But since Pauline wasn't invited to events like tennis or racing contrary to Peach, it makes me think he and Pauline had a falling out, which brings Mario 64 into the picture. You gloss over it in your video, but the game is more important than you think, since it introduces that Mario held homophobic views, illustrated by him using the term 'gay Bowser' as an insult to his enemy. After being informed of that, Pauline detached herself from Mario in the sake of her campaign.
In Paper Mario Color Splash, after Bowser gets conscious after an amount of paint gets off of him, he asks if Mario's going to ask him to go karting again. This means that the Mushroom Kingdom and Bowser Kingdom, when not at war, do get along pretty well.
Various thoughts (I know this video is mostly a joke, but I'm still gonna point out some flaws lol): - Toadsworth didn't raise the bros. They still lived with their parents. They were visiting Peach for a playdate in Partners in Time. A fun headcanon is that the Shroob invasion is what prompted his family moved to New Donk CIty. - Donkey Kong isn't a real world gorilla, so it's entirely possible that they just mature extremely quickly and live most of their lives in their prime. We see other kongs age super quickly, such as with DK Jr, who goes from baby to adult in Super Mario Kart. As well as Tiny Kong, who goes from child to adult as well. That doesn't make it not confusing, but at least the confusion has some consistency lol. - Mario actually wasn't a doctor until post-Super Mario Bros. The game's manual says he's helping out at the Mushroom Kingdom hospital. - Wario Land is explicitly canon to WarioWare, as there are numerous references to the Land games throughout the Ware series. So that timeline split has to happen later in the timeline, _after_ the Land games. - Super Mario Kart has to take place at least after Super Mario World, because Yoshi is there. Also Mario's Tennis also features the adult DK Jr, so I'm guessing he survived the car accident and they had to get him into a 2nd, more effective car crash. - The official explanation for Bowser being in the spin-offs varies from game to game. In Mario Kart, he just wanted to prove he was better than Mario, and this seems to apply for a lot of the other games. In Mario Party, as well as some of the sports, he straight up just crashes the party because he's upset that he wasn't invited. Bowser is petty, so he's willing to put evil aside to compete and show he's the best from time to time. I thought the running gag of Bowser helping or shifting blame being the reason he was invited to be pretty genius for this video though. Good joke - Luigi's Mansion features a Power Star, meaning it likely wouldn't take place until after Super Mario 64, but it's also possible Mario just has a power star for some reason. There's nothing saying he couldn't have just owned one. HOWEVER, Super Mario Sunshine _MUST_ follow Super Mario 64, as when FLUDD meets Mario, he displays video clips from past games, and that includes 64. - Bowser being allowed to play Tennis because of Dream Team is hilarious. Love the energy of this video. In Dream Team, Bowser tries to wipe Mario & Luigi off the face of the earth using the dream stone, fails, and then eats the dream stone and tries to kill em that way. So the events of that game giving him a free pass to play sports would be absurd You definitely seem to get why Nintendo doesn't like to make timelines. The Mario games have loads of connections, continuity, and lore, but they also happen in their own bubbles. There isn't a big overarching plot to link everything together. Things happen just because they happen. It's actually incredibly easy to create a timeline of the mainline games, as each one has obvious things connecting each of them together, especially nowadays where some of the lore gets pretty deep (Captain Toad connects everything maaaaaan, he's the key to everythinggggg). But ultimately a timeline for where all the sports, parties, etc doesn't matter. They happened at some point in the past, and that's all that matters. This is also why the Kirby devs outright stated there's no Kirby timeline. When exactly games happened is irrelevant. They happened in the past, and that's all that matters going forward. Anyway, really fun video 👍
The Warioland games do NOT take place is sarassaland, sorry. Wario debuted taking over Mario’s private island (super Mario land 2: six golden coins), and the alien final boss from sarassaland returns as a world boss. Wario Land 1 takes place on syrup island, while wario land 2 begins in wario’s own castle he bought from the genie at the end of wario land 1. Wario land 3 takes place inside the music box, which wario finds potentially in the same forest from “wario’s woods” and “wario & mario”. Lastly, wario land 4 is perhaps the first formal hint of diamond city from wario ware series. Regardless, by wario land 4 wario lives in a city, and drives his iconic purple spoiler car out of the city to a pyramid in the jungle. Wario Land shake it is dumb but I think takes place back at syrup island again? And master of disguise 100% doesn’t count as a real wario land game. Wario land virtual boy could be sarassaland, but I think it’s a direct continuation of the adventure in syrup island.
Just popped up in my recommended and I feel like this video is going to make your channel blow up. It is so fun and well made and it's like a really popular topic online. I really hope that this video does super well for you, and you definitely earned my subscription
It's funny how Cranky Kong exiles Donkey Kong Jr. for beating Donkey Kong, despite being seen beating Donkey Kong in Donkey Kong Country. I'm pretty sure the WarioWare games take place in the same timeline as the Wario Land games, since they reference each other. No jumping through hoops are necessary to justify Bowser being in the spinoffs. Bowser is there because he wants to beat Mario, simple as that.
I have to object to the absence of I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater which obviously slots in perfectly between The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker and Sonic Dreams Collection. it just makes sense!
Wait, this has less than 100 views? Also I know this was kind of a joke but 64 and 3 have to come before sunshine because when fludd scans Mario there's footage of mario 3 and 64 in the corner of the screen.
It's actually Mario 1, Mario World, and Mario 64, not Mario 3, but yeah (and honestly, just the fact those three games are confirmed to be before Sunshine means 3 probably is as well regardless of it not being explicitly shown there).
DK Jr. Actually changes his name during the great banana wars to avoid the draft and ends up hiding out in his ptsd fueled rage out in bear country as seen in Banjo Kazooie
Wouldn’t it make more sense that after Mario Party 3 the events of DDR Mario Mix happen? Waluigi did say he “wouldn’t forget this” after all In Paper Mario after you defeat Bowser there’s a line about how the Mushroom Kingdom is 100% sure Bowser is dead. In Luigi’s Mansion 1 there’s a fortune teller, when it’s revealed Bowser is in the mansion she says “No that’s impossible Bowser was thought to be dead” or something. Earlier in the game one of the portrait ghosts reads a book that says “Paper Mario” on it (or something idr) meaning paper Mario did happen and Mario turned the events into a marketable book that this ghost has for some reason. At the end of New Super Mario Bros Wii. During the credits you can hear Peach saying what she says in the letter at the beginning of Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 before being interrupted by Bowser. SMG2 released after NSMBW, and this was hinting at SMG2. DONT GET ME STARTED ON HOW SMASH BROS FITS! When Luigi’s Mansion was remade for the 3DS Nintendos website had a story about Prof. E. Gadd accidentally created Googi and then sent him back in time to the events of Luigi’s Mansion 1 to help Luigi (which is what we play in the 2 player mode of that remake) Because of Captain Toad Treasure Tracker Super Mario 3D World, and Super Mario Oddessey can not exist in the same timeline. As depending on what version of Captain Toad Treasure Tracker you play leads into the events of a different Mario game. Super Mario Galaxy has to take place after FNAF AR as Bouldergeist is secretly Boulder Toy Bonnie. In the recreation of the Game & Watch game Manhole in one of the Game and Watch Gallery games we see hundreds, no thousands of Donkey Kong Jrs. Donkey Kong Jr. also appears multiple times in the crowd in Mario Kart Double Dash. There’s also a pink Donkey Kong Jr. in Donkey Kong Jr. Math. I have no idea what this means timeline wise but it is important none the less.
Sorry I was trying it out to see how I and others felt about it. I will say it made the editing process a little nicer since I didn’t have to hunt through Mario art or try to create a very specific type of image for one scene but if people don’t like it I won’t do it. Reply to this reply if you’d also like to say that you dislike the use of AI art in my videos a community post on the issue will likely come in the next few days as well.
Yes I dislike it, it looks disgusting, can cause fits in people with unreality issues and is based on stolen art from regular artists.just any of the 12 million sad Mario images would of worked fine there@@PMJ11_
Mario Sunshine actually definitively takes place AFTER Super Mario 64 and Super Mario World. In the cutscene where Mario first meets Fludd, Fludd does an analysis of Mario's identity including his past adventures, and in the corner you can see him running a replay of some of Mario's previous outings, namely Super Mario Bros. 1, Super Mario World, and Super Mario 64, meaning those three games are confirmed to have taken place BEFORE Sunshine. One of the few definitive timeline placements we officially have.
Another thing is SMB2 (lost levels) take place directly before SMB3, with a Japanese guide even explaining Morton is hatched from an egg by Mario on accident right before he reaches bowser’s room, and fake bowser(or bowser’s brother) replaced real bowser who returned to dark world and then SMB3 takes place
A really cool detail I remember from Super Mario Odyssey is that if Mario has the gold costume equipped, Bowser's dialogue changes to mention that he is afraid of him, referencing how Gold Mario could one-shot Bowser in New Super Mario Bros. 2.
Now, great video, but there is one critical game that you forgot. Donkey Kong Jr. Math. While Mario was teaching typing, Donkey Kong Jr wasn't going more insane, he was actually getting smarter and plotting his revenge. He made a fake Math program to add onto Mario's typing program, so all the money made from Mario teaches typing got sent to Donkey Kong JR instead, and that's how he had enough money to buy a cart to participate in Mario Kart
Truly the Legend of Zelda Monopoly of Mario
And DK Jr ended up letting go of his grudge and later became an accountant, as seen in NES Open Tournament Golf.
This means that yoshi is older than almost every Mario character I didn’t know that they lived that long. ( Also this was genuinely the funniest video I’ve seen in a long time, keep it up 👍)
I like how he just gradually goes more and more insane as the timeline goes on
"There is no official Mario timeline, _or even a half-decent fanmade one."_
Actually, Seán D. Walsh has an incredibly detailed and thorough Mario timeline on his tumblr blog.
It's a bit _too_ thorough for some people, but even so, the logic is very solid and very well-thought out.
I think you'll find that my timeline is clearly superior
@@PMJ11_ oh, but of course
Can you link it
Oh please, we all know that Mario is contractually obligated to play buddy-buddy with Bowser during the spinoffs because Shigeru Miyamoto is Bowser Jr's mother (as confirmed during an interview when he was asked if he knew who Bowser Jr's mom is and he nodded and pointed at himself).
In the instruction manual for Dr. Mario, we get this:
*Hi everybody! I'm Mario. How's it going? Over the last few years, I've been involved in some pretty wild adventures. Now, believe it or not, I work in the virus research lab at the Mushroom Kingdom Hospital. Today I'm about to begin my research as usual.*
*"Dr. Mario, something terrible has happened!"*
*"What's wrong, nurse Toadstool?" "One of the experiments has gone out of control. The viruses are spreading quickly!"*
*"Oh No! We've got to do something! I have just developed a new vitamin that should be able to take care of it. I sure hope this stuff works!"*
With this, we know that Dr. Mario takes place LAST in the timeline, seemingly regardless of what gets added in the future. So no, Dr. Mario is not just 'one of Mario's pre-Super jobs', but rather his permanent job after the adventures are over, and the epilogue of the Super Mario timeline.
Umm... no? Dr. Mario literally shows us the origins of the Viruses and Megavitamins, the former of which appeared in Superstar Saga, the latter of which appeared in Wario Land 2, and both of which reappeared in the first WarioWare game. Combine this with the fact that Mario is apparently not even on a first name basis with Peach yet, and it's clear that despite happening after "a few years" of adventures, Dr. Mario is still very early in the series overall. (and before you ask, the official explanation from Miyamoto himself for how he could become a doctor so fast is because he isn't actually licensed to begin with, he just started chucking the new vitamins he was developing at the viruses and was lucky enough that they turned out to be total miracle cures lol)
According to his Japanese Melee trophy, he had become a Doctor by the age of 26 *at maximum*, yet we know for a fact that by the time of Luigi's Mansion, he's in his thirties *at minimum* due to E. Gadd being 60+ years old and having moved there during his twenties (which happened in PiT when the Bros. were only a year or two old.), so there is plenty of time for Dr. Mario to take place "a few years" after his many adventures began, but still before Luigi's Mansion. If we're as generous as possible and assume that E. Gadd is exactly 60 in Luigi's Mansion and 29 during PiT's past, that's a minimum of 31 years, plus 1 or 2 extra to account for the Baby Bros. existing age at the time, making it fundamentally impossible for Mario and Luigi to be any younger than 32-33 when they re-encountered E. Gadd as adults, and that number can only grow *larger* if E. Gadd was younger than 29 in PiT or older than 60 in LM.
We can actually narrow things down a bit further thanks to some in-character journal/diary entries from Wario, which state that Wario Land 4 takes place on November 19th 2001 (its NA release date), and WarioWare Inc. takes place on March 21st 2003 (its JP release date). Dr. Mario definitely takes place before WL2, which happens before WL4, meaning that the Mario Bros. (and many others in the main cast) were most likely born sometime in the early to mid 70's (possibly even late 60's), and by extension, that's the general timeframe that most of the Yoshi's Island games take place in too.
So the whole Mario timeline is only made possible by chronological shenanigans in an attempt to escape racism allegations on TwittX?
Yeah I'm fine with this. Honestly, Nintendo, make it canon so the screaming stops.
Your editing is really good mate. If the algorythm gives you just one push I am sure your channel will grow insanely fast.
The Mario movie is a different universe from the games. It clearly goes for different lore like making Cranky a king and DK's father instead of a retired old man and DK's grandfather.
You forgot two crucial game series that are also part of the Mario universe! See, the Kong Isle and the Kongs existing implies that Donkey Kong 3 took place, which has multiple bear NPCs, their names all starting with B. There are, like, 15 bears with B names. But anyway, this is only exhibit A; on another side, there is Diddy Kong Racing, which is something VERY important here. Diddy Kong Racing not only includes Diddy, of course, but also Banjo, from the Banjo Kazooie franchise, who is said to be a friend of Diddy, and also Conker is here, said to also be a friend. This means that the entirety of Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Banjo Kazooie: Grunty’s revenge, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, as well as the Conker games ALL HAPPENED in the same world as Mario.
Fuck
Just my own thing that might just be headcannon, but whatever.
-Mario creates his own Toy Company, showing that Mario dives into industry
-Mario + Rabbids shows Mario about universes beyond his own
-Mario invites Link and Isabelle to Mario Kart
-Mario discovers a way to make it save for Inklings to exist underwater, allowing them to be in Mario Kart too
-Mario then goes on to create Super Smash Bros. both in universe and then also as a game, allowing his toy company to expand into a video game company (now where have I heard this before?)
-Link and Samus come to trust Mario and his world, thus they can be found resting in the inn in Mario RPG
-Wario hates Mario and wants to prove he's better than Mario, so he creates his own gaming company, WarioWare, Inc.
-Someone else hates Mario and want to be better than him, so they go out and discover Sonic, thus creating Sega (a Sonic twitter takeover actually suggests that Sonic and his friends work in an office space together and that they are aware of the Sonic video games being created)
-Mario and Sonic eventually set aside their differences, but not Mario and Wario, thus Wario's company continues to try to be in competition with Mario's while Mario and Sonic become chill
This headcanon is actually amazing. If we wanted to try and follow the canon for smash bros, it could also be a kid playing with toys from the Mario toy company assuming they started making toys for other characters, which (if I remember correctly) is how smash 64 starts out, and apparently Sakurai confirmed that smash ultimate is also using toys and not the canon characters (idk about the other smash games tho)
Well, part of the reason Link is found at the inn in Mario RPG is because Zelda kicked him out of the house for a week for flying a korok into hyrule castle.
This is definitely the best Mario timeline to exist..... simply due to the fact that you tried so damn hard to fit EVERYTHING Mario into the timeline without leaving anything out... BETTER then what most others would do trying to fit together the insane timeline of the plumber man who is secretly a psychopath...
F.L.U.D.D has footage from World and 64 in Sunshine so Sunshine cannot happen before those games.
Yes! This video is incredible. Love what you got going and can't wait for more
4:49 EXCELLENT MY FAVORITE SECTION!!!
Really fun video to watch. I've always wanted a video going over this exact subject as I care alot about stuff like this in franchises. By the way, I don't know if you know this but there's an entire Sub-reddit for Mario Lore. They did a really good job on creating a entire Mario Timeline that I think you would enjoy looking at.
Im not the one that made it, and I can't post links on comments, but if you're curious, it's made by a user and youtuber called "Seandwalsh".
I’m sick as balls rn but you’re vids are making my dreadful experience much more enjoyable. Thank you, Mr.Nintendo Video Man. I will return again. (Not a threat)
Without any joke this makes the most sense out of any Mario timeline I’ve seen and I’ve seen some pretty extensive ones
I don't agree with somethings in the timeline, if you can believe it. Mario never said the n-word.
Let me explain: When Mario started a toy company in the series Mario vs. Donkey Kong, he invited Pauline, the political figure, as a guest of honor. So, we can assume they were still on good terms (either that or they made up, but since the conflict with the Kongs was still ongoing, I would go for the latter). This means Mario had a relationship (probably not romantic) with both Pauline and Peach at the same time (he lived a double life, no separation in the timeline needed). But since Pauline wasn't invited to events like tennis or racing contrary to Peach, it makes me think he and Pauline had a falling out, which brings Mario 64 into the picture. You gloss over it in your video, but the game is more important than you think, since it introduces that Mario held homophobic views, illustrated by him using the term 'gay Bowser' as an insult to his enemy. After being informed of that, Pauline detached herself from Mario in the sake of her campaign.
I can't escape Pizza Tower anymore. They even used the music in this video.
In Paper Mario Color Splash, after Bowser gets conscious after an amount of paint gets off of him, he asks if Mario's going to ask him to go karting again. This means that the Mushroom Kingdom and Bowser Kingdom, when not at war, do get along pretty well.
This man may somehow be more sane than everybody else
Finally someone says it
IF MARIO SPORTS AND WARIOWARE IS CANON THEN SO IS MARIO MAKER
this was good for no reason
This man sacrificed his sanity for our entertainment, salute this man 🫡
Various thoughts (I know this video is mostly a joke, but I'm still gonna point out some flaws lol):
- Toadsworth didn't raise the bros. They still lived with their parents. They were visiting Peach for a playdate in Partners in Time. A fun headcanon is that the Shroob invasion is what prompted his family moved to New Donk CIty.
- Donkey Kong isn't a real world gorilla, so it's entirely possible that they just mature extremely quickly and live most of their lives in their prime. We see other kongs age super quickly, such as with DK Jr, who goes from baby to adult in Super Mario Kart. As well as Tiny Kong, who goes from child to adult as well. That doesn't make it not confusing, but at least the confusion has some consistency lol.
- Mario actually wasn't a doctor until post-Super Mario Bros. The game's manual says he's helping out at the Mushroom Kingdom hospital.
- Wario Land is explicitly canon to WarioWare, as there are numerous references to the Land games throughout the Ware series. So that timeline split has to happen later in the timeline, _after_ the Land games.
- Super Mario Kart has to take place at least after Super Mario World, because Yoshi is there. Also Mario's Tennis also features the adult DK Jr, so I'm guessing he survived the car accident and they had to get him into a 2nd, more effective car crash.
- The official explanation for Bowser being in the spin-offs varies from game to game. In Mario Kart, he just wanted to prove he was better than Mario, and this seems to apply for a lot of the other games. In Mario Party, as well as some of the sports, he straight up just crashes the party because he's upset that he wasn't invited. Bowser is petty, so he's willing to put evil aside to compete and show he's the best from time to time.
I thought the running gag of Bowser helping or shifting blame being the reason he was invited to be pretty genius for this video though. Good joke
- Luigi's Mansion features a Power Star, meaning it likely wouldn't take place until after Super Mario 64, but it's also possible Mario just has a power star for some reason. There's nothing saying he couldn't have just owned one.
HOWEVER, Super Mario Sunshine _MUST_ follow Super Mario 64, as when FLUDD meets Mario, he displays video clips from past games, and that includes 64.
- Bowser being allowed to play Tennis because of Dream Team is hilarious. Love the energy of this video.
In Dream Team, Bowser tries to wipe Mario & Luigi off the face of the earth using the dream stone, fails, and then eats the dream stone and tries to kill em that way. So the events of that game giving him a free pass to play sports would be absurd
You definitely seem to get why Nintendo doesn't like to make timelines. The Mario games have loads of connections, continuity, and lore, but they also happen in their own bubbles. There isn't a big overarching plot to link everything together. Things happen just because they happen. It's actually incredibly easy to create a timeline of the mainline games, as each one has obvious things connecting each of them together, especially nowadays where some of the lore gets pretty deep (Captain Toad connects everything maaaaaan, he's the key to everythinggggg).
But ultimately a timeline for where all the sports, parties, etc doesn't matter. They happened at some point in the past, and that's all that matters.
This is also why the Kirby devs outright stated there's no Kirby timeline. When exactly games happened is irrelevant. They happened in the past, and that's all that matters going forward.
Anyway, really fun video 👍
After all of these adventures, Mario settled down and married Rosalina, and they adopted a child named Jeffy.
Genuinely one of the best videos I’ve seen in a while
Super Mario bros 2, then 20000 Mario games, and then super Mario bros 3, while mario is on an arcade stealing pcs... There's a lot of $€X
The Warioland games do NOT take place is sarassaland, sorry. Wario debuted taking over Mario’s private island (super Mario land 2: six golden coins), and the alien final boss from sarassaland returns as a world boss. Wario Land 1 takes place on syrup island, while wario land 2 begins in wario’s own castle he bought from the genie at the end of wario land 1. Wario land 3 takes place inside the music box, which wario finds potentially in the same forest from “wario’s woods” and “wario & mario”. Lastly, wario land 4 is perhaps the first formal hint of diamond city from wario ware series. Regardless, by wario land 4 wario lives in a city, and drives his iconic purple spoiler car out of the city to a pyramid in the jungle. Wario Land shake it is dumb but I think takes place back at syrup island again? And master of disguise 100% doesn’t count as a real wario land game. Wario land virtual boy could be sarassaland, but I think it’s a direct continuation of the adventure in syrup island.
Just popped up in my recommended and I feel like this video is going to make your channel blow up. It is so fun and well made and it's like a really popular topic online. I really hope that this video does super well for you, and you definitely earned my subscription
I hope you’re right
Thought this would be a multi-million subscriber channel. Insane editing and video quality! Keep it up
The montage of you going slowly insane as a heartbeat and Pizza Time played was great
Wait….. isn’t Mario cannon in Pizza Tower?
Coney needs to see this.
It's funny how Cranky Kong exiles Donkey Kong Jr. for beating Donkey Kong, despite being seen beating Donkey Kong in Donkey Kong Country.
I'm pretty sure the WarioWare games take place in the same timeline as the Wario Land games, since they reference each other.
No jumping through hoops are necessary to justify Bowser being in the spinoffs. Bowser is there because he wants to beat Mario, simple as that.
I have to object to the absence of I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater which obviously slots in perfectly between The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker and Sonic Dreams Collection. it just makes sense!
Wait, this has less than 100 views?
Also I know this was kind of a joke but 64 and 3 have to come before sunshine because when fludd scans Mario there's footage of mario 3 and 64 in the corner of the screen.
It's actually Mario 1, Mario World, and Mario 64, not Mario 3, but yeah (and honestly, just the fact those three games are confirmed to be before Sunshine means 3 probably is as well regardless of it not being explicitly shown there).
DK Jr. Actually changes his name during the great banana wars to avoid the draft and ends up hiding out in his ptsd fueled rage out in bear country as seen in Banjo Kazooie
Can't remember the last time I've laughed this much
But SM64 HAS to take place before Sunshine as the events of 64 are shown in sunshine
i love watching this guy lose his mind
Wouldn’t it make more sense that after Mario Party 3 the events of DDR Mario Mix happen? Waluigi did say he “wouldn’t forget this” after all
In Paper Mario after you defeat Bowser there’s a line about how the Mushroom Kingdom is 100% sure Bowser is dead. In Luigi’s Mansion 1 there’s a fortune teller, when it’s revealed Bowser is in the mansion she says “No that’s impossible Bowser was thought to be dead” or something. Earlier in the game one of the portrait ghosts reads a book that says “Paper Mario” on it (or something idr) meaning paper Mario did happen and Mario turned the events into a marketable book that this ghost has for some reason.
At the end of New Super Mario Bros Wii. During the credits you can hear Peach saying what she says in the letter at the beginning of Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 before being interrupted by Bowser. SMG2 released after NSMBW, and this was hinting at SMG2.
DONT GET ME STARTED ON HOW SMASH BROS FITS!
When Luigi’s Mansion was remade for the 3DS Nintendos website had a story about Prof. E. Gadd accidentally created Googi and then sent him back in time to the events of Luigi’s Mansion 1 to help Luigi (which is what we play in the 2 player mode of that remake)
Because of Captain Toad Treasure Tracker Super Mario 3D World, and Super Mario Oddessey can not exist in the same timeline. As depending on what version of Captain Toad Treasure Tracker you play leads into the events of a different Mario game.
Super Mario Galaxy has to take place after FNAF AR as Bouldergeist is secretly Boulder Toy Bonnie.
In the recreation of the Game & Watch game Manhole in one of the Game and Watch Gallery games we see hundreds, no thousands of Donkey Kong Jrs. Donkey Kong Jr. also appears multiple times in the crowd in Mario Kart Double Dash. There’s also a pink Donkey Kong Jr. in Donkey Kong Jr. Math. I have no idea what this means timeline wise but it is important none the less.
I am the lord of the timeline and you scare me
@@PMJ11_Then I accomplished my mission 😎
This is the first time I found a channel which feels inspired by Scott the Woz but doesn’t just try to imitate him
This comment makes me indescribably happy
@@PMJ11_ I’m glad!
Wait the Koopalings appear in Superstar Saga, before Bowser adopts.
He had a working history with them before their adoption?
That is exactly right
Thank you for the entertaining video
3:26 Mario was fighting in the Vietnam war at 14 years old.
Yeah they really needed him
YOU MADMAN! HUMANITY WAS NEVER MEANT TO PLAY GOD!!
Great video
17:10 "New Super Mario Bros. Wii"
The math ain't mathing...
Where does Stanely from Donkey Kong 3 fit in? Also Super Mario 64?
Perfect video xD just the right balance if serious and jokes
So, where does Game And Watch fit in?
underrated af
Wait. How does cooking mama fit into this again?
what about the time mario invited a tamagotchi to kart race
I think that Mario
Looooool respect this was amazing 😂❤
Mama Mia good video 👍
Nice, new vid
Ok now do the sonic timeline
this is so true, nice vid :3
Comedy Gold
Where does Mario wonder fit in?
I’m pretty sure I mentioned it at the end
@@PMJ11_but why is it there?
2:56 again! Where can I get this game!
Mario party 7 happened 2 times?
I honestly can’t believe it took someone so long to comment this, to be fair though I didn’t notice until I was almost done with the video
cool
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HOW HIGH CAN YOU GET?
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I dont like this
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Ew, ai mario
Sorry I was trying it out to see how I and others felt about it. I will say it made the editing process a little nicer since I didn’t have to hunt through Mario art or try to create a very specific type of image for one scene but if people don’t like it I won’t do it.
Reply to this reply if you’d also like to say that you dislike the use of AI art in my videos a community post on the issue will likely come in the next few days as well.
Yes I dislike it, it looks disgusting, can cause fits in people with unreality issues and is based on stolen art from regular artists.just any of the 12 million sad Mario images would of worked fine there@@PMJ11_
@@PMJ11_I’m perfectly fine with it. If it makes work easier/more streamlined, then it’s worth doing
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Please don't use AIgen stuff in your videos, it's very gross.