Just a hint...when installing o-rings...after installed... put something under it and roll the o-ring around what its seating on...so o-ring doesnt wind up with a twist...helpful video...
The Storehouse SAE kit also has O Rings in it that will work for the seal on the piston assembky that seals the end of the barrel. They are not quite as thick as the original ones, but fit and stay in position and seal.
Got my Beeman P17 today (3-27-21) from eBay and I'm so glad I found this video. Yes it is very dirty from the factory, I plan to put a few pellets through it to make sure it functions properly and after watching this video I'll do a partial tear down and clean it up. I also have a Weihrauch Hw40 on its way from eBay and it'll need a cleaning too. I'm hoping the tear down is similar to the P17.
Yep, P3 or HW40 you should be covered. If new, I doubt the German guns would need a cleaning. But used, likely a great idea. The Chinese guns need cleaning on pump head and air tube. Watch for sharp point in back on air intake.. If there, use fine sand paper to remove. Mine didn't have one, smooth.
Philip, thanks! Hope all is well in the UK! You look like a strong man, so you should be fine charging it - closing it is the one Achilles heel of this design, for the less physical shooters. Here are the P-17 attributes: ▶️ Recoiless and accurate ▶️ Silky smooth trigger pull. ▶️Low maintenance ▶️Easy Repair.
Stephen, thanks. But I give credit also to my local gun shop and the great education of Pyramyd Air Airgun Academy. One of my favorite guest writers there is 45bravo, a gunsmith. I link in the written section (toggle arrow). His articles are top notch.
Doesn't seem that complicated. You make breakdowns and installations look easy with great detail. I'll try to remember this vid for future references. Guess I need to break mine down and clean it. Where can you buy the Storehouse brand at? Thanks.
Harbor Freight. 400 piece metric for $8. 200 piece SAE for $6. You will need both. I'll see what rings are on valve later. Going for individual rings could be goose chase.
Ok so... No one else seems to have that problem with the P17 on the internet, but I'm new to this and I don't want to screw this up. I've just received my P17 and firing the first 75 pointed pellets, we had the breach o-ring becoming unhinged a few times. (Each 20 then 10 shots). At first these misfires and replacing the ring weren't too annoying, but past the 76th shot; having to check for the fall of the breach o-ring after EACH SHOT, and having to replace the bastard during each reloading cycle... is frustrating. (As long as we shoot indoor we can find it back, but outdoor would be a lot less fun.) It does shoot okay for everything else though. Maybe the o-rings were past their correct shelf life in there? The lubricant seems otherwise okay. What should I do? Change that o-ring? Lube it? Glue it? Grease it? Some have mentioned that I might somehow have to move back the cannon a little and squeeze it tighter. I'm not sure this wouldn't make more problems as it then might create more friction against the o-ring while pumping. Does really no one else have had their breach o-ring just falling on the line of duty? I also hesitate to Teflon tape the o-ring as this might be a bore to clean later...
That was a very fine comment. You look thoughtful and asked for help well. Ok the youtube link below is your salvation. Or if you prefer search my library for the O ring video. ruclips.net/video/TCbJBoyelD8/видео.html Here, now, I would say to replace the ring. It is 008 SAE. Mine doesn't do that. For lube go with this choice - not white grease. Most don't use grease right and cause operational problems. Go airgun grade silicone. Finger lube the new ring. www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-56204-Silicone-Lubricant/dp/B083NXVGQX
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Thanks, I originally landed on your O-Ring video. (Now added the like for good measure.) For now at least, different sources seems all to point to the same first step, trying to change that O-Ring; and thus that is what I'll try. You are the only one to have thought about linking to the right lubricant to go with it though, so that's a nice touch. (Now added to cart on Amazon.) It does however sound counter-intuitive, in that the lubricant would then help it stay in place instead of slipping out... But then again, it make sense in that it would create a bit less spacing. I'll try and remember to come back and inform you of the result.
Yeah, let me know how it goes. On lube and rings: Please know that the lube is for air seal and WEAR PROTECTION. Folks don't always remember that prolonging the life of the seal is an important goal. You don't have to soak the ring in Super Lube. Just plug it in and lube the FRONT for air seal and WEAR PROTECTION. Other than faulty breech metal, this should work. Wish you success!
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Ok... Well it's been a while, but let's just say I had a lot of stuff to deal with in the meantime. So... I finally received my o-rings and super lube, and found the time to test them, today. I used my fingers to lube the new o-ring and plug it in. For some reason, it seemed as if it was a bit smaller or more fit than the original. First three shots were misfires. As in not only did the o-ring unplug itself from the breech seal, but the pellet didn't even move in the canon. I didn't despaired however, and I did wipe or spread a bit of the lube replacing the ring between each shots. It looked like the lube now made the o-ring glue to the canon when opening the P-17. Fourth shot finally got the pellet going. I immediately noticed that the shot was more accurate, closer to when I first shot the beeman, than when the other problem had arisen. I thought I might have misaligned it since then, but it might have only been a loss of power due to a bad seal? Since fourth shot also had the o-ring dislodged when opening back the pistol, I decided to add a bit of lube, but this time only on the surface of the breach o-ring. Further shots continued to be more accurate than with precedent o-ring, and the o-ring did continue to pop out... BUT NOT ENTIRELY! So I guess that is a step in the right direction. Should I continue to add lube until it works out, or is there anything else I might have been doing wrong?
Well, I just examined my model. The 008 SAE is deeply SUNK back surrounding the air transport hole. You must have metal burr on the breech of your barrel or where your ring fits in. Get some 200 grit sand paper. Feel around your Breech for sharp spots and lightly sand. CHECK EDGE OF BARREL that contacts ring. www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/masterpro-refinishing/masterpro-refinishing-220-400-800-grit-wet-or-dry-sandpaper/mpr6/41800 If you find your ring PROTRUDING out front its hub, take it out and feel with your finger, and then a tooth pick to seek out any burr or defect in the metal. Try to sand it smooth. Thanks for contact. Keep me posted.
Great question. And thanks for asking it in a civilized way! Some get so offended. (1) I DO NOT doubt that the Chinese engineers would use the grease correctly. But too many, especially novice shooters, dont use SOFT touch with grease and put on TOO MUCH. That can cause operational issues, and bad fouling! My P-17 has ONLY been treated with RWS silicone since I got it - AFTER I cleaned it out - and it is at 100% performance. It shoots great and is at FULL power. The liquid lubes also SPRAY on other working parts. A 10 or 30 weight mineral oil like 30 SAE ND or 30 ND Compressor oil would work also. (2) I would be SHOCKED if the ORIGINAL German engineers for the P3 say to use grease. If so, I don't doubt that German or Chinese engineers know how to use grease. Use grease if you like! Silicone does work if it is airgun GRADE - RWS, Crosman, or Super Lube O Ring (5000 CST).
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Thanks for your answer...and for the piston O-Ring seal, the compression chamber and.the back of the piston, did you use the same RWS Silicone oil for all these parts? Thanks
Yes, on the SEALS. I actually removed ALL the OEM seals to replace with Storehouse Nitrile rings from Harbor Freight. They work great, but YOU don't need to do that if you aren't repairing it. I CHOSE to change the rings. A test. The OEM I still kept in storage. I put the RWS lube on the top and bottom of the rings on the valve stem.
Freddy, that is an important question. Would it be better to be in .22? The P-17 has some noise to it. A .22 pellet would quiet it down, but that level of low power would mean VERY slow shot on target and pellet drop. I was asked recently if it angers me that Daisy doesn't have a .22 pump gun. If Daisy brought back a modern 922 - rifled barrel, modern valve, and rubber magazine - yes, I would be excited and would buy it! The Crosman 1322 works well enough. I like 13 grain Plinker pellets. They have a better combo of speed and accuracy. But the power potential of the 1322 FAR exceeds the P-17. But if you are a great gunsmith, try it. A .22 P-17 would be a novelty.
I know this was a long time ago, but do you still lube it with O-ring lube before reassembly? I did not see you do that. Is silicone O-ring lube what you would use? Good video.
Yes, I know the Chinese engineers say white grease, but my gunshop says no to grease. You can use RWS or Super Lube O Ring silicone. Also, 10 or 30 weight ND mineral oil works fine with a squeeze bottle. bottle.www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/pure-guard/pure-guard-compressor-oil-4-quart/pgd0/ac18 www.hobbylobby.com/Art-Supplies/Painting-Supplies/Palettes-Tools/Squeeze-Bottles---5-07-Ounce/p/57415 www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-56204-Silicone-Lubricant/dp/B083NXVGQX My P-17 is working great - NO WHITE GREASE ever used. If you forget to lube a new pumphead ring, you will be fine to lube the tube and shoot. It will get on to the seal.
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Thanks. Just did it today. My gun is not but 2 or so months old and I absolutely love it. Great video and thanks for making it. I going to subscribe.
Thanks....l have a question l just got this gun does the tension screw suppose to be tight or not???? Do l tighten it??? I'm not doing maintenance right now?????
Abel, yes, loose means NO tension to hold part in place. Just don't wrench it,, or strip it, or thread lock it. It doesn't need to be removed for take apart It is also small and could get lost. Snug when the gun is together.
Have you had any issue with pellets not fitting. I just got a new beeman P17, trying to use my crosman hollow point premier pellets. But the pellet is getting stuck, not getting in. Does the P17 work only with select pellets? mine are 177 cal, and did work well with the Umarex stike point!
Vyes, so you know, Crosman has EXTRA HARD pellets. Shooters either love or hate em. My favorite pellet maker is H&N. But I am very fond of RWS wadcutters and select JSB pellets. For the P-17, the best pellets for accuracy (and penetration if you line up pop cans, back to back, filled with water) is JSB RS. Or you can try the more expensive Express cousin. Both JSB types are fast hard hitting little pellets. The RS works well in my Bushmaster, which is medium power, and GREAT in the P-17. The RS price point really good for this elite pellet line. www.pyramydair.com/s/p/JSB_Match_Diabolo_Exact_RS_177_Cal_7_33_Grains_Domed_500ct/718
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 thanks mate, I'll check out the exact and RWS pellets. I am too new, so I can't tell whether I love or hate the crosman premier's :) For now, I noticed some rust like layers on the barrel inside where we load the pellets. Wiped it clean and was able to load the pellet. Now am thinking if the barrel was bad, does it make sense to open and clean the cylinder and piston as well as the valve outlets too.
Thanks again for all the great info! Curios where you found that kit for $8, Best price I could find on eBay was @$16! By the way, I just emailed Shelia for the 880 parts list and prices!
Gerald, Harbor Freight for the metric and SAE kits. $14 for BOTH...totally outfits your P-17. On 880 stick with OEM or Danco SAE nitrile rings. Hope Sheila as nice as Hannah😊
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Hope so too, ha! Don't know what happened to my earlier request? I get Harbor Freight catalogs every once in awhile so I'll have to try them out...thanks! I did buy the Danco Kit. I think I'll finally take your suggestion and just try the pump assembly from one of my new 880's and make sure that fixes it. Since I used 3 in 1 oil back then before I became an air gun fanatic I may have ruined more than the pump assembly. I know the washer disolved and that plastic bushing or whatever broke. At least then if it works it will be easy to just order another pump assembly...should have done it way back when we started our dialogue!
Hey, great story why not to use 3 n 1. Crosman says no way! I almost tried the 20 w oil, but backed off. They mean well, but non-detergent to 3 n 1 doesn't undo the other ADDITIVES in that product that kills your gun. Only ND motor oil from auto store. Non petrol option - Super Lube O ring Silicone.
Paul, here you go and ring video Harbor Freight Storehouse SAE and Metric rings are perfect for that Chinese pistol. Great price. Remember to get EXACT sizes. Close can cause ring mobility - they move around and come loose. 005 SAE valve 008 Metric valve 116 Metric pump head 008 SAE breech ruclips.net/video/TCbJBoyelD8/видео.html
Hi, Katy. Yes, mine was also covered in grime. The Chinese producers use white grease and the factory grime was bad. I cleaned it off wirh the thick towels shown in video. The RWS Silicone has worked great. The guns outside RWS and HW (German) tend to come filthy. It is worth time to clean it.
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Very helpful. Replaced o ring in my P17 with ease. Thank you so much !!
Just a hint...when installing o-rings...after installed... put something under it and roll the o-ring around what its seating on...so o-ring doesnt wind up with a twist...helpful video...
The Storehouse SAE kit also has O Rings in it that will work for the seal on the piston assembky that seals the end of the barrel. They are not quite as thick as the original ones, but fit and stay in position and seal.
Great vid...
Don't forget to pop out the front pin on the trigger if you want to control the safety...
Got my Beeman P17 today (3-27-21) from eBay and I'm so glad I found this video. Yes it is very dirty from the factory, I plan to put a few pellets through it to make sure it functions properly and after watching this video I'll do a partial tear down and clean it up. I also have a Weihrauch Hw40 on its way from eBay and it'll need a cleaning too. I'm hoping the tear down is similar to the P17.
Yep, P3 or HW40 you should be covered. If new, I doubt the German guns would need a cleaning. But used, likely a great idea.
The Chinese guns need cleaning on pump head and air tube. Watch for sharp point in back on air intake.. If there, use fine sand paper to remove.
Mine didn't have one, smooth.
THERE MUST BE A WAY TO MOD THE BEEMAN P17 TO COPY THE WEIHRAUCH HW40 RIGHT ?
Thank You for fine tutorial on P17 maintenance. I did mine and it shoots fine now Surprise!
Great tutorial which will help me loads as I bought 1 this week. So impressed I’m buying another tomorrow…..
Thanks for all the info. 👍👀🇬🇧
Philip, thanks!
Hope all is well in the UK! You look like a strong man, so you should be fine charging it - closing it is the one Achilles heel of this design, for the less physical shooters.
Here are the P-17 attributes:
▶️ Recoiless and accurate
▶️ Silky smooth trigger pull.
▶️Low maintenance
▶️Easy Repair.
Great video and good job.💯 Blessings 🙏
Thank you so much for making this tutorial! Very helpful.
Stephen, thanks. But I give credit also to my local gun shop and the great education of Pyramyd Air Airgun Academy.
One of my favorite guest writers there is 45bravo, a gunsmith. I link in the written section (toggle arrow). His articles are top notch.
Great Video. I just ordered a P17 from Amazon. Waiting for it to get here. I will do a cleanup on it before firing it.
I know im late but i used this video to do my p17 in 2019 thanks
Doesn't seem that complicated. You make breakdowns and installations look easy with great detail. I'll try to remember this vid for future references. Guess I need to break mine down and clean it. Where can you buy the Storehouse brand at? Thanks.
Harbor Freight. 400 piece metric for $8. 200 piece SAE for $6. You will need both. I'll see what rings are on valve later.
Going for individual rings could be goose chase.
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 maybe the Davco kit could be helpful on the valve and breech seal?
Nope. Too big in Danco kit. That kit best for 880. The Storehouse SAE has tiny ring for P-17. Will check valve rings soon.
Ok so... No one else seems to have that problem with the P17 on the internet, but I'm new to this and I don't want to screw this up. I've just received my P17 and firing the first 75 pointed pellets, we had the breach o-ring becoming unhinged a few times. (Each 20 then 10 shots). At first these misfires and replacing the ring weren't too annoying, but past the 76th shot; having to check for the fall of the breach o-ring after EACH SHOT, and having to replace the bastard during each reloading cycle... is frustrating. (As long as we shoot indoor we can find it back, but outdoor would be a lot less fun.)
It does shoot okay for everything else though.
Maybe the o-rings were past their correct shelf life in there? The lubricant seems otherwise okay. What should I do? Change that o-ring? Lube it? Glue it? Grease it? Some have mentioned that I might somehow have to move back the cannon a little and squeeze it tighter. I'm not sure this wouldn't make more problems as it then might create more friction against the o-ring while pumping. Does really no one else have had their breach o-ring just falling on the line of duty? I also hesitate to Teflon tape the o-ring as this might be a bore to clean later...
That was a very fine comment. You look thoughtful and asked for help well.
Ok the youtube link below is your salvation. Or if you prefer search my library for the O ring video.
ruclips.net/video/TCbJBoyelD8/видео.html
Here, now, I would say to replace the ring. It is 008 SAE. Mine doesn't do that.
For lube go with this choice - not white grease. Most don't use grease right and cause operational problems. Go airgun grade silicone. Finger lube the new ring.
www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-56204-Silicone-Lubricant/dp/B083NXVGQX
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Thanks, I originally landed on your O-Ring video. (Now added the like for good measure.)
For now at least, different sources seems all to point to the same first step, trying to change that O-Ring; and thus that is what I'll try. You are the only one to have thought about linking to the right lubricant to go with it though, so that's a nice touch. (Now added to cart on Amazon.)
It does however sound counter-intuitive, in that the lubricant would then help it stay in place instead of slipping out... But then again, it make sense in that it would create a bit less spacing.
I'll try and remember to come back and inform you of the result.
Yeah, let me know how it goes.
On lube and rings:
Please know that the lube is for air seal and WEAR PROTECTION. Folks don't always remember that prolonging the life of the seal is an important goal.
You don't have to soak the ring in Super Lube. Just plug it in and lube the FRONT for air seal and WEAR PROTECTION. Other than faulty breech metal, this should work.
Wish you success!
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Ok... Well it's been a while, but let's just say I had a lot of stuff to deal with in the meantime. So... I finally received my o-rings and super lube, and found the time to test them, today.
I used my fingers to lube the new o-ring and plug it in. For some reason, it seemed as if it was a bit smaller or more fit than the original. First three shots were misfires. As in not only did the o-ring unplug itself from the breech seal, but the pellet didn't even move in the canon. I didn't despaired however, and I did wipe or spread a bit of the lube replacing the ring between each shots. It looked like the lube now made the o-ring glue to the canon when opening the P-17.
Fourth shot finally got the pellet going. I immediately noticed that the shot was more accurate, closer to when I first shot the beeman, than when the other problem had arisen. I thought I might have misaligned it since then, but it might have only been a loss of power due to a bad seal?
Since fourth shot also had the o-ring dislodged when opening back the pistol, I decided to add a bit of lube, but this time only on the surface of the breach o-ring. Further shots continued to be more accurate than with precedent o-ring, and the o-ring did continue to pop out... BUT NOT ENTIRELY! So I guess that is a step in the right direction.
Should I continue to add lube until it works out, or is there anything else I might have been doing wrong?
Well, I just examined my model. The 008 SAE is deeply SUNK back surrounding the air transport hole.
You must have metal burr on the breech of your barrel or where your ring fits in.
Get some 200 grit sand paper. Feel around your Breech for sharp spots and lightly sand.
CHECK EDGE OF BARREL that contacts ring.
www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/masterpro-refinishing/masterpro-refinishing-220-400-800-grit-wet-or-dry-sandpaper/mpr6/41800
If you find your ring PROTRUDING out front its hub, take it out and feel with your finger, and then a tooth pick to seek out any burr or defect in the metal. Try to sand it smooth.
Thanks for contact. Keep me posted.
A little late for this video but why you doesn't put any White lithium grease on the back piston like the Beeman manual say?
Great question. And thanks for asking it in a civilized way! Some get so offended.
(1) I DO NOT doubt that the Chinese engineers would use the grease correctly. But too many, especially novice shooters, dont use SOFT touch with grease and put on TOO MUCH. That can cause operational issues, and bad fouling!
My P-17 has ONLY been treated with RWS silicone since I got it - AFTER I cleaned it out - and it is at 100% performance.
It shoots great and is at FULL power. The liquid lubes also SPRAY on other working parts. A 10 or 30 weight mineral oil like 30 SAE ND or 30 ND Compressor oil would work also.
(2) I would be SHOCKED if the ORIGINAL German engineers for the P3 say to use grease. If so, I don't doubt that German or Chinese engineers know how to use grease. Use grease if you like! Silicone does work if it is airgun GRADE - RWS, Crosman, or Super Lube O Ring (5000 CST).
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Thanks for your answer...and for the piston O-Ring seal, the compression chamber and.the back of the piston, did you use the same RWS Silicone oil for all these parts? Thanks
Yes, on the SEALS. I actually removed ALL the OEM seals to replace with Storehouse Nitrile rings from Harbor Freight.
They work great, but YOU don't need to do that if you aren't repairing it.
I CHOSE to change the rings. A test. The OEM I still kept in storage.
I put the RWS lube on the top and bottom of the rings on the valve stem.
Once u opened it. How easy do you think it would be to swap out the barrel to a .22
Freddy, that is an important question.
Would it be better to be in .22? The P-17 has some noise to it. A .22 pellet would quiet it down, but that level of low power would mean VERY slow shot on target and pellet drop.
I was asked recently if it angers me that Daisy doesn't have a .22 pump gun. If Daisy brought back a modern 922 - rifled barrel, modern valve, and rubber magazine - yes, I would be excited and would buy it!
The Crosman 1322 works well enough. I like 13 grain Plinker pellets. They have a better combo of speed and accuracy.
But the power potential of the 1322 FAR exceeds the P-17. But if you are a great gunsmith, try it. A .22 P-17 would be a novelty.
What is the O ring size in mm for your EU viewers. Merci
This Ring set up has you covered and includes picks.
www.amazon.com/QLOUNI-Universal-Assortment-Plumbing-Automotive/dp/B07R154Q38
I know this was a long time ago, but do you still lube it with O-ring lube before reassembly? I did not see you do that. Is silicone O-ring lube what you would use? Good video.
Yes, I know the Chinese engineers say white grease, but my gunshop says no to grease.
You can use RWS or Super Lube O Ring silicone.
Also, 10 or 30 weight ND mineral oil works fine with a squeeze bottle.
bottle.www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/pure-guard/pure-guard-compressor-oil-4-quart/pgd0/ac18
www.hobbylobby.com/Art-Supplies/Painting-Supplies/Palettes-Tools/Squeeze-Bottles---5-07-Ounce/p/57415
www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-56204-Silicone-Lubricant/dp/B083NXVGQX
My P-17 is working great - NO WHITE GREASE ever used. If you forget to lube a new pumphead ring, you will be fine to lube the tube and shoot. It will get on to the seal.
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Thanks. Just did it today. My gun is not but 2 or so months old and I absolutely love it. Great video and thanks for making it. I going to subscribe.
Thanks for doing this video.
Glad it was helpful!
can you diesel the pellets to increase fps like you would in a break barrel rifle?
Nope , it's not like break barrel. No pop. But you could lube pellet.
Thanks....l have a question l just got this gun does the tension screw suppose to be tight or not???? Do l tighten it??? I'm not doing maintenance right now?????
Abel, yes, loose means NO tension to hold part in place. Just don't wrench it,, or strip it, or thread lock it.
It doesn't need to be removed for take apart It is also small and could get lost. Snug when the gun is together.
Does any of this increase the power or velocity?
BigDawg, the video helps keep the gun shooting AT ALL if the o ring is worn out. Lubing helps keep the velocity CONSISTENT.
Have you had any issue with pellets not fitting. I just got a new beeman P17, trying to use my crosman hollow point premier pellets. But the pellet is getting stuck, not getting in. Does the P17 work only with select pellets? mine are 177 cal, and did work well with the Umarex stike point!
Vyes, so you know, Crosman has EXTRA HARD pellets. Shooters either love or hate em. My favorite pellet maker is H&N. But I am very fond of RWS wadcutters and select JSB pellets.
For the P-17, the best pellets for accuracy (and penetration if you line up pop cans, back to back, filled with water) is JSB RS. Or you can try the more expensive Express cousin.
Both JSB types are fast hard hitting little pellets. The RS works well in my Bushmaster, which is medium power, and GREAT in the P-17. The RS price point really good for this elite pellet line.
www.pyramydair.com/s/p/JSB_Match_Diabolo_Exact_RS_177_Cal_7_33_Grains_Domed_500ct/718
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 thanks mate, I'll check out the exact and RWS pellets.
I am too new, so I can't tell whether I love or hate the crosman premier's :)
For now, I noticed some rust like layers on the barrel inside where we load the pellets. Wiped it clean and was able to load the pellet.
Now am thinking if the barrel was bad, does it make sense to open and clean the cylinder and piston as well as the valve outlets too.
Guten morgen , you should try Geco Diabolo und RWS Hobby. Zey ar ze bestest fur dise gun.
Thanks again for all the great info! Curios where you found that kit for $8, Best price I could find on eBay was @$16! By the way, I just emailed Shelia for the 880 parts list and prices!
Gerald, Harbor Freight for the metric and SAE kits. $14 for BOTH...totally outfits your P-17. On 880 stick with OEM or Danco SAE nitrile rings.
Hope Sheila as nice as Hannah😊
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Hope so too, ha! Don't know what happened to my earlier request? I get Harbor Freight catalogs every once in awhile so I'll have to try them out...thanks! I did buy the Danco Kit. I think I'll finally take your suggestion and just try the pump assembly from one of my new 880's and make sure that fixes it. Since I used 3 in 1 oil back then before I became an air gun fanatic I may have ruined more than the pump assembly. I know the washer disolved and that plastic bushing or whatever broke. At least then if it works it will be easy to just order another pump assembly...should have done it way back when we started our dialogue!
@@daisy880fanaticfixit9 Just got a non delivery message to Shelia! I must be jinxed with them!
Hey, great story why not to use 3 n 1. Crosman says no way! I almost tried the 20 w oil, but backed off. They mean well, but non-detergent to 3 n 1 doesn't undo the other ADDITIVES in that product that kills your gun.
Only ND motor oil from auto store. Non petrol option - Super Lube O ring Silicone.
Gerald, use Hannah link. It works and make sure you have no MAIL blockers on your PC.
What sizes are the seals please
Paul, here you go and ring video
Harbor Freight Storehouse SAE and Metric rings are perfect for that Chinese pistol. Great price.
Remember to get EXACT sizes. Close can cause ring mobility - they move around and come loose.
005 SAE valve
008 Metric valve
116 Metric pump head
008 SAE breech
ruclips.net/video/TCbJBoyelD8/видео.html
I got my P17 pistol yesterday and mine was dirty not clean.
Hi, Katy. Yes, mine was also covered in grime. The Chinese producers use white grease and the factory grime was bad.
I cleaned it off wirh the thick towels shown in video. The RWS Silicone has worked great.
The guns outside RWS and HW (German) tend to come filthy. It is worth time to clean it.
Thanks!