Discussing the Landscape After the Battle in the South Caucasus
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- CivilNet’s political commentator Eric Hacopian discusses the new geopolitical and economic realities in the South Caucasus after the Second Karabakh War with Georgi Derluguian, historical sociologist and professor at the New York University at Abu Dhabi.
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I like listening to these two wisemen all the way from Panama
They did not allow Armenians to get Artsakh in the 90’s either and through sheer will power we made it happen.
Yoiur guest is super to listen to
That was a very interesting analysis. Thanks a lot from Greece
Great interview!! keep up the great work.
So it sounds like the professor is basically just saying Armenia needs to be integrated into the Russian Federation as a constituent republic.
Weird right? He is a cossack after all
@@rafikarnik it should have been the case anyways.
very informative
We are unfortunately a lot closer to becoming part of Russian Federation than before. How do you imagine having a prosperous economy, being like Singapore in this situation? Show me one prosperous region (autonomous or not) in Russia or in the zone of Russia's geopolitical interests that benefited from Russia's dominance.
We are fortunate not unfortunate would you prefer turkey?
@@ashog1426 having no choice is one thing but calling the choice between turks and white turks fortunate, is a typical slave mentality. Can a lamb that is going to be sacrificed tomorrow be fortunate? Have we not learned anything from our history?
And why do we have to prefer one murderer over another one? We think of ourselves as a smart nation but learn nothing and make stupid choices. We have to make ourselves more valuable, more interesting for other more civilized nations to be interested in partnering with us.
@@cosmicguy01 would you like to explain the benefits of choosing someone who wants to wipe you off the face of the earth and has tried that in the past? Otherwise in my opinion only an azeriturk with a fake Armenian profile would make such a statement.
I appreciate the great intellectual discussions. Keep doing what you guys are doing!
Some interesting thoughts but by no means the approach or in the interest of hayastan. The professor said we should give up on the genocide .. that speaks volumes..
The host referred to Syunik and Zangezur..speaks volumes
With all due respect, I assume if ARMENIA wants to come out of this crisis, they must look at the situation with all neighbours perspectives rather than theirs. Because Armenian interests involve more involvement in Khankendi and that will drag Armenia down in all charts further more.
@@jamilemin15 it's Stepanakert by the way.
@@jamilemin15 what makes you think it wont blow up in ur face if u keep pushing ur luck?
@@ashog1426 I wanna see the effort:)
@Owl Mirrior how is leaving Lachin )
Did not discuss important issues such as how Russia will try to influence Armenian politics, will it try to prevent Armenia from having a democracy etc.
Russia is part of Red Team aka China, North Korea, Pakistan, etc., anti-democratic, authoritarian, and loves to be friends with rogue regimes
I think as long as their business interests in Armenia are not "in danger", Russia doesn't really care how democratic or undemocratic Armenian internal politics is.
Можно русский перевод? Пожалуйста 😊
You forgot Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus in 1974.
Search Google, how manly Turks were killed in Nicosia before Turks army came to safe Turkish population in Cyprus
Turkey is on cyprus as a guarantor state according to London and Zurich aggrements signed in 1959.
@@tahirmirza41 You tell us! How many?
@@user-ny2sn4dd2q 700 Turkish residents of northern Nicosia, among them women and children, were taken hostage. The violence resulted in the death of 364 Turkish and 174 Greek Cypriots, destruction of 109 Turkish Cypriot or mixed villages and displacement of 25,000-30,000 Turkish Cypriots. From Wikipedia
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I would like an explanation from Civilnet as to why Eric Hacopian referred to the Armenian province of Syunik By the Azeri term Zangezur
That is not correct, Zangezur is not the Azeri term. Zangezur is the name of the mountain range that spans through Syunik Province and Nakhijevan. One possible origin is it comes from the Armenian "Zanga-dzor". I prefer the correct term Syunik as well, but the older generation like Mr. Hacopian and my own father use them interchangeably.
@@HE-uq1jwhow casual of you. your father isn't hosting an interview. Eric is not native to Armenia so why wouldn't he refer to it a Syunik even for the sake of being consistent with OUR map. Idiot
@@HE-uq1jw zangezeur doesnt seem like a turkish word
Turkish companies will get top dips for reconstruction work . That's economic tribute in the simplest terms .
Господа мы тоже хотим! Нам инглиш учить поздно; приятных людей не понять- обидно да.....
Сегодня я привез в Шушу бюсты наших выдающихся личностей - Хуршудбану Натаван, Узеира Гаджибекова и Бюльбюля, которые на протяжении порядка 30 лет хранились во дворе Музея искусств в Баку. В этом месте находился Центр культуры Шуши, Дом культуры, и именно здесь стояли бюсты Узеир бека, Бюльбюля. Ненавистный враг разрушил Дом культуры в Шуше и изрешетил бюсты наших выдающихся личностей.
В церемонии открытия бюста Хуршудбану Натаван летом 1982 года Гейдар Алиев принимал личное участие. И я в то время был здесь с отцом. После того как армяне надругались над бюстами наших выдающихся личностей, они отвезли их в Армению, чтобы переплавить, а затем продать.
Об этом заявил Президент Азербайджана Ильхам Алиев во время поездки в освобожденный от оккупации город Шушу.
"Это каким низким человеком надо быть, чтобы изрешетить мемориальные бюсты исторических личностей, надругаться над ними, а затем увезти, чтобы переплавить их", - сказал он.
Глава государства напомнил, что тогда Полад Бюльбюльоглу узнал об этом и обратился к общенациональному лидеру Гейдару Алиеву.
"Были приняты меры, в результате они были выкуплены у армян. И я должен открыто сказать о том, что они были выкуплены за деньги. Армяне продали их. Как они обычно делали на протяжении всей своей жизни. Мы купили эти бюсты за деньги. А затем перевезли их и разместили во дворе Музея искусств", - сказал он.
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I was so eager to listen in, but as soon as your guest started to sugar coat the Russian government I just stopped and posted this comment for other readers.
C’mon it’s disgusting how these people try to manipulate the young generation, take your Russia elsewhere.
Civilnet you’re much better than this.
Everyone knows Russia is not the rosiest place. But if Armenia does not turn to Russia who will they turn too?
When and how was he sugar coating Russia? He stated Russia has interests in the region, which is I think more than obvious. And now Russia has even more influence over Armenia, which is a new reality no matter if we like it or not
Here 2:37
Does any Armenian believe, that Russia did not see this crisis coming? It’s a naked joke!
Eric Hacopian called Syunik Zangezur? Why?
@@rafikarnik who cares? Armenians even call it zangezur
You are so used to being under Russian dominance that you can not shake it off to think freely.
Haha so true. EU is a bunch of defeated empires. Portugal. Spain. France. Germany. Italy. All now barely hanging on.
N. Pashynian did enough for Armenia. Help him to build Armenia like Israel. We support Him. He is the right person for PM post.
He has no strategy. No diplomacy. No real vision. He needs to go.
@@xavierlaflamme8773 Yes, Pashinyan was the leader during the war we lost. But if he is removed now, we will lose the war on corruption too.
@@andy2231 we need someone better. Settling for pashinyan, who really is guilty for creating the war situation and not managing it, is not the answer. We need to prioritize what is important right now. And the safety of armenia is number 1.
Solo Traveller , keep traveling and move on! Mr. Pashinyan will be taken care of by more knowledgeable and intelligent people than you are.
He is very weak and frequently disjointed with his communication..
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