Sig Sauer M18 First Shots And Impressions

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  • Опубликовано: 17 апр 2020
  • The Sig M18 as been adopted by the U.S. Military but how good is it really?
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  • @seyphrsystems7392
    @seyphrsystems7392 2 года назад +42

    My experience has been has been much different. Great ergonomics, pretty good trigger, and dead on accurate. I actually shot a butterfly off of my target at 10 yards. And I have never previously handled the P320 series.
    500+ rounds no malfunctions

    • @mrgunplug1034
      @mrgunplug1034 Год назад

      mine kept jamming yesterday for sum reason should i oil it fresh out the box?

    • @SmartphoneGenius
      @SmartphoneGenius Год назад +3

      Same here. No failures through hundreds of rounds and sights are right on the money. Only thing I find objectionable is that it's a little snappy. I think it's the high bore axis.

    • @SmartphoneGenius
      @SmartphoneGenius Год назад +3

      @@mrgunplug1034 You could clean and oil it but also try different ammo. Try different brands and switch between hollow point and round nose. Also, take it apart and make certain everything's put together correctly like the guide rod and spring.

  • @SavageTactical
    @SavageTactical 4 года назад +107

    I know from personal experience, nothing sucks more than a gun that doesn’t work very well.

    • @jaronturner23
      @jaronturner23 4 года назад +17

      Thats what makes this perfect for the military as a veteran half the weapons we use have a lot of issues as if its a requirement for the manufacturer when the Military puts out a bid lol

  • @airmanfoushee
    @airmanfoushee 4 года назад +10

    I have had mine now for a month, and I've not had a single issue, love the sig m18

  • @JMDickeyArts
    @JMDickeyArts 4 года назад +37

    This is a sample size of one. When my work switched to this firearm we had to go to the range. When we go to the range, it’s a large event. Hundreds of shooters with hundreds of Sig M18 pistols. The problems he is having does not reflect the weapons performance. After spending the day with it I purchased one for myself. I get that this video is for recreational shooters but please don’t take his experience as the norm for this pistol. Please go out and shoot one before you write it off.

    • @sammcgee9456
      @sammcgee9456 4 года назад +10

      All these anti sig douche bags just like to call them garbage even though they’ve never shot them

    • @raylandraybels9462
      @raylandraybels9462 4 года назад

      Sam Mcgee what if I shot one and still didn't like it?

    • @richyromero2201
      @richyromero2201 4 года назад +4

      @@raylandraybels9462 just like I've shot glocks and still don't like either. No fan boy can ever accept

    • @ricklucas9424
      @ricklucas9424 4 года назад +7

      I’m at a round count of 500 with no malfunctions or issues.

    • @sammcgee9456
      @sammcgee9456 4 года назад +3

      Rayland Raybels at least you shot it and then gave an opinion instead of giving an opinion without ever shooting it.

  • @BOKCQueKang
    @BOKCQueKang 4 года назад

    The reviews on this page have served me right since I started following a short while ago. Thank you for this!

  • @This_Account
    @This_Account 4 года назад +189

    Officer: "DROP YOUR WEAPON!!!"
    Me: "But officer, It's a Sig!"
    Officer: "WHAT EVER YOU DO, DO NOT DROP THAT WEAPON!!!"

  • @KoachOfGaal
    @KoachOfGaal 4 года назад +64

    I don’t understand why Sig is still using that grip module. The X-series of grip modules are so much more comfortable to shoot as well as getting your hand higher up for a lower bore axis.

    • @andrewhenderson4972
      @andrewhenderson4972 4 года назад +9

      My first P320 was an X Carry. Compared to the standard model the only thing I liked better about the module was the magwell, and to be honest I hated the trigger. The little tab or tail on the bottom of the flat trigger was always extremely uncomfortable by the 2-300 round point.

    • @neurotoksyn
      @neurotoksyn 4 года назад +11

      it's what the military contracted for, it's extremely difficult to change specs once the ink is dry on a military contract.

    • @Genesis23OPB
      @Genesis23OPB 4 года назад +5

      meh, bore axis is not that much of an issue with a high enough round count.

    • @Croak1
      @Croak1 4 года назад +3

      Because that's what the military contract specified. Same reason quad rails are still on the M4, etc.

    • @SaccStomper
      @SaccStomper 3 года назад +1

      I got a Wilson Combat on mine. Much better module

  • @gary20728
    @gary20728 4 года назад +1

    Damn. I hoped for a flawless review. Thank you and your wife for taking the time to make a great informative and entertaining review.

  • @mfroreich4358
    @mfroreich4358 4 года назад +7

    I have this with a romeo1 pro on it and a straight trigger, helps a ton. Magtech has been the only ammo I run through my 320s with no failures.

  • @torysoper
    @torysoper 4 года назад +11

    My p320 out of box had 2 failures with in 200 rounds. We deducted that is was more a magazine issue. Spring was super tight... Still using that magazine and I am now at 4000 rounds no more failures...

    • @BIGALGUNFUN
      @BIGALGUNFUN 4 года назад +1

      I bought my p320c 45acp used which is probably why it's run so well. The 9 round capacity sucks but afterall it is a compact carry that I don't even carry lol. I prefer my p365xl 9mm with the 15 rounder and the 12 rounder as backup. Definitely the best CCW I've ever had, also a fun range gun 🤙😊

    • @aaronsbraga
      @aaronsbraga 4 года назад +1

      Deduced

    • @texdawg7715
      @texdawg7715 4 года назад

      Im hoping that the gun just has to be broken in, but for $600 I would expect the M18 to perform better out of the box. I'm holding on to hope that the failures I had with mine were ammo related...hope I'm right, but time will tell.

  • @aortiz0714
    @aortiz0714 4 года назад +101

    It seems we're in an age where you don't need to spend a whole ton of money to get a pistol thats reliable and will perform when you need it to

    • @kylesonsalla7620
      @kylesonsalla7620 4 года назад +11

      And the crazy thing is the Taurus G2C/G3 for $200-2500 will run or surpass many of the more expensive guns, whilst being feature packed. They might not be the most refined, but they run.

    • @Sam1628
      @Sam1628 4 года назад +4

      Agreed I’ve been very impressed with my G2C

    • @Stubones999
      @Stubones999 4 года назад +5

      @@kylesonsalla7620 I love my G2C better than my M&P guns...

    • @musicman1eanda
      @musicman1eanda 4 года назад +10

      Got my MP 2.0 Compact for $375. Not a single malfunction in over 12k rounds:)

    • @fmachine86
      @fmachine86 4 года назад +4

      @@kylesonsalla7620 G2C has replaced my HK VP9 as my EDC. It's an outstanding gun. I'm thinking about getting a G3 next just for fun.

  • @Bigcountry1776
    @Bigcountry1776 4 года назад +1

    Just recently purchased my sig sauer P320 M18 and absolutely love that pistol. Stacks a 21 round mag out to 25 yards and 3.5 to 4 inch group out at 50 yards. I had no accuracy issues out of the box what so ever with this pistol, and had no functioning issue with 4 different manufacturers of ammo.

  • @PlhPatrick
    @PlhPatrick 4 года назад +18

    On the multitude of M18s we have had come through and be used for LTC or just at the range, most had to be shot 500 times to wear that tight spring into form. Bc of the length of time and amount of rounds (demanded by military) the spring comes a bit tight (this is exacerbated by being a shorter spring, than m17, full size, or X5 full. They work well once broken in. We have only seen 1 other p320 that had its sights off like that (and were non adj..... sometimes people mess with those adj sights before shooting or the store does (on adj sight variations) to show how much they can be altered. That being said, this is a combat gun, meant to have combat aim (shows more on short sight radius. Combat aim is different from 3 gun, or target aim guns in that you hold just under on target aim set ups vs combat aim set ups , where covering the object with front sight is the philosophy. Great vids, love the content, keep them coming. You make our jobs easier, when people can come in with a certain amount of info.

  • @adammontoya8329
    @adammontoya8329 4 года назад +197

    He seemed progressively more bummed as the video went on, sad day.

    • @HonestOutlawReviews
      @HonestOutlawReviews  4 года назад +60

      lol I was

    • @azraell33
      @azraell33 4 года назад +10

      I was too. I have the m17 and when I saw that one I initially wished I had gotten it. Then he started shooting it. I'll just keep my M17

    • @oneknife4121
      @oneknife4121 4 года назад +7

      Good to see him keeping it real. Was thinking of picking this one is since the price is descent. I’ll save my money.

    • @soevasive
      @soevasive 4 года назад +4

      @@oneknife4121 he could say he was excited and you'd say im.going to buy one. Fools so influenced by someone else

    • @reachblowsdick7222
      @reachblowsdick7222 3 года назад +1

      @@soevasive - If you were going to buy a car you like, then a car tester shows that car is unreliable and could explode along with dozens of documented reports on that being true. Could you honestly say you'd still buy that car just to not be influenced by someone else? If so, there's only one fool in that story.

  • @jbeef4306
    @jbeef4306 4 года назад +9

    For all the money I have spent because of these videos you finally save me some bucks. Way to keep it honest.

  • @GunnerM60
    @GunnerM60 4 года назад +1

    I never thought of my keeping my thumb above the safety on Taurus G2C. Disengaging it on the draw so you're ready to shoot immediately totally makes sense! Thxs for that tip!

  • @thespankdmonkey
    @thespankdmonkey 4 года назад

    My carry progression went from an old (excellent condition) Mauser HSC to a 3.5 inch 357 S&W tank to an excellent Sig 2022 in 9. I carried the snot out of that SIG. Just broke my striker fired cherry recently on the Berreta APX Centurion that I now appendix carry. Great pistol! I was excited to see this SIG until it became a jam o matic and had such poor sight issues. Hope it was just this sample. Thanks for the video!

  • @ThePooler43
    @ThePooler43 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for this review I’ve had the same problems with this gun out of box glad to know I’m not alone 💯🤘🏻

  • @jtlegionnaire6310
    @jtlegionnaire6310 4 года назад +5

    Just picked up my first stainless Taurus G3, thanks in part to your review Outlaw! Appreciate the content.

    • @dilldowschwagginz2674
      @dilldowschwagginz2674 4 года назад +2

      The G series are good guns. I've had many (3 G2's and now a G3). The only problems I experienced after many thousands of rounds was 2 of them started to not hold open when empty. Turned out the the catch itself was made of not great metal and eroded over time. I was able to correct it with new parts but it is what it is. My very first G2 (bought in 2016) had a shit barrel right out of the box. Sent fliers no matter what ammo I used. So far the G3 has had no issues but I haven't shot it a ton with the Chinavirus shit going on and I carry a CZ P10c

    • @jtlegionnaire6310
      @jtlegionnaire6310 4 года назад +1

      @@dilldowschwagginz2674 I get that. It's my goal to get my wife a G 43x and some compact/full size 9mm for me that's better. But she and I are in college right now so it's all we can afford.

    • @dilldowschwagginz2674
      @dilldowschwagginz2674 4 года назад +1

      @@jtlegionnaire6310 I was actually trying to make the case that the G3 will be a great gun. Sorry, I must have gotten a little side tracked in my first post but the fact remains - the G series is a very solid firearm and I the the G3 in particular is the best. I've had one since they came out and it has ran flawlessly.

  • @thinktwice8860
    @thinktwice8860 4 года назад +25

    Generally, most quality issues are production issues. You can’t run a factory that makes a lot of defects and expect QA, or QC yo catch everything. You have to work on it from both ends. Make the processes produce statistically fewer defects, and make sure you have no weaknesses in your inspection methods. Just my opinion.

    • @7pines77
      @7pines77 4 года назад +2

      It’s definitely production issues, but that means that the guys machining the parts are pushing parts through that are out, and QA is letting them..Companies like the one I work for have a very strict QA and very tight tolerances on the parts we run

  • @Justagunguy
    @Justagunguy 4 года назад

    Have the pellet version of the m17 for backyard plinking, and had plans on buying the real 9mm version but was told by everyone not too. Thank you for confirming that they were right. Bought a CZ shadow 2 and haven’t looked back. 🤙🏼

  • @colleenkinsley-greenlaw7922
    @colleenkinsley-greenlaw7922 3 года назад

    Thanks for review ...was just thinking of buying as my 1st but I will keep looking!

  • @findingnemo696
    @findingnemo696 4 года назад

    Got my m18 yesterday. I love this gun.... Sig makes good guns big 👍 up to them

  • @ralphlillich8310
    @ralphlillich8310 4 года назад +36

    I have an m18. I bought it maybe two months ago. No failures and it shoots dead on. I am a 1911 man so I dont carry it but it's not bad

    • @MRT9390
      @MRT9390 4 года назад +5

      Same had my m18 for about 4 months def my edc . Ive shot about 2k rounds through it so far, and only had 1 misfire, and it was in the first 100 round since then runs like a champ . Sight take some time to get use to but its dead on . Seems like operator error for you to be shooting low .

    • @richyromero2201
      @richyromero2201 4 года назад +3

      Just got my m18 a couple days ago. My new EDC, first range session put a little over 400 rounds through it and it ran perfectly, no malfunctions what so ever, with 3 different range ammo and some of my carry ammo (to test my defensive ammo), dead on sites

    • @richyromero2201
      @richyromero2201 4 года назад +1

      @casey escobar I don't believe it matters if those numbers match. Once you get used to those sights they are dead on. It's easier to zero in on the sights at about 10 yards then as you get used to them move up to the longer shots,

    • @gaderkaderk2126
      @gaderkaderk2126 4 года назад +1

      I own both the M17 and M18. I haven't had misfires on either with around 1500 rounds through the 17 and over 2k through the 18.

    • @victorgarza8790
      @victorgarza8790 4 года назад +2

      I own both m17 &m18 no issues with my pistols

  • @gregoryw70
    @gregoryw70 4 года назад

    Good honest review. Saved me some money. Thank you!

  • @robertlarsonjr7709
    @robertlarsonjr7709 4 года назад

    Glad to see your videos you’re back!

  • @jeremymayes4551
    @jeremymayes4551 4 года назад

    Your honesty is top notch!!!

  • @memesurrectionist5112
    @memesurrectionist5112 4 года назад

    I’m a Sig Fan. I own 7 or so. Including a P320 Gen 1. I love it. About 800 rounds, No FAILURES. I was considering this gun coz I lucked into $1200 somehow. Maybe not now. Appreciate the honesty

  • @francostacy7675
    @francostacy7675 4 года назад

    Thanks for the honest review Honest Outlaw.

  • @PacificAirwave144
    @PacificAirwave144 4 года назад

    I bought a Bersa Thunder .22 ~10 years ago because it was a Walther PPK knock-off and similar to a Hungarian FEG .22 (?AP-22) I had. Its been a wonderful pistol! Maybe 400 rds and NO malfunctions with a mix of ammo. So I got a Bersa Thunder .380 and have maybe only 200 rds through it with 3 different brands of ammo and its hasn't had a malfunction yet. Kind of a budget-brand but I love them. Simple blow-back, accurate, reliable, affordable... I also own a bunch of .45's and 9mm's but that Bersa .380 is the one I'll take camping/back-packing because its light, accurate, and I trust it.

  • @Burna43
    @Burna43 2 года назад

    This video is two years old but I must say I’ve shot the M17 recently and the sights weren’t so much of a hindrance for me. I did love the placement of the slide lock👌🏻. Providing that the m17 has a longer barrel than my g19 yet still had a more felt recoil baffles me.

  • @DrewB7777
    @DrewB7777 4 года назад +3

    I had the same problem with my p320 compact out of the box. Consistently shot 6 inches low (10 yards) so I let friends shoot to see if it was me, but even they had issues. Went out and bought new sights #8 rear and #8 front (was advised to do so) but still have the problem. Literally going crazy at this point.

    • @itakeovercomedy
      @itakeovercomedy 2 года назад

      I did a smaller front sight swap on both of my Sigs and left the rear alone. I would suggest tall rear and small front sights. Corrected the problem for me

  • @Alloyd876
    @Alloyd876 4 года назад

    Really appreciated this was looking at this weapon as a possible future purchase

  • @Karst989
    @Karst989 4 года назад +8

    I've had my M18 since January, shot true out of the box. I've also put 1500 rounds of Federal 115 and some reloads through it without a hic-up, wonder if you got a lemon. I will agree the large sights are a bit annoying, but it's easy to get past. Thought it was weird your case only had 2 21rnd mags, mine came with both 21rnd mags and a 17rnd.

  • @bigbossoooo
    @bigbossoooo 4 года назад

    Thanks for your honest review

  • @jamesR1990
    @jamesR1990 4 года назад +31

    Please review the Beretta APX line. They are definitely within "budget range" now as they are easily found for under $350. I wish they had been chosen over the p320 having handled both I believe them to be the superior gun and (as reported) politics probably are what prevented their adoption as the M17&18

    • @michaelskyinskus8805
      @michaelskyinskus8805 4 года назад +2

      I have the apx combat with a rmr, inforce apl, and a berreta comp and I love it it's a great range gun especially with the 21rd fun sticks

    • @philipstryjewski3434
      @philipstryjewski3434 4 года назад +5

      The Polish police ordered almost 5,000 Beretta APX pistols after they won the bid last October. In there trials they go off a point system so it will be interesting to hear there feedback to add with there stable of Walther p99's and Glocks.

    • @ashton564
      @ashton564 4 года назад +3

      I bought the apx compact and converted it over to a centurion. Personally I love it, but need to take it out to the range. Dry firing isn’t scratching my itch! Damn my sharona cryus.

    • @dilldowschwagginz2674
      @dilldowschwagginz2674 4 года назад +1

      I think they took aesthetics into consideration and eliminated the APX on that alone. Its ugly as hell but shoots ok - my brother has one. It's no G19 or P10c though.

    • @jamesR1990
      @jamesR1990 4 года назад +4

      @@dilldowschwagginz2674 I know its a strong reaction point but I actually like the aesthetics, its what initially caught my attention a few years back when the APX launched. I haven't had the chance to try out the P10c (which sucks as I'm a HUGE CZ guy, I daily carry a P07) but I like it better than the stock G19. I prefer the trigger for sure, and I like the ergos a lot better. I can shoot it far better with those aspects

  • @ratagris21
    @ratagris21 4 года назад +80

    Looks like SIG needs to up their game out if the box on quality. I appreciate you honesty. I agree with you.

    • @wavular
      @wavular 4 года назад +4

      The box is better than the firearm lmao

    • @bdoc4562
      @bdoc4562 4 года назад +3

      Maybe I got lucky, but I pulled my out of the box, 300 rounds, no failure, dead on at 10 yds. Love this gun. Very happy with it.

    • @sammyg4806
      @sammyg4806 2 года назад

      I have the civilian version of this (Xcarry) no failures out of the box. Blazer brass 115 grain and some Turkish 115 grain FMJ rounds which are pretty dirty. Good ejection patterns too. This one here seem like it was barely ejecting the cases.

  • @firewalker6712
    @firewalker6712 4 года назад +32

    I remember when Sig pistols used to come with a target. Proving the accuracy of the gun you just purchased. You can clearly see why that doesn't happen anymore.

    • @JF-cs2qz
      @JF-cs2qz 4 года назад

      The German made one's still do

    • @DS..69
      @DS..69 4 года назад +1

      My 92 ' P226 has one. A pleasant surprise for a first time gun buyer back then.

    • @firewalker6712
      @firewalker6712 4 года назад +1

      @@JF-cs2qz I guess they considered the American made Sig to be of a lower quality. That's not good marketing and it's also insulting!

    • @DS..69
      @DS..69 4 года назад +3

      @@firewalker6712 Well, I have 3 German made Sigs. Grew up on Japanese made cars too. As much as I hate to say it, the American made ones just don't compare. I think we, yes me included would rather watch our Netflix and watch sports and spend money on stuff, then really give thought to the products we make here. Imho.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 4 года назад

      @@JF-cs2qz the 🇩🇪 factory closed down a few weeks ago. SIG Sauer should review the QC. Demand is high so I'm sure they are cranking them out...

  • @larrystevens8913
    @larrystevens8913 2 года назад +5

    I am surprised by the stove pipe you are experiencing ,my m18 has not malfunction at all and it is dead on ,the first 100 rounds right out of the box without even cleaning it first were all 100 head hits. I love this gun more so than my beloved glocks. I own both the M 17& 18

  • @masterxiong7368
    @masterxiong7368 4 года назад

    Great gun, love how it handles. Super smooth. Have not have and issues with my m18. Yes i do have to aim a bit higher to compensate.

  • @BIGALGUNFUN
    @BIGALGUNFUN 4 года назад

    My P320C 45acp looks almost the same but obviously it's smaller. I had 5 Glocks and one Sig, now I have 5 Sigs and one Glock. Never thought that would happen but it did. CCW is a Sig p365xl and I absolutely love it. The only Glock I kept is my G19, I think everyone should own a G19 along with a Keltec Sub2000 for a fun combo. Great review as always bro. Probably no Chinese virus to worry about out in the stix 🤙😊🙏❤🇺🇸

  • @neurotoksyn
    @neurotoksyn 4 года назад

    Appreciate what you do; haven't been able to shoot mine much at all since my local range is closed because of the rona.

  • @bounty446
    @bounty446 4 года назад +92

    Another GREAT review I'd have to pass on that one ....... And that's why they call you the HONEST OUTLAW..........Thank you sir.

    • @richyromero2201
      @richyromero2201 4 года назад +3

      Yes he is good at reviews, good marksman, and honest. But i still recommend you run one yourself before you right it off as a pass. My m18 has 5000 rounds now, not a single malfunction and I still haven't even cleaned it. My sights are dead on too. It is actually very enjoyable to shoot, well it is for me at least

    • @gaderkaderk2126
      @gaderkaderk2126 4 года назад +1

      Haven't had a single failure through both the M17 and M18. Put about 1500 through the 17 and 2k through the 18. My 18 does shoot a little low, nothing serious. I LOVE my 18.

  • @RJEvans44
    @RJEvans44 4 года назад

    For a hot second I was worried that the wife forgot her pot and spoon.
    Thank you for always giving candid and honest reviews.

  • @jonmarlar4346
    @jonmarlar4346 4 года назад

    I have the Sig M17, M18 and the 320X compact with all being good out of the box so far. They all have over a thousand rounds at this point, no malfunctions yet. Now in the last few years, I’ve had some troubled Sigs, two different 229’s, a 226 and an MCX. I don’t trust their quality control that much anymore due to my experience. I do like my three 320s for the most part but I tend to shoot low with them as well, especially my 320X compact. Could be me but it seems, like here, others have the same issue. Overall though, I like the ergo’s and they have a decent trigger IMO.

  • @johnmarshall7736
    @johnmarshall7736 Год назад +1

    M17 and M18 I own are just fine … No failures … reliable and will protect myself quite nicely 👍

  • @curtis5809
    @curtis5809 4 года назад +3

    First time seeing any of your vids. Man you must be former SF or something with accuracy and capabilities like that! Very impressive

    • @Skankhunt-kp6xq
      @Skankhunt-kp6xq 4 года назад

      Lol what?! There’s literally thousands of videos of people doing the same thing

  • @bigbossoooo
    @bigbossoooo 3 года назад

    I got my m18 today. I am very happy with my purchase. I put on my romeo 1 and it makes it look even better. When I go to the rage ill give a update.

  • @richerich853
    @richerich853 4 года назад +1

    I just broke down... I bought one $535 with one 21 magazine. No one has them in stock, I was happy to find one.

  • @silverbackgorilla2112
    @silverbackgorilla2112 4 года назад +12

    I'm 58 years old and have had A Boatload of handguns over the years.
    My only keepers are from Beretta, CZ, and HK.

    • @jimrobison3542
      @jimrobison3542 4 года назад

      True .My keepers are my Beretta 92 compact and my HK45, but I do love my Sig p365 so far

    • @dakotaharless6092
      @dakotaharless6092 4 года назад

      Gotta say the CZ is reliable, I trust it more than any of my other handguns And rifles. I want to like other guns so much, but its the one that will be an end day gun

    • @RedEyePergo
      @RedEyePergo 4 года назад

      No Walther ?

    • @DS..69
      @DS..69 4 года назад

      Guess you never owned a German made P226. Sorry. Lol

    • @SoccerVJ2011
      @SoccerVJ2011 4 года назад

      Smith and Wesson MP9 is a keeper as well

  • @paulcaridi4964
    @paulcaridi4964 4 года назад

    The Sig P320 was the first gun I ever shot. From a family that has never seen a gun, my friend took me to a range before he left to go home to England (shot P320, Glock 19 and Glock 26). I now am licensed, can conceal carry and own a S&W M&P 15-22 sport wanting a Ruger American Predator as a finishing my thesis reward from my stimulus check.

  • @sasha_exxe
    @sasha_exxe 4 года назад

    iirc from watching GT's video he did say there was a break in period for the first few hundred rounds, i will be looking forward to your next 1000 round review on the m18.
    Subbed!

  • @xuballerman2341
    @xuballerman2341 4 года назад +1

    I've owned it for a little over a month and fired over 1,000 rounds, not one misfire or failure to feed. Have fired 5-6 different types of ammo, mostly Federal and Seller & Belliot

  • @MadddGhost
    @MadddGhost 4 года назад +3

    I had the same problem with my p320 the failure to eject rounds properly. Sent it back to sig they told me to grip harder still did same thing. Sold it ASAP good riddance to bad rubbish.

    • @adamc8409
      @adamc8409 4 года назад

      Id say run some +p through it 115 is likely to blame rather than limp wristing

  • @jakeco438
    @jakeco438 4 года назад +1

    I bought a Canik TP9 SC the other day. And shot it today. I had 0 failures! And I ran five different types of ammo through it.

    • @pcpolice7937
      @pcpolice7937 4 года назад

      Jacob Eberhardt Same with mine. Great sub compact firearm with excellent trigger. But I have only 500 or so rounds through it so far. So needs more testing

  • @pandaschannel8861
    @pandaschannel8861 4 года назад +87

    There were 3 malfunctions and sites off. Thats a lot for that price.

    • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
      @PNW_Sportbike_Life 4 года назад +6

      Slowpoke Gonzales but it’s a Sig, so it has to be good!😂😂

    • @richyromero2201
      @richyromero2201 4 года назад +13

      Nobody ever considered human error for sites and poor ammunition for malfunction

    • @timnell207
      @timnell207 4 года назад +2

      Sights

    • @richyromero2201
      @richyromero2201 4 года назад +15

      5000 rounds deep in my m18 now. Not a single malfunction, and that's with a bunch of different types of range ammo, and some of my carry ammo. Sights are dead on right out of the box too.

    • @gaderkaderk2126
      @gaderkaderk2126 4 года назад +7

      Love my 18. 0 malfunctions and the sights are a little low. Nothing crazy. Don't know why he's had 3 failures.. thats actually odd. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Marrs47
    @Marrs47 4 года назад +1

    Owned an early model p320 tacops. Shot low for me, couldn’t tell if it was me but I wasn’t having that issue with any other gun. Sold it, but was hoping by now they would have fixed it. Was on a waiting list for the M18, guess I’ll have to pass.

  • @Not-a-bot222
    @Not-a-bot222 4 года назад +11

    M18 on the 18th! I see you

  • @robinraphael
    @robinraphael 4 года назад

    Another great review with knowledgeable tips good to know. U might want to call up sig and tell em. They should send u a better one. Crazy to see it malfunction sigs are not known for that

  • @rustbelt-
    @rustbelt- 4 года назад

    Welcome back!!

  • @gunfunandstuff9226
    @gunfunandstuff9226 4 года назад

    I had a P250 and it also impacted low (grouped nice, but low).... I called Sig and told them the sight #s that were on the gun and they said it was the lowest front & tallest rear they had, so I couldn't change either and would had to go aftermarket if I wanted to adjust point-of-impact

  • @briangreen550
    @briangreen550 4 года назад

    Great review stay safe.

  • @jhustler1992
    @jhustler1992 3 года назад +2

    The reason why this gun does better at closer range is probably due to the shorter barrel length. This was actually one of the primary reasons why the Navy SEALs switched to the Sig 226 (MK25) from the Beretta. This gun looks cool but sad to see that it jammed that many times in the video. Sad because I love my Sig P226 (MK25), and I really wanted to look into this gun. Glad I saw this review.

  • @RalphyT
    @RalphyT 4 года назад

    Good shoot brother.. I also had the same problem out the box. I'm appearing to shoot slightly left from the target, but havnt had any failures.

  • @MikeScott55
    @MikeScott55 4 года назад +1

    Makes me bummed to hear that serious disappointment in his voice toward the end of the video, but that's why I watch: the HONEST Outlaw. Love the vids. Keep up the great work.

  • @sudoroot8900
    @sudoroot8900 4 года назад

    I am just finding this video...He is 100% on point. I experienced the EXACT same problems. I thought it was just me with the aim being off out of the box. I had the same failures at fires also.
    I put the Romeo1Pro on it and zeroed it and now the accuracy is ridiculous...and for some strange reason it seems to have lightened the recoil and has made the gun so much more enjoyable and now I can use it as a carry weapon.
    I am not a fan fo the stock grip module but changing it out to the Wilson Combat has made a world of difference. After the first couple of hundred of rounds the failures have pretty much gone away. .
    Granted for the price of this gun you shouldn't have to add (in my case $481 with tax Romeo1Pro , Apex flat trigger $50 and Wilson Grip module $65 ) $600 in upgrades to make this an EDC gun and that doesn't include a good holster when the gun is almost $700 out the box.

  • @yockhunter
    @yockhunter 4 года назад

    Yeah I was looking into buying one but not anymore, I’ve had problems with my Saint Edge pistol, failed twice , but I’m thinking about sending it to them

  • @phantomspaceman
    @phantomspaceman 4 года назад

    I remember the M17 KSGunguy owned experienced some serious finish issues. Something to keep an eye on this time.

  • @allenc4909
    @allenc4909 4 года назад

    Thanks for the honest and straightforward assessment. I just picked up a Walther PPQ M2 and was thinking of also getting the P320. This video convinced me otherwise. Thank you for saving $500! (To think Uncle Sam spent $500 million on this is sad. ☹️ )

  • @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
    @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 4 года назад

    Friggin' A, and all the videos I've seen you do, I don't think I've ever seen you miss the target once!!! I know it's *DEFINITELY* not you. What's ironic is that I have one of the "Gen 2" (after the recall) P320's, and after like 700 rounds or so haven't had a single malfunction, and the sights were pretty dead nuts. Sorry to bugger is giving you such a hard time man! I forgot to mention, that the S&B has always given me trouble, and in my 10mm 1911, The Ammo is so weak it might as well be .40...... Everyone has different results though. Thanks for sharing brother!

  • @Wall2157
    @Wall2157 4 года назад +2

    This is definitely a bummer. I have a full-sized standard P320 and it is perfect. I shoot it better than anything else I own. I won't lie, it made me jump wholeheartedly onto the Sig train but seeing this makes me rethink some things. I guess I am fortunate I got a good one.
    I hate that this happened to you, dude. But thanks for your authenticity. You are for sure the best there is here on RUclips.

    • @sammcgee9456
      @sammcgee9456 4 года назад

      Sig is awesome, don’t change brands. The problem here just might be ammo. The m18 is a military gun that is designed to shoot NATO ammo. A lighter spring would be better for non NATO ammo

  • @Doug557
    @Doug557 4 года назад

    I really wanted to like this gun. I actually hadn’t done any research, but as you were doing the intro showing the gun, I was really liking the look. Well, then you started shooting... I’d really like Sig’s assessment of the gun and an investigation. They really need to watch this review and get a quality guy in their production facility investigating.

    • @Doug557
      @Doug557 4 года назад

      I just watched a M17 military surplus video and noticed they were shipping those with different springs for normal pressure. The military version was configured by default for +p. Could that be what’s going on here?

  • @abursaw
    @abursaw 4 года назад

    Well looks like im sticking to my 3yr old P320. I am blessed to not have had issues, watching the issues play out in the video makes me feel for the malfunctions out of the box.

  • @michaelskyinskus8805
    @michaelskyinskus8805 4 года назад

    Very sad to see so issues hopefully they work out well the sig romeo red dot is a pretty good red dot and would like to see your input on it and see how the gun works with it love your content keep it going!!!!

  • @JPilk828
    @JPilk828 4 года назад

    My m18 is 7k deep zero malfunction....i love mine...mine is accurate as any of my glocks...my regular p320 is low left about same as yours is to right..but the sights are adjustable

  • @datN.O.Colombiano
    @datN.O.Colombiano 4 года назад

    Can you please do a review video on the Sig P320 X-VTAC. I just purchased one and I would like to hear your thoughts and opions on it. O, and thanks for the content. Love your videos. Great info, no bullshit.

  • @theremnant216
    @theremnant216 4 года назад +6

    In all seriousness, your channel has really helped get me through this quarantine. I appreciate all your hard work and effort. I've also been meaning to ask you, what is your take on the sig MPX carbine? I really want a PCC and I love the look of the MPX but the fact that it's around $2,000 is hard to swallow.

    • @dilldowschwagginz2674
      @dilldowschwagginz2674 4 года назад +3

      Go with the CZ Scorpion evo. Could even go with the PSA9 or the PSA Jackyl. Both are sweet

    • @theremnant216
      @theremnant216 4 года назад

      @@dilldowschwagginz2674 I'm not a fan of the fact that the Evo needs work immediately after buying it. I shot one before and that safety bothered me. So did the grip angle. And it felt very cheaply made (which I do not say about ANY CZ products outside of the evo) and I was hoping to stick to an ar style platform.

    • @oceres
      @oceres 4 года назад

      @@theremnant216 my MPX-K is hands down my favorite pistol and crazy accurate. I have a Romeo 5 xdr optic on top and it's a perfect marriage.Worth every penny.

  • @AF-O6
    @AF-O6 4 года назад +1

    Ours are working great. It’s easier to train new Airmen to hit well with it (vs worn out M9s) and works fine for a sidearm. It’s not my favorite, but an ok tool to supplement the the M4.

  • @BIGALGUNFUN
    @BIGALGUNFUN 4 года назад

    Holy beard batman! That thing is taking over the channel! 🤙🤙😊

  • @ralphsmith9824
    @ralphsmith9824 4 года назад +1

    Not feeling it, thanks for the review. Stay safe Bro

  • @mototime8975
    @mototime8975 4 года назад

    Mine hits a little low too, but after 2k rounds of S&B 124grain I experienced 0 failures. Sad to see yours with these difficulties.

  • @Dogwatern00b
    @Dogwatern00b 4 года назад

    I purchased an M18 this morning because I considered it a sign of fate that my shop actually had one in stock. Without getting political, they've been largely unavailable with everything going on in the world so I jumped on it.
    Keeping this video in mind, the first couple of magazines were rough. I did have two casings not eject properly and once my slide did not fully seat forward when I released it after reloading. After that though, it seemed to get better and better.
    Although I think we should expect to be able to drive nails at short range without failures straight out of the box, I don't think it's necessarily abnormal to have early issues. We practice and train with our firearms and as we tune our skills to a particular gun they also break in and get better.
    After 50 rounds, I was anxious about the money I had just spent. After 300, I was feeling better. After another 500, I'm hoping any and all concerns will be put to bed.
    I'll be waiting patiently for your 1000 round review.

  • @Fafafohi
    @Fafafohi 4 года назад

    That beard! Rockin’ it, bud!

  • @the_rippla7678
    @the_rippla7678 4 года назад

    Thanks so much bro !

  • @jcel5870
    @jcel5870 4 года назад

    Wow I thought it would've been more reliable also. I'm leaning towards your recommendation of the canik 9mm
    Awesome review

  • @jroch41
    @jroch41 4 года назад

    Very revealing comments. Good review.

  • @bobrisdon
    @bobrisdon 4 года назад

    The XVTAC has the same issue with the sights, when I asked Sig for help, they replied I needed to aim higher.....I have used a non-traditional sight picture since, and it shoots well, but wish I didn't need to. No issues with malfunctions after 1k rounds though.

  • @christophertitanium8424
    @christophertitanium8424 4 года назад

    That's a nice range you got there!

  • @hsaw2658
    @hsaw2658 4 года назад +1

    Been watching your videos for a while,always helpfull and entertaining.👌

  • @Mike525F
    @Mike525F 4 года назад

    Thanks for the honest review! I fell in love until you shot it.

  • @anttiroininen6035
    @anttiroininen6035 4 года назад

    Excellent video! Here in europe i see often Sig sauer X5 Supermatch at competitions.
    maybe it's a good gun review tip?!

  • @nardvark5150
    @nardvark5150 4 года назад +2

    And u just solidified my opinions of Sig..

    • @Sam1628
      @Sam1628 4 года назад +1

      Jeff Nardi agreed I really want to like them

  • @1776orbust
    @1776orbust 4 года назад +9

    the Sig has made you a mere mortal my friend...lol

  • @clouden79
    @clouden79 4 года назад +6

    The malfunctions on the Sig shown here are a real disappointment. I expected better.
    As for the "aiming low", I believe the sights on the M18 are sighted using a "combat hold" as opposed to the center hold or six o'clock hold. This means that the white dot on the front sight is where the point of aim would be (as opposed to the top of the front sight in the center hold or above the front sight in the six o'clock hold.)
    Were you using the combat hold when shooting this firearm?
    Thanks for the great reviews, as always.

  • @newdefsys
    @newdefsys 4 года назад

    I read somewhere that SIG had 'optimized' their military issue M17/18 for the new M1152 & M1153 9mm rounds which are almost certainly loaded to +P specs. I dont know if SIG's commercial M17/18 get the same treatment but maybe a heavier load is required.

  • @jeffshely3047
    @jeffshely3047 4 года назад

    I bought one a little over a month ago and it's the best pistol I've ever owned. No problem with it at. Very accurate weapon. I couldn't be more pleased. Maybe replacing the barrel would fix the problem he's having.

    • @Marrs47
      @Marrs47 4 года назад

      Sigs are a gamble. I’ve had bad ones and good ones over the years

  • @barbararobertson252
    @barbararobertson252 4 года назад +1

    Good to know, I WAS considering buying one. Thanks for the demo!

  • @RagnarLothbrok2222
    @RagnarLothbrok2222 4 года назад +1

    Surprised with the failures, will pass on this. Thanks for the review outlaw

  • @Rnemhrd
    @Rnemhrd 4 года назад

    I had a P320. I had a subcompact x-change kit for it too. Sold it. Went to M&P 2.0 before shooting and deciding I love glocks. My glocks shoot like a dream for me. Personally I think the 19X is a better pistol. Another RUclipsr did a comparison and shot the 19x better and faster. He loves his P320s too.

  • @rjoshm20
    @rjoshm20 4 года назад +3

    These will be replacing our M-9’s later this year. Fingers crossed