Should Suns trade Devin Booker, is Anthony Edwards MJ-esque, Lakers-Nuggets | NBA | THE HERD
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- NBA analyst Ric Bucher joins Colin Cowherd to discuss what the Phoenix Suns should do in the offseason, including whether they should consider trading Devin Booker. He then predicts the winner of Game 5 between the Los Angeles Lakers and Denver Nuggets, along with whether the LA Clippers or Dallas Mavericks have the edge as they continue their series battle. Bucher then discusses Anthony Edwards' ceiling.
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18:36 the pelicans should have listened to this advice before paying zion the max contract. 0 playoff history, always injury prone, doesnt even seem like he wants to be in new orleans, not a team leader, not serious with his career and training to be the best. Zion is a good player, but not great. He's a non reliable good player.
Miami should of three peated..lebron played like garbage...stop it
P❤p😊😊wq❤
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Imagine criticizing a 22 yo who just dropped 40 points in a sweep
Makes no sense
it didn't sound like criticism, just that he has more to improve on. Dude was saying he could be MJ lite
He mad. ✌️words.
The comparison always happens but there will never be a better player then Jordan ever he was that good
Imagine making $6,000,000 a year - or $500,000 a month - or $250,000 every 2 weeks to make these kind of dumb assed 'takes.' I mean i would do it, but if u put urself in those shoes you understand why they really don't care if they make sense or not.
Ant wasn't intentional this series?? What a clown take. He got off the ball at the right moment 95% of the time. Don't turn to "insiders" like Bucher and Mannix for hoops insight. Watch Jason Timpf and the Nerd Sesh guys. People like Bucher are literally just projecting "vibes".
Hoops tonight and yhe nerds are good stuff
Jason timpf isnt that great
Bucher is quite literally useless, he’s not an entertaining host or debater and he doesn’t know how to analyze. Not sure why anyone is paying this guy to talk about basketball
@@lionelgrisbane-ud87 I like bucher
They also said Portland doesn't want their picks. Which might be the no.1
Bizarre analysis of Ant after the series he just had
Neither of these guys watches basketball
Thank god we did. i was like was this posted last year?
Not really. Neither of these guys know anything about basketball. Look at how many times they contradict themselves just here.
Booker is 28 and Durant will be 36. I think you definitely need to trade kd but you might need to trade both. Bc what exactly will you get for kd that helps Booker compete in his peak window? He’s also not someone to build around hes a number 2.
How do you trade a 36 year old and get good returns?
@@SunniMerlot you think teams don’t want Durant? 😂 the dude averaged 27 ppg this year, my dude.
@@SunniMerlot How do you trade 5 firsts a borderline all star and a good rotational player for a 35 year old who's currently injured? That's what the suns did last yr. All it takes is one desperate team
they're both number 2s. that's why it doesn't work. they need a 1 like a prime cp3. a vet cp3 took book to the finals and lost in 6 when he got injured. they need to trade KD and Beal if they can
Trade both is the right answer but the suns won’t do that bc these owners and GMs to egotistical to admit they made a mistake
Beal trash not addressed in segment
Facts
True
50 million+ for 3 years with no trade clause. By far the worse contract in the league.
Beal gonna be out of the league like John Wall if he don't get his act together
@@miztlivasquez8682it might be over
Did he say Lebron is out too? Not yet!
He's out
This aged well🤡
Yes he is. He’s a fraud.
“KAT is a guy who doesn’t know how to win”. MY BROTHER IN CHRIST HE WAS PART OF THE WINNING TEAM THAT SWEPT THE SUNS.
he only started winning bc of rudy gobert
He only started stepping up his game because they are no longer dependent on him. He makes them better but Ant and I can't believe this coming out of my mouth Goebert as well are more so needed. Naz and that bench or vital. Please don't trade Kat to my Knicks.
He hasn’t won in 8 years
Are you telling me kat is a winner because he won 1 round in his whole career lmao...
As a suns fan, I thought we’d handle the wolves in 6 games or less. Most Suns fans were overlooking them thinking they would be a cakewalk, then the playoffs started and the wolves played the most dominant form of bully ball I have ever seen. I’ve been a suns fan my whole life and have watched a lot of playoff series dating back to the Steve Nash years, and I’ve never watched a series where the suns were flat out dominated in every game like that from wire to wire. And the last time the suns were swept was the same year the Wolves franchise started (1989)
I predict Wolves beat Denver in 6. They will expose those frauds who are FINALLY playing a team who isn’t a play-in tournament seed for the first time since 2022 😂
Ant is baby MJ
If the Suns trade Book, they better be completely blowing it all up. Would hate to see Book gone with KD still there...
Bro said Lebrons out but Joel almost out😭 what
This aged well🤡
They’re both out. Wake up
When
Every time I tune in to this show to hear Wolves talk I hear the stupidest things about the Wolves I’ve heard all week.
Thank God, Wolves have a great media ecosystem 🙏🏽
1000 percent agree
Also, 1000 percent agree
Why not stop watching this show?
This talk of LeBron making teammates better needs to stop... it's a fable that keeps getting repeated until ppl believe it without actually thinking about it
This is by far the BEST comment in this entire thread! 💯
he can;t win without a superstar next to him
If I don't think lebron makes ppl better you don't watch or know basketball. Look at Mario Chalmers. And many else
Everytime LeBron wins “Bron makes role players better, always has”
Everytime LeBron loses “LeBron needs more help, his role players suck”
@@gavriilnick4225meanwhile KD joined a 73-9 team 😂
He's 22, they ready to go at him already. He's 22 talking about He's at a crossroads.. where this talk with luka??
Suns need a point guard
Suns need defense they traded it all over the last two years. Ayton, Bridges, Crowder...
Depth and defense is going to be way more important than a true PG which is what everyone is saying they need but in reality it's much bigger than that.
Please tell the sound person they have a bad hiss and that most people are watching the RUclips content on phones. It’s too quiet! Thanks!
Reading the comments before the ant section, you'd think bucher said something wrong. He's absolutely correct , and ant is my favorite player in the league. Ant is going to end up a an all time great player or one of the greatest players of all time , the crossroad is now. He's trending more towards kobe mj wade territory than he is nique, vince, tmac... all are hall of famers. Theyre complimenting ant , theyre not hating 😊
Does Rick have it in his contract that he must talk about Lebron?
Yup just like Shannon
The whole media does. He’s a fraud and the lakers were pretenders that we’re lucky not to get swept AGAIN. They’ll still find a way to slob on Lebron tho
What is Vivek Ramaswamy doing there with Colin?
Huh? At least Vivek is smart.
It’s Rick Doucher
Not sure how the Clippers Mavs series but the Clippers definitely have the coaching advantage
Karl AnthonyTowns is not leaving Minnesota LMFAO
Just cant replicate what it seems like kat and ant have on and off the court. Just pay the tax for the love of god. We got the core together, we got the vets, let it ride for a few years. we got control of most everybody for another damn near 5 years
All Colin does is try to take good players out of small markets.
We need to see what we are going to do with our salary cap.
Heck we need to see what we are going to do with the ownership.
Honestly I hope it doesn't mess with Connelly or Finch etc
He may not what to leave but Minnesota is about to be in the 2nd luxury apron. They already said they're gonna trade a player to bring that salary cal down
@@pillsburidoughboi alex rodriguez and marc lore if they own the team they will because they are broke wait to see what happened in court
KD is Bob McAdoo btw
George Gervin
😂😂😂@@RASTAGOOB
George Gervin does feel more appropriate
The takes on Anthony Edwards in this segment are hilariously stupid.
That’s because they’re trying to continue to advance the narrative that the game is predominantly being taken over by foreigners. It has everything to do with American players aren’t great anymore that it’s a euro league now. It’s the globalization of the NBA so paid hacks like Colin and Rick are gonna ignore how great ANT is and has been this year and in the playoffs. It doesn’t fit their narrative.
I’ll never forget when Ric Bucher called LeBron “the best glue guy in the league” when he was with the Heat. LeBron James. A glue guy. Lmaoooooo
I agree. Reset completely....trade KD to San Antonio and Booker to the Jazz or memphis or the nets/knicks/hawks for Picks, picks, picks...tank next season and then go for cooper Flagg after that. Keep Beal for now. His contract is too terrible to trade...
Not sure what Ric Bucher was watching?? Cmon man!!
Ric Bucher and Colin were both absolutely correct in predicting that Denver will have a stronger sense of urgency and will not come out as slowly as they did in the last 4 games. Denver still looked off in this game 5, but they still took it 4-1.
Why are we talking about the Lakers? They about to lose this series AGAIN! and you can argue the Lakers have more talent (AD and LeBron) 2 top 10 players on their team yet they about to lose in 5 games? This media is a joke..
Lebron is 39 years old in his 21st season. The Phoenix Sun has 3 top scorers that can probably score 80 points between them.
Mcintyre comes in with absolute jibber ish
Rick is completely clueless 😂
I'd have trouble keeping up my train of thought if Colin cut me off every 5 words too. That being said, Rick is clueless for continuing to subject himself to it.
One of Colin’s worst guests.
Great segment on Ant I agree 100% and it is scary to think what if this is truly 5/10 of what he could be like he said 🤯🐺
Ric told you Colin, he told you that you were a fool to think the Lakers would tank to face OKC, when they’d lose BOTH series anyway
we have no idea if the Lakers or OKC would've won. OKC beating the Zion-less pels means nothing
Lakers series ain't over yet is it?
@@garrettwilkie6046dude get over it LeBron suck dude
@@josephsanchez5987 95% of the NBA players suck worse than
LA would've beat OKC matchup bro. If you played sports & basketball at a high level then you would understand🙏🏽💯👑😁
Trading Booker is the wrong move, size is not the Suns problem, point guard is, the suns have two shooting guards and they don’t shoot well neither play good defense, trade Beal somehow and sign a good power forward
No, Anthony Edwards is NOT “MJ esque”. Let me know when Edwards wins an MVP, a DPOY & makes it to a few conference Finals as the clear cut best player on his team. Also, let me know when he leads the league every year in every advanced analytics category. 🤦🏼♂️
I think we put too much on the players hold the organization first accountable the focus is always the players start with the Top down pause.
is time for Lebron and KD to pair up or is he headed to OKC?
Please tell us what darvin ham does well as a coach
Once again Ric is right on point
suns trade booker to pdx? terrible idea.
KD is so talented that everyone was trying to make him into a player to build around when his whole career hes been saying that hes not that guy
KDs missing barber is the real mvp
Ric Bucher, love his basketball analysis
When KD and Russ were at their peak together, Bucher said RWB was the better player
10:49 do these clowns even watch the games? Denver has been “messing around” with the Lakers? Um, I don’t think so. Murray has been cold the whole series except for one half. KCP isn’t shooting well and Aaron Gordon hasn’t been scoring besides one game. Their bench is almost non-existent and the series could easily be 2-2 right now. It’d be nice if people who get paid to talk about sports actually knew what they were talking about
Ric's take is that KD wants to go back to Seattle. 😂😂😂
Yeah that was irrelevant take
No there's likely truth to it. Durant has even talked about being involved in bringing a team back to Seattle.
@@Musso88 As a potential owner or in some other capacity, not as a player.
For years I heard KD was the best player in the league. Now all of a sudden he’s just a baller? Nah, keep that same energy
Yo Rick talk about the Warriors more
I liked Zac Lowe’s idea of trading KD to Golden State for all the young guys and some picks or to Miami for Herro/Jaquez and some picks
This is stupid but it makes sense coz Kerr is not a fan of playing young players.
I’d rather trade Booker to golden state for draymond young guys and picks. If I’m golden state I 100% want Booker instead of a 36 yo Durant
No, slow starts and not taking them seriously, that's rubbish. The fact and reason is Lakers are a damn good team. Bad reporting you saying they are playing with them, you will see that in tonight's result.
Also kd isn’t staying if Booker is traded. He doesn’t love phoenix it’s not like he’s in an exciting city
KD don't know wtf he wants. Him and Kyrie are the most unhappy guys.
He played in OKC for 9 years 💀
@@cb33109 he was younger then and the cba rules made it hard for him to leave
He doesn’t have a choice 😂
that last line "let me see this guy at the biggest stage and lets see whats what" should be done on every team.
Crazy, you dont get rid of Booker or KD. You get rid of Beal and get a defender down low. And for Christ sakes get some friggin role players. Their bench is horrific!
That 2021 phx finals team had so many great pieces at the time around Booker and CP3- ayton, bridges, crowder, Torrey Craig, Payne.
Those other pieces matter. These young guns are coming so it’s gonna be fascinating to see what phx does this offseason 👀
They could've made another run if they kept that core together and swapped CP3 out with a younger PG
Saric too and someone else
Dey don't need to trade booker dey need chemistry
devin booker is 4-6 without chris paul in the playoffs averaging 30 ppg. like what are we doing man
Ant is the next nba superstar. Dude is 22. Mj at 22 was at rookie or at least 2nd year player. Ant will be the best player in the league at 25 if he keeps getting better
Colin’s takes are hilarious 😂
Booker to Golden State to replace Mr FoUr RiNgS
I'd like to see Booker on Orlando..
You gotta give up franz and suggs then
1k on Lakers at $3.40
Told ya so
Gee guys Ant just swept the suns !
He praised him teammates first and played amazing every game .. wow can’t believe any criticism from anyone
Them saying Portland tells me they are so out of touch. Saying Portland doesn’t ned their picks is crazy. Building a team naturally is the way to go. Brooklyn gutted their team for Durant and Kyrie and have nothing to show for it. Then phoenix gutted their team and just got D, your team naturally. See okc, see golden state., see Boston’s, see Denver.
If I’m okc I take every pick that’s not mine and give it up for booker. I’m trying to keep my core of if I can
I freaking Love Ric! His take on Ant-Man was spot on.
What?! 😂
Dangelo Russell is not a playoff quality player....true. It's not just that he's not really cerebral, it's truly a lack of athleticism for Dangelo.
I would 100% trade Book, KD, and Beal. They need to completely start over. These guys aren’t getting younger.
The Thunder should trade some of their million first round draft picks to team Devin Booker up with Shai Alexander and Chet Holmgren. They would dominate the league for years to come. Or Booker could go back home to Michigan and play for the Pistons. They have some great young talent that needs that stud to put them over the top. Devin Booker with Cade Cunningham , Ausar Thompson , Jalen Duren , and Jaden Ivey could be nice.
KD mysteriously gets injured when he is the focal point
That book to blazers trade is so dumb it’s hard to comprehend.
Why would phx trade their best player to do what? Be a max 35 win team in the west?
The lakers need Chis Paul, the Suns will not give up Booker.
KD is an ALL NBA player this year that’s still top 15 player in the league minimum.
Colin is just now hitting his prime
Trading Devin seems a bad idea to me. He's younger than KD and can light people up. If someone wants Beal or KD that might be worth exploring imo. Get some more defense and floor general maybe
Can I see ANT vs SGA WCF??
Super teams don’t work if it’s created via trades (ie. Suns). Super teams only work if it’s via free agency (ie. Lebron with Miami).
The Celtics original Big 3 Pierce Ray and KG was built via trade…..
I promise you that he aint thinkin about the media. He knows he's great in his own mind and the media doesn't validate that.
Jokic has the most talent by far
Ahhhh good ole Rick spreading misinformation saying book has never won a playoff game without Chris Paul
What about the thunder( wildcard) knicks, yes miami, what about Philly, and what about Chicago or Cleveland or pelicans
Booker get traded for Atlanta picks and 3 players like a Keldon Johnson, zack Collin’s , Davante, DGraham, osman of their choice.. that would definitely upgrade a suns team n hold them over bc I don’t see with any assets besides Booker n Durant
Nah they got that d lo take wrong. Neymar himself said i dont think when i cross up 5 dudes i just do it. Muscle memory and being automatic. Thinking about it too much holds you back
Phoenix should do what the Utah jazz did trade everybody..
They forget the bubble year with Rubio they were basically a half game from making the playoffs. The team was on the come up and right there before CP3 and I believe they would have been in the playoffs that next year. Booker is great, the Suns getting rid of Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, and Cameron Payne and others was where they messed up because we need 3 and D players to surround KD and Booker. Get rid of Beal somehow and get some defenders that can knock down open 3's and this team can compete. and a real point guard
What about LeBron going to Suns for Booker. Booker is a better compliment to AD. Meanwhile in PHX LeBron becomes the leader, the steadying presence and KD can hoop and close out games. With LeBron the facilitating guy both Beal and KD get better easier shots. Not sure about extras though draft picks etc but that idea works.
Reality is none of these old guys are winning any more although they might get deeper into the tourney.
If the Knicks can trade picks...PICKS and keep this roster in tact I'm fine with Booker. Maybe if we lose Mitchell Robinson I'm cool
And Julius Randle can go
First time in a while I like a segment wit Ric… J Mac was on one wit KD 😂😂😂😂
16:30 Will always find a way to critique..
You’re wrong! We had Rubio and suns were 500 team and was in the Bubble fighting to get in playoffs, before Paul was here. Suns would have got in playoffs the year before Paul if Ayton wasn’t suspended 25 games! We would have win more if not for that and easily been in the playoffs. Without Paul! All we need was a competent point guard and we had Rubio who was
I live in SoCal, Lakers fan from birth. I did not jump back on the bandwagon. I love the Lakers but I realize this isn’t going to happen. They went down 0-3.
Also, it’s true that Lebron does do the finger pointing stuff, but that does not change the fact that I believe Darvin Ham is not a good coach.
Pretty wrong judgement of KD at age 35…
I think Booker would do great at the warriors bin Thompson as he is rusty now
Ant already stated that he wants to be the best player in the NBA. He’s improved every season of his pro career and then there’s Playoff 🐜……..whose playoff stats r already upped from the regular season. I’m pretty sure that his statistics take a jump. It’s his team and he is A LEADER on the team. Conley and Anderson r the vet leaders that r the glue. It’s a thing of beauty when Ant is on. It’s awesome to watch because he gives it at every level, with a growing mix of moves, and then D’s up on the other end. He’s my favorite current player. Ant just needs more consistency, less stupid to’s, and more time. Great job making the Sun(s) set. Take your howls at that moon and pickaxes r most likely needed next. 🌕 🐺
P.S. I can’t wait to watch his prime. He’s already got a lot of game that will translate well as he ages.
Funny how they throw Luka in there but Harden carried a franchise to a game 7 in the west finals. Luka is a new James harden but hasn’t done what he has… interesting
Ah yes... good Ole Rick, the return of Spike from Buffy the vampire slayer
Booker to OKC? Pair him with SGA.
You the best🎉🎉🎉
When has KD ever acted like Seattle was his favorite place? And are we forgetting that literally every star besides curry drafted pre 2010 is no longer with their original team?
Yeah, that Seattle comment was a reach lol
Bron is eliminated from the playoff so all will here the rest of the playoffs is hours of debate on wether or not bron will retire! And what are the lakers and warriors gonna do during the off season. Its sad that though eliminated those 2 teams will get talked about more than the teams still playing i kinda wish steph and bron would just go ahead and retire so we could get better content!
I remember when kd left and got his two rings they were CRUSHING RUSS FOR NOT MAKING IT OUT THE FIRST ROUND AGAINST THE JAZZ MAN
KD just always wanted to be one of the guys but not that guy!!!! Its that simple.
This is not unique. KD is more like Michael Jordan, Kyrie Irving, Devin Booker, Steph Curry etc .. etc .. These players are called Specialist, a System based player, Plug and play of sort. He needs an established super stacked from top to bottom teams in order to succeed the most, whether that be home grown or being a mercenary. He needs that structure in order to succeed.
KD is not Lebron who is a floor raiser and a ceiling raiser, who can carry an underdog team into a contender, a system unto himself. So it's not fair to compare him to this archetype because he's different. I think the disappointment mostly come to this. Why can't he do this, the other guy did that so and so ..