#Frasier Frasier comes to Boston to reconnect with his son. Harvard University Dean wants to hire him for psychology post as professor. TJ Cast Kelsey Grammer
The problem with is not the cast. It's the times. People expect too much, compare too much, or really exoect it be as great as the other. I mean, it eons tons of Emmy's. Everybody knew this couldn't compete with that. I truly love the character of Frasier and don't care about the differences. This reflects life. That's what people don't get. Life shifts. People will see that reflected in the show, material and characters.
but in effect isnt it a copy of frasier 1993. Nicholas Lydnhurst effectively another niles type character the struggles that frasier has with his dad are now thru the son
I totally agree with you! The difference between the original one and the reboot just reflects the change of era, and that's fine. People like me were attracted by the values then, will still be attracted by its value now.
When IMDB used to have discussion pages someone was saying in real time Freddy must be a doctor now yet in this he drops out of Harvard to become a firefighter. So it's mimicking the blue collar/intellectual divide between Frasier and his Dad.
I dont think there is any shows that still get tons of emmy , nor do i feel am emmy is as prestigious as it was. But the show stayed true to itself and its still the same vein of comedy. Why is it supposed to be as good? And did we know frasier or cheers was going to be great just 2 or 3 episodes in? The problem is the times, in a different way. When frasier aired,people watched tv to watch tv and enjoy it. Now its like wrestling with all the "smart marks" they think they're exects ,they think their opinion is special or important and they want to criticize lighting,sound and writing like they ever created anything in their life,aside from mayhe a child that they ignore. I use the internet, i like YT,hell im commenting right now. But i miss when people wrote lettersx bc when you have to buy a stamp and mail something , it has to be a serious complaint to justify your time. But now its so easy to complain that so many ppl exclusively complain all day about everything, and we see it.
Guess I’m the only fan who loves this lol. I love the cast and think they’re hilarious . My favorite is the actor who plays Niles/Daphne’s son because he acts so much like Niles and a bit of Daphne😂😂😂 I think it’s funny and open to this. Y’all old, negative, grumpy people need to get out more 😂😂
@@alphanerd7221 i got multiple criticisms. Dismiss me all you like, if its funny, why not tell us why you think so ? The level of writing on display is sub mediocre, its full of exposition because they do not have the talent to actually show us with quality characterisation, subtext or interactions . They couldn't even think of a nice way to show martin crane . 3/10.
@@Bow-to-the-absurd Grammar is great. his chemistry with Lyndhurst is perfect. I like the academic humor. The characters are moral. "its full of exposition" It's a sitcom pilot. Of course it's full of exposition. Name one that isn't. It has to set the stage for possibly over 100 episodes. You don't see subtext because of your poor perception.
It's like breaking up the Beatles - the original show had it's golden moment in time amazing cast - i loved it - actors at the peak of their powers - Frasier unfortunately past his prime - should have left it alone!!
I think the actor is good. I think it's just the writing, the casting, the group around him. Perhaps in time, see how it goes. But yeah... it has the pitfalls of this new garbage. Everything has to be so so-called multicultural, so you have the younger black woman with the British professor, and his son with a foreign girl, and everyone is wacky hehehe lol. It just seems like a hodgepodge and mixup of different wacky scripted characters. The original made sense. The original characters seemed like they could be real people out there. He has his father move in with him. His father provides contrast and is relatable for the comedy. His brother lives in Seattle too, etc. And his brother seems like someone real. It makes sense. In this new one, it's just a group of strangers, that don't seem very realistic. First impression this is sad. Can't believe how time goes either and how old everyone gets so quickly.
Its just not as good without Niles, in many ways it was Niles that made the last Frasier series so good, not Frasier himself, also, the laugh track is utterly, utterly, terrible
@@neilmc1842 Yes I know about that, and it is a tragedy. I've read up on many actors on the internet like millions of people have and for a second I thought Lyndhurst lost his wife AND child but I was getting him mixed up with Keanu Reeves. Mr Reeves looks in good shape to be honest [even though he's 10-odd years younger].... then again... "Rodney" hasn't been doing action movies. Can you imagine?
People call a boring show like Andor a masterpiece but won’t give Frasier a few episodes to find its footing. I think having a whole new cast was the right way to go. As much as I would like to see Niles they have already done that, it was great, why do it again?
The magic which made the show so speacial is not there. The Seattle-based series was sublimely humorous. This one's merely good. Are the writers the same?
This is sOooo damn bad. Of course, throw in some "Diversity" because the original characters were too "white and problematic" no doubt. And reducing Nicholas Lyndhurst from a gem like Only Fools & Horses, to the stereotypical old Jeeves the butler clichè.
Exactly what I was thinking too. This forced "diversity" ruins shows. The first show was believable with Niles, who was his brother, and his dad, and the cleaning lady who Niles falls for, and Ross the producer. But now what is this? A professor who is some wacky caricature, and a younger black lady with him, and then his son who is another wacky caricature and his foreign gf, and then the wacky son... it doesn't come across very realistic and it feels all mismatched and is too forced. Heaven forbid there is a couple that is white female white male, can't have that
@@TRex-dd4ze Yes, very well said. I don't watch many modern shows because the n***er fatigue is at an all time high. Surprised they didn't turn Freddy into a black gay.
Mixed race couples exist in this world. Esp at this day and age and always have. For whatever reason it triggers you, it’s yours to deal with. The show is great, it couldn’t get all its characters back arguably because of the problematic character that Grammer is in real life, but it’s done a good job capturing the essence of the original. An old friend and a dept academic who jab at each other exactly the way Niles and Ross used to, David who as a first time actor doing an amazing job at capturing and being the son of Niles Crane, Martin being epitomized as Freddy, and in general the lighting, setting and all of it trying to pay homage to the years of run of Frasier. Your opinion is yours, but your annoyance at not seeing white couple is just blatantly unreasonable and you’ve got some work to do. Niles and Daphne are a white couple and you got a decade of that. Not to mention, the actress playing Eve is half white. Can’t please any underlying discomfort of viewers if they’re showing up to complain with their own biases.
New generation is simply not educated enough for smart humor 😒 🙄 and we live Ina world that absolutely no one can laugh at themselves. To bad the show did so bad
Writers/producers have to try to ground a show in reality. The 1990s-2004 show was. His dad was a cop, had a down to earth regular guy personality, which contrasted well for comedy with his two psychiatrist elitist type sons, but both Fraser and Niles had believable personalities, could be real people. Ross who was rough around the edges, a real girl out there, and Daphne too. And it made sense he is with his family, and has his dad move in with him, and his brother is in the city. But this new one, it's just like the characters around him are trying to be wacky, and don't really fit. Like caricatures, but characters I can't really imagine in real life. It doesn't seem realistic enough. And what's with all this forced so-called multiculturalism. It's just trying to force all these pieces into the puzzle, and it just doesn't come across as real as the original show. Of course, give it time, but so far it's sad to see. And sad how people age so quickly too :(
Just too many people gabbling in a small room from the start and based on old characters but then little like them. Frasier was a concept based on taking one character from another comedy and refining it but this one, transporting in from the word go the whole elaborate and messy complex family group from a series that had finally ran its course, was overwhelming and just did not work.
0:42 "Doesn't explain why she looks familiar" .... how the h3ll did THIS get a laugh???? Even a laugh-track director should go "Um, nah... not here". Terrible.
You know, I thought Freddy was gonna turn out to be gay, because: 1. He and Eve live together but not romantically involved. 2. They mention a guy named John. (Thought to be his secret boyfriend) Well, it's a Force of Habit. We live in 2023. With the forced diversity and all. Don't get me started on Wokism.
I thought the same thing. This show stinks, IMO. I don't like any of these characters. It seems forced, and the laugh track is awful. They will never capture the magic of the original. The only character funny is frasier.
The laughter track is a scandelous disgrace , fake laughing at absolutely not ,almost every sentence there's fake laugh..take out the laughter track ams see how crap it is ,ugggggg
3:10 This is where old Frasier came back for me that facial expression and tone in his voice, simply fantastic
YES!
So happy u time stamped it was looking for same part
you have to give it atleast a season to see growth and storylines. This is not a movie, it's a series.
You make a very good point teddy. If I’m being honest I didn’t think much of it but as you say, give it a chance
The actors have to develop their characters...they all seem to be off to a good start.
The problem with is not the cast. It's the times. People expect too much, compare too much, or really exoect it be as great as the other. I mean, it eons tons of Emmy's. Everybody knew this couldn't compete with that. I truly love the character of Frasier and don't care about the differences. This reflects life. That's what people don't get. Life shifts. People will see that reflected in the show, material and characters.
but in effect isnt it a copy of frasier 1993. Nicholas Lydnhurst effectively another niles type character the struggles that frasier has with his dad are now thru the son
I totally agree with you! The difference between the original one and the reboot just reflects the change of era, and that's fine. People like me were attracted by the values then, will still be attracted by its value now.
When IMDB used to have discussion pages someone was saying in real time Freddy must be a doctor now yet in this he drops out of Harvard to become a firefighter. So it's mimicking the blue collar/intellectual divide between Frasier and his Dad.
@@Reticence9zen924 yes i remember that there was a point about on the buses where olive is pregnant again but the next film comes no 2nd child.
I dont think there is any shows that still get tons of emmy , nor do i feel am emmy is as prestigious as it was.
But the show stayed true to itself and its still the same vein of comedy. Why is it supposed to be as good? And did we know frasier or cheers was going to be great just 2 or 3 episodes in?
The problem is the times, in a different way. When frasier aired,people watched tv to watch tv and enjoy it. Now its like wrestling with all the "smart marks" they think they're exects ,they think their opinion is special or important and they want to criticize lighting,sound and writing like they ever created anything in their life,aside from mayhe a child that they ignore.
I use the internet, i like YT,hell im commenting right now. But i miss when people wrote lettersx bc when you have to buy a stamp and mail something , it has to be a serious complaint to justify your time. But now its so easy to complain that so many ppl exclusively complain all day about everything, and we see it.
I enjoyed it, it’s still finding its feet in the first couple of episodes hopefully it will get better as the episodes go on .
yes every series has the kinda intro episodes after that they are usually better because everything is settled
Guess I’m the only fan who loves this lol. I love the cast and think they’re hilarious . My favorite is the actor who plays Niles/Daphne’s son because he acts so much like Niles and a bit of Daphne😂😂😂 I think it’s funny and open to this. Y’all old, negative, grumpy people need to get out more 😂😂
I think most people that watched it like it but people like to whine on the internet.
Actually I'm also giving it a chance.
@@alphanerd7221 i got multiple criticisms.
Dismiss me all you like, if its funny, why not tell us why you think so ?
The level of writing on display is sub mediocre, its full of exposition because they do not have the talent to actually show us with quality characterisation, subtext or interactions .
They couldn't even think of a nice way to show martin crane .
3/10.
It's just not a funny show. Laugh track is not a good feature of a sitcom anymore.
@@Bow-to-the-absurd Grammar is great. his chemistry with Lyndhurst is perfect. I like the academic humor. The characters are moral.
"its full of exposition"
It's a sitcom pilot. Of course it's full of exposition. Name one that isn't. It has to set the stage for possibly over 100 episodes.
You don't see subtext because of your poor perception.
Well done 😊👏
This is funny lol the elderly white man and black lady are funny hope they'll be a regular cast. Frasier is still witty.
They are a part of the regular cast.
Frasier blocking the door 🚪 after David is just the funniest thing 😂😂😂😂
It's like breaking up the Beatles - the original show had it's golden moment in time amazing cast - i loved it - actors at the peak of their powers - Frasier unfortunately past his prime - should have left it alone!!
I think the actor is good. I think it's just the writing, the casting, the group around him. Perhaps in time, see how it goes. But yeah... it has the pitfalls of this new garbage. Everything has to be so so-called multicultural, so you have the younger black woman with the British professor, and his son with a foreign girl, and everyone is wacky hehehe lol. It just seems like a hodgepodge and mixup of different wacky scripted characters. The original made sense. The original characters seemed like they could be real people out there. He has his father move in with him. His father provides contrast and is relatable for the comedy. His brother lives in Seattle too, etc. And his brother seems like someone real. It makes sense. In this new one, it's just a group of strangers, that don't seem very realistic. First impression this is sad. Can't believe how time goes either and how old everyone gets so quickly.
Love the new series.
Its just not as good without Niles, in many ways it was Niles that made the last Frasier series so good, not Frasier himself, also, the laugh track is utterly, utterly, terrible
Bohoo! Cry me a river. Grow up!
Oh what boring fresh hell. No laughs, no joy.
Holy balls! How does Nick Lyndhurst look older than John Cleese in this clip here?
Lost his son in 2020 was only 19, stressful event like that would affect anyone.
@@neilmc1842 Yes I know about that, and it is a tragedy. I've read up on many actors on the internet like millions of people have and for a second I thought Lyndhurst lost his wife AND child but I was getting him mixed up with Keanu Reeves.
Mr Reeves looks in good shape to be honest [even though he's 10-odd years younger].... then again... "Rodney" hasn't been doing action movies. Can you imagine?
I had a bad feeling ....and I was right.
You would think growing up surrounded by relaxed Niles, Daphne, Martin & Roz that David wouldn't S1Niles level uptight
Could be that Niles overcompensated to make sure the Moon genes didn’t beat his Crane genes and take their lunch money
I mean Frederick didnt turn out like Lillith
it looks like it is trying too hard
If they were actually trying to make a good show, they wouldn't need to add a laugh track. This feels lazy.
Kelsey just seems too old and tired, Frasier needs lifeforce.
Kelsey is elderly now...what do you expect? This is a show about his senior life...
I don't like the sound of laughing i keep hearing
canned laughter just like Friends and he big bang theory, subliminally prodding you to believe its funny, which its not.
I smell a cancelation coming....
Everyone I know who watched it said it was terrible.
People call a boring show like Andor a masterpiece but won’t give Frasier a few episodes to find its footing.
I think having a whole new cast was the right way to go. As much as I would like to see Niles they have already done that, it was great, why do it again?
It feels a bit flat!! Not relly waring to the support cast!
The magic which made the show so speacial is not there. The Seattle-based series was sublimely humorous. This one's merely good.
Are the writers the same?
You're jumping the gun. The series took a few episodes to find it's feet but it gets much better
This is sOooo damn bad. Of course, throw in some "Diversity" because the original characters were too "white and problematic" no doubt. And reducing Nicholas Lyndhurst from a gem like Only Fools & Horses, to the stereotypical old Jeeves the butler clichè.
Who exactly are you quoting here, because not one person ever faulted the original show.
Exactly what I was thinking too. This forced "diversity" ruins shows. The first show was believable with Niles, who was his brother, and his dad, and the cleaning lady who Niles falls for, and Ross the producer. But now what is this? A professor who is some wacky caricature, and a younger black lady with him, and then his son who is another wacky caricature and his foreign gf, and then the wacky son... it doesn't come across very realistic and it feels all mismatched and is too forced. Heaven forbid there is a couple that is white female white male, can't have that
@@TRex-dd4ze Yes, very well said. I don't watch many modern shows because the n***er fatigue is at an all time high. Surprised they didn't turn Freddy into a black gay.
Mixed race couples exist in this world. Esp at this day and age and always have. For whatever reason it triggers you, it’s yours to deal with. The show is great, it couldn’t get all its characters back arguably because of the problematic character that Grammer is in real life, but it’s done a good job capturing the essence of the original. An old friend and a dept academic who jab at each other exactly the way Niles and Ross used to, David who as a first time actor doing an amazing job at capturing and being the son of Niles Crane, Martin being epitomized as Freddy, and in general the lighting, setting and all of it trying to pay homage to the years of run of Frasier. Your opinion is yours, but your annoyance at not seeing white couple is just blatantly unreasonable and you’ve got some work to do. Niles and Daphne are a white couple and you got a decade of that. Not to mention, the actress playing Eve is half white. Can’t please any underlying discomfort of viewers if they’re showing up to complain with their own biases.
Olivia is atleast a good addition to the new show.
Good acting overall except the actor playing Eve--seems too forced.
Why did they make Freddy a C?
It's honestly not very good. I didn't expect anything else, but man was I disappointed.
O please please bring back niles, daphne & roz. Because this is not funny
New generation is simply not educated enough for smart humor 😒 🙄 and we live Ina world that absolutely no one can laugh at themselves. To bad the show did so bad
That's because it is that bad. The original was funny, and the cast was superb.
@@texasgirl6000 This is every bit as good as the last show.
This show isn't doing bad. Try again.
Writers/producers have to try to ground a show in reality. The 1990s-2004 show was. His dad was a cop, had a down to earth regular guy personality, which contrasted well for comedy with his two psychiatrist elitist type sons, but both Fraser and Niles had believable personalities, could be real people. Ross who was rough around the edges, a real girl out there, and Daphne too. And it made sense he is with his family, and has his dad move in with him, and his brother is in the city.
But this new one, it's just like the characters around him are trying to be wacky, and don't really fit. Like caricatures, but characters I can't really imagine in real life. It doesn't seem realistic enough. And what's with all this forced so-called multiculturalism. It's just trying to force all these pieces into the puzzle, and it just doesn't come across as real as the original show. Of course, give it time, but so far it's sad to see. And sad how people age so quickly too :(
@@TRex-dd4ze Watch he Frasier pilot again and tell me how grounded Daphne and Roz are.
There is no multiculturalism here. You are crazy.
The set for the apt looks bland to me, for any sitcom imo
Just too many people gabbling in a small room from the start and based on old characters but then little like them. Frasier was a concept based on taking one character from another comedy and refining it but this one, transporting in from the word go the whole elaborate and messy complex family group from a series that had finally ran its course, was overwhelming and just did not work.
Oh God
No, thanks.
It feels thd writing is not brilliant. Scenes need to move much faster
Not sure if it's in front of a real audience but the laughter sounds fake and is extremely annoying!
It’s in front of a real audience but they do this thing called sweetening where they edit the laughs if the jokes don’t land like most don’t in this.
0:42 "Doesn't explain why she looks familiar" .... how the h3ll did THIS get a laugh???? Even a laugh-track director should go "Um, nah... not here".
Terrible.
@@RO-wn1dg Ah okay, thanks. I haven't been able to see the full episode yet. In my part of Australia - we've only got to see trailers.
Because he's too drunk to attend his own lectures.
Too much canned laughter...
Why recycle why....totally unnecessary reboot 😢
Pitiful and dull and soils the original! How could they be so absurd? Just awful!
You know, I thought Freddy was gonna turn out to be gay, because:
1. He and Eve live together but not romantically involved.
2. They mention a guy named John. (Thought to be his secret boyfriend)
Well, it's a Force of Habit. We live in 2023. With the forced diversity and all. Don't get me started on Wokism.
I thought the same thing. This show stinks, IMO. I don't like any of these characters. It seems forced, and the laugh track is awful. They will never capture the magic of the original. The only character funny is frasier.
“Wokism”☝️🤓
It was definitely a swerve.
@@texasgirl6000 Your rote whinging is forced.
@@texasgirl6000 how about Alan and Olivia? I find them both funny in the same scene together.
it's not funny. the humor is forced.
The laughter track is a scandelous disgrace , fake laughing at absolutely not ,almost every sentence there's fake laugh..take out the laughter track ams see how crap it is ,ugggggg