Children as coronavirus infection drivers
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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Pediatric SARS-CoV-2: Clinical Presentation, Infectivity, and Immune Responses
Massachusetts General Hospital
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Background
Asymptomatic carriers, including children, can spread infection and carry virus into their household
Objectives
Potential role children play in the coronavirus infectious disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic
Factors that drive severe illness in children
Study design
0-22 years
With suspected infection
Presenting to urgent care clinics or being hospitalized
For confirmed/suspected SARS-CoV-2 infection
Or multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C)
Enrolled provided
Nasopharyngeal, oropharyngeal, and/or blood specimens
SARS-CoV-2 viral load
Serology
ACE2 RNA levels
Results
192 children
Forty-nine children (26%) were diagnosed with acute SARS-CoV-2 infection
An additional 18 children (9%) met criteria for MIS-C
Nasopharyngeal viral load was highest in children in the first 2 days of symptoms
Some children carry very high viral loads even before symptoms develop
Viral load in respiratory secretions of children was high, despite mild or absent symptoms
Significantly higher than hospitalized adults with severe disease (P = .002)
Age of child / young person did not impact viral load
Younger children had lower ACE2 expression (P=0.004)
Source of children’s infection
Nine (18%) did not have a known infected household contact
26 (53%) attended grade school.
Presentations
SARS-CoV-2 infection and non-COVID-19-related illnesses presented similarly
In the positive group
25 (51%) presented with fever
Cough 23, (47%)
Congestion 17 (35%)
Rhinorrhea 14, 29%)
Headache 13, 27%)
None of which were significantly different between the two groups
Significant difference
Anosmia 10, 20%
Sore throat 17, 35%
COVID - 19 symptom tracker app
covid.joinzoe....
Rash in up to 20% of cases
Conclusion
Children may be a potential source of contagion in the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic
Contradict previous reports, children to be less likely to be the index case within a household
Children with high viral loads and non-specific symptoms including rhinorrhea and cough can likely transmit SARS-CoV-2 as easily as other viral infections spread by respiratory particles
If schools were to re-open fully without necessary precautions, it is likely that children will play a larger role in this pandemic
Potential transmission between children and families should be considered when designing strategies to mitigate the pandemic
In spite of milder disease or lack of symptoms
Immune dysregulation is implicated in severe post-infectious MIS-C
Hypothesis
ACE2 expression in the nasopharynx increases with age
Multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C)
IgM and IgG to the receptor binding domain spike protein were increased in severe MIS-C (P less than 0.001)
In severe MIS-C, more often a broadly elevated IgG response
To a multitude of respiratory viruses, including;
Other coronaviruses, 229E, NL63, HKU1, and OC43
Respiratory Syncytial Virus
Influenza
Several weeks after possible SARS-CoV-2 infection or exposure
MIS-C presented more often with
Viral load the same as other infected children
Fever
Nausea/vomiting
Rash
Less often with symptoms of an upper respiratory tract infection
Criteria for COVID - 19 MIS-C
Fever more than 38oC for more than 24 hours
Laboratory evidence of inflammation
At least two organs involved
No alternative plausible diagnoses and a
Positive serology or antigen test
Exposure to an individual with COVID-19 within 4 weeks prior to the onset of symptoms
Severe cardiac complications, including hypotension, shock, and acute heart failure
Understanding post-infectious immune responses in pediatric is critical for designing treatment and prevention strategies
I don't think this really surprises anyone who has ever been around children.
@Tony Wilson It's called 'being a twat'
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@Tony Wilson sorry to bother you with too much critical thinking, Tony.
Apparently it's news to WHO. Unless it is a hoax, apparently the WHO just released a statement that children under age 12 should not be required to wear a mask. Or specifically, children age 12 and above are required to wear a mask while those under age 5 are not. The statement I saw in Indonesian social media didn't mention ages K-6.
@@incorectulpolitic here's the guy who identified with the Jude Law character from the movie Contagion.
I never understood why people thought kids would be different to regular humans
Kids have a much higher metabolic rate so that infections are generally killed off before they can get sick.
They also have very acute immune systems which they need to build up resistance to all the small and large infections that we all take for granted as adults.
It's not completely understood how they are so good at fighting diseases.
When I was young people deliberately made sure we all had the common diseases at a young age as we could deal with it better.
This was pre most of the current vaccines.
I'm with you Mr Darling... been scratching my head this whole pandemic trying to understand all the voices...
Philip Lindley nothing to do with metabolic rate. How can that have an effect?
They have a very sensitive and reactive immune system, older you get the less responsive your immune system is.
That’s why youngsters are more susceptible to sepsis.
Crawled Out Of Plato's Cave still has nothing to do with metabolism. ACE2 receptors are purely the mechanism of infection. The immune response in children is very different to adults.
Tom Lamb what’s the point of your capital rant?
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like they are waiting for the government experts to catch up with our common sense......
I suppose it depends on the definition of "common sense".
I'm not seeing much in the general population.
Anyone else wish Dr Campbell was in charge of everything? lol Seriously
@Liberty X troll
@Liberty X yes I am not a real person :)
Amen to that! Scientific process is fine, but it does seem like it could be interspersed with common sense. If you know a stove will burn you, it doesn't take a 3-tiered study to confirm your prior knowledge, unless you think your burn is anecdotal!
My Gran and late mother could have told anyone this years and years ago! why are we getting so stupid these days?
Exactly.
It's like people are more stupid in 2020, than they were in 1918/19 with the Spanish flu.
Even then they understood children, face masks and social distancing.
Like head lice. Pretty obvious. Not sure about mosquitos though. Spring is coming shortly in Australia and a bit of a worry.
well see my above comments in reply to other people to see the type of people out there we are dealing with. I cant tell if its idicoy or plain ignorance, either way both is scary.
Followers of this channel and others like Medcram already know all about this. WHO (I remember interviews with Dr Aylwood) greatly downplayed asymptomatic spread. However, Chinese CDC published a paper in Jan/Feb, that they thought it was as high as 50% and classified it as super spreaders. But, then, other hand, its why you do have some people able to shrug off covid19 since they already had exposure to similar past viruses.
Totally agree. Common sense is being completely ignored in favour of ‘following the science’ which isn’t published until peer reviewed and published 3+ months later. Meanwhile, our Grandmas and mothers are stating common sense facts! 🙄
My wife worked in a day care we ended up with every cold and flu that was going around. I got to calling children biohazard s.
Germs with backpacks and legs!
Me too when we did our peadiatric nursing...half the class would go down with something every time the student medics/student nurses did their pead block!!!
No better spreaders. I work in a primary school, everything burns through classrooms.
Bottom line.The government wants kids back in school so parents can go back to work and start paying taxes again.
More like protecting their own interests. The conservatives want a weak government so they can exploit others.
Just look at how they want yo abolish human rights.
How else would you like to fund the NHS?
@@SionynJones The responses have been bipartisan in just about every country including the US when it comes down to it. The relaxed approach or mitigation policies of the US and most of Europe doesn't really have any opposition. Same can be said in containment countries in the Asian region. Different policies leading to currently very different outcomes. The countries with very large populations and lack of resources to respond effectively in containment haven't succeeded with containment but on a per capita basis have less deaths etc. than the alternative policy by far better of countries with plenty of resources.
Yepp got a dose of reality and realized $$$ aren't coming in and way more going out. Tough to keep countries functioning..
It beggars belief that our Prof Whitty has stated that viral transmission from kids to adults is low.
Well, I don't want you to be lonely Doc, so I'll stick around.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain
‘’No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.’’ - Plato
Notice how they are always almost laughing when announcing these tyrannical inhumane ‘’guidelines’’, ‘’rules’’ ?
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
Virus Mania: How the Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion-Dollar Profits At Our Expense by Torsten Engelbrecht(Author), Claus Köhnlein (Contributor): archive.org/details/VirusMania/page/n13/mode/2up
BÉCHAMP or PASTEUR? A Lost Chapter in the History of biology:
www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/biographies/Bechamp-or-Pasteur.pdf
The Kiss My Ass Plan Explained: ruclips.net/video/LSGZ4Hkdyg4/видео.html
Josef Mengele was a 'doctor' surrounded by ''famous' ''accredited'' ''scientists''/ ''academicians'' who ''scientifically' came to the conclusion that the millions of people they murdered were ''not essential''. 😘 Hitler started with ‘’science’’, ‘’doctors’’, ‘’experts’’ and medical tyranny.
The Killing Nurses of The Third Reich: ruclips.net/video/Rz8ge4aw8Ws/видео.html
Ritual masks/Slave muzzles are for the LIErus. You can start boosting immunity by not breathing in your own co2 and other metabolic waste.
Electromagnetic Radiation is Genotoxic: pdfs.semanticscholar.org/3fb0/144129aa2d25615295fa401418baf6dd6f30.pdf?_ga=2.78110804.1928195418.1596472559-448939896.1596472559
Dirty Big Pharma Truth: www.dirtybigpharmatruth.com/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html
Viruses Can't Spread - Why The COVID-19 Virus Doesn't Exist And Is Exosomes (Banned By RUclips): www.bitchute.com/video/hGsTnJ77wh99/
COMMUNISTS/BOLSHEVIKS ALWAYS HAVE THE POLICE AND ARMY PERSONNEL ALL WEAR COMMUNIST/BOLSHEVIK UNIFORMS ON THE DAY AFTER THE ‘REVOLUTION’.
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOT FIRST WERE SMALL AND MEDIUM BUSINESS'S OWNERS, THE ‘’CONSPIRACY THEORISTS’’, OR BETTER SAID THE COINCIDENCE THEORISTS, THE OLD, THE SNITCHES(yup, snitches were/are useful idiots), PEOPLE WHO COULD READ, PEOPLE WHO WORE EYEGLASSES.
CASTRO GOT HIS ORDERS FROM THE BANK OF CUBA WHICH IS OWNED BY WALL STREET WHICH IS OWNED BY SATAN WORSHIPING PEDO CANNIBALS, WHO OWN AND RUN THE MEDIA/IDIOT BOX.
THINK ABOUT IT. THINK HARD. IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
Louis Pasteur Recants His Germ Theory: www.susandoreydesigns.com/insights/psteur-recant.html
Soil Theory vs Germ Theory: members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/soil.htm#Pasteur
TO BE OR NOT TO BE? 150 Years of Hidden Knowledge: www.whale.to/p/bird.html
HOW THE FAKE NEWS ARE MADE: ruclips.net/video/mRRl0LXEwaQ/видео.html
NIH Removes 5G-Coronavirus Study From Website: www.infowars.com/cover-up-nih-removes-5g-coronavirus-study-from-website-following-infowars-expose/
The Ugly Truth About 5G: banned.video/watch?id=5cebbcae896f39001248173
It’s just a mask. It’s just six feet. It’s just two weeks. It’s just non-essential businesses. It’s just non-essential workers. It’s just a bar. It’s just a restaurant. It’s just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals. It’s just until the cases go down. It’s just to flatten the curve. It’s just a few inmates. It’s just to keep others from being scared. It’s just for a few more weeks. It’s just church. You could still pray. It’s just prayer. It’s just until we get a vaccine. It’s just a bracelet. It’s just an app. It’s just for tracing. It’s just to let people know you’re safe to be around. It’s just to let others know who you’ve been in contact with. It’s just a few more months. It’s just some more inmates. It’s just a video. It’s just a post. It’s just an email account. It’s just for protecting other from hate speech. It’s just for protecting others from hurt feelings. It’s just a large gathering but for protests. It’s just a few violent protests. It’s just a little micro chip. It’s just a blood test. It’s just a test. It’s just a scan. It’s just for medical information. It’s just to store a vaccination certificate. It’s just like a credit card. It’s just a few places that don’t take cash. It’s just so you can travel. It’s just so you can get your driver’s license. It’s just so you can vote. It’s just mail-in voting. It’s just a few more years. It’s just a statue. It’s just a monument. It’s just a building. It’s just a song. It’s just a lyric. It’s just an anthem. It’s just a few words. It’s just a piece of paper. It’s just a book. It’s just a movie. It’s just a TV show. It’s just a cartoon character. It’s just a piece of cloth. It’s just a flag. It’s just a dog at a protest. It’s just a religion. It’s just a holiday. It's just your guns. It's just the police. It's just the military It's just your freedoms....gone forever. And "It's just" the way they planned it.
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else awas at hand?...
The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if…We didn't love freedom enough. And even more - we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
The real, true compounds that ARE causing ALL the health problems ARE reported once in a while but COMPLETELY ignored by the satan worshipping mainstream media whores... but sure they do promote the boogey man, never proven, ridiculous, completely out of touch with reality, delusional germ theory(invented and promoted by a satan worshipping pedo freemason):
www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/27/impact-of-air-pollution-on-health-may-be-far-worse-than-thought-study-suggests
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7715309/Light-pollution-driving-INSECT-APOCALYPSE-scientists-claim.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7755847/Breathing-London-air-like-smoking-160-cigarettes-year.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7804993/Living-polluted-cities-make-likely-depressed-attempt-suicide.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7763401/Cutting-air-pollution-brings-health-benefits-WEEKS.html
off-guardian.org/2019/12/03/dont-look-dont-see-pesticides-in-the-msm/
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7810811/Switching-unleaded-petrol-caused-dementia-rates-fall-15-year-Europe-North-America.html
The same deaths that go unreported every year are being given a new diagnosis: co(n)vid19(84). 🤣😂😅
Absoltely genius level to take over the world and literally do whatever you want with the sheeple. They know the sheeple worship their abusers.
There are only 7 viruses:
1A. Virtue Signaling Syndrome; 1. Stockholm Syndrome; 2. Cognitive Dissonance; 3. Milgram Experiment; 4. Normalcy Bias; 5. Learned Helplessness; 6. The worship of the idiotbox/ teLIEvision with the con/scam artists in it; 7. Statism
"You can't reason someone out of something that they weren't reasoned into in the first place" - Mark Twain
Lynda B. in MT
This idiot - is naive- the dummy doctor who accepts Data from everywhere irrespective of where the Data comes from
Lynda B. in MT i'm writing to the drug co. in Oxford asking what's in this vaccine . All drug co.'s have recently been waived of any responsibility of death or harm to people after having this "vaccine" . unborn baby cell lines are already put into vaccines . if you see on You Tube Dr Rshid Buttar , Prof Dolores Cahill , they're very good.
I'm the engineer type, so employers have no second thoughts about replacing us when the job is done. Do as others have done unto you. Goes around, comes around, goes around again.
I guess this confirms what we suspected all along. This is going to be a hard winter for anyone with kids. The schools should not be going back...
The study was debunked by pideatrics in TV yesterday. Check the news.
Or parents could take steps to improve their children’s immune system. Get them on healthy REAL FOOD diets....no sugar, absolutely no processed crap. Supplement them with vitamin D, zinc, vitamin C, and quercetin. Taking these steps will help to strengthen their immune system to ALL typical winter viruses.
CDC wants all kids vaccinated so I'm not surprised they find that children have high viral loads... Kids don't get sick but they want them all to take a "warp speed" vaccine. Who's going to sacrifice their child like that? ITS INSANE
But then there is sweden that never closed elementary schools and barely any children got it.....AND they are done. There is a huge disconnect between what many of you are saying and what is actually happening int he world. Fear does crazy things to critical thinking! Stop letting them control you. Support your body with immune boosting food, herbs, vitamins and keep your freedoms. this is crazy. Kids should go back, maskless!
@@kate1830 your links provided say nothing since our CDC is a captured agency. They are shills for the pharma companies due to the numerous conflicts of interest. Bayh Dole act for one. And money made on vaccines or drugs can go directly to all in govt who had a part in making said vaccine or drug.
Stating that masks save lives is an outright lie. No proof and there are PLENTY of people who were wearing masks that got the COVID and could have passed it on to another to murder them. Just bc sentiment of masks have changed doesn't mean the science has.
And do I need to state the obvious when I say that 'long term effects' cannot be stated since we are in, what, month 5 in the US? How long term is that?? A truer statement would read: people who have recovered seem to have lingering effects. No one can say long term right now unless the definition has changed. I will say this, if some with severe infection had blood coagulation and their brain was starved of oxygen this may explain cognitive dysfunction. Either way it's way too early to even state 'long term'.
16:10: Remember how many months went by before the official institutions finally added loss of smell to their official symptom list.
Dr John, it’s the politics. The economy is more important than lives. Just ask the gov and WHO!!
Dead people don't vote or pay taxes.
@@sharon94503 but elderly are paid pensions and the disabled generous benefits. You'd almost think this was created in a lab by someone with Hitler's mindset.
Jason B. I agree, the elderly are most likely to die from this, the us gov will be saving alot of money that wouldve gone towards their disability and social security payments, and medicare. As a senior myself I thought this may be one reason why they want to minimize the danger and reopen restaurants and businesses.
@@sharon94503 but there are more being born everyday sorry but you are wrong government cares about money not are children
More like their own selfish monetary Interests. The conservatives don't care for regulation rules or law.
But as always they ruined the economy with their dumb polices and lack of action and killed 40k + people. Very clever for a party that claims to understand economy, well what do you expect from people who inherit all their money from daddy.
The thinking behind the children not being spreaders was never a scientific idea more a political one. Get the kids back to school you get the adults back to work. I shudder to think what will happen this winter, little Johnny gets picked up by grandparents, gets a lift with other kids or with half the school on a bus, then parents go to work and spread around there.
Yeah, I don't know anyone who ever thought that children couldn't spread this. Only people on TV.
@@shannons7517 Politicians conveniently heard lower death rates in youngsters as children don't get Covid-19.
Search “Nino Vitale BUSTED” on RUclips if you want to see how dumb politicians can be.
Sending your parents to pick up your kids? Is there a limit to stupidity?
And don't say they can't pick them up because they work, how would they cope with a closed school?
So let's have everyone starve until all the cities are on fire and gangs take your stuff and your life. Money comes from heaven. The government feels your pain. The government will support you and your family for years and years.
Nothing wrong with that idea. :)
I taught kindergarten for 20 years, and spent the rest of my 34 year teaching career in grades 2-8. I got sick two or three times a year with various upper respiratory issues and stomach virus illnesses while teaching kindergarten. The rest of my career I only got mild sinus issues and no stomach virus symptoms. I attributed it to closer contact with the little ones, and also older children wake up and know they are sick whereas a younger one is less likely to say they don’t feel well until they feel very sick, and have been in the classroom for several hours. Often times I would notice they looked sick and the check their temp and realize it was rather high. Now you have taught me that another factor could have been a greater viral load as well.
You’re not alone. We are here with you. Thanks.
I caught it off my 6 year old. We had locked down. Only source. Happy to share my story.
She had caught it at school. We can trace it back to someone returning from italy and testing positive
We finished on the Tuesday, she started coughing on the Friday. We all fell ill a week later.
How's everyone now?
"Only source: did you check the frig ? Never mind, no one does.
Anecdotal evidence is proof of nothing.
School classrooms have been referred to as "the world's largest Petri dishes".
They are.
Yuck
Face it. They build up enormous immunity every sneeze they get. God planned it better than any unidentifiable "Dr." could ever explain. It is in the bible. But "the controllers started God is dead" in the '50's", so you would have no hope and follow the ignorant and malicious evil doers.
@@notcomatose6602 Really? Which god? Man has invented thousands. I doubt you could get them all to agree.
Bigger than cruise ships?
kids have been coming home from school and sharing bugs forever, no surprise there
11 year old daughter is supposed to go back to school next week. Worried at this point not only for her but for us. I'm in Canada
At least you guys are doing a lot better on the numbers than those of us to the south of yourself. Still, I can't fault parents being weary no matter their location. Are they offering virtual as a choice in your area?
@@JessBoldt only with a doctors note or if schools close. When they closed in March they had Google classroom but not the same quality education. Quebec government also launched this site to help learning at home www.ecoleouverte.ca/en/
@@LaughingMan2GIG Yeah, our experience with Google Classroom last spring wasn't fantastic. Great Avatar, btw.
@@JessBoldt thanks got a custom mask made for me i.imgur.com/SiQNgkY.jpg and also for my daughter since she loves studio Ghibli i.imgur.com/c5AW6d7.jpg
In Michigan some schools are opening online only and some are opening in-person with an online option - makes absolutely no sense.
Leave u alone,, you're almost one of the family by now 😂😂😂
As I sit here listening to crackelling fireplace my thoughts wander off. September is coming soon. Make the best of that first autumn month. Catch the soul of September. Mushroom picking in Woods. Long walks in nature. Logfires in nights. Listening to rainfall. Light candles and make fine dinners. Buy autumn flowers and decorate your home. Read good Books. Watch quality movies. Pick the fruits of autumn and make jam. Take walks in Forest and smell that special autumn smell. Watch the stars and light candles dress warm and sit outside in your garden. Just try to catch the essence of September.
Beautiful prescription!
Ok
That sounds lovely. October brings the crispy leaves. Nothing better than a walk through the forest with crispy leaves.
Pirjo Lindqvist yes! probably get very bad, enjoy September 🦋
My dear Pirjo: I like your thoughts very much. Chanterelles then Cep then Terracotta Hedgehogs in the dark Forrest.
A walk home across the big sky moors, then good coffee and mushroom tagliatelle.
There is no Covid in the deep woods, just the Hares and Badgers in their kingdom without people.
They should put shielding back, for school opening up. Vital to save lives.
Children need to get back to school. Being away from each other for 6 months wont have done any good as being with each other boosts immune systems. Students already are more prone to illness in septmeber with only 6 week a part
I’m a shielder and my boys have gone back to school already here in Scotland.
I am so very scared they bring it home
www.gracevanberkum.com/post/we-are-being-played-please-read
@@Justlookin958 I'm a single parent and I can teach from home luckily. Why don't I get a choice so I can protect myself and reduce community transmission? If you think it's just teachers you are *wrong*!! As a single parent I'm worried for my children, surely their outcomes are worse with a dead parent?!!
It is a well know fact that even the best of children at any one times are 90% snot.
My son and his family are home sick with the virus.Their 7 year old got infected with the virus while going to school on the bus.All the children and the bus driver are ill.
Thanks China!
What everyone one the bus they are all sick like unwell or they got tested. What country?
What country are you in?
@@donegal2010able Everyone on the bus are ill.Waiting for test results. Atlanta Georgia. USA
Oyberg Veystein you can also thank all the idiots who attending are COVID-19 parties or refusing to wear masks....
Thank you for your update, Doc! Appreciate your hard work. Continue to stay well and safe.
Theee outbreaks of lice at my son’s’ school last year.
I love my kid’s teachers and I don’t want them put at risk.
I agree, we all need to protect our teachers. They do so much for our children and they deserve better than this!
@@Justlookin958 It's not "either / or " really, is it?
That's transfer of a complex and relatively large creature, those insects. How about something so small you can't see it.
Wayne Deadder so we’re now comparing lice with Covid-19? Say what?
number3 I am drawing a parallel between outbreaks. An outbreak of a parasitic insects was out of the control of my child’s school. Now, in the middle of a global pandemic spread through the air, they are expected to be responsible to keep children safe.
Their track record indicates my children should stay home based on how they handled three outbreaks of lice.
Make sense?
If children go back to school in September, then I can see this virus spreading through families like the grim reaper on speed. Especially when the symptoms children present with are virtually identical to the common cold. It comes down to which is most expendable, the education of our children or the lives of their parents and grandparents.
I totally get your concern Andy - I'm a granpa myself. But it's all a matter of balancing risks. I may have to isolate (again) from my grandsons - parents obviously have no choice.
I hope they do spread it. Lets get it through the community but protect the vulnerable & elderly. Bring on herd immunity. If we close the schools that means NHS staff are also off. That means an overwhelmed NHS and people die anyway.
What I’m taking from this is children can be asymmetric spreaders and schools are reopening with flu season coming in the next couple of months. 🥺🥺🥺
@Lynn Cameron I just wished there were more like me and you. I expose Dr John as a fake fear munger on all his videos but generally just get abuse back from the Sheep.
That's basically it. Plan seems to be;
Send them back so parents can work.
Resulting in outbreaks, which put parents off work because they are ill, some long haul cases, and multiple deep cleans, employees tested, business disruption.
Schools say "told you so" and go back to hybrid learning plan they had in place before they were told all returning.
We'll be meeting our parents again over zoom, in case we carry the virus to them.
@Lynn CameronIs he really not a doctor? I've been watching his videos for months I saw a comment today on Reddit saying he's not a doctor 🤷🏾♀️
@@Hitngan But he is providing FACTUAL evidence.
Psvr Gg he has never claimed to be an MD he has a doctorate in nursing is very well qualified and has been a teacher of nursing for many years working all over the world.
He has explained this before in his early videos.
All he does is present the latest science and put it in language even the dumbest of people can understand.
The naysayers on here are just pushing their conspiracy theories l mean really just look at some of the things they are saying.
I mean you cannot change someone's DNA,there are no microchips able to be made small enough to pass through a hypodermic needle,these things are just pure fantasy pushed by people who are overwhelmed by fear,don't take things at face value do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
The kids were isolated and protected. This is why the data is skewed. School will be a hard lesson, both physically and psychologically.
Yes, why don't people get that the lock downs in most areas were early enough to protect the children! Sending them back to school when we fear an upsurge in cases in the fall, will be like adding fuel to the fire!
@@sandyb1184I always say, and have mailed gov officials, "Any successful action taken during a pandemic will be viewed as an overreaction, all failures on the other hand...".
@@EasyThere Yes, better to 'overreact' than fail to do what was necessary at the time. Most 'overreactions' in retrospect all almost always seen as good decisions! It's only temporary folks!
When children go back to school tfl had mentioned that some buses would be solely for them. If they have high viral loads then the buses will be like petri dishes on wheels!
Keeping them away from each other for six months wont have done many favours. The amount of children who get ill after just 6 weeks away from each other
Scottish schools back last week. Already all sorts of schools closed! Too soon!
@@Aal-2447 closed for what reason?
Good...the sooner this virus gets spread around the better.. hardly anyone dies...we know so much more than lockdown in March and yet we still treat this virus as a mass killer, it isn't
@@decbony probably the teachers phoning in sick with "stress" of covid 😏
When I report back to family something I learned from you, they know you as “ My Little British Doctor “. 😊
Patrick Vallance said "Our aim is to try to reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely; also, because the vast majority of people get a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it". "
They have followed the same line all along, just not mentioned herd amenity as when they first mentioned it people went into shock.
You're right. We never said we were going to wipe this out, it was about keeping it manageable for the NHS. It's about risk management. Now that we're either shielding high risk individuals or they've already all been killed, the risk appears to be within limits. Sounds harsh, but that's the deal.
What about all the families coming home from holidays abroad? They have been travelling in aeroplanes and then the children will go to school, perhaps having caught the virus in the plane.
Perhaps children and staff who have travelled by air should be tested? Just a thought.
The Government basically made the same mistake 3 times.
Bringing tourist back the first time, no control.
Letting them leave, then bringing them back without control!.....Again!
Thank you. As a teacher and parent the mass denial or wishful thinking of policy makers is really worrying
Another interesting video, thank you.
Are there any new studies on long covid? Could this be reviewed please? As a sufferer, and seeing that so many young and fit people seem to be fueling the spikes now, it is I think necessary to raise the awareness of long covid :)
In Finland, our "NHS" did a study with a sample size of 1, that they thought serves as evidence that children don't spread COVID-19. This particular kid just happened to be a zero-spreader. The whole study was just made for the purpose to make it seem like opening schools is safe. Also, masks are only recommended from 15 years up! And to make matters even worse, airborne transmission is not considered to be a real thing. Then importance of aerosol transmission is down-played, instead of focusing on droplet and fomite transmission. So there is no extra ventilation or air purifiers in schools. The aerosols are thought to only be formed by coughing and sneezing. Not from talking etc. Also there is not enough room for social distancing.
While we have one of the best COVID-19 situations in the whole EU area at the moment, I fear that we are going to have severe problems as the schools are opening almost to the old normal. Time will tell, I would like to be wrong with this one, but too many times already, I've been right and the "experts" in our health services have been wrong...
Here in Finland we *used* to have this thing called reilu meininki.
The study was debunked by pideatrics in TV yesterday. Check the news. Schools can open with clear and safety guidlines
@@mario123abc I've heard too many pediatrics just say things from the top of their head. We need actual proper studies like this one. I've also read about many other studies that indicate that the children do spread the disease. If you have actual arguments, or at least a link, I'll be listening, but if just somebody "debunks" this, I'm not going to buy it.
@stephen Krik as far as I know it's the same virus... Our officials don't listen to experiences or studies from elsewhere, though, whether it's USA, Asia, rest of the Europe (except for Sweden), and they need to learn it all the hard way.
Just because you have political issues related, doesn't mean there's not high quality studies coming from the USA. And I've seen many other studies showing similar results in other countries, too, so I don't think this is a politicized study...
Except that study as evidence makes utterly no sense when you look at other countries that did go back or never stopped children from attending school and show children are not vectors nor do they on average not exhibit symptoms. My god. Shutting down has and will kill more.
Of course!!! I work at a school and I think the reason no one has said this till now is A) They did not want people to panic...You know how people are when they think that children are in danger... and B) They want to keep the schools open..So the parents can work and the economy doesn't crash and therefor they have decided to sacrifice teachers and other school workers for the sake of the future generations.... As a person who used to work with adults and changed to working with children, I can tell you it is a no brainer...I almost never got sick, with anything, before I worked at the school...But in the last 10 years since I work there I have been more often sick than in my whole life before! and I am well over 40 , have asthma and a heart problem so , yes , I am terrified
You work in a school so are you worried about the 10% of children that have never had the MMR vaccine and could bring in any of those viruses?
@@rijamor sure
Why are they sending kids back to school. I dont understand what message we are sending our kids. I'm scared for them and myself it's so wrong in my eyes
sadly many parents are pushing for their kids to get back.. young parents young children they feel they are going to be fine so sod the rest of us older folk. I have spoken to our school I am not permitted to continuing shielding and keeping mine home so I had no choice but to leave and home school.
Kids should be at school.
@@Parrotting your showing your - IQ. Because that is a stupid statement.
Crazy Scott
Kids should be at school, it's not difficult to grasp why.
Because they need an education and if pubs and restaurants are open then shut them down and educate our kids
How about free worldwide health care for all headed by real scientists like Dr. Campbell, who are trained experts, not psychopathic dictatorial "leaders" who could care less about our wellbeing? We have but one planet for all the amazing species, time to take it back from the pigs and try to heal it in time. Thank you so very much John! So many of us depend on your input in an age of greed and mistrust!
Stop voting nasty right wing extremists problem solved.
@@UnCoolDad I thought something was wrong, now I understand why. Thanks for that. It amazes me that so many people find him credible, the word 'amateur' comes to mind, or the phrase 'armchair expert'!!
@@UnCoolDad as far as i can see.. he is hitting every point..it's only my opinion, who am I? Hahaha.. i am also listening with a critical mind and trying to assess every information uttered which is our responsibility as listeners...one thing I can say is he is very helpful to me and many people..explains these journals in a less complicated manner as he can.. thats a big help for me and my family ever since the pandemic began.. and lastly, one will know who has a heart for people's lives..that might be one of the reason many of us watch his vids... i think that is something we need from leaders, not just degrees in med or something.. yah..just my opinion though..lol
No such thing as 'free'. Someone has to pay, somehow. Wake up.
@@UnCoolDad i think I disagree..hehe.. and I base it on the infos that I hear with my critical ears .. I kinda came here to absorb as much info that I think is useful and so far i got what I came for. In the end of the day, it's what works and what didn't work..what was predicted to happen and what did not occur.. the content may not be perfect but i am sure it did helped many, cuz it did helped me and I also got a lot of useful information from this channel and I am really really really thankful to Dr. Campbell... and I also think it depends on the listeners, if they find the infos good enough or lack someother things. But as I've mentioned, we should use the things that what works for us and discard those that didn't work so that we continue to improve ourselves... I am kinda vague..sorry for that..hahaha.. People do have alot of differences, yes?..it's kinda interesting..hehe..
Kids are being sent back to school so the parent/parents can go back to work. This will quicken the return of the economy. To use a phrase from John, I hope I am wrong, but in my opinion between school buses, overcrowded classrooms and hallways and the lack of ventilation in some schools, the second spike in inevitable this fall.
41 schools with outbreaks in Berlin, schools only back 2wks!
The infection rate numbers are higher but only because of mass testing and not because of people refusing to wear masks or because the virus is getting worse and that should be the end of statement. However the hyper hysteria of the internet era and politicians and the political scientists forcing their narrative for power relevancy are fueling irrational fear and ignorance among the mass population at a rate never before seen in the history of the world. The most obvious concept and correlational that really should need no explanation is, if there is an exponential Increase in testing of course they will find corona virus everywhere, dig a little deeper and they would also find flu virus and other viral infections far more common and rampant than anyone could ever imagine. Corona viruses are among the most common virus on the planet. There are currently 7 corona virus infections circulating the world that are hiding dormant inside a huge portion of the global population right now as everyone is panicking about this one. These types of viruses are extremely contagious and ubiquitous, in other words absolutely everywhere and impossible to contain. However the good news is, Corona/flu type viruses have a very low level virulence rate for the vast, vast majority of the population with normal functioning immune systems. In fact it is so low our front line defender White Blood Cells snuff the virus at the onset of the infection before any symptoms are even detectable, aprox 80-90% of the time. Acquired antibody T-Cell immunity (or heard immunity) is the only way these types of viral infections ever end (by virulence dilution causing what is known as an endemic) and not by masks, hand sanitizer and vaccination. ruclips.net/video/FU3OibcindQ/видео.html
dean mushtuk there’s high testing levels in Ontario, 30,000+ a day, however our rate isnt increasing like other areas.. so your argument is flawed
A very useful video, thank you. I am a retired teacher but I've shared this with colleagues because there is a real debate going on at the moment in the UK nd here in Spain about safety issues when schools reopen in September. Teachers' unions in Madrid are calling for a strike and saying it is an unsafe working environment. I am always interested in watching your videos in detail, but a shorter version with just the bottom line on this subject for school teachers would be valuable. I have passed on the link to many teachers already. Great work, and thanks again.
I had the Hong Kong flu in '68 when I was a kid. Was bedridden and felt really rotten. No one else in my family got sick.
Me too. I was 6 years old and if my memory serves me well, no one else in my family got it ( mum, dad and brother)
Thank you for all the hard work you put in to making these videos.
I have a child age 13, and she will not be going to school. She is a remote learner.
we all as children survived herd immunity ,its the best thing to build our immune systems
People are getting this virus a second time and it is more brutal. You can't get a good heard immunity if the immunity does not hold in the people.
You are a light to so many, thank you.
Kids are germ incubators, and they're not too self-conscious about hygiene.
@Son Set and scary
Be even worse now theyve kept them away from each other for 6 months.
@Son Set exactly. Immune systems are boosted by crawling around as babies and eating stuff off the floor. Or least it was until recently. Now they get their boost from having their hands sanitised by chemicals and not mixing with others
@@decbony yeah, but in the beginning we thought it was as deadly as Spanish Flu was for children in 1918
Here in the states, it's like a 50/50 battle to reopen schools. Or course that seems to fall along political lines as well. I hope people in the rest of the world aren't so driven polemically to ignore these dangers during a pandemic.
That happens here in Spain.....you can almost guess what people are thinking about the virus simply by the political party they voted for. The human race is all set for destruction if ever a really deadly virus comes along. Getting politicians and politics out of this pandemic will go a long way to finally ending it.
Fool
Then children shouldn't go back to school in September so why are they being told that they are safe to go back ,don't think they know how the virus spreads to be honest,
Stop listening to the msm, read elsewhere..schools should never have shut in the first place
Economy.
They shut the schools because hospitals were at breaking point, overloaded with Covid cases. The aim now is to 'trickle' the viral infections so the hospitals can cope, rather than aiming for low or no infections. Unfortunately, keeping infection rates to a trickle will likely be impossible with kids going back to school for winter... winter was always going to be a big problem with this virus because we're all indoors with largely closed windows and the heating on, so I strongly suspect that,at some point during late autumn and winter, schools may need to be closed again so hospitals don't have to turn away seriously sick patients.
@@decbony They had no choice at the time -hospitals were almost at the point of having to turn away seriously sick patients, so they had to dramatically reduce the infection rate asap. Discussions were already underway amongst medics regarding what criteria they would use to decide who to treat and who not to treat - that is certainly what happened in Italy at the peak of their Covid infections.
@@decbony Shhhhhhh🤫🤫🤫🤫
This study is flawed in several ways.
1) They compared adults in intensive care and compared virus levels in upper respiratory tract. But by the time someone is in intensive care, the viral load has typically dropped, and their illness is now more driven by lower respiratory infection, and by damage resulting from the virus itself. They weren't comparing with children in intensive care, so it's apples and oranges.
2) The children's age range was from 0 to 22. I don't count 22 year olds as children. In fact from puberty onwards children should be consider the same as adults for these purposes.
That makes a huge difference!
The study only had 3 patients...3 !
Three persons...!
@@lachlanbird9688 192 children in study.
@Blue Brigadier Or a possibly flawed study? How can you tell the difference?
WHO breakthrough: ruclips.net/video/QQLKaF68Fo8/видео.html
Playing somewhat of a devil's advocate here because I definitely don't agree with sending children back to school, but what are parents supposed to do if they have to work in order to pay bills? How can we create a safe environment to get the parents back to work while keeping the children home? I think more parents would be willing to do that if they had an alternative.
True. Or what if your child has specific needs and requires support from the school. My son has Aspergers and struggles without the routine of school. He is not very independent with studying online at home. I cannot supervise him constantly because I have other children. My daughter on the other hand, can cope with home learning. Mine will be going back (reluctantly). I do believe we already had covid before the lockdown though, so hopefully they won’t get it. They are all robust and healthy and I make sure they take vitamins.
@@alishanty It is very challenging to be sure but teachers shouldn't be asked to sacrifice their lives or long term health for one year of our children's schooling. If we cannot guarantee teacher's safety or prevent widespread seeding of the virus in the community, in person school should not be considered. One year of your children's education is not worth the potential death of countless others.
Sandy B I do agree. I wish the government would be more honest, try and make things safer for kids and teachers (all they are doing as far as I’m aware, in secondary schools is keeping year groups to an area of the school each. ) No masks and I don’t think social distancing will be observed. It was ok when we went into the school for reviews recently as only a couple of people in a room and windows and drs were open for ventilation, but the weather was warm. I can’t see how they will keep classrooms ventilated when it gets cold 😟. The government are not on top with testing, tracking and tracing. They allowed the virus to get too much out of control.
Eddie's Magic Crackpipe nothing to do with the fact that dentists have been closed for months? People haven’t been able to have routine check ups that spot problems early. I’ve seen requests from people online asking for tips on dealing with dental pain at home because they can’t see a dentist. My son was supposed to have an orthodontist appointment in May, it’s postponed until November! A friend of mine has only just been able to get an appointment with an emergency dentist, because she was in pain. Nothing to do with mask wearing 🤣. They were only brought in a month a go and then, only for when you’re in shops or public enclosed spaces. Said friend hasn’t even been wearing a mask, because she doesn’t believe in them. Dentists wear masks more than the patients ever have! Have they all got tooth decay too?
The government can give you some of your money back that they’ve borrowed. They can reallocate funds from things like Space Force and help you or I to not have to make hard choices that potentially impact your life/death.
Other developed countries are doing it.
Are you live streaming these videos elsewhere? You often speak of “the same people watching”. I would like to join this group! I really appreciate these videos. It is not often AT ALL that something on RUclips can keep my attention for 30+ minutes. Thank you for this. I really appreciate your efforts.
how did you cope for a whole 30 minutes? i can barely do 2 or 3 mins before my eyes glaze over. he should put some dancy music in the background
@Angelica Davis if you have been watching then you are a part of the group
When my son is in daycare, I get everything he gets. Since we've had him out, he and I have not been sick.
sandy5791 well that’s that proved then. Scientists close your labs! No more evidence required.
number3 lol... I’m just stating what I noticed with an N of one and in talking with my other mom friends. I trust and value the work of the docs I work with in the medical field. I work in healthcare and the head of the hospital where I work actually told me that the pediatricians couldn’t wait for kids to go back to school and daycare so they’d have something to do.
sandy5791 you’re right, I was way too sarcastic. I apologise.
If those up to 0-22 get it, they can have heart and other permanent damage. That was on CBS news.
Thank you Dr C, I’m a bit late on catch up, so I am very glad that this is on video. 👍. In the UK the governments message is clear, they (quite rightly) think it’s best to get the children back in school. The message headlines, is that there is a very low risk of severe illness from COVID in children (I cannot argue with that). However, very silent on the risk of children spreading infection to others. ......... At least it won’t take long for the implications of this to take effect (or not) in the community. I feel very sorry for the teachers, etc who are trying to put measures in place to lower the risk factor and so glad that my line of work is predominantly around adults and any work around children is largely remote working. Take care everyone, be safe and thank you Dr C for your tireless efforts it’s very much appreciated. 👍☮️
In the USA: First case of MIS-C in children in West Virginia. MIS-C cases in Louisiana rise to 57. MIS-C cases reported in Tulare County, CA. Children can get this serious Inflammatory disease about 2-5 weeks after being exposed to the coronavirus. All parents need to Google "MIS-C", know the symptoms and get immediate medical attention for an infected child.
Would please tell the Irish govt because they aren't up to date :(
Northern Ireland just as bad XX
I'm currently having thoughts of not allowing my 5 year old to start school on Wednesday. Ireland.
@@danhamjam tell me about it my 8year old starts Wednesday as well up north here really worried about it xx
@@danhamjam honestly I wouldn't ;)
Ireland here too. Have seen the school response plans. Smoke, mirrors and magic thinking, as per the DES guidelines. My two are going to be homeschooled.
I read a report about the 1918 pandemic and how schools being reopened was a strongly debated issue even back in 1918.
Thank you for your honesty and information. Our Government is lacking in it.
My two children aged 12, and 13 have not attended school since February 25th. For the precise reasons you explain so well👍
There is nothing I can do to convince my parents to wait before sending my brother back to school. Even before this pandemic he was prone to often getting bronchitis. He’s had pneumonia 3 times before and is only 14. I’ve been telling them to at least give him vitamin D. My father is in his 60s and has high blood pressure. I hate to admit but I am afraid and scared I feel like I’m seeing a big mistake being made at the wrong time of year right before winter. I pray everything will be okay.
I feel like I have no control over the situation at hand. I walked past a high school gym with large non opening windows where I saw many youths playing basketball with no masks!
That is a school near my brothers.
They say hindsight is 20/20...but I hope I am not right and that my fears do not come true. I am afraid of winter...
Hi. He is old enough. Talk to him and tell him about vitamin D. Buy him the pills and he might take them. Show your parents Campbells videos. I wish you good luck
Pirjo Lindqvist thank you very much :)
Aramis3737 thank you for the support!
Your a good sibling, hope you will be listened to. You can get vit D spray mostly mint, (amazon) easier to take hold under tongue or side of mouth it works much better as it then goes fast into blood stream & avoid possible poor absorption in the gut, which your brother could be more prone to. I also had frequent bronchitis & chest infections till my specialist (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome - hypermobile type, a connective tissue disorder which causes multi-systemic problems inc MCAS - Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (allergic type inflammation of immune cells, so also already take Vit C, quercetin & prescribed meds) which I wasn't diagnosed with till 40 although born with it as Drs haven't been trained enough & wrongly think that type is as rare as the other types are) recommended liquid vit D he will need halve adult dose which my specialist said 2000ui daily but need to lower spring summer when get sun, I didn't know 1st yr & went too high. If? GP will test level ideally to be sure it's lower. Mine was 19, ideally want 50-60. Don't want to go higher than 100. Some with #LongCovid symptoms with or without the heart inflammation are being diagnosed with MCAS. Dysautonomia (also a common comorbidity I have). We are seeing this happening in our communities on twitter & fb. Take care
Tell your father to eat lots of kale and broccoli, the broccoli leaves are edible also..
The first year we were married I had more Virus type Illness than the any of the years before or after. My late wife was a 3rd grade teacher in a large urban school district. It took many months for my Immune system to get up to her level of protection as a teacher. Exposed to the latest in circulating Virus's. After that most year's were about normal maybe even less and my job had a lot of exposure to the public as well.
Thank you again for your science based information. And I always “stick with you”! The time spent is worth it. Plus, wouldn’t want you to get lonely.
Once again brilliantly presented DR Cambell many thanks for all ur hard work :)
Why do you think the UK goverment are saying SCHOOLS are SAFE ?
Hello my friend hope all is well. Thank u for this as i have a 2yr old at nursery and am scared as its only me and him. take care much love. Xx
I never could through this whole thing understand why so many people were saying children were unlikely to spread it. They bring home every cold/flu from school and spread it everywhere. They are cute lil snot tanks. How often have you held a child who is unwell and they cough and sneeze right in your face?
Hope you are doing well :)
Thank you for your fascinating videos that I watch daily since I discovered your channel in January.
Scotland schools have been back for two weeks now, the cases have gone up in Scotland, seventy four today and a few weeks ago it was four to ten new cases per day, they blame a pub but are they right? I doubt it.
Its just the start of what will be seeding around the world by sending children back to school during a pandemic!
@Michael Parrott-MacLeod Yes, we don't know for sure, so its best to err on the side of caution!
Aberdeen football players. Nine of them.
The danger is that schools link multiple cohorts together. Each family is a cohort but a working parent links this cohort to co-workers which again link with their families and of course children's at schools do the same but across multiple professions and as some professions are more at risk than others, greatly increase their risks. College age children are a more isolated but rather large cohort group and often bring the disease through part time jobs to service industries. I'm surprised no one has thought of collecting the parent employments and locations of employment to assess and limit risk in dividing the cohorts at schools. The students of parents that work at a given factory or meat-packing plant are obviously best separated from other cohorts etc. Such classifications could be seen as class discrimination but hey this is a pandemic that we're fighting...
The problem with your opinion?
You're using *logic* !
(I agree, btw)
Sensible idea. For those under exam years, no reason you can't keep the children on the same bus/area in the same class. Harder to apply to exam years as they have already chosen subjects, and are moving around the corner.
Alternatively, teach bus children (under the age of 14) locally at community centers, Church halls, sports halls, etc. Use every substitute teacher/qualified teacher you can lay your hands on. You've automatically achieved social distancing in secondary schools. Work can still be set by the school for the sub to follow, and get each year group in one day a week for practical subjects.
Those 14+ are working towards GCSE, A Levels, Btec, etc so should attend, in smaller classes.
@@sharonsloan Presumably, the older students with variable schedules would require greater time between classes and staged release and entry to spread out the load in the hallways which probably means altering the schedules or adding time to the day. If the students requests are early enough, computers could sort out the schedule to optimize the traffic in the hallways. To a certain extent, such students being older can assume more of the responsibility to wear masks and proceed in designated lanes with social distancing. No solution will be perfect, the question is what measures will make the public feel that enough measures has been taken. Of course, regardless of what's done, there will be some spread of the disease at schools and this may adversely affect community spread and we have to be prepared for that with testing, and contact tracing.
@@johnwang9914 the problem with those years working for GCSE and A Levels are shared education, two schools sharing resources, so could be in one school and class cohort, then a different class cohort for a different subject. Staggered classes will sort the traffic in hallways, but you can't be in the same cohort all day if going to three or four different cohorts over two buildings for different subjects. Masks probably will be worn in corridors, but effectively the bubble is year group sized, not class sizes for those 14+ due to how the system works.
Normally good, as sharing resources between schools doubles choice of subjects. Now though, not so good.
@@sharonsloan Yes, the greatest danger if returning to schools are that cohorts are being linked. Even with just elementary schools where the children remain in one class and are taught by one teacher, it is still linking classes to families and to the professions of the parents. Yes, there are progressively more cohort linkage as students choose their own schedule and between schools as resources are shared but that doesn't mean we can't limit the cohort sharing simply by including additional information from outside the schools such as where the parents work. If a student uses another schools resources hence linking a cohort at one school with a cohort at another, had the students in both of these cohorts had parents working at a given factory then they were already linked to begin with so really linking them on the education front should not increase the risk as much. Yes, all this linkage is bad, I'm just saying that by increasing the information available, the cohort selections could then minimize the linkage of cohorts to overlapping linkages hence no real increase in linkage. It does require more personal information be made public so there are societal risks in this optimization but we are talking about trying to make a bad situation better. The only safe decision from the perspective of COVID would be to remain with distance learning but were we to accept the risks of reopening schools, it's about how to reduce the risk not about making it absolutely safe as that can only be done with distance learning.
But, but.... our Dear Orange Leader said that "Kids are immune."
Teachers and parents and grandparents are not immune! Of course, we all know children are not immune either, just less likely to show symptoms or develop severe disease.
He was correct, it is not risky on children, flu is 100 times riskier on children than covid19. We have to live with covid19, you cant avoid it, you can only delay it, just shield the elderly and isolate them
The orange leader has said many contradicting things. Remember when he suggested shooting up disinfectants. This man is not your friend.
Arline Taylor you’d be better off if he was!
Arline Taylor be didnt suggest infjecting disinfectants, dont take it out of context and dont repeat media’s lies like a phony
I remember when the director general of health in new Zealand told everyone children don't carry it or pass it on on national tv months ago and knowing he was wrong I even mentioned it on here way back then. The WHO gave that bad advice I believe (What a shock)
Surely months ago, that children passed it on, was something you (and many others) thought was the case. So the science has now vindicated this position. You can only now say that you know that previous advice was wrong.
@@robbristow I knew it was wrong from day 1.NZ government health advisors just wanted to keep schools open and listened to the WHO for advise which is a bad idea.
Matowix, can you please show evidence of Dr Bloomfield saying that. Otherwise it is just hearsay. Thanks, there are enough roumers around without discrediting Dr Bloomfield.
@@donnamarie3617 it will be on archive on RUclips somewhere.
Matowix don't badger any person to use search who couldn't spell 'rumors'.
Thank you Dr John just confirmed what l thought very interesting.
Every parent knew this in February.
I'm aware of two teaching assistants who have given notice, low pay and right in the firing line. As a grandparent I have suffered with colds every year with grandchildren bringing it into our home, not a huge problem usually but this year we will be in quarantine and waiting for a vaccine.
Good for you! Chat with your grandchildren online! Help them with their schoolwork or get them to 'teach' you what they learned at school. If their school's shut down, you can help them with their home learning. Be safe so that you can be in their lives for many, many years to come!
Suspect many will be doing the same.
They have been looking for a vaccine for flu for 79yrs and still not found one. . . YET. . . within months of this strain of flu. . we have a vaccine. . WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. . . www.bitchute.com/video/nXj78bwFiN1m/ . . . . www.bitchute.com/video/bKNWFzFI6blZ/ . . it's not about covid
@@ClotEastwood the domainant flu strains mutate fast, so a vaccine every year. Flu isn't a Corona virus, it a DNA virus. Covid 19 is an RNA virus that, thankfully, mutates slowly. There is vast amounts of money to be made in a covid vaccine, hence the speed.
The amount of ACE2 (SARS-CoV-2 receptors) in the cell membrane will not necessarily correlate with the expression levels as measured by quantitative mRNA analysis (e.g. Northern blotting)
So the littles are like medieval plague rats??? :o(
You mean 'vermin'? Lol
Sheep
I work in a school. They are. Once the bug is in (usually through a parent sending in a poorly child), it spreads like wildfire through the class.
Covites, that what I call them! Lol
its a scary prospect for September especially when news outfits have irresponsibly exploited the uncertainty in the pandemic as fact.
Sionyn Jones I’m more concerned with the lack of responsible leadership in our country (USA). And the intentional destruction of the USPS.
Schools seem to be an excellent platform for mass testing, both teachers and students.
If only the US had the quality of tests that South Korea had.
Hands off the children
Excellent breeding ground too :(. I do hope they only use the saliva test on the little ones. The nose swab could be traumatizing.
Exactly. Twice weekly testing of everyone in the building using the saliva test. Will need funded, but it's probably cheaper than a widespread outbreak.
Hopefully better organised than the exam results
Love listening to your soothing voice Dr Campbell...my husband recognises your voice from another room and says ‘is that the good Doctor you’re listening to’...it is indeed 😍
I have been enjoying looking after my grandchildren over the summer holidays. I am now dreading them going back to school. What is the best plan of action? If there can be one.
Can parents refuse to send their children to school?
The government in uk are fining parents...although their is a petition to stop this going around at the moment.
The risk is for you. Not them. Age is the worst risk factor. Anyone over 70 is the most vulnerable. You and the kids have to avoid physical contact. That’s the risk moment for you. School is the least problematic situation for the kids. Be safe.
You might look into the laws where you are and consider homeschooling. There are many resources available now to school kids at home--and there were even a number of quality resources back in the old days when it was less mainstream and we didn't have the Internet. I was homeschooled from 1st grade all the way through high school and am so thankful for the high-quality education I received.
@@amymoohan8982 Thank you Amy I do think that if anyone in a school has to be tested then they should isolate and NOT wait for the test result I believe that it can be transmitted before the symptoms appear .
I realise that would be very disruptive.
@@amymoohan8982 Thanks Amy. I hope the government takes notice.
Imagine the Covid-19 stats come early October, it could overwhelm the NHS.
Do you have any vested interest in vaccine manufacture and administration ?
Immensely important. So serious with schools oppening. Some teachers here in USA are protesting stating returning to schools are not safe. Also, if children get the annual flu vaccination may also make them more susceptible to the covid19 virus.Thanks Dr. Campbell this information needs to be broadcast on mainstream media not singularly on RUclips. You are much appreciated. 🙏
Possible side effects. Like all vaccines and medicines, this vaccine can cause side effects, although not everybody gets them. The following side effects were reported with the use of M-M-RVAXPRO:
Frequency Side effect Very common (may affect more than 1 in 10 vaccinees) Fever (38.5°C or higher).Injection-site redness; injection-site pain; injection-site swelling. Common (may affect 1 to 10 in 100 vaccinees) Rash (including measles-like rash). Injection-site bruising.
Uncommon (may affect 1 to 10 in 1000 vaccinees) Nasal congestion and sore throat; upper respiratory tract infection or viral infection; runny nose.Crying.Diarrhoea, vomiting.Hives.Injection-site rash. Not known (Frequency cannot be estimated from the available data)* Aseptic meningitis (fever, feeling sick, vomiting, headache, stiff neck, and sensitivity to light); swollen testicles; autism; infection of the middle ear; inflamed salivary glands; atypical measles (described in patients who received a killed measles virus vaccine, usually given before 1975).
Swollen lymph nodes.Bruising or bleeding more easily than normal. Severe allergic reaction that may include difficulty in breathing, facial swelling, localised swelling, and swelling of the limbs.Irritability
Seizures (fits) without fever; seizures (fits) with fever in children; walking unsteadily; dizziness; illnesses involving inflammation of
the nervous system (brain and/or spinal cord). An illness consisting of muscle weakness, abnormal sensations, tingling in the arms, legs, and upper body (Guillain-Barré syndrome).
Headache; fainting; nerve disorders which can cause weakness, tingling, or numbness; eye nerve disturbances. Discharge and itching of the eyes with crusting of eyelids (conjunctivitis). Inflammation of the retina (in the eye) with changes in sight. Deafness.Cough; lung infection with or without fever. Feeling sick (nausea). Itching;
inflammation of the fatty tissue under the skin; red or purple, flat, pinhead spots under the skin; hardened, raised area of the skin; serious illness with ulcers or blistering of the skin, mouth, eyes, and/or genitals (Stevens-Johnson syndrome). Joint pain and/or swelling (usually transient and rarely chronic); muscle pain.
Burning and/or stinging of short duration at the injection site; blisters and/or hives at the injection site. Generally feeling unwell (malaise); swelling; soreness.Inflammation of blood vessels.
*These side effects were reported with the use of M-M-RVAXPRO or with the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine manufactured by Merck & Co., Inc., or with its monovalent (single) components, during post-marketing use and/or during clinical studies...
Yet schools here in the Netherlands reopen like normal, with 1.5m from teachers, stricter hygiene, coughing and sneezing in the elbow, hand sanatize upon entry and some even use facemasks.
Aerosoles are discussed and proven has been that 'children' of 15+ can still infect adults as much as adults eachother, between them they dont have to keep 1.5m because of it being so mild and 1.5m from adults must be kept.
Edit: ventilation will be a must thing tho, otherwise the RIVM says reopening won't be smart or safe enough.
Ventilation. Key factor. Children are hardy, they can cope with lower room temperature. They are outside playing in snow, rain, wind, during break and dinner, they don't care. Open windows, layer up.
@@sharonsloan yeah
Hi Dr Campbell,I have just discovered that Nadia Sawalha from ITV's Loose Women has watched your excellent video's on you tube and likes and trusts them as much as myself how amazing😉
" kids don't spread this virus " always sounded wrong to me , how has this information taken so long to be understood ?
VicRedshaw Because the more a lie is repeated the more likely it is to be believed.
@@michaelreeney81 was it a lie , or incompetence ?
@@vicredshaw1155 I believe incompetence. The only official statements I heard were along the lines of, "there is no evidence that asymptomatic children communicate the virus."
Too many people take that as "children do not communicate the virus" because they do not understand, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
@@Sylvan_dB you could well be right , the current UK govt is well known for its distain for nonsense such as " facts and details " !
I am a teacher of ES in the USA. This is very important for teachers to see and understand.
Going back to school is a big mistake, I wish it wasn't, but this just proves it. In for rough winter ???
Dr. John, I stayed around, wouldn't want you to get lonely.
Thanks for what you do!
PS: The interview with Trevor was awesome. Thanks for your determination to get an interview about circumstances in SA. Trevor, thanks for being brave and speaking out.
We already had to deal with this in southern hemisphere, as only had the 2 week winter hols in July. Schools shut from March to June ish. Online learning. Schools shut down now as cases come up.
Thank you form Bali, Indonesia Dr Campbell. It is comforting to me to follow your evidence based reasoning in these dire times. Knowing the facts comforts me no matter how much I don't like them.
"@2.39 " Dear John, greetings... from Kuala Lumpur, I will .....and have been the past 5-6 months daily without fail. ! "stick with me otherwise I'll get lonely "😂😂😂
5 AM in Bangkok with my coffee...I'm still with you Dr John..Remembering 12 years of school at my country school I had almost perfect attendance..Rarely missed a day due to illness..But..I lived on a dairy farm and drank raw milk...
Perfect plan for spreading !! Who is flying this space ship ??
Very interesting information. You are a gem for providing us this valuable information.
Everyone remember to take your Vitamin D. Please do it now. Thank you. Have a good day.
I wonder why no one in the mainstream news ever talk about Vitamin D or lack of it.
Thanks for the reminder! (Will take mine now!)
If you're low on Vitamin D-3, Vitamin C and Zinc, any virus can take you down.
Don't worry folks once Joe Biden wins they'll suddenly reassess the numbers and drastically downgrade the severity of the virus
@@polytaku
Or, why it's not tested as a matter if course, especially in children? (I suspect they have higher "D")
Thank you so much for the great informative updates :)
Good Day Doctor :) " I'll get lonely" lol Very good info always and also a few chuckles :) Grateful for your work :) 💖from Alberta
Children were the most shielded at the beginning. Schools shut down and parents kept kids home. My grandkids are going to be schooled at home this year. A few of them are doing a little outside activities but with precautions.
@Dr. John Campbell I share your concerns about children, daycares, and schools are petri dishes when it comes to viruses. One of my very top concerns is that my 6yr old granddaughter catches this virus and it throws her into being diabetic, which is a great possibly because I myself have Type 1 diabetes. My son God rest his soul didn't have diabetes when he passed away however there is always a chance that my granddaughter could become Type 1 diabetic and this dreaded virus could be the thing that could throw her in to becoming diabetic
Don't feel lonely Dr. John Campbell I'm here everyday along with many others watching your videos
Thank you for another informative video
Much love to you from Georgia, USA
Jocelyn Stuff why do you think she can get t1d...? I thought you could get t2d after an illness
@@aprilapril2 her immune system could turn on itself and attack the pancreas and kill the cells that are needed for the pancreas to make insulin.
It also has to do with genetics seeing how I am Type 1 diabetic my son carried the gene for diabetes and could have very well passed it on to my granddaughter
@@aprilapril2 It is currently thought that Type 1 or type 2 diabetes could possibly be caused by a viral infection, most commonly by enteroviruses. We tend to focus on the acute symptoms but need to also understand the long term consequences of viral diseases.
Do you feel as worried about people roaming round with firearms killing children?
Cardinal Fang we don’t seem to have many gun toting nut jobs here
My husband was sick last February with a fever, extreme muscle pain, and bronchitis. Tested in Urgent Care, he tested negative for the flu. My 11 year old had the same symptoms a few days later. Both of them developed a rash on hands and around the mouth. I thought they had hand, foot, and mouth disease. They both also had diarrhea which is why I expected that. But they hadn't been in environment conducive to hand, foot, and mouth. Weeks later, my son developed a rash that on his trunk. Could have been heat rash I guess, but I'm going crazy with how this Covid-19 seems to have every symptom a mom could worry about. We homeschool, thank Goodness but looks like we'll have to social distance from the little boy next door again when school starts. I'm growing tired of this virus. God bless those more affected than we have been.