First RELIABILITY Issue... | Aprilia RS 660
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- First RELIABILITY Issue... | Aprilia RS 660 (SK XIII)
Alright guys....it FINALLY happened...My first reliability issue with the Aprilia RS 660. Really not sure if it is something that I did, a physical part issue, or electronics? Comment your thoughts down below! Help me figure this out :)
SK XIII, hey buddy sorry to find out that you have an issue with your RS660. I still don’t have any issues with mine. I sent your request and video to my contact at my dealer in Miami Florida. I’m waiting to hear back as soon as I know more I will let you know. Ride safe. Talk to you soon.
OK I got a reply back from my dealer. Definitely not a reliability issue it’s a mechanical issue. They had it happen to a couple of
RS660s and also a couple of RSV4’s. It’s very simple, it’s only a sensor and it is under warranty so just take it in get the sensor swapped out and you’re good to go, Fixed and resolved. You are correct when you have that red “R” it definitely means that your quick shifter is not operable/not working. Ride safe brother. Hope this helps you.
Wow brotha, this was a tremendous help!! Glad you're so close to your dealer out there! I have been seeing that other people have had this issue, even when stock/no mods so this is reassuring. Appreciate you!
@@SK_XIII yeah, you need to come down here to South Florida close to Fort Lauderdale/Miami area bring your bike and will go right out. Have two of the same. Looking bikes going right down the street would be awesome. And on top of that they both sound the same lol.
Don’t forget to give me a shout out on your next video, lol Spitfiya.rs660
just looking out. 👍🏼👍🏼
@@SK_XIII 👍🏼👍🏼💯💯💥💥
@@Spitfiya.rs660 🤣 next video uploaded today to release next week, but definitely will on the one after that. Is this your insta? One day I'll make my way out to FL for sure!
@@SK_XIII Spitfiya.rs660
So sorry to hear about that, perhaps I’ll keep my mt 03 after all. Hope the problem gets resolved without any warranty argument.
Haha my MT03 felt bulletproof. Thanks G!
I think R = reserve shift or GP shift activated. I think might because you tune the bike with Gabro Racing Map and it got bugged. Maybe try to reflash it.
Good idea! was trying to think of electronic issues and I thought about the flash too
It’s really simple. Two methods available to you right now. As it is still under warranty take it back to the dealership. Firstly the exhaust won’t bother them (ever seen a HD with a stock exhaust as they are extremely quiet from the factory). Plus the dealership can not possibly tell (or try and find out) that your ECU has been altered. It will possibly be a simple code that they will check and erase. If, you are still concerned about potential warranty issues by yourself an OBDLINK2. At around $100 it’s a good investment as the onboard diagnostic unit will read faults so you can see what the red light means and if required it can also clear it (it’s basically the same unit the dealerships use anyway). It can also be used to reprogram your ECU (you called it tune) as they use these devices to also adjust fuel maps and throttle position setting (amongst others) on bikes with Ride by wire throttles. They don’t work on bikes with cable throttles from a tuning perspective however do still read and cancel warning indicators just in case. I have a couple of these units as I have several bikes and cars and are my initial go to device before going to the dealership. Also great if you are past the warranty period to helps save money. I hope this helps. Reach out if needed and I’ll give you the exact unit specific to your bike. 👍😎🇦🇺
this is great mate! I have the UpMap, which reads codes too, so will check it out as I am going through everyones advice on here. Yeah I am thinking that if this issue persists, best to just take it into the shop and see what they say about warranty 😎
@@SK_XIII 👍😎. The UpMap is just a brand of an OBDLINK with some tailored features minus some of what a 2 will do (I have it on one of my Ducati’s). I’d remove all visual signs that the engines map has been altered. Set ECU changes they won’t be able to tell and I wouldn’t be concerned with the exhaust. Use you device so at least when you do go to the dealership they won’t be able to BS you (or as much) as I heard stories about many inexperienced riders being taken advantage of from a financial perspective. Good luck.
@@marcusgeorge1825 some wisdom right here. will keep it mind brothaaa
I race this bike in Wera. I had this happen about once every 5-8 times I started the bike. I usually could just turn the bike off and back on, and then the shift icon would go from orange to black and the quickshifter/autoblipper would work. I eventually fixed this issue by getting a new quickshifter wire. I didn't have to get the mechanical piece, just the wire that plugs into the wire harness, and runs to the shift rod (and is held in place with 3 small screws). I've had a few race weekends since, and I haven't had any issues with quickshifter. I highly recommend you get a new quickshifter wire/electronic piece.
thanks for sharing! will definitely look into it. Do you have the part # by any chance?
@@SK_XIII 2D000690 is the part number for both the wire/sensor AND the metal piece. I just replaced the wire/sensor and not the piece. But I don't see where you can buy just the wire/sensor from AF1. You might get lucky on ebay, if someone is parting out a bike.
@@josefbittner6198 Ayee thanks brotha! appreciate you
I could be way off, but in a forum for the tuareg 660 people have had quickshifter issues when a wire running down by the quickshifter, for the quickshifter, has broken inside. The wire could intermittently connect/disconnect as well.
Ooo that's interesting! but yeah ultimately leads to electrical issue rather than mechanical
I have a 2022 Tuono Factory that I recently bought and has about 900 miles on it. I have had the QS lock out at random times. Turning the bike off doesn't always remedy it, as you've seen. I had the bike in for the initial break in service and talked to the tech about it. He wasn't sure what was going on. Well, the day after my service, it went out again and I emailed them pics and video of the dash. They had me come in and they replaced the module under warranty. I have only driven it about 50 miles since, and it has been fine. I don't think they will care about your exhaust/tune as this is a known issue and unrelated. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing this!! Still have plenty of warranty left on the bike so if the issue persists, going to take it in like you did
make sure the shift lever is securely (and properly) attached to the transmission end - any looseness can confuse the QS sensor... and as another said below, the "R" indicator is for a "reverse" (GPshift) shift pattern I believe... try disabling/enabling the QS in the dash menu.
Solid! gonna look into this more, thanks mate
@@SK_XIII did you get a fix? was that it?
That is odd? I have had the same issue on my 2021 Tuono 660. What triggered it the first time was I tried to start the bike in gear with the kickstand down "my bad". I shut it off for a minute and I still had the same red gear. I tried to look it problem on my phone and five minutes later it was gone. The second time it happened I was warming the bike up. Ridding it in neutral down the hill from my house. While rolling in neutral I put it in gear and got the red sprocket again. I rode it to the gas station to meet my friend and after getting gas and starting it five minutes later it was gone. It seems that the electronics are temperamental but, in my case, it has aways corrected itself. So to all of you have not done the above don't.
thanks for sharing mate! very temperamental QS 🤣 Better than it not working at all I guess
That is something minor.This will be solve by the dealer in no time.DO not mess with it,let the dealer solved.That what warranty is for.
before i finish the video this happened to my 2021 zx6r my bike kicked an engine code flashed like you are saying, QS didnt work and it was because my kickstand spring fell off and my kick stand was down while i was riding( didnt know it fell off someone behind me told me) and the kickstand put my bike in limp mode could ride normally just not fully
take it to a specialized shop look around all u need is someone with the correct equipment to diagnose it!! best of luck dude mine cost me like 200$ to fix
Hahaha to be honest, I actually checked my kickstand first when I got home since I had heard that it can cause issues in many different bikes. Glad you were able to get yours fixed mate!
@@SK_XIII thanks brother hope the same for you 🙌
Glad to say I have no problems with mine (yet). But I come to the same conclusion as you really. It’s not mechanical. I could be the cable to qs as somebody mentioned. Or something with the tune. Maybe load the stock one, and if it helps try to go back to aftermarket tune again. Also somebody mentioned check all bolts and yellow dot’s still aligning. I hope you will schare the solution.
My next step is to play around with different tunes. It really does not seem mechanical to me at this point. Will keep everyone updated!
do u think that someone living in italy will find the parts quicker?
genuine question
As much as I love this bike I just can't move away from Japanese durability. I've put 60,000 + miles on GSXR's with oil changes etc lol
Hard miles too-- track and twisty bombing.
Definitely have to pay a premium with the Italian bikes it seems like. I guess sometimes it is worth it, sometime nahhh
@@Tom-90210 happy to hear !
I know that the lock nuts on either side of the qs need to be snug and if they are loose the sensor will think that there is a problem. I hope it is something silly and easy.
with all the vibrations on the bike, that doesn't surprise me lol
Sorry to hear that, but I bet it's something not difficult to fix.
Have you searched this issue on any Aprilia forums?
Been researching yeahhh, finding multiple leads so gotta explore now
The minor performance increase from a tune to be had out of this already highly strung 100hp 2cyl is not worth the increase of reliability issues. I’m looking to get a 2023 rs660 soon. I’ve learned long ago never to buy the first couple years of a completely new machine whether it be car or bike unless you have the patience/resources to deal with issues. Because yours is tuned I won’t count this as a point against the reliability in my eyes, I wouldn’t dare tune this bike til 2024-25 when the bike community as a whole has more experience & knowledge with them. I want to see some high mileage ones.
Well I was thinking about a Tuono 660 but I think I’ll stick with Japanese. I just don’t have the patience to deal with issues like this.
Wouldn’t dare buy one until 24-25 but looking to get a 23 soon…. Hmmmm 😅
This usually happen when you turn off and turn on the bike in gear for me. If I put it in neutral, turn it off and on, it fixes the issues.
Yeah I remember reading that with the race map the bike automatically learns if the bike is in gp shift mode or not. Perhaps it is incorrectly detecting that the bike is set up for gp shift.
@@Knoxvillemoto Thought the same initially too, but then its the blinking red while riding that's "different" from the normal constant red R for GP shift :/
gonna check this idea out too! thanks mate
which year is your bike? is it 2021?
1st off I Love my rs660 But….
I’ve had a very small oil leak (3-4 drops on my garage floor) and my dealer(Reno power sports ) got it fixed under warranty
Glad you got it fixed! what was causing the leak?
Oil pump housing gasket.
@@troysaylors2177 damn gaskets...lol
Sad! I hope it's an easy fix.
fingers crossed!
Are you on Aprilia forums?....lots of good info over there
I haven't looked there for a while now, but good idea, should comb through once in a while!
Have you tried running it through calibration since then?
I was trying to figure out how to do this for the RS, wasn't able to find anything in the service manual. Any thoughts?
@SK_XIII if i recall, go to your menu-> select calibration->(should say calibrating on the dash) ride at 25 mph *in second gear* for around 10 seconds ->stop and turn bike off for about 30 seconds -> start bike again and press + for a few seconds until you see a flashing 1, then ride for a bit until the tc light stops flashing.
This has sorted a couple of electronics issues I've had, hope it works for you!
@@chrisdavis7533 Saving this for future reference. thank you so much matee! really appreciate your help
@@SK_XIII hope it works fam, if you dont get sorted, let me know, a few folks i can call that may have a better solution
@@chrisdavis7533 Will keep ya updated matee
Do you think your mods have anything to do with it?
I had that thought a first, but the only thing I can think of is maybe the tune? the issue feels electronic related. Also been finding out that people have had the same issue on stock RS, the QS sensor may also be faulty
Sounds like the load sensor on the shifter is dead
Leaning more and more towards something sensor related as I'm going through the different possibilities. thanks for sharing mate!
Idk if this is a reliability issue you tuned the engine than installed an exhaust that shoots flames out the back. Sucks that your bike is in the shop but this might be on you. Hope it's a cheap fix.
Gotta pay to playy I guess. From what I have been seeing online, it may be a known issue with the QS sensor since its happened to stock bikes too, fingers crossed its cheap as well mate!
@@SK_XIII damn hate to hear it I've been saving for a 2nd bike the Rs660 or the V100 Mandello I think they share tech. Maybe I should get a Yamaha 😑
@@DimitriLeeBX Yamaha definitely a safer option, but the ape is incredibly fun! if you have the warranty and a dealer by you, maybe worth exploring ✌
1st of many to come because after all it’s an aprilia.
hope nottt :D
I know your problem and the fix. This happens when your oil run a bit low. Make sure you have enough oil in the bike usually a bit more than you think; fully cover the marker on the dip stick.
Haven't heard of this before....kinda odd engine oil level would impact the QS. It is an Aprilia so who knows eh 🤣
@@SK_XIII Hi, it worked for me as I had the same problem. Once I got the oil level HIGH the quick shifter started working again and was better than it has ever been.
"Italian bike"
🤣🤣
Aprilia at its finest 😂😂😂. Trade it in for a ducati.
Ducati are the bikes that initially gave European bikes a bad reliability reputation compared to Japanese bikes lop
please talk faster. i had to put this video in 2x speed