Pod Go vs the Real Deal | SpectreSoundStudios Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Putting the Line 6 Pod Go up against the incredible Revv Generator 120 mk ii tube amp: Does a $450 floor processor even stand a chance against a $3000 monstrosity?
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What are your thoughts? What's the REAL amp? What's the Pod? I want to hear from YOU!
Disclosure: Line 6 sent me the Pod GO & asked that I give an honest opinion. Be careful what you wish for, Line 6!
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Thanks for the Insultashoutout or whatever we call that! Love ya mann!
Henning, I just bought Dave Friedman some rope.... Bwahahahahaaaaaa!😎
He gets cranky. Your vids on this were great.
Your video on the source audio collider convinced me to get one. Sometimes more info is awesome!
Nearly everything you hated about Line 6 changed when they were bought out by Yamaha.
FYI, the core Helix team from before the Yamaha acquisition is pretty much the same as Helix team after the acquisition. However, the Helix team is a pretty different crew than earlier products (HD500, etc.). ALSO, I want to mention that the people at REVV have been super cool to work with. There's nothing like a full stack blazing behind you, flapping your pants. I loved playing the real REVV amp. Hopefully the people who love the REVV models will consider a real REVV amp if they need to get loud, and hopefully the Revv fans who own a Rev won't feel weird if they want to mess with POD Go or Helix native in a recording or low volume situation. Everyone wins when the companies are cool and cooperative. Cheers! --Ben
Being bought by Yam was the best thing to happen to Line6 in forever
@@bunnyadrian Tbh, the people from Line6 weren't at all bad at their job.
The priorities with Yamaha probably changed for better quality/less cheap.
Yamaha gear has always been very quality for price in everything I've used from them. They were my first guitar and amp and my son is using a Yamaha bass that is a real treat to play and it was only like 170 bucks.
@@bunnyadrian I've owned quite a few L6 products. The AX212 was a great amp for its time, but fragile. A few bean pods. Sold them all. I got the Pod Go 3 weeks ago. I won't be selling this. The Helix was way more than I'd ever need. This thing is perfect.
Oh no Glenn, you mentioned something about tubes giving your amp a unique sound. Be prepared for the angry "you're a hypocrite" comments.
GLENN IS A HYPOCRITE!
Yeah, I spotted that, ( 5:30 ). Get your popcorn ready, Friday could be a lively one :D
Glenn's trolling [sic] for content 😋
I'm one of those weirdos that does "tube rolling", where i can find differences by switching around the tube inside the amp, as some are hotter, some are weaker, and it really can change the behavior of a rig.
*insert Glenn screaming*
"The difference between tubes vs DIGITAL is NOT the same as tubes vs TUBES! Why do I even need to EXPLAIN THAT?!"
I just pictured someone trying to steal the Revv head, running down the street and throwing their back out after 20 yards.
You've never seen posts by bands who have had their vans cleaned out by thieves?
Gear thieves are clearly organized and bring their own vans to rush off with hundreds of kilos of equipment.
@@skatterpro once at my local venue a marshall + cab and drum kit were stolen so yeah
@@ivotrindade1669 I'd have to think about stepping in if I witnessed the theft of our bands drumkit at a gig... Let it go and get home early 🙄
I bought the Pod Go about 3 months ago and I absolutely love it. Been doing a whole lot of recording with it and it's great to just have so many options that sound good. Definitely worth the price and I highly suggest it.
"You can only run one amp at a time, whatever will we do" that made me laugh so hard, because some of my Axe Fx friends are always talking about mixing 2 amps xD
Most Axe FX guys are total wankers anyway :p
Most guitar players are wankers.
@@SpectreSoundStudios Some people like doing wet/dry or even wet/dry/wet. I have a wet/dry setup in Amplitube that I like.
This limitation only exists for the Pod Go. The full helix or even the Helix LT can run multiple amp blocks. But for 449, this is incredible sounding and a reasonable limitation.
When playing with headphone, i really like a 2 amp set-up, one pan left and one pan right. It gave a nice "stereo effect" but for live and for recording, one amp is the way to go...
The Helix stuff is so overlooked because everyone is just like “EWW THE FRACTAL AND KEMPER IS BETTER WAAAA” but if you actually sit down with it you’ll find it’s just as good as the others
The Quad Cortex will blow those two out of the water so... xD
But before the Quad's announcement I was going to get a Helix so I thing you are very much correct in your statement.
I love my kemper, but this looks and sounds awesome. The interface seems super user friendly too, I’m gunna suggest this to my friend who wants to get into amp modeling.
Yeah the Helix is amazing too. The tones are equally great as a Kemper
i love me Helix to the sun and back. Its so versatile
i have a Helix and to be honest its a tweekers dream. if you love to sit there and mess with all the different things and sculp tones its perfect. BUT......im not a tweaker. i find myself just pulling up my plini or nolly plugin and just jamming with the presets and being fully content. that the reason i might be selling my helix to fund a quad cortex. we'll see
It take years for glenn to upload video that praise Line6 Pod Go.... Finally, it'd worth the wait
I'm not making any promises
The title says VS not IS
Considering how close they are, I’d love to see a null test on that!
Maybe add an EQ match plugin to make it 100% the same, would be awesome indeed.
I don't you could do that and get any meaningful result,
Line 6 did a great job on their model, however there are a few things to consider,
One the signal chains are not EXACTLY same, there the captor could color it ever so slightly, which would show up in the null test.
Two from what i understand L6 does not model the power section of their amps, cause apparently from what i read it doesn't make a lot of difference, but its just something that might come out in a Null test
Three, L6 did not use Glenns rev for the model, there is no telling what other factors could play into a model of one amp sounding different then another amp, like How long the amp been physically on creating heat for the tubes and the circuits, or how new are the tubes in the amp, are those tubes biaed exactly like the tubes in glenns amp or even slight revisions between glenns amp and the amp that L6 team used,
And to top it off the final process for a amp model is actual people tuning the model to taste, to het it as close as possible, there are way to many factors in the game to expect a zero sum null test for this setup,
I would say that a null test doesn;t really matter in this case anyway, it sounds like a rev, and there are very minor differences when switching from one to the other, which can be explain with the above factors, and for sub 500 dollars vs 3000 dolars for a real rev gen 120. i don't care about those differences.
Honestly I'm not even sure if a Null test would work with two off the shelf amps of the same kind.
@@blaness13 I'd say it's still worth doing. A null test doesn't have to be silent to show how close the sound is. I'd definitely be interested in hearing a null test of two of the same amp, though, that's an interesting thought!
To overcome the power amp problem, could reamp through the helix but then put that out (via output or the send) into the return of the revv, because then you're just essentially putting the 'preamp' into the power amp so would nullify the power amp colouring, then both tones are also going through the torpedo.
Glenn should just null test everything from now on
@@blaness13 I agree with your points mostly, except for number two. Line 6 does model the power section of all amps. What you said was true for the X3 generation, but from the HD generation onwards, Line 6 models the power amps as well.
For example, when they made the Badonk, which was based on their popular Big Bottom amp from the XT generation, they added a power amp section to the amp, because the original didn't have one.
Predictions before seeing answers:
Clip 1 (red channel)
A: Pod
B: Amp
Clip 2 (mix with purple channel)
A: Amp
B: Pod
Yep, those are my predictions too.
Agreed
Very cool, when I started playing as a teenager around 11 years ago I wish this sort of thing was available. In a full live mix it will be prettymuch indistinguishable from the real thing, but there’s nothing like playing a cranked tube amp.
The world really is ending, Glenn recommended a POD!
Clip A red: POD
Clip B red: REVV
Clip A purple: REVV
Clip B purple: POD
The digital stuff always has the cocked-wah sound. That’s a give away to my ears.
£450 or £3000, broken back before a gig or not? A tear comes to my eye, when a circuit board starts to makes more sense.😢 Sad but true.!
I would still have the amp just for sentimental reasons, but that is a irrational way of thinking when it comes to the home musician.
Great video again, and best wishes. 👍🏼🖖🤘
TheClassicRKR I can add to them variables, and they aren’t the amps fault.😀
Drunk people and drinks, and idiots disrespecting the fact tubes tend to smash when a amp is dropped or miss handled. I can imagine, the little magic boxes of today makes things a lot easier on the wallet and mind. 😂 best wishes 🤘
To be fair, one can emulate a real amp in signal processing software on desktop since the schemas for many amps are available with a small but: at X0,25 speed on a top desktop processors (and 64-core Threadripper can't make it in real time either) chugging 120+ Watts alone.
To be fair, tube amps are also circuit boards..
Tommy Eklund fair play fella, yes you are right. 😀 😂🤘
@@tommy.eklund Which was my point, the tubes aren't easy to simulate perfectly though.
Real amp had more thud and chunk. They were close though. Use Pod for gigging, and amp for recording.
accurate!
Red channel, I literally could not hear a difference.
Purple channel, the POD had more presence in the mids, around 1k or so. Pod was Clip A in the full band mix which, I can't believe I'm saying this: I actually preferred, as the midrange peak helped cut through the mix.
I have owned a Helix for a while, the Revv Gen Purple was my main tone on it and I was getting impressive results.
Recently I became proud owner of a Revv Generator 100p and now use the Helix in the FX loop for effects.
The main difference in my humble opinion is that yes, you can get a Revv tone out of the sim, but the real deal takes WAY less tweaking time and EQ to blow you away.
Also that tube amp "smack in the face" is missing in the simulation.
Other than that, hats off to Line6, they nailed the sim on this one.
I own the Helix and a 5153..
You can get a similar tone to sound the same but there is so much more going on with the real deal than just the sound..like you said .. a smack in the face I atribute to tube compression and sustain dynamics ... recorded they might sound similar...live is completely different!
7:54- Take that line 6! When you're being too nice and subconsciously have to hit the thing to balance it out
LOL
I use the Pod Go in my metal band. I used an Engl Powerball II before and I have a Mesa Rectifier at home. So I have a comparison to two world class amps. But I must say, the Pod Go sounds awesome. I use a Palmer Macht 402 power amplifier and a 4/12 cabinet and it sounds and feels like a real amp to me...
I think A is the Revv but A and B sound great! Not a deal in it and you could EQ the Line^ to sound exactly the same. The Line6 is a winner IMO :)
Asking which is the real amp and which is the sim is the wrong question. The real question is which one sounds better. To me, clip B sounded just a little bit fuller in the bass and low mids, but they're super close. It might just come down to preference there. Whether that's the real amp or the sim only matters when you want to recreate that tone
My bets: Red Channel, they are the fcking same. Purple channel, after hearing the isolated tracks, I gotta say is more obvious (to me, at least) clib B is the real amp. It has a more prominent mid-lows that are quite noticeable.
But other than "yeah, I can identify it because I just heard the differences", I don't think they those differences make a difference. Come on, let's be honest, they are a lot of records out there with great songs that sound way worst than this clip
I got a Helix LT, and its one of my favorite things ive purchased since ive started recording in a home studio. The ease and tonal quality are great. I would still use a tube amp live. However for getting great bedroom friendly tones, helix stuff especially the pod go are HUGE.
Sounds incredible. On the full band mix how great is that bass tone???!!!
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I’m available!! 😀
I bought one because the other guitar player has one in our band. I couldn’t be happier with this purchase. Beats hauling in my amp, 2x12 cab AND pedal board. This fits in a laptop bag 👌
Well. I honestly can't hear a difference that matters. On RUclips.
So, you're a gigging musician. And you can take your sound in a backpack, without worrying about it getting dropped or damaged.
Do you lug your ultra cool Revv/Boogie/EVH on the road, or even across town? Or do you just plop this on the floor and play through a powered speaker?
Is there still something more feral about playing a real tube amp? My past experience says "yes" but this sounds like it might be a big jump above that.
This thing looks perfect for playing solo acoustic gigs, too!
As far as which is which, I don't know that it matters as they both sound great, and that's what counts. And if you're writing good music that folks want to hear, it's not going to matter what you're using (of course, as long as you have a quality sound). Gotta remember that not all metal fans are guitar players...some just want to hear cool metal tunes!
The POD Go was the best purchase i've ever made, however if the real deal was goven to me i would go with the ladder :) great product tho
Lol... I'd go with the POD Go rather than the ladder mate, although with a ladder you can get soaring high tones so maybe! 😂😂😂
Honestly, for me it's less about "how close does this sound to the real thing" and more about "does this thing sound good?" And for me, both sound *killer*. I've actually been using a Pod HD Pro X as my preamp into the power amp of my Laney IRT Studio for the past few years and for bedroom use it's been fantastic (I especially like the 5150 model, which is one of the last ones they did for the HD series before the Helix came out)
Exactly. I've gotten a lot more loose in my standards with respect to the "real thing". Owned an Axe-Fx II for about 7 years now. Would I PREFER to record a real tube amp? Sure! but can I get a pretty damn good result from the Axe-Fx and have those settings repeatable days or months later? Yuuup. Honestly, it's a convenience thing for me. The song's more important than the gear anyway.
@@jurgenkreftfeld8238 "The song's more important than the gear anyway."
We need this plastered all over the Internet.
Clip A sounded a bit fuller in the mix, so I’m going to guess A: Revv B; Pod Go.
Hahahaha. I thought the exact opposite. B had a warmer, fuller sound to my ears.
@@braunhausmedia Mine is same as you.
@@braunhausmedia Oh he mean the second clip?
I think a great use case for this would be If you have the real amp(s) in the studio, home, where-ever, to track and record, but the Pod Go is for gigging or otherwise temporarily transporting those tones.
Real is A. I use the Revv red as my main high gain on my Helix LT, and B definitely had the same top end sizzle.
I think they should have called it the Helix Go, drop the POD branding altogether.
Finaally...some line 6 product review from you sir!
As you said, the sound both of the two clip so much close and sounds so good to my ear that i don’t even bother to guess
Really loved this kind of content from your channel ❤️
Good job and keep the hardwork Glenn sir! 🙏🏼👌🏽💪🏼
That's a good price! I think A is POD and B is REVV. Guitarists like Jeff Loomis play live with Helix on stage, good job Line 6 :)
I couldn't tell the difference. I would be stoked to have a Pod Go. It would definitely be an upgrade for my home recording setup and it would be my preference for gigs.
Its 2020. Plagues beset the land , Gibson makes terrible guitars now, Behringer now makes gear that won't catch on fire 10 mins after its turned on and and Line 6 is apparently good now. What a time to be alive
Greetings Shayne!
Wow... it is good! Very good! At that price? Wow
I am seriously surprised by this! The first test I could hear virtually no difference (maybe *slightly* more upper mids in clip A) and I'm sure any that I do hear is mostly placebo. In a mix I definitely wouldn't hear a difference with those riffs and tone. The second test they do sound different, clip A has more pronounced upper mids and B has more low end, but both are good and after a second or two you forget the clip was even changed. Sounds pretty good from this test, I'll say.
There is one element missing from these things. They could mimic precisely, and they would still be inferior. Before you start slamming me, my setup has moved from amps to emulation.
Glen touched on it when he said about his valves: Everyone is going to sound largely the same. We are getting to the point where guitar music is going stale. Think of EVH, Hendrix , on bass you have Entwistle. These people pushed the tech. They rewired amps, and combined equipment that wasn't meant to go together to make sounds that were literally unheard of, that others are STILL emulating.
Even Glen's sounds are sounding tired, not because he isn't novel, but because, as an influencer everyone is copying him.
Ever tried to get an old beringer pad mixer? Yeah, he mentioned them and they were gone. Find your own way. Use channels like these as a guide, or reference for a specific issue you have, or (Krom forbid) entertainment.
All guitar sounds are pretty much 5150 V30 SM57 or the target sound of almost everyone's ear. It's the loudness wars all over again.
I don't offer a magic wand... I'm not some big shot producer. But damn are things getting samey.
To take it a step further, there is this idea of a “perfect” mix in the production department as well. While I’m always working to improve my own production, I have to remind myself that the goal shouldn’t be to sound like my favorite records. People should want to find inspiring tones that they love playing with and not to create some tone that is used on every record out.
@@chazhook4477 precisely. I think we are in a place where technology is driving style, whereas in the most (arguably) iconic recordings, it was the limits of the tech that drove the creativity. We are all overwhelmed swimmers in a pool of tech, and people like Glen, and Warren huart, throw an inflatable in, and everyone fights to have it to keep afloat.
pod go is sweet. amazing option for people that don’t have $5,000+ for a rig. the sims are pretty damn close and considering the price difference, it’s a no brainer for many people. i’ve been a digital guy for many years now but i’m finally at the point where i’m investing in tube amps, but i still switch on my pod for recording and designing tones.
crazy!! I immediately loved the tone of the rev more in solo but the line 6 in the mix was pretty awesome. Thanks for the shootout!
Very hard to tell.
Clip 1: Red
A - POD
B - Revv
Clip 2: Purple
A - Revv
B - POD
Clip 1B, in the jazzier reverby part, I can hear more low end response through the tail of the reverb. So thats why I'm gonna call it the Revv.
Clip 2A cuts through better, so that's why I'm calling it the Revv.
We are definitely at the point we're amp Sims are not just useable but for most of us they are the better option.
Very excited to see what the next generation of stuff will be. That's what I'll spend my money on
Clip A sounded a little "squishier" to my ear which makes me think it's the real amp. Clip B had a little more of that high end fizz which is typical for sims. I use a Helix every day and usually put an eq block at the end of the chain to roll off around 16k and to pull out some 4k.
In my opinion, since the POD 500 era, modelers were good enough to perform with and "get away with it".
The crowed can't tell the difference in my opinion, all they hear is "tsssssssssss" anyways.
Helix brought snapshots which allowed you to perform and switch sounds without that 20 ms delay (I have to say that a friend of mine had a 500x that literally had no delays whatsoever which was super weired, because mine did, with the same presets!)
This is a Helix but stripped down, so no wonder it sounds great.
If you're considering and you're reading it- just buy one. that or the helix. in regards to live tones- you'll be set for life.
Last Friday: "Tubes don't matter". The following Wednesday: "This is my own personal amp with it's own particular set of tubes..." Aww, c'mon Glenn WTF?
Just busting your balls here, every amp is a little bit different...
This had me scratching my head too.
I caught that as well.
Full mix 6 min. in: DUDE! INCREDIBLE tone there! VERY VERY VERY (yes 3 verys) good work there mic'ing and mixing that kit! (not to mention the whole mix) (whoever actually mic'ed and mixed the drums , I'm guessing Glen did the final mix of them and someone at that guy's place did the mics)
At the start of the A/B, I thought B was the real amp because it had that low-end thump and resonance that made the chugs stand out. Then when you performed the real time re-amp and indicated which was the real one, the that told me the thump was more noticeable with the POD.
Great Shootout. a massive gripe I have with line 6 and a lot of other modellers is the (*brand name redacted*) so we shall call it the Rectum Fryer. I have never quite heard anything come close to recording the real thing. I would love it if somebody has any suggestions that isn't a desktop plugin to prove me wrong. It truly is the amp I find most synthetic in modellers.
This also got me wondering, is the Rectum Fryer an amp that only takes well to a live signal chain with the musical inconstancy caused by the speakers pushing air?
I have a HX Stomp that I was using live and Have had people come up to me after a gig (pre - covid) and ask what amp I use live and then die on the spot when I show them the HX Stomp
I think the real amp was B. I’m listening on my phone speakers because I don’t wanna hook up my monitors though so like it matters anyway I probably can’t hear shit
The Pod Go sounds really good for a simulation inside a "simulation" ;-) I love my Helix floor, but great IRs make all the difference IMHO
I washed my hands but you didn't tell me to brush my teeth, now I have to go to the dentist. Bad Glen! Lol.
"It's just the tubes..." - That didn't age well...
The original POD's weren't really that bad. It was the built in IR's that made them suck.
It's low hanging fruit really.
The pod hd works fantastic as a pre amp, i love it
I very much agree, used live or in the studio with good IRs, the HD X generation works very very well, much better than what most entry level studios have to offer. I mean, most entry level studios don't have Rectifiers or SVTs laying around...
The Red channel sounded super close.... and the purple channel sounded rather close... seems like someone has figured out how amp modeling is supposed to work.......took long enough.
They both sound good and usable in a recording. But the real reason for that is the impulse or real cab chosen anyone can make a good amp sound bad. But the impulses you have are really sick.
Fwiw clip B was slightly warmer, listened via 5.1 surround fyi, but both good, the full band the warmth was more defined lowmid area, it (B) punched a bit more (on this crappy system). ?!!?
I own a Pod Go for live purposes. The thing is - I hate the build up and tear down process before and after the gig. You carry a lot of shit with you that can be broken after every gig you play. To tear down your setup with the Pod Go - just pull cables. That's it. I threw a proper IR on my Soldano simulation and it's sounds a - mazing. I'm not part of a prog band so I mostly need just one amp for the whole gig. Only a few songs need their own preset. No back pain, no hassle, great sound. What more could you ask for?
If I hadn't bought a helix I'd suck at understanding EQ for everything, helix taught me soooo much about all the EQ stuff. I don't even own an amp. If you think line 6 sounds good, go hear it in a live mix and it sounds fantastic
I cannot hear a significant difference at all, so not going to guess. Listened on three different systems and I have no fucking idea which is which. I've been using the Helix/Purple exclusively ever since it came out a few months ago on 2.9. Best amp sim ever! (with the right IR of course)
This shit cracks me up.😹. You can use whatever you want to get your own sound and record it well and eq it properly and It will be be killer. you do not need all the expensive shit, just gotta be creative and know how to use what you have.
Not gonna guess which clip is what, I listened it on a phone anyway :P, but I like that snare sound.
Clip b was the revv for both
Clip a was real amp.. straight up no doubt about it.. u can't fool me.. lol.. just kidding.. I have no idea.. but what I do know....... I love my pod go.
The difference is $2500?!!!.... I'll take the line 6, that I can actually afford. I can't hear $2500 worth of difference. For three grand, I get a line 6 POD go, and my son gets a good used car...
I'm going with : Red channel A Revv, B POD. Purple A POD, B Revv...
I'll take the POD and a 1987 Z28, with t-tops.
Oh God...Glenn recommending a Line 6 POD????!!!! Line 6 created a workable POD????!!!! As if 2020 couldn't get any weirder! You hear that? That's the sound of hell freezing over folks! The end is nigh!
I mean, as far as the sounds go, the Pod Go is a Helix. It just doesn't have as much versatility and processing power
Do you know what’s missing? The editor run offline so I wasn’t able to tell what DSP was missing compared to the helix
@@pipelineaudio I don't have an exact list, but I know the Pod Go uses a less powerful chip, so it has less DSP. There are a few models that it is unable to run, but offhand I don't remember what they are
@@RyanWright the Cosmos Echo, the Legacy Drive and maybe the KoT? The analog components aren't the exact same either, but still high quality. It doesn't have the auto impedance as HX stomp and Helix have.
@@newcomer87 that sounds about right... I don't think it has the clawthorn drive either. It's still pretty amazing sounding. I wouldn't sell my Helix for one, but I wouldn't be ashamed to have it either. May pick one up eventually as a flight rig/ backup.
@@RyanWright I wholeheartedly agree. It's fantastic that they managed to come out with such a product at this price point. The tech and the metal housing is impressive and will probably satisfy a huge no of people. In many parts of the world, Helix is just out of reach money wise, so this product is destined to become a home run! I'm on a Helix LT right now and loving the added flexibility, but I'd be lying if I claimed that I couldn't have done just fine with the Pod Go :)
I feel like the only differences here come from the mic and placement
I know, right? Whenever someone makes a review like this (really well made) it always end up in "is it exactly like the real one? NO" I mean, wtf, 2 things can be different but not necessarily one better than the other
In my opinion it would have been good to compare to old line 6 rack units aswell.
But I'm sure line6 is alot better nowadays compared to 20 years ago.
It's funny how we justify $2,500 or $4K amps, but modelers have to be as cheap as humanity can muster?
There's a great clip of Larry Mitchell having his core studio amp A/B'd with an FAS AxeFx 2 from several years ago, and he couldn't tell (or feel) the difference.
Granted, FAS and L6 are vastly different grades of technology, but modelers have "been there" for some time now. Albeit a bit more expensive than what China can muster.
I think the A is the real amp.
It's so close, it really doesn't matter. I got my Pod Go on Tuesday, and I love it. Yeah, most of the gain presets are bad, but play with them a bit and they sound good.
Just bought a Helix on Monday .I've been using a headrush for 2 years for recording and has happy with it. The Helix is has WAY BETTER QUALITY SOUNDS. I had a hd500x years ago and it was "not that great" As far as the A B clips I would say that you could hear a slight EQ difference . That could be fixed with a EQ block on the pod go,or post . I have been playing in bands since the 80's and even when guys had high priced amps - they or the sound guy would make them sound like shit half the time. So I think the Helix and the pod go is going to help people sound great when the play live. Or help with the " sounds like the studio recording " part . Now they need a pod go for singers & bass players & drummers .
The obvious use for the Pod Go is for live gigs. No heavy tube amps and 4x12s, no complex pedalboards and setup. You just grab a guitar and this and Go, that's was the goal, I think, judging by the name. Who cares if it's 97% or 95% or even 90% as the real thing? The IRs play an important role here. If the old Pods had IR capability they would be waaay more accurate. And the price is good, too!
Holy fuck that snare sound on that demo was fucking nasty, but in the best way! Probably my favorite snare sound from you.
Holy fucking snare... that shit was so much louder than everything else I couldn't even really pay attention to the guitars in the mix
I'll say the Red Ch Clip A = POD, Clip B = REVV. For Purple Ch, the opposite: Clip A = REVV, Clip B = POD. Of course, I could be 180 out. Thaks & FU.
When Glenn get's older he starts liking a Line6 product. He,he! No I agree, I have not been a fan of them either. But they have stepped up now obviously with the Helix and now the Pod Go and with REVV in it. Cool. My guess is A is the Pod Go for both clips. It sounds a little bit brighter and that's typical for amp emulations. But it also depends what cab(emulation or impulse?)was used for the Pod Go.Don't know what cab Glenn use?
Great video!!! So which was which????? My bad ears could not tell much difference, though I thought Clip A sounded slightly better. But what do I know, I suffer from ringing in the ears....thanks to loud tube amps.
Clip A is POD. Clip B is Revv. 100% Wasn’t really difficult to hear in an A/B. Now if you had it in a mix and asked me if I thought it was a real amp, I’d just say “there’s no way to tell these days.” I actually prefer the POD’s sound in live settings since I’m usually in small to medium sized venues where it’s super loud and the detail is more important than the extra resonance (or whatever that “extra” is that tubes give you) from the Revv.
I looked away for the Revv Purp Mixes part of the video and the difference is so negligible IMO
SOUNDS OK, BUT.....absolutely NOTHING beats my Line 6 Spider 2 212!!!!!!!
Good to have an honest comparison instead of Yngwie clones telling us they don't like the Plexi tone. Of course the real deal is always preferable, but for those of us that don't have $1700 for a Helix or 2000 bones to drop on a Boogie or Revv, the Pod Go is a great alternative for $449. Thank you and best from the Bay Area.
MK
Hi Glenn! Just curious if you've ever messed with the Line 6 Bass Pod Pro? I saw on Warren's channel that Cameron Webb keeps one around in his studio. I see a handful of these floating around on eBay and often wonder if they're worth the try. Not a bass player, just an engineer looking for good tones. Anyhoo, thanks for everything you do! Cheers and fuck you from Nashville! - Clark
As I am not a musician, just looking to noodle around with some guitar, I have been searching out affordable LP style guitars, and have been looking into something along the lines of a Pod GO or Headrush Gigboard. I kimda think as a beginner this would allow a lot of flexibility to experiment with a variety of 70s-80s rock/blues tones and other stuff, without needing to begin assembling a decent sized pedalboard. Do you think that would be a decent route to take?
I kinda liked the look of the Gigboard UI more, and don't see myself needing a wah or volume pedal for a good while. Have you played with Headrush stuff at all? Lastly, any recomendations on beginner priced LP style guitars to start with? Just want to appriximate sounds from songs I like, to keep me interested and learning, and mainly just after something of enough quality that the gear doesn't discourage and stifle the learning process. I would also love gear that is cheap enough that I don't fret about letting my 3 kids noodle with it as well. My almost 10 year old loves music and has a keyboard and acoustic guitar already.
Cheers
WOW!!! I can't here much of a difference at all. I will definitely be buying The Pod Go. I mean seriously why would you spend $3,000 for a little bit of difference when you could take that money that you saved on buying the Pod Go and get a bunch of other stuff to improve other areas for your Home Studio.
Great video. I could not tell the difference with the red channel . The Purple sounded fuller on the real amp during your solo comparison (I didn’t keep track of A v B in the mix though. But without an A / B comparison I’d have no clue. They both sounded great.
Question: you mentioned your tubes having an effect on the amp tone. I swear I’m not trying to be a jerk but didn’t you say in an earlier video that they had no impact on tone? Maybe I’m mistaking the tubes in an amp with another tube topic. Or is it that you filmed this a while back, before you did that test? Just honestly curious. Thanks Glenn!
The Pod Go sounds good, don't get me wrong, but the actual amp sounds better. There is a fullness/roundness to the bottom end that the sim doesn't have. Once sims nail that part they will be indistinguishable. Truth is 99.99 percent of people listening to a tune would never know the difference between the Rev or the Pod Go on your record. At this point it's nerds like us having this argument over what sounds better .... it's the Rev by the way.
Which clip is which then?
@@SpectreSoundStudios You were A/B'ing them in the box in the middle of the video.
@@fleekwoodmac3705 correct. What about the first clip. Or in the mix?
@@SpectreSoundStudios The young guy with hollow body Schecter: Rev is B. Pod is A. There is more meat in the lower register for example B and in my experience that's the amp. I've listened to examples online where they pit the Axe up against the amp it reports to model. To me there is always more oomph in the bottom on the amp. *big assumption here is the axe and pod are very similar tech*
I actually kept my Triple Rec and HK Puretone heads and adopted the Two Notes Torpedo Live on your recommendation/video.
Watch me be completely wrong here. That would be fine if I am.
You know I’d like to see what you’d think of Guitar Rig Pro 6 from Native Instruments. It’s a well known plugin from a German company, and they sure took their sweet time (over a decade) to update it. Kinda like Henning Pauly.
I have a Stomp and it's a great unit. But, when played into a power amp into speakers next to the real thing it falls a bit short re: "bigness/wideness/complexity" of sound and certainly feel. If you can't use or don't have the real thing or if you're not good at miking or have a bad sounding space, the Line6 units would work very well for you. For me it's the real thing every time if I can.
Sold my invective, 5150ii and Mesa Mark v and bought a helix and Duncan power stage 170, personally I’m never going back to real amp heads for gigs
I dont need two amps to play live, but i do need 2 cabs (Or an IR with a dual mic config). (my signal chain is pretty much Guitar > Amp > Cab with two mics with no fx at all) and i was wondering if this can do that in the POD Go. Sorry for my english and cheers from Puerto Rico.
As someone who likes simplicity this really spoke to me on a bunch of levels. I always hated the setup and tear down process which I’m sure everyone can agree with. Sure tubes and pedals sound better, but time is also money, taking 10-15 minutes to setup and troubleshoot was never appealing to me and it discourages me from playing half the time. But having something that takes up little to no space and have everything I needed. Not to mention getting props from the biggest Line 6 hater like Glen speaks wonders. And at the price tag it just screams me because I can easily replace it if something goes wrong and not be out a couple grand and not be able to afford a replacement.
If anyone is honest here, it's not possible to make the difference. There is a very light difference but it could be corrected with a good equalization. I have a Pod Go, I use Revv amp, maybe my dog could make a difference .. ;) .. Anyway very good test and even better entertainer !
The real revv seems to have just a little more depth and oomph to it. Would I pay 6 times as much for that? If money wasn't an issue yes and I was producing/engineering Grammy winning tracks then yes, realistically though I think the pod does a hella good job and the sound is more than adequate for 99.9% of people!
To be honest, I wouldnt mind useing POD GO for gigging. Its WAAAYYYY cheaper and it sound really good and in reality no one in the crowd will notice the difference. I would like to see a rack mountible version :)
The line6 HD product was a turd, so not a big step for Pod Go to be better, but it is way better. For the amp, both sound fine to me. I’d be interested in how they both “felt” to you playing them. I’ll look up the next vid. Thanks!
I fucking love the pod go.. the other big names with similar products are over double the price . This thing is fucking amazing for the money.. top to bottom.. probably the best guitar related item I've ever purchased, cash to value
Would be nice to hear some other tones like vintage marshalls and so on. Over distorted simulations all sound the same.