I forgot to mention that your melee attack also has a small AoE cone which will allow you to hit multiple targets. Armors with Peak phyisique will make your melee attack even more deadly! Thanks to @jorgebarbera very much for pointing it out!
I don't recommend it but it's really fun having a melee fight with a Devastator when their ranged weapon is gone. Its a lot of running in to get hits then running away when you see their windup and then running back in
Damn, the helldivers are so strong actually. I remember a reddit saying how helldivers would get obliterated in the Warhammer world, but they might actually have more chznce than that
@@Doc.BlackWolfit’s one of the best perks now! I’m having a blast with it, but I don’t know how much stronger the melee is. Perhaps you could do a second part? I haven’t seen your analysis anywhere else
@@Doc.BlackWolflooking forward to it! I suggest you go for these niche analysis and topics, since there’s so many channels that basically all talk about the same things
@@jorgebarbera I'm trying! The next video is a guide on how to deal with Hunters, next i think i will start reviewing underused weapons and stratagems!
I just wanted to say thank you for making this video. I know this will make me sound bad, but I am legit a level 71 player, and I DID NOT know the melee attack was this useful and utilitarian. I will now begin utilizing this to it's fullest extent on any difficulty, maybe even test it out in the Automatons.
1:20 If I were to ever make a mod, I'd make one where if you're pressing F against a hunter, you do a bitchslap with the sound effect instead of basic melee
The melee is great against a single automaton foot soldier 1 to 2 hits, the more armoured ones take more but still great as they are completely staggered
you definitely can. I believe the damage is the same, they just have different animations. The expendable anti tank one is really funny, it gives violent smacks with the tube XD
For the melee animation, have you tried out with the One-Handed primaries? I've found it to be slightly more effective than support weapon melee (using the Knight) but it does still use two-hands unless you have something occupying your off-hand like the B.Shield or SSSD.
the most effective is secondary wepons (pistols), if i'm not mistaken the smgs use the same two handed melee animation as the assalt rifles (when not carrying an SSSD)
@@Doc.BlackWolf I think you're right. Although it's possible it has a bit of a larger cone? Feels easier to hit multiple people using the primary melee than the secondary (not kill of course since you aren't headshotting and the part damage is negligible) but it can help when trying to clear space to stagger/stim. Although I might just be imagining it!
You can slap the stalkers to death with only melee, i did it before when i was out of ammo doing the "Hold my primary!" achievement, but it requires a good amount of timing / luck.
I have tried to melee hive guards to death but they loose their back legs and become unhittable, maybe if i switched to pistol or crouched i could hit them. Also Warriors seem to take way more hits to the head to kill than they should. Like around 15
True! I use melee in pretty much every match cus i main Lib Penetrator and wasting additional bullets on warrior that already doesnt have head is not ideal
if i'm not mistaken standard melee does 50 damage which brings it up to 75 with peak physique and up to 95 with both peak physique and muscle enhancment booster. The booster itself boosts the damage by 20% which makes it deal 70 damage. Honestly not really noticeable rather than on scavengers or hunters.
io uso il melee per parryare visto che mi basta che siano leggermente storditi per colpirli bene compresi gli hive guard, e se colpisci ad esempio warrior e brood commander dopo avergli distrutto la testa allora diventeranno leggermente ubriachi e non ti attaccheranno a meno che non gli stai vicino. per gli automaton invece il melee è valido solo contro i bot piccoli mentre tutto il resto ti sfonda facilmente
@@Doc.BlackWolf it makes no sense people dont know how to melee and need a in-depth guide to do it. just playing one hour you can figure this stuff out. everyone is so reliant of ytbers to do anything, or looking for “guns tier list” or “best load-out” like bro just play the game.
@@paparoach3071 i think it's because most people don't know there is a melee feature in the first place (i myself found out after several hours) and when they do find out, they try it, see it's kinda useless and never use it again. Hence the video
@@Doc.BlackWolf how do you play a game like this and not think/expect melee? that seriously makes no sense. all games have melee especially shooters. is this everyones first video game? like you proved my point of why im so salty. thats just ignorance.
I always go in deep when I play games, and I actually never thought of smacking hunters when they jump! Tnx man, nice direct video👊🔥 Also didnt think u could melee commanders out of that charge, good stuff n tnx again🤙
I forgot to mention that your melee attack also has a small AoE cone which will allow you to hit multiple targets.
Armors with Peak phyisique will make your melee attack even more deadly! Thanks to @jorgebarbera very much for pointing it out!
Getting pounced by hunters is now a parrying skill issue
experimental infusion booster also buffs it by like 15%ish as well.
Give me bayonet
Give me Swords of Freedom
my ship name (SES Sword of Freedom) :)
@@kenaiballmer5414 mine is Sword of Judgement
My ingame name is Paladin
My playstyle is Tank and team support
I need a sword
Distributor of family values
Justice must wield the sword
A bayonet would be fine.
As a souls-like player, parrying has been the thing keeping me alive since I instinctively did it on my first day fighting bugs
I have meleed hive guards to death. Its actually kinda fine. Especially if you don't want to waste ammo on them. You gotta aim for their back leg.
I don't recommend it but it's really fun having a melee fight with a Devastator when their ranged weapon is gone. Its a lot of running in to get hits then running away when you see their windup and then running back in
heh yeah i will cover bots in future videos too! ^^
I've done that plenty of times. You know what's really badass? Killing a berserker in melee.
Imagine watching a Viper commando fist fighting a devastator. Badass! I'm going to unlock twig snapper and try that.
I saw a video where the guy ran out of ammo and used melee to slap a hulk to death
Its John Helldiver in the flesh
very informative and to the point. great video
Damn, the helldivers are so strong actually. I remember a reddit saying how helldivers would get obliterated in the Warhammer world, but they might actually have more chznce than that
I was expecting you to analyze how Peak Physique affects melee too. Good and interesting video still
oh yeah i totally forgot about that being a thing XD
It was bugged when it got released so i thought it would take a little to get fixed
@@Doc.BlackWolfit’s one of the best perks now! I’m having a blast with it, but I don’t know how much stronger the melee is. Perhaps you could do a second part? I haven’t seen your analysis anywhere else
@@jorgebarbera i will need to play with the armor myself first, I'm working on my next video which should come out later today! ^^
@@Doc.BlackWolflooking forward to it! I suggest you go for these niche analysis and topics, since there’s so many channels that basically all talk about the same things
@@jorgebarbera I'm trying! The next video is a guide on how to deal with Hunters, next i think i will start reviewing underused weapons and stratagems!
that's so helpful! that changes the use of melee attack completly! thank you for the tip 😀
Yeah, I did notice a secondary melee does hit the head better.. thanks for the information!
I just wanted to say thank you for making this video. I know this will make me sound bad, but I am legit a level 71 player, and I DID NOT know the melee attack was this useful and utilitarian.
I will now begin utilizing this to it's fullest extent on any difficulty, maybe even test it out in the Automatons.
i gotchu homie
really useful information. Thanks
1:20 If I were to ever make a mod, I'd make one where if you're pressing F against a hunter, you do a bitchslap with the sound effect instead of basic melee
I love the italian language in the game with a english description. :D Always happy to see italian creators
Thank you! It means a lot ^^
The melee is great against a single automaton foot soldier 1 to 2 hits, the more armoured ones take more but still great as they are completely staggered
Well, this was really helpful. Thanks!!
Can you melee with support weapons? And do any of them do different damage from each other??
you definitely can. I believe the damage is the same, they just have different animations. The expendable anti tank one is really funny, it gives violent smacks with the tube XD
My favorite melee weapon is the eat.
You swing it overhead like a fucking club i cant help but hear a "bonk"
It's as if the bot side of the map doesn't even exist.
honestly melee is barely useful against bots, i only use it against rocket launcher chaff
@@Doc.BlackWolf heh fair point. I mostly only use it on the guys that jump pack onto you.
I've been a dedicated bugpuncher since day one, thank you for letting me punch them harder, better, faster, and stronger >:3
you got it homie!
For the melee animation, have you tried out with the One-Handed primaries? I've found it to be slightly more effective than support weapon melee (using the Knight) but it does still use two-hands unless you have something occupying your off-hand like the B.Shield or SSSD.
the most effective is secondary wepons (pistols), if i'm not mistaken the smgs use the same two handed melee animation as the assalt rifles (when not carrying an SSSD)
@@Doc.BlackWolf I think you're right. Although it's possible it has a bit of a larger cone? Feels easier to hit multiple people using the primary melee than the secondary (not kill of course since you aren't headshotting and the part damage is negligible) but it can help when trying to clear space to stagger/stim. Although I might just be imagining it!
@@nicholaswelsch8039 definitely yes, two handed melee animations have a bigger aoe cone.
Give me the Constitution rifle from the first game with it's big bayonet!
You can slap the stalkers to death with only melee, i did it before when i was out of ammo doing the "Hold my primary!" achievement, but it requires a good amount of timing / luck.
I have tried to melee hive guards to death but they loose their back legs and become unhittable, maybe if i switched to pistol or crouched i could hit them.
Also Warriors seem to take way more hits to the head to kill than they should. Like around 15
True! I use melee in pretty much every match cus i main Lib Penetrator and wasting additional bullets on warrior that already doesnt have head is not ideal
Great video man = )
@@zacablaster thank you!
Where do you see extra melee damage with the peak performance perk?
if i'm not mistaken standard melee does 50 damage which brings it up to 75 with peak physique and up to 95 with both peak physique and muscle enhancment booster.
The booster itself boosts the damage by 20% which makes it deal 70 damage.
Honestly not really noticeable rather than on scavengers or hunters.
You can also hurt Chargers by Meleeing them, but it's not advised AT ALL without Teamate distractions... Trust me on this.
@@ConfusedGuy101 i know, but it's kinda pointless xd
Big if true!
io uso il melee per parryare visto che mi basta che siano leggermente storditi per colpirli bene compresi gli hive guard, e se colpisci ad esempio warrior e brood commander dopo avergli distrutto la testa allora diventeranno leggermente ubriachi e non ti attaccheranno a meno che non gli stai vicino.
per gli automaton invece il melee è valido solo contro i bot piccoli mentre tutto il resto ti sfonda facilmente
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The timing always feels off. I melee a lot and it's a dice roll if it will land first.
yeah it also depends on ping, it is usually better to do it in advance rather than time it perfectly.
@@Doc.BlackWolf yeah but it really makes reactive fighting hard. Swing to stagger a warrior and get a claw in the face THEN he slides away lol
Watch on 1.5x speed if you value your sanity. SPIT IT OUT MAN!!
English is clearly not his first language, maybe don’t be a dbag.
Love your accent
He could make money selling bedtime audio books to insomniacs, for real
“did you know you can actually use your melee if youre smart and understand how to play the game” HD2 community what yall on fr
why so salty?
@@Doc.BlackWolf it makes no sense people dont know how to melee and need a in-depth guide to do it. just playing one hour you can figure this stuff out. everyone is so reliant of ytbers to do anything, or looking for “guns tier list” or “best load-out” like bro just play the game.
@@paparoach3071 i think it's because most people don't know there is a melee feature in the first place (i myself found out after several hours) and when they do find out, they try it, see it's kinda useless and never use it again.
Hence the video
@@Doc.BlackWolf how do you play a game like this and not think/expect melee? that seriously makes no sense. all games have melee especially shooters. is this everyones first video game? like you proved my point of why im so salty. thats just ignorance.
I always go in deep when I play games, and I actually never thought of smacking hunters when they jump!
Tnx man, nice direct video👊🔥
Also didnt think u could melee commanders out of that charge, good stuff n tnx again🤙