The 2023 Genesis G90 can teach BMW a thing or two
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- The new 2023 Genesis G90 will launch next year and it will be available in the US as a 2023 model.
Pricing for the Genesis G90 will most likely start at around $80k. It’s a guess but if you look at the strategy Genesis have had it’s been all about bringing massive value while staying just below the price point of its main rivals. In this case the Audi A8, the BMW 7-series, and the Mercedes-Benz S-class.
So far only the Korean spec model has been unveiled but the US spec will be nearly identical. It will have a twin-turbo 3.5-liter V6 that develops 375 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque that’s connected to an eight-speed automatic transmission. It will be offered with all-wheel drive. The engine seems to be the same 3.5 liter you find in the current G80.
Interior - Two 12.3-inch displays - one for the digital instrument cluster and the other for the infotainment system. There are also 23 speakers available with the Bang & Olufsen audio system and if you look up, the new G90 has two panoramic sunroofs with ambient lighting.
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The ‘2nd generation’ G90 is technically a very extensive facelift of the 1st generation. That’s why they can come out with this 3rd generation model so quickly. Just look at the window line of the 1st and 2nd generation and you’ll see what I mean.
Technically the 1st gen was the Equus but because it went by a different name the 2017 model was considered gen 1. The 2020 facelift set the theme for the rest of their lineup, I really enjoy my '21 G80, it has some absolutely gorgeous lines.
5 years between models that just mad
@@MaxLeveled the G80 is my fav of the line up, just beautiful
I consider it fourth generation: 99 equus, 09 equus, 17 g90, and now this one. I do this because in some markets the 2017 model was called the Genesis EQ900, tying the Equus to the G90
@@Bruv- late af but it's a hard agree from me
One of the most beautiful car ever designed.
Haha! I love that irony.
Chill don’t get too excited
@@brandon-munson Why..?
It worth to get excited
This thing really does look absolutely fantastic.
Haha
The grill tho
❤️ shaped grille 😆
It could teach mercedes a lesson or two too!
It has a proper saloon/sedan shape
and the S class doesn't?
@@kristians2704 it looks too tacky
@@kristians2704 please tell me you are joking. anyone who likes the new design langauge of bmw and mercedes has no taste, bmws are ofc worse but the new s class is so fucking disgusting looking
"four door coupe", fastback suvs and crossovers, etc. All look like crap.
New mercedes are just misshapen blobs, ugly ones too.
They don't have a proper shape (they no longer have obvious categories)
And most definitely do not show the solid, bold, strong lines of the 80s models
I really like that two spoke steering wheel on the 2023 G90. It works better than the ones in The GV70 and GV80.
I couldn't agree more! Those from 2017 and 2020 "worked" just on one side. On the other side, they appeared not to belong. I have even written to Genesis about it. I think it was a design failing although probably a cost issue, not having to design and manufacture another reverse design wheel if they retained the asymmetric design.
Genesis has been making some amazing cars lately
This Genesis almost feels like a modern interpretation of 1950s Lancia Sedans
Boy being italian I would kill to see Lancias in this shape. Maybe not those headlights but definitely this idea of design and car.
Lancia had some of the most beautiful cars. I think they are still beautiful to this day.
DING DING DING! THank you!
I really like how Genesis has evolved and makes great designs, as stated, cleanliness, flow and identity, however I truly hate the trend of having 70% of the front end taken by the grill just to appeal to a certain market.
it appeals to people tremendously to the people here in korea as well
Tbh, on limos I like big grilles. Thank the Brits for that. Rolls, Bentley and Aston.
@Maximillian aRTURO Chinese market because bigger grills in China means your richer or more respected
@Maximillian aRTURO big bmw grilles are retarded and new mb designs are so underwhelming they don't look like luxury cars anymore.
@@lettuce1305 it’s a shame that bmw wants to please Chinese market over the rest of the world with that silly ass grilles
For me this is the most beautiful sedan in the market
If you would have told me 15 years ago that by 2022 Hyundai would be making better looking cars than BMW, I would have laughed in your face. Now who's laughing?
Hyundai also if i had to choose between a new BMW and and new Hyundai I'd definitely choose the Hyundai so much cooler and classier
@@rallycobra5738 its not even comparable.
Bmw makes cars 2-3x more expensive than Hyundai.
Hyundai greatness is more about value for the price .
But BMW makes cars certainly different than Hyundai
BMW has never made particularly good looking cars
@@Criminelsoyeux BMW makes fugly cars nowadays
BMWs are all about the driver experience. They concentrate on the handling dynamics and drivetrain. There is a lot not to like about everything else related to a BMW. Interior is always behind. They are always expensive to maintain. Their exteriors aren't exciting.
I saw it, and I knew it is probably the prettiest thing, all the while with an original design that is not offensive... Koreans have done it... And outdone both Germans and Japanese competition...
You just confirmed it here with this video... Whole heartly agreeing with you
Really... how is that when some of G line is developed by a massive European collaboration
Audi BMW Lamborghini???
3:59 oh man would steal all the stares with that design.. killed it man.
I really really like Genesis design and I agree with you ! Moreover, it's pretty unusual to have the height going bigger from the front until the end !
I have a 2022 G70. The Exterior design is amazing, the power train is amazing, but there is still room for improvement in the interior. Something new from Stellantis will show the difference in interior.
The design is shocking in a good way! Love the retro-modern look. Love the silhouette, the character lines sweeping down the tail lights wow. Just not sure about the grille & the headlights.
The first and second genesis are the same cars underneath. The second one is a facelift of the first therefore no huge difference in the main body lines and mechanical bits
Genesis actually had a Batman / Alfred commercial for its car!
the wheels design for 2020 model is gorgeous. Fit so good to full size luxury sedan
I'm tempted to have mine refinished in black. It's funny, I actually get complimented on my rims.
Agree
It's nice to see a resurgence of the original Mercedes C219 CLS rear end. It looked great then, and it still looks great now.
The 1st generation G90 was a name change model from a Hyundai Equus and the 2nd generation G90 was technically a facelift and not a new generation so this new 2023 model would be the true Original 1st generation G90.
Really impressed with the overall shape and structure of the design and I think it would be even better as an EV. (Is it on the GIMP platform?)
The one thing I'm not a fan of is the little dimple on the top of the crest/grille. Not sure if that's the radar or something but it kinda looks like am old Tesla model S and not in a good way.
it's not a GMP platform, it's actually based on the older EQ900/G90 platform which kinda makes me question its pricetag (also considering it doesn't even have a V8) but okay
The new G90 is not based on the previous platform. That platform is not made for electrification. This new platform is made to house the electric powertrains, and the new 3.5t v6 engine. And those who want v8 power will have to get the 3.5t v6 engine with the electric supercharger. As of now, that powertrain combo is only available on the LWB model.
@@JT-fq2bl The Genesis CEO just shut down the rumor (a couple months ago actually) that this G90 will be electrified, just admitting it was too difficult to electrify a full size sedan and giving up. Apparently it could be done on the G80 (although with lot of compromises) and BMW had no issue doing it to their 3 Series (with no trunk compromise and amazing performance and good range although it ended up weighing more than 5,000 lbs) and the new 7 series, but this new G90 is going to be the laggard in the class again. Really, an electric supercharger that only adds around 35 hp to propel a 5,000+ lb car? Even the old V8 from 10 years ago made more power than that for a much lighter car (first generation Genesis R Spec)...
Always a thumbs up from me. I don't have to be an automotive designer or engineer to get it; the passion for cars runs deep through the populace and I love tuning in here and getting my fix. Bravo Sketch.
I'd like them to come out with a coup, I really like the cars they make but I have NO need for anything with 4 doors or seats!
Coupés don't sell, unless they have four doors, like the CLA, A7, Arteon, 8 Series Gran Coupé
@Dimetri Drossos the advantage coupes have is simple: aerodynamics. The coupe body style does not require any back space, allowing the body 2 b designed 2 take full advantage of the air hitting the car. A prime example of this is the Ford GT, which is designed with the specific goal and intent of using every oxygen molecule 2 its advantage. On top of this, the absence of a back seat allows the roof 2 slope very low, which again improves aerodynamics. Sedans have a back seat, so they can’t have that kind of flexibility. Another advantage is cornering. The shorter wheelbase of coupes make them lighter, which improves their cornering ability. That’s why smaller cars like the GR Yaris and the Ford Fiesta ST generally tend 2 handle well
They will be releasing a coup very soon. It's one of their next projects.
I loved the design, very focused and subtle without being overly simplified like an EV. But a car like this needs a V12, or at least a V8 if it really wanna compete with the big boys.
Tell that to Volvo, too.
I'm, as often stated, not a fan of most Asian car designs, especially not Genesis. But this exceeds my expectations, absolutely stunning executive sedan, much better than the face lifted A8 and S-Class and on par with the current 7-Series for me (which I really like, especially in Alpina Form).
I hope that's a preview for the next couple face lifts of Genesis' line up
It's futuristic and classic both at the same time. There's a feeling of preciousness with its design the reminds me a lot of Bentley and Mercedes-Benz.
You look at cars like I do! Glad I’m not alone! Wish more people could appreciate it like we do. I have always been associated with BMW, so it makes me sad to see the new ‘designs’ lose their identity. I actually am more finding Hyundai/Genesis designs more appealing right now. Glad we both share similar opinions towards how cars should be. Always love your videos.
I do like what Genesis are doing, the South Koreans must have something good in the water. I wish Volvo and DS would have made a proper S-Class competitor instead of the S90 and DS9 which are in different classes.
Kia-Hyundai hired Audi AG designers
@@isimonsez Stop. Automobile companies don't operate off of one or two designers, they house multiple design teams that consists of many designers from diverse backgrounds.. Obviously, ALL of the companies have designers from all over the world, not just the ones you're trying to rob credit away from.
@@trstnhn Did I suggest that? But you must be blind if you don’t see VWAG design elements post Donckerwolke & Schreyer going on board. You’re also blithely unaware of the position they have, they are not just low level designers so the changes I along with anyone with a pair of eyes sees, reeks of VW AG. that’s not coincidence
I have the cleanest first gen Genesis in white on aluninium and black 22" wheels and that thin is flawlessly sexy. People are now scratching their heads and going back to the drawing boards because this company brings it hard. I am so glad they are stomping on Mercs and beamers etc.....
Genesis are the best looking cars on the road
I love that they look twice as expensive as they are
Personally think they really nailed the G80, G90, GV70 and GV80 designs. G70 has a ways to go and GV60 is just okay. I'm really looking forward to the GV90 and the Genesis coup.
I'll pick this over Lincoln, Cadillac, Lexus, or even over the BMW or Audi
Yes, me too.
@@EndOfThings77 Ughhhh Ford Chevrolet ULGY Lexus, Audi, BMWs making new cars who looks ten years old day one.
@@yurieu5872 ha ha ha I agree.
I love your explanation of why we love cars! Cheers!
I think the 2020 and 2023 G90's are probably one of the most beautiful sedans there are. The dish wheels of the 2020 are killer. The way the greenhouse sits 'on top' or is separated from the lower section of the car through the shoulder line, makes it so incredibly stately and unmistakably sedan. It's a correct modern interpretation of pre 90's sedan design. Way better than all the modern 'blobs' and puffy designs currently, which makes cars look way too fat and fussy.
Genesis G90 must be one of my favorite cars right now - it's so gorgeous and luxurious!
I realy like your view on aesthetics and the way you explain all the elements that need to combine to make a whole care good looking. This G90 is one example of classic elecance si I dare you to take a tour over the 1965 Mercer Cobra Roadster and maybe do a redisign. That car is in the top 10 most beautifull ever, for me at least! :)
The way you described Car design was somewhat poetic. 👏
Genesis is really up there putting out cars that are beautiful, like '06 porche 911 and 65 Rolls-Royce phantom type beautiful.
I like the concept of S-Class luxury with an E-Class price tag
Does 2023 g90 come with panoramic sunroof? Standard or optional?
The problem with the old one is it was too fat this one they slimmed down and it looks so much better
So glad to say I drive almost a concept car....2020 Stinger GT-line. Lucky to see 1 or 2 a day here in Reno NV. HGK are killing with their designs and execution! Just subscribed and THX!
My favorite RUclips video! So much passion and loving genesis 👍
Can you do a video on Elantra N?
I feel you man - you perfectly described my feelings about car design …wow! And although I’ve been a Lexus (cars/crossovers) and Patrol (4WDs) person for many years I’m certainly drawn to the class and value Genesis now offers. Sadly, you don’t get Patrols in the USA, and I don’t get the G90 where I am…
Sensationell Design. Flawless
Flawlessly ugly-
Those 3.3T can make some good power
Yes now no one can say hey nice Chrysler, nice Bentley, nice audi, nice Mercedes? I have a g80 and I've heard all of those. These brand new ones, you'll just have to ask what is it?! Noyce. Will be getting that g90!
5:32 This is what the Lincoln Towncar should've been. I'd love to see a fleet of 2020 G90's being used as limo service in New York. The light bar at the rear would be such a vibe seeing it at night.
Dude who doesn't like those wire spoke wheen design? WHO!? DUDE! Those wheels are boss! The current G90 looks like it's a bad guy's/mafia boss' car in a movie set in an alternate futuristic 50's. Honestly this design blows away the 7 series and the S class. Maybe not in features and tech but definitely just by how it looks.
Impressive. Absolutely impressive designs. Look at this 7:50 daaaaang
Honestly, I’m disappointed they made the grill shorter or more squished and less shiny compared to the taller and majestic one on the 2020. Even the design of the wheels I prefer the older one over the new one with the crazy interwoven lines. Also the proportions of the green house especially and how the B-pillar is pushing too much to the A-pillar makes it look awkward. Other than that, the design is magnificent.
Yeah the one thing I do wish is that they kept the stately look of the Current grill. It's very imposing. Other than that, she's basically perfect
has any US pricing been released yet?
Nope, I hope they give us at least a release date
wow. this is absolutely stunning
...and BMW and other car companies should teach '' Genesis'' not to steal their designs next time.
Genesis did not steal BmW's mechanical problems. Only steal exterior design lol
@@TomTomdog genesis hasn't sold any cars yet how do you know? Relax, brother. Everything breaks down in this life. Remember Toyota,"the best build car in the World"?! Only when you see them recalling cars every 6 months? Relax, tommy. Frankie says Relax.
@@spirokaci genesis sold cars more than 5 years buddy. Do your research
I really like that 2020 rims, pretty original, always hated the "flat rim" desing most brands are taking today
I have always preferred the G90 GENESIS conservative superior exterior design. What has changed in the interior design of the 2023 special edition ?
Geo.Onyeukwu MD
The best looking full size sedan I’ve seen since the first infinity Q45
I'm not sure if I like the design of the 2023 model. It's looking like an Audi A8 in the front. IMO, I'd pick the 2017 model over anything they made before or after.
So I went to test both G80 and G90 and I felt like I wish G80 interior would be in G90. There we are. They are even coming with better one. I`ll wait for another year.
Awesome I really like what Hyundai/Genesis is making right now!
This 3rd Generation has a very futuristic and cool look about it, almost as if pulled out from cyberpunk 2077
lol if u look at the genesis g70(the new model), and u bring ur eyes to the front bumber/ fioglights area.
you will notice it looks very similar... well because ur correct! the front bumber has been copy and pasted from the Bentley Continental GT
Love the content, but having a humidifier right next to your electronics doesn't seem like a very smart idea.
Gotta have whip appeal and the Genesis line definitely has it!!! Down to their rims...💯😍👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Tbh this car is perfect and didn’t need a redesign
Love the new G90-absolutely beautiful 🤩
I’m not thrilled about them replacing the interior door handles for a button,like what about in emergency situations where the electrical wiring could go out/malfunction in a car wreck etc?
Wait so there's literally no interior door handles? I assumed the buttons were just something you can use if you wanted
there are manual handles as those are required by law.
The G90 was the Hyundai Equus and it had the Rolls Royce type hood emblem. I've been wanting one ever since. NOW I have to get the newest version.
Genesis is a very underrated car company. If people didn't look at Genesis as a Hyundai product, this car would be insane in the car market for USA.
quick note that on some models the exhaust tips match the front grille
Please make a video about the Toyota/Lexus EVs soon!
Are those blue light glasses?
From now on it will be " that car design looks like a Genesis!"
You should really try to BMWfy it, as well as when you Porschefied the GV70. I'd be so curious to see the future 7 series out of this bad boy, since BMW and design aren't a binomy anymore.
Genesis is doing good at simple bold lines. Reminds me of G35.. simple but bold lines, classic beautiful design. (not that the car is amazing itself)
Luc spent a while designing it bud, drives nice too. Very smooth and the lwb is super spacious as well. The two tone language is defo something I enjoy in our cars
Genesis producing the kind of cars that Mercedes Benz used to produce
That rear end looks almost identical to the 2008 CLS Mercedes-Benz... But it is still a beautiful vehicle..
Do a video on the hoonitron. I’m begging you
Dropping the v8 is a big mistake. They could have done a twin turbo v8. I wouldn't by it just because it has a v6. I'll still with the orevious generation. I have a 2014 hyundai equus ultimate and it was the original big body hyundai and the g90 came after it. 5.0 v8.
I actually loved the more reserved styling of the 2017-2019 Genesis G90 before they refreshed it. It looked more elegant. I think they should’ve evolved that design for the refresh model & the second generation
So Amazing... I muts have it❤❤❤❤❤
They know us well after decades of occupation. This is an Oldsmobile. A Korean interpretation of an American car. Stunning.
I LOVE my G80 5.0 V8. It was between a Mercedes cls or the G80. I drove both and much rather have my G80. Way way more options and absolutely just as nice of a car. Plus a 10 yr 100K mile warranty.....
Different class of car man ..
3:52 Damn that looks fine
The rear 3/4 view is 😍
very lovely desigm
South Korean designs in America and rest of world: stronk
South Korean designs for India : not stronk
That's because the American market is the most important for Genesis. India as a market is not worth it to put any considerable effort into it.
I love it, i think they have the best design. I wished they sold in the Philippines
Love you men! Projections of my thoughts as well!
Excellent and Outstanding Analysis!!!
If ppl could really put a side "brand" image, some will literally call it craftsmanship
wow, WOW it is beautiful . Genesis just WOW .....
Genesis really changed up their game with German Designers really beautiful car
They house more non-German designers than the German designers.
Hyundai's car designs have been poppin' off lately...
also kia
Some people want to compare the Genesis to a Bentley or something else and say it's a knock off. If we haven't noticed, cars in the last 20 years all look relatively similar. There's the odd one like the Chrysler 300 that goes for the more boxy look, but every other car looks like every other car. There are very subtle differences. Every car has smooth lines and is very rounded. They're more sporty rather than stately, which exemplifies most luxury cars. They're not luxury cars, they're sports cars. Sports cars are stiff and have great handling and performance. Luxury cars are supposed to be plush, soft and comfortable. But now there are very few examples of a luxury car. Let's be honest - most "luxury vehicles" are just sports cars with tech and leather seats, because apparently all car buyers are either 16 year olds, men in midlife crisis, soccer moms and people into "cute cars." To call a car a sophisticated luxury car for older people is like a swear word these days. Nobody wants to be that older businessman with a bad back from sitting at a desk all day and needs a soft, comfortable car to drive around. So those cars barely exist anymore. It frustrates me as someone who had scoliosis surgery. I had my sporty cars. I've grown up, my back hurts and I want something that won't cause me further pain. The 2 best cars I ever owned were my 1990 Chrysler Fifth Avenue that had the most comfortable interior I've ever seen but didn't last long, and the Chrysler 300C with AWD. Then I bought a Mercedes and ended up having to take Tylenol every day, so I sold it. Not a joke.
I have to admit, whilst I am not the biggest fan of the massive grill (same goes for BMW, Lexus and Toyota, though), if I were to be a CEO of a big company, I would definitely go for the G90 and G70 to form a fleet. They look so luxurious and much more affordable than mercedes. Not taking any off mercedes but I think they do currently have an identity crisis and that they are the common choice.
proportions on the short wheelbase version are much nicer to me.
The rear lights are like a Bentley Mulsanne.
I saw a G80, it was large, big and long. Bigger than any previous car.
Very retro-modern-looking design both inside and outside; clean yet sophisticated. I simply love it. Hyundai finally found the right DNA for Genesis design. But I'm disappointed that they removed the V8.
I prefer Volvo’s idea of minimal design. If you’re going to forgo aggressive styling, I’d prefer they didn’t use so many shiny chintzy bits to supplement the look of luxury and stateliness.
10:10 Yes, that's the first G90, in 2017, successor to the Hyundai Equus.