So THIS is how they make this Ebike Legal! PVY Z20 Plus Review
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So THIS is how they make this Ebike Legal! PVY Z20 Plus Review
This electric bike is the fastest '250w' ebike I've tried. If you want to buy an electric bike that will get you places on time and get you up steep hills but also allowing you to call it legal then the PVY Z20 Plus is the ebike for you.
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What do you recommend, this or the Engwe Engine Pro? Please brother, I wanna buy one of them but I’m really unsure. Stuck in a huge dilemma…
ENGWE🥞🥓
I just bought this. Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 is out of stock. This is better than the Engine Pro 1.0 . The v2.0 is obviously better but it's sold out and I couldn't wait for it to come back to sales so I got the z20plus. Its very fast and reliable so I don't mind
Z20 plus 1000 to be precise
Hello. Please how do I take the battery out so I can charge it
Thank you for providing the discount code. I purchased one two months ago and I'm very satisfied. Next, I plan to buy one for my wife.
Glad you like it. It's a great bike. And ebike rides are lots of fun 😊👍
Your Mrs doesn't currently have a Himiway Zebra D5 up for sale on ebay by any chance ?
@@1chickenpig Not mine
@@e-VRC sorry mate for the confusion. The question was for Sebastian above. Hope you are well and looking forward to your next bikes.
I'm excited to share that I've recently purchased my first e-bike,PVYZ20 Plus.As a beginner, I'm still learning the ins and outs of its operation. I'm using it for deliveries here in the UK, and I'd greatly appreciate your guidance on setting up all the POs from 1 to 20. Your expertise would be invaluable in helping me understand and efficiently use my new e-bike. Subscribed!
How's it going?
Had my eye on Engwie L20 but the foldability of the PVY just wins it for me.
Hoping to get mine when the weather improves in a month or 2.
Uk based as well. Would like to hear you are both getting on
Finally some decent competion for engwe. Only problem is that they are falsely advertising these ebikes as 250W. It's the label on the wheel that matters. If it says 1000w then thats all the police and law courts will be interested in.
Agreed about the competition. Anyone going 15.5 on this is never going to get into trouble. Maybe if they're not pedalling going over 20 but not someone who to their own kowledge is complying with the law.
Not technically true, the legislation covers maximum continuous power output and pretty much every single e-bike motor on the planet, even those few actually designed for 250w continuous, have a peak output much higher. Obviously that's not the case with the bike in this video, but the vast majority of manufacturers do what this company does now as it's probably just not economically viable for them to make 250w specific motors. Most companies will throw in a bigger motor and electronically limit it to comply with restrictions in the target market.
In my eyes, and probably in the eyes of most police officers, it's like owning a Bugatti in the UK. Your car has huge power and is capable of insane speeds but you're not going to get pulled over if you are driving sensibly and within the law, same thing for bikes like this I would think. I am sure if some forces wanted to they could crack down and pull some folks over and word would get around but that would be overkill. Trading Standards sometimes see things differently and they could prosecute the manufacturers as could the DVSA who have actually already done so in the case of Mate E-Bikes.
@@kevinh96 ☝️👍
Z20 PLUS is a 1000W motor.
When shipped from the factory, we limit the power to 250W to comply with public road requirements,
The user can then unlock it themselves and return the power to 1000W.
@@e-VRC Nothing to stop them going down a steep hill at 20 or 25 gravity would take over. The 15.5 is the limit for power assist, if you can pedal d=aster no problem, so if you are doing 20 and pedaling even ghost pedaling plod won't likely give a second look.
Great advice great review greetings from Stafford ❤
@@michaelvincent8306 cheers 👍
Hi. I discovered your channel a couple of months ago while researching ebikes. I love the content and have ordered the pvy plus 1000 today.
Your code saved me £86 (100 euros converted)
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Thanks very much' glad you're enjoying the channel. Enjoy the freedom! 🤟🤟
Thanks for the reviews just decided to buy one.
No problem you'll love it 👍
@mellbenham6809 how is your bike since you got it? considering buying it myself
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Hey, I just bought a Z20 plus 1000 and I used your discount code for -€100. Thanks 😊
Awesome! It's a great bike, enjoy!
Thanks bro😊 @@e-VRC
@@e-VRC I just received the bike. It's so nice but I've a problem. The chain skips. The gear change isn't smooth. I'm sure it can be adjusted but I have no clue how. Please can you help me out?. Thanks🙏
Just got it set at a bike shop. It's so good now. Normally I'll advice you to take it to a bike shop asap so it gets sorted @@applecorp
It's a great bike. It's so fast and reliable. It travels very far as well on single charge
How did you enable the throttle? Just got mine and mine doesn't seem to work?
I have this bike and I like it. After the first rides I changed the saddle, the original looks comfortable but he is not if pedal longer ways. Maybe it is ok when you use the throttle, but this is not allowed in Germany. The next part I changed was the rear suspension. I used a air suspension that really works, the original had no effect for me. Now I am almost happy. I would prefer a „Drehmomentsensor“ ( I do not know the english name) as PAS, it would work more natural. A little bit disapointed am I from the batterie. They say maybe a range of 120km with the big one, I have always only about 50 to 60 km (ok my weight is 100kg)
Torque sensor?
Definitely the kind of 250w motor I'm looking for. 🙂
can you use this PVY Z20 PLUS 1000 in the uk or will i get pulled by the police
After watching this review i ordered one , talk about fun , and your code still works brilliant many thanks , but how about doing a quick video on how the bloody display works , i only seem to be getting power assist in mode 3 , nothing in 1or 2 and how do you set the time , the manual that comes with this is to basic or I'm just thick , keep up the good work it's a fun channel to watch 😂
Thanks for watching! And glad you like the bike. Unfortunately I don't have mine to do a video about the computer but you just hold the up and down buttons and cycle through the options. I don't remember which options are which but they're usually fairly recognisable.
Sorry to bring you a bad shopping experience,
If you encounter any problems during use,
Please contact the after-sales support email,
The staff will provide you with solutions,
Please rest assured that PVY will be responsible for users to the end.
Mate when will you compare it to the Engwe Engine Pro?
I wanna buy something while there is black friday discount
Doing a comparison video in 3 videos time.
could you tell me how to remove the handgrip and add the throttle please
@@Seanthemepark mine was already on I think. Some throttles need to have a screw loosened and others you just pull off
As the motor magnet set gets stronger with technology power output will increase for less power input so bang goes the law limit of 250 watts controlling power.
Human power bikes are allowed unlimited speed but are more difficult to stop at higher speeds than an e-bike with fat tyres and hydraulic braking.
All bike laws should be reviewed for today's riding.
which is better, this bike, or the engwe L20 ?
or do you have another fat tyre foldable you can recommend ?
This one is more powerful but the L20 is more convenient. Depends on what you want.
I used to get over 30 on my 250w Ebike, but i was peddling like crazy and going downhill
Even on my first ebike which was a crappy 250w Halfords Carrera one I could do the same. Long downhill on my way home from work which I could maintain 30mph for over a mile. Now I have 1500w bike though I can reach nearly 50mph going down that same hill which is actually over the speed limit.
I take it the battery is also in the box when it comes........isn't it? I have just ordered one in vibrant orange, so I hope it comes with the battery lol
Haha yes it does 😅
Hello just brough this bike and if it dose 74.5 mile. In the gear 1 to 7 can i safe battery if you know what i mean so like if gear 1 is like normal bike and gear 2 is little help from the battery
Have been looking at conversion kits for my bike, this one looks a better option I have a 1:10 hill down, and same to climb back up going home so deffo need power assist. This would fit in car boot so park outside a ULEZ and ride in. This would be OK to do 25 to 30 mph down that 1:10 hill on an arterial road in Drakeford's crazy 20mph then.
Depends on the conversion kit and the original bike but yeah this takes that hill easy 👍
@@e-VRC Will check it out certainly ticks some boxes especially in Drakefords' busted 20 limit Wales my 7 mile commute is almost entirely on 20 mph roads with half a mile at 30.
I'm surprised you have to park outside an ulez as it's almost impossible now to find a second hand car that doesn't comply with it.
@@dtz1000 I don't live in a ULEZ I live in rural Wales and my car definitely isn't compliant.being 22 years old aluminium bodied and capable of 80 plus mpg on a run, sadly 55 mpg round town is now 30 mpg due to 20 limit in Wales.
@@e-VRC Before I pull the trigger and order one of these, as it looks like its pretty much ideal, for what I need, what's it like to pedal with no assist, and does it pedal positively or ghost pedal like an Eskuta 250?
I've never seen a 250 watt bike perform like that. I'd say ot's more like 1000 watts personally.
Of course it is, but they just say it's 250w so they can sell it in the UK and Europe.
Z20 PLUS is a 1000W motor.
When shipped from the factory, we limit the power to 250W to comply with public road requirements,
The user can then unlock it themselves and return the power to 1000W.
😉
an ordinary bicycle can last ten years, light to medium use, but signs would start after 3-5 years.
what would the lifespan be on this hub, battery and controller
I would not fancy spending £500 or whatever in 5 years time wether pvy or enguie or even specialized
This might help. I bought an Ado af20 about 20 months ago, and only yesterday the motor has packed in, and I bought it brand new for £860. If I replace the motor with the wheel, it will cost me £300.
@@jayr8697 oh heck. What was you daily/weekly mileage
@@johnsouthwales1078 36 miles a week.
I just had a coswheel with similar motor and display in my workshop with over 30 000 km on it
If your in gear 1 to 3 is that you ride it like normal bike
More torque than my Engine X. The joy of the Engwe Engine X though is that 250w markup on the 750w motor.
My Engwe Engwe Pro although the motor is marked up as a 750w is far more fun though if you’re not bothered about Officer Law. 😂
What does the Engine x top out at without pedalling?
@@e-VRC that said, I blew the cobwebs off of my dual motor Engwe M20 today. It’s an animal. ruclips.net/video/2ZMlP-JaqVA/видео.htmlsi=nMDmq8lLOv6radYW
PVY Z20 PLUS is equipped with a 1000W motor,
Factory limited to 250W to meet public road requirements.
Users can unlock it themselves when needed.
@@pvyebike send me one, I’ll review it up against the Engwe Engine X … 😂
Hiya mate, totally up in the air about all these folding fat tyre bikes, trying to whittle down the pros and cons.... I do have some concerns about '750w' and '1000w' being printed anywhere on a bike in case of getting pulled/checked, and it's not a case of riding it like a dickhead either tbh - I just know what north Wales police are like, notorious for focusing on petty traffic stuff to earn easy brownie points.... 🙄 So do you mean on the Engine X, there's no written indication of it being higher powered, it actually says that it's 250w on it? Cheers for any advice here mate! Also @pvyebike , I read on another comment here that a recently bought Z20 1000 Plus now has 250w written on the rear wheel, rather than 1000w, is this correct? And do you get any certification, just as a back up? Thanks a lot 🙂👍
More like 1000 watts I have 500 watt 48 volt escooter and that will go 28mph bearing in mind I weigh 63kg and my scooter weighs 30kg
Can anyone tell me if this bike has a hole under the bottom bracket so it can be converted to a torque sensor. (I'd rather not have to drill a hole if possible)
I wanna get this bike but there are so many negative reviews online😢
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I thought you sounded familiar, turns out your the guy that convinced me to get a Quest 2 on your other channel! Now I'm on the verge of ordering this thing...! Does your EVRC100 code still work?
@@applecorp Get a free bag though if I order it now and just means I need to wait.
Gonna grab one I reckon!
Looking carefully you will find several 1000w engine with no mark on it so when limited electronically to 25 km/h it’s legal in Europe and uk.
Not entirely true, years ago in UK court they came to the conclusion that apparently a motor with the speed limited isn't allowed just because people could easily unlock the full potential.
Quick question my ebike has a 250 bafang motor could you put a 500w motor and use same connection's. My bike is an eskute netuno thanks in advance
Hiya I’ve been trying to find information about pvy and how long the company has been making bikes. I see that engwe has been around for around 10 years so a pedigree of sorts is evident. PVY is a cheaper and lighter alternative but I have a question about the pedal assist. I understand how the torque sensor on the Engwe engine pro 2.0 works. Am I right in thinking that if I pedal slowly on the PVY z20 plus 1000 with maximum assistance, it will simply continue to accelerate to its maximum speed (for the conditions)?
That's right. If you don't want it to go max speed just put it in a lower assist level. Torque sensors are good for setting off say up a hill if you don't have a throttle. They're also good for people who want the bike to feel more like a normal bike. Lazier people like me actually secretly prefer the cheaper cadence sensor like on this bike. As long as there's a throttle to aid setting off of course.
hey, i live in lisbon witch is a city with many hills and steep ones. i have a decalthon ebike but im on the fence to get one of these, would you think that this one vs the engwe Pro would be better for many hills? lucky that in portugal 1000w motor are allowed.
YES, I have purchased PVY PLUS 1000. After unlocking, it has 1000W power and 100 Nm of torque. It can climb slopes of about 25 degrees.
@@SamuelSegat6314: 100 Nm of torque is phenomenal. You must love your bike
@@robinarden8877 Yes, I really enjoy Cycling and I find it brings a lot of joy to my life.😊
Am I missing something here ? Surely if you pedal like hell of course you can get to 30mph so can I on mine, if fact any E-Bike will go that fast and more if you assist with pedalling.
I tend to do it on all bikes just to see how well the motor and mechanics work together. All bikes aren't engineered equally and I've reached higher speeds on some less powerful bikes than others with larger motors. I'll always show how fast they go without power from me as you'd expect any reviewer to.
@e-VRC, What do you recommend, this or the Engwe Engine Pro? Stuck in a huge dilemma…
Depends what you want. This has a bit more utility but it doesn't fold and is a bit slower
This is the choicest bike in its class imho but…
To be uk legal doesn’t the hub motor need to be labelled 250 watts?
It's not about the label. Labels can help get you out of trouble sure. If you're going 20+ mph and get stopped it doesn't matter what the label says. If you're not riding dangerously you won't get pulled over but if you do and your speed is limited to 15.5mph and throttle disabled then you can just show them the pvy webpage that says 250w.
The label on the motor now is 250W
Please advise what better this or a engwe pro l000w.
The code doesn’t work anymore ? :(
Try ‘RE100’ I got it from another video 👍🏻
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Too temptin to be an un-sensible rider 😂😭
Yeah it's so hard going 16 when you know you can do more.
Been contemplating between the z20 plus 1000 and the engwe pro. My sway to this is the torque. This has almost double the torque. Does that translate in real world use.
This is a better hill climber. I've just recorded a comoarison video that should be out in a couple of weeks.
@@e-VRCplease bro can you post it this week, the Black Friday discounts finishes soon and I desperately need a new bike… Really unsure whether to buy this or the Engwe Engine Pro
Would you say that this bike is better overall than the Engwe L20?
In terms of performance definitely. But i love the step thru of the l20
and the front tray is handy.
L20 shit the bed after 5 months and the seat post started to bend and im not the heavy
Great vid. How fast can the 500 version go?> (is it the same motor, but software tamed? or a totally different motor?)
Thanks. Good question. I imagine it's different since it's cheaper.
After the PLUS 500 is unlocked, the motor power is 500W and the maximum speed can reach 38km/h.
where to buy this in UK? also whats the main difference between 500 and 1000?
They reckon it's about how many watts when unlocked. You can get it from their website.
This is 1000 watts actuality
Whaaaat!???? 😂😂
@@e-VRC @e-VRC, What do you recommend, this or the Engwe Engine Pro? Please brother, I wanna buy one of them but I’m really unsure. Stuck in a huge dilemma…
If it says 1000 on the motor. Aren't you still fucked if you're pulled over even if you don't have it unlocked??
There is no power marked on the motor, just the product model.
No one's pulling over an ebiker riding at 15.5 anyways.
@@pvyebikeit says 48v20" 1000 on the hub in the video. 7 mins 12 secs
@@e-VRCit's not a case of that. If an incident occured wether someone came into the bike or vice-versa or some reason why the want to check the legality.
All they are concerned of is a bike does no more than 15 mph and 250w motor.
If a motor is 500w 750w 1000w and limited to 15.5 mph on the controller, then it is doing 15.5 mph. A suppressed motor that acts as a 250w.
Only two ways to do it. Manufacture a motor as 250w to do 15.5 mph or use a bike computer to limit it to 15.5 mph for road use.
But people are allowed to alter the settings to do 20 mph off road with a higher motor, so they have to have changeable settings otherwise they need two bikes, one for road and one for off road or taking their bike with them when on holiday.
What could happen is someone goes off road and sets it at 30 mph, then when they go back on road, they forget to change it back and if there is an accident after, then they start looking
If someone forgets to switch the setting back to road use, the bike itself is still legal, the actions of the rider is not.
We all know it's a contentious issue.
Probably police cannot tell the difference if someone changes the settings to 20 mph and a rider is doing 18 mph on road.
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Am 6ft 2inch would it be big enough?😊
Yes, it is suitable for your height.
Trying to add 2 to my basket but its not working!
Uk?
yes@@e-VRC
Hi..i really want to know about the customer service of PVY?..If I have a problm in future..is there anyone who purchased it?
Hi，I have purchased it, and PVY's support is active. It may be delayed due to weekends, but they are always eager to answer my questions.
Is L20 still your favourite bike? 👍
One of. But I swapped it for 2 esk8s. My new favourite is the one in my next video.
How tall are you? I struggle to reach the ground
5'9
@@e-VRC And you don,t find it too high?
I am 6ft and cant reach the ground.
Anyone know how to switch it to mph?
sandy lane no throttle?
Yes
i wanna get an ebike to get to work but theirs so many how am i suppose to know what one to go for? my budget is around 1500 quid :x
Take your range, speed, size, folding needs into account. Also if you want a true slow 250w ebike, one advertised at 250w but much faster with unlocks or one that is advertised at 750+ watts. This bike is a good start though
@@e-VRC okay i need to go 7.4 miles each way im around 13.5 stone i live kinda rural yorkshire though lots of hills so probs a good one thanks for reply xD
@@Unown_B and do you worry about it being over 250w and having police take it off you? Will you go fast on it or happy to stick below 20?
@@e-VRC i think id be too spooked to go super fast tbh lol but like u said the chances of that happenin are low so
is it me but it looks alot like the ENGWE ENGINE PRO
Why does nobody review these as they are meant to be used with just pedal assist, would love to know how many miles you can get actually pedaling with assist on.
Probably because they'd need to ride 100km every time. I think you're more likely to get reviews like that from people who have bought it as their first bike and don't have to review a lot of vehicles. Every now and then though i may do a 'challenge' like that 👍
@@e-VRC that would be a great video to watch
@@siimot I'll see what I can do 👍
60-65 km Average
Have you tried a Himiway Cruiser UK spec up that hill. Would be interesting to see what time that posts.
Not yet. Waiting for their call 😂
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Engwe Pro azer bike is amazing but his garbage along term quality wise.
I'm still going through a massive argument about the rear frame actually shearing making the bike unraidable I cannot recommend this bike
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In denmark cars cant drive over 50 in Citys
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The enguie l20 isn’t 250 watts it’s 750 what’s bro
'Another supposed 250w ebike' 😉
Ahh I see thxs for the information 👍
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I’m so confused!!! I initially wanted the Engwe l20 but then decided I needed a folding bike. Then I saw this and loved but then came across the engwe folding (pro engine not sure but it had 8 gears , you reviewed it) and now I have no idea which bike to buy. 😂HELP.
Haha they're all great. If you need a folder then you get better gears on the engine pro but other than that they're pretty equal.
Probably I would too. Personally I would mind a 24 speed MTB with assist and throttle but they seem to be becoming extinct and things are shunted down to 7 gears even in this type of bike. Pedaling with 24 gears is better than 6, 7, 8 or 9 after cut off. Even 18 gears is better than 8.
Engine X is good too
@@e-VRCthe PVY is 10 kg lighter than the Engwe Pro, does it make a huge difference? I’m going to peddle it as well
Been looking for you need a bike lol got any for sale m8 it's me that waved with kids on hill lol
On sandy lane? I hope I waved back! I usually end up selling the bike after review on FB marketplace. You should contact on ig or email to check after a review if you like the look. Selling Avaka R1 next. Was going to do a full review but they don't seem to sell the bike anymore and they aren't responding to my emails.
@e-VRC hi yes sandy what's your email address
DO NOT BUY THIS BIKE.
It's of very poor quality. It may look nice and work well for the first few months, but then you'll start seeing problems. I've had mine for over 6 months. After the first time I folded it, the handlebar folding pin came off in my hand. The battery no longer charges fully, and with the little charge it does hold, I can't go more than a couple of kilometers. The charger doesn't work properly anymore either. To top it off, the customer service is awful and slow. They take weeks to respond. I'm still waiting to hear what I should do now that the bike is unusable. Spend a few hundred euros more on another product because it will definitely be worth it.
Sorry to bring you a bad shopping experience,
If you encounter any problems during use,
Please contact the after-sales support email,
The staff will provide you with solutions,
Please rest assured that PVY will be responsible for users to the end.
Your peddle like mad to get that speed wheres the enjoyment of the bike you don't ride a bike like that it shoud just come naturally the bike you need is 1500wat or 2000wat
Dunno if you kept watching but i got 26 with no power from me which is a good speed, lighter people probably get 28. 33mph is a better headline than '26 maybe 28' plus I like to see if the gears allow you to help.
Yes I think its definitely only 250w theres lots of 250w ebikes that can do 30mph they all can I think 😉😉
Z20 PLUS is a 1000W motor.
When shipped from the factory, we limit the power to 250W to comply with public road requirements,
The user can then unlock it themselves and return the power to 1000W.
😂😂😂
This is not good.
Yeah it is
What would you personally recommend between this and the engwe l20?
If you don't need a step thru and extra cargo then probably this. I prefer the frame of the L20 but the z20 plus has higher spec gear.
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