Ubisoft Erased The Crew Forever... But YOU Can Bring It Back!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- The Crew has officially been taken offline this month. This makes the game inaccessible for the foreseeable future. To bring it back and prevent this from happening in the future, check out: www.stopkillinggames.com/
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0:00 What is happening with The Crew?
1:32 Why should we care?
3:18 What made The Crew special
6:28 Developers deserve respect
8:01 Community can't fix everything
9:58 This could get worse
11:15 Stop killing games
12:47 The time to act is NOW
13:26 Game preservation matters 
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I think it's worth mentioning that this campaign was launched by Ross Scott who made a video on his channel explaining in detail why he's doing this and how can we help. The channel name is Accursed Farms.
aye shoutout to Polish Jesus 🎅🏻
Well if they do it for pc I hope they can save the Playstation 4 version
@@antbobtyler2381 It's not only about The Crew itself but also any game that can share similar fate in the future. If you own the game and can prove it, then you can help.
@jankesowski6481 yes like need for speed 2015 I don't care for the story but I like the customization and driving in it
@@antbobtyler2381 This is for ALL versions of The Crew!
We need a crew to bring back the Crew
Can I join? 😢
You sunnovabitch im in
we have one already, the crew unlimited, there's already a discord for it
I see the title makes even more sense after 10 years later
We definitely need to bring it back. I only bought it with all its DLC in December, I hadn't even got around to launching the game yet, and now I find this out... I was really looking forward to it as well...
I liked the fact that the Crew 1 had an actual story instead of the whole overused racing festival thing.
And the crew 1 map was far better than crew 2, Look at chicago for example they removed landmark buildings due to copyright action, But they could of implemented it in the game if it wasn't for greed.
I hate the stupid festival stories in modern racing games
@@AlternateKek we all do man, getting too oversaturated with the crew 2 and motorfest. i think forza horizon is the one to blame, they kinda just stick it with the car festival formula and think it doesnt need to be improved
@@ziqqerlad True, but then again, Forza didn't come up with the Car/Music festival hybrid. Before Forza Horizon it was Motorstorm (PS3 launch title so predates FH1's release) or even NFS ProStreet
the crew 2 should've been the festival thing, but with an actual plot. Like some gang thats in the shadows of the event, pulling strings and being awful and you get hired to infiltrate the festival. Would've made the game a whole lot more enjoyable. Now it sits in my account with 8h played...
The festival thing on its own works for Forza horizon because it's a super solid driving game, the crew just isn't. Idk how anyone thought it could do what Forza horizon did.
I bought the game, mainly for the aspect of "visiting" the US without leaving my own country. After finishing the story, all I did was sightseeing.
I did the exact same thing, I honestly thought I would not like the map given how it's generally not that detailed, but boy was I wrong - just sightseeing many areas of the game was easly my favorite thing to do
even as an american it was fun to drive around the general area where I live and visit other cities. The USA is huge and the first game's map was a lot better imo
@@Cheezuswait! Did they change anything about it?
It was a lot of fun driving through the Redux US, some of the soundtrack was really good.
The story was also not that bad, pursuits were fun.
I never thought they would just erase the game, till february i thought it would be just like GTsport, no more special events, MP, just you, the map and the normal cops.
The crew 2 sucks and Motorfest is more like Forza.
me too, I didn't even played the story, just visiting virtual USA, I had a lot of fun... so sad
Ubisoft removing The Crew says a lot about them.
they are probably making more server room for motorfest.
Look at NFS World
Its already dead but the community continue makes it alive
Im sure The Crew will get the same
@@eizlaniskandar7946 I hope the community keeps it alive.
@@ultrapro8937they are working on it.
STOP BUYING UBISOFT GAMES!
Hey, thanks a bunch for the mention! The more people who are able to file complaints on this, the better our odds are authorities look at it. Also, ALL Germans can file complaints on this with the Verbraucherzentrale, not just owners of the game, we have instructions on the site.
orale, this should get pinned
Thank you for doing this Ross.
i owned tc1 in physical, and its crazy how i just cant play it anymore
Hey you can use it as a drink coaster at least that's what I'm going to do with my copy it's simultaneously hilarious and tragic
If you bought it digitally, you wouldn't have caused unnecessary waste 🎉
@@TheRealCatof ubisoft should have thought about that and either not made the game physical or just patch the game to work offline.
@@TheRealCatof hey man how was i supposed to think about that in 2014
@@shrek9025If you still have the physical copy, you can get your money fully refunded. Go to the website in the description and follow the instructions. You need to contact Ubisoft as instructed, and then wait 2 weeks before contacting some French consumer rights organization who will give you your money back
Ubisoft is trying really hard to snatch the title of the "most hated company" from EA
Exactly, and they're already worse than EA in terms of game preservation. At least they got back to their senses and had abandoned the idea of an online-only game since Need for Speed Payback 2017. Another EA game.
EA is legit infinitely better than Ubisoft. At least their storefront works lol. I hate EA but nowadays I straight up refuse to buy any more Ubisoft games because their service is so horrendous. The Uplay app I mean Ubisoft Connect is literally just the UNO machine now lol
They always raced about it
They already most hated company. ea lost the crown
Ubisoft is already worse. I think it’s because EA is actually capable of making functional games (WRC probably helps though)
The funny thing is, an official offline patch would have been a no brainer, hell, Polyphony did it with Sport, with some minor caveats but still playable. That and some much older racing games are still online, like Ridge Racer 6 & 7
I think the biggest worry for a lot of fans is that if the players themselves create their own offline patch then Ubisoft will pull a Nintendo and sue the people trying to revive The Crew. Sure, EA didn't do that when players revived NFS World but the difference is that EA never released a sequel to NFS World. Whereas Ubisoft released 2 sequels to The Crew and they might consider an offline patch for The Crew 1 a threat to their sales of The Crew Motorfest and whatever new Crew games they might release years later.
GT5 GT6 GTSport were online only games (afaik) and they had sequels aswell.
@@Hushio-Hero GT5 & 6 were never online only, GT Sport was and needed a patch to play offline, Ditto for 7
Edit: unless you mean the GT Academy demos etc where they needed online for most of the stuff to work at all
Fun fact. The crew 1 has a offline mode but it’s not accessible
That honestly just makes it worse.
@@xfiqf2812 yeah it's just an extra proof that they're shutting it down on purpose to make us play TC2 and TCM
It will be available, I have hope and I trust the modders !
If you disconnect while playing the game then you're in offline mode. And the game can save your progress on the hard drive
@@blvckskull7954 I'll have to test that out, but when the game did work, and, at some occasions, I got disconnected from online, it was straight back to the intro screen, so, i'm not sure about that.
It's like how Driver San Francisco was pulled from every store not even like 5 years after it came out. Ubisoft really has a bad track record with racing games.
Here's the thing. One thing is delisting a game, another is rendering the game INACCESSIBLE for people who paid for the game in the first place.
Driver: San Francisco can still be downloaded and played by those who have bought the digital copy. Only people locked out are those who didn't buy it in time, and the delisting is down to the obvious reason: real world car brand licensing. But notice that detail: people who already purchased the game can still access it after it was delisted. This will be important in the next point.
The Crew, despite being pushed as this MMO, can essentially be Solo'ed in every single thing apart from playing the cop role in crate delivery missions (basically this means 90% of the game could be played offline), AND people had to pay upfront for access to it in the first place (people who got it for free on the Ubi Club like me are out of the discussion so I'm talking in support of those who paid). Those who paid for it should at the very least maintain offline access to their copy of the game as a post-End of Life patch akin to what GT Sport had, since Ubisoft and Ivory Tower clearly refused to go down the Hellgate London/Test Drive Unlimited path (Offline+Online) or Forza Horizon/Burnout Paradise path (seamless offline/online). Those examples I mentioned still work without an internet connection, TC1 does not.
Oh, and since this whole campaign started, Ubisoft went beyond shutting down TC1's servers, and has now removed the game's support page so that you can't directly make the support ticket required for filing the complaint to that consumer protection agency mentioned in the website Eden talked about in the video. Oh, and to rub salt on the wounds you can't even download the game from your Ubisoft account anymore, meaning they haven't just delisted the game from the store, they're *triggering the killswitch for the game on every single Ubisoft player account that has it*.
In this showcase of damage control I think Ubisoft might just be digging the grave deeper on this matter.
Millions and millions of copies, now paperweights. It's a disgrace to the devs, the players, and consumers in general...not to mention the environmental impact - how many people out of the millions who have physical copies are gonna hear the news and just throw it away, cause they don't care?
Also, as a citizen of the U.S., it is pretty hilarious that France allows more recourse for our consumer rights than our own government. Maybe next time GT4 Randomizer serves up a shitbox Citroën, I might just be a little more alright with it...
As a french citizen I'm not surprized, in Europe most people know that the US will always side with lobbies and big companies. It's just how the US are, don't expect the US gov to care about any of its citizens
It's honestly a shame because I still have my physical copy
Boo hoo environmental nobody cares
@@passivevii4052gtfo, you don't belong in this world anyway
@@passivevii4052Boo hoo you're name is literally ass. Now get out of my sight.
What I hate the most is that while The Crew 1 got shut down, The Crew's social media was posting about a limited-time exclusive Motorfest hypercar and how you can get Motorfest on Steam in April 18. No mention of The Crew 1, no mention of an offline patch, nothing.
Hell in the game not only was there no mention of it shutting down the last summit event was scheduled to end a couple days after the shut down so they couldn’t even manage to time that properly. Just 0 Fs given all the way around
I remember NFS world having so much more effort put in when it got shut down, it really says a lot not just about Ubisoft but ivory towers too
@@MrBossFMLI honestly blame Ubisoft way more. It’s hard to believe Ivory Tower would be the main reason TC1 got shut down, that game made the studio blow up in the first place.
It's almost like the game came out a decade ago and they no longer supporting it, or something.
I've always thought that devs should put out patches at EOL that let people play offline, or even let the community run their own servers. We get it, you don't want to maintain the game anymore, but at least have the decency to let people play it still.
We need legal action to fix this problem. The EU needs to strong arm game companies into forcing this positive behavior.
You know it's not for devs to decide, right?
@@Skiptrac3 you can not, releasing server file for a mmo is not like server file for a normal FPS online. My small indie MMORPG had 12 different services running just to let one player play the game, and many of these services I have developed where working ONLY with Digital Ocean and some others ONLY with AWS. I can't imagine how complicated is an infrastructure for an AAA game that needs to be online even if 50.000 players join the game at the same time.
If there will be a legal action to make every online game avaiable to everyone to open a server no one will ever develop a MMO ever again.
@@DavideMoriello If people have reverse engineered WoW’s server code and run Private Servers, any MMO is fair game with enough time and effort.
Exactlyyyy this comment make it offline ffs or peer to peer connection
The Crew: Soul
The Crew 2: Soulless
The Crew Motorfest : Forza copycat
As a person who plays the crew motorfest i see why @indominusrex1652
actually yes but it's even better then forza games now @@indominusrex1652
Seriously....I see the hawaii cop car npcs in the parking lot on motorfest and think instantly of my fond memories in crew 1 being chased by them....the game is lacking so much@@indominusrex1652
I have thousands of hours in The Crew 2 and I agree. No story, no soul, annoying characters.
GT Sport actually did have somewhat of a campaign that was introduced with newer updates (specifically with the Spec 2.0 update in 2019), along with a few mission races & licenses. So, the single player content that it has isn't entirely dry.
@@b.1570 GT Sport had offline support added to it tho, it was EOL but it guarantees ppl can play the game still. NFS 2015 tho, that one is up in the air lol
@@eikeshu So they added offline mode and also offline save games?
@@V3ntilator Yeah, you just can't do online races or make custom liveries for your cars. That and the Mileage currency is almost useless since the Mileage shop doesn't work either if I remember correctly. I've only really played Sport once after the final update to it, so I don't fully remember what all changed.
@@b.1570 GT Sport got an offline patch that make the offline components work, so it's not the same at all
@@michaellago5519 Thank you. At least something is working, but i guess many trophies is discontinued.
The Crew 1 literally filled a void that NFS didn't filled until NFS 2015 came out. Illegal street racing, a gritty story, and a groundbreaking world tech that gives TDU 1 and 2 a run for their money.
Honestly it's the closest thing to a modern TDU and whilst the quality of cars felt lower there was so much more content
Sigh... This is one of the reasons why I hate Live-Service games. I watched Raycevick's 'Making a Game Last Forever' video and I quite agree with it. This is one of the reasons why I support Nightdive Studios and Digital Eclipse. It's criminal that Namco doesn't release a Ridge Racer 5, 7 Remaster, It's criminal that Ubisoft shuts down The Crew 1.
Ridge Racer 6 exist too.
Videogames that can't be owned forever shouldn't be the new normal, videogame corporations shouldn't be allowed to get away with it
Then don't buy, actions speak louder than words.
@@Pappalardium If the solution is to 'vote with your wallet', then the cause is lost.
@@Skeletons_Riding_Ostrichesyea voting with our wallets is pointless because complies are not gonna care if 0.1% of people don’t buy their products
Also the easter eggs, the unicorn, the katy perry one, the whales .... man I loved that game
"Ubisoft revoking licenses for The Crew, preventing owners who paid for the game from installing it." just saw this news
After TC1 dead, and now we'll see what happens next about NEED FOR SPEED 2015.
I still havent conpleted NFS 2015, and its online only as well. I Gotta finish IT Quick.
@@batot3617That's what you think. But you can actually play the game offline, just disconnect your console or PC from the your internet router, then bam! You can play the game offline because it will be forced to go into an offline lobby. I know this because I've done this before. Same goes for NFS Rivals too.
@@batot3617 I've been already since getting that thing at WInter Sale from Steam. Story and Eddie's Challenge have been completed, just except Prestige event.
NFS Rivals as well.
@@channe3049you can still play offline in Rivals btw
Now all we need is Driver: Francisco back...
Driver: San Francisco can be played offline.
@@Peelster1 not what they meant
Old console and a disc. Driver:sf was one of the reasons why I started collecting 7th console gen games.
Driver: San Francisco is back, the servers randomly got turned on awhile back and according to Reddit r still on
@@victorykingpin3674 It's important to distinguish the difference. The Crew cannot be played at all. Other games that can be played offline are not considered "gone" for the purposes of this topic.
RIP The Crew 1 sad
What you're saying about other industries is true and it's already happening. Without getting into details, companies go more and more into "don't care about the customer" mode and basically want us to spend more money on their products. Without any exaggeration, they want to control us: what we do, what we buy and what we use.
If we don't speak up, they will keep doing stuff and it will get worse and worse over time. It's about time we tell those companies why they exist in the first place.
Oh no… anyways last week I heard that nobody cares
@@slapshotjack9806 Oh, no... anyways last week I heard that you now need to pay to log into youtube.
@@The_Unpunished uuuuuh what?
Agreed! When Gran Turismo 7 was released, I was very upset to find out that it's online only, despite having a lot of single player content. If Sony and Polyphony releases a Gran Turismo 8, and it's online only, and the servers to Gran Turismo Sport and 7 shut down, we have to boycott Gran Turismo 8 until Polyphony releases an offline patch to Gran Turismo Sport and 7.
EDIT: I watched the video to the end, and he said that Polyphony did release an offline patch to Gran Turismo Sport! I didn't know about this! I didn't think they would actually do that! But holy hell, they did! Let's go!!! Woo!! :D
@@Mickelraven The GT Sport offline patch is as barebones as they could've made it, it only enables offline saving, the content from the milage shop and any other content even remotely connected to the online portions is still completely unavailable, they didn't even care to enable the game's lan mode, something they used for the live tournaments...
This is worth uploading on the main channel, so more people can become aware and potentially act on it
10:50 Samsung already did that with the Galaxy Note 7, but I guess it was somewhat justifiable considering those phones had defective batteries that could explode
I'm never paying a cent for any game which has online requirement which makes it possible for the company to one day turn the server off and loose access to it.
This isn't a new thing for Ubisoft. They've deleted a TON of games. Games like HAWX 1 and 2, Endwar, RUSE, and many more are impossible or hard to get now. With those at least you can still get them and play them, but the DLC and some Uplay rewards are inaccessible. For example if you want to use the Super Pershing in RUSE you can't get it on Uplay anymore despite it replacing the Pershing and being an objective upgrade.
The game itself as a racing game was mid at best but it was great at "driving around aimlessly" and was providing great amount of fun, it was one of my favorites to just chill and sink some time in.
That's kind of the reason I'd wanna keep indefinite access to it.
It's still the best ps4 racing game of that era easily and arguably still even now
It is sad to see this game dead, I only played the trial version but the game instantly got me, it was way more mature than the crew 2 and motorfest. All I can hope is that ubisoft reads some feedback about it and makes an offline patch so the game will be playable offline
You have quite a bit of hope left if you think ubisoft will care
Honestly one of my favourite games ever even with how broken it can be, the map is just insane
Need For Speed World was not originally free to play. I purchased it when it was in beta and got some beta vinyls for that. It remained a game that needed to be purchased into the final release. I was a bit upset when it became free to play because I bought it. I'm not sure if I could have asked for a refund when they did that.
As far as the cell phone argument: I had a 2G phone when 2G was no longer supported. I needed to get a different phone for the 3G that all towers were using.
Yes, but that 2G/3G/4G shift came from your government and carrier networks. It didn't come from the Phone Manufacturer. And your phone still works for other functions. Let say, you can still access the Notes App or Calculator App or whatnot.
Besides, phones got old fast. You wouldn't want to use a 1G/2G/3G phone in today. The days of 5G. Heck even phones that are 2018 and older, which are exclusively 4G may not be a good experience now in 2025. With all the OLED burn-in, Battery degradation, and slow processors. A luxury USD $999 phone would lose to a midrange USD $300 phone.
So I'm saying the REALLY old products (eg iPhone 4S to iPhone 3G and older) and standards should be depreciated. But the slightly old products (eg iPhone 11max to iPhone 5) should still be allowed to work normally.
I still own a sealed copy of NfS 2015. Cause i simply never had a computer that coud run any game newer than 2012.
And i want to play it one day. Would be very sad if i would one day open it just to find out I can't olay it cause some stupid Server is offline.
You can play it offline. You'll just have to disconnect from the internet on your device so the game will be forced to put you in a solo offline lobby. The same applies for NFS Rivals too.
Community run Servers will probably still not solve the problem for Console players
Of course!
Console and tweaking are opposite things ;-)
Simple. Get a PC. If I played this on maxed settings with a crappy laptop running a sub budget graphics card (GT 740m) bought in 2011, you could run this on any second hand office HP that you find for $100, maybe less online.
Most of the games that get that kind of treatment run on "current day toasters" so you're not forced to splurge on something beefier.
@OfficialDJSoru But why should I buy a PC to then buy a game I already own just to be able to play it. Whoever took the decision at Ubisoft to shut the game down without giving it an offline patch could also just stop being a massive cunt.
i`m very sad and upset rn. I just learned through this video about the server shutdown and I´m one of those few who actually liked the crew 1 very very much and spent a lot of time in it. it had its shortcomings but I loved it. I just thought about giving it another shot sometime soon since I play Motorfest rn and wanted to compare and now I learn this is not possible anymore (easily possible)... this is sad and I absolutely hate this development of allways on BS. couldnt they at least made a last update where you get the ability to play it in an offline mode...
I finally played through it in February. Bought it when it released and I never finished it until now
I can't stand this always online stuff. The Crew 1 was by far the best game in the series for me. Mainly the story and the single player in general. What I also loved was that you had to uncover the map yourself by discovering it and driving around.
I no longer buy games with an expiration date. Any game that can be taken away from me at any time by shutting down the servers is dead to me. This is especially painful because the new Test Drive is due out in the next few months. Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't have thought twice about buying it. But always online is a big red flag for me.
I got the crew when I was 7 years old as a physical disc on my ps4 to Christmas. I am really sad that they keep doing this, espacially with The Crew. I loved that game when I was growing up. 1 Month before they shot the server down I started to play it again. Just to revisit, without knowing that they will shut the server down. So one day I wanted to play it again and I couldn't. Even tho I own a disc. I hope they bring some kind of offline mode in this game. I enjoyed it so much and it was kind of part of me growing up.
It's also woth mentioning that nowadays when buying a game for example on Steam you only get access to the product, as supposed to buying physical copy of something like Most Wanted 05 and having the abbility to install and activate it without any restriction. You could even sell it afterwards, but now it's unheard of. It's a trick used by publishers to extort customers and it's sad that throught out the years nothing was done about it.
This is a case of justice. They are stealing a product that was paid for and belongs to the buyer, it is a case that needs to be attacked with the help of a lawyer...
The thing is that even if you don't care about a game that gets its plug pulled yourself, there are surely people out there that did love it. Stand with them, because your favourite old game might be on the chopping block next.
Talking about game preservation isn't boring; it's important.
IDK. Why you didn't uploaded that on main chanell. That's hyper important info and we need to be loud or publishers will go even further and shut down our games not in 10 years, but every year.
This.
I know this video is more of a "personal" opinnion.
But being a personal opinnion does not make it an unpopular one. This is quite the news, FOR EVERYONE.
Shout-out Ross Scott
i have been talking aobut this since almost over 15 years as it was a concern i had in game development and preservation and removal of local servers and PTP connections, but i dint expect some games that are offlineplayable would go the way of the dodo to, as cryostasis, outrun 2, shure one can play one portion of the game but the problem still remains that manny cant buy these games anymore and half of the games are unplayable, or sometimes as with a tony hawk game where the disc was a glorefied installer for rest to be patched in with was the actual game now render the game disc completely useless even in offline mode.
I’m going to like, comment, and watch through completely on every single video covering this issue to try and boost coverage. We need more channels to be covering this
Thanks for taking part in this. Needs to be as big as possible!
I wish they did something like what GT Sport did, where they added an offline patch :(
Yh the fact that it had the whole of USA in the game was great, like you said just sightseeing in the game alone is worth to Preserve the game, these Always Online games need to get a Final Update before the Servers shut down to be able to Play Offline, then at the very least us paying Customers can still play the Single Player content.
12:00
As a french person knowing people working at Ubisoft, there are lots of problems with this company such as "political purges", sexual and moral harrassment, crunch (illegal in France more than 48 hours a week)
And even if the laws are quite strict about consumer laws and there are some administrations working to make respect them (DGCCRF), those administrations don't have the means to work properly.
That's a reason why ubi can do this without fearing to be closed by justice.
I may not detail more because it's technical, but I gave my "local" point of view about this section
Thanks for reading :)
Considering the details you provided if more details got exposed later on about how Ubisoft works it would not surprise me if later down the line through some youtube channel a video came out as a documentary-style presentation exposing even more behaviour. I get the impression that there are some serious shady shit they are hiding behind the scenes.
Maybe content creators should start putting a tag in their videos so that everyone who wants to show support can easily find them. Something like #stopkillinggames
I'm amazed by how much effort was put into The Crew with it's scale and the fact they REWORKED the graphics on top of it and decide to throw it away is just appalling. If I were one of the Devs I would of considered my work a waste of time.
I bought NFS 2015 on the PSN Store so I should play it before it's gone. It was only $2, but still want to experience it.
I "own" a copy of The Crew on my Ubisoft Connect account. I've had it for years, but never got around to playing it. Now they've shut down the servers and I can't play the game I "own". I will never purchase another game from them, because you don't actually own anything if they can just switch off the service and the product you bought ceases to exist.
I can understand them closing down the online portion of the game as everyone had to know online portions are not going to last forever. But why can't the single-player mode still work, it doesn't require any online presences so making the single-player story unplayable is completely scummy from them IMO. I'll never purchase another game from Ubisoft - screw them!
"Why dont you just play the Crew 2 if the Crew 1 gets shut down?"
Sure, just give me my money back
Yeah, any game which has microtransactions or even FULL PRICE and + in game purchases/DLCs should have at least offline patches, for preservation, because not only people who played will still interested in games like this, new people who will love the serie they will not be able to try it on their own! Thats really stupid to just killing game because there is "another two"
The Crew is TOO BIG to just be closed and forgotten, TDU and TDU2 are also was too big to be just closed and forgotten, its all part of game history and all this should just gone!? NO WAY!
Well there was a little game called The Grand Tour Game, not sure if it lasted even a single year, but I think that one had some kind of offline mode, though I wonder if all the "videos / scenarios" can be played today if anyone has the copy. Still, I don't think I'll ever figure out the full soundtrack of this game.
I agree with this point. Personally as a indie software/game developer I mostly play old games from when middlemen were not a problem at all. Because times were different and the large AAA studios were managed with fewer staff members. Now you have like 32 different staff members 80 presidents and 8 programmers and 50 graphics designers. They really are working outside of their manifests capabilities. Over ambitious and in the end they cancel everything. So I find old games such as quake 3 or doom 3 more attractive. They were made with care and not focused on "how much money we get in the end" moto. They simply became the elite of gaming forever, because they did not focus on getting there. They focused on the narrative, the quality of it and that they would be functional for generations. Another great example of this would be half-life 2 and max payne 2. Complete masterpieces that changed gaming forever. And both were kind enough to share tools for the community (not the guidelines but the people who form it.) to expand the original piece of software, to even further expand the lifetime of the product, making it more appealing for much more people. The funny fact that these people cared very little of piracy, they became notoriously the most high ranked companies and amongst the most richest. Following the same moto as previously mentioned elites, now there are even more. Rockstar Games, Remedy, 3D Realms, ID Software. All of these companies are elites, because these companies understand the dynamic market and the importance of availability. Where as EA is now struggling because of some bad choices. None of the latest games have been a major success compared to lets say Red Dead Redemption or Counter Strike. Because they care about the players and they don't restrict them who don't have money. They simply explain why its necessary and leave you to decide if you really want to support their ideas or not. And look where they are now. World widely known, even with pirated multiplayer games, they are still making millions over millions and even billions. Because now the rich and poor get along in a space where there are no actual boundaries set directly by capitalism. People really need to start thinking about the betterment of the society. Adding moding as a possibility of the original software is actually a way to make the devs directly communicate with players. This is why the remedy and valve games have so much success. Because they care about their products. Heading even further back to 2000's there are even more great examples of some great games that actually never wanted to make money, but made millions. I know money is what is causing this. Because only greedy people think this way. "Oh my dev's made the crew 2, My server is costing 10k, there is not enough room to keep the profiles of the crew 1. I'll just delete it!" That is just greed from people who don't care about games at all. The only posessions they have is to use the workforce on another title to make more money. That is not the way a real elite thinks. That type of thinking resembles a drug addict waiting for a new dose. I am well aware of many of the big comppanis staff has changed a lot, so this might have caused this, where politics and corruption have simply evaded the space, so that they could further manipulate you through video games. Because the similarities are there. The games are bare in terms of content, and simple enough that a idiot could get some satisfaction out of it. It's sad but I noticed this dumbing down started happen when the studios started making these new over ambitious games, that have a lot of detail, but very little quality. As if the artist have to satisfy the CEO's with beautiful render's in order to get a guarantee for the next salary at all. It looks that wild... My suggestion would be, stop hiring your beautiful friends as the staff. And start thinking, what is good for the IP and how it would stand on its own, even if it lost the development budget. As this is exactly what Max Payne 2 seems to be. The SDK that you are able to download from the internet, enables you basically complete access to the game's engine via a editor that is very similar to Unity. I call it forward thinking and extremely clever. Because even if your game fails in the market, you are now able to self fund it. Add voice acting, model some 3D models, take some photos and you are ready to set up a narrative based cinematic experience that is interactable. I never bought the crew, exactly because I suspected it would fail because of always being online. And it did! It's a shame, because when I played the free version, it was seriously fun and engaging. Therefore I agree with the perspectives of this video.
so we pay for a game then they take it away now they expect us to pay £59.99 for The Crew motorfest only to remove that one 10 years later too this is theft it should be illegal to do this! dirty trick!
I'm Motorfest fan. Never played TC1 but now i see it had unique vibe. You speak so wisely, never even thought about things you have brought to light.
I still played this game 😞, this the 3rd game i love that i lose...
Airmech Arena
Defiance
And now the crew :\
Defiance was awesome played it back on the ps3
Great video bro. Another thing to think about on game preservation down the line, particularly on consoles, is the availability of patches. I watched a video recently speculating the PS3 could go offline in the next couple years. Putting aside how much (or how little) weight that speculation holds, what that tells me is that sometime down the line you’ll never be able to pick up a game you’ve been meaning to play for years and play it in its absolute best, polished, and complete form. Take GT Sport as an extreme example, its great that PD released an offline patch, but if/when the PS4 gets taken offline, anyone wanting to check the game out probably won’t be able to get the offline patch, rendering it equally unplayable as this current situation with The Crew.
it pisses me off that I'll never be able to launch this game to play the single player/campaign ever again... R.I.P. the crew was truly great.
I played the Crew (got it free but don’t remember how) and I enjoyed it, not enough to go hard into it because even then I knew, Ubisoft - live game service… this is going to go away eventually. I think I was still coming off the Need For Speed MMO because I really enjoyed that game. But yeah preservation is very important because now it’s just lost media. I think as gamers, we kind of need to organize around these services either make it so these titles go open source and are handed off to the community to keep it alive, or at the very least, surgeon general warning that sh1t before the start screen, “This is a live service game and may go offline at any given time and will be unplayable.” Even though a lot of us all know this, I don’t think it’s really drilled into our heads that the 60 (now 70 to 80) dollar game that we purchased, may go away at any point because we don’t actually own the game. We just purchased a license to play it, but a license that could be revoked at any given time. That is a bad deal, a bad practice and something we should never stand for.
10:45 Apple did it already, and iirc they got sued for it
They should stop making these online only games. We need games that we can play anytime offline.
We should get more and more RUclipsrs to talk about this campaign, raise awareness as much as possible
I loved that game it is the reason I bought PS4 when I saw the trailer it was a scam trailer but I enjoyed it, Breaking my friend's records, etc..., but when I saw this happened it changed my discussion about buying these 100% online games When I buy a game that means I love it and wanna play it again, not just a waste of money, I still have my PS2 and over 150 CDs playing it often, The Crew 1 I bought it 2 times for me & my friend.
Thankfully a majority of the community has found a way to preserve those old fashioned races in Crew 2 with the race creator I myself preserved Highway child from crew one into Crew 2 I preserved it on PlayStation
The Crew 1 was cool. I had a lot of fun playing it.
I'm so happy this is getting the attention it deserves. But we need more than just eyes on this. We need more hands on this, more people voicing their disdain against Ubisoft, more people signing petitions, MORE!
Thanks to Ross Scott (Accursed Farms) for bringing attention, research, and action to this problem!
Remember this is the same company that said "Gamers should be comfortable with not owning their games" this alone says a lot about them.
The idea is to make it more expensive to discontinue access to a game than it would be to perpetually fund it or remove DRM blocks preventing people from playing it "after service"
Definitely don't want ot bring the mood down but it's also important to remember that the stop killing games movement is not necesarily meant to bring back the crew, but rather to stop publishers from pulling the plug on future games without any kind of way for people to have a way to play the game after support ends.
Definitely if you can sign any of the petitions and everything in the website 100% do so, but I wouldn't expect the crew to be brought back, at least not by ubisoft anyway.
We should just stop BUYING such "products" - "video games", then the problem will be solved: the developers' labor will be valued and players will benefit in this way. And businessmen (EA, Ubi, etc) will have to work not only with their heads, but also with their hearts.
So piracy is the only salvation. At least I'm tired of the dirt.
Ubisoft isn't new at this. Remember driver san francisco or steep?
I don't know about steep but Driver SF could be played offline
That point about devs was spot on. Imagine you work on something for few years that you are proud of and people actually enjoy and then someone comes in and destroys it in one moment. The sad thing is that The Crew apparently had an offline mode (not sure if it was completed) but since being onlne is a great DRM, Ubissoft didn't opted for including it and now they most likely wont spend a single $ to implement it to preserve the game.
Ubisoft "Worst game company" title snatching speedrun 100%
I didn’t like how the crew only had Cape Cod in Massachusetts, we gonna pretend Boston dosnt exist?
its sad they never improved the crew after 1. if u thought the original was bad, 2 and motorfest are even worse
Motorfest is obnoxious honestly
LPN05 du musst auch ein Video dazu machen! Lass das Spiel nicht einfach so sterben!
You said it all... what a sad day, losing this huge and beautiful map to stroll...
Our Motorstorm crew learned the hard way when the Apocalypse servers went down and we lost our crewlivery, cars and items. Some third party servers got up after that but whe also lost our love for the game. Developers should realize that people collect games. If I want to play Dirt2 to race against Ken Block (RIP) I still can.
"You will own nothing and be happy". Boy are we happy now.👍🏻
10:50 this example with phones, isn't it already the case in some extent ?
The Crew franchise lost all it's personality after the Crew 1. The map is cutback and never used in 2, all progression and mmo aspect went away. The story went from gritty to Forza Horizon wish edition. You don't even have a crew anymore. No more 5-10 just let's go race and partyyy woooo. I played the entire first game on wheel without using teleportation and discovered all the map, went coast to coast multiple times it was amazing.
The same happened to *Forza Horizon 3!* BUT! Forza Horizon is, unlike The Crew, still playable in *off-line mode!* 😃
10:50 You just described the iPhone. They literally have planned obsolescense (or however you spell it), as you described it
Modern phone manufacturers already do planned obsolescence, no? I mean 2-5 years update cycle is a slap in the face for ppl who actually use & take care of their phones for more than 5 years.
That being said, phone modding & customisations have been a thing since forever now and that's one way to preserve phones one way or another. I'm currently running android 13 on my customised xiaomi redmi note 7 that feels way lighter than it's stock rom.
The difference between NFS 2015 and The Crew is that EA is tolerant of the fan patches and stuff as long as the people who made them aren’t making money off of them.
I think there’s a pretty fair chance that community serves and patches for NFS2015 will be safe.
Difference with The Crew is Ubisoft I don’t trust one bit. Listen, if they be calling themselves the first AAAA studio then I’m calling BS (especially when the first ever AAAA sucks)
Typical Ubisoft. They just kill the game when it stops being profitable. it's the same situation as with Driver SF the Game was deleted form online stores Because license has expired
Eden, this should be in the main channel. I know you might consider this as more of a personal oppinion, but you know this is a big news.
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For these people, i think you can make an analogy with the Portal games.
Imagine if you bought Portal and Portal 2, and now you can only play Portal 2. It's crazy
Apple already "updates" older products to reduce their battery life and so on to try to force people to purchase a new product.
This game was part of my childhood and I just played it like a month ago out of nostalgia. Never realized they were shutting it down the servers and now it’s gone forever😢. Rip to all the friends I made and all the cars I had.
Gotta love live-service games. Once the developers pull the plug, you can't play them anymore. It totally sucks if you think about that when it comes to your favorite game.
The Crew 1 should also not be written off because of TC2 because, get this, if you bought something, and then someone comes along and takes it from you, and tells you to buy the sequel instead of letting you keep the one you already paid for, that's still just as messed up. Not only you lose acces to the first but they want you to spend money on the second? BS
Thanks for making a video about this Dustin. I hope this picks up traction, really care about this issue.
The only hope I can see out of this shutdown is 1 of 2 things.
1) they remake the game like need for speed has done for some of its older titles. If they really do remake this game it would be awesome to see the new graphics and HAVE A WAY TO PLAY OFFLINE (