I always thought Dave looked like the most stiff drummer I’ve ever seen. He looked like he was always struggling with the “feel”. But he always had great feel. He was a powerhouse drummer with impeccable timing.
I feel the same. He was my favorite Priest drummer. He had a feel and groove that Scott just doesn’t have. He got the job done well even though he does kind of look stiff and awkward.
@@russellcarter1872 Scott has a great feel, it's just not the same as Dave, the music is different too. Les Bink was amazing but, for the music Priest did in the 80s Dave was better, more simple in his approach. But with the 90s Priest,s music changed, and I can't imagine Dave will have been able to play Pain killer or metal meltdown. Les, Dave, and Scott, three different drummers, for three different kind of music.
As a drummer myself I learned years ago that you can hear actual "body movements" in the sound itself...he may look stiff, but that stiff body movement is what made it sound tight and raw. How you physically move behind a kit at any moment will dictate the sound you give.
If Dave Holland’s playing style looked wooden, it’s only because he is so good at his job he becomes an extension of his drumsticks. The man is an underrated legend.
@@re8746 He always started that he was innocent and he was even writing a book about the matter but he passed away. Further more he also intended to press charges as he wanted to prove his innocence. Was he guilty? Maybe.......was he innocent? Maybe too.......we shall never know but I do know for a fact that people do lie for money or fame.
There are a couple of articles out there currently that raise serious questions about whether he was completely innocent and that this entire scenario was a scheme to get at what money he had.
@@re8746 kid wasn't in wheelchair and it is believed that the kid made the story up. Also I believe the accusation was attempted abuse. The kid has previously accused some other guy as well of abuse but that guy was acquitted. Look it up mate, not just a cut and dry case with the Dave incident.
Dave was the right drummer at the right time for Judas Priest. His no nonsense timekeeping style was exactly what they needed for the material they wrote during his era. "Turbo" and "Ram It Down" were likely largely drum machines by that point but Dave nailed those songs live. He was a key and often overlooked element of their success in their heyday. Every live version of 'Desert Plains" I have ever heard with Dave was simply brutal.
Sorta like a heavy-metal version of Charlie Watts in how he looks stiff or off yet hits his marks and gives the music what it needs without going overboard.
My intro to JP was unleashed and so I'm a huge Binks fan. I went through a phase where I didn't appreciate Dave. But in not recent times I've come to appreciate his work with Priest! In my opinion ever 80's Priest album was pure gold, even the outliers, POE, Turbo, and Ram it Down.
Y tú sabes que los Jueces son humanos y como tales ,también se equivocan en las sentencias . Aquí en España mientras vivió en el anonimato todas las personas que lo conocieron incluso las enfermeras y médicos dijeron de él que era muy educado, gentil, amable y cercano con toda persona que se le acercó. No creo que ya sepamos la verdad de lo que sucedió con aquel chico ,pero han salido no hace mucho algunas noticias de que la denuncia fue forzada por terceras personas y que todo fue falso ,de todas formas yo sigo diciendo como aficionado que soy al instrumento de batería, que este Señor era y seguirá siendo para mí el MEJOR batería que tuvo la banda Judas Priest y Trapeze.Y si es inocente como él afirmó hasta su último día de vida ,espero y deseo que se le haga justicia y se limpie del todo su nombre y su trayectoria como músico ESPECTACULAR.
He really suited that era of JP for sure. Had a great groove, and the first time I saw Scott Travis with JP, I noticed that "Grinder" didn't have quite the same swing/feel as when Dave played it. Scott is a fantastic drummer obviously, but on the slower/mid paced stuff I do prefer Dave Holland's style. Also, noted that Richie recently stated that JP don't play Solar Angels live anymore because it just doesn't "feel right" - used to be their opening song on the POE tour and had a brilliant slow groove from Dave! Just different styles I guess, I doubt that Dave would have handled Painkiller etc!
Just look at the rest of the band...they never had neither before or after Dave that much fun on stage. Why? Because Dave brought this amazing groove, timing, power and taste.
Also they finally had some big money rolling in could be a factor. Ken downing literally ycouldn't afford a new pair of socks or a guitar until recently. Also it wasn't that Dave Holland was the greatest thing in the world but les Binks walked on them because he was disgruntled about money matters. Not saying that Mr Holland didn't do a terrific job .I can barely watch the recent touring lineup it's painful. I choose to remember these ,5 blokes from England that seemed to have unlimited talent.and were badass live.
I've been drumming my whole life and Dave was a big influence on me. The one thing that always stood out to me was the sound of his snare. That snare would take your head off.
@@zandig666 I do think it looks strange, without a doubt he's a very good drummer. For me, I just think it looks much better if you sit the exact opposite of how Dave is, it looks cooler.
@@re8746 Jerry Lee Lewis fucked his 13 year old cousin. Steven Tyler had a sexual relationship with his minor girlfriend in the 1970's. Don Henley had a minor runaway OD and die in his hotel room from his drugs. Gary Glitter went to prison for being a pervert. What exactly is your point?
@kicky_sam_49 oh definitely.. no one can touch Phil’s playing. Everyone seems to overlook the fact that he was basically a hard hitting Motown styled drummer. Both his replacements didn’t have that swing.
Dave Holland gets unfairly shit upon by a lot of metal fans but he did exactly what Priest wanted him to do and he did it very well! I think he was a great drummer.
He has my respect…. My favorite drumming of all their releases is by far Simon Phillips on Sin After Sin!!! Impeccable drumming!! Not sure if he preformed live with them.
Im with u there.... Those times... Let us prey, dissident aggressivt, sinner.... A powerhouse and technical... I thought Les suited perfect after him... But of course Dave had his straight forward style with hard hitting that fitted well in with British Steel era and Screaming for vengeance and mighty defenders of the faith.. never been into that Turbo shit commercial... Stay heavy 🤟🥁
@@MichaelWH Judas priest finally had a real drummer and the heavy stuff suddenly became heavier and more technical and extremely polished for a green band. STARBREAKER. ISLAND OF DOMINATION SINNER with Phillips we're great. Even Jeff BECK was jealous and eventually roped in Simon for his projects.
I always thought he had the steangest mechanics of metal drummers,he sat so high.. but it mustve been comfortable for him... he was consistent and solid!
He had such a great drum sound I'm sure the engineers had a lot to do with it but British steel point of entry it just had that killer solid just rock drum sound. Kind of reminded me of AC/DC the approach of it all. I thought he was standing up at first .
He is a Bizarre case. He looks really stiff and awkward, like a teenager who's been playing for 6 months without any lessons. Yet...he had superb timing and feel, and was perfect for that era of Priest
That's also because metal was moving into another direction. Listen to fight, and then Halford in the early 2000's. I love 80's metal (I include hair bands in 80's metal) but it was losing it's edge in 91-92.
Ever see Charlie Watts play? It’s cool when they look like they’re swingin’, but it’s what it sounds like that’s most important. Dave played the kind of drums that fill bank accounts.
I've never seen anybody beat on the drums so hard! The dude was a monster. People say he looks stiff I say It's because his whole body is a drumstick!.
Man, Dave Holland could swing! had great feel and you could bang that head and air drum to his grooves all night.Les binks was a bad as , and Scott travis is amazing heavy metal octapus, but Holland was so good during his time with JP.
Priest best era was, without shadow of a doubt with Dave Holland. HE GAVE priest there recognisable sound. S.T, to me, sounds robotic and doesn't play the songs how they were done. Priest chasing new blood for fans with going with what was 'in' at the time. Should have done what maiden did and stick to their recognisable tone.
@@SamPlaysBass49 Holland's rock solid wickedly grooving drumming was a big part of why Priest became the biggest metal band in the world in the early 80's.
Great drummer unfortunately was stained by accusations many stars r attacked by people looking for big settlements who knows the guy drummed for one of the world's premier metal acts !!!!
@@josearalat He always mantained his innocence........and we all know that there are people out there ready to ruin a person's life just for the money.
@@josearalat For a few years after I read about that, Injust assumed it was true - BUT more info came out about that case , and (I’m paraphrasing) he would not have been found guilty had the prosecution allowed certain evidence in court. Not sure about the details , but it sounded like he got wrongfully accused and convicted. I know that the British court system is every bit as corrupt as the American system - hell, you can be “investigated” for voicing your opinions on a number of issues , online - THAT is a perfect example of a corrupt system
@@hazor777 Being a Lawyer myself I know the system is well flawed. I don't really know the details of the case other than that the "victim" was a mentally challenge man or boy. And I have now idea how the British Penal System works. My original point was just to clarify that it wasn't just accusations but the man got convicted too, regardless of the merits of the case. By the way, I always thought weird that the man was in Priest for many years and the band never spoke of him at all.
I dont like Scott Travis .. sorry The Dave holland sound its very Judas Priest sound .. And i really love les binks .. just listen to him playing in the videos playing live with kk Priest .. with Ripper and kk downing RIP Dave holland Great drummer indeed
Dave was a good drummer. But after he left they got Scott and the drumming went to another level. I don't think Dave could've handle that kind of drumming. Not saying he's bad. Just that they were both had a different style from each other. Too bad his legacy went to shit with his problems off stage. Hate to see that.
Dude is STIFF, and such an unergonomic kit setup. His snare is WAY too low. Not really using the leverage of the sticks either. Amazing he could play that well with that technique.
He played the exact same beat played at different tempos on every song he ever recorded. The most monotone simplistic slapstick timekeeper of all time.
That was great. He's unreal to watch. So stiff. Check out Nick Menza playing Megadeth songs. He looked like he was holding his breath in stages. When he died on stage I thought it was because he was holding his breath. Pushing it toot long.
some of those old kits, look like toys now. he is a bit ungainly looking, but i think thats cause of that small kit he looks like an adult playing a kids kit. An amazing drummer
Never impressed me. Judas Priest was a MUCH better band with Les Binks!!! Holland was a "stiffy" He played with his arms, NOT his wrists/hands. He kept a beat, that was about it. Not to mention his "extra curricular activities" with boys.
When he's drumming , I like the part where he fiddles with a 17 year old boy with learning difficulties. Very adept with his fingers around the hard stick.
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I always thought Dave looked like the most stiff drummer I’ve ever seen. He looked like he was always struggling with the “feel”. But he always had great feel. He was a powerhouse drummer with impeccable timing.
He looked like he was frightened of the sticks bouncing off the drums and hitting him in the face.
I feel the same. He was my favorite Priest drummer. He had a feel and groove that Scott just doesn’t have. He got the job done well even though he does kind of look stiff and awkward.
Bonham's favorite drummer.
@@russellcarter1872 Scott has a great feel, it's just not the same as Dave, the music is different too. Les Bink was amazing but, for the music Priest did in the 80s Dave was better, more simple in his approach. But with the 90s Priest,s music changed, and I can't imagine Dave will have been able to play Pain killer or metal meltdown. Les, Dave, and Scott, three different drummers, for three different kind of music.
He sits very high up on his kit. It just looks a bit awkward. It worked for him though. It would do my back in to sit like that.
Moral of this is listen with your ears, not your eyes. Dave was a beast of a drummer.
As a drummer myself I learned years ago that you can hear actual "body movements" in the sound itself...he may look stiff, but that stiff body movement is what made it sound tight and raw. How you physically move behind a kit at any moment will dictate the sound you give.
Agree. Seen him with Priest back in the 80's a few times. The guy gave 110% every show.
If Dave Holland’s playing style looked wooden, it’s only because he is so good at his job he becomes an extension of his drumsticks. The man is an underrated legend.
lol!!!
This guy was so badass as their drummer. He had such a GREAT sound with them. Totally underrated!!
He was an Excellent time keeper. No flash. Just kept them moving along. It was his tenure that was recognized in the Hall of Fame!
100% fact! And I could not agree with you more!🤘
I loved all of the Priest drummers but Dave's my favorite. He had power, feel, tempo and always played the perfect parts for the songs.
Les Binks. Priest was never tighter.
Plus he treated the kids sooooo well.
@@toddmorrissey8372 just like Steven Tyler and Don Henley.
@@marksilvernail4420
Nah, dude - Binks was great, but Dave was impeccably tight.
So did Simon Phillips
Dave Was A Major part of Priests Power . Rock Solid Drummer.
Holland’s drum sounds were the most recognizable out of them all. By far my favorite drummer in Priest.
I love Dave too - and all of Priest's drummers. But Scott Travis' drums are by far the most recognizable.
Fantastic drummer! Always tight as hell... and he had the best snare (and whole kit) sound of any priest drummer.
RIP Dave!
Absolutely great drummer. One of the best. Have all the albums he plays on.
You know Dave went to Jail for abusing a 17 year old kid in a wheelchair and with learning disabilities back in 2004. Not cool.
I know. But i talk about the music now and NOTHING else.
@@re8746 He always started that he was innocent and he was even writing a book about the matter but he passed away. Further more he also intended to press charges as he wanted to prove his innocence.
Was he guilty? Maybe.......was he innocent? Maybe too.......we shall never know but I do know for a fact that people do lie for money or fame.
There are a couple of articles out there currently that raise serious questions about whether he was completely innocent and that this entire scenario was a scheme to get at what money he had.
@@re8746 kid wasn't in wheelchair and it is believed that the kid made the story up. Also I believe the accusation was attempted abuse. The kid has previously accused some other guy as well of abuse but that guy was acquitted. Look it up mate, not just a cut and dry case with the Dave incident.
His playing on the "Screaming For Vengeance" track is quite impressive. Crazy fills and odd timing. Throws you off a bit but then he brings it back.
I think he would have turned 75 years this spring, really a great drummer.! R.I.P Dave.
Dave was the right drummer at the right time for Judas Priest. His no nonsense timekeeping style was exactly what they needed for the material they wrote during his era. "Turbo" and "Ram It Down" were likely largely drum machines by that point but Dave nailed those songs live. He was a key and often overlooked element of their success in their heyday. Every live version of 'Desert Plains" I have ever heard with Dave was simply brutal.
Keeping with such consistensy and body wothout temptations or fault the " Are you highhh " moment in Desert Pmains is hard
Man, thanks for putting together all those clips of Dave drumming. He is such a trip to watch, but always so briefly shown in videos. Very Cool
Sorta like a heavy-metal version of Charlie Watts in how he looks stiff or off yet hits his marks and gives the music what it needs without going overboard.
That's actually what he was referred to as in a 1986 Modern Drummer interview "The Charlie Watts Of heavy metal". He appreciated the comparison.
I love his playing so much, such perfect feel and sound
Seen Dave live a few times,.not to even mention the album’s,..also being a drummer I was always amazed how technically tight he was.R.I.P..🤟🏻X
Dave deserves more credit. R.I.P
My intro to JP was unleashed and so I'm a huge Binks fan. I went through a phase where I didn't appreciate Dave. But in not recent times I've come to appreciate his work with Priest! In my opinion ever 80's Priest album was pure gold, even the outliers, POE, Turbo, and Ram it Down.
Mr.Dave Holland THE BEST drums Judas Priest, ONLY 1,PERFECT,FANTASTIC. R.I.P LOVE YOU FOREVER ❤️
You know Dave went to Jail for abusing a 17 year old kid in a wheelchair and with learning disabilities back in 2004. Not cool.
Y tú sabes que los Jueces son humanos y como tales ,también se equivocan en las sentencias .
Aquí en España mientras vivió en el anonimato todas las personas que lo conocieron incluso las enfermeras y médicos dijeron de él que era muy educado, gentil, amable y cercano con toda persona que se le acercó. No creo que ya sepamos la verdad de lo que sucedió con aquel chico ,pero han salido no hace mucho algunas noticias de que la denuncia fue forzada por terceras personas y que todo fue falso ,de todas formas yo sigo diciendo como aficionado que soy al instrumento de batería, que este Señor era y seguirá siendo para mí el MEJOR batería que tuvo la banda Judas Priest y Trapeze.Y si es inocente como él afirmó hasta su último día de vida ,espero y deseo que se le haga justicia y se limpie del todo su nombre y su trayectoria como músico ESPECTACULAR.
@@manuelquesadalopez967 Un comentario perfecto lo tuyo....y tienes toda la razón.
He really suited that era of JP for sure. Had a great groove, and the first time I saw Scott Travis with JP, I noticed that "Grinder" didn't have quite the same swing/feel as when Dave played it. Scott is a fantastic drummer obviously, but on the slower/mid paced stuff I do prefer Dave Holland's style. Also, noted that Richie recently stated that JP don't play Solar Angels live anymore because it just doesn't "feel right" - used to be their opening song on the POE tour and had a brilliant slow groove from Dave! Just different styles I guess, I doubt that Dave would have handled Painkiller etc!
Just look at the rest of the band...they never had neither before or after Dave that much fun on stage. Why? Because Dave brought this amazing groove, timing, power and taste.
Also they finally had some big money rolling in could be a factor. Ken downing literally ycouldn't afford a new pair of socks or a guitar until recently. Also it wasn't that Dave Holland was the greatest thing in the world but les Binks walked on them because he was disgruntled about money matters. Not saying that Mr Holland didn't do a terrific job .I can barely watch the recent touring lineup it's painful. I choose to remember these ,5 blokes from England that seemed to have unlimited talent.and were badass live.
Personally I always preferred Les, but Dave was a good, underrated technical drummer.
I've been drumming my whole life and Dave was a big influence on me. The one thing that always stood out to me was the sound of his snare. That snare would take your head off.
Power! British Steel has my all-time favourite drumsound! 👌
Yes, i like that Sound a lot, too. And it Was even before he had his Tama endorsement.
Sat up a little high while playing, you don't see that too often. His timing was always perfect no matter where he sat.
Jazz guys sit high up. Go figure.
Ya I love watching him at the us festival
I saw a comment that said hey who put the leather vest on the accountant lol
@@zandig666 I mean, that's a pretty good question. Haha
@@zandig666 I do think it looks strange, without a doubt he's a very good drummer. For me, I just think it looks much better if you sit the exact opposite of how Dave is, it looks cooler.
@@irocitZ seeing not sewing lol
Awesome drummer
I love that classic sounding kit also found on the early Trapeze albums.
You are the music!
@@TheSteveSteele we're just the band
My favorite drummer! Nice job.
You know Dave went to Jail for abusing a 17 year old kid in a wheelchair and with learning disabilities back in 2004. Not cool.
@@re8746 Jerry Lee Lewis fucked his 13 year old cousin. Steven Tyler had a sexual relationship with his minor girlfriend in the 1970's. Don Henley had a minor runaway OD and die in his hotel room from his drugs. Gary Glitter went to prison for being a pervert. What exactly is your point?
@@re8746
Holland denied that claim, and there are quite a few reasons to speculate that he was innocent of the charges.
@@re8746 trust me that argument falls on deaf ears with priest fans. Just like his average drumming.
@@SamPlaysBass49 Oh its sick. I am a Priest fan but I know a sicko when I see it. Just look at the report and evidence against Dave.
Loved his powerhouse swing.
The Phil Rudd Of heavy metal
Bingo. Priest toured with AC/DC before they picked up Dave.
They both pick up their sticks one at a time, then made gold, er PLATINUM records
Ha! I was going to write that! You nailed it.
@kicky_sam_49 Priest’s biggest albums were with Holland. Says a lot
@kicky_sam_49 oh definitely.. no one can touch Phil’s playing. Everyone seems to overlook the fact that he was basically a hard hitting Motown styled drummer. Both his replacements didn’t have that swing.
@@SamPlaysBass49 British Steel played by Travis is certainly NOT elevated. Holland played those songs better.
Dave Holland gets unfairly shit upon by a lot of metal fans but he did exactly what Priest wanted him to do and he did it very well! I think he was a great drummer.
Dave was a machine!! 🤘
a legend.
He was the perfect drummer for the band in that era. Cant tell me you dont play a lil air drums with him when you hear those classic songs.
Played on a shitload of iconic tracks. Miss his drumming on that era of J.P.
A proper Rock drummer without the gymnastics. Solid.
Great talent on the drums period!! Love PRIEST!!
He has my respect…. My favorite drumming of all their releases is by far Simon Phillips on Sin After Sin!!! Impeccable drumming!! Not sure if he preformed live with them.
Your a man of good taste. Yes SIN After SIN.
Im with u there.... Those times... Let us prey, dissident aggressivt, sinner.... A powerhouse and technical... I thought Les suited perfect after him... But of course Dave had his straight forward style with hard hitting that fitted well in with British Steel era and Screaming for vengeance and mighty defenders of the faith.. never been into that Turbo shit commercial... Stay heavy 🤟🥁
Think he was just a session man.
@@MichaelWH Judas priest finally had a real drummer and the heavy stuff suddenly became heavier and more technical and extremely polished for a green band. STARBREAKER. ISLAND OF DOMINATION SINNER with Phillips we're great. Even Jeff BECK was jealous and eventually roped in Simon for his projects.
Dave ruled!
Riding on the Wind intro is great!
And his fills in Rapid Fire, Bloodstone and Steeler.
Excellent drummer, tight!
He played on my favorite Priest album British Steel 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I always thought he had the steangest mechanics of metal drummers,he sat so high.. but it mustve been comfortable for him... he was consistent and solid!
I've always tried to think of a way to describe him. You just nailed it
It's looks strange sitting up so high, I would feel nerdy sitting that high up. But there's no denying he was very good.
Yessir sat funny with tight deliberate strokes never cared to hamm it up
Funny style for being in the pace car for heavy metal !!!🤟🤟
Most trad jazz drummers sit high, looks better imo.
@@BenDowdy and they were probably high to.
The best drummer for sure.
His riser is insane !!
He was their best drummer.
greatest drummer ever, drum solo you can't hear but can see. so fast the sound can't keep up
He had such a great drum sound I'm sure the engineers had a lot to do with it but British steel point of entry it just had that killer solid just rock drum sound. Kind of reminded me of AC/DC the approach of it all. I thought he was standing up at first .
He was the best sounding Priest drummer they ever had imo.
His drum sound on British Steel and Screaming For Vengeance was the best ever.
Plays drums like he's mad at 'em
Nah
He is a Bizarre case. He looks really stiff and awkward, like a teenager who's been playing for 6 months without any lessons.
Yet...he had superb timing and feel, and was perfect for that era of Priest
My favorite Preist drummer.
Contributed a big part to the metal Legend of Judas priest best era
With all due respect Scott Travis took JP to another level on the Painkiller album..
That's also because metal was moving into another direction. Listen to fight, and then Halford in the early 2000's.
I love 80's metal (I include hair bands in 80's metal) but it was losing it's edge in 91-92.
I thought Dave was good in Trapeze, but I always preferred Les Binks or Simon Phillips for Priest.
Ever see Charlie Watts play? It’s cool when they look like they’re swingin’, but it’s what it sounds like that’s most important.
Dave played the kind of drums that fill bank accounts.
I've never seen anybody beat on the drums so hard! The dude was a monster. People say he looks stiff I say It's because his whole body is a drumstick!.
Obviously you must not have been fortunate enough to see John Bonham.
The size of those sticks!
Dave Holland, the Charlie Watts of Heavy Metal drummers.
Such an amazing drummer never got the credit he deserved Priest with Holland is the only real Priest.
Holland is a kick arse metal swing drummer rather than hard hitter that's why it works
He LOOKED playing like a beginner. But he sounded like a pro!
Somebody has a list of Dave's Drum kit??
Thanks in advance
ludwig then premier then tama if i remember correctly.
He didn't use a drum stool, he sat on a baseball bat
No sound, can hear Dave playing the drums???
Dave was PERFECT for Trapeze.
Les Binks blows this guy out of the water!! FACT
Les Binks, Judas Priest was never tighter.
on the earlier stuff,absolutely..not on the best stuff though
So true. Wish Les stayed in the band!!
Les was great, but Dave was tighter and played the absolute perfect beats and fills for every song.
@@marksilvernail4420
Les had chops, but Dave was tighter - the first three albums he played on were perfect evidence of that.
part time ups driver !!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he always reminded me of that cause he had that look and face awsome
Able to see Trapeze five times. Dave was the right drummer for Trapeze.
Doesn't matter how you get there, it's what you do once your there.
Man, Dave Holland could swing! had great feel and you could bang that head and air drum to his grooves all night.Les binks was a bad as , and Scott travis is amazing heavy metal octapus, but Holland was so good during his time with JP.
Great drummer in my humble opinion
No doubt an excellent drummer however I always preferred Les Binks.
He was a very tight drummer
Priest best era was, without shadow of a doubt with Dave Holland. HE GAVE priest there recognisable sound. S.T, to me, sounds robotic and doesn't play the songs how they were done. Priest chasing new blood for fans with going with what was 'in' at the time. Should have done what maiden did and stick to their recognisable tone.
Good drummer,but I prefer Scot Travis and Les Binks.
Binks is great - Travis has zero groove or feel.
Thankfully, some Priest fans such as yourself have the ability to listen with their ears rather than their eyes. Holland was "just okay"
@@SamPlaysBass49
Holland's rock solid wickedly grooving drumming was a big part of why Priest became the biggest metal band in the world in the early 80's.
Great drummer unfortunately was stained by accusations many stars r attacked by people looking for big settlements who knows the guy drummed for one of the world's premier metal acts !!!!
Well it was more than just accusations. He got convicted and did time in prison.
@@josearalat He always mantained his innocence........and we all know that there are people out there ready to ruin a person's life just for the money.
@@lagrasta666 Agree on that.
@@josearalat For a few years after I read about that, Injust assumed it was true - BUT more info came out about that case , and (I’m paraphrasing) he would not have been found guilty had the prosecution allowed certain evidence in court. Not sure about the details , but it sounded like he got wrongfully accused and convicted. I know that the British court system is every bit as corrupt as the American system - hell, you can be “investigated” for voicing your opinions on a number of issues , online - THAT is a perfect example of a corrupt system
@@hazor777 Being a Lawyer myself I know the system is well flawed. I don't really know the details of the case other than that the "victim" was a mentally challenge man or boy. And I have now idea how the British Penal System works. My original point was just to clarify that it wasn't just accusations but the man got convicted too, regardless of the merits of the case. By the way, I always thought weird that the man was in Priest for many years and the band never spoke of him at all.
All nice paiste wow
I dont like Scott Travis .. sorry
The Dave holland sound its very Judas Priest sound ..
And i really love les binks .. just listen to him playing in the videos playing live with kk Priest .. with Ripper and kk downing
RIP Dave holland
Great drummer indeed
Yeah, Les and Dave are my faves too.
I always wondered if Holland was just a payed employee or a full member.
No comparison. Give me Les Binks anyday
Nah.
Yup. Binks proved himself more on 2 albums than Dave did on 6. Stiff as a board.
@@SamPlaysBass49
Nope. Scott Travis is by far the stiffest drummer Priest have ever had. Dave Holland was a bad-ass groove machine.
Dave was a good drummer. But after he left they got Scott and the drumming went to another level. I don't think Dave could've handle that kind of drumming. Not saying he's bad. Just that they were both had a different style from each other. Too bad his legacy went to shit with his problems off stage. Hate to see that.
Scott doesn't play with any heart at all...he slops through the songs like he's dis interested.
Dude is STIFF, and such an unergonomic kit setup. His snare is WAY too low. Not really using the leverage of the sticks either. Amazing he could play that well with that technique.
Stiff yet solid.
And in no way is that a reference to male genitalia.
He played the exact same beat played at different tempos on every song he ever recorded. The most monotone simplistic slapstick timekeeper of all time.
He was awesome - tight af and really cool and powerful fills.
But let's be honest, what else did JP's 1980s songs require?
This is simply untrue
@@DannyGadish
Yeah, that Tim Rose dude is clearly not a drummer, and if he is, he's not a very good or knowledgeable one.
R.I.P 16 / 1/ 2018 an Fonsagrada ( fuente sagrada) Lugo - ESPAÑA
No disrespect to Scott Travis but Dave Holland does a much better job with old priest songs
😎👍💗🇨🇭🔥🎼🔊)) PAISTE!!!
🤔Noone mentioned Simon Phillips...
His playing w/Priest was outstanding as well.
That was great. He's unreal to watch. So stiff. Check out Nick Menza playing Megadeth songs. He looked like he was holding his breath in stages.
When he died on stage I thought it was because he was holding his breath. Pushing it toot long.
some of those old kits, look like toys now. he is a bit ungainly looking, but i think thats cause of that small kit he looks like an adult playing a kids kit. An amazing drummer
Good times of Judas !
Never impressed me.
Judas Priest was a MUCH better band with Les Binks!!!
Holland was a "stiffy"
He played with his arms, NOT his wrists/hands.
He kept a beat, that was about it.
Not to mention his "extra curricular activities" with boys.
Stiff is a good word for a guy that might have a kiddie diddler issue based on reports 🙃🙃
Trapeze for the win.
“Tight as a drum” lol
El Mejor Judas con ese batero👏
All arms no wrist, straight four on the floor….
He looks like me playing drums… I don’t play drums. But he kept great time for sure.
When he's drumming , I like the part where he fiddles with a 17 year old boy with learning difficulties. Very adept with his fingers around the hard stick.
I wondered why he had stiff wrists
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Must be you you’re talking about