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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • Welcome to No Kids Allowed! in todays episode we are joined by Riyadh, winner of Celebrity Master Chief and Author of Yay! You're Gay! Now What? A Gay Boy's Guide to Life to discuss the topic of what would you do if your child came out to you as LGBTQIA+ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and/or Questioning, Intersex, and Asexual and/or Ally)
    Myself and Anna are both straight and have lived a mostly straight lifestyle for most of our lives so how would we manage and ensure our child would have the support they need.
    As always i love reading your comments on our opinions so please leave them below, and share this video as much as you can so other parents who might be in this situation can hear our conversation.
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    #nokidsallowed #podcast

Комментарии • 980

  • @marooqi
    @marooqi 2 года назад +302

    Jonathon wants Eduardo to be gay so he can be accepted by the lgbtplus community, but Ed is too young to be gay, quit labeling him, pressuring him as if he won't be loved or will let you down if he wasn't gay. He just wants to be loved by his parents and Emilia is obviously the favored child.Poor Eduardo is not gay. you cant decide for him.

    • @Mistyeyez2024
      @Mistyeyez2024 Год назад +61

      Yeah, imagine he grows up and realized his dad exploited him as a kid.

    • @KFAARON
      @KFAARON Год назад +13

      @@RetroVRR exactly

    • @KFAARON
      @KFAARON Год назад +5

      @@RetroVRR ye lol

    • @Cahpybara.Ink.
      @Cahpybara.Ink. Год назад +2

      I knew I was a lesbian since I was little, I sent love letters to my friends when I was 5, just like you knew you were straight, nobody forces you to be gay, if you were born that way, only prejudiced straight people who keep forcing lgbt people to be just like you, ridiculous.

    • @morenaamaya9344
      @morenaamaya9344 Год назад +21

      @@RetroVRR if you see in the older videos he IS a boy

  • @charmingandwitty
    @charmingandwitty 3 года назад +5

    Just because a male child chooses to dress in girl clothes and play with girl toys for example does not automatically mean the child is gay . A younger boy child often takes after the big sister. My brother was this way and he is a grown man with no gay behavior, married with children. Let children be who they are, they simply are not exposed to the harness of the world to know what is acceptable or not acceptable. If they grow out of it great, if they don't that is great to. One automatically "assumes" a child is gay by the way they act and play .... Don't push a child into one category or another ... Simply let the child grow and be who they feel comfortable being.

  • @TerrorLeon1
    @TerrorLeon1 Год назад +12

    OUR CHILD IS TRANS, WHAT NOW.... RESTRAINING ORDER!!!

  • @RiyadhK
    @RiyadhK 3 года назад +630

    Thank you for having me on you two! Such an important chat to have. Hope people get something from it x

    • @SB-dk1ty
      @SB-dk1ty 3 года назад +7

      Omg this was such an informative interview, thank you ❤️

    • @aimeecamp7550
      @aimeecamp7550 3 года назад +5

      You are amazing! Thank you for making this so accessible and informative.

    • @stephaniemomof9746
      @stephaniemomof9746 3 года назад +2

      Your so wonderful! Thank you for such great info ❤

    • @emmyderkx4606
      @emmyderkx4606 3 года назад +1

      I loved the convo! Don't have any other words for it. It just makes me feel, like, warm inside. Looking forward to the next generation and their acceptance of the many different identities. Hope I'm lucky enough to have kids of my own someday to experience this with. The way they develop to become who they are.

    • @Norah1413
      @Norah1413 3 года назад

      Are you named after Riyadh city? That would be very special 🥺

  • @Jenzzyuk
    @Jenzzyuk 3 года назад +138

    I don't think People should ever Assume that someone's Gay just because of the way they Dress, I mean just because Jonathan Likes to wear Leggings and Short t-shirts doesn't mean he's Gay

    • @zairabandy8695
      @zairabandy8695 3 года назад +1

      well we are talking about sexuality so no one should ever ask anyone about that. that is private. but is just something people ask because they don't know the difference between sexuality and gender identity.

    • @Maraina.tuxoro335
      @Maraina.tuxoro335 3 года назад +13

      Haven’t you seen the headlines it’s all over the internet on google there was a video leaked of them forcing Eduardo to wear dresses!!! They give him chocolates if he does it... that’s why his teeth are so broken

    • @surlespasdondine
      @surlespasdondine 3 года назад

      @@Maraina.tuxoro335 hey troll

    • @zainabyahya359
      @zainabyahya359 3 месяца назад

      Growing up with sisters u want to be like them untill ur matured u start actually being who u r so
      THIS IS WRONG AND STOP THE PROMOTION OF LGBTQ
      EVERONE IS IN THEIR RIGHT GENDER THE DAY THEY WERE BORN
      IF U FEEL LIKE A GIRL
      AND A WHITE GUY SAYS I FEEL BLACK IM BLACK
      AND A HUMAN SAYS I FEEL LIKE A FISH KM A FISH

  • @JustJosh
    @JustJosh 3 года назад +521

    If you've been feeling a bit down lately and you're reading this comment.. I hope something amazing happens within your life very soon, stay strong, everything always works out in the end and have a great rest of the day/night!

    • @JustJosh
      @JustJosh 3 года назад

      Moon Child thank you!❤️

    • @katielottie9445
      @katielottie9445 3 года назад

      Thank you x

    • @lizzie0407
      @lizzie0407 3 года назад

      Thank you!! ❤️

    • @cheeriokeeper
      @cheeriokeeper 3 года назад

      I needed that. I sure hope life gets better

    • @samanthabrandt2255
      @samanthabrandt2255 3 года назад

      I needed to see this! Im hoping this baby im having will be my rainbow baby! Praying for a healthy strong heart for this baby 👶 ❤

  • @ASentimentalJourney_
    @ASentimentalJourney_ 3 года назад +471

    Anna's honesty in this was such a breath of fresh air! As someone who operates on a very similar sort of structured and black & white type of mindset I completely related to how she was expressing herself. This is why I love you guys so much, it felt like a healthy and completely realistic conversation. Much love

    • @katiesmith3242
      @katiesmith3242 3 года назад +3

      Yeah I agree I’m similar too

    • @peggycrowley9534
      @peggycrowley9534 3 года назад +1

      Anna is a mean girl who is a cold distant mother. Any pretense of honesty is for views.

    • @georgejubilee8880
      @georgejubilee8880 3 года назад +7

      Really? A breath of fresh air? Eduardo cannot consent. Why are they using their son to entertain others? I would rather hear Eduardo when he's 18 speak about this. Not his parents when he's barely in grammar school speak to someone he might one day not even like. Or he might not want to speak about it at all because he just wants to live in the moment. This is exploitative!

    • @mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072
      @mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 5 месяцев назад

      What are you talking about?

  • @mandyjsmith
    @mandyjsmith 3 года назад +82

    It frustrates me that people feel they have to announce their sexuality, not because I'm homophobic but because its no one else's business. As long as you feel happy in your own skin that's all that matters. To think people have to hide who they love is just unimaginable. Life's too short to worry about who's sleeping with who. Healthy and happy is all I care about! X

    • @jadeyoung4544
      @jadeyoung4544 3 года назад +6

      Me too. I don't wanna see any more coming out videos. People wouldn't have to come out if they had parents like Jon and Anna who just accept them and talk about every type of relationship rather than tell Emilia she'll have a boyfriend and Eduardo will have a girlfriend. Just say partner.

    • @Toaster.toast.22
      @Toaster.toast.22 4 месяца назад +1

      WTF you just said who’s sleeping with who like what the fuck

    • @Style4lyfe
      @Style4lyfe 4 месяца назад

      69 likes lol

    • @XxAndrewXx10
      @XxAndrewXx10 3 месяца назад

      Yeah but,the dad shouldn't make the kids decision,the kid should,dumbass.

    • @sanzharzaitenov5268
      @sanzharzaitenov5268 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@Toaster.toast.22he chooses language of facts xd. Being gay is not acting and dressing like an opposite sex

  • @Lizziel23
    @Lizziel23 3 года назад +314

    I love how honest Anna was here, her opinions are not unusual and it was so helpful to hear what Riyadh’s opinions are on them and how he recommended to help with those feelings. - so insightful and I feel like I learned a lot here!

  • @emilyk5510
    @emilyk5510 3 года назад +28

    This is such an interesting discussion! However to me it feels pretty selfish that straight family or friends could think that they are owed a coming out moment when it’s something so deeply personal and potentially traumatic. If an lgbt person chooses to share that part of themselves with you explicitly, then that is a privilege for you that they feel comfortable enough with you to share. If they choose to just live their lives authentically without an explicit coming out moment then that is absolutely their right as well, and I hope that in the future more people will feel secure enough in their environments to do that!

  • @scrumps101
    @scrumps101 3 года назад +141

    “I’m just in love with me fella”.... ❤️ Us American’s don’t sound so smooth.

  • @megdent8695
    @megdent8695 3 года назад +24

    I know its meant well but its so frustrating when people say ‘I deserved to know because I am X relation to you’. Thats not true, you don’t need to, it doesn’t change anything. Its only that persons thing. It would be ideal to never have to come out because people don’t assume you are straight

    • @megdent8695
      @megdent8695 3 года назад +1

      Also surely its only uncomfortable to not know if you were gonna say something homophobic if you didn’t?

  • @harriette19
    @harriette19 3 года назад +118

    I get Anna’s point when talking about her sister, about wanting her to have a ‘coming out’ so that she could process that herself. However I also don’t think that it should have to be a ‘coming out’, you don’t have to come out as straight and announce who you love. Who you love is who you love. We’ve always been very open in our house that you never have to ‘come out’ because you are who you are and that is nothing to be hidden and kept secret. This is probably worded really badly but I hope it gets across what I mean

    • @rebecca13161993
      @rebecca13161993 3 года назад +2

      That is amazing, and I understand Anna too. She wanted to know who her sister Emma was with before the wedding.

    • @Swiss_Girl
      @Swiss_Girl 3 года назад

      erika?

    • @harriette19
      @harriette19 3 года назад

      @@Swiss_Girl no, her middle sister Emma

    • @Swiss_Girl
      @Swiss_Girl 3 года назад

      @@harriette19 oh thanks. i throught anna was the middle child

    • @siobhanmcshanehill895
      @siobhanmcshanehill895 3 года назад +1

      I never knew Emma was gay

  • @Rosie-bi5gz
    @Rosie-bi5gz 3 года назад +28

    I've been here a few years and honestly never even imagined that Jonathan seemed anything other than straight. maybe the heterosexual marriage helped a bit 🤣

  • @laurenpaige8037
    @laurenpaige8037 3 года назад +12

    To the point of wanting people to come out officially, I wanted to bring up something I learned once that really opened my eyes. When kids are growing up, they are automatically assumed to be straight. This is called "compulsory heterosexuality," and it basically enforces the need to come out: everyone is assumed straight until told otherwise. It can endorse the idea that heterosexuality is the norm and when you come out you deviate from that norm. This was something I had never really thought about before I learned about it. I started talking to my roommate about it who is a lot more knowledgable on the subject and I wondered, "should you just assume they could be anything?" and she said "well why do we need assumptions about who kids will like anyway?" This was very eye-opening for me. I think it relates a lot to the discussion of labels because it can feel uncomfortable to not have a label for someone. Now I see it as sort of a new path, maybe we should just let kids be kids until they show interest in someone (not having an official coming out, but rather just accepting it) or they declare it themselves (an official coming out, no matter where you are on the spectrum!). I think this would take a lot of pressure of kids and prevent them from feeling like they "aren't normal" and need to announce it to the world. Obviously this is very hard when you are so conditioned to think in a binary way, but I found it interesting and very eye-opening. Food for thought!

  • @ardenhamiton7297
    @ardenhamiton7297 3 года назад +3

    Everyone needs to listen to this conversation, Anna and Jonathon you guys absolutely knocked it out of the park on this conversation about coming out and labels. I am completely shocked at how well you guys were able to show the different sides of the story and are able to explain opposite sides. I've been watching you for 7 years, since I was 12 years old I've grown up watching you and I'm still as a 19 year old learning and opening my views. Thank you for putting yourselves online and exposing yourselves and allowing me to be part of your family

  • @hopebarnes177
    @hopebarnes177 3 года назад +300

    This is the best one yet. I came out when i told my mum all she said was “what’s her star sign” I was like erm do you not have any other questions? She was like no not really? I asked if she knew or had a feeling and she said no not atall just that she accepts me and as long as I’m happy

    • @yyahnapineda9243
      @yyahnapineda9243 3 года назад +9

      I love that! I am currently in the closet and absolutely terrified to tell me parents because I know that they won’t accept it.

    • @MoonLovr7
      @MoonLovr7 3 года назад +14

      Honestly if one of my kids is gay I never want them to “come out” to me. Just bring them home. It doesn’t matter what gender they love I just want them to be happy.

    • @fangirlofbands7146
      @fangirlofbands7146 3 года назад +2

      That’s lovely

    • @hopebarnes177
      @hopebarnes177 3 года назад +1

      @@MoonLovr7 i was away at the time but I know she would of been the same :)

    • @hopebarnes177
      @hopebarnes177 3 года назад +2

      @@yyahnapineda9243 it’s so hard to be in your position. Hopefully you can be your true self xx

  • @nandinos
    @nandinos 3 года назад +22

    Two things, Riyadh's accent reminds me of how much the SJ's have lost their Irish accent over the years 😭 And second, Riyadh's maturity far surpasses many of the parents I know, who are so narrow minded and repressive towards their children's interests, hobbies etc (beyond gender/sexuality). I wish more people had his point of view.

  • @Sselena3395
    @Sselena3395 3 года назад +9

    The best advice I've gotten about being a better ally is to keep learning. Educate yourself and don't be afraid to make mistakes. If you have the want to learn more about others and yourself in the process, you'll come out on top in the end. Love you all. xx

  • @carolfuller7228
    @carolfuller7228 3 года назад +34

    What a lovely Man Riyadh is, and this topic is so important to talk about. Well done all of you. Lots of love.

  • @dutchgram3799
    @dutchgram3799 3 года назад +79

    Riyadh is such a nice person. Very personable.
    I never heard of him until I watched this video.

  • @lindsaymccafferty1190
    @lindsaymccafferty1190 3 года назад +36

    I have been watching since Emilia was a baby. This is the most REAL and OPEN i have ever seen you both. More of this please.

  • @Taylsxx
    @Taylsxx 3 года назад +12

    As a straight female I feel a lot safer in gay bars. Everyone is so nice and look out for you! In other bars every creep is hanging odd of you and following you around. Gay bars everyone looks out for each other. Straight, gay, bi what ever.

  • @theforgottendinosaur
    @theforgottendinosaur 3 года назад +30

    I didn't come out to anyone..no one needs to be worried about who i perfer to sleep with lol..if you dont need to come out to me as straight,why do i need to come out to you as a lesbian? I am who I am

    • @christined-j9418
      @christined-j9418 3 года назад

      Yes! I’ve always wondered why something so personal is handled in this way. Just live.

  • @bethvideopal846
    @bethvideopal846 3 года назад +75

    I feel like this is such an important topic to talk about and a lot of people shy away from it, thank you for speaking out about it as I know a lot of people struggle with either coming out or someone coming out to them. Thank you for bringing attention to something that should be talked about and not shamed 🤍

  • @ttalgi2302
    @ttalgi2302 3 года назад +14

    But you don't even know if he's gay. Why are you putting his privacy on the internet :/

    • @heynow33
      @heynow33 3 года назад +4

      Jonathan worships money

  • @iseeu5
    @iseeu5 3 года назад +48

    So sad how the father is using his son and making him something his not.

    • @FLOPPMelon
      @FLOPPMelon 3 месяца назад

      ppl like you are annoying you don’t know that for sure🙄

    • @Bulldogsprodz
      @Bulldogsprodz 2 месяца назад +3

      Fr

  • @camopug
    @camopug 3 года назад +21

    I will never forget watching the story of how Riyadh came out with his mom and dad. I'm not sure I've seen another video more touching. I sat there sobbing. It was that good. What a great guest!! He's such a natural at it. Love, a very very proud ally!!!

    • @emafergie
      @emafergie 3 года назад

      Completely agree still remember it

    • @niamhwilliams1041
      @niamhwilliams1041 3 года назад

      Omg yesss you’ve just sparked the memory!! I sobbed seeing the love especially from his dad🧡

  • @carriekennedy5903
    @carriekennedy5903 3 года назад +51

    My son called my coming back from his dads house after visiting him and told me he had something crazy to tell me. I figured it was good dad gossip. When he started the conversation with “I’m gay”, I blurted out “so? What’s the gossip then? He later told me I had the perfect reaction. He married his husband this June.

  • @abbyb5751
    @abbyb5751 3 года назад +23

    I’m not even thru the whole video and I’m just IN LOVE with this whole topic and discussion and how well you guys vibe together omg! Please keep doing the podcast, I am LIVING for ittttt ❤️

  • @katiem7689
    @katiem7689 3 года назад +72

    I love how vulnerable Anna is being. Riyadh is an incredible communicator and an amazing advocate! I loved this!

    • @georgejubilee8880
      @georgejubilee8880 3 года назад +1

      So delicate. Using her children private life as content. Adorable! 🤢

  • @mazzanda
    @mazzanda 3 года назад +62

    As a gay person, some of what you were saying was awkward and difficult to hear (generalisations, etc), but we’re all products of our upbringing and experiences, and I utterly commend you for having these conversations publicly. Your intentions are in the right place, and wanting to learn and understand is really important. We can still have completely different ideas about things, but the willingness to be open to difference and understanding of others makes the world a better and safer place to live. Thank you!

    • @Alice-fj3qx
      @Alice-fj3qx 3 года назад +6

      I identify as heterosexual however I still found a lot of aspects of what they were saying surprising and some of there view points were quite outdated, but it’s great that they’re trying to learn.

    • @arts_oflight
      @arts_oflight 3 года назад +1

      Seeing people opening themselfs to learn and grow makes me feel safer in this world.I tottaly agree with you

    • @ohwellwhateverr
      @ohwellwhateverr 3 года назад

      @@Alice-fj3qx Girl, sexuality isn’t an identity you choose, it’s part of who you are.

    • @rosalyngummer6587
      @rosalyngummer6587 3 года назад

      @@ohwellwhateverr nowhere did Alice say sexuality was chosen

  • @elizabethkay4428
    @elizabethkay4428 3 года назад +20

    Please carry these on!! It's so interesting to hear you speak as adults that are separate entities from your kids 💜

  • @conniebollibon6977
    @conniebollibon6977 3 года назад +35

    I love Riyadh, he i such a wonderful person. The first time I have ever been in a guy bar, I was 21yrs old in Tampa Florida it was in a high rise old building it had like ten floors and each floor was different types of gay performances it was a wonderful experience, and I truly did enjoyed it, and I'm 61yrs old now, I truly believe that's was the first experience I have in my life and it was the greatest experience of my life Riyadh. Thank you for being so honestly, I glad Johnathan and Anna had you on their podcast. Thank you so much ❤️

    • @emilyfinn9074
      @emilyfinn9074 3 года назад

      Yeah I agree because Elton John is married to a man and people should be happy for him. I am a straight person and I am happy to be straight.

    • @conniebollibon6977
      @conniebollibon6977 3 года назад

      Emily I love Elton John too, and I'm straight too and i have been married for 35 yrs and my husband was with me when we went into that club back when we were 21 together and we had the greatest experience of a lifetime weather your straight or gay it was a great experience.

  • @JannetjeW
    @JannetjeW 3 года назад +98

    My daughter is gay,and it is never ever be a problem,she has a girlfriend and they are a great couple,and I amso proud of her!

    • @Susanams09
      @Susanams09 3 года назад +9

      @Charlotte York I don't think that's exactly the case, they were showing their child just the way he is, and people on the Internet with their weird ass mentalities were the ones who started saying things about him , ABOUT A CHILD who like you said, doesn't even know what he is

    • @lw8145
      @lw8145 3 года назад +2

      Wish my mum was understanding about me being bi but my nan was x

  • @elliehardy3209
    @elliehardy3209 3 года назад +217

    As a transgender person with parents who haven’t been all too welcoming, it warms my heart to hear conversations like this.

    • @thesecretwindowspot1298
      @thesecretwindowspot1298 3 года назад +4

      same

    • @LawrenceBing
      @LawrenceBing 3 года назад +4

      Same here💙

    • @kellijagusch6308
      @kellijagusch6308 3 года назад +7

      I’m so sorry that your parents aren’t the loving people they should be. Just know that you’re perfect, you are exactly who you were born to be and you’re beautiful. ❤️ my 4 year old socially transitioned in May and she’s never been so happy and vibrant.

    • @elliehardy3209
      @elliehardy3209 3 года назад +1

      @@kellijagusch6308 thank you

    • @megpalmer9196
      @megpalmer9196 3 года назад +4

      @ Kelli Jagusch that’s child abuse.

  • @honh4859
    @honh4859 3 года назад +48

    Astrology gets a lot of bad rep. Also disclaimer - the star signs haven’t actually changed! Anna is still a Scorpio (Loving, feels intense emotions, strong willed) etc, and then you can look at a birth chart for a much more in depth breakdown. Different planets rule different parts of your chart, which can make you less likely to identify with only your sun sign (in Anna’s case - Scorpio). There is so much more. For example, Anna’s moon sign (based off google) is Aries. This makes her ambitious, has an inner drive and very well structured. The moon rules your mother and children, and 2/4 of her children are also Aries. Anyway, long story short - signs haven’t changed and there is so much more to astrology!

    • @fizzybizzy3790
      @fizzybizzy3790 3 года назад +1

      Oohh I love learning about astrology. I am a virgo sun, pisces moon, and virgo rising. Does the pisces moon say what sort of mother I would be?

    • @pinkFEARME
      @pinkFEARME 3 года назад +2

      Yes!!! So annoying how the whole ‘star signs have changed’ story appears in the news every year. it sucks how most ppl who dismiss astrology look at it as “well i don’t think i’m like my sun sign so it’s total bs” when they didn’t even look into their birth chart at all. smh 😂

    • @honh4859
      @honh4859 3 года назад +1

      @@fizzybizzy3790 it can give an indication into your emotional self, who you are at your core, your relationship to your mother and ultimately what you may prioritise when becoming a mother yourself

    • @Jenzzyuk
      @Jenzzyuk 3 года назад +1

      @@fizzybizzy3790 I'm a Virgo as well

    • @CatrionaThePoet
      @CatrionaThePoet 3 года назад +2

      I love astrology. People dismiss it without even giving a look at their full birth chart!

  • @ritaromney584
    @ritaromney584 3 года назад +22

    I loved the guest! Jonathan and Anna, you have handled raising your beautiful Eduardo in such a positive, loving, and accepting way. You are both doing all the right things! Eduardo is so lucky to have you as parents, as are all your children. Each one is allowed to find her/his own way in an environment that promotes love, growth and emotional intelligence. So awesome!

    • @Swiss_Girl
      @Swiss_Girl 3 года назад

      so do they think eduardo is gay? he is awesome and anne and jonathan are amazing.

    • @ritaromney584
      @ritaromney584 3 года назад

      @@Swiss_Girl I would never speak for Jonathan and Anna. I just enjoy their videos so much! I agree with you that Jonathan and Anna are amazing parents!

  • @emiIyrosee
    @emiIyrosee 3 года назад +173

    Absolutely love Riyadh‘s energy, honestly the best trio!

  • @blue-qh5ye
    @blue-qh5ye 3 года назад +2

    Since the original thumbnail featured Eduardo specifically, I think regardless of if he will turn out to be gay, bi, trans, whatever, I think it’s great that you guys have been so supportive of him dressing stereotypically like a girl and playing with typically girls toys from a young age. I know there was a lot of hate when you first started doing it a few years ago, but I think it’s amazing that you’re not restricting him or telling him he can only dress as a boy and act like a boy. With such a big audience as well, I think it’s great that you’re spreading this modern way of parenting!

  • @taylorgodin1119
    @taylorgodin1119 3 года назад +41

    I am so glad you and Anna made this podcast. I teach public school in America and I see preteens struggling all the time with their identity. I have seen children who come from families where they are accepted and supported. I've also seen children who come from families to try and force them to fit a specific mold no matter what. Jonathan, you and Anna do an incredible job of allowing your children to be who they are. Wishing you the best, always! Love you guys!

  • @jaquii77
    @jaquii77 3 года назад +3

    Just by the way you raise your kids and the honesty you have with us and yourselves I applaud you guys. We need more and more conversations like this in the world. I was raised quite traditional like Anna and I like labels too. However I understand that not everyone does and I am ok with it I don’t understand everything but learning. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @jdziengowski
    @jdziengowski 3 года назад +54

    I loved this! People talking about their REAL feelings. Not sugar coating it and pretending to be 100% open to everything and admitting feelings. ❤️ I wish people would have more conversions like this. It was raw and beautiful. And Anna admitting your feelings about your sister was very brave 😭

  • @JamieOHerlihy1
    @JamieOHerlihy1 3 года назад +255

    As a long time fan and a trans woman. I really applaud you for opening up and wanting to learn more about how diverse the world really is. Riyadh as always was impeccable and very well spoken. Anna and Jonathan I love ye guys and even though I still think you have a lot to learn about the lgbt+ community I really do appreciate and applaud you for taking the time to educate yourselves. Lots of love from Cork. Xoxo ❤️🏳️‍🌈

    • @LawrenceBing
      @LawrenceBing 3 года назад +5

      Jamie O Herlihy I highly agree with you, as I’m a transman ✊🏼💙

    • @JamieOHerlihy1
      @JamieOHerlihy1 3 года назад +3

      @@LawrenceBing good to hear 🏳️‍🌈❤️ xx

    • @elliehardy3209
      @elliehardy3209 3 года назад +3

      Totally agree.

    • @DMV8662
      @DMV8662 Год назад +1

      ​@@LawrenceBing still a CHICK... ALWAYS will be XX.. A.B.O.M.I.N.A.T.I.O.N.

  • @Iloveanimals_4
    @Iloveanimals_4 7 месяцев назад +7

    This is sickening.. A person doesn’t decide that at such a young age nor should his parents decide for him just because they want a trans kid. Not to mention, long hair, dresses, and makeup do not make you a girl. Now I’m not hating on the child, I’m hating on his parents- yes “HIS” Don’t bother hating on me and giving me lectures- Idc
    Team god all the way

    • @alex_playz61
      @alex_playz61 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!
      you are at least an educated person unlike most of the media fed lies

  • @emiIyrosee
    @emiIyrosee 3 года назад +110

    I adore these podcasts and the ‘controversial’ topics that you guys are covering! Thank you so much

    • @chantellehsmfand8554
      @chantellehsmfand8554 3 года назад +1

      Emily Rose 😀

    • @_JPSmedia_
      @_JPSmedia_ 3 года назад +4

      Homosexuality isn’t controversial btw

    • @emiIyrosee
      @emiIyrosee 3 года назад +2

      @@_JPSmedia_ I know that’s why it’s in ‘’, I meant it as in things that they wouldn’t talk about on the vlog chanel, I just didn’t word it too well : )

  • @EmilyBoltz
    @EmilyBoltz 3 года назад +8

    I have to say this was amazing. Riyadh is articulate, knowledgeable and truly a pleasure to listen to. What a wonderful interview! I think his book will be a wonderful purchase whether or not one has kids. I think it will be a great insight into understanding and being an ally to the LGBTQ Community.

  • @Acefun0220
    @Acefun0220 4 месяца назад +3

    THIS CHILD WAS 6!!!!!!!!! WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYY!! NO!

  • @user-bm2wj1lt3e
    @user-bm2wj1lt3e Год назад +5

    Why do people force kids I don’t understand let them be and you do parenting he is 7 years old he doesn’t want be a girl but y’all leaned him to it parents are messing up right now. Not in any video did he say he wants to be a girl

    • @randimorgan8109
      @randimorgan8109 5 месяцев назад

      We're you ever taught punctuation, hater?

    • @user-bm2wj1lt3e
      @user-bm2wj1lt3e 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@randimorgan8109 I didn’t care because I was trying to prove a point

    • @JadSaad-mv4ki
      @JadSaad-mv4ki 19 дней назад

      @@randimorgan8109 did we ask

  • @aimeea5158
    @aimeea5158 3 года назад +19

    I recently came out to my parents and it couldn't have went worse with my mum honestly. We've always been so close so it really broke my heart. I really commend you both for being so open and willing to learn, maybe I'll try to get my mum to watch this at some point in the future

  • @amyrucobo7077
    @amyrucobo7077 3 года назад +4

    Just because he likes dresses and feminine things doesn’t mean he’s gay. It’s not ok to assume someone’s sexuality based on how they like to dress. It’s extremely offensive.

  • @meghanh2511
    @meghanh2511 3 года назад +16

    19:44. I will always see my future child as the gender they developed in the womb. Having said that though, if my future son ever wanted to wear 'girls clothes' and vice versa then fine (probably not to school as there are rules). If my future child came out as gay, fine. If my future child came out as trans, fine. In my eyes my child will always be either boy or girl from birth but if they end up transitioning then I will accept their new gender. They will always be loved no matter what.

    • @MeltemKarpat
      @MeltemKarpat 3 года назад +2

      That’s lovely to hear. Just for the record, gender is a socially constructed thing. Centuries and communities have built them up. That’s one thing. Another thing is the sex, the bipolar system which identifies the baby based on their bodily differences. Even that is in fact an unnecessary thing, as it just makes the baby be a part of a system which was brought up to make things as some superior systems wanted it to be. So in fact the gender the baby has in your womb, is something which is constructed, there is just a humanbeing with a certain set of organs :)

    • @meghanh2511
      @meghanh2511 3 года назад +4

      @@MeltemKarpat A baby is born male or female. It's a physical fact and thing. Whatever the baby chooses to be when it is older and understands feelings and knows all about genders, sex, etc, it can be whatever it wants to be. I personally will accept my child as whatever gender or no gender, but that doesn't change the fact that all babies in the world since humans first existed are born male or female.

    • @xoxostoneyoxxo
      @xoxostoneyoxxo 3 года назад +1

      @@meghanh2511 That's oversimplified though because we know that intersex people exist. It is assumed that 1% of the world's population are intersex, which is the same as the percentage of people with red hair. There are actually quite a few chromosomal sex pairings that exist (XX, XY, XXX, XXY, X, XXXY) not just XX and XY, and each of these pairings may result in different primary sex characteristics (gonads, ovaries, etc.), secondary sex characteristics (body hair, voice pitch), or an over/under production of certain hormones such as estrogen and testosterone. So a baby may appear to be female at birth and assigned female as their gender, but then during puberty they find that where the ovaries should be there are actually testes. Of course this is just an example and there are so many ways a person's biological sex could be expressed. I find this all really fascinating and have been studying gender and biological sex since 2012! Hope you are staying safe and well. www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

  • @taishagomez5335
    @taishagomez5335 3 года назад +17

    "Let's see if Jonathan is one of these new gay people" that was such a good laugh for me.

  • @gemturner4709
    @gemturner4709 3 года назад +34

    I hadn't heard of Riyadh before this but I love his energy. He was really insightful.

  • @GingerbreadGirl1983
    @GingerbreadGirl1983 3 года назад +9

    He for sure is surpressinf his sexuality Jonathan which is why he is pushing wardo on tiktok to be the " supportive" parent. But he is just in awe of wardo because Jonathan is hiding who he is and his own confusing sexuality. I have often wondered if Jonathan is gay or bi I mean look at Philip scholfeld she still married and only recently came out.

  • @naooo-m4s
    @naooo-m4s 4 месяца назад +3

    i don’t think u should let ur kid to be gay….God made him a boy and accept it…and the kid? the kid could be traumatized by others and it’s not that healthy for his physical to suport bullying 😢. my opinion is that u don’t let ur kid do that and postit🙅‍♀️

  • @abbieowen565
    @abbieowen565 3 года назад +124

    I’m so confused! I’ve never looked at Jonathan and thought he was gay?!

    • @kaykaymumof386
      @kaykaymumof386 3 года назад +48

      See I have. If you would have just met him and not no he was with Anna I deffo would of thought he was gay.

    • @peggycrowley9534
      @peggycrowley9534 3 года назад +11

      Of course he is....or pretends to be...all about views.

    • @maneskinnnnn7190
      @maneskinnnnn7190 3 года назад +7

      @@peggycrowley9534 get a life.

    • @maneskinnnnn7190
      @maneskinnnnn7190 3 года назад +5

      anyone can be gay, stereotypes mean nothing

    • @abbieowen565
      @abbieowen565 3 года назад +3

      @@maneskinnnnn7190 Very true, my comment kinda defeats the whole point of their discussion. What I meant to say is, I never looked at Jonathan and thought he had traits of what is stereotypically seen a "gay" man.

  • @charlottecoley2126
    @charlottecoley2126 3 года назад +3

    I love how natural this conversation is. A credit to you all to share this so openly and positively 👍💕

  • @shopaholiclivin
    @shopaholiclivin 3 года назад +2

    This was an amazing video. I might share it with some parents who have kids who are LGBTQ. You guys did a great job. I love how open and raw it was because this is so important. Anna thank you for sharing your feelings/thoughts because it made it easier to understand the different sides of how things can be seen. Love y’all

  • @irisiemenschot9791
    @irisiemenschot9791 3 года назад +1

    I love that you are having these open conversations and are being so honest!
    I hope that we can move to a world where parents won't assume that their kids are straight and sis untill their kids tell them otherwise, like can't we just make it as normal to be anything else and when it comes up in conversation point out what we are?

  • @almondbabie4957
    @almondbabie4957 3 года назад +88

    I think it’s definitely comforting for Eduardo knowing that Jonathan also wore dresses and played with dolls growing up. I am so happy that you guys are entirely supportive of your son, whatever he may identify as!

    • @EloiseEighteen
      @EloiseEighteen 3 года назад +21

      @Charlotte York they show their kids wearing all types of clothes, why should this be something Eduardo keeps secret? It shouldn't be anything anyone ever bullies or judges him for; that is completely unacceptable in 2020 let alone 2030 when he is a teenager.

    • @susannahoffs9740
      @susannahoffs9740 3 года назад +14

      @@EloiseEighteen I totally agree with you on this, in this modern world anyone should be able to wear what they want. But in the real world, bullies exist and will use what Eduardo is doing now against him for years to come. As Charlotte York has said this information should not be in the public domain until Eduardo is old enough to decide what he wants people to know about his preferences.

    • @Sadiehoney
      @Sadiehoney 3 года назад +3

      My daughter wears my sons clothes all the time, the only reason why I don’t like it is cause he’s 1 and she’s 3 and she stretches them out 😂 but she picks out dinosaurs outfits, and super hero stuff “boys clothes” and her favorite color is blue (stereotype favorite colors), I’m not going to tell her no to what she likes 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Sadiehoney
      @Sadiehoney 3 года назад +2

      @Charlotte York I do tho, I have social media, I don’t have subscribers or a following on anything, but if I did, it wouldn’t make a difference. Im proud of my kids just like they are so I understand.

    • @e.l98
      @e.l98 3 года назад +12

      @@susannahoffs9740 So Eduardo should just hide who he is and what he enjoys and not be proud of that? Teaching children to hide themselves in fear of bullies is so toxic. How about instead we break the stereotypes and make change in the world so little boys are no longer bullied for something stupid like playing with dolls and wearing a dress

  • @amkurthy6640
    @amkurthy6640 3 года назад +33

    I really respect you guys for putting yourselves out there, willing to learn and engage and have uncomfortable conversations.

  • @hopereay9259
    @hopereay9259 3 года назад +2

    I am a very open minded person, I always have been and when I came across Anna and Jonathan, I dunno something just felt right, I felt "I have to watch these people" and now 4/5 years later I'm still watching them and admiring the way they bring their children into the world. Being how accepting they are of Eduardo wearing a princess dress is just amazing and for example like "oh should we really allow him to wear that?" I absolutely love how they don't even think twice about it they just allow him to be free no matter what his preference may be in his future.

  • @bethburton7812
    @bethburton7812 3 года назад +19

    Anna and Jonathan, you have knocked it out of the park with this episode! Love the informative nature of this discussion with your amazing guest, helping to guide parents and grandparents on supporting their children!

  • @GeorgiaERoberts
    @GeorgiaERoberts 3 года назад +21

    I really look forward to the day when no one has to 'come out', when being straight is not assumed.

  • @ayitsshannon
    @ayitsshannon 3 года назад +12

    This was incredible. As a young gay person who has watched you guys for years, (I was at that very convention in Anaheim and travelled from Scotland to be there) I really admire your openness on this topic and your willingness to be educated. You don’t claim to know everything lgbt+ related and that’s entirely okay but the fact you’re willing to learn for your children’s sake etc is heartwarming. You should both be so proud :)

  • @sarahgreene9831
    @sarahgreene9831 3 года назад +6

    11:15 "you know....talks with the voice that you have" I'M DEAD😂😂😭😭 i remember when i first ever started watching i thought Jonathan's voice was so high but now i can't even tell?? like it doesn't even sound high to me anymore i'm so used to it😅😂

  • @djuptonful
    @djuptonful 3 года назад +31

    what a wonderful vlog. i have a son who is gay and he is a wonderful, kind, intelligent man who has adopted two sweet little boys who are brothers.

  • @jlongino51823
    @jlongino51823 3 года назад +26

    I love my bisexual son. As long as he’s healthy and happy then his life isn’t my concern.

  • @XP-nt9iy
    @XP-nt9iy 5 месяцев назад +11

    These clowns care more about getting attention online than they care about their own children.

  • @kathleenfitzsimons3388
    @kathleenfitzsimons3388 3 года назад +2

    Great to meet Riyadh. Such a great video and such a totally accepting guy. I will be looking him up now. Your total honesty and his reaction to it were so refreshing. Great! ❤️🇮🇪

  • @boryivanova2692
    @boryivanova2692 3 года назад +196

    Can we have an episode with Erika? 🥰😍

  • @MsLooulooute
    @MsLooulooute 3 года назад +5

    I totally feel you Ryadh I wish there wasn’t a “need” to come out as whatever... I just feel like the fact that they have to announce it is not fair because straight people don’t have to... because it’s assumed they are as soon as they’re born... Which I feel is wrong like you said we shouldn’t put people in boxes! And that’s something I’m gonna try hard to do whenever I have kids!

  • @mariacasella979
    @mariacasella979 3 года назад +9

    Great Video!!I have always felt Anna and Jonathan should do a podcast important,relevant,emotional,heart felt,real,talk...Love this channel,so informative,and always coming from compassion,acceptance,unconditional love

  • @bethaxe115
    @bethaxe115 3 года назад +1

    I have watched the Sacconejoly channel for over 7 years, when I first started watching I wanted to be part of the family and now as a 22 year old lesbian I feel exactly the same. My mum is currently growing and learning as well and trust me, that in itself is more validating then you could ever believe. Thank you Anna for understanding that everyone has room to grow and for Jonathon for forever being an incredible ally x

  • @YourFavoriteLunarFairy
    @YourFavoriteLunarFairy 11 месяцев назад +24

    A trans kid is like a vegan cat. Everyone knows who’s making the decisions.

    • @user-ns9nr4ty1q
      @user-ns9nr4ty1q 2 месяца назад +1

      No?? Children can feel gender dysphoria e.g. when i was a kid i felt depressed about my body and thought about being a girl every day

    • @toneeyyhh
      @toneeyyhh Месяц назад +3

      @@user-ns9nr4ty1q you went through a phase.

    • @Siberian_Huskey
      @Siberian_Huskey Месяц назад

      @@user-ns9nr4ty1qthere is a reason why the Almighty God made 2 genders. You either have a Hole or a Pole. Me personally dont care if your gay or not. Almighty God made humans free so if you want to be gay be gay. Dont use that weapon against a Man or a Woman like a race card. The facts are simple you cant fully change your gender. Can a Man give birth to babies since that man is now a women. Can a woman have a pole and help a woman make a baby. The answer is No. You cannot change sex cuz you want to. Its impossible.

    • @OliverFlynn-cf8ex
      @OliverFlynn-cf8ex 18 дней назад +1

      @@YourFavoriteLunarFairy that’s true

    • @OliverFlynn-cf8ex
      @OliverFlynn-cf8ex 18 дней назад +1

      @@user-ns9nr4ty1qyour wrong Karen they did it to gain clout

  • @tinacolding5971
    @tinacolding5971 3 года назад +40

    This is without a doubt the best video you've ever made.

  • @wendymessenger915
    @wendymessenger915 3 года назад +16

    My daughter years ago kept saying my son was gay i didn’t believe so I asked him he said yes he was seventeen I vomited cried I thought to myself he is my son after all I don’t love him any less I’m very proud of him he is an adult now he is my son I love him very much

  • @gizzystravels4677
    @gizzystravels4677 3 года назад +17

    My daughter came out a few years back as bi sexual and my response was "ok what do you want for tea?" it's never ever been an issue for me or my husband, However shes in a relationship with a male and he has just told me he is "pansexual" now this one has confused the living day lights out of me... I'm like hang on you either like males or females or both..... so confusing but hey ho he is a decent lad and he loves my daughter so thats all thats important to me.

    • @amycampbell5195
      @amycampbell5195 3 года назад +1

      The term pansexual refers to the attraction to all genders rather than just the typical male and female. He basically means that he can be attracted to anyone regardless of gender :)

    • @gizzystravels4677
      @gizzystravels4677 3 года назад +1

      @@amycampbell5195 the same as bisexual then.. attracted to both male and female.. im sorry I don't wish to cause insult to anyone.. I mean no offence but I just don't understand this one.. maybe I see things in black and white... if your born a female your female.. if your born male your a male.. if your female transitioning into male your male... if your male transitioning into female your female.. I just don't understand if your with a female or a male or both its gay straight bisexual. Confused..... com

  • @annasjeeprvadventures5883
    @annasjeeprvadventures5883 3 года назад +4

    I understand what Anna went through about her sister.. My best friend from high school is gay... and I didn’t know... it was back in the late 70’s and it was hard for her.... I didn’t find out until later in life.. and we are still great friends... her and I have so much in common.. just she likes girls and I like boys ❤️❤️

  • @christinamazzatti4198
    @christinamazzatti4198 3 года назад +3

    Hi I love being able to watch your videos with closed captions and wish I could be able to hear/understand what is being said. No closed captions option again? This the second video of No Kids Allowed that isn't available. Please make it available! Much appreciated.

  • @talle3566
    @talle3566 3 года назад +31

    I think a very important part that you guys might not be aware of is that
    Jonathan and Anna keep saying "if my child BECAME gay" or "if my child CHANGES their gender attraction" but you must understand that it's not "changing" or "becoming". LGBTQIA+ people are born this way.
    Society has made us presume that people are always heterosexual until proven otherwise, but the truth is, no one should be presumed to be anything before they tell you what they are or aren't.
    Just please bear that in mind, saying change or become is wrong and misleading♡
    Also this video is super important and I love you guys so much for doing this

    • @danielwhite469
      @danielwhite469 3 года назад

      I'm gay. And I really don't believe people are BORN gay.

    • @sgtmian
      @sgtmian 3 года назад +1

      @@danielwhite469 what do you believe then? because although i wasn't aware of it then, i've been drawn to women since i was three or four. couldn't even tie my shoes, but i knew i liked women. do you believe people are born straight? because it's the same thing.

    • @danielwhite469
      @danielwhite469 3 года назад +6

      @@sgtmian i don't believe anyone is born labelled anything. i believe people learn to develop and realise what they like. it's a matter of understanding your surroundings and seeing what they like when growing up.

    • @sgtmian
      @sgtmian 3 года назад

      @@danielwhite469 i mean, liking women isn't really a label, i just like women, have always liked women. since i learned how to form thoughts and sentences. which leads me to believe it was always there, because i don't see what could have happened in those three years that would have influenced me to be drawn to one specific gender. anyway, point is nobody "becomes" gay. it's a slow discovery for some, sure, a realization, but i don't know a single gay person who hasn't looked back after that realization and said "how could i not have known? it was always there".

  • @Survival_Shelter
    @Survival_Shelter Год назад +21

    You're literally the last person I would take parental advise from.

    • @giddy9831
      @giddy9831 Год назад +3

      Fr

    • @Ms-Candy-H
      @Ms-Candy-H 7 месяцев назад

      Who are you referring to???? The parents or the guest????

    • @Brianaya4383
      @Brianaya4383 5 месяцев назад

      Advice

  • @xentraz
    @xentraz 3 года назад +3

    I feel like in today's society, the fact that coming out is still such a big deal still is a little strange. I know for a lot of people its a hard struggle (was for me) but I would wish for my children that the whole coming out thing isn't necessary at all. I would never want my child to have to feel like they have to come out about anything, I'd hope they would just feel accepted no matter what, from day 1.

  • @Chuckinch
    @Chuckinch 3 года назад +7

    This is child abuse at its finest. What kind of parents exploits their kids for views and money? Then if that’s not bad enough, tell your 6 year old on camera that he’s getting hate comments online. No Johnathan, YOU are getting hate comments for your disgusting “parenting”. You both deserve to go to jail.

  • @rosekay1083
    @rosekay1083 3 года назад +9

    Firstly, I absolutely love this channel and that you guys decided to do this. Second, I loved this topic. It was very interesting and I think everyone needs to just open their minds and understand that at the end of the day, WE ARE ALL HUMAN!!

  • @carolbaswell5019
    @carolbaswell5019 3 года назад +6

    I LOVE that you are bringing this to the forefront. I would also like to tell you about some amazing private online groups (via Facebook) for Mom's just getting this news. Frist of all, there is Just Because They Breathe (for Christian Mom's trying to navigate through their belief system, Freedheart Mom's (for Mom's who have come full circle and just want the support of other Mom's), and then their is Serendippity doo dah for Mom's of all beliefs. They were life savers for me when I first found out our son is gay. God has brought me full circle and I just LOVE better now. Wouldn't take anything for my gay child and all that he has taught me. :-))) I spend my time now trying to be a bridge in helping other parents and LGBTQ people navigate through this process. Thank-you again!!

  • @School_sucks.com1234
    @School_sucks.com1234 6 месяцев назад +3

    If it's not for kids then why did you post it on RUclips THERE KIDS HERE ON RUclips

  • @katiechilds5029
    @katiechilds5029 3 года назад +3

    Anna was so honest in this, it was really good to listen to it. I loved listening to this podcast! I thought it was done in such a great way! Done really respectfully and was very informative. I think it gave a really good perspective on all the topics. I have learnt so much listening to this xx

  • @lindseysims2349
    @lindseysims2349 3 года назад +18

    This was such a refreshing conversation! So genuine and I loved how open everyone was. I know you have a ton on your plate, but please keep these up!! 💛

  • @meera1234able
    @meera1234able 3 года назад +1

    Good job forgetting the book in the first place and than name of it while introducing guest 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @stephaniex8776
    @stephaniex8776 3 года назад +6

    Love how honest anna was about her family

  • @lucyriley6632
    @lucyriley6632 3 года назад +5

    I have two lesbian mums and am a lesbian myself, in nursery I was playing mums and dads with friends but wanted to play mums and mums coz that was all I had ever known stuff like this needs to be normalised. I’ve been fan of sacconejolys work for ages n this was amazing!

  • @scorpionic08
    @scorpionic08 3 года назад +3

    Great Conversations! As Riyadah said at the end, being open to learning is more important than just accepting societies ingrained homophobia and gender roles.

  • @D_ig
    @D_ig 5 месяцев назад +2

    You know it’s never too late for adoption

  • @charliescott768
    @charliescott768 3 года назад +1

    I don't really see the issue with a gender reveals, its not going to harm the growing baby.. Whether or not my child is biological male or female they will be raised the same. In terms or clothes, hair, toys, interests ect I'll always follow their lead. I'll never dress up my baby as a big blue or pink pompom because they're a baby, it's unnecessary, they should just be warm and clean 😂. Kids should have a say in their appearance and other aspects of their lives regardless of gender because they're human and deserve that respect.

  • @Charlierose214
    @Charlierose214 3 года назад +8

    that gender reveal idea, is kinda, like the woman who "invented the gender reveal concept", where she says she regretted creating that because her girl at the time, sees herself as a boy (I think or vice versa can't remember but I did read she regretted even starting that)

  • @TheaAMcCarty
    @TheaAMcCarty 3 года назад +72

    Me after watching this podcast and picking my 6 year old up from school: "Hey, I love you and everything about you and I always will, no matter what, forever. You know that right?"
    My daughter: "Mom, why are you so weird?"
    Lol, but just gotta really drive that message home just like Riyadh said to!!!

  • @sierrahall8791
    @sierrahall8791 3 года назад

    It’s as simple as waking up each day and ask your child, “who are you?” and then love them for who they are. It’s such a beautiful thing to just see a person and not have to judge, label, or define them. Just witness them. From the second they’re born your child is this undiscovered person that you get the pleasure of knowing and learning about. I just think that’s the most beautiful part of becoming a parent.

  • @samanthajo8335
    @samanthajo8335 3 года назад +2

    So well done and well spoken, open and honest. Truly, back when I started watching this channel in the early days I really see such a progressive and loving family growing from you both. Riyadh was a fantastic guest!