The Yugoslavians were able put a 122mm destroyer of a gun on the Sherman ...yes it was on Soviet naval destroyers and the same gun mounted on an IS2/3/4 It was only in prototype stage and was scraped
here are they, 0:37 M4E3 with A65 engine, crappy 75mm, good speed - tier 5 premium 1:50 M4-Pershing, good 90mm, big sluggish, poor armor, a poor man T26E3 Eagle 7 - tier 7 premium 2:33 M4-M41 Hybrid, high pen 76mm, thin turret armor, gameplay similar with to Strv 74 - tier 6 premium 2:52 M4-T49 Hybrid, good 90mm, thin turret armor - tier 6 or 7 premium 3:20 M4 with dual axis stabilizer, standard m4 with short 75, excellent gun handling - tier 5 3:51 Up-armored Sherman = M4A3E8 Thunderbolt, already in game
"Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should..." Im pretty sure Jurassic Park has been mentioning that and giving good reason for that for literal decades
I love experimental vehicle builds. Piecing components from various vehicles together into a new one. Even if it is not practical, it is super-duper cool.
The thought experiment is peetty much the description of some peototype works of german engineers in ww2. Those ranged frome naval guns on tanks over wire guided AT missiles on Tiger 2s to Tiger 2 tanks having autoloading gun systems from CAS aircraft.
i have an even dumber thought experiment. what is the oldest tank hull that can use a modern turret? and im only calling it that because you called it that. it was an awsome vid like always
Probably the T-54. I remember coming across a T-55 (identical in most respects to a later T-54, except with NBC protection) that had been fitted with a T-90 turret once, as well as composite applique armour on the hull. Type 59s (basically Chinese copies of the T-54) can also accept Type 99 turrets, too.
Imagine just giving the US army an “Ultimate Sherman” and seeing what they had to say. This honestly seems like you asked the Germans to make a Porsche Tiger, but with a Sherman instead. Cool, Probably Unreliable, and Impractical.
@@natalieorlando6583 and do what ? 90mm wont even pen the ufp of t44 ... and patton is so fucking slow the americans had problems deciding if it was medium or heavy tank .... IVAN BRING DA IS-3 the americans gonna have problems penning it from sides
T-34 maybe, but Panzer IV, probably not, there is very little data and information for it, or anything German that isn't Tiger 1 or Tiger 2. From what I could find atleast, maybe you could have some luck
@@Appletank8 Well then the obvious solution would be to change the suspension. Most other German tanks including the Panzer 3 used torsion bars instead of leaf springs, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Panzer 4 could have them. In fact I think the main reason why the Panzer 4 used leaf springs was because the Germans wanted to see the advantages and disadvantages of both types of suspension on top of the simpler design.
T-34-100 project, existence of barrel fired ATGMs for said 100mm gun as well as APSDFS rounds. Plus you're making a mistake of counting all T-34 as one tank which is not as true as for M4, which was a more modular design. If you slap various T-34 together, you would simply end up with either post war polish T-34 or with T-44. Maybe T-44-100 considering point above.
@Dwarov 1 not going to happen. T-34 sadly has not enough space to properly trun the engine from inline position to sideway one. So calling it even T-44 or T-44-100 was already me stretching it very far. In fact with T-34 I'd even say that engine position was the most important drawback which did nothing tomake tank worse in combat, BUT made sure that it got obsolete very soon. It greatly limited modernisation reserve. Unless you're not afraid to get to 40 or even 45 tons by adding all of that to subpar configuration and then strengthening suspension, tracks and transmission even further to hold it all.
Crossing fingers that'll you'll do a video on the Churchill tanks. A tank that should have been obsolete yet manages to bulldog it's way through the war by being such a robust design including the Crocodile and AVRE.
That's what the T-90 literally is to the T-72; it was also referred to as a T-72 variant for a while before the designation change. As for the T-64; look up the T-64 Bulat that the Ukranians made.
Depending on how far into post war we're allowed to go, I feel like the IMI-OTO 60mm would be a better choice for a gun. In a pershing turret for funsies, and to separate it from the real life super shermans.
Eh, the 60mm wouldn't be very good for anything more than AT, since its HE payload would be pretty lackluster. Perhaps the French 105 mounted in M51s would be better for more versatility.
True but just because you are from the south doesn't mean you have to hate him. Or an individual just the same way an American from the North doesn't have to hate Robert. E .LEE. But again it understandable that people wouldn't like either of these generals for various reasons. But its easy for me to make assumption as I live in Canada and well given that it was a civil war that we weren't involved in. But hey tanks a tank though only tank not to like is the one always breaking down lol. Kinda like german late war panzers they looked powerful and sophisticated. But were prone to more break downs to do part shortages, complexity of the parts combined with general weight put on the suspension. And on top of that they need to have different tracks that were narrow so they could be transported to the front by train. Also Interleaved road wheels I think was one the dumbest Ideas you could do for a tank. It meant if one wheel was broken you had to take layer of good wheels of the tracks to get at the broken wheel. Also just bad for collecting mud and when the mud freezes in the winter time you can't go anywhere any time soon. It had some pros i guess for a smoother ride maybe and to keep some solid objects like wood out that could jam up the wheels to. But I didn't always like the Sherman but it proved to be a very versatile combat vehicle ranging from multi role to specialized. Also the simple wheel and bolted on suspension design was more efficient. And if the Sherman's had problems they had a surplus of parts meaning they were quick fixes which gave it the edge of something like Tiger 1 sure it was imposing but it only worked 40 to 50 percent of time and when it did break down it was time consuming and temper mental beast. It also happened to be very fuel hungry to deny fuel for other panzers that would need it to. I know this just on the ultimate sherman but even the most basic sherman was a good and smart tank design although 1 sherman might not be that threatening like a lone Tiger tank but a column of 10 of them supporting an infantry advance now we start see that its force not underestimate. I know it was long reply but explaining why I like it to. Sure it may not have infamy like the Tiger and Panther tanks but it was workhorse tank that got the job done when it was needed.
The general findings on the firefly's gun was that it was vastly less accurate and at ranges it could pen the US guns would pen the same, and then more at further distances where the firefly would just miss
@@ThatBROperator That is an absurd question given the many variants of both the M4 and various hulls used by the firefly tanks (All also M4 hulls with removed bow machine guns, the most often used gun on a tank is/ was the machine guns fyi). I already mentioned some items to which you have responded. I think your OP was about a firefly turret on the M4A3E2? The tank was great as it was but using the firefly gun would decrease accuracy and effectiveness. Any short range gains would be minimal and not worth the tradeoff
I would grind for the Chilean Sherman with the 60mm hyper velocity cannon in War Thunder. The main gun is already in the game, so it could make for a great event vehicle* (as long as the grind isn’t a ridiculous process like the Object 279)
I really enjoyed this video. Just looking at a tank and saying, hey, what is the absolute best this tank can be, is a very fun and interesting idea. Id honestly love for this to become a series.
Do you think for a "is it practical" video you could discuss the implications of drop troopers, such as ODST's, as well as the armor they wear? It seems to be metal p[late, as well as a full face visor.
Their armor is actually a hardsuit, capable of 15 minutes of EVA activity from an internal tank of air. This also makes it fully sealed against biological or toxicological contaminants groundside, for the same 15 minutes. The extra plate on the front is just additional armor made of titanium and ceramic materials. The rest of the suit is also armored, but the area the additional plate is for is y'know, where your vital organs are, and so gets extra love. Plus its the largest area of your body, so hopefully will catch a bullet and prevent your suit from depressurizing when you get shot in space.
@@Abdukctkaz but is launching a man like a bullet to the enemy practical and won’t cause a casualty if they hit a non flat angle? Biggest problem I see is that there is no steering with it which means if you land in the middle of a platoon, tough shit you’re going to face overwhelming odds
Nice video! Warthunder could combine it all and call it a "Sherman V.2" and send it up against the Panther II- the poster child for ahistorical tanks that combines unrelated experimental and blueprint improvements into one 'super' fantasy tank.
I thought this was going to be about either the M-50/51 Israeli Shermans or the M-60 Sherman in Chilean use. Still a cool video so I'm not going to complain.
And scrapping the Interleaved road wheel system for something simpler. Whoever thought of it was stupid or secretly a spy for the German resistance. Or is sadist who enjoys the suffering of others. Yes because having 2 sets of inner and outer road wheels that fit together like gear cogs is a good Idea. Oh look one wheel just broke now I have to take off 3 wheels to get to the broken one. I wonder how the design team came up with that Idea and who approved it in the Tigers design. Hans The road wheels stopped moving I think the mud froze again on the wheels !
Drew Thatcher in an ideal scenario, it did provide an advantage in ground pressure and tank stability. However, none of its designers seemed to care about how hard it would be to do on field repairs. Torsion bars took a while to enter US service because they were annoying to replace, but eventually the better stability it provided outweighed the problem of what to do with a snapped bar.
@@Appletank8 yah but i just think the cons of tanks like the tiger out way the pros. As I am no longer a blind wehraboo kid. Yes the sherman wasn't big beast by tank standards but it was a simple workhorse tank that was a war winner. Because it cheap and easily mass producable and had the means to to upgrade when needed.
Overall you did a decent job with designing the perfect sherman variant but you forgot one major peice of information. The sherman tank was exported in large numbers to most of America's allies during and after ww2, and some of these nations came up with their own improvements to the sherman. The last major upgrade any sherman got was in the 1960s when Israel upgunned 180 of their Sherman's with a then state of the art French 105mm gun enabling them to destroy any tank in the world at the time. In addition these tanks also had diesel engines instead of gasoline ones which improved their survivability since diesel is less flammable than gas.
You have to make a video "Everything wrong with" about the fast and furious 6 tank and the 1st Transformers movie tank, its called devastator if im not wrong
Number crunching aside if you get someone to put the vehicle into a visual reference....or make a rough sketch of the final product. Keep up the goodwork spooks really cool "what if".
this was interesting i must say... its cool because I didn't realize the M4, t26 and the M-41 and T-49 had the same turret ring diameter... its alwase cool to learn something new thanks spook keep it up mate
If i learned anything the M4 and its variants were good tanks at what they did. They did there job well with what equipment they had AND who needs those upgrades anyway when M4's work well on there own.
The Chrysler multi bank engine was put in 5,000 M4A4 Sherman tanks produced between June 1942 and November 1943 which were all sold to the British and Canadian Armies where they served in North Africa, Italy, and Europe. Many of these were upgraded with the 17 pounder gun which had the greatest armour penetration of any tank gun used in WWII. After VE Day, many M4A4s were sold to Chang Kai Chek who used them against the communists in China. After losing the civil war, about thirty of these tanks were evacuated to Taiwan.
Hey Spook I loved the vid, I hope you do more like it. It could be a series where you put together ultimate tanks with all thier best parts. It was a great thought experiment to see what the M4 could have become.
Great video! I think it would be cool if you also looked as some of the postwar modifications that people added in shermans (a hole pletera of different engines, the Israeli 105mm or the Chilean 60mm high velocity guns, and more absurd stuff like the Yugoslavians trying to add the gun from the IS-2 into the sherman. It would make for an even crazier sherman, although even less realistic :).
You're going to love Sprocket. I have my own ideas for a version of the M4 more in keeping with my own tastes. Wider hull and driveshaft running straight along the bottom, which means you can drop the turret basket down lower, which means the turret ring is level with the engine deck making for a considerably lower silhouette (and incidentally less wonky top heavy proportions). Wider tracks as standard even with VVSS. And a high velocity gun, because while you can shoot two high explosive shells if the first didn't finish the job, chances are the second armour piercing shell isn't going to make it through the armour if the first one didn't. Basically I want a miniature Panther.
Now that I know the M41 and Sherman turret rings are the same diameter, I kind of want to see an M41 with the Sherman 76mm turret. It would probably make for a great light tank in War Thunder, solving the M41's main problem, lackluster damage. And the pen decrease would necessitate a drop in battle rating, perhaps down to 5.3 or 5.7.
I'll be honest, i liked this video, it's like what World of Tanks developers think when making a new tank, just strap parts of others on it and make it premium, except in this one at least all of them are actually mount-able and could (maybe) work
Literally the level of customization I've always wanted in any vehicular combat based game, whether it be to the detriment of the vehicle or not. Any and all components available for use.
That's probably about the closest I've ever gotten. Even in the original mechs were pretty customizable although I don't think you could put a heavy torso on a light set of legs or anything like that. Basically, even if putting a weak engine into a vehicle has a negative effect or downside, as long as it fits I'd like to be able to do it rather than being locked into a limited number of parts according to a tree. Let me have my Frankentank.
You can treat this series as making second video on fixed tanks of GLA in C&C Generals. As realistically their Marauder tanks would be scrapped T-54/55, M48/60, Centurions fitted with salvaged armaments of their replacements while Scorpions would be mixes of AMX-12, M41, PT-76 and so on. With upgrades to both being extra armor akin to T-55 Enigma, north korean MANPAD racks, ATGM on the turret, more machine guns, rocket pod taken from a helicopter, modern radios and commercially available versions of night and thermal vision and optics.
2:15 Classical example of why the Tiger 1 H should not be 5.3 at the same BR as the M4A2(76). Immagine if that player would use his brain instead of his luck to angle his armor that way.
I thought it was pretty cool to imagine what the ultimate version of a Sherman would be
The Yugoslavians were able put a 122mm destroyer of a gun on the Sherman ...yes it was on Soviet naval destroyers and the same gun mounted on an IS2/3/4
It was only in prototype stage and was scraped
M51 super Sherman
Orks mounted a DEFF KANNON on da big red kustom Sherman!
Calliope time
The ultimate verison of the tiger #e75
Oh god you just designed the next world of tanks premium tank.
@@thepulle4722 add some all black camo, and you're good to go.
Its is somewhat telling that exactly this was also the first thought I had after watching this.
at least it wouldnt be russian
@@pixellivesmatter8409 that would be the seperate black friday version
here are they,
0:37 M4E3 with A65 engine, crappy 75mm, good speed - tier 5 premium
1:50 M4-Pershing, good 90mm, big sluggish, poor armor, a poor man T26E3 Eagle 7 - tier 7 premium
2:33 M4-M41 Hybrid, high pen 76mm, thin turret armor, gameplay similar with to Strv 74 - tier 6 premium
2:52 M4-T49 Hybrid, good 90mm, thin turret armor - tier 6 or 7 premium
3:20 M4 with dual axis stabilizer, standard m4 with short 75, excellent gun handling - tier 5
3:51 Up-armored Sherman = M4A3E8 Thunderbolt, already in game
"Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should..."
Im pretty sure Jurassic Park has been mentioning that and giving good reason for that for literal decades
Germans should know this well too
Yes
Ahoy too
@@aguynamedstetchkov4690 Ahoy, lol
Also said in Transformers Age Of Extinction.
"Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should"
That's the summary of every German prototype vehicle and premium vehicle.
And tech tree tank
"Your suggestion has been passed on to the development team."
New premium tonk.
yes
Br 2.7
@American Crusader was a meme
“I will pass that to the higher-ups”
I love experimental vehicle builds. Piecing components from various vehicles together into a new one. Even if it is not practical, it is super-duper cool.
Absolutely agree
The thought experiment is peetty much the description of some peototype works of german engineers in ww2.
Those ranged frome naval guns on tanks over wire guided AT missiles on Tiger 2s to Tiger 2 tanks having autoloading gun systems from CAS aircraft.
I'm more of a plane person than a tank person but the video was still very entertaining would be cool of someone did something similar with a plane
What's the ultimate Sherman?
Spookston: "let's look at all the upgrades and prototype things for fun"
Game designers: "two main guns and quad tracks!"
i have an even dumber thought experiment. what is the oldest tank hull that can use a modern turret?
and im only calling it that because you called it that. it was an awsome vid like always
The Germans fitted some Leopard 2 turrets to M48 Patton hulls back in the Cold war.
Probably the T-54. I remember coming across a T-55 (identical in most respects to a later T-54, except with NBC protection) that had been fitted with a T-90 turret once, as well as composite applique armour on the hull. Type 59s (basically Chinese copies of the T-54) can also accept Type 99 turrets, too.
i imagine a mark 1 tank with the turret of a patton m60 that would be scary
@@andrew2353 Pratically the Patton 2000.
Isn’t the Type 99 an indigenous modified T-72 or some other T-series tank?
Imagine just giving the US army an “Ultimate Sherman” and seeing what they had to say.
This honestly seems like you asked the Germans to make a Porsche Tiger, but with a Sherman instead. Cool, Probably Unreliable, and Impractical.
More like most if not all German war machines
yes
The marines would use that for over a century.
The Israelis and Chile made their Sherman firing HEAT and even APFSDS
@@darnit1944, Damn, makin' General Shepard proud. All they need is to burn down some Dixies.
Finally a weapon to surpass Stalinium Steel!
Pittsburgh steel
Untill t44 appears
@@mr.waffentrager4400 GET DA PATTEN BILLY
@@natalieorlando6583 and do what ? 90mm wont even pen the ufp of t44 ... and patton is so fucking slow the americans had problems deciding if it was medium or heavy tank ....
IVAN BRING DA IS-3
the americans gonna have problems penning it from sides
@@mr.waffentrager4400 BILLY CALL UP FRITZ WE GON TAKE THE MBT 70 FOR A SPIN
Fantastic video idea and concept, I would love for this to be turned into a series with possibly pz 4 or t-34.
T-34 maybe, but Panzer IV, probably not, there is very little data and information for it, or anything German that isn't Tiger 1 or Tiger 2.
From what I could find atleast, maybe you could have some luck
Tirpitz
I read that the suspension of the pz4 was reaching its limit by the end of its service, so i don’t know how much more it could take.
@@Appletank8 Well then the obvious solution would be to change the suspension. Most other German tanks including the Panzer 3 used torsion bars instead of leaf springs, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Panzer 4 could have them.
In fact I think the main reason why the Panzer 4 used leaf springs was because the Germans wanted to see the advantages and disadvantages of both types of suspension on top of the simpler design.
T-34-100 project, existence of barrel fired ATGMs for said 100mm gun as well as APSDFS rounds. Plus you're making a mistake of counting all T-34 as one tank which is not as true as for M4, which was a more modular design. If you slap various T-34 together, you would simply end up with either post war polish T-34 or with T-44. Maybe T-44-100 considering point above.
@Dwarov 1 not going to happen. T-34 sadly has not enough space to properly trun the engine from inline position to sideway one. So calling it even T-44 or T-44-100 was already me stretching it very far. In fact with T-34 I'd even say that engine position was the most important drawback which did nothing tomake tank worse in combat, BUT made sure that it got obsolete very soon. It greatly limited modernisation reserve. Unless you're not afraid to get to 40 or even 45 tons by adding all of that to subpar configuration and then strengthening suspension, tracks and transmission even further to hold it all.
“The M26 and M4 both had a turret ring diameter of 69 inches” ... N I C E
yup
Crossing fingers that'll you'll do a video on the Churchill tanks. A tank that should have been obsolete yet manages to bulldog it's way through the war by being such a robust design including the Crocodile and AVRE.
What about the Black Prince?
@@SilentDeath598 Eh, I guess since it's still a Churchill. But the emphasis is on the sucessful designs like the AVREs.
@@SilentDeath598 imagine if Churchill had bigger turret ring from the beginning and they could have just slap turret with 17 pounder on it?
He'll probably call it trash and simp for the Sherman. Cause y'know, apperantly no other nation has made a good tank in WW2.
@@KWyzel What gives you the notion that he only likes the Sherman series?
“Dumb thought experiment” Nah more like Badass Sherman visualizing
Interesting video idea, can you make something like this for the cold war era soviet tanks like the T-64 and T-72 that were upgraded extensively?
That's what the T-90 literally is to the T-72; it was also referred to as a T-72 variant for a while before the designation change. As for the T-64; look up the T-64 Bulat that the Ukranians made.
@@cnlbenmc what you are referring to is T-72BU which was later renamed to T-90.
yes
That tiger barrel bounce was nutty
Depending on how far into post war we're allowed to go, I feel like the IMI-OTO 60mm would be a better choice for a gun. In a pershing turret for funsies, and to separate it from the real life super shermans.
Eh, the 60mm wouldn't be very good for anything more than AT, since its HE payload would be pretty lackluster. Perhaps the French 105 mounted in M51s would be better for more versatility.
@@bluntcabbage6042 could the 105 shoot darts? I know it was HEAT all day everyday back then.
yes
The Chilean Sherman with the 60mm HVMS would like a word.
It can fire APFSDS ffs
It’s funny as a southerner. My favorite tank is named after the most hated person in the south, William Tecumseh Sherman.
I bet you love the flamethrower variant.
True but just because you are from the south doesn't mean you have to hate him. Or an individual just the same way an American from the North doesn't have to hate Robert. E .LEE. But again it understandable that people wouldn't like either of these generals for various reasons. But its easy for me to make assumption as I live in Canada and well given that it was a civil war that we weren't involved in.
But hey tanks a tank though only tank not to like is the one always breaking down lol. Kinda like german late war panzers they looked powerful and sophisticated. But were prone to more break downs to do part shortages, complexity of the parts combined with general weight put on the suspension. And on top of that they need to have different tracks that were narrow so they could be transported to the front by train.
Also Interleaved road wheels I think was one the dumbest Ideas you could do for a tank. It meant if one wheel was broken you had to take layer of good wheels of the tracks to get at the broken wheel. Also just bad for collecting mud and when the mud freezes in the winter time you can't go anywhere any time soon. It had some pros i guess for a smoother ride maybe and to keep some solid objects like wood out that could jam up the wheels to.
But I didn't always like the Sherman but it proved to be a very versatile combat vehicle ranging from multi role to specialized. Also the simple wheel and bolted on suspension design was more efficient. And if the Sherman's had problems they had a surplus of parts meaning they were quick fixes which gave it the edge of something like Tiger 1 sure it was imposing but it only worked 40 to 50 percent of time and when it did break down it was time consuming and temper mental beast. It also happened to be very fuel hungry to deny fuel for other panzers that would need it to.
I know this just on the ultimate sherman but even the most basic sherman was a good and smart tank design although 1 sherman might not be that threatening like a lone Tiger tank but a column of 10 of them supporting an infantry advance now we start see that its force not underestimate.
I know it was long reply but explaining why I like it to. Sure it may not have infamy like the Tiger and Panther tanks but it was workhorse tank that got the job done when it was needed.
Drew Thatcher I will admit. I respect Sherman for respecting the Confederate Army during his march through Georgia
Sherman was a fucking chad.
The US Army's version of Bomber Harris.
"Turret diameter of 69 inches." *Nice.*
German crews : THIS ISN'T FUNNY YOU GUYS !!!
Everyone : n i c e
Nice.
n i c e
Oh, well that's a point... A great point, but I still want to get the M4A3E2 Shermen "Firefly", he looks very nostalgic heh
You can probably switch out one of the 76mm turrets with the 17 lb gun. The turret was bigger after all.
The general findings on the firefly's gun was that it was vastly less accurate and at ranges it could pen the US guns would pen the same, and then more at further distances where the firefly would just miss
@@JustinTuthill thats why the M4A3 tank is better than the Firefly
@@ThatBROperator That is an absurd question given the many variants of both the M4 and various hulls used by the firefly tanks (All also M4 hulls with removed bow machine guns, the most often used gun on a tank is/ was the machine guns fyi). I already mentioned some items to which you have responded. I think your OP was about a firefly turret on the M4A3E2? The tank was great as it was but using the firefly gun would decrease accuracy and effectiveness. Any short range gains would be minimal and not worth the tradeoff
@@JustinTuthill damn, this comment was a long time ago dude, i didn't knew that the M4A3E2 was named Easy Eight
Looks like you called it about the M4/T26 variant
I would grind for the Chilean Sherman with the 60mm hyper velocity cannon in War Thunder. The main gun is already in the game, so it could make for a great event vehicle* (as long as the grind isn’t a ridiculous process like the Object 279)
This was a really cool video! Learning about putting an M26 turret on an M4 really shocked me actually! The whole video did really.
I really enjoyed this video. Just looking at a tank and saying, hey, what is the absolute best this tank can be, is a very fun and interesting idea. Id honestly love for this to become a series.
"Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should..."
Ferdinand Porsche never heard that.
Do you think for a "is it practical" video you could discuss the implications of drop troopers, such as ODST's, as well as the armor they wear? It seems to be metal p[late, as well as a full face visor.
Their armor is actually a hardsuit, capable of 15 minutes of EVA activity from an internal tank of air. This also makes it fully sealed against biological or toxicological contaminants groundside, for the same 15 minutes. The extra plate on the front is just additional armor made of titanium and ceramic materials. The rest of the suit is also armored, but the area the additional plate is for is y'know, where your vital organs are, and so gets extra love. Plus its the largest area of your body, so hopefully will catch a bullet and prevent your suit from depressurizing when you get shot in space.
@@Abdukctkaz but is launching a man like a bullet to the enemy practical and won’t cause a casualty if they hit a non flat angle? Biggest problem I see is that there is no steering with it which means if you land in the middle of a platoon, tough shit you’re going to face overwhelming odds
Honestly post war, heavily modified Sherman’s are some of the coolest lookin vehicles out there imo.
I'd like to see more videos like this. I encourage you to do more thought experiments with fictional tank variants!
Thing could pen 200mm of armour, this thing coulda been an early MBT killer
I’d love to see one of these about the Panther or Panzer IV. Imagine that Pz IV Schmalturm proposal with whatever other kooky ideas they had.
He'll just trash it, cause its German; cause "lol bad transmission, German tank is poopoo"
@@KWyzel yeah,he does that a lot and then says people are natinalists
I thought this was gonna be a video about the M51 Super Sherman, a tank I would love to see in War Thunder some day
I was about to say “Isn’t that a wee bit too modern” then i remembered... As you can tell, i do have the old guard title in-game lol
@@necmiyigittunal8106 You have a T-34/100, a T-34 with a T54 gun in 6.7.
So it is possible
I would love to see more of videos of you looking how to improve different vehicles, really nice video
Nice video!
Warthunder could combine it all and call it a "Sherman V.2" and send it up against the Panther II- the poster child for ahistorical tanks that combines unrelated experimental and blueprint improvements into one 'super' fantasy tank.
nice job man, well thought out.. i can tell you love the sherman... i have been playing WT since its beta along with WOT for 10 years
I thought this was going to be about either the M-50/51 Israeli Shermans or the M-60 Sherman in Chilean use. Still a cool video so I'm not going to complain.
The ultimate Sherman was the Chilean
M-60 Sherman (M-50 with 60mm HVMS Gun) that was used till 2003.
A Jumbo with a 17-pounder.
Change my mind.
What the ultimate version of a Tiger would be: Transmission that doesn't break
And scrapping the Interleaved road wheel system for something simpler. Whoever thought of it was stupid or secretly a spy for the German resistance. Or is sadist who enjoys the suffering of others.
Yes because having 2 sets of inner and outer road wheels that fit together like gear cogs is a good Idea. Oh look one wheel just broke now I have to take off 3 wheels to get to the broken one. I wonder how the design team came up with that Idea and who approved it in the Tigers design.
Hans The road wheels stopped moving I think the mud froze again on the wheels !
Drew Thatcher
in an ideal scenario, it did provide an advantage in ground pressure and tank stability. However, none of its designers seemed to care about how hard it would be to do on field repairs. Torsion bars took a while to enter US service because they were annoying to replace, but eventually the better stability it provided outweighed the problem of what to do with a snapped bar.
@@Appletank8 yah but i just think the cons of tanks like the tiger out way the pros. As I am no longer a blind wehraboo kid. Yes the sherman wasn't big beast by tank standards but it was a simple workhorse tank that was a war winner. Because it cheap and easily mass producable and had the means to to upgrade when needed.
Haha so funny, wasn't that fUnNy guys?
As a fan of the heavy tank concept I have my own "ultimate Sherman" it's literally just the M4A3E2 with HVSS suspension and the 17 pounder
Lol same, but with the 76 instead.
@@wylandnares8642 either or would be fine tbh
@@CoffeebeanG618 yeah, but I chose the 76 because it had more versatility, and had a filler round
Overall you did a decent job with designing the perfect sherman variant but you forgot one major peice of information. The sherman tank was exported in large numbers to most of America's allies during and after ww2, and some of these nations came up with their own improvements to the sherman. The last major upgrade any sherman got was in the 1960s when Israel upgunned 180 of their Sherman's with a then state of the art French 105mm gun enabling them to destroy any tank in the world at the time. In addition these tanks also had diesel engines instead of gasoline ones which improved their survivability since diesel is less flammable than gas.
You have to make a video "Everything wrong with" about the fast and furious 6 tank and the 1st Transformers movie tank, its called devastator if im not wrong
Number crunching aside if you get someone to put the vehicle into a visual reference....or make a rough sketch of the final product. Keep up the goodwork spooks really cool "what if".
Well, I never feel like wasting my time on your videos, even "dumb" experiments
Sure would be cool to have a WW2-era tank game where you can swap loadouts between similar versions, each part having pro's and con's.
Are we going to talk about him just dominating in the background gameplay
this was interesting i must say... its cool because I didn't realize the M4, t26 and the M-41 and T-49 had the same turret ring diameter... its alwase cool to learn something new thanks spook keep it up mate
I loved the thing that you said at the end, pretty cool video
I too love shermans. Grew up collecting models of the M4 and M1.
If i learned anything the M4 and its variants were good tanks at what they did. They did there job well with what equipment they had AND who needs those upgrades anyway when M4's work well on there own.
Really liked this video and as a fan of the M4 as well it was full of information i didn't know.
I need this Sherman II in war Thunder, right HECKING *NOW!*
Imagen what br this would go to
But Sherman 2 is in war thunder
It'll be a German premium and be at 5.7.
If it's American it'll be 7.7.
British tech tree: am I a joke to you?
Great video. Big fan of these original video ideas.
The Chrysler multi bank engine was put in 5,000 M4A4 Sherman tanks produced between June 1942 and November 1943 which were all sold to the British and Canadian Armies where they served in North Africa, Italy, and Europe. Many of these were upgraded with the 17 pounder gun which had the greatest armour penetration of any tank gun used in WWII. After VE Day, many M4A4s were sold to Chang Kai Chek who used them against the communists in China. After losing the civil war, about thirty of these tanks were evacuated to Taiwan.
Hey Spook I loved the vid, I hope you do more like it. It could be a series where you put together ultimate tanks with all thier best parts. It was a great thought experiment to see what the M4 could have become.
Everybody gangsta when the sherman has 100mm cannon
high speed stabilizer, i well love to see that
The casual nature of how you picked that Tiger apart at 2:15 while he was desperately trying to angle his armour. lol gottem
I like how WT and other realistic tank MMO games made us somewhat professional tank historians.
Yay a new video
good video and you explained why in Gundam nearly every mass production version is weaker than prototype outside it being to damm expensive
Great video! I think it would be cool if you also looked as some of the postwar modifications that people added in shermans (a hole pletera of different engines, the Israeli 105mm or the Chilean 60mm high velocity guns, and more absurd stuff like the Yugoslavians trying to add the gun from the IS-2 into the sherman. It would make for an even crazier sherman, although even less realistic :).
I reserve this phrase for special occasions, but "Gaijin gib". I want them all!
Superb video!
Now this is a content worth watching for _!_
You're going to love Sprocket.
I have my own ideas for a version of the M4 more in keeping with my own tastes. Wider hull and driveshaft running straight along the bottom, which means you can drop the turret basket down lower, which means the turret ring is level with the engine deck making for a considerably lower silhouette (and incidentally less wonky top heavy proportions). Wider tracks as standard even with VVSS. And a high velocity gun, because while you can shoot two high explosive shells if the first didn't finish the job, chances are the second armour piercing shell isn't going to make it through the armour if the first one didn't.
Basically I want a miniature Panther.
Now that I know the M41 and Sherman turret rings are the same diameter, I kind of want to see an M41 with the Sherman 76mm turret. It would probably make for a great light tank in War Thunder, solving the M41's main problem, lackluster damage. And the pen decrease would necessitate a drop in battle rating, perhaps down to 5.3 or 5.7.
Great video, and very fun to imagine the ultimate Sherman! Thank you!!
That m41 Sherman looks sick asf
I love upgrades for old vehicles like what has been done with the shermans, M60s and any number of older soviet tanks.
there are actual models of shermans with 105mm royal ordnance canon called super sherman
i learned a lot about the M4 and its compatibility with other tank parts
You know what would be fun? Mounting a Sheridan turret on a Jumbo Sherman
I'll be honest, i liked this video, it's like what World of Tanks developers think when making a new tank, just strap parts of others on it and make it premium, except in this one at least all of them are actually mount-able and could (maybe) work
"Sees Title"
Me: JUMBO 76 W/ HVSS SUSPENSION
The Israelis have HVSS Sherman with shorten French 105mm that the AMX-30 uses.
Then the Chilean M-60 Sherman with 60mm APFSDS that AUBL 74 HVG uses
You could also go even further down the rabbit hole and consider the modifications that where made by other countries to the Sherman
It was a video about the sherman that is never a waste of time.
IS-7 hull, KV-2 turret, and a long barreled 152mm gun, the ultimate meme.
Would love to see these kind of videos for other tanks
Don't forget, the Sherman also had been given to multiple nations as well
Literally the level of customization I've always wanted in any vehicular combat based game, whether it be to the detriment of the vehicle or not. Any and all components available for use.
Like in the Mechwarrior series?
That's probably about the closest I've ever gotten. Even in the original mechs were pretty customizable although I don't think you could put a heavy torso on a light set of legs or anything like that.
Basically, even if putting a weak engine into a vehicle has a negative effect or downside, as long as it fits I'd like to be able to do it rather than being locked into a limited number of parts according to a tree. Let me have my Frankentank.
Love more series like this, like the Ultimate T-34 or Panther etc~
The tank that manage to outlive it counterparts in military service.
That what i described M4 Sherman.
If you could, I think a video exploring the lack of casemate tank destroyers built by the US would be interesting.
The songs of the Cult Mechanicum have reached far and wide. The Omnissiah approves.
Bruh when you killed that half-track with the AT gun on it it made me so happy. Hate those things with a burning passion.
That tiger was just driving along then you killed the poor thing
You can treat this series as making second video on fixed tanks of GLA in C&C Generals. As realistically their Marauder tanks would be scrapped T-54/55, M48/60, Centurions fitted with salvaged armaments of their replacements while Scorpions would be mixes of AMX-12, M41, PT-76 and so on. With upgrades to both being extra armor akin to T-55 Enigma, north korean MANPAD racks, ATGM on the turret, more machine guns, rocket pod taken from a helicopter, modern radios and commercially available versions of night and thermal vision and optics.
2:15
Classical example of why the Tiger 1 H should not be 5.3 at the same BR as the M4A2(76). Immagine if that player would use his brain instead of his luck to angle his armor that way.
@Hans Blitzkrieg He shouldn't have been blind in the first place.
a game where you could do this to your tanks would be pretty cool i bet
The M60 Sherman is the ultimate Sherman.
Loved this video, it could be a good idea for a new series.
would love to see more of this type of video's, it is really interesting when you think about it
Ultimate M4 Sherman: Coming soon to Italian + Chinese Ground Forces!
All hail the sherman
*dances around destroyed tiger sacrifice*
You should do more if these "ultimate vehicles" it's interesting to see all the possibilities
Always a pleasure to see the post notification
If the Sherman designers gave into their worst desires for more armor and a bigger gun, it would literally just be a Panther.
“So what was the point in all this? I really have no clue” same.
"Tanks don't usually survice a Hit anyway"
*laughs in A3E2*