Small Parts Storage 5 Different Ways & We Review The WeCreat Vision Laser Engraver
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- Опубликовано: 25 фев 2024
- I have an empty cabinet that we are going to put 12 low profile drawers with a bunch of different organizing systems inside to see what works the best! We will be using the CNC machine, 3D Printer, store bought option and the laser engraver to make different solutions. I was provided the WeCreate laser engraver so I used that on this build and give my review of this unit at the end of the video!
We Creat Vision
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Files from the video
Gridfinity 3d printing system - gridfinity.xyz
Maker Case Laser Boxes - en.makercase.com
Screw Guage - www.thingiverse.com/thing:459...
Bolt Sorter - www.thingiverse.com/thing:534...
Nut & Bolt Gauge - amzn.to/3IdO2yn
- Time and cost per method -
CNC sort tray - $12 ~1hr
3D Print Gridfinity - $20-30 per shelf (big cups use less filament than tons of small cups) print time around 30hrs
Amazon trays - $7-9 per shelf - no time
Laser boxes - $12-14 per shelf - 2.5hr Cutting - 2-3min per box assembly 1.5-2hrs assembly per shelf
Laser Trays - $8-9 per shelf - 30min cut time per shelf and 10min assembly
Walmart Eraser cases - $21.50 per shelf - no time
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This is a very good video! You show a number of different options and show how you can mix and match a bit to meet your needs. And I like the fact you got the kids involved. So I will be watching more videos to learn more.
Thanks appreciate it!
What a great video Justin so many great ideas. Keep up the great work. Thanks to your boys for helping you . Thanks for sharing
Thanks, Jim! Yeah, those boys come in handy!
Great tips for organizing!
Glad it was helpful!
This was an incredible video. Thanks!!!
Oh wow thanks! Glad you liked it!
I just finished doing our kitchen utensil drawer in Gridfinity system organizers. It came out awesome !!!
Oooo that’s a very cool use!
Looks great!
Thanks!
I've been using the same laser for a couple of months now. The noise you heard typically means that it isn't level (perhaps one of the stepper motors went too far or you had it on a surface that wasn't level at some point). Often, that noise is the machine correcting that. In severe cases where it can't, you can manually level it by turning the threaded rods in the corners.
Ah good to know. Have you expierenced the same with the camera as you move to the corners? That’s the main concern I have with the unit.
@@BitnerBuilt Yes. About the only solution is to create a jig/template to hold your work pieces at known points so that you are centered every time and aren't relying on the camera. Pretty much like you would do with a laser that doesn't have a camera.
@@chadgarner230yea that’s disappointing. I stressed about talking about that in the video, as I don’t want to point out something like that if it’s just my machine. Usually, I don’t watch other peoples reviews but I went to watch a bunch to make sure that it wasn’t just me. I have the xtool P2 it uses two cameras, the main cameras shoots the entire bed and has the same issue but then it has a up close camera that’s on the actual laserhead that will move out and do a detailed photo of a specific area so you can check first to make sure that your incredibly precise. I think we create needs to implement something like that if they can’t figure out a correction in the software to compensate for the lens warp.
Love organizing ideas. Thanks so much!
To get your box joints to snap together, adjust for the kerf in the download screen…the boys will be a little less crazy on the future runs 😁.
Haha yea I did alter a little on each run to get them a bit more fermed up towards the end
Such a good video, I found it very interesting and now I have subscribed !
Really nice to see your shelfs and what you have done, nice simple plywood draws.
I have 3d printed 100's of boxes and now I'm laser cutting just as many and found this video intresting too her you thoughts.
Oh awesome thanks very much!
Hey Justin
I also blame the machine or dog
when it was me
Haha very funny
😂
Great video and a wonderful topic that seems to plague us all. I am going to try some your gridfinity boxes and see how it goes.
Cool yea I’m actually printing more of them now (threw out the Amazon trays 😂)
Cardboard is the way to go. I've made lots of cardboard boxes for all sorts of boxes. Haven't had any fail yet. I like cheap. Being retired, time in making isn't a big issue. Thanks for the ideas.
Oh that’s great! Glad to know cardboards working for you!
A great storage system.
Thanks!
could you add a table (either in comments or description) that shows the per-drawer cost of each system. It sounds as if gridfinity ended up being your preferred option.
One think to check into for gridfinity is that there are some boxes designed to print in vase mode, which can be quite a bit faster to print.
Sure, yea it gave me the most versatile storage options and the least amount of work to accomplish, just hit print. Took days to print it all but was worth it. Good suggestion on the basement. I’ll have to take a look.
A lot of the vase mode bins fail when printing and they can only print one at a time which takes forever if you're making a lot. I made a comment above on the ones I've found that work fantastic, print fast and are economical.
Nice job showcasing the different kinds of hardware storage. For me, 3d printed bins were the way to go. Nothing off the shelf really suited my needs and I just got a new bambu 3d printer to replace my old ender 3 pro, so a bit of work in onshape and I can print the same basic design of whatever size I need.
Yea the 3d is definitely the nicest, I’m not printing a few more gridfinity shelves to replace those Amazon trays. (Unfortunately my bambu a1 was recalled…. So down to one workhorse)
@@BitnerBuilt Yeah, I saw that about the A1 recall. That was the printer I wanted too, since I only print in PLA and PETG. So for now, I bought an A1 Mini. I'll grab the full size A1 after the recall is sorted out. This thing is a dream to print with compared to my old ender 3 pro.
Great job as always. Get excited each time I see a notification from your channel pop up on my screen. This was certainly a great use of space and appreciate showing different techniques. Btw which one was your favorite.
Also in terms of the laser. If for some reason you are deciding not to keep it and feeling generous towards a really faithful viewer , I am a long time hobbyist and am really interested in adding a laser to my shop ;) (wink,wink) lol
Thanks! Haha I will keep that in mind 😅 I would say the gridfinity wins for me. It takes a long time to make, little pricey but very little effort on my part. Once the whole thing made if you occasionally have to print a holder or two here in there that’s really quick and I just love how completely jampacked and perfectly organized I can make it. In a close second is the Laser trays as they come out to almost be the cheapest option they’re fairly quick to make.
Perfect for the OCD in all of us🎉
Oh yea!
Good stuff Justin, always enjoy your videos. What was the brand of the PLA you used?
Here’s the link it’s the elegoo $13 a spool and I have gone though tons of them, no issues on my ankermake and Bambu amzn.to/3OXCjIa
Very nice. Love options. For the wood boxes, if you want an easier glue set up you could use CA glue and activator to make it faster. Or you could use the tab connections like A Glimpse Inside uses so there is just friction fit that is tight and doesn't need glue.
Thanks for the great ideas! I started with CA, glue and activator, but switched off it real quick, because of how much I was using, that stuffs expensive! I thought about the tab method, but then I wouldn’t be able to get the boxes as close together. It creates a lot of wasted space and since we were going for efficient use of storage as possible I went with the more laborious option 😂 but good idea, it might work better for some other peoples solution!
@@BitnerBuilt ah gotcha, indeed. I only do a few glue points on mine (top bottom sometimes a middle), but I've never made them for tiny tiny stuff before so maybe best to do all or at least most lower tabs. I can see how that would use tons of glue. I have actually used VHB tape before on ones I didn't want to be permanently stuck and I was worried even minimal glue would pull the wood tabs apart when breaking down. However cutting all the little, tiny strips of VHB tape was sooooo annoying and took a fair amount of time. Lucky I was just doing it on a few bigger pieces and used a bunch because they all hold a lot of weight. Would be less needed for the tiny boxes but the tabs would be much smaller and suck more lol. Anyway, I think the drawers look great and I wish mine were this organized. Gonna get a 3d printer this year and fix me up some gridfinity organization for my small parts :)
@@The_Bearded_Lady ah yea the gridfinity stuff is great, really love my 3d printers now. Highly recorded the ankermake M5c as a first printer for anyone, I have many now but that’s the easiest and the one I trust when I need it perfect, even over my Bambu lab etc.
@@BitnerBuilt I would like to get the Anker, but I am able to get either the Creality Ender 3 S1 or V2 for a new customer deal at a local electronics shop. Just for spending $150 or $100 depending on which. I'm disabled and my finances are really tight so any little bit helps. And people say they are still pretty good printers too. So hopefully they will last me a long while til I can afford something better *crosses fingers*
@@The_Bearded_Lady sure those are the test of time printers, so you should be fine, they are a bit more “technical” but I’m sure you will do fine with them 👍
Hey, check out the stackable gridfinity bins.
Ooo cool, love a ton of the gridfinity stuff
@@BitnerBuilt thought that might solve your issue of the 1x1 bins being too big for small numbers of small parts.
You didn’t mention the drawer slides employed. Do you have a budget-friendly selection that you recommend?
Oh sorry I was focusing just more in the organizational aspect. Yeah drawer slides are a tough one because it can make a project price balloon, I spent $200 on slides for this video. You can always just omit the slides and do a elongated shelf bottom that rides on scrap wood (wax it for more glide) my budget likes making those, but I always like the smooth glide drawer slides give me. I have used OCG slides a few times and I don’t see a difference from the big box ones here’s a link (only a little cheaper however) amzn.to/3TcslVG
I'm interested in the eraser cases. Where did you get those?
Walmart in the school supplies isle
Thank you, always learn and enjoy. I am so on the fence about a diode laser. I do like the vision one as described, had not heard the camera lens issue. Good to know. Stay safe.
@@dtork47 Here it is they are $1 right now but at school time they discount them to $0.50 - I have a good number of videos on lasers, I would take a look at my enclosed vs open video. www.walmart.com/ip/Pen-Gear-Plastic-Storage-Box-Desktop-Organizer-Clear/259890837?athbdg=L1102&from=/search&wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222278377457325_160805772391_20959796377&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&veh=sem_LIA&adid=22222222238377457325_160805772391_20959796377&veh=sem&vtcWeb=ewh9IWXlfaa-VqkwIpxqUc&expiryTime=1708992804089&c=mWebSmartBanner
I have a lot of the HDX storage cases and it always bothered me that the dividers would come up a little bit and small parts would go underneath them. I also hated that I was digging into the little spaces to get any screws or whatever out. I printed boxes to go into the bins that were removable so I could take it out and over to wherever I was working. Have you got a link to the old plastic boxes that you were replacing? - Chris
Hey Chris, yeah, I replaced nine of the husky, HDX style cases in addition to 100 of those pencil box, is that what you’re referring to the clear plastic ones? Those are from the school supplies aisle at Walmart I’ll look to see if I can find them online link when I get home.
I would be interested in if you can find the numbers for those old Walmart pencil cases that you used I have a drawer that these would be perfect for
Here it is they are $1 right now but at school time they discount them to $0.50 www.walmart.com/ip/Pen-Gear-Plastic-Storage-Box-Desktop-Organizer-Clear/259890837?athbdg=L1102&from=/search&wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222278377457325_160805772391_20959796377&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&veh=sem_LIA&adid=22222222238377457325_160805772391_20959796377&veh=sem&vtcWeb=ewh9IWXlfaa-VqkwIpxqUc&expiryTime=1708992804089&c=mWebSmartBanner
Here it is they are $1 right now but at school time they discount them to $0.50 www.walmart.com/ip/Pen-Gear-Plastic-Storage-Box-Desktop-Organizer-Clear/259890837?athbdg=L1102&from=/search&wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222278377457325_160805772391_20959796377&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&veh=sem_LIA&adid=22222222238377457325_160805772391_20959796377&veh=sem&vtcWeb=ewh9IWXlfaa-VqkwIpxqUc&expiryTime=1708992804089&c=mWebSmartBanner
I don't think there's ever one perfect system for everything. Unfortunately too many variables for every item. As you said laser cutting has a lot of assembly time, 3D printing has a lot of printing time. Plus the fact not everyone has these machines and they're quite costly to initially purchase plus ongoing materials. Store bought solutions can also be costly and generally waste space (unless you build your drawers to their dimensions).
Probably the least costly solution I've found is buying divider cases for fasteners etc. You can find some cheap ones at big box stores that are reasonable (just don't drop them LOL). And they're not too bad on waisted space.
For electronics, just making large drawers with 3mm strip dividers to various widths. They're quick to make and populate. You can also add those small and cheap 10 divider boxes for small components like caps, transistors and LEDs to again save on space. They're not so great for resistors and diodes as they take up a lot of space.
Sure it's not perfect but as I said, I don't think there ever is a perfect solution for everything when it's time vs money.
All cool ideas! Yea that’s why I tried to show several options, had I just done it all 3d printed for example would have only appealed to a small few 👍