The gentleman from the CIA is a real CIA operative. Ducking questions and still giving the impression that he is disclosing the whole truth while in fact saying nothing. Congrats.
Don't Forget Joe also Offered himself up to the CIA to become a SHILL inorder to learn what they know about E.Ts I really liked Joe till he started doing that ND then he started getting more publicity for many controversial topics of discussion but I can never let that go because it's really hard to figure out if he did become a SHILL for the CIA to be used for Psyop missions or Not?
My father was tested on during vietnam. He and his buddies were told they could sign up for “ weapons testing” to get some time out of the jungle and so he did it. They ended up locking them in a gym for a week didnt allow them to sleep and gave them glasses of water that were dosed with “ BZ (unidentified chemical) LSD and a third unnamed unidentified chemical.” After dosing they were given tasks to complete and radar screens to look at and tested interrogation techniques on them. My father years later sent a foi request to try to find out what the other two chemicals were because of cancer and other things he thinks came from that or the agent orange and the govt sent a letter back saying basically “ when u signed up for the weapons test you signed a document stating you would never request this information.” Its insane that this shit is real
The chemicals given were probably LSD to spark thought and the other chemicals were inhibitors of memory, like a chemical lobotomy so that all that is remembered is what they were told while on the LSD which is the basis of mk ultra mental programming
What they Did to Your Father is absolutely Repugnant !! It's Violation of the Nuremberg Code just like forced Vaccinations !! Agent Orange was eventually exposed .. Just like PTSD .. These so called world leaders who Are in Violation of the Nuremberg Code ..
A world-class lesson on how to talk about a very sensitive subject, for over 20 minutes and not say anything secret. Once a spy always a spy. Class act.
Lol 😂 something you grow in family where you learn to be like this for life or forever rolling or plotting lol or playing life game or something else lol lord lord bless lord lord never trust no one but your Doberman pincher love love Doberman pincher love you love love y’all love you love love you daddy love love y’all love love you 😍 😅🎉😂❤😢😅❤😅❤
And an fyi most CIA agents get killed for saying any truth, you think there wasn’t a cia group watching this show waiting for one thing to be said then boom cut the stream and power to joes building wait for Mike to leave the building and once he is in his car make him disappear
I wrote a paper on the MK-ULTRA project. All of what he is saying is publicly available, and it's not that hard to find. So maybe he's trying to inform the lay man, but he has provided nothing more than publicly available information. He's really just dancing around/trying to remember what's publicly available and what's not.
I mean they have a gun with dissolving bullets that makes it look like you have a heart attack if i was a glow i would be towing that line like a tightrope unicyclist too
That’s probably because he doesn’t know anything else that’s not public knowledge. Just because he worked for this govt agency, does not mean he’s aware of all their secrets. That’s a stupid assumption.
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@Brad Fuller I wonder if people get training to be able to speak that much while saying nothing, or if that's a skill that some people just naturally have, that makes them suitable for government work.
@@lockandreload No, I'm sure they do, along with training people how to resist questioning and all that other stuff. More broadly, I'm wondering where the skill itself comes from. Like has this guy always been able to talk like this to one degree or another, or did he learn all of it while working for the CIA? I asked it that way because my question goes beyond just the CIA, and covers any type of career politician as well.
@@djtekitizi the problem is that he only talks about things you can freely find on the internet and most of it is also incorrect which I believe he is doing on purpose. Put that all together anf it makes this interview full of shit.
Honestly, his body language and his stuttering and running and ahhing comes off more like he's uncomfortable talking about this stuff. When he's talking about subjects he's passionate and well informed, he doesn't do that. If I had to guess, I'd say he just doesn't really know much. I mean, think about it. If he was as well practiced at lying, would he be showing signs of discomfort? I wouldn't be surprised if he was way lower on the totem poll then people think.
@@BooYaa253deffinitely. it honestly makes me doubt conspiracies. I mean either you gotta do mental gymnastics to make sense of the "he's a misinformant" theory, which at that point is just confirmation bias, or just treat him the way he presents himself, as just a fairly normal dude who worked for a government organisation. Not all that crazy when you think about it like that.
Agreed. There is no way that the CIA could let someone be an "ex". Just like the nuclear scientists, they would, at the least, be dropped in on, surveiled, interrogated, threatened, coerced, etc. or just kept on the payroll and used for controlled opposition.
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Man it seems like some people were watching a different video. The guy explains the cold war context, how it was funded through cutouts, talks about the lack of understanding of psychoactive drugs at the time, and says after the program was over almost all the files were destroyed. That seems like it would be the limit of his knowledge of a code word classified program that ended when he was 3 y/o. I mean what are you guys expecting? Him to admit he's a trained assassin through the art of hypnosis and LSD? This guy was probably a case officer out of an embassy who played detective in a foreign country. I doubt he would be on JRE if he was in a black ops unit or some other code worded program.
@@JohnDoe69986 I love all the knowledge and facts these detectives have on social media platforms so they can accuse people of being shills liars operatives and distractions
Does anyone else find it difficult to take what a "former" CIA Agent says seriously? These guys are the best manipulators in the world, EVERYTHING is a con with them. I feel like I'm being mind-fucked every time I hear one speak!
All of these interviews with them are the same. They are pro at talking for hours and saying nothing new or that isn't already public knowledge. It's like they all took a class on talking in circles. Lol
@@dangbro2589 , actually it's not really, as long as you're not cursing the Lord or using his name in vain. Besides, you can't be all THAT worried about it if you're watching Rogan's podcasts. That guy curses like a drunken sailor!
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Remember guys; projects don't end - they become new projects based on what was learned in the first MK-Ultra as a program finished - the activity continues to this day
Geral sosbee FBI Whistleblower Richard lighthouse NASA whistleblower Ted gunderson FBI whistleblower All countries have targeted individuals being experimented and tested with direct energy weapons like voice of god weapon and dream manipulation technology
Some are born into the program some were protestors, direct energy weapons can be done remotely. Existed since the 50s that’s where the tinfoil “joke” came from it’s recently being recognized as Havana Syndrome
I always say the same thing about Project Stargate. They've just switched the topic to astral projection and remote viewing. The Cold War never ended; it's just gotten advanced enough to where most people don't even see it.
It WAS used against Americans by the USSR. In the last days of WWII America ended up with most of the technical documents while the USSR got most of the psy-ops documents including effective brain washing techniques and were using them on political opponents and POW's alike. The CIA was trying to bring that gap by researching from the ground up got cleared to do it by any means necessary. I cant stress enough how heinous their actions were but understand how crazy the situation was. Russia brain wash a fucking arch bishop and put him on national radio in a full cathedral and for him to admit to murdering babies and leading a treasonous, anti-communism terrorist organization like it was nothing just to push out the church and solidify their power base like any other tyrannical government. Unlike other tyrants, they had a massive nuclear arsenal and one of the largest populations on earth. "The Men Who Stare at Goats" looks into the far more ethical army version of the MK Ultra program and how that evolved into the horrible privatized armies of today.
@@notchomomma239 Imagine believing the USSR brainwashing propaganda LOL. What a dummy you are. Russia got us to attack our own people based on nothing but speculation.
@@cezerelecrucio9717 is called "history." When you don't believe something, some people will Google it just to verify they're not about to post a dumb comment while others will blurt out whatever comes to mind no matter how dumb it is... did you look before you leaped? Of course you didn't, that would require effort. One last concept tho, the USSR doesn't exist anymore so I'm talk about history, not current events. Prussia didn't kill your dog anymore than Rome killed your cousin.
My father was a victim of the MkUltra program. He was a helicopter pilot in the US Army who was admitted to a VA hospital after falling off the wing of an airplane while refuelling it... supposedly... That was not his job and he would have had no business performing such. After 18 months in hospital he came out a completely different person. He had been transformed into the perfect soldier, gun-ho and completely willing to throw himself into whatever suicidal task was presented to him, even after leaving his official military position, but a totally dysfunctional and violent alcoholic on civy street. He spent the 60s and 70s in Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Malawi, Rhodesia, Mozambique, and virtually every other 3rd world hellscape imaginable, flying choppers as a much sought after mercenary known in relevant circles as "The Maintenance Man". I never knew him. He was never around. He met his end in 1985, when while working as a carpenter, he fell off the scaffolding after suffering a heart attack... alone... with nobody to call 911 or take him to the emergency room... supposedly... There are no witnesses to confirm or deny the official record.
Sorry for your situation and how these incidents strongly affected your fathers ability to be a soldier as opposed to a father. My thoughts are with you my G❤️
Yeah that was definitely no accident. Tying up loose ends and liabilities so there’s no witnesses or proof and they claim plausible deniability smh evil
Manson was a pimp prior to his incarceration. It’s not unreasonable to assume that he learned mind control through some CIA experiment and was able to take his pimp game to a whole new level.
He's only allowed to talk about what it is already public knowledge. There's also confidential information that even most CIA agents aren't allowed to know. If he knew something that was classified, it would be really stupid for him to talk about it on the biggest podcast in the world. Big ups to Mike Baker for having to courage to come on the show, I'd be worried about letting something slip that would cause my house to have a mysterious gas leak.
Cia ops are compartmentalized. He wasn't on these ops, so he don't know shit about them. But he marginalized and deflects as some sort of denial that these abuses could've ever happenned. He's a Cia pr hack.
There is no need to destroy assets when they can just be institutionalized as schizophrenic or dismissed as part of the conspiracy theorist smokescreen.
Everyone always talks about the drug side of MKU but nobody talks about the other half of MKU that is still classified to this very day that dealt with Radio Frequencies.
I like his tactic. Only give opinions on the framework Joe comes up with. Explain nothing in fear of divulging beyond what’s known publicly. Impressive, but obviously lying/omitting facts.
You know to get a security clearance you need to basically sign a document that says that you will go to prison if you divulge any classified information. The higher the clearance the higher the punishment. Baker had at least an SCI clearance, or even higher, so he rightfully treads on careful grounds. Otherwise, he'd get Ed Snowden-ed.
Why would he know? Records were destroyed before his time. 49 separate projects where literally only two individuals knew the whole picture, are dead, and destroyed all evidence.
@@elikronen4024 Exactly. He both probably legitimately knows almost nothing about it (I'd bet the CIA is just as secretive to their employees as they are to the public; if you have no need to know, they tell you nothing), and also is trying to be careful to not potentially say anything that could possibly be non-public.
He never mentions that they were also using the hookers & LSD to set people up for blackmailing. I know someone that was involved, unwillingly. This 'retired' CIA dude is a joke.
@TraumaFree TV I agree on all stated. I know some of the people you mention, but you just gave me some new names. Thanks. Noted and I'll be looking into them. I found the daughter to the madam online. She's sharing all kinds of first hand information, plenty of documentation too, photos, etc. I personally think Zuckerberg, Musk and some others have been through a MKUltra type program. Do you know about the Sabbatean-Frankists?
I love how quickly everyone caught on to the truth and straight up called this guy out lmao 🤣 it’s hilarious and also awesome to see everyone completely aware of the truth
Ikr, always in the back of your mind you thinkin' what kind of shady or even fucked up shit he's done workin' for the CIA. Messed up man, but hey one or the other you chose that path. Unfair or not.
@Տςհաҽҽժվ ᏖᎧᎴᎴ like what? 😂 it’s human nature. We will replace them and then fear will cause us to create another CIA . You gotta oppress the poor and undesirables and do dirt to spy on your enemies .
Good, but bad. As citizens, we cant fix problems that we dont know exist yet. All we know is the mainstream narrative is a lie. But what's real? Who knows. So then wtf are we gonna fix.
Dawg, you still being manipulated by someone. You gonna read or ingest information somewhere and your brain will form opinions based on that information. If they can infiltrate that information then they can influence your opinions, and nobody really knows too much about their operations or what they have their hands in.
@@Topagendadolla ya know, as much as I want to disagree and say it’s wrong it is the truth. Just wish there was maybe a little bit more moral oversight and essential “reigning in of the dogs” to stop the unknowing population being effected you know? Any alphabet boi/agency is going to do something bad whether they planned it or not, but I do believe some of these people need to be held for their actions
@@evanblessyotrap Yeah, Rogan is a fed. I mean they had the first neurolink patient go on there, trying to desensitize to what they are going to force on people and they did say many times that they'd force "behavioral changes" on the masses, they're all in on it, everything connects to black rock, black rock is CIA, black rock even owns Tesla, the CIA runs neurolink, they run everything really, including this app, which is built on to most people's phones.
For starters there is no such thing as ‘former’ CIA. Secondly you shouldn’t let the gatekeepers sell you locks. Listening to a CIA man talk about CIA atrocities is like asking the guards at world war concentration camp to describe conditions there.
@Avery Breaux you guys are nuts... Gatekeeping: the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something. If "they" wanted to gate keep Rogan wouldn't have a podcast. He wouldn't ask open ended questions. He wouldn't silently listen while the guest rambles on. He wouldn't invite individuals will sensitive clearances and experiences (ie. Bob Lazar) to come speak about the topics we're all curious about. Because... that's the exact opposite of "limiting access" to these things. No. Instead he would ONLY entertain us with less informational and more opinionated podcasts (talk about politics, entertainment, technology, global warming, etc). Not the actions of a gatekeeper.
Yeah, I wonder if he even read the book. The book had a few shortcomings, but a lot of stuff that really makes you question the real motives. He didn't even talk about Jolly West and David West, Completely jumped over the Haight Ashbury clinic. Joe should've brought of Reeve Witson.
100% I was literally about to say - Gotta love it when Joe, possible CIA operative, Rogan brings Shills on to push an agenda saying that our gov. intelligence agencies were just a couple of goofy creepy dudes who liked to jerk off while watching people fuck prostitutes on lsd... and definitely NOT committing horrible atrocities on adults and children using extreme torture & drug use to see how they could break the human psyche into multiple pieces for mind controls purposes & military intelligence.... It definitely wasn’t that at all... 😒😒😒
This stuff does absolutely happen. I've seen similar things, not quite on this level, happen in my home town. Being in the dope game you see a lot of things that others dont
@@crichey56 I have definitely been know to be a user. However I've also seen first hand how the feds and city police work while investigating the dope game and what happens when the FBI comes to town when somebody in the game dies.
I mean think about it: If something is seen as crazy, out there, or ridiculous, psychologically most people won't want to associate with it for fear of looking more ridiculous than is the social norm. Nobody wants to be ostracized
@@Gouyamusic 95% of the comments have their fat asses sticking out the top of the rabbit hole. Idiots calling real skeptics idiots and saying “this guy is lying about everything, vaccines yada yada, brainwashing yada yada, something something JEWWWWSSSS, don’t read books!!!” It’s just sad.
I’ve met a few select individuals in my lifetime who are familiar with and practice the art of saying everything while saying nothing . . . .none however have reached this man’s level. Peak bs-ing. 👌🏼
An intelligent man, obviously intentionally holding back known information, great at playing the verbal shell game. Look into his eyes, he becomes uncomfortable when being dishonest.
Notice that he did not even get into Neural Linguistic Programming. A lot of people were mind-fucked because that aspect of NLP can alter your perception of reality. Many believe there are those in positions of authority in government who are part of a cabal using NLP programmed subjects for a variety of disgraceful acts.
He is slow slick with answers. Much respect, he gets a direct question but side steps it and answers another question without taking a breath, an Joe may or may not notice. Love this.
"body language experts" have been thoroughly debunked by real science, and you still pay for FBI training in it... Its literally just some dude giving an opinion... lmfao
B T paid agent, thats why they banned him on everything. Thats why he exposes them every change he gets. This know more news channel that you told me about in another comment supports him. So wtf are you even talking about. Come with some facts on what Icke is wrong about then.
B T he’s not with him, thats why he has him on as a guest and supports his book heavily. I don’t believe in Q and certainly am not looking for trump to save me. We can only save ourself by reaching a higher consciousness from within.
MKULTRA programming is more prevalent than ever. They just changed the name (Project Monarch). It was not disbanded and countless Americans and many celebrities have been subjected to it. It's imagery can be seen throughout movies, TV and music videos which are intended to trigger programming.
Yeah they figured out how to shape and control society without chemicals, kinda genius. Most in the USA are too busy fighting left vs right to realise its them vs the govt.
Yeah I heard the M in MK was for monarch also reference to the butterfly because it has some innate directional instinct to fly to the same place annually. So I guess they figure if people have all seen the same "programming" they will all respond the same also? Some nostalgia perhaps? Obviously some people are more susceptible to suggestion than others though.
I dunno I think they got a lot of success with mind control with television and phones. Go on a bus, train, or walk downtown the street and see how many people and controlled by their phones
How do you think he feels about the quote from William Casey, CIA Director (1981-1987) saying; “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” 😉👁
I think David Letterman is much better. When there's bullshit, he pulls the shit out. Watch the The Trump interviews and the Bill Riley ones. However, Joe Rogan lets his guest (s) talk and is nice to his guests.
yeah if he had this guy on once or twice it would be one thing but he has this "former" CIA guy on a lot, even though the guy does everything he can to not answer questions directly.
@Yes Moe jogan is bought, packaged pretty for that 18-35 demo, who think they are learning truth but we can see the hand slid up his back moving his lips. ## ask eddi bravo. "Look into it" love . E. B!
Tom O'Neil collected the information over a 20 year period, but I think it was "Dan Pieperbring ( co-author), who pulled it all together and put it into a coherent," book format. I not only read the book, I annotated it.
There is no good and evil, only negative and positive like you cart btry. Its just me and you pal, not mythological beings from the Bible of pages of marvel Dc and manga. Its jus is bro, we are the ones doing it. Aint no damn UFOs. More like, folks are to stupid to know what their own gov is doin.
In Europe we call these methods fascist. Very scary to realize that the ie USA and Canada condone these concentration camp crimes, And refine them all the time. On a grand scale. And no repercussions. How dare you people to raise a family/have children in such environment?
MK Ultra is literally one of the reasons why I don’t trust our government. I don’t know if this video mentions it but a lot of these projects get renamed and they do it again even after being shut down.
"CIA Dude is definitely still CIA and definitely actively framing public opinion through his friendship with Joe" is the main thing this clip screams glaringly at everyone. 😂👌
@@letten2596 yeah, Joe's really big about Non-censorship to "everyone". It's one of those "tell us how you really feel" things... if we just censor everything we don't like then we'll never know. Knowledge is the greatest gift.
Everytime he says “ I’m sure everyone knows this but for those that don’t” take a shot 😂 this guy really gave no information or even a single cool story while talking non stop about nothing at all
He definitely read up on what was publicly available before talking on the show here lol And what's more likely is that while he was in the CIA he wasn't very aware of all this stuff going on and is just using his ex CIA employment to get legitimacy so he can talk shit and make some money. Most CIA projects are all kept separate to avoid leaks and most employees don't know what the others are doing in their projects or if there even IS a project He never brought anything new to the table he just talked about stuff you can find yourself online
ignore the negative ass holes in the replies here. People are definitely waking up. It's pretty clear...except to the nihhilstic arrogance that plays itself across the ramparts of time...this version being internet trolls.
Vicodyn it doesn’t have anything to do with intellect. The corruption and sheer evil going on in the world is starting to become widespread knowledge. People are finally questioning the government’s bcuz the information of when they were less than trust worthy is out there.
Pilau BEAN Flicker it’s not remotely the same thing. In my eyes it is more about questioning the authorities and the mainstream media which we are right to do. If you have full trust in those higher powers you need to spend some time researching...
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He is so worried to say anything. All his pauses of consideration really has all the papers he signed worried him . Or maybe he fears what happened to other loud mouths.
Or maybe he doesn’t actually know any secrets. It’s not as if he was involved in MK-ULTRA or anything else that’s so fascinating to the public. If he feared anything about what he knows, I doubt he would even come on here. Or do his own podcast, which he does all the time. Dude doesn’t know anything we don’t.
Or he's disinformation trying to recollect what's in the public sphere of knowledge. Wouldn't want to accidentally leak REAL classified info. Gullible.
Or he takes his job very seriously. The man took an oath, and as he himself put it, 'I take my oaths very seriously, i promised to keep my yap shut about anything not marked as declassified and thats what im going to do'. It is a form of integrity. You may not approve of this particular form of integrity bit it IS a form of integrity
I dunno. There was a study done in Russia years ago (by a random college student) that was fun and harmless. Dude just randomly started waiting "in line", and tons or random people joined the que. Makes me laugh whenever I think of it.
Got a video with this guy proving smokeless gun powder makes a puff of smoke in a grassy knoll field test. What was the question on Kennedy? and how does he react?
@xannyphantom Dulles, who was a Wall Street lawyer before heading the CIA and his brother John Foster was Eisenhower's Sec of State. So what does Mike seem to think about Dulles being picked by LBJ to be on the WC? Only a coincidence?
The gentleman from the CIA is a real CIA operative. Ducking questions and still giving the impression that he is disclosing the whole truth while in fact saying nothing. Congrats.
I dont know why Joe invites that guy onto his show, its like he's making crap up to make the CIA look like a loving organization.
It's an art
Don't Forget Joe also Offered himself up to the CIA to become a SHILL inorder to learn what they know about E.Ts I really liked Joe till he started doing that ND then he started getting more publicity for many controversial topics of discussion but I can never let that go because it's really hard to figure out if he did become a SHILL for the CIA to be used for Psyop missions or Not?
@@samhema620 after that most of the ET episodes stopped
@@CM-qi1xs cause their not aliens
No such thing as “former” CIA agent.
Why that ain't the truth.
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Sure there is. Only thing is that you have to die to become one
Facts, I always laugh when a "former" intelligence officer is treated like an honest human being
That's so obvious when hearing him answer questions
My father was tested on during vietnam. He and his buddies were told they could sign up for “ weapons testing” to get some time out of the jungle and so he did it. They ended up locking them in a gym for a week didnt allow them to sleep and gave them glasses of water that were dosed with “ BZ (unidentified chemical) LSD and a third unnamed unidentified chemical.” After dosing they were given tasks to complete and radar screens to look at and tested interrogation techniques on them. My father years later sent a foi request to try to find out what the other two chemicals were because of cancer and other things he thinks came from that or the agent orange and the govt sent a letter back saying basically “ when u signed up for the weapons test you signed a document stating you would never request this information.” Its insane that this shit is real
Ps those hookers obviously got disappeared. Thats why they use throwaway people. Every single time.
The chemicals given were probably LSD to spark thought and the other chemicals were inhibitors of memory, like a chemical lobotomy so that all that is remembered is what they were told while on the LSD which is the basis of mk ultra mental programming
Yeah bro I 100% believe u
Probably shouldn't have went to another country to burn down villages then I guess.
What they Did to Your Father is absolutely Repugnant !!
It's Violation of the Nuremberg Code just like forced Vaccinations !! Agent Orange was eventually exposed .. Just like PTSD .. These so called world leaders who Are in Violation of the Nuremberg Code ..
I've met used car salesmen that were more straightforward and honest.
This is what a man too terrified to say anything looks like.
Doubt you have ever afforded to buy a car from a salesman
Yes, and interesting how they're rationalizing the US government drugging people against their will
Speaking articulately without saying anything is an art
I agree he's not saying anything but does he have a responsibility to? Can he not just be one of Joe's podcast buds who happens to be "ex" CIA?
bingo! you said it
And Obongo is the massa of it!!!
Politicians disease !
i agree
A world-class lesson on how to talk about a very sensitive subject, for over 20 minutes and not say anything secret. Once a spy always a spy. Class act.
Fluffy questions get Fluffy answers, makes you think what Joe's intentions are
Not really
Lol 😂 something you grow in family where you learn to be like this for life or forever rolling or plotting lol or playing life game or something else lol lord lord bless lord lord never trust no one but your Doberman pincher love love Doberman pincher love you love love y’all love you love love you daddy love love y’all love love you 😍 😅🎉😂❤😢😅❤😅❤
And an fyi most CIA agents get killed for saying any truth, you think there wasn’t a cia group watching this show waiting for one thing to be said then boom cut the stream and power to joes building wait for Mike to leave the building and once he is in his car make him disappear
Not say anything about anything.
What a circle talker.
Lots of body language inflection drama.
Total spook.
I wrote a paper on the MK-ULTRA project. All of what he is saying is publicly available, and it's not that hard to find. So maybe he's trying to inform the lay man, but he has provided nothing more than publicly available information. He's really just dancing around/trying to remember what's publicly available and what's not.
I mean they have a gun with dissolving bullets that makes it look like you have a heart attack if i was a glow i would be towing that line like a tightrope unicyclist too
That’s probably because he doesn’t know anything else that’s not public knowledge. Just because he worked for this govt agency, does not mean he’s aware of all their secrets. That’s a stupid assumption.
Just hop on wikipedia and follow the trail.
@@ScoutSniper1990 do you ever think the Cia lays the Wikipedia trail etc to pull you away from the real conspiracies?
@@ScoutSniper1990 or maybe that's what the Roman's want you to think, that's why the secret underground mole people posted the yuri wiki article
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@Brad Fuller I wonder if people get training to be able to speak that much while saying nothing, or if that's a skill that some people just naturally have, that makes them suitable for government work.
@@scottcantdance804 you think? You think the CIA doesn't train people in the art of bald faced lying?
@@lockandreload No, I'm sure they do, along with training people how to resist questioning and all that other stuff.
More broadly, I'm wondering where the skill itself comes from. Like has this guy always been able to talk like this to one degree or another, or did he learn all of it while working for the CIA?
I asked it that way because my question goes beyond just the CIA, and covers any type of career politician as well.
Yeah, no way Mike would or could answer this question honestly. Unless he wanted to go on a permanent vacation. Lol
God Bless Corporate Intelligence
This guy’s family at the dinner table don’t even believe him.
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😂😂😂
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And if they do, they’ll never tell.......
But i’m sure his family isn’t disappointed by what the agency pays this ‘former disinfo/misinfo agent’.
Yeah this dude was clearly ex-cia. Dances around every question he's asked.
I went straight to the comment section hoping someone would say this.
@@djtekitizi the problem is that he only talks about things you can freely find on the internet and most of it is also incorrect which I believe he is doing on purpose. Put that all together anf it makes this interview full of shit.
Honestly, his body language and his stuttering and running and ahhing comes off more like he's uncomfortable talking about this stuff. When he's talking about subjects he's passionate and well informed, he doesn't do that. If I had to guess, I'd say he just doesn't really know much. I mean, think about it. If he was as well practiced at lying, would he be showing signs of discomfort? I wouldn't be surprised if he was way lower on the totem poll then people think.
@@stevedasbru spot on. The guy doesnt know much if anything
@@BooYaa253deffinitely. it honestly makes me doubt conspiracies. I mean either you gotta do mental gymnastics to make sense of the "he's a misinformant" theory, which at that point is just confirmation bias, or just treat him the way he presents himself, as just a fairly normal dude who worked for a government organisation. Not all that crazy when you think about it like that.
Once a FED... ALWAYS A FED!!!
It's not a career choice one should make , lightly ...
This guy would be a good politician, constantly meandering and never actually saying anything noteworthy
With his background he has to be careful about what he says. He has signed legally binding NDAs about his experiences/knowledge.
Reminds me of a line from RDR2 "I swear he talked the whole way but didn't say a goddamn thing"
@@Spookie425 Correct.
@Cocaine Cowboy lay off the meth dude
If he has legally binding nda's then nothing he says can be true. But he's out saying things anyway. Do the math
He is a master at saying nothing and talking two hours..
Almost like he worked in security or something xD
Literally pay attention its not that difficult
He's trying to downplay it, and it's a huge human rights crime. The CIA was not ALLOWED to "defensively" test ANYTHING on us.
This is another interview where I think Joe could tell us more info is less time in a more entertaining manner.
Was thinking the same thing. Once a "spook" always a spook
"Former"
No such thing. What you're witnessing is a cia employee engaging in PR work for the biggest criminal organization to have ever existed.
I thought about it.. But to see evolution difference
Ding ding ding
Wtfe.
Agreed. There is no way that the CIA could let someone be an "ex". Just like the nuclear scientists, they would, at the least, be dropped in on, surveiled, interrogated, threatened, coerced, etc. or just kept on the payroll and used for controlled opposition.
Gestapo they idolize
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Midnight climax sounds like a cooler way to say wet dream
Sounds way more literal to me... like you’re literally climaxing.... in the middle of the night
😂
@@sharktiff1 ya moms did
Lmfaooo ive never had a wet dream. Are they real?
I like nocturnal bust personally lol
Mike “ I talk a lot but don’t actually say anything” Baker
I guess that was what his job was all about since the beginning
He doesn't have time to say anything with Joe constantly interrupting!
Of course he is not gonna say anything
Man it seems like some people were watching a different video. The guy explains the cold war context, how it was funded through cutouts, talks about the lack of understanding of psychoactive drugs at the time, and says after the program was over almost all the files were destroyed. That seems like it would be the limit of his knowledge of a code word classified program that ended when he was 3 y/o. I mean what are you guys expecting? Him to admit he's a trained assassin through the art of hypnosis and LSD? This guy was probably a case officer out of an embassy who played detective in a foreign country. I doubt he would be on JRE if he was in a black ops unit or some other code worded program.
@@JohnDoe69986 I love all the knowledge and facts these detectives have on social media platforms so they can accuse people of being shills liars operatives and distractions
Does anyone else find it difficult to take what a "former" CIA Agent says seriously? These guys are the best manipulators in the world, EVERYTHING is a con with them. I feel like I'm being mind-fucked every time I hear one speak!
Well and comments like that make any former CIA agent hesitant to come forward. I find it difficult to take what anybody says these days.
All of these interviews with them are the same. They are pro at talking for hours and saying nothing new or that isn't already public knowledge. It's like they all took a class on talking in circles. Lol
Cursing is a sin
@@dangbro2589 , actually it's not really, as long as you're not cursing the Lord or using his name in vain. Besides, you can't be all THAT worried about it if you're watching Rogan's podcasts. That guy curses like a drunken sailor!
I think it’s crazy how they always assign current agents to the deathbed of former agents, so they don’t give any deathbed confessions… stupid CIA
Mk ultra didn't stopped at 64', it still continues in the music industry and others
It's moved on to biological weapons, look at what has happened in the UK with Russia as well as COVID.
because you would know 😂
Absolutely! They perfected how to completely control people's lives.
@@cxnt.2861 We all should know! Look into scopolamine. Scary shit!
Look up targeted individuals, they are modern day mkultra test subjects
‘Former CIA agent’ equals Disinfo/misinfo agent, nothing more, nothing less.
Exactly
Mmm they do a bit more than just disinformation
@@sic308941 Yes. they murder people.
Is that why mainstream media news outlets hire them?
@@Danny-hj2qg yes-the mainstream media is propaganda, not news facts.
Let Edward Snowden interview this guy with Joe regulating!
TOP!
underrated post
Id pay to see that
Unfortunately that would end with the assassination of Snowden.
@@martingautreau5583 Snowden's controlled opposition
Dude sounds like a salesman. I don't trust em
You’re
from the south aren’t you...
You don’t trust the CIA man? Wha?
I don't trust him either. I think he's a snake in the grass.
Idk why he keeps coming on. He’s a liar. Never has any real info to talk about. Just dodges the tough questions.
@@jamesgannon7093 come on give him a lil credit, I'm sure he signed a Ndc... He's trying his best to not get sued
Any time you hear the phrase.."retired navy seal" they are talking about a current CIA field agent.
Seals got them loose lips. They can’t become cia lol
Yeah, these guys go from agency to agency. Gotta make a living
He's not talking like a "Former" Agent he's talking in circles
Former CIA Agent speaks fluent "Double Speak".....
1984
👉👉Watch Mike Pompeo BRAG about how he and other CIA agents learned to lie, and did it frequently, as if its a game! These LITERAL "deep state" intelligence and covert military departments are guilty of things RIGHT NOW that make MK ULTRA look tame by comparison! 😖
✔They figured out mind control a while ago, and they can remotely torture people, influence their thoughts, put them to sleep instantly, cause ANY type of pain imaginable, and they are testing it on US citizens NOW! 👎😡👎
@@HighlanderNorth1 Directed frequency weapons which are rumored to now be remotely directed from satellite to name one.
@@HighlanderNorth1 source please?
@@irenegunderson5809
Yep, ruclips.net/video/qfrhATD4nM0/видео.html
Remember guys; projects don't end - they become new projects based on what was learned in the first
MK-Ultra as a program finished - the activity continues to this day
Absolute fact.
Geral sosbee FBI Whistleblower
Richard lighthouse NASA whistleblower
Ted gunderson FBI whistleblower
All countries have targeted individuals being experimented and tested with direct energy weapons like voice of god weapon and dream manipulation technology
Some are born into the program some were protestors, direct energy weapons can be done remotely. Existed since the 50s that’s where the tinfoil “joke” came from it’s recently being recognized as Havana Syndrome
I always say the same thing about Project Stargate. They've just switched the topic to astral projection and remote viewing. The Cold War never ended; it's just gotten advanced enough to where most people don't even see it.
the fact that we know about mk ultra is proof that it was a huge failure
Once an agent, always an agent.
They've been subtely noggin rinsed to say alot but say nothing of issue.
Out of bail
I want everything this guy says fact checked by Eddie Bravo.
Look it up
whats so far fetched about mind control? look around.
@@-Siculus-Hort- Subliminal mind control ,
You don’t know your being controlled . Because idk but I like fortnite
Ur joke went over alot of peoples heads it seems
Dude would explode talking to Eddie 🤣
“Midnight Climax” sounds like the worst action movie never made by Michael Scott of The Office
Or the best porno ever
I hear there’s a sequel called “The Island”
Isn't the sequel to operation midnight?
@StormShadowGhost you took LSD with a bunch of hookers on camera? Sick
If it has Pam in it, it could be pretty good.
"Could this be used against Americans" Lets use this against Americans and find out.
Welcome to the United States government.
Oof
It WAS used against Americans by the USSR. In the last days of WWII America ended up with most of the technical documents while the USSR got most of the psy-ops documents including effective brain washing techniques and were using them on political opponents and POW's alike. The CIA was trying to bring that gap by researching from the ground up got cleared to do it by any means necessary. I cant stress enough how heinous their actions were but understand how crazy the situation was. Russia brain wash a fucking arch bishop and put him on national radio in a full cathedral and for him to admit to murdering babies and leading a treasonous, anti-communism terrorist organization like it was nothing just to push out the church and solidify their power base like any other tyrannical government. Unlike other tyrants, they had a massive nuclear arsenal and one of the largest populations on earth. "The Men Who Stare at Goats" looks into the far more ethical army version of the MK Ultra program and how that evolved into the horrible privatized armies of today.
@@notchomomma239
Imagine believing the USSR brainwashing propaganda LOL. What a dummy you are. Russia got us to attack our own people based on nothing but speculation.
@@cezerelecrucio9717 is called "history." When you don't believe something, some people will Google it just to verify they're not about to post a dumb comment while others will blurt out whatever comes to mind no matter how dumb it is... did you look before you leaped? Of course you didn't, that would require effort. One last concept tho, the USSR doesn't exist anymore so I'm talk about history, not current events. Prussia didn't kill your dog anymore than Rome killed your cousin.
My father was a victim of the MkUltra program. He was a helicopter pilot in the US Army who was admitted to a VA hospital after falling off the wing of an airplane while refuelling it... supposedly... That was not his job and he would have had no business performing such. After 18 months in hospital he came out a completely different person. He had been transformed into the perfect soldier, gun-ho and completely willing to throw himself into whatever suicidal task was presented to him, even after leaving his official military position, but a totally dysfunctional and violent alcoholic on civy street. He spent the 60s and 70s in Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Malawi, Rhodesia, Mozambique, and virtually every other 3rd world hellscape imaginable, flying choppers as a much sought after mercenary known in relevant circles as "The Maintenance Man". I never knew him. He was never around. He met his end in 1985, when while working as a carpenter, he fell off the scaffolding after suffering a heart attack... alone... with nobody to call 911 or take him to the emergency room... supposedly... There are no witnesses to confirm or deny the official record.
Sorry for your situation and how these incidents strongly affected your fathers ability to be a soldier as opposed to a father. My thoughts are with you my G❤️
Yeah that was definitely no accident. Tying up loose ends and liabilities so there’s no witnesses or proof and they claim plausible deniability smh evil
wow i’m so sorry… sending love
The CIA pimps hypnosis paramedics ties make believe it was the wing
This is one Shady dude who I guarantee he has done a lot of devious shit.
that's a given!
...or can do like if he had done some things, but can never affirm it.
You are a misinformation FBI agent!!!
@@bidenadministrationischina5091 and you are off of your medication. LOL !!!
@@wyattblackwood3927 I'm taking my oxy right now thanks buddy!
this guy says so much yet still so little lmao bunch of none answers what a waste of time
Would have been more interesting to see his pre false flag mission meeting before he went to JRE
But when someone like Eddie tells the truth yall call him stupid. Pick a side you npc.
Greatomeister ??? who called him stupid? stop picking fights with strangers lmao
That was my initial impression too, but he did say at the end that he thought Manson got his LSD from the clinic that was sponsored by the CIA.
Manson was a pimp prior to his incarceration. It’s not unreasonable to assume that he learned mind control through some CIA experiment and was able to take his pimp game to a whole new level.
He's only allowed to talk about what it is already public knowledge. There's also confidential information that even most CIA agents aren't allowed to know. If he knew something that was classified, it would be really stupid for him to talk about it on the biggest podcast in the world. Big ups to Mike Baker for having to courage to come on the show, I'd be worried about letting something slip that would cause my house to have a mysterious gas leak.
Cia ops are compartmentalized. He wasn't on these ops, so he don't know shit about them. But he marginalized and deflects as some sort of denial that these abuses could've ever happenned. He's a Cia pr hack.
There is no need to destroy assets when they can just be institutionalized as schizophrenic or dismissed as part of the conspiracy theorist smokescreen.
@@larrywheels762 when did he ever act like these things didn’t happen?
You all know so much about this wow are you all Jason Bourne?🙄
CIA agent provides cover for government crimes, uses public info to pretend like he is saying something and you say big ups... good god.
Everyone always talks about the drug side of MKU but nobody talks about the other half of MKU that is still classified to this very day that dealt with Radio Frequencies.
What happened???
I'm intrested
You a freemason r what
or*
It's still classified because it worked.
I like his tactic. Only give opinions on the framework Joe comes up with. Explain nothing in fear of divulging beyond what’s known publicly. Impressive, but obviously lying/omitting facts.
James Reese he is definitely skilled but I hope he knows we all see thru his mannerisms
You know to get a security clearance you need to basically sign a document that says that you will go to prison if you divulge any classified information. The higher the clearance the higher the punishment. Baker had at least an SCI clearance, or even higher, so he rightfully treads on careful grounds. Otherwise, he'd get Ed Snowden-ed.
Why would he know? Records were destroyed before his time. 49 separate projects where literally only two individuals knew the whole picture, are dead, and destroyed all evidence.
@@elikronen4024 Exactly. He both probably legitimately knows almost nothing about it (I'd bet the CIA is just as secretive to their employees as they are to the public; if you have no need to know, they tell you nothing), and also is trying to be careful to not potentially say anything that could possibly be non-public.
Very good assessment. You've an amazing observation skills! Is this what your secret agents always do?
*So what are your thoughts on MK Ultra?*
“Well when we go back to the stone age and we look at the first humans creating fire...”
😅😅😅
What??
He never mentions that they were also using the hookers & LSD to set people up for blackmailing. I know someone that was involved, unwillingly. This 'retired' CIA dude is a joke.
@@Canzandridas Agreed, and Joe is helping him all the way.
@TraumaFree TV I agree on all stated. I know some of the people you mention, but you just gave me some new names. Thanks. Noted and I'll be looking into them. I found the daughter to the madam online. She's sharing all kinds of first hand information, plenty of documentation too, photos, etc. I personally think Zuckerberg, Musk and some others have been through a MKUltra type program. Do you know about the Sabbatean-Frankists?
the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
@ayman El attar salvation yankee arnold 4 mins youtube
@ayman El attar troll much?
You forgot the quotes "Nik-plagerist"
KEISER SOZE
That was also Mr Gold’s greatest con
Everytime CIA guy says “RIGHTTTT?” take a drink for catching him dodging the truth or illustrating deniability
"This was clearly off the rails." A perfect summary of the entire history of the CIA.
And it just keeps getting worse honestly… creepy
Thank-you!!
@@estellepatella2520 and exsistence
Wouldn't be surprised if the CIA stuck a smelling device in my bed to test my farts to see if I was taking my meds or not 🤣
Underrated comment 💯
I love how quickly everyone caught on to the truth and straight up called this guy out lmao 🤣 it’s hilarious and also awesome to see everyone completely aware of the truth
You can NEVER trust someone who has been employed by the CIA.
There are a couple that are trustworthy like Ray McGovern and Phil Giraldi but they mainly talk antiwar issues
Ikr, always in the back of your mind you thinkin' what kind of shady or even fucked up shit he's done workin' for the CIA. Messed up man, but hey one or the other you chose that path. Unfair or not.
I'd rather trust a stranger than a government employee...
Every person in this comment thread needs to get a reality check, jesus christ.
@Bif Webster You got credible sources?
This guy is expert in answering a question without answering
He'd make a great press secretary for the Biden white house
Lot of people NOT being fooled anymore by the look of these comments....good.
very good
@Տςհաҽҽժվ ᏖᎧᎴᎴ like what? 😂 it’s human nature. We will replace them and then fear will cause us to create another CIA . You gotta oppress the poor and undesirables and do dirt to spy on your enemies .
Good, but bad. As citizens, we cant fix problems that we dont know exist yet. All we know is the mainstream narrative is a lie. But what's real? Who knows. So then wtf are we gonna fix.
Dawg, you still being manipulated by someone. You gonna read or ingest information somewhere and your brain will form opinions based on that information. If they can infiltrate that information then they can influence your opinions, and nobody really knows too much about their operations or what they have their hands in.
@@Topagendadolla ya know, as much as I want to disagree and say it’s wrong it is the truth. Just wish there was maybe a little bit more moral oversight and essential “reigning in of the dogs” to stop the unknowing population being effected you know? Any alphabet boi/agency is going to do something bad whether they planned it or not, but I do believe some of these people need to be held for their actions
Just when you think questioning a CIA guy about MK Ultra would be interesting. Then this guy comes along 🤦♂️
My FBI agent
•cries in creep•
This guy's clearly still getting checks.
Either that or he is a true believer and buys into his own BS
Of course he is..it's called a retirement pension lol
*Cheque. Ffs
I have no idea why joe let this serial bullshit artist on his show this many times, thought he knew better.
My FBI agent wants those paychecks coming. Says things are getting tough, “bruther!”
This dude is being very careful with his answers
Feels like MK Ultra is in full swing right now 😬
Yeah, no shit
It never stopped its only been accelerated
Thomas Matthew Crooks.
@@protectthetruthbeen thinking the same thing...
@@evanblessyotrap Yeah, Rogan is a fed. I mean they had the first neurolink patient go on there, trying to desensitize to what they are going to force on people and they did say many times that they'd force "behavioral changes" on the masses, they're all in on it, everything connects to black rock, black rock is CIA, black rock even owns Tesla, the CIA runs neurolink, they run everything really, including this app, which is built on to most people's phones.
"Former" CIA, right...
E
feels like i got clickbaited hard.
Please note that MK Ultra is still in effrect, but in a digital version. Be aware!
Reality next of kim
CIA doctors pimps are everywhere hypnosis erasing memories
For starters there is no such thing as ‘former’ CIA. Secondly you shouldn’t let the gatekeepers sell you locks. Listening to a CIA man talk about CIA atrocities is like asking the guards at world war concentration camp to describe conditions there.
@Avery Breaux really? joe rogan the podcaster was involved with MK ultra? are YOU on lsd? lmao
@Avery Breaux you guys are nuts...
Gatekeeping:
the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something.
If "they" wanted to gate keep Rogan wouldn't have a podcast. He wouldn't ask open ended questions. He wouldn't silently listen while the guest rambles on. He wouldn't invite individuals will sensitive clearances and experiences (ie. Bob Lazar) to come speak about the topics we're all curious about. Because... that's the exact opposite of "limiting access" to these things.
No. Instead he would ONLY entertain us with less informational and more opinionated podcasts (talk about politics, entertainment, technology, global warming, etc).
Not the actions of a gatekeeper.
@@shropski1750what a strawman..
Im a targeted individual
This guy is a paid shill. Thats why he immediately brought up, shortcomings, and couldn't draw conclusions. He's just covering.
@B T yep. Which is why I watch his shows not for his opinion, but to see if the person he's interviewing is legit. Most of the time it's not.
Yeah, I wonder if he even read the book. The book had a few shortcomings, but a lot of stuff that really makes you question the real motives. He didn't even talk about Jolly West and David West, Completely jumped over the Haight Ashbury clinic. Joe should've brought of Reeve Witson.
@B T its a form of digital media, so you're right. Too open for manipulation, and misinformation.
@@Squash101 he read it, with a biased perception, so he just wasted his time.
100% I was literally about to say - Gotta love it when Joe, possible CIA operative, Rogan brings Shills on to push an agenda saying that our gov. intelligence agencies were just a couple of goofy creepy dudes who liked to jerk off while watching people fuck prostitutes on lsd... and definitely NOT committing horrible atrocities on adults and children using extreme torture & drug use to see how they could break the human psyche into multiple pieces for mind controls purposes & military intelligence.... It definitely wasn’t that at all... 😒😒😒
He must be Joes handler
@Mi Scuzzi damn thats a good one
@Mi Scuzzi wow... that also raises eyebrows about the robot voice they had. "The joe rogan experience."
"Yeah yeah stick to chimps and monkeys and MMA. I'll fold you if you dive in to any of my coassified crap."
He is.
@Mi Scuzzi the british chick activates him..
This stuff does absolutely happen. I've seen similar things, not quite on this level, happen in my home town. Being in the dope game you see a lot of things that others dont
You a end user 😂😂
@@crichey56 I have definitely been know to be a user. However I've also seen first hand how the feds and city police work while investigating the dope game and what happens when the FBI comes to town when somebody in the game dies.
@@ryanmckee6971 yeah me too, just kidding man 👍👍
Mk ultra was 100 % successful
Such a joke. Tom proved with documents. The way he laughs at everything and try’s not to take it serious is a weird denial tactic.
I mean think about it: If something is seen as crazy, out there, or ridiculous, psychologically most people won't want to associate with it for fear of looking more ridiculous than is the social norm. Nobody wants to be ostracized
You have to remember who created the term conspiracy theorist as well...
The CIA coined the phrase "conspiracy theorist" after JFK's assassination.. FYI
@@schylerjohnson9216 the term was first used all the way back in the 1870’s. I think you fell too far down the rabbit hole lol......
@@Gouyamusic 95% of the comments have their fat asses sticking out the top of the rabbit hole. Idiots calling real skeptics idiots and saying “this guy is lying about everything, vaccines yada yada, brainwashing yada yada, something something JEWWWWSSSS, don’t read books!!!”
It’s just sad.
This mans waitress never leaves cuz she doesn’t believe the order he gave her
LOL
I actually laughed out loud. Anyone who doesnt either is an idiot and doesnt get it or souless. If your reading this did u laugh?
I am
@@anthonywandowicz8084 nah I get it but it’s not that clever it’s kind of an obvious joke.
@@anthonywandowicz8084 stfu i got it and didnt laugh.
The evil in this world breaks my heart and always will. Live honorably.
It's good that it breaks your heart, even if it hurts. It shows you are still human.
I’ve met a few select individuals in my lifetime who are familiar with and practice the art of saying everything while saying nothing . . . .none however have reached this man’s level. Peak bs-ing. 👌🏼
An intelligent man, obviously intentionally holding back known information, great at playing the verbal shell game. Look into his eyes, he becomes uncomfortable when being dishonest.
Notice that he did not even get into Neural Linguistic Programming. A lot of people were mind-fucked because that aspect of NLP can alter your perception of reality. Many believe there are those in positions of authority in government who are part of a cabal using NLP programmed subjects for a variety of disgraceful acts.
He is slow slick with answers. Much respect, he gets a direct question but side steps it and answers another question without taking a breath, an Joe may or may not notice. Love this.
The very fact that Joe even has this liar on his show is evidence that Joe is complicit with all this. No surprise.
Im sure body language experts would have a field day with this guy.
Yeah he looks like he could be put in the stockades, without moving him. Fitting
"body language experts" have been thoroughly debunked by real science, and you still pay for FBI training in it... Its literally just some dude giving an opinion... lmfao
hahaha...when Joe mentions Allan Dulles and JFK he squirms in his seat like a mother plucker
@@nomasnofuss8393 Dulles is his daddy
thr MK Ultra programs of the 1950/60s, are being preformed daily in front of our faces.
Mkultra didn't go away.
Worst weapon known to man sir. You are right.
Nope, They finished it...And now its in use
This is the funniest Joe Rogan video clip
😂 😆 ruclips.net/video/yVcd6YbSgBA/видео.html
@@th3grizzlygam3r worse than the nuclear bomb? Doubtful.
@@TheKhashix actually sir, not physically no but with how well it's worked consistently and psychologically, far worse.
Let's get Alex on with Mike and see how that goes
Lets get icke on with anyone who goes against him. See how that goes
B T paid agent, thats why they banned him on everything. Thats why he exposes them every change he gets. This know more news channel that you told me about in another comment supports him. So wtf are you even talking about. Come with some facts on what Icke is wrong about then.
B T he’s not with him, thats why he has him on as a guest and supports his book heavily. I don’t believe in Q and certainly am not looking for trump to save me. We can only save ourself by reaching a higher consciousness from within.
@B T you are the real shill here.
that would be a disaster waiting to happen
MKULTRA programming is more prevalent than ever. They just changed the name (Project Monarch). It was not disbanded and countless Americans and many celebrities have been subjected to it. It's imagery can be seen throughout movies, TV and music videos which are intended to trigger programming.
I know. Every time I watch Lizard Lick Towing I have the urge to assassinate the prime minister of a foreign nation. Not sure which one, though.
Yeah they figured out how to shape and control society without chemicals, kinda genius. Most in the USA are too busy fighting left vs right to realise its them vs the govt.
Yeah I heard the M in MK was for monarch also reference to the butterfly because it has some innate directional instinct to fly to the same place annually. So I guess they figure if people have all seen the same "programming" they will all respond the same also? Some nostalgia perhaps? Obviously some people are more susceptible to suggestion than others though.
@@annalisavajda252 Butterfly effect
Mike really struggled through this and what he was allowed to say
Mike accusing the CIA of using cheap hookers then chuckling about it is the most telling part of this interview
Pro life tip; there is no such thing as former CIA.
notice how often he stumbles and stutters, his brain is almost setting smoke. 😂
He literally shuffled as soon as midnight climax was mentioned
@@msscotian4209 “it’s interesting how many people are aware of th-“
@@danielstockley5631 yeah there is.
What this guy doesn't want you to know is that MK Ultra is still going on ;)
I dunno I think they got a lot of success with mind control with television and phones. Go on a bus, train, or walk downtown the street and see how many people and controlled by their phones
@@bonpaoi4736
No.
@@JJWalters thats not control thats distraction. They still literally control certain people to do their bidding.
@@bonpaoi4736 wtf....did I miss something?
I like the way he insulted the author of that mkultra when he began talking about it.
Imagine How Many Operations Were Successfully Purged From History
This man is saying a whole lot of nothing to say something.
That’s the point. You have to sign a non disclosure act. He could be sued or even charged with treason
My FBI agent thinks he’s cute, and yes, privacy and respect and shit
@@chrisquiett1776 Or worse. Source: Ex-CIA Kevin Shipp.
How do you think he feels about the quote from William Casey, CIA Director (1981-1987)
saying; “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” 😉👁
Earth is flat, you heard it here folks
@@korpen2858 who told you?
That quote gets Baker aroused. That’s how he feels
The CIA is unconstitutional. There's no oversight or accountability and it's shrouded in complete secrecy.
They've lied their asses off about a whole lot of things we believe to be factual!
The world is a stage!
Joe Rogan’s style on interviewing people is so on point it just flows. Number one ☝️ in interviews
I think David Letterman is much better. When there's bullshit, he pulls the shit out. Watch the The Trump interviews and the Bill Riley ones. However, Joe Rogan lets his guest (s) talk and is nice to his guests.
Haha his cryptic answering is so fed
It's nice to see two CIA agents get along so well. It seems so natural. Wow!
Huh? Joe is CIA?! :D
yeah if he had this guy on once or twice it would be one thing but he has this "former" CIA guy on a lot, even though the guy does everything he can to not answer questions directly.
@Yes Moe jogan is bought, packaged pretty for that 18-35 demo, who think they are learning truth but we can see the hand slid up his back moving his lips. ## ask eddi bravo. "Look into it" love . E. B!
@@ronniehdable
E.B. is bought and payed for also...as is Diaz.
@@AZ-kr6ff you prob know mo Dan me. Lol
You will get more decisive answers from a magic 8 ball.
Good one 😅
Answer hazy. Check back later.
Touché 👍🏻😂
Right????
Funny. Definitely applies here.
What's the point? He literally just talks about public information.
Hey man he wants to stay alive! Not end up in gymbag with 3 bullets in the back of the head labeled suicide.
Are you really expecting a former cia agent to just go ahead and tell joe all these crazy top secret files.... on a podcast....
Come on 😂
No but thats his point - dont get him on the podcast if we dont learn new shit haha
@@megajanninatorable or you can just be entertained by what you know hes going to do...
Do you think he's gonna just tell you all the classified shit? He would get not only himself but Joe into deep shit.
The Interview was rolling along pretty good... then when the hard questions come, ah, um, aaa, bbbb.... carefull what you say Mr. CIA. lol.
The way he's able to circumnavigate questions and his use of double speak is priceless.
Do your own research
Tom O'Neil's book on the Manson story is great. Well worth the read and explains why this government is not to be trusted.
Chaos?
Joe's quarterly session with his CIA handler, that never answers a damn question properly!!!
Dammit whatever happened to the good old real estate agent
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You mean, Joe the government shill?
Tom O'Neil collected the information over a 20 year period, but I think it was "Dan Pieperbring ( co-author), who pulled it all together and put it into a coherent," book format. I not only read the book, I annotated it.
Fascinating that people can so easily dismiss evil because "we thought the bad guys were doing it too."
Best comment about this subject.
hearing this guy speak about it really irritates me.
There is no good and evil, only negative and positive like you cart btry. Its just me and you pal, not mythological beings from the Bible of pages of marvel Dc and manga. Its jus is bro, we are the ones doing it. Aint no damn UFOs. More like, folks are to stupid to know what their own gov is doin.
In Europe we call these methods fascist. Very scary to realize that the ie USA and Canada condone these concentration camp crimes, And refine them all the time. On a grand scale. And no repercussions.
How dare you people to raise a family/have children in such environment?
MK Ultra is literally one of the reasons why I don’t trust our government. I don’t know if this video mentions it but a lot of these projects get renamed and they do it again even after being shut down.
He even hints at that, "...project ended in 1964...supposedly". Then, "...ended in 1964...officially".
@@StevenMW It ended in 1973.
"CIA Dude is definitely still CIA and definitely actively framing public opinion through his friendship with Joe" is the main thing this clip screams glaringly at everyone. 😂👌
People shitting on Joe for having him on however if he didn't have these liars on then we wouldn't see it
@@nukima11 That's actually a very interesting point
@@letten2596 yeah, Joe's really big about Non-censorship to "everyone". It's one of those "tell us how you really feel" things... if we just censor everything we don't like then we'll never know. Knowledge is the greatest gift.
@@nukima11 does that mean Joe is smarter than we think? Also he seemed to be really hush hush and fact checking during alex jones podcast
There's no such thing as former CIA. That said, I never care who his guests are. None of them can sway me one way or the other.
He doesn't give "background info". He just gives a synopsis of O'Neil's book
Lies he knows something darker activities CIA pimps training soldiars warlocks naguales nahaults do
This guy should be an actor. All he did for 10 mins was say “ummm” and half way convincingly lie about everything
“MK ULTRA ended in ‘64 ... officially”
I was in the exact point in the video and 2 secs later i read your comment xD
Once a CIA gent always a CIA agent. Hes giving us the same answer as he would on active duty.
Not really the deal of the devil over
Everytime he says “ I’m sure everyone knows this but for those that don’t” take a shot 😂 this guy really gave no information or even a single cool story while talking non stop about nothing at all
He definitely read up on what was publicly available before talking on the show here lol
And what's more likely is that while he was in the CIA he wasn't very aware of all this stuff going on and is just using his ex CIA employment to get legitimacy so he can talk shit and make some money. Most CIA projects are all kept separate to avoid leaks and most employees don't know what the others are doing in their projects or if there even IS a project
He never brought anything new to the table he just talked about stuff you can find yourself online
His response sounds like me when my girlfriends dad asked about our relationship for the first time. 🤦♂️
love these comments, everyone is waking up, everyone sees through the lies now
Yeah..... Keep telling yourself that.
ignore the negative ass holes in the replies here. People are definitely waking up. It's pretty clear...except to the nihhilstic arrogance that plays itself across the ramparts of time...this version being internet trolls.
Vicodyn it doesn’t have anything to do with intellect. The corruption and sheer evil going on in the world is starting to become widespread knowledge. People are finally questioning the government’s bcuz the information of when they were less than trust worthy is out there.
Pilau BEAN Flicker it’s not remotely the same thing. In my eyes it is more about questioning the authorities and the mainstream media which we are right to do. If you have full trust in those higher powers you need to spend some time researching...
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This guy's 'awe shucks' personality makes espionage and covert operations feel so approachable.
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He is so worried to say anything. All his pauses of consideration really has all the papers he signed worried him . Or maybe he fears what happened to other loud mouths.
Or maybe he doesn’t actually know any secrets. It’s not as if he was involved in MK-ULTRA or anything else that’s so fascinating to the public. If he feared anything about what he knows, I doubt he would even come on here. Or do his own podcast, which he does all the time. Dude doesn’t know anything we don’t.
Or he's disinformation trying to recollect what's in the public sphere of knowledge. Wouldn't want to accidentally leak REAL classified info. Gullible.
Or he takes his job very seriously. The man took an oath, and as he himself put it, 'I take my oaths very seriously, i promised to keep my yap shut about anything not marked as declassified and thats what im going to do'.
It is a form of integrity. You may not approve of this particular form of integrity bit it IS a form of integrity
One slip-up and Mike Baker gets suicided
It is never ok to do studies on people without their permission... doesn't matter if they thought it could hurt you or not!
Thats why the right to privacy is so incredibly important.
good job genius
I dunno. There was a study done in Russia years ago (by a random college student) that was fun and harmless. Dude just randomly started waiting "in line", and tons or random people joined the que. Makes me laugh whenever I think of it.
Searching for papers sexual harassments
"Test" people???
More like EXPERIMENT on people.
IT IS SICK!
Thank you Joe R. We love you in my family sir!!!
The way he reacted to the Kennedy comment 😳
CIA sus
Got a video with this guy proving smokeless gun powder makes a puff of smoke in a grassy knoll field test. What was the question on Kennedy? and how does he react?
@xannyphantom Dulles, who was a Wall Street lawyer before heading the CIA and his brother John Foster was Eisenhower's Sec of State. So what does Mike seem to think about Dulles being picked by LBJ to be on the WC? Only a coincidence?
@xannyphantom Here he is in Dealey Plaza. ruclips.net/video/jCkv0Rh2qFQ/видео.html
Ben Kennedy never died...