I would suggest adding some type of fluid film to those brake drums since the original coating has been removed by rust and the cleaning process. Without a coating, they will likely rust up again fairly quickly. Just my 2 cents.
@@evertmorse8518 As she stated in the video her goal was to remove the rust so it didn't look so crappy when seen through the wheels. She accomplished exactly what she intended, so for her it was not a waste of time. And I'm sure she knows that the brake shoes are inside of the drum thus not wearing the outside of it.
It’s because they hold up better in muddy and sandy condition. They also react differently then disc brakes when wet and are not as susceptible to brake fade.
Toyota uses drum brakes in the rear to save cost. Cheaper and they last longer than disk brakes. Also, the front breaks do most of the breaking and for off road purposes they still use drum breaks to help keep debris out of the braking system.
You are absolutely correct. My Tacoma TRD Pro just had an oil change and they checked the brakes. After two and a half years, I still have 80% brake left on the rear drum brake pads. Can’t beat that.
I thought Drums, though partially sealed, actually are worse for off-road gunk as they are not totally sealed and discs are easier to clean, am I wrong here?
Hi Chloe, just my .02, but you really should have a Jack stand under the axle for safety. Never rely on just the Jack to support the vehicle . Eye protection too. Be safe!
Nice job scrubbing. Yes, this job wouldn't even be necessary if Tacomas were up graded to disc brakes! After you have them clean, as you mentioned, you could spray them with paint or even spray clearcoat on them. I dont think its necessary to waste a micro fibre towel to wipe off, any shop rag would work just as good. I use my micro fibres only for on paint or glass. There too easy to scratch paint or.. because everything sticks to them. Good Vlog.
Chloe please wear safety glasses when using wire brushes and wheels on your Makita! The rust particles as well as some wire strands can fly off and impact your eyes!
I live far upstate NY and we get tons of salt on our roads in winter. I've done this maintenance and painted after. I use a de-oxidation grease on the backs of my wheels where they contact the drums as well as the front rotors. Tacoma's are notorious for the wheels getting frozen onto the drums over time.
When you have to do your next brake job, look into coated rotors and brake drums. Bosch sells coated rotors and drums that have a silver coating to protect against road salt and other harsh weather conditions. I bought them for my mother's Toyota, because she still lives and drive in NY.. These might save you the time to clean them in the future..
I’m going to do the same thing. But, after getting most of the rust off I’m going to use rust converter. Then I’m going to paint it. I also use spacers. So, I’ll put a very light coating of anti seize between the hub and spacer and wheel.
Hey Chloe, I've watched a bunch of your vids. Old ones and newer ones. And just wanted to know if you ever thought about converting your drum breaks to rotors? Keep up the vids plz🙏 as I and many others watch faithfully
I think rear drums on the Tacoma is the best option. Disc brakes (especially in the rear) need a lot more maintenance to keep them working well. The rear pads on our accord don’t last long, and the calipers have leaked due to corrosion from all the road spray the rear gets. I recently inspected my rear drums on my 2018 TRD OR and it looked almost brand new in there… I think those brakes will last 300K without needing anything. I would like to remove the drum surface rust though😊
Hi there, next time, grab a jug or two of "Evaporust" pull the drums and let them soak for enough time to dissolve the rust. 4 to 12 hours or so, it all depends on the amount rust.
Great video. I tend to do a little bit of scrubbing/rust prevention every time I rotate tires. Next time maybe try pulling the cover off because technically break dusts accumulates and to much is not good either, something that should be done about every 50k and helps with longevity of the drum brake. Lots of good RUclips videos out there as well on how to service your drum brakes. Keep up the good work.
An etching primer and rustoleum will keep it black for a long time. Mine are looking a little rusty, so when I change the oil and rotate the tires I think I will media blast them and paint.
Nice job, I understand leaving the drum on, when cleaning the axel. But if pull the drum off, it would be easier. Also have you tried Coke-cola to remove RUST, you may be surprised. Keep up the great work!
Removing the drum would also allow for the internal parts to be inspected for condition. Surface rust on the outside would point to more on the inside.
Use Skyco Ospho. While I was building my bedcage I only could work on it a couple days a week so it got surface rust on it. I also fabricated it in my driveway outside so the morning dew would land on the metal tubes everyday. Spent about an hour putting this on and wiped it off the next hour (depending on how bad it is and temperature) and was ready to paint.
Nicely done and good call on PPE! People doing stuff on their cars/trucks without eye protection always stresses me out. One trip to the ER with metal in my eye after working on my truck cured me of ever doing that again. :-)
Ditch the degreaser, use wd40 with wire brush or scotch Brite pad, cleans rust much better an quick. Hit it with some hit temp black paint after or fluid film. If you don't treat it it's just going to rust again
Eight years in the Navy made me very choosy about what rust I'll bother cleaning. Brake drum rust isn't one of them. But if I did, I'd fer sure paint them after I cleaned them.
You could have angle your drill so that its parallel to your drum, your wire wheel would be perpendicular to the drum's surface, giving you easy access to clean the space you didn't get to.
What I've done (and believe is easier and longer lasting) is remove drum, bead blast and paint. Takes less than 10 min a side (not including paint dry time).
Two eye-doctor visits for me! 1. To remove a silver speck of paint from my cornea that came off of a gas shock absorber, when I cut the nylon strap that kept it compressed during shipping. 2. eye-exam and a prescription for antibiotics to fight the eye infection that resulted when a speck of rust landed in my eye while cutting off a no- longer used tail-pipe hanger. I was wearing safety glasses during the second incident. Hind-sight says I needed to wear safety goggles instead!
The Tacoma costs slightly less than a comparably equipped 4Runner, however; Toyota should regardless be putting disc brakes on the rear. With that said, drum brakes work fine. Please wear eye protection when using a wire wheel Chloe! I know you have all the PPE available. How many of your viewers recommended you take the drums off first?
Chloe, I love you and your Tacoma. I love the mods you've done on it very much. However, I didn't know that you lived in southern California where I just heard a rumour that gas is like $7.00 a gallon. If you don't mind me asking, how much does it cost to fill the tank on that truck every week? Lmk. I also want to say that I can't believe how mechanically inclined you are too. Much come from your engineering background lol ❤️.
I feel that Toyota should have four wheel disc brakes. I also own a 2008 Toyota RAV4 which does have disc brakes all around. One would think that parts such has pads would be less expensive for disc brakes, right. My 2019 Tacoma is the first vehicle I’ve owned with drum brakes.
Can someone help me? My Tacoma has issues with the 4wheel drive working. When I turn on 4 wheel, when I turn its like the back pair aren’t turning with the front, idk how to check it or fix it. My truck just jerks
Just a question why did you not just pull off the drum and clean them… it would of been a lot easier and you could of got rid of all the trapped brake dust in your drum and clean it with the brake cleaner…
Love your videos but I question why are you doing this? I’ve worked on cars for over 50 years and never saw anyone do this… Could you use a blueing agent to stop the rust?
U did a good job, but, u should've worn eye protection because using those metal wire drill bruches those wires can fly at u. Ive seen it happen before, and its happened to me. I wasnt wearing eye protection, and a wire flew at my face, & almost hit my eye. Im lucky that it didnt happen
You made more work for yourself by not taking the drums off. If you take the drums off, you can not only clean the whole surface, but also pain the drums with high-heat paint. Also, clean and treat the mating surface on the axle. I had drum brakes in NY too. Salt destroyed them.
I would suggest adding some type of fluid film to those brake drums since the original coating has been removed by rust and the cleaning process. Without a coating, they will likely rust up again fairly quickly. Just my 2 cents.
Good idea. I'm thinking cheap transmission fluid or used motor oil.
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As she stated in the video her goal was to remove the rust so it didn't look so crappy when seen through the wheels. She accomplished exactly what she intended, so for her it was not a waste of time. And I'm sure she knows that the brake shoes are inside of the drum thus not wearing the outside of it.
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I should be getting my Tacoma in the next couple weeks, and I might possibly paint the drums.
It’s because they hold up better in muddy and sandy condition. They also react differently then disc brakes when wet and are not as susceptible to brake fade.
I agree with you drum brakes work just fine. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it
Toyota uses drum brakes in the rear to save cost. Cheaper and they last longer than disk brakes. Also, the front breaks do most of the breaking and for off road purposes they still use drum breaks to help keep debris out of the braking system.
You are absolutely correct. My Tacoma TRD Pro just had an oil change and they checked the brakes. After two and a half years, I still have 80% brake left on the rear drum brake pads. Can’t beat that.
I thought Drums, though partially sealed, actually are worse for off-road gunk as they are not totally sealed and discs are easier to clean, am I wrong here?
Hi Chloe, just my .02, but you really should have a Jack stand under the axle for safety. Never rely on just the Jack to support the vehicle . Eye protection too. Be safe!
Nice job scrubbing. Yes, this job wouldn't even be necessary if Tacomas were up graded to disc brakes! After you have them clean, as you mentioned, you could spray them with paint or even spray clearcoat on them. I dont think its necessary to waste a micro fibre towel to wipe off, any shop rag would work just as good. I use my micro fibres only for on paint or glass. There too easy to scratch paint or.. because everything sticks to them. Good Vlog.
Chloe please wear safety glasses when using wire brushes and wheels on your Makita! The rust particles as well as some wire strands can fly off and impact your eyes!
100%
And tie up the hair. Having a patch ripped out is unpleasant
absolutely. Did this once from a wire wheel and spent 9 hours in an ER getting a tiny piece of metal out of my eye. Never again
@@dave1096 Maybe she likes a little hair pulling? lol
I wear a N95 mask when cleaning brakes to limit inhalation of the dust. It helps to prevent black boogers.
I live far upstate NY and we get tons of salt on our roads in winter. I've done this maintenance and painted after. I use a de-oxidation grease on the backs of my wheels where they contact the drums as well as the front rotors. Tacoma's are notorious for the wheels getting frozen onto the drums over time.
When you have to do your next brake job, look into coated rotors and brake drums. Bosch sells coated rotors and drums that have a silver coating to protect against road salt and other harsh weather conditions. I bought them for my mother's Toyota, because she still lives and drive in NY.. These might save you the time to clean them in the future..
I’m going to do the same thing. But, after getting most of the rust off I’m going to use rust converter. Then I’m going to paint it. I also use spacers. So, I’ll put a very light coating of anti seize between the hub and spacer and wheel.
Hey Chloe, I've watched a bunch of your vids. Old ones and newer ones. And just wanted to know if you ever thought about converting your drum breaks to rotors?
Keep up the vids plz🙏 as I and many others watch faithfully
I have a 2017 Taco, and never would have thought to do this. Thanks for letting us know this probably needs to be done.
it does not need to be done... it's for aesthetic reasons only.
I think rear drums on the Tacoma is the best option. Disc brakes (especially in the rear) need a lot more maintenance to keep them working well. The rear pads on our accord don’t last long, and the calipers have leaked due to corrosion from all the road spray the rear gets. I recently inspected my rear drums on my 2018 TRD OR and it looked almost brand new in there… I think those brakes will last 300K without needing anything. I would like to remove the drum surface rust though😊
Definitely should have painted them.
Hi there, next time, grab a jug or two of "Evaporust" pull the drums and let them soak for enough time to dissolve the rust. 4 to 12 hours or so, it all depends on the amount rust.
I put the Road Master Active Suspension system on my rear springs and boy it make a big difference in the ride.
Great video. I tend to do a little bit of scrubbing/rust prevention every time I rotate tires. Next time maybe try pulling the cover off because technically break dusts accumulates and to much is not good either, something that should be done about every 50k and helps with longevity of the drum brake. Lots of good RUclips videos out there as well on how to service your drum brakes. Keep up the good work.
An etching primer and rustoleum will keep it black for a long time. Mine are looking a little rusty, so when I change the oil and rotate the tires I think I will media blast them and paint.
Nice job, I understand leaving the drum on, when cleaning the axel. But if pull the drum off, it would be easier. Also have you tried Coke-cola to remove RUST, you may be surprised. Keep up the great work!
Removing the drum would also allow for the internal parts to be inspected for condition. Surface rust on the outside would point to more on the inside.
Chloe I used to paint the drum covers with high heat rustoleum.........black, red or same color as the body.
Use Skyco Ospho. While I was building my bedcage I only could work on it a couple days a week so it got surface rust on it. I also fabricated it in my driveway outside so the morning dew would land on the metal tubes everyday. Spent about an hour putting this on and wiped it off the next hour (depending on how bad it is and temperature) and was ready to paint.
Been planning on doing this to a friend’s taco. Good stuff! Not super mechanical myself, so I’m glad to see it pretty in depth first!
You can find a rust dissolver at AutoZone by the paint section it works amazing .... The drums came out nice ...!! Awesome job.. 👍
Nicely done and good call on PPE! People doing stuff on their cars/trucks without eye protection always stresses me out. One trip to the ER with metal in my eye after working on my truck cured me of ever doing that again. :-)
Great Job they look good but that was a perfect opportunity to add some color to the truck even if you went black.
If I had a woman like you I would never worry about my car. GJ on the videos!
Ditch the degreaser, use wd40 with wire brush or scotch Brite pad, cleans rust much better an quick. Hit it with some hit temp black paint after or fluid film. If you don't treat it it's just going to rust again
Hi Chloe,
Great content! Question, do you have or will you be posting a video on rear drum brake job? Thanks!
Interesting to see modern vehicle still using drum brakes, I thought everyone uses disk brakes now.
Nice Chloe! will you consider doing a rear disc conversion in the future?
Chloe, you are the best. I love watching you work on your rig. Any time you are in vermont you are welcome to help me work on my taco or stang.
Its ready for high temp spray paint!!
Good video Chloe very informative I appreciate it very much I always learn something new watching your channel 💪🏾💯 keep up the awesome work 😎
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Now that it's finally starting to warm up here in TN, I'll definitely be doing mine
nice looking drums !!
the drums work fine
we aren’t racing around a track well atleast i’m not.
living in Northern Ca
i’m hyper mileing !
Great job! Your hair looks great too!
Eight years in the Navy made me very choosy about what rust I'll bother cleaning. Brake drum rust isn't one of them. But if I did, I'd fer sure paint them after I cleaned them.
MY 2018 tacoma looks clean but my drum brakes look way rusted. Hoping the rust doesn't actually cause issues.
Might want to do a conversion video too. That would be cool
What leaf springs are you running? Also, great video, we don’t use salt on our roads in Oregon, but living near the coast causes lots of rust.
Nice video!
There is an upgrade for disc brakes for the rear 😉.
Maybe a future video from Chloe? 🤔
Drum brakes less affected by dirt - less maintenance - longevity (drum does about 20% of the braking)
I would say it's better to take the drum off then clean it because the soap water will get inside through the wheel studs.
How about a rear disc brake conversion? 🤔
You could have angle your drill so that its parallel to your drum, your wire wheel would be perpendicular to the drum's surface, giving you easy access to clean the space you didn't get to.
i would love to see a video of you doing a rear disk brake conversion.
Could you take the drum off and then clean it?? awesome video by the way!
Take the drum off and also clean / blow off all the brake dust that sits in by the pads.
You could! If you want to paint it, that’s probably a good idea anyways
What I've done (and believe is easier and longer lasting) is remove drum, bead blast and paint. Takes less than 10 min a side (not including paint dry time).
Good upload. Outer brake drum surface rust has plagued Toyota truck owners for generations.
Two eye-doctor visits for me! 1. To remove a silver speck of paint from my cornea that came off of a gas shock absorber, when I cut the nylon strap that kept it compressed during shipping. 2. eye-exam and a prescription for antibiotics to fight the eye infection that resulted when a speck of rust landed in my eye while cutting off a no- longer used tail-pipe hanger. I was wearing safety glasses during the second incident. Hind-sight says I needed to wear safety goggles instead!
Thanks, I'm from LA 👍😂
Is there a disc brake conversion for the taco? I'm asking because you mentioned the brakes.
did you think about removing them and grit blast them and paint um ?
You should do an engine bay cleaning video.
Yooo this is awesome dude! Nice work
I just uses simple green on a bucket inside brake drum n shoe
It would have been a nice video if you would have converted your drums to discs there's a lot of people that trying to do that conversion
Keep up the good work watch the frame I would paint it
Thanks I almost forgot to do mine
Absolutely nothing wrong with rear drum brakes, one of the readons that I want a Tacoma. Great video - subscribed.
The Tacoma costs slightly less than a comparably equipped 4Runner, however; Toyota should regardless be putting disc brakes on the rear. With that said, drum brakes work fine. Please wear eye protection when using a wire wheel Chloe! I know you have all the PPE available. How many of your viewers recommended you take the drums off first?
Could you get them powder coated
Why didn’t you apply brake paint at the end
Chloe, I love you and your Tacoma. I love the mods you've done on it very much. However, I didn't know that you lived in southern California where I just heard a rumour that gas is like $7.00 a gallon. If you don't mind me asking, how much does it cost to fill the tank on that truck every week? Lmk.
I also want to say that I can't believe how mechanically inclined you are too.
Much come from your engineering background lol ❤️.
Great video !
I've heard for towing they use DRUM. Painting the drum to show through the wheel was always a thing (day glow orange)
I feel that Toyota should have four wheel disc brakes. I also own a 2008 Toyota RAV4 which does have disc brakes all around. One would think that parts such has pads would be less expensive for disc brakes, right. My 2019 Tacoma is the first vehicle I’ve owned with drum brakes.
I would recommend also wearing safety glasses especially if you are grinding rust particles with power tools and break cleaner usage. 😬😰
Sick Video!
Why you don’t paint the rear drums?
Can those be changed to Stainless steel?
Yeah. After all that work of de rusting. Apply a rust inhibitor. Paint, treatment, etc.
Hi Chloe, Thanks for the video. However I suggest you put mask before doing anything with rust. Keep up the good work. Just my 2 cents.
What blows my mind is the newer vehicles still using drum brakes and have not converted to disc brakes yet.
You should paint them or mybe put a clear coat on them
Is it possible to change those to disk brakes?
How long did it take you to do everything?
Well done! :)
GOOD JOB! Next time please put wear glass on protect your eyes! 🙏🏽👌🏽🤟🏽
Do you just throw away that microfiber towel afterwards or is there a way to clean it?
I wash it but just reuse it as a rag for stuff like this
Safety glasses!
Can someone help me? My Tacoma has issues with the 4wheel drive working. When I turn on 4 wheel, when I turn its like the back pair aren’t turning with the front, idk how to check it or fix it. My truck just jerks
Just a question why did you not just pull off the drum and clean them… it would of been a lot easier and you could of got rid of all the trapped brake dust in your drum and clean it with the brake cleaner…
I know I'm an idiot, but wouldn't it have cleaned up easier if you pulled the drums off and cleaned them lying flat?
Please wear eye protection in case the wheel brush spinned off.
Love your videos but I question why are you doing this? I’ve worked on cars for over 50 years and never saw anyone do this…
Could you use a blueing agent to stop the rust?
U did a good job, but, u should've worn eye protection because using those metal wire drill bruches those wires can fly at u. Ive seen it happen before, and its happened to me. I wasnt wearing eye protection, and a wire flew at my face, & almost hit my eye. Im lucky that it didnt happen
Cat-ion or An-ion...?
Your so awesome 👌
You made more work for yourself by not taking the drums off. If you take the drums off, you can not only clean the whole surface, but also pain the drums with high-heat paint. Also, clean and treat the mating surface on the axle. I had drum brakes in NY too. Salt destroyed them.
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Great video. My suggestion is to wear safety glasses. You only have 2 eyes.
Those are better than brake rotors cause brakes more stronger
I wouldnt even bother. Just convert it to disks
I think it's wack to only have drums on the Tacos when everything else toyota offers have disc brakes. Tundra, 4Runner, the cars, etc.
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Eye Protection with wire wheels
Where is the jack stands and jack back safety be more safety wize
Lol i cant believe toyota STILL uses drum brakes.
hi chloe wassup