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Been years since I have changed out drum brakes. Thank you. One thing - we all have cell phones. Take a couple pictures prior to disassembly to refer back on.
I seriously cannot believe you have not gotten MORE LIKES. This was awesome bro. The video views were thorough and right up there where the viewer could see everything you did. Thank you for your time and generosity!
I love this guy; doesn't waste time talking about nothings. gets right to the point. BRAVO. There are so many time wasters on repair sites. They don't rehearse, don't layout parts, etc. don;t film right, etc. etc etc Thank you, Sir
I watch a lot of RUclips videos when working on vehicles, boats, guns, home improvements, etc. This is by far the best tutorial on any DIY video, I have seen. Outstanding job!!! Great attention to detail, specifically those M8x1.25 bolts.
I always love to hear that. Thank you! I try to make them how I hope they would work for me if I needed to watch it, not longer not full of fluff, just where everything needs to be.
Thank you so much for this video. I never could have done it without your help. By far the most detailed step by step tutorial on RUclips. No ridiculous monologue or personal agendas. Bravo.
YES! I've started to DIY maintenance on my 2017 and your channel has been my #1 go to for everything. I refuse to pay the price to change the drum brakes. Haven't check your channel in a while and boom, just what I needed. Thanks for your videos!
Just ordered your maintenance tracker and map and headed over to check out your channel. By far one of the best DIY videos I've seen to date. Commentary was paced perfectly, and camera shots were spot on. Production level for this content is much appreciated. Looks like I'm going to tackle the rear drums.
@@teamoildrop It might take me a minute, but I'll be watching your library of content. I've hesitated at the transmission c/o, but if it is explained in a similar fashion and pace as the rear drum video, I'll tackle it. There is a cost savings to DIY, but also an unchartered metric being a sense of accomplishment. Thanks again for the stellar content. Now the only choice is which video to watch first lol...
@@EuroboostUSA we take every task nice and easyyyy. Proceed at your own risk but know we are always a quick message away. Join us in the discord as well for quicker responses and help 😎
It took a week after I got the parts but finally did the job. Your video was instrumental in a good outcome. Somethinng of value is to use needlenosed vicegrips to grab and place that top spring which has lots of resistance. Thanks
I'm am old ASE Tech who did this 35 years ago and I love your vids. I love to review things before I play spin the wrench on my baby. Your dead accurate and enjoyable to watch. Thanks bro for reminding me of all the crap I have forgot over the decades and showing me what this "new" stuff looks like. I don't know this glove stuff you kooky kids do nowadays, bare hands and blood is how we always did it. LOL
@@UncleSnaf thanks for the words brother! Ya know… I wear gloves more on camera than off. I too like the max dexterity of bare hands. Heck, I almost always have grease and dirt stuck in my hands and skin now 🍻
Great video- best description of how to do drum brakes I've seen. Your video and communication style is great. Thank you and keep up the good work. Very professionally done and amazingly good video. Thank you for sharing this and keep up the good work.
Great video, you described the process very well, camera was positioned well. Very professional. Thanks for making it possiyfor me to tackle this. The old cars were much simpler, i wouldnt have done it without watching a detailed video like this.
Excellent video!!!! Best (and I mean best) auto instructional vid I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much. Clear, fast paced, considerate of time, you know your audience. Guys needing info so they can get to work. You’re amazing man.
Just hit the Like button! Just clicked Subscribe too! Just watched the first video! Will sure spend a lot of sleepless hours watching them over and over again. Thank you sir!!!
@@teamoildrop luckily no major catastrophes. Religious maintenance intervals. I did 5k mi oil changes most of its life . Now I do every 3k miles since I'm past 200k mi
Thanks for this video, I’m finally changing the shoes on my 2006 Tacoma after 249,000 miles. I bought it on Feb 2007. I have changed the front pads many times but never the back. A couple of weeks ago I started hearing some grinding from the back right wheel. Shoes definitely last a long time lol
@@teamoildrop it was terrible 🤦🏼♂️ I never want to mess with drum brakes ever again in my life lol The passenger side rotor would not come off. I had a mechanic friend of mine help me, he’s in his 60’s, he said he’d never encountered a rotor so hard to get off in his life 🤦🏼♂️😆 But, after losing my salvation more than a few times, got both sides done and ready for another 250,000 😎😆
@@onehappydawg god I’m I’m on mine right now at 235k miles and have spent the last hour trying to get the drivers side off. Of course I just stumbled across this video and the one I watched prior just had someone hit it with a hammer and it slide right off. Going to grab some bolts right now and try that
@@laxwarrior98 what happened with mine is one of the shoes got caught in a grove in inside the rotor and we ended up having to beat and bend it and finally pry it off. Hope your comes off easier than mine
Nice as always. Here's a story for you. I bought the lifetime alignment through my local Firestone dealer. While in for that service, I asked them to check my rear brakes and they said the same thing you did, "they'll last for a lifetime", which I think they meant at least 100K. Anyway, withint a day or so, I started to hear a light squeal coming from the passenger side drum area. A few days later, I decided to go in there and clean them up. While doing so, i couldn't believe it but the top of the passenger shoe hold down was off!! I couldn't put it back on, as I needed three hands. Got the wife, had her hold the back, and I was able to finally get it back on. I wonder what would have happened if that thing had completely come off?
Thanks! And this is exactly why I always choose to DIY. I KNOW it gets done right. I’d say you would have prematurely worn down shoes, squeal would become louder, maybe even a grind. Other then that nothing too catastrophic. 80% of your stopping power is in your front brakes.
Awesome walk through. I started on the passenger side and was surprised both brake shoe retaining springs and caps were just loose in the drum. From the factory. They must have given up trying to get the caps on. Driver side went way faster. I contemplated running into traffic at least twice while doong the passanger side. All said and done the feel great. Just need to adjust them so the e brake grabs better. Any advice on how tight to set them.
@@j_motto outstanding! Like the video shows you’re gonna want to adjust until you feel that light resistance of shoe to drum contact. Then pressing the pedal does the rest in regular driving. Sounds like you’re good to go!
Good video for a first timer. Always take a picture before you start. lol I use vise-grips. You can grab and pull the springs into their respective location and works great on getting that cap on for the spring that keeps them pushed to the dust shield on. That rubber plug is an inspection hole to see how much shoe you have left. Adjusting, you don`t want to hear a rubbing constantly. Adjusting them you should hear them rub at first when you rotate back and forth until they center up with drum. Rubbing means friction, which means heat. Properly adjusted brakes you will not hear rubbing, You don`t hear the brakes rubbing BEFORE you take them apart cause the self-adjuster does not adjust them to that condition. Pulling your emergency brake to the extreme or backing up and hitting the brakes will self-adjust to the proper gap.
Thanks for another great video. It's been a long long time since I've replaced drum brakes. I think I used to adjust mine by backing up pretty fast and hitting the brakes hard. Ever heard of that?
Thank you! My pleasure as always. That is exactly how I adjust my drums on my old 93’ wrangler. That and using my parking brake a lot. Same methods can be used here however when the adjusting knob is available it quite simple and more accurate.
That’s how most rear brakes adjust. But on my 02 Tacoma the way they adjust is to pull on the parking brake level on the dash. I found another way under the truck that gets both sides by pulling the cable.
Got 100k out of my first pair but they were DONE. You might go really easy on your brakes. Cause I’m pretty soft on mine. Anyways, thanks for the clear and concise video 👍 I’ve replaced a few drum shoes now but it’s always nice to have a video to just double check my work as I go and be confident I’m putting the right springs in the right places.
I enjoyed video! I have a quick question. I'm an old timer so forgive me and my "old school". I was aways taught to be VERY careful not to put any oil or grease on break pad, that it would never break properly with contaminates on it and there was no way to get it off after it was there. I see there was a lot of anti-seize on your gloves while working (touching) pads. Was this ok??
Great and very fair question 😌 it is possible that a very small nearly untraceable amount of anti-seize could have transferred from gloves to shoe pads. However, I would expect no more than the average mechanic shop environments. Hope that helps!
So I just completed the front and rear brakes from this video thank you sooo much for all the help was really helpful. Just went for a test drive to brake the fronts in feels good. How do you or do you even brake in the rear drum brakes at all?
Thank you so much for the video. I will say though, for the people who are about to change out their drum brakes, definitely look into getting that specialized hook tool and maybe a pair of needle nose vice grips. It will save you a lot of cursing and swearing. 😂
@ yeah it can definitely be done. I did my driver side with the same tools you used in the vid. Had some cursing and swearing. Got some specialized tools before I tackled the passenger side. Went much more smoothly 😎.
Hey man great video. Question for you / anyone. Ive noticed my sport has a small shudder coming from the rear at higher speeds. Ive balanced the tires and checked her over. Nothing loose. The rear drums look like they were replaced very recently before i bought it. They do not have any drum weights on them. Wondering, 2 things. 1.)should that drum weight be at a certain position? 2.) are they needed?
The factory OEM replacements usually have the weights on them. Should they? Not necessarily, it's similar to a wheel balance where you may or may not need weights depending on how it all balances out. Unfortunately I'm not really sure how they balance out the drums themselves as that's a manufacturer task, not necessarily something you get performed as a maintenance task. I'd make sure all drum components are clean and lubed, then if you really want to, test to see how warm they are (use a laser temp gun) to see if they're getting hot after a highway drive. -Austin
@@teamoildropgood question is I tried removing my drums I live in southern Cal so not rusted out but I can't get the drums off, I looked at the holes you mentioned to use bolts to get them off but the holes don't have threads in them does the bolts you mention thread the holes themselves in 2017 Tacoma? I'm usually good doing brakes on my vehicles but these drums are a real pain..
@@teamoildrop I shined a flashlight in the holes there are even extra holes on these drums I didn't check every hole but there was couple I looked at & took a small screw driver to push into the hole sides & doesn't have threads, maybe they are in other holes of the drums there was also couple holes that didn't go in deep like there is metal plate behind the holes, it's really puzzling to me never had problems like this in all the years, I adjusted one side loose that thinking was binding on possibly a edge lip around the drum that maybe what's not letting the drum come off but I lubricated the center & all bolts yet no release of the drum now I have my pedal going much further down seems like I can't get the star nut to adjust tighter very tricky, worse case I will have to take it in to a brake shop & tell them to inspect my brakes & adjust them not sure if I should try to go any further on this what do you think?
"And now it's time to test your patience by attaching the c-clips." i'm dying with laughter while imagining myself doing this exact same thing in the near future.
What a valuable collection of information you have posted for us DIY guys. A break job, is like an oil change, something to be done at home. In my opinion. I have seen the light!..ive been a life time Ford owner, and i have now switched to Toyota Toyota are such nice refined up to date engineering (the entire company is on the same page!) Ford is lost. The entire company is headed in different direction and a complete mess of engineering that doesnt work. Keep away from 2023 and newer Fords ..you will pay for their incompetent, and lack of leadership. With every vehicle you buy from them. Stop supporting the mess
Holy shit! Thanks! I've been looking for videos to do my 17 Tacoma @118k. I wasn't sure if second gen was the same as third. I'm curious why not change out the drum?
You’re welcome! Even at 118k the brake drums themselves are likely fine. Unless cracked or warped or you can see divots on the shiny part you’re good to go. Drums last well past 200k and beyond quite often. Some people just swap them because they don’t like money or shiny = better in their eyes.
Nice video and we'll explained. I recently got the brake shoes replaced at the dealership, but the Tacoma feels off, like it gets locked. I feel like it brakes too soon without pressing the pedal. When accelerating it feels like it is being forced. Also they had to loose the parking brake, but it feels too loose and some times if feels tight, but if I release it and pull it back it is loose again. I suspecy the mechanic may no have assembled it right. I intend to take the truck back to the dealership for a revision. Any ideas what could be wrong?
Sounds as if they are improperly adjusted. Take it back. Drive 10-15 miles and pull over. Feel the rear wheels with the back of your hand. If they are severely misadjusted, the wheel will be rather warm from the brakes dragging. Greg
@@teamoildrop Thank you for the reply. I drove about 10 miles las night. The front wheels were 104°F and the rear ones were 140°F on the rims, on the drums it was even higher, about 250°F while the front dis were 170°F
Curious; how many miles did those drum brakes have on them? You right, they do seem to last forever. I actually use my emergency brake on downhill slopes. Just a slight pull really helps to slow tacoma down. But don't pull on them long, giving chance to cool a little between pulls. thx again,
Those C-clips are a lot easier if you bend the ears a bit to one side (NOT together) before you put them on. Also, look to see if one side is rounded. You want the rounded side facing down, as the sharp edge side is easier to grab.
Thanks for posting! I always do my own brakes because I can! But I can't for the life of me understand why Toyota went with rear drum brakes for their highly reliable trucks! Why Toyota why!!! They're so much more work to change out!
You don’t have to completely disassemble but you do need to remove the drum itself. Once it’s removed you should be able to get the stud out in around the 4 o’clock position as there’s some space to get the stud up and behind in that area. -Austin
Greta question… if you google cross reference the shoe and drum part numbers with your make and model…matching then YES. I can’t say with 100% certainty
The drums on my wife's corolla still had about a half or one third life left at a little over 150k. They're a pain in the ass to do, but they sure do last a long time. I changed them anyway. Probably won't have to again for the life of the car.
Drums are like a model set nobody wants to build. They are somewhat intricate, completely different then any other part of the vehicle, and just plain odd. Nice work DIYing the Corolla. And I don’t know.. Corollas can’t last a longgg time…
Sooo I need help. I had my taco in the garage on Jack stands for bout a week cause I changed out the lower control arms, brake rotors, brake pads, sway bar links, and the passenger CV axel. On the rear I changed out the drum brake shoes and after all that I was all done. Took it to get an alignment and on the way there it says “check VSC system” and my cruise control doesn’t work at all even after the alignment. I checked the wheel speed sensors and they all seem to be fine. Idk what I might’ve done but could you possibly point me in the right direction? Any/all help is greatly appreciated 🙏
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The only RUclipsr who thoroughly explains EVERYTHING about the tacoma. Thanks for the videos bro
@@Pokeventure_1 thanks brother! And a lot more to come 😎
Been years since I have changed out drum brakes. Thank you. One thing - we all have cell phones. Take a couple pictures prior to disassembly to refer back on.
I seriously cannot believe you have not gotten MORE LIKES. This was awesome bro. The video views were thorough and right up there where the viewer could see everything you did. Thank you for your time and generosity!
Love to hear it brother! My pleasure. Happy maintaining!
I love this guy; doesn't waste time talking about nothings. gets right to the point. BRAVO. There are so many time wasters on repair sites. They don't rehearse, don't layout parts, etc. don;t film right, etc. etc etc Thank you, Sir
@@joshbrewer3514 my pleasure josh 😎 thank you!
Thanks! Sooooooo much
Hey thanks! And that’s the first “super thanks” I’ve got Haha! I never talk about them. Happy maintaining brother 😌 🍻
I watch a lot of RUclips videos when working on vehicles, boats, guns, home improvements, etc. This is by far the best tutorial on any DIY video, I have seen. Outstanding job!!! Great attention to detail, specifically those M8x1.25 bolts.
I always love to hear that. Thank you! I try to make them how I hope they would work for me if I needed to watch it, not longer not full of fluff, just where everything needs to be.
Hey man! This was a great video. I watched it on repeat about a dozen times while replacing my drum brakes today. Thank you!!
Happy to hear it! Wasn’t that bad was it?
@@teamoildrop not nearly as intimidating as I expected. Of course, I owe a lot to your video 😄
Thank you so much for this video. I never could have done it without your help. By far the most detailed step by step tutorial on RUclips. No ridiculous monologue or personal agendas. Bravo.
If I can humbly say, that’s always my favorite recognition, no wasted time 🍻
Excellent video. Clear instruction, good camera angles and lighting, no unnecessary talking, just straight to the point. It was so helpful. Thank you
We strive for just that 🍻 thanks brother!
You guys are literally my "GO TO" for Tacoma services and so far, I have learned quite a bit and thank you again.
@@RandomCaliforniaAdventure our pleasure ! 🍻 😎
YES! I've started to DIY maintenance on my 2017 and your channel has been my #1 go to for everything. I refuse to pay the price to change the drum brakes. Haven't check your channel in a while and boom, just what I needed. Thanks for your videos!
Love to hear it! Happy maintaining!
Just ordered your maintenance tracker and map and headed over to check out your channel. By far one of the best DIY videos I've seen to date. Commentary was paced perfectly, and camera shots were spot on. Production level for this content is much appreciated. Looks like I'm going to tackle the rear drums.
@@EuroboostUSA thank you brother for the words and support! Here real soon I’ll be dropping another mega 3rd Gen video 😎
@@teamoildrop It might take me a minute, but I'll be watching your library of content. I've hesitated at the transmission c/o, but if it is explained in a similar fashion and pace as the rear drum video, I'll tackle it. There is a cost savings to DIY, but also an unchartered metric being a sense of accomplishment. Thanks again for the stellar content. Now the only choice is which video to watch first lol...
@@EuroboostUSA we take every task nice and easyyyy. Proceed at your own risk but know we are always a quick message away. Join us in the discord as well for quicker responses and help 😎
It took a week after I got the parts but finally did the job. Your video was instrumental in a good outcome. Somethinng of value is to use needlenosed vicegrips to grab and place that top spring which has lots of resistance. Thanks
@@rudyochoa6868 Great point! Thanks for the words and glad it could help 😎
Best Tacoma maintenance videos out there. Hands down! Keep up the great content and thanks for all of your help!
Thanks for the words and happy maintaining!
Best video done on RUclips on the Tacoma drums. Thanks for not overtaking and wasting time.
@@willhoyle752 that’s what we are here for 😎 thanks brother!
I'm am old ASE Tech who did this 35 years ago and I love your vids. I love to review things before I play spin the wrench on my baby. Your dead accurate and enjoyable to watch. Thanks bro for reminding me of all the crap I have forgot over the decades and showing me what this "new" stuff looks like. I don't know this glove stuff you kooky kids do nowadays, bare hands and blood is how we always did it. LOL
@@UncleSnaf thanks for the words brother! Ya know… I wear gloves more on camera than off. I too like the max dexterity of bare hands. Heck, I almost always have grease and dirt stuck in my hands and skin now 🍻
Great video- best description of how to do drum brakes I've seen. Your video and communication style is great. Thank you and keep up the good work. Very professionally done and amazingly good video. Thank you for sharing this and keep up the good work.
Thanks brother! Love to hear it.
Great video, you described the process very well, camera was positioned well. Very professional. Thanks for making it possiyfor me to tackle this. The old cars were much simpler, i wouldnt have done it without watching a detailed video like this.
Thanks! Happy maintaining and welcome to the team!
Excellent video!!!! Best (and I mean best) auto instructional vid I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much. Clear, fast paced, considerate of time, you know your audience. Guys needing info so they can get to work. You’re amazing man.
Thank you brother 😌 I build them like I’d hope to find them when I need answers as well 🍻
Man, your videos have saved me sooo much money, THANK YOU!!! Subscribed (a while back), Liked, and would have bought you a coffee if you had a link!
I love to hear it! Save that money and put it back into your truck but I do appreciate it! I’ll keep making videos for us all.
This was so clear and easy to understand! It really reaffirmed my idea of just taking it to the shop, because I hate changing drum brake shoes! 😂
😅to each their own!
Just hit the Like button! Just clicked Subscribe too! Just watched the first video! Will sure spend a lot of sleepless hours watching them over and over again. Thank you sir!!!
My pleasure! I make these videos for people like you who are adamant DIYers. Happy maintaining!
Another nice video! I like how you add a little humor in. Humor is handy on drum brakes. 😁
Thanks! It keeps the world and these drums spinning!
God I just got doing this glad my stock rear drums and pads lasted 215k miles on my 2017 thanks for all the help
Happy to help! That’s a good high mileage 3rd gen! Has it had any major mechanical issues?
@@teamoildrop luckily no major catastrophes. Religious maintenance intervals. I did 5k mi oil changes most of its life . Now I do every 3k miles since I'm past 200k mi
Love your videos dude. thanks for not wasting time. Just ordered a maintenance map from your store.
@@Slashscs8209 thanks brother! Happy for the support 😎
Another great video. I’m going to forward to my son-in-law so he and I can work on mine when needed in the future.
I heard he won’t charge more than $100 an hour!
This is one of the best DIY videos I’ve seen in a very long time. Great job! Detailed, amazing instructions, good angles for the shots. 🤘🏻💯
Thanks for the kind words. Tyler does have a very good talent for these instructional videos.
Greg
Excellent tutorial! Thank you! I will rewatch when the time to change my Taco's drums come!
Thank you! Happy maintaining
@@teamoildrop forgot to ask, what brand anti seize were you using on thia video?
@@nokianx400 basic permatex!
A 10 -- Great and excellent video professional instruction, clarity in explaining the process and very professional presentation.
Thanks brother! Happy maintaining
Best channel on Tacoma’s there is! You’re amazing and I’m sooo thankful for your channel !!! Stay awesome dude cheers 🍻
Thank you! We try! Happy maintaining 🍻 😌
I bow to your excellence by good sir! Bravo. Thank you for the top-notch content.
I do it for you Ponch!
New sub here! Sent it to a couple bros who also need this channel in their life.
You dropped this 👑
Thanks for this video, I’m finally changing the shoes on my 2006 Tacoma after 249,000 miles. I bought it on Feb 2007.
I have changed the front pads many times but never the back.
A couple of weeks ago I started hearing some grinding from the back right wheel.
Shoes definitely last a long time lol
@@onehappydawg that might be the longest I’ve heard someone run the rears 😆 glad to hear she’s getting some love!
@@teamoildrop it was terrible 🤦🏼♂️
I never want to mess with drum brakes ever again in my life lol
The passenger side rotor would not come off. I had a mechanic friend of mine help me, he’s in his 60’s, he said he’d never encountered a rotor so hard to get off in his life 🤦🏼♂️😆
But, after losing my salvation more than a few times, got both sides done and ready for another 250,000 😎😆
@@onehappydawg feel that? That feeling of DIY success? I love to hear it brother!
@@onehappydawg god I’m I’m on mine right now at 235k miles and have spent the last hour trying to get the drivers side off. Of course I just stumbled across this video and the one I watched prior just had someone hit it with a hammer and it slide right off. Going to grab some bolts right now and try that
@@laxwarrior98 what happened with mine is one of the shoes got caught in a grove in inside the rotor and we ended up having to beat and bend it and finally pry it off.
Hope your comes off easier than mine
Perfect video help me out a lot and went straight to the point and explained it really well and took it step by step
@@mannyrodriguez1996 thanks brother! 🍻
Nice as always. Here's a story for you. I bought the lifetime alignment through my local Firestone dealer. While in for that service, I asked them to check my rear brakes and they said the same thing you did, "they'll last for a lifetime", which I think they meant at least 100K. Anyway, withint a day or so, I started to hear a light squeal coming from the passenger side drum area. A few days later, I decided to go in there and clean them up. While doing so, i couldn't believe it but the top of the passenger shoe hold down was off!! I couldn't put it back on, as I needed three hands. Got the wife, had her hold the back, and I was able to finally get it back on. I wonder what would have happened if that thing had completely come off?
Thanks! And this is exactly why I always choose to DIY. I KNOW it gets done right. I’d say you would have prematurely worn down shoes, squeal would become louder, maybe even a grind. Other then that nothing too catastrophic. 80% of your stopping power is in your front brakes.
Excellent video Sir, I've subscribed to your channel. Thank you for all your hard work. It is truly appreciated!
Welcome aboard and thank you for the words! Happy maintaining- Tyler
This is a REALLY GOOD and well-made video. Thanks so much for your efforts! FANTASTIC!
My pleasure! Stay maintained! 🍻
Awesome walk through. I started on the passenger side and was surprised both brake shoe retaining springs and caps were just loose in the drum. From the factory. They must have given up trying to get the caps on. Driver side went way faster. I contemplated running into traffic at least twice while doong the passanger side. All said and done the feel great. Just need to adjust them so the e brake grabs better. Any advice on how tight to set them.
@@j_motto outstanding! Like the video shows you’re gonna want to adjust until you feel that light resistance of shoe to drum contact. Then pressing the pedal does the rest in regular driving. Sounds like you’re good to go!
Good video for a first timer. Always take a picture before you start. lol I use vise-grips. You can grab and pull the springs into their respective location and works great on getting that cap on for the spring that keeps them pushed to the dust shield on. That rubber plug is an inspection hole to see how much shoe you have left. Adjusting, you don`t want to hear a rubbing constantly. Adjusting them you should hear them rub at first when you rotate back and forth until they center up with drum. Rubbing means friction, which means heat. Properly adjusted brakes you will not hear rubbing, You don`t hear the brakes rubbing BEFORE you take them apart cause the self-adjuster does not adjust them to that condition. Pulling your emergency brake to the extreme or backing up and hitting the brakes will self-adjust to the proper gap.
Great tips! Definitely an art to swapping out the drum brakes, a bit more than just a material change out versus calipers/pads/rotors.
-Austin
i have to say, while this video is very in depth and awesome, it also tricks you into thinking this job is easier than it is!
@@tomwalker9971 I’d be lying if I said you are lying 😆
My first time watching your video and all I have to say is thank you. Great job 🫡
My pleasure! 🍻
I wish all videos were this good. Excellent instructions. Thank you
Thanks Blake 🍻
Great video. I really thought you covered everything. Good clarity and instruction. Thanks for making it!
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Wanna say thanks for letting me in your head for abit. We certainly got the job done . Thanks for the great video Pal
Always our pleasure 🍻
Best video I have seen on this. Drum brakes seems so over engineered after working with disk brakes for so long.
They are finicky, glad to be rid of them on the next gen, but no one can say they don’t work!
I was doing things way out of order. This way looks easier. Thanks
Glad we could help
Greg the Editor
The best tutorial video I’ve seen! You’re the best!
We exist to serve! 🍻
Thanks for another great video. It's been a long long time since I've replaced drum brakes. I think I used to adjust mine by backing up pretty fast and hitting the brakes hard. Ever heard of that?
Thank you! My pleasure as always.
That is exactly how I adjust my drums on my old 93’ wrangler. That and using my parking brake a lot. Same methods can be used here however when the adjusting knob is available it quite simple and more accurate.
That’s how most rear brakes adjust.
But on my 02 Tacoma the way they adjust is to pull on the parking brake level on the dash.
I found another way under the truck that gets both sides by pulling the cable.
I already know how to do drum brakes on my Tacoma and I still watched this for the fun of it.
@@devinjagoda8299 😎 🍻
Got 100k out of my first pair but they were DONE. You might go really easy on your brakes. Cause I’m pretty soft on mine. Anyways, thanks for the clear and concise video 👍 I’ve replaced a few drum shoes now but it’s always nice to have a video to just double check my work as I go and be confident I’m putting the right springs in the right places.
Guilty as charged. When it comes to braking, contrary to what my wife says, I’ve got a light ass foot. Thanks for the words and happy maintaining!
I enjoyed video! I have a quick question. I'm an old timer so forgive me and my "old school". I was aways taught to be VERY careful not to put any oil or grease on break pad, that it would never break properly with contaminates on it and there was no way to get it off after it was there. I see there was a lot of anti-seize on your gloves while working (touching) pads. Was this ok??
Great and very fair question 😌 it is possible that a very small nearly untraceable amount of anti-seize could have transferred from gloves to shoe pads. However, I would expect no more than the average mechanic shop environments. Hope that helps!
Thanks!
You bet!
Greg the Editor
So I just completed the front and rear brakes from this video thank you sooo much for all the help was really helpful. Just went for a test drive to brake the fronts in feels good. How do you or do you even brake in the rear drum brakes at all?
Sam as you do the front pads, they break in together.
Greg
Thank you so much for the video. I will say though, for the people who are about to change out their drum brakes, definitely look into getting that specialized hook tool and maybe a pair of needle nose vice grips. It will save you a lot of cursing and swearing. 😂
@@PunkPino you’re not wrong… I am
Guilty of making it look easy on camera… it takes the right angles and a few attempts on some of those springs
@ yeah it can definitely be done. I did my driver side with the same tools you used in the vid. Had some cursing and swearing. Got some specialized tools before I tackled the passenger side. Went much more smoothly 😎.
Hey man great video. Question for you / anyone. Ive noticed my sport has a small shudder coming from the rear at higher speeds. Ive balanced the tires and checked her over. Nothing loose. The rear drums look like they were replaced very recently before i bought it. They do not have any drum weights on them. Wondering, 2 things. 1.)should that drum weight be at a certain position? 2.) are they needed?
The factory OEM replacements usually have the weights on them. Should they? Not necessarily, it's similar to a wheel balance where you may or may not need weights depending on how it all balances out. Unfortunately I'm not really sure how they balance out the drums themselves as that's a manufacturer task, not necessarily something you get performed as a maintenance task. I'd make sure all drum components are clean and lubed, then if you really want to, test to see how warm they are (use a laser temp gun) to see if they're getting hot after a highway drive.
-Austin
Man, can you make all youtube car vids?! This was great thanks!
@@taco3ltoro I’ll get right on it 💪 😆
Thanks brother!
wow. thanks for the mention of new shoe thickness, my dealer just tried to get me at 54k miles because the rear shoes have 4mm left.
Right on! Glad you were able to keep rolling, typical mileage for rear brakes tends to be closer to 100k.
-Austin
Love all your videos man!!! Can you please make one for a brake fluid flush ?!?
I believe that is planned to film in the next few weeks
The Editor
Great video. What type of anti-seize were you using?
Thanks! Just standard silver permatex anti-seize does the job
Thanks for this! Great video as always!
You betcha! Thanks!
When adjusting the shoes, step on the brake to help with alignment so you get accuraye adjustment
Interesting diy video dude, where did you buy the brakes shoes at are they oem factory shoes?
I picked these up off of eBay through an OEM parts seller.
Great explanation. Thank-you. The last time I worked on drum brakes was in the early 1980s. I think was a Renault.
Thanks for watching!
Greg the Editor
Great vid! Do you happen to recall what size bolts you used to remove the drums?
Thanks! It’s in the vid m8x1.25!
@@teamoildropgood question is I tried removing my drums I live in southern Cal so not rusted out but I can't get the drums off, I looked at the holes you mentioned to use bolts to get them off but the holes don't have threads in them does the bolts you mention thread the holes themselves in 2017 Tacoma? I'm usually good doing brakes on my vehicles but these drums are a real pain..
@@HerbertAtkinson are you sure two of the holes don’t have threads? That’s pretty surprising! And is your parking brake off?
@@teamoildrop I shined a flashlight in the holes there are even extra holes on these drums I didn't check every hole but there was couple I looked at & took a small screw driver to push into the hole sides & doesn't have threads, maybe they are in other holes of the drums there was also couple holes that didn't go in deep like there is metal plate behind the holes, it's really puzzling to me never had problems like this in all the years, I adjusted one side loose that thinking was binding on possibly a edge lip around the drum that maybe what's not letting the drum come off but I lubricated the center & all bolts yet no release of the drum now I have my pedal going much further down seems like I can't get the star nut to adjust tighter very tricky, worse case I will have to take it in to a brake shop & tell them to inspect my brakes & adjust them not sure if I should try to go any further on this what do you think?
Best brake video that I seen
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This was a great video. Thank you!
My pleasure!
"And now it's time to test your patience by attaching the c-clips."
i'm dying with laughter while imagining myself doing this exact same thing in the near future.
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Great job guys, thank you for sharing your knowledge!!
Thank you for the kind words!!
-Austin
What a valuable collection of information you have posted for us DIY guys.
A break job, is like an oil change, something to be done at home. In my opinion.
I have seen the light!..ive been a life time Ford owner, and i have now switched to Toyota
Toyota are such nice refined up to date engineering (the entire company is on the same page!)
Ford is lost. The entire company is headed in different direction and a complete mess of engineering that doesnt work.
Keep away from 2023 and newer Fords ..you will pay for their incompetent, and lack of leadership. With every vehicle you buy from them.
Stop supporting the mess
Thanks for the kind words! It's definitely a great skill to have, and saves you quite a bit of money these days.
-Austin
Holy shit! Thanks! I've been looking for videos to do my 17 Tacoma @118k. I wasn't sure if second gen was the same as third.
I'm curious why not change out the drum?
You’re welcome!
Even at 118k the brake drums themselves are likely fine. Unless cracked or warped or you can see divots on the shiny part you’re good to go. Drums last well past 200k and beyond quite often. Some people just swap them because they don’t like money or shiny = better in their eyes.
Wonderful tutorial. Number one.
@@CP-pf6gx 😎
Nice video and we'll explained. I recently got the brake shoes replaced at the dealership, but the Tacoma feels off, like it gets locked. I feel like it brakes too soon without pressing the pedal. When accelerating it feels like it is being forced. Also they had to loose the parking brake, but it feels too loose and some times if feels tight, but if I release it and pull it back it is loose again. I suspecy the mechanic may no have assembled it right. I intend to take the truck back to the dealership for a revision. Any ideas what could be wrong?
Sounds as if they are improperly adjusted. Take it back. Drive 10-15 miles and pull over. Feel the rear wheels with the back of your hand. If they are severely misadjusted, the wheel will be rather warm from the brakes dragging.
Greg
@@teamoildrop Thank you for the reply. I drove about 10 miles las night. The front wheels were 104°F and the rear ones were 140°F on the rims, on the drums it was even higher, about 250°F while the front dis were 170°F
Fantastic video. Amazing job man.
Thanks
Greg the Editor
Thank You. Great job on this tutorial.
Thanks for watching!
Greetings . Would I need the anti seiz if I’m putting new drums ? I appreciate you for this video . Respect 🫡
@@jasenalapati665 most definitely use an appropriate brake grease or AS 😎
Curious; how many miles did those drum brakes have on them? You right, they do seem to last forever. I actually use my emergency brake on downhill slopes. Just a slight pull really helps to slow tacoma down. But don't pull on them long, giving chance to cool a little between pulls. thx again,
@@joshbrewer3514 if I recall correctly I was at 85k here… but it’s been a minute 😆
"Make sure your parking brake isn't just a limp noodle" lmao 💀
@@McLuvin712 you’d be surprised how many people would just say screw it, I don’t use it anyway 😆
Those C-clips are a lot easier if you bend the ears a bit to one side (NOT together) before you put them on. Also, look to see if one side is rounded. You want the rounded side facing down, as the sharp edge side is easier to grab.
Thanks for posting! I always do my own brakes because I can! But I can't for the life of me understand why Toyota went with rear drum brakes for their highly reliable trucks! Why Toyota why!!! They're so much more work to change out!
Thanks for the words! And right?? Finally they got it right with the 4th gen. Drums aren’t “bad” they are just so… parts intensive.
Very good video and sense of humor! 😆👍🏽
Mom always said I was funny 🍻
Awesome video man!
My pleasure! Thank YOU!
Great video and production, thank you!
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At how many miles would you recommend replacing the rotors of the drum breaks on this particular vehicle?
The drums themselves can last the entirety of your vehicle if not showing signs of wear. 150k plus is usually no issue.
i’m so excited to do this when the time comes 😭
Don’t lie to yourself, drum brakes are so fun! 🤣
-Austin
@ considering i watched spark plugs after this , this seems worlds more fun!
I snapped off one of my lug studs on the back of my 2017 Taco…. Am I going to have to disassemble the drum brake to get it out??
You don’t have to completely disassemble but you do need to remove the drum itself. Once it’s removed you should be able to get the stud out in around the 4 o’clock position as there’s some space to get the stud up and behind in that area.
-Austin
@@teamoildrop THANK YOU
😁Thanks! God Bless you for your awesome help.
@@steves2941 hey thanks brother! 🍻
@teamoildrop Would this tutorial be the same for a 5 lug 2nd gen Tacoma? Thanks
Greta question… if you google cross reference the shoe and drum part numbers with your make and model…matching then YES. I can’t say with 100% certainty
The drums on my wife's corolla still had about a half or one third life left at a little over 150k. They're a pain in the ass to do, but they sure do last a long time. I changed them anyway. Probably won't have to again for the life of the car.
Drums are like a model set nobody wants to build. They are somewhat intricate, completely different then any other part of the vehicle, and just plain odd. Nice work DIYing the Corolla. And I don’t know.. Corollas can’t last a longgg time…
Did/do you have 2nd gen specific vids?
I do not at this time sorry brother
But this exact video here applies to 2nd gens
Great videos !!! Just subbed
Thanks! Guess I gotta keep making vids!
I love the video. Maybe banjo music instead? Maybe? Just a thought. 😂
Are you suggesting drum brakes are outdated!?!? Because they are 😂
What's the labor cost for this job?
@@Villaeddie19 can differ wildly but I’d expect $400-$800
What size of the bolt did you use to remove the drum brake from the hub?
Grab 2x M8x1.25 bolts!
Great video. Too many parts to take apart and put back together. Think I’ll pay for the rear brakes with all the money I saved from your other videos.
Sometimes a person needs to know their limits and when to have the job done at a shop
Thanks
Greg the Editor
not a bad move! These can be a bit annoying sometime
Yeah this the least favorite maintenance rear drum 🤣
But with this video probably not anymore 🤣
Sooo I need help. I had my taco in the garage on Jack stands for bout a week cause I changed out the lower control arms, brake rotors, brake pads, sway bar links, and the passenger CV axel. On the rear I changed out the drum brake shoes and after all that I was all done. Took it to get an alignment and on the way there it says “check VSC system” and my cruise control doesn’t work at all even after the alignment. I checked the wheel speed sensors and they all seem to be fine. Idk what I might’ve done but could you possibly point me in the right direction? Any/all help is greatly appreciated 🙏
@@Sheeeeeesh6969 here’s a great write up… www.tacomaworld.com/threads/vehicle-stability-control-system-warning.545186/
@@Sheeeeeesh6969 I just sent you a link in a comment. Hopefully it doesn’t get filtered
Very nice presentation. Thanks
@@rudyochoa6868 thank you! 🍻
Doesn’t appear you changed your drums, only pads. Is there a reason to not change?
The drum itself can last a long time!
Thanks compa big help
Get some!
Saved me $500 👍🏼
@@nestorhernandez4455 🍻 money saved and skills gained 😎