Exactly. Something like This happened in my hometown where a woman was having an asthma attack and they disregarded her and made her sit in the waiting room where she passed away
I work in the er. With chest pain complaints the protocol is to do an ekg immediately. Also blood work and chest xray. If those results are normal and your vital signs are stable you usually are deemed stable enough to wait for an available room. If she chose to leave there is usually a form given to the patient stating they are choosing to leave against medical advice.
@Tasheri That is not smart. It's selfish and dangerous because you are putting people's lives at risk who are having a heart attack or other medical emergency.
I’m a nurse and when someone complains of chest pain,shortness of breath,pain in the arm that’s triage priority.it matters not what color,race,or male,or female.as a nurse chest pain means maybe heart attack.so I’m rushing that patient back and grabbing a doctor!
Unfortunately, you HAVE to advocate for yourself EVERY time you go to get medical care. Never assume someone else is watching out for your best interests.
It's difficult to advocate when one sick and alone. Some people arrive unconscious or drugged with pain killers before entering the hospital setting. The laws need to lean more toward the side of the patient and hold the medical professionals responsible for disregarding their own protocol and not administering the same level of care to all patients.
Women in general, especially black women are subjected to racial bias-ness in pain assessments and treatment. This has been statistically proven by PNAS. Black women are dying not because of their lack of advocacy on their pain, but because of their skin color.
@@malv8208 It is so aggravating as a woman having medical concerns not be taken seriously. I've personally had to fight for medical care many times. I can't imagine the further bias black women face. The studies prove what we already know.
Same thing happened with my sister. They sent her home. She was rushed back to the hospital a day later, died of cardiac arrest. She had pneumonia. Smh
Sadly I’ve experienced this I had a miscarriage and I was in horrible pain and the nurse who was treating me in the ER told me I was complaining and it wasn’t that bad. Broke my heart she was so mean to me. This is horrible we need to stand up and change this.
I am Mexican and my husband is Asian, our son looks more Asian, years back I took my son to the ER because he wasn’t breathing right, they told me that he was fine without even checking his oxygen level. I went back home and my son started turning blue so I called an ambulance and he was admitted to the intensive care unit for 10 days, they saw that his lungs were smaller than normal and he had severe Asthma, his lungs were getting tired of trying so hard to work that they had shut down and he was using a machine to help him breathe for him. After this incident I’ve taken him to the ER several times for the same reasons and they ALWAYS want to send me home without even checking his oxygen levels so I always tell them to check his history! His background! And I refuse to leave till they check his oxygen and when they do they always connect him to oxygen because his oxygen levels are really low. I hate that they always see me and automatically think that I’m exaggerating the situation and I’m lying or they just don’t care.
The need to properly vet these medical professionals. Compassion and bed-side manner is sorely lacking in most hospitals. Add to that a racist mentality and personal biases, and the hospital can be environments of hostility and apathy.
My experience with "us" is they do not treat us any better because they all learn the same system. I found that people with the title Dr. think they are gods and no one can tell them anything. Many drs come off as all knowing and angry if patients asks questions or advocates for proper care of oneself or a family member.
I always tell my patient's "No one knows your body better than you" if something goes wrong u r the 1st to know about it. If u feel like something is wrong it probably is.
When I was pregnant, I was having these pains that had me on the floor in agony. I went to the hospital, in tears, and they told me it was just gas. Gave me 2 regular Tylenol and sent me home. I kept on having these pains throughout my pregnancy, but would just pop some Tylenol and power through it. After I gave birth, I got fed up and went to the ER again. Turns out my gallbladder was full of sludge and stones. Had surgery the next day. People always wanna downplay other people’s suffering.
Title: ER waiting rooms are the new morgues. My neighbor went to the emergency room where he died on the floor right in front of a lot of patients, in front of the check in window. They revived him, put him in a wheelchair where he sat in the waiting area only to have another heart attack moments later which fatally killed him in front of everyone in the waiting room. RIP Ron.
I don’t understand why many people don’t demand governments to put more budget in healthcare. It’s a shame that this has to happen to so many people. Especially in the US, how can that happen in such a rich country. That is beyond my comprehension.
I remember a doctor saying straight up he's bias and would believe his white pts saying they're in pain before a black pt. I wonder where the "opium crisis" came from? My parents friend lost her son bc they didn't believe him when he said he was sick. He went to the ER three times! They thought since he was black he must be on drugs. His mother was a nurse, she drove him an hour to a bigger hospital, turned out he was in the last stages of meningitis. He died and she sued the hospital that turned him away. I will say this when hospitals KNOW they're wrong, they settle out of court. If you're a black person of means, hospitals will be on their Ps and Qs. It really helps to have a nurse that will ADVOCATE for you and check their bias. Above all these hospitals are understaffed and the employees are stressed out! If you work in a hospital, you understand what I'm saying!
@@dontneedtoknow8330 google.com . why ask a random stranger when you have the same internet access they do. it's not about being rude, it's about encouraging people seek information themselves. the world is so misguided because people depend on others to educate them. if you are competent enough to ask, you are competent enough to do it yourself.
This happened to me at 3 different ERs. I was knocking on death’s door almost 2 years ago. I was 20 years old, not even pregnant. My birth control gave me a pulmonary embolism. I had a less severe but similar pain a year before and my gyno just switched my BC and didn’t ask any more questions. When i was 20 i was visiting a firm for a couple days and almost collapsed at dinner. I was rushed to the ER. Afters days of being undiagnosed in and out several ERs with my mom, they misdiagnosed me with pneumonia. A week after taking strong painkillers, shortness of breath, abdominal and back pain, barely being able to love around, i went to my primary care doctor. HE FINALLY LISTENS TO ME. Orders a CT scan stat, tells me thats the first thing everyone should have done, and i find out it was a PE the whole time. I spent two days in the hospital on blood thinners and 3 months on thinners after. Even my CVS pharmacist was concerned she had given me so many prescriptions within that week. I was written 6 different prescriptions. This almost took my life before i began to thrive. I gained internship opportunities at the biggest companies in the world in my field, i became president of a student org, and i am so happy to say i’m one semester away from earning my B.A. in Accountancy at the University of Mississippi. I gained everything i am proud of today after that awful experience. Its traumatizing and i have high skepticism with doctors now
Yes birth control effect women health and you are more prone to diseases and yeast infection being on birth control. It’s hindering your body natural ability to heal and get rid of bad bacteria.
I swear to God this just happened to me I want to doctor complaining about my breast he pretty much ignored it I went to another doctor and I have stage4 breast cancer. Currently I am going after him for that!!
@@bree_amputee Why did you wait so long? If you had a mammogram annually, this would have been present. He wouldn't have been able to treat you in an ER or his office. Stage 4 means that it has matastitise to your vital organs.
“There’s a certain culture of how to handle yourself in healthcare...” this is so true. In addition to what Amanda is saying, come to your doctor’s office prepared! Know your medical history, know your medicines, know your symptoms, be able to describe them, and know the timeline!
For me I have really bad anxiety so even if I know what's going on and I know my medical history in the car I may not be able to describe it to the doctor when in the hospital but that's my fault. It sucks but I just shut down because I don't feel like they're gonna take it seriously in the first place.
Chest pain and shortness of breath takes highest priority, every healthcare professional know this! What the F? Heart attack or PE will kill anyone in minutes! This is crazy.
This was in Milwaukee? That's in Minnesota or Wisconsin. Predominantly white states. I can see them putting black and brown ppl on the back burner. The mother need to SUE, put them on high notice so this won't happen to another black woman. Sadly hers is gone before her time. What will make a hospital work harder at treating ppl right is to hit them in their pockets. It calls itself a "business" and it sees you as "customers". That woman lost her daughter, services were not provided in a timely fashion for a serious issue that takes precedence over everything else, she's beyond unsatisfied, compensation is in order! Lawyer up. She may not have her daughter but they will still send those EMS and ER bills.
@vayoha02 I'm from Milwaukee and it is in Wisconsin. The state is predominantly white but in the city of Milwaukee almost half of the population is black.
Actual Wakandan I have gone multiple times to the ER for my husbands chest pain. He couldn’t breath, along with a huge migraine! They took 3 hours to see us. Even than said nothing was wrong with him and we kept going back. Until finally we went some where else.
This happened to my mom when I was 12. The hospital sent her home and about a week later she passed away. Now at 14 I have to live the rest of my life without a mother.
So sorry for you loss. I hope you are being raised by a loving father or family member. Do you best to remember all she taught you and make her proud every day.
My grandma had a TUMOR in her ear..she had to diagnose herself and force them to run tests ..they initially told her it was an ear infection but my gma KNEW that wasn't it
It’s a racial issue for SURE, but it’s also a capacity issue with the emergency room. I went in for ovary contortion and it took me 6 HOURS to be seen. That was a medical emergency. A lot comes back to health insurance and just accessibility
I’m SO sorry to hear that. I’m an ultrasound tech and let me tell you, you should have been priority because you only have a 6 hour window to save that ovary
My healthy grandmother who was mentally capable, walked on her own and could carry out a conversation with ease had a brand aneurysm last year. Doctors stated that it was operational but due to her age, recovery could be complicated. They refused to do the operation. Her sons (my uncles) fought for this to happen and the doctors still refused. They took her off of life support and she breathed on her own for a week before she passed. Something was not right about the whole case! This occurred in Miami. A month later, her older daughter (65yo), my aunt had a asthma attack that lead to lung failure. She was on life support for almost a month in Alabama. They did a C scan and stated that her brain was normal. They stated that her lungs were improving and eventually wanted to take her off of life support. When they tried to wake her up, she tried to open her eyes but couldn’t. They did multiple c scans and stated that they couldn’t understand why she wouldn’t wake up. My family and I felt that they overly sedated her. Finally they brought in a specialist who looked at her and said she was “brain dead” even though the tests said differently. They went to take her off of life support and she went on her own before they removed the device. Her daughter stated that blood was coming out of her mouth. This again does not seem right. People do not always trust one doctor opinion, get a second recommendation always!
I had this happen in the netherlands. I was pregnant with my second child. I had been vomiting for over 3 days non-stop and went to the gp. Sadly my gp was sick and there was another one. He told me that he wouldn't check my vital symptoms eventhough my Caucasian husband pleaded. Said go home and try drinking more water. Less than 7 hours later I had to be put on ivy fluids at the hospital. Turns out I had hyperemesis gravidarum. We went back to our gp and he apologized and said he had seen my electronic folder from the hospital. And had made sure the other doctor would be given an official warning due to negligence. So sadly it isn't only black women in America.
ER are often overcrowded and understaffed. I would also advocate for going to see the Primary Care Physician at least on an annual basis. It’s true that there is implicit bias when it comes to bw receiving medical treatments I’m sad she passed away.
Wow you use a sweeping generality like that it in itself is a racist comment !! The hospital I use is well equipped and staffed and the ER has overcrowding some times but no matter your color you are taken care of as a priority to your symptoms I am a heart patient and I’ve still sat for a couple hours waiting and I’m white so stop your racist bullshit
Tasheri No. That’s not what PCPs are for. Go throughout the year for check-ups. That way anything medical conditions which develop in the meantime could be caught before they become an emergency. 🙄
I have so many story's I can tell about the unfair treatment with me. I shadow a certain ER in oklahoma. I was the only black young women in the DR. Section. We saw this one black lady and she told us her health history. When we got back to the station, he said" African American Females always lie about their health." I should have said something , but I didn't. I was so upset inside.
We have to keep advocating and educating... Never leave loved ones, friends alone in these facilities, if at all possible. It's so unfortunate when needs get ignored. So much takes place. Those with chronic conditions, the most vulnerable and elderly are impacted or ignored even more. Take notes, take names, video, ask for charge nurses, and those in supervisor roles. Even when they are under care. Find out meds being given. Ask questions. Hold these systems accountable..Do all necessary to see change take place and save loved ones lives
I’m SO glad the women are discussing these types of topics! I’m in healthcare and black women are seen as Strong always. We smile through pain so when we say we’re hurting, be it stress, physical pain, or mental pain, people listen with their eyes and decide we must be fine 😞💔
I remember when I was 17 I burned my hand really bad with grease I went to emergency room with my hand literally was burned to the white meat I know it sounds gross and it is ! So basically they let me sit there for four hours shaking in pain and I have insurance
Jay'Rell 4Real I feel you on the burning your hand with grease. Same thing happened to me while being pregnant. My hand suffered from 2nd degrees burn. I didn’t go to the emergency care, because I didn’t want to wait 2-4 hours to be seen. I work in the emergency room, so I know the waiting is really tragic. Unless you’re bleeding or has gun shot, you’re on the queue to be seen.
A big dog bit through my arms and face and they left me sitting there looking (and feeling) like the walking dead. I yelled for attention and someone had the nerve to tell me to relax and calm down. Worst part is it was the person who was with me! So true that some would rather try to avoid a stigma instead of addressing the persistent medical negligence that exists.
I literally waited in the ER for 6 hours once and all I got was some damn Tylenol at the end and after my insurance was applied I was still charged $315. I went to the doctor the following week in Tijuana and was treated right away and they said that I had pneumonia. I got all the meds I needed and paid about $42 total.
I really understand why some people will get health care in a different country. because in some countries health care is just trash or expensive as hell.
Aisha Aliexandra girl pneumonia can get serious if untreated and even lead to life threatening complications and death. I would go see a doctor if I were you and if you have access to low cost health centers check them out too. The ER is a joke.
So true, some doctors get too comfortable and dismiss patients feelings and that’s an issue. You have a right to healthcare and you know your body more than anyone else. Always listen to it. I pray for that poor woman and her family. That hospital should’ve done better.
I remember when I broke my toe when I was 15. It obviously wasn’t that important. I was there in the emergency room and there was a woman who had a stroke. But they took me in before her and my injury wasn’t even that serious.
@@traceytracey3756 it is with this show, when every other race start to get fed up with this shxt, it will only be the black community left, meaning losing a lot of viewers.
My mother passed away a few weeks ago. When she went into the hospital, she was transported from home, and the EMTs were too incompetent to properly record her name. It took us more than FOUR HOURS to confirm that she was there and at first we were told that she was stable and expected to recover fully. Which didn't sound right with the diagnoses they were giving us: pneumonia and sepsis while intubated. Then we found out that at some point her heart had stopped for seven minutes. She was completely brain dead. For an entire week, around Christmas, we were led to believe that everything would eventually be ok. What's worse is that when I had visited a week and a half before, I was alarmed at her breathing. When I asked her about it, she said she had talked to her doctor about it two days before and he said there was nothing to worry about. I, without a lick of medical training, could tell something was not right. Her doctor ignored it. Now she's dead. I am not a POC. It is important to note that this is an issue of intersectionality. Women, POC and the poor all suffer from these issues of being ignored. It only becomes worse when any of these groups intersect.
Coming from the perspective of someone who has worked in the medical field I can 100% say that patients are definitely treated based upon their socioeconomic status and RACE - there are doctors and nurses that are great and want to truly help everyone but they are definitely a large number of doctors and nurses that only care about money and are racist AF sad smh
Most people though have insurance, no one goes to the hospital and pays out of pocket so I’m curious why would their be a economic bias when most who see a doctor are paying through their insurance regardless of social class? Do you mean if someone has private insurance vs Medicare or Medicaid?
@@chuckie102883 There's definitely a difference. For example, the point Amanda brought up about having an advocate is very true. Wealthier patients tend to have advocates and lawyers who work in their best interests. Therefore, medical professionals who serve them tend to provide better care. There are many other subtle examples where socioeconomic status plays a large factor in the care that patients receive.
UniquelyMade actually Millions of people do Not have insurance which is why the government penalizes them during taxes for not having it-which is also why democratic presidential candidates primarily talk about Universal Health Care - so yes people do pay out of pocket a couple hundred $& for visits & get billed after their visits/stays and then the hospitals’ billing department will harass that patient/person until they get as much money as possible so Yes when someone has good private insurance they are treated significantly better than someone with government insurance or no insurance at all
When a patient come in with chest pain, shortness of breath, weakness in one side of the body, dropping face on one side, etc high temp for more than 3 days are the first on priority list. This is called triage. Everyone else who got in the ER before her should have waited. Im saddened.
My dad had trouble walking and it worsened throughout the days, he was in so much pain in his feet. He was diabetic and had kidney failure (and many other illnesses) so we weren't sure what was the cause. We didn't call the ambulance. Instead, we hired a private transportation company (which was cheaper) to carry him downstairs since we lived on third floor apartment with no elevators. We waited in the ER waiting room for 6 hours before they called us in. It was exhausting waiting! Now I know just to call 911 so they take you in immediately.
Happened to my uncle he just went in to the er in the morning saying he felt numbness in his left arm. Gave him an appointment for 5 months later. He went home had dinner with his kids and wife. The chest pain began and so he went to another hospital they told him to wait and he dropped dead in the reception........
Ummm am I the only who thinks this wasn’t a black thing? ER’s always have long waiting times and I don’t think the professionals were aware of the severity of this woman’s situation despite the X-ray. PS I understand the statistics about black women being less of a priority.
Chanel Wafuana I’m aware of that. I’m speaking of this specific case. The doctor could’ve very well thought she had a condition that could’ve waited. We really don’t know. Everybody in the ER wants to be seen, there’s more factors.
It was a black thing. Chest pain is of the highest priority in the ER. Those patients go in first. Statistics prove that black women get taken less seriously for medical reasons.
Chest pain, chest tightness, and shortness of breath can be indicators of heart attack and/or approaching cardiac arrest. It’s the upmost priority in the ER. The health professionals were aware of the implications of a long wait time and did not act accordingly.
HAUS OF AARON This woman had SOB and chest pain, bad combination therefore an ECG, ECHO, and blood work SHOULD have been performed to detect any cardiac issues and provide a better diagnosis. Her death was due to negligence
This is what turns me off to certain politicians who say a universal Medicare for All type coverage cost too much but we find money for wars based on lies and tax cuts for rich people and corporations. Vote wisely.
It’s cause it doesn’t work. People wait months for procedures, situations like this would be exponentially more common because people would not get care in time
C Mac if it doesn't work why do American hospitals kill more people than other countries with Medicare for all? America has the highest maternal mortality rate for first world countries. When it comes to quality we rank last in everything except drugs and palliative care. Meaning we are good at keeping people that are on their deathbed alive. What's wrong with longer wait times if it means people actually live. And are Americans so stupid that we can't innovate a way to get better wait times while servicing everyone. Are we that limited as a country that we can never progress. We pay the most for healthcare and have the worst results. That is a fact. Look it up.
As a Biology major, i'm aware that there are tons of issues in the medical field. There needs to be laws set in place and a protocol. The only logical explanation that I would have would be they didn't take her symptoms seriously. if they said her results wouldn't be back for a few hours there could be a few scenarios involved. clearly someone at that hospital messed up. I am aware of people of color speaking out about how they've been treated in hospitals. I am disappointed that there are concerns of her death linked to race and bias. its disgusting to think about... we have to do better
If you do research you will see there is alot of information out there about race vs. medical treatment. She was in the hospital for 4 hrs and had known heart issues.
I had a heart condition since birth. I am totally fine now but I remember when I went to ER for chest pain in my 20s and lady at front desk said that I’m too young to be having chest pain. What?!?
I’ve worked in the emergency room before, there’s a protocol to follow. Unless you’re bleeding or got wound shot, you’re on the queue to be seen. She was seen and examined, but she left due to the wait. The emergency room is usually staffed with only one physician. The emergency dept are usually just staffed with nurses and medical assistants, so they’re all waiting on that one doctor to evaluate and run diagnostics. That being said, what happened to her was very. What happened to that woman was indeed tragic, but I don’t think the lack of care was due to her race. The healthcare,/ hospital systems need drastic improvements, though.
Exactly, that's the part they keep leaving out the story. She was admitted and examined before she left. She was waiting for treatment. However, I definitely agree that there needs to be more than one physician in the ER so cases like this don't continue to happen.
I think so too . I work in low income country and poor staffing is very common. But I am surprised this is happening in US where the health system is supposed to be stronger 🤔
I live in Milwaukee Wi and went to the same emergency room complaining of stomach pain, after a 5 hr wait I was finally seen just to be told that I may have gall stones and to follow up with my Primary Dr with no scans taken. Just to find out a couple months later during a surgery that the pain wasn’t gall stones but a partial bowel obstruction that would have been found if they took the time to look further into it.... I pray for her Family. This really saddens me.....
I’m currently in college and I’m majoring in nursing. I cannot imagine a person in pain, asking me for help and attention and then I do not do anything. I will do anything to help, no matter how busy I am. My heart could not take it if my negligence caused a person to die.
I had a miscarriage. I went to the ER the nurses told me to wait outside because I was leaving blood on the Er floor. I was outside the Er bleeding out. Passed out a couple times. Took me inside and told me to grab paper towels put them on the floor so I wouldn’t leave blood on the floor. I ended up miscarrying. The Rn told me if I was in 20 min sooner they could have saved my child. I was there for over an hr waiting outside bleeding out. Outside their hospital!!!
Once a miscarriage is beginning it cant be stopped.. im sorry you are misinformed... if all miscarriages were like that no one would be losing their baby
I've gone through this twice in my life. The first time I was pregnant and I came to the hospital because of cramping, felt very lightheaded, and couldn't catch my breathe...it was the most excruciating pain I ever experienced and they had me sit and wait for 2.5hrs...by the time my name was called to take me back to a room, I miscarried right in the waiting room...meanwhile the ppl at the hospital allowed multiple ppl(non-black) to go ahead of me...including another woman of a different race(she came in 90 mins after I did) for cracked heels and a headache...went straight from triage to a room in a matter of 20 mins...smh...Im truly sorry to hear that woman passed away. I'm praying for that young woman's family.🙏🙏🙏🙏 I absolutely CAN'T STAND that black woman are treated like this.
@@ertfgghhhh thank you. It was the worst experience of my life. Unfortunately since that moment I've had 2 other miscarriages and still dealing with some health issues from those experiences...I had a lot of growing to do as a woman to move past that and learn my self worth. I'm in my 30s now and I'm debating if I even want a baby anymore. 🤷♀️ Its terrifying to trust hospitals/doctors/nurses...especially during a racially charged time like this and everyone has their own agenda. I still have a lot to think about.
Im so sorry for your loss. When I wasnt pregnant, nobody ever went in front of me. When I was I had like 3 people who checked in later, go ahead of me for minor things.. I had a bad migraine & felt super faint. Its bullshit
@@lexibrandi3355 wow I'm sorry to hear that. I'll never understand some people's negligence...especially when our lives are LITERALLY in the doctor/nurses hands...all those years of school and training...I'm like what are the so called protocols and priorities...I'll never understand
Still doesn't give them an excuse to turn her away or have her waiting for 2 hours in the ER to be seen by a doctor, and especially chest pain and shortness of breath.
I side eye nurses in the ER, from my experience they’re usually young and inexperienced and just don’t have the empathy...they sit there on their phones waiting to be relieved
I don't know if that's a race issue, rather it's a medical system problem world wide! U need to be dying to get the doctors attention in North America including Canada to say the least! If u ain't dying they don't look at your issue seriously!
@z unfortunately in the US it's a race issue, there are plenty of documentaries and empirical research that's been done proving Blacks are repeatedly discriminated against & misdiagnosed in hospitals.😔
@@OraclesoftheWest no the difference is, america just likes to call it race issue instead of class issues because everything is about race and fake oppression in America. People in America are highly privileged to the rest of human civilization, yet tend to complain about fake oppressions.
@@OraclesoftheWest most blacks are in the lower wage side in America, how do we know it's not an class issue? Oh because America has made an obsession with race so they don't overlook the class issues.
@@eliza1826 lol I'm not going to argue because facts trumps opinions (no pun intended) but I'll just put this out there for you to mole over, what about Serena Williams & Beyonce? Both women had similar experiences of mistreatment in hospitals that mirror experiences of so-called "low wage" Blacks. You don't even have to do much research just RUclips it lol
@@diamondstarr6677 They never take our pain seriously. White doctors and scientists used to do experiments on us because they believed that we were unable to feel pain. 😡
As someone that works in healthcare, I know that The ER has to triage people. If you can walk and talk and are not hemorrhaging you are not at the top of the the list. If I go to the ER I expect to wait hours unless it not a busy day at the ER.
I’m a LPN at a heart hospital and chest pain patients do not wait. No matter how full we are we move non critical patient to day floor if we have to it’s that serious.
The first thing that pisses me off is that she waited 2 hours , got an X-Ray then 6 more hours to actually be seen. Why couldn’t she just be seen during that time???😒
It's so true. I went to the ER with extreme pain in my leg. They took an ultra sound and x-ray and it showed nothing. The doctor was going to send me home assuming I just had a sprain. I insisted that I've had sprains before it was very different pain. Because I insisted he had another doctor take a look at me and come to find out I had compartment syndrome --a very severe vascular issue. I could have lost all functionality in my leg or even had to have my leg amputated if I had just gone home. You don't have to accept a doctor's diagnosis and pay attention to your body. If your body is telling you something is wrong and doctor is saying it isn't, you hav every right to ask for another doctor, and ask for them to confirm their diagnosis with additional tests. Also remember this, doctors are imperfect beings just like the rest of us and can make mistakes. They are not infaliable and your life is too precious to just accept anything that anyone tells you- double check them and make certain they double check themselves.
She really shouldn't have left. Usually, results have to be sent off to labs or specialists at other sites, so it takes longer than you think unfortunately.
@@thriftytashi429 Very sad. Especially given that there is much data that shows women are taken less seriously by healthcare providers when they come in for the same symptoms as men. It is very easy for providers to just blow their symptoms off as exaggeration or PMS
@@JenJHayden Karma? Not sure what I said that was so wrong and offensive to you. Sounds like karma will repay you in full for being a troll. To answer your question: I think she left because she was tired of waiting in the ER bed to receive treatment to alleviate her symptoms. It is not like she was stuck in the waiting room the whole time. She was taken back and examined for the chest pain, but results and treatment plans can take a while to be analyzed, which sucks if you are in pain. It is easy to get impatient and leave, but that is how most ER work. And thanks for calling me a genius, I try to work hard :)
@@salias.363 Please research what karma means. Not sure how you could be offended by that. Anyway, that was not why she left. You say she should not have left? It would be nice if people like you would learn about the story and not just a 5 min clip.
Emergency room ignored my cries for intense migraines.. They would tell me it's caused from the Fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia can cause headaches but not these. After 7 visits to ER I had to be the Best and demand some kind of scan. Sure enough I had degenerative disc disease in 3 discs of my neck triggering 18 migraines a month. You HAVE to stick up for yourself.
Chest pain is ALWAYS seen as a priority in emergency rooms. For that hospital to treat her this way is disgusting and they should be held accountable for what happened to her. Absolutely unacceptable.
This happens to alot of the minorities not just black people. Black people tend to raise their voice often which is good on them but it seriously happens to all minorities ( hispanics, Pakistani, bangali, indian, chinese etc)
We need to keep in mind that doctors aren't the ones who decide what patient to check, the staff decides and many times the staff is over worked and under qualified. The issue isn't the people who work there crazy amount of hours trying to help others, the real issue is this messed up healthcare system
Tracey Tracey Registered Nurse here. Many people use the ED as their primary care because they can’t afford insurance or don’t have adequate insurance. I saw it a lot when I was working in the hospital, and the demographic was very diverse. This is why we need better healthcare in this country.
This is very true. I was having terrible pelvic and stomach pain. I was overlooked and disregarded until I joined a Facebook support group that urged me to request specific tests. The doctor I was seeing was livid and offended, however obliged. I was finally diagnosed with a pelvic kidney that is only functioning at 20%. Advocate for yourself! Advocate, advocate, advocate. And bring someone else along with you to advocate. Give that doctor/ specialist an audience to hold them accountable. Also, continue to do your research and do not be afraid to refuse invade or otherwise unnecessary testing and procedures.
The saddest thing is, is that 2 hours where I live seems like a short wait unfortunately. & The worst is when they tell you to just take ibuprofen and send you home with an 800 dollar bill smh
My best friend took her sick kids to the doctor's office and experienced similar discrimination. Two of her kids are blonde hair, blue eyed and were given all of the proper tests to determine they had strep throat. Her mixed child was only given one test and was dismissed as having a cold. When in actuality he had the flu -_-
@@traceytracey3756 he is mixed as in white and black. And I don't care if you dont believe the story or not. It is real. My friend lives in Wisconsin in a dominantly white area, so that kind of discrimination makes sense there
I have experienced this in the ER. They don’t take you seriously and they take their sweet time to see you. I have been told that i have to wait for the next doctor because they were changing shifts. But they are quick to ask you for your insurance. SAD!!!!
It's not just one race that is going through this , this happens to the majority of people who go into hospital. Race doesn't come into the ability of doctors and nurses trying to treat everyone.
That1_mel no not everything. But this particular topic, yes. WOC are notoriously under treated, misdiagnosed and die because of bias. There are multiple studies out there on the matter. Do the research and then ask yourself why it’s making you so uncomfortable when they bring up injustice in the Black community.
I'm sorry but it's a FACT and I witness this everyday in the ER that BLACK ppl get treated far worse than any other race when it comes to emergency medical needs!
Suriya Shazadi Race has absolutely everything to do about this. Look at the rates of black women dying during child birth. We are never taken seriously even when we exclaim that we are in a great amount of pain. Imagine if this woman was white, I doubt this would’ve happened.
First of all any pregnant woman who comes into the the ER needs to be accessed immediately no matter what’s going on. Secondly, chest pain and breathing trouble should be treated immediately without question. If I’m at the ER for something and a person comes in with chest pain’s then by all means help them before you help me!
Because of the treatment of black women within the medical community, my daughter and I almost died during my labor with her. The staff rushed my birth. My birth plan was ignored. The experience was so traumatic that I lied on my back silently as I could feel the doctor stitch me back together. I resented the birth, I lost trust in the medical industry, and I suffered with postpartum depression.
She didn't say be prioritized. Nobody said that. Do you know what prioritizing is?That is not what this is about. It's about doctors and nurses not downplaying a patient's pain and suffering and medical condition just because that patient is black. It happens a lot, even to black children. It has even happened to me, but I advocated for myself. And, it IS rooted in race and bias. How would you like it if your pain wasn't adequately treated because you had a doctor who truly believed that you didn't feel as much pain as a white person? Or what about if your complaints weren't taken seriously because you had a doctor who thought all black women were drama queens and that you were just trying to get treated sooner? THAT is the kind of bias that Loni and the ladies were talking about. Furthermore, if you're not black, you don't have any business commenting on this, because you don't know what you're talking about.
@@beastlysoldierful Did you purposely miss the everything she wrote in order to focus on one thing that you can criticize? And you even misinterpreted that. How sad.
@@RosalindGash first of all, u need to calm down. Second, i'm sorry that happened to u. It shouldn't happen to anyone, regardless of race, religion or whatever. Third, i was explaining about triage. The system works if implemented correctly. And lony did say, there should be a law protecting women, ESPECIALLY black women. How's that making things better? Finally, i wish u and ur family well and never experience what u have had in past ever again.
This is literally the best topic that I've heard the ladies on The Real speak on in a long time. My great-aunt was in a rehabilitation center after falling and breaking her hip. The nurse who was supposed to be taking care of her in this facility burnt her foot with hot water. Due to that, she caught an infection which spread and resulted in both of her legs getting amputated. Then she had to get a colostomy bag so she could go to the bathroom since both of her legs were amputated. When the doctors reversed the bag they messed up and there was a hole and her stool leaked on her bowls until she died. Speaking of black women having higher health risks giving birth, my third cousin in law had a brain aneurism right after she gave birth.
A friend of mines kid father went to the hospital 2 weeks ago after a car wreck. They didn’t treat him after claiming chest pains. they released him and while driving home he had a seizure, wrecked, and died. This is just sad af and happens a lot.
this just reminds me of my bff who passed a way last yr back in 2019 in April on my sis bday. she was having problems in her stomach and they were just dragging their feet. they kept giving her pain pills instead of fixing the problem. they just sent her home to die. i am still dealing with her death. smh.
I have a Chronic Pain Condition called Sickle Cell Disease. I've been experiencing this & my mother and I have been saying that this was going to happen! My mom is experiencing near-Panic Attacks the longer we have to sit & wait because I had a younger sibling who passed away from the same disease I suffer from. It's truly ridiculous what's going on in hospital Ears now. Like, it's the EMERGENCY ROOM! It's not a place you go to sit & wait for literally HOURS! It's terrifying for me to know, this horrendous pain is occurring because my blood vessels to various parts of my body are blocked, not receiving oxygen, & dying off as I sit in your waiting room & there's literally NOTHING I can do about it & the people who can, are content for me to sit here while it's happening! The pain is breath-taking & the key to alleviating it & deaths of parts of my body are on the other side of the Waiting Room Door, but may as well be in Siberia for all the help they're giving. That one day, the wait will have been too long & my organs are shutting down, & now the process is irreversible and I can no longer be helped. Just made "comfortable" until my body gives up. Comfortable. The last time I saw my sibling alive, there was so much pain, the entire body was trembling with it! And I, as a black woman, will(& do) have my pain ignored & under-estimated by the very people whose job it is to listen & help treat me.
*ERs not ears. Stupid auto-correct. I'd actually put ERs in & didn't realize til I was reading that the a-c had subbed it out for ears. Stupid technology.
I am a WHITE woman and I had a heart attack while sitting in an Emergency Room for over 3 hrs....they didn't give me attention until my sister went back to the registration area screaming
Same. I waited for 3 hours to be seen for chest pains and it hurt to breathe. When they brought me back, the doctor told me he was concerned I had a blood clot in my heart. I sat in a hospital bed hooked up to a monitor for another 5 hours before they took xrays, and then eventually he came back and told me it was just a strained chest muscle from coughing so much. I had bronchitis. In general, these hospitals need to do better. That's why i go to Urgent Care instead now. Im in and out within 2 hours and they do everything to make sure I leave in better condition than I came.
Oh yeah but you're white so your experience won't be counted sorry. You have to be at least a caramel shade or darker to qualify for the victim olympics.
Unfortunately a long wait in an Emergency Room is very common and almost rarely has nothing to do with race. I was bleeding from my head and had a concussion and still waited for two hours. This woman should NOT HAVE LEFT the emergency room.! Its not that its not seen as serious, its that there are so many people who have been waiting too
That's not correct. There is evidence that shows that black women not only are most likely to die during child birth but also are least likely to be given medication for pain
MATE! Y’all don’t know Britain’s accident and emergency room. I was there with my sister, she had popped her knee and there was a white guy sat away from us in his approx 40s. He looked like he has a spear wound to the head. His head was cracked, there was blood all over his hand and jeans. We sat there for 6 hours waiting for a doctor and so did the guy! Someone gave him a towel to hold near his head and that was it - prob so he wouldn’t bleed out on the floor. 6 hours man was not seen. Finally he got seen just before us. That’s uk service. White black or whatever you get seen when your seen!
LEONA BUNDY UK healthcare system is completely different to the US. It’s funded by the government and our taxes. It’s been underfunded for almost two decades now, one nurse does the job of something like four nurses ect. Guess which department have had the most cuts? ER and maternity.
@@xXxmissemmaxXx I understand that. Its not that different from the UK. NHS (what you guys i think would have called that Obama care) has had major cuts - same funding sources. Hence the long wait times for anything.
I went to the urgent care one time for what I knew was a broken rib. I had been playing with my 3 year old son on the floor when I turned over on my stomach and acted as if I was sleeping and he bounced on my upper back and my husband and myself heard the snap! I knew it was broken! They told me I probably pulled a muscle and refused to do an X-ray and prescribed me muscle relaxers. I left that office and immediately went to my local ER where an X-ray was done and the doctor confirmed my rib was broken and was concerned that it had affected my lungs. Thankfully it didn’t but they were so worried about me they got me in and treated quickly. I called the urgent care back the next day to tell them about it and I gave them a piece of my mind. That nurse no longer works at that urgent care.
The fact that almost everyone in the comment section has a horror story to share regarding their experience with medical care should tell us something. Even people who work in healthcare wouldn’t go to the emergency room.
Correct! Urgent care only for me. Why? Because they listen and give me what I need. Shout out to the Nurse Practitioners at the urgent care. Very thorough!
That same thing happens all to often in Orangeburg, SC hospital. My husband went to the hospital in severe pain from his chronic illness and the er nurse told him "I know how you people are, you only want pain medication"....he had be to hospitalized for 5 days because of his illness. The health-care system is all about money and then stereo type a lot of people in the black community... I've seen it time and time again
After working in an er for over 7 years they have gotten more and more crowded! On top of that the healthcare system is jacked up period! Healthcare personnel are either burned out or do not simply care. What patients have to understand is that emergency rooms are designated for emergencies. A toothache is not an emergency. A cold is not an emergency. People abuse the emergency room and use it as a primary care doctor. Its so bad that some insurance companies. will not pay for er visits if not deemed an emergency. We see well over 200-500 people a day with probably more. With overcrowding it makes it difficult to properly care for patients because there are not enough nurses and doctors.
No one will understand it if they don’t work in the medical field. It’s gotten insane and people even abuse the 911 system for non emergent stuff, meanwhile you a hear a pediatric call go out that is in cardiac arrest and you can’t go because you’re stuck taking care of a drunk. There needs to be something done. I see these urgent cares are, for the most part, empty.
When I was 18, I was having horrible back pain, couldn’t and was sent home with the doctors saying I was just on my feet too much. Later that night my dad took me back furious because I was screaming in my sleep. There was a tumor on my spine.
One of my high school peers was a young black woman only in her early 20s she enlisted into the navy. One day she started feeling sick on the ship she was on the medics saw her and said nothing was wrong and sent her on her way. Later that night she went into cardiac arrest and passed away.
a family member of mine had chest pains, we were in the waiting room at the local doctors office, for 2 hrs and then got in and the doc was like "um youre having a heart attack" and called 911. the nurses at the front had no clue...
Well no because you need an EKG and some nurses can’t read EKGs. Sometimes you can’t see a heart attack happening in an EKG and you need blood work to determine that.
@@jrodd05 well no, because they had chest pains. Every nurse knows that chest pain is a priority in the ER and it follows a specific protocol of medications that increase blood flow and oxygen to the heart, and a 12 lead EKG, all completed within 10 minutes. These nurses are just incompetent , because all this can even be done in the waiting room if you say there are no beds.
Keke Lauren there are criteria that must be followed in order to perform an EKG on someone. You can have chest pain if you’re having a panic attack with shortness of breath. It could’ve also been a PE but it’s all based off on vitals and how she is presenting. She also left against medical advice so there’s that
@@jrodd05 you do not "perform" an EKG, you hook the patient up to 12 lead and an monitor or telemetry which is all apart of the chest pain protocol. Protocol, meaning that there are standing orders already in place for the symptoms this patient was presenting, as she ultimately ended up dying from myocardial ischemia.
I think it all boils down to lack of compassion and just getting a paycheck. Some people in the healthcare field do not give a damn about helping others. I don’t care how busy I am, if someone needs help I will help them!
As a black woman living in Canada. You come in with chest pain you are a PRIORITY! At least when you are elderly. But then again I adovacted on my moms behalf and went with her to all doctors appointments and made notes in front of doctors and nurses faces asking for their names so they know not to bother FUCKING with me or my MOM. Because I am watching!
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chest pain is of the highest priority in the ER. you gotta be kidding me.
Exactly. Something like This happened in my hometown where a woman was having an asthma attack and they disregarded her and made her sit in the waiting room where she passed away
@@Michele-bm1zu absolutely true. omg spot on.
Right this is the first time I've heard they take this long to see somebody with this kinda issue
I agree! Like wtf? Chest pain is of high priority. These medical professionals from that ER should be educated about the mnemonic C.A.B.
@@Michele-bm1zu nurses do all the work and doctors get all the credit. They show up to catch the baby. Same with paralegals and teacher assistants.
So messed up! Everyone knows chest pain trumps many other “emergencies” and is seen as priority.
I work in the er. With chest pain complaints the protocol is to do an ekg immediately. Also blood work and chest xray. If those results are normal and your vital signs are stable you usually are deemed stable enough to wait for an available room. If she chose to leave there is usually a form given to the patient stating they are choosing to leave against medical advice.
True but I've actually witnessed people pretending to be have chest pain, so they can be seen before people who are really seriously ill.
Kelly M I thought so too!
@Tasheri That is not smart. It's selfish and dangerous because you are putting people's lives at risk who are having a heart attack or other medical emergency.
I’m a nurse and when someone complains of chest pain,shortness of breath,pain in the arm that’s triage priority.it matters not what color,race,or male,or female.as a nurse chest pain means maybe heart attack.so I’m rushing that patient back and grabbing a doctor!
Unfortunately, you HAVE to advocate for yourself EVERY time you go to get medical care. Never assume someone else is watching out for your best interests.
It's difficult to advocate when one sick and alone. Some people arrive unconscious or drugged with pain killers before entering the hospital setting. The laws need to lean more toward the side of the patient and hold the medical professionals responsible for disregarding their own protocol and not administering the same level of care to all patients.
Women in general, especially black women are subjected to racial bias-ness in pain assessments and treatment. This has been statistically proven by PNAS. Black women are dying not because of their lack of advocacy on their pain, but because of their skin color.
@@malv8208 It is so aggravating as a woman having medical concerns not be taken seriously. I've personally had to fight for medical care many times. I can't imagine the further bias black women face. The studies prove what we already know.
I just dont understand “EMERGENCY ROOM” not treating cases as emergencies!? I hope her family has a law suit in the works
Same thing happened with my sister. They sent her home. She was rushed back to the hospital a day later, died of cardiac arrest. She had pneumonia. Smh
Am so sorry for your lost. I really hate that things like this happens
I'm so sorry that happened. Prayers for you and your loved ones🙏🙏🙏
Wow! I'm so sorry for your loss. I have pneumonia now.
my heart goes out to you and your family
Sorry for your loss
Sadly I’ve experienced this I had a miscarriage and I was in horrible pain and the nurse who was treating me in the ER told me I was complaining and it wasn’t that bad. Broke my heart she was so mean to me. This is horrible we need to stand up and change this.
I am so sorry. No one can tell another person how bad their pain is. Completely uncalled for not only unprofessional but inhumane.
Jessica White thank you. Right you’re supposed to help all in need not just who you decide to help.
I am so sorry girl
Didi Nkwocha thank you I appreciate at
lisa p thank you. Labor pains are painful 😣
I am Mexican and my husband is Asian, our son looks more Asian, years back I took my son to the ER because he wasn’t breathing right, they told me that he was fine without even checking his oxygen level. I went back home and my son started turning blue so I called an ambulance and he was admitted to the intensive care unit for 10 days, they saw that his lungs were smaller than normal and he had severe Asthma, his lungs were getting tired of trying so hard to work that they had shut down and he was using a machine to help him breathe for him. After this incident I’ve taken him to the ER several times for the same reasons and they ALWAYS want to send me home without even checking his oxygen levels so I always tell them to check his history! His background! And I refuse to leave till they check his oxygen and when they do they always connect him to oxygen because his oxygen levels are really low. I hate that they always see me and automatically think that I’m exaggerating the situation and I’m lying or they just don’t care.
Miriam Myrsiades God bless you
The need to properly vet these medical professionals. Compassion and bed-side manner is sorely lacking in most hospitals. Add to that a racist mentality and personal biases, and the hospital can be environments of hostility and apathy.
Im so sorry.
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We need more people who look like us in the medical field
My experience with "us" is they do not treat us any better because they all learn the same system. I found that people with the title Dr. think they are gods and no one can tell them anything. Many drs come off as all knowing and angry if patients asks questions or advocates for proper care of oneself or a family member.
@@Miss-Ann-Thrope I agree. Black people in hospitals just look so angry within my experience and no type of bedside manner.
Okay apply to medical school?
I gotchu sis ♥️ #futuremd
Carly M if I had the skills it took to be in that field, and if I enjoyed taking care of sick people I would, but I’m not that person.
I always tell my patient's "No one knows your body better than you" if something goes wrong u r the 1st to know about it. If u feel like something is wrong it probably is.
Sofie Rawls Exactly. Drs dont know everything and people need to stop thinking that they do.
WORD! That's why im leaving healthcare now. I came on board to care not hurt.
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When I was pregnant, I was having these pains that had me on the floor in agony. I went to the hospital, in tears, and they told me it was just gas. Gave me 2 regular Tylenol and sent me home. I kept on having these pains throughout my pregnancy, but would just pop some Tylenol and power through it. After I gave birth, I got fed up and went to the ER again. Turns out my gallbladder was full of sludge and stones. Had surgery the next day. People always wanna downplay other people’s suffering.
Title: ER waiting rooms are the new morgues.
My neighbor went to the emergency room where he died on the floor right in front of a lot of patients, in front of the check in window. They revived him, put him in a wheelchair where he sat in the waiting area only to have another heart attack moments later which fatally killed him in front of everyone in the waiting room. RIP Ron.
WHAT DO YOU DO omg that’s tragic. I’m so sorry to hear that 💖
WTF???!
Oh! My God that is so sad.. Rest in Peace Ray.. NO MORE SICKNESS OR PAIN
God bless him and his family... smh!
I don’t understand why many people don’t demand governments to put more budget in healthcare. It’s a shame that this has to happen to so many people. Especially in the US, how can that happen in such a rich country. That is beyond my comprehension.
I remember a doctor saying straight up he's bias and would believe his white pts saying they're in pain before a black pt. I wonder where the "opium crisis" came from? My parents friend lost her son bc they didn't believe him when he said he was sick. He went to the ER three times! They thought since he was black he must be on drugs. His mother was a nurse, she drove him an hour to a bigger hospital, turned out he was in the last stages of meningitis. He died and she sued the hospital that turned him away. I will say this when hospitals KNOW they're wrong, they settle out of court. If you're a black person of means, hospitals will be on their Ps and Qs. It really helps to have a nurse that will ADVOCATE for you and check their bias. Above all these hospitals are understaffed and the employees are stressed out! If you work in a hospital, you understand what I'm saying!
Aw tamera sounded like she was about to cry 😢
No, she sounded *pissed*.
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Fake tears.
Rosalind Gash that too it’s ridiculous
@@traceytracey3756 With this kind of story, you are concerned about fake tears that shows u have no empathy you must be a mean and stupid person
No sir in our hospital chest pain does not wait!!! Two hours that’s ridiculous and the statistics on black women’s treatment does not lie
Can you provide the statistics? I would really like to learn more about this
Chanel Wafuana true OP has nothing to prove. But, if we want awareness about this issue to be spread. People need to start providing links.
Chanel Wafuana- He didn’t ask for her to prove anything. He asked her to provide stats so he could learn more about it. Smh.
@@dontneedtoknow8330 google.com . why ask a random stranger when you have the same internet access they do. it's not about being rude, it's about encouraging people seek information themselves. the world is so misguided because people depend on others to educate them. if you are competent enough to ask, you are competent enough to do it yourself.
@@neverendingstory9954 Bro could literally search that up real quick. If you're really interested take the time to search it up.
This happened to me at 3 different ERs. I was knocking on death’s door almost 2 years ago. I was 20 years old, not even pregnant. My birth control gave me a pulmonary embolism. I had a less severe but similar pain a year before and my gyno just switched my BC and didn’t ask any more questions. When i was 20 i was visiting a firm for a couple days and almost collapsed at dinner. I was rushed to the ER. Afters days of being undiagnosed in and out several ERs with my mom, they misdiagnosed me with pneumonia. A week after taking strong painkillers, shortness of breath, abdominal and back pain, barely being able to love around, i went to my primary care doctor. HE FINALLY LISTENS TO ME. Orders a CT scan stat, tells me thats the first thing everyone should have done, and i find out it was a PE the whole time. I spent two days in the hospital on blood thinners and 3 months on thinners after. Even my CVS pharmacist was concerned she had given me so many prescriptions within that week. I was written 6 different prescriptions.
This almost took my life before i began to thrive. I gained internship opportunities at the biggest companies in the world in my field, i became president of a student org, and i am so happy to say i’m one semester away from earning my B.A. in Accountancy at the University of Mississippi. I gained everything i am proud of today after that awful experience. Its traumatizing and i have high skepticism with doctors now
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Well done for your achievements and we thank God he spared your life.
Yes birth control effect women health and you are more prone to diseases and yeast infection being on birth control. It’s hindering your body natural ability to heal and get rid of bad bacteria.
What kind of birth control were you on?
I'm glad you're still with us sis
I swear to God this just happened to me I want to doctor complaining about my breast he pretty much ignored it I went to another doctor and I have stage4 breast cancer.
Currently I am going after him for that!!
Hope you get every penny available from his malpractice policy!
I am sorry to hear about the stage 4 cancer.
@@drkaryeroe Thank you. I'm at a very scary point in my life right now and I can't believe he didn't treat me
@@bree_amputee Why did you wait so long? If you had a mammogram annually, this would have been present. He wouldn't have been able to treat you in an ER or his office. Stage 4 means that it has matastitise to your vital organs.
@@traceytracey3756 she doesn't need our judgement. She needs our support, for crying out loud, she is a human being.
“There’s a certain culture of how to handle yourself in healthcare...” this is so true. In addition to what Amanda is saying, come to your doctor’s office prepared! Know your medical history, know your medicines, know your symptoms, be able to describe them, and know the timeline!
THIS!!!!
Doctors are literally trained that black people have thicker skin and less pain receptors. Preparation is a start, but we need more.
For me I have really bad anxiety so even if I know what's going on and I know my medical history in the car I may not be able to describe it to the doctor when in the hospital but that's my fault. It sucks but I just shut down because I don't feel like they're gonna take it seriously in the first place.
@@TraceyJean That is not true. They may have their own racist views but are not trained to think that way.
TheAZstrong bring a notebook with you’re history in it when you go to the dr
Chest pain and shortness of breath takes highest priority, every healthcare professional know this! What the F? Heart attack or PE will kill anyone in minutes! This is crazy.
I know, breathing issues are supposed to be treated first.
This was in Milwaukee? That's in Minnesota or Wisconsin. Predominantly white states. I can see them putting black and brown ppl on the back burner. The mother need to SUE, put them on high notice so this won't happen to another black woman. Sadly hers is gone before her time. What will make a hospital work harder at treating ppl right is to hit them in their pockets. It calls itself a "business" and it sees you as "customers". That woman lost her daughter, services were not provided in a timely fashion for a serious issue that takes precedence over everything else, she's beyond unsatisfied, compensation is in order! Lawyer up. She may not have her daughter but they will still send those EMS and ER bills.
@vayoha02 I'm from Milwaukee and it is in Wisconsin. The state is predominantly white but in the city of Milwaukee almost half of the population is black.
They won’t listen to us
Actual Wakandan I have gone multiple times to the ER for my husbands chest pain. He couldn’t breath, along with a huge migraine! They took 3 hours to see us. Even than said nothing was wrong with him and we kept going back. Until finally we went some where else.
This happened to my mom when I was 12. The hospital sent her home and about a week later she passed away. Now at 14 I have to live the rest of my life without a mother.
Megan Mendonca
Omg.. I’m truly sorry
So sorry for you loss. I hope you are being raised by a loving father or family member. Do you best to remember all she taught you and make her proud every day.
I lost dad at 9, that sucked and still does, suck ass
I'm so sorry to hear about your unfortunate loss.
Megan Mendonca Jesus, this made me tear up. 😢 Bless you and your whole family, I am so sorry for your loss. 😪❤️
My grandma had a TUMOR in her ear..she had to diagnose herself and force them to run tests ..they initially told her it was an ear infection but my gma KNEW that wasn't it
Ashlee Tyler what ended up happening with your grandma? Is she okay?!
This is why the last time I went I purposely fell right on out...they put me right through
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It’s a racial issue for SURE, but it’s also a capacity issue with the emergency room. I went in for ovary contortion and it took me 6 HOURS to be seen. That was a medical emergency. A lot comes back to health insurance and just accessibility
Yes
I’m SO sorry to hear that. I’m an ultrasound tech and let me tell you, you should have been priority because you only have a 6 hour window to save that ovary
Yes.. took us 6 hours in the waiting room as well. It's really packed at our local hospital every day.
it's staffing issues if you really want to know. Most of the times, we don't have enough staff (nurses) to open up more rooms in the ER.
princessbabe1313 it’s not a race issue at all
My healthy grandmother who was mentally capable, walked on her own and could carry out a conversation with ease had a brand aneurysm last year. Doctors stated that it was operational but due to her age, recovery could be complicated. They refused to do the operation. Her sons (my uncles) fought for this to happen and the doctors still refused. They took her off of life support and she breathed on her own for a week before she passed. Something was not right about the whole case! This occurred in Miami.
A month later, her older daughter (65yo), my aunt had a asthma attack that lead to lung failure. She was on life support for almost a month in Alabama. They did a C scan and stated that her brain was normal. They stated that her lungs were improving and eventually wanted to take her off of life support. When they tried to wake her up, she tried to open her eyes but couldn’t. They did multiple c scans and stated that they couldn’t understand why she wouldn’t wake up. My family and I felt that they overly sedated her. Finally they brought in a specialist who looked at her and said she was “brain dead” even though the tests said differently. They went to take her off of life support and she went on her own before they removed the device. Her daughter stated that blood was coming out of her mouth. This again does not seem right.
People do not always trust one doctor opinion, get a second recommendation always!
I had this happen in the netherlands. I was pregnant with my second child. I had been vomiting for over 3 days non-stop and went to the gp. Sadly my gp was sick and there was another one. He told me that he wouldn't check my vital symptoms eventhough my Caucasian husband pleaded. Said go home and try drinking more water. Less than 7 hours later I had to be put on ivy fluids at the hospital. Turns out I had hyperemesis gravidarum.
We went back to our gp and he apologized and said he had seen my electronic folder from the hospital. And had made sure the other doctor would be given an official warning due to negligence. So sadly it isn't only black women in America.
It's not only black women in America. Medical aparthied happens all over the world and black people, esp black women are the ones who suffer the most.
ER are often overcrowded and understaffed. I would also advocate for going to see the Primary Care Physician at least on an annual basis. It’s true that there is implicit bias when it comes to bw receiving medical treatments I’m sad she passed away.
It is horrific. 😓
Wow you use a sweeping generality like that it in itself is a racist comment !! The hospital I use is well equipped and staffed and the ER has overcrowding some times but no matter your color you are taken care of as a priority to your symptoms I am a heart patient and I’ve still sat for a couple hours waiting and I’m white so stop your racist bullshit
Tasheri No. That’s not what PCPs are for. Go throughout the year for check-ups. That way anything medical conditions which develop in the meantime could be caught before they become an emergency. 🙄
But the point is: the medical profession does not treat pain the same way across races.
Kripa n_n I know that.
I have so many story's I can tell about the unfair treatment with me. I shadow a certain ER in oklahoma. I was the only black young women in the DR. Section. We saw this one black lady and she told us her health history. When we got back to the station, he said" African American Females always lie about their health." I should have said something , but I didn't. I was so upset inside.
Isis Palmer it’s helpful if you leave this as a review
Lmao why would someone lie about their health??? Health records literally follow you throughout your life
That was his personal opinion, which was wrong. This will happen no matter what the subject. People will render their personal opinion.
U sound like you wont put up with that anymore thats wat matters.
Definitely should've put them in their place.
We have to keep advocating and educating... Never leave loved ones, friends alone in these facilities, if at all possible. It's so unfortunate when needs get ignored. So much takes place. Those with chronic conditions, the most vulnerable and elderly are impacted or ignored even more. Take notes, take names, video, ask for charge nurses, and those in supervisor roles. Even when they are under care. Find out meds being given. Ask questions. Hold these systems accountable..Do all necessary to see change take place and save loved ones lives
Exceptionally well-said.
I’m SO glad the women are discussing these types of topics! I’m in healthcare and black women are seen as Strong always. We smile through pain so when we say we’re hurting, be it stress, physical pain, or mental pain, people listen with their eyes and decide we must be fine 😞💔
I remember when I was 17 I burned my hand really bad with grease I went to emergency room with my hand literally was burned to the white meat I know it sounds gross and it is ! So basically they let me sit there for four hours shaking in pain and I have insurance
Jay'Rell 4Real I feel you on the burning your hand with grease. Same thing happened to me while being pregnant. My hand suffered from 2nd degrees burn. I didn’t go to the emergency care, because I didn’t want to wait 2-4 hours to be seen. I work in the emergency room, so I know the waiting is really tragic. Unless you’re bleeding or has gun shot, you’re on the queue to be seen.
Audrey L so sad! 😩 something has to give
A big dog bit through my arms and face and they left me sitting there looking (and feeling) like the walking dead. I yelled for attention and someone had the nerve to tell me to relax and calm down. Worst part is it was the person who was with me! So true that some would rather try to avoid a stigma instead of addressing the persistent medical negligence that exists.
Oooo damn how’s your hand
sickening.
I literally waited in the ER for 6 hours once and all I got was some damn Tylenol at the end and after my insurance was applied I was still charged $315. I went to the doctor the following week in Tijuana and was treated right away and they said that I had pneumonia. I got all the meds I needed and paid about $42 total.
@Aisha Aliexandra see a doctor, not the ER.
Wow that’s crazy
Wow... crazy. 🤯
I really understand why some people will get health care in a different country. because in some countries health care is just trash or expensive as hell.
Aisha Aliexandra girl pneumonia can get serious if untreated and even lead to life threatening complications and death. I would go see a doctor if I were you and if you have access to low cost health centers check them out too. The ER is a joke.
So true, some doctors get too comfortable and dismiss patients feelings and that’s an issue. You have a right to healthcare and you know your body more than anyone else. Always listen to it. I pray for that poor woman and her family. That hospital should’ve done better.
I remember when I broke my toe when I was 15. It obviously wasn’t that important. I was there in the emergency room and there was a woman who had a stroke. But they took me in before her and my injury wasn’t even that serious.
I live outside Milwaukee and know that hospital. People have no idea how segregated it is here.
Just wow.
I’m noticing they’re discussing more serious topics now that Amanda joined. I like this new tone 🙌🏿 thank you for bringing awareness to this case!!
I can turn to the medical shows, if I want serious. I hate this new set up. Now everything is going to be black this and black that. 😬
@@traceytracey3756 it is with this show, when every other race start to get fed up with this shxt, it will only be the black community left, meaning losing a lot of viewers.
My mother passed away a few weeks ago. When she went into the hospital, she was transported from home, and the EMTs were too incompetent to properly record her name. It took us more than FOUR HOURS to confirm that she was there and at first we were told that she was stable and expected to recover fully. Which didn't sound right with the diagnoses they were giving us: pneumonia and sepsis while intubated. Then we found out that at some point her heart had stopped for seven minutes. She was completely brain dead. For an entire week, around Christmas, we were led to believe that everything would eventually be ok.
What's worse is that when I had visited a week and a half before, I was alarmed at her breathing. When I asked her about it, she said she had talked to her doctor about it two days before and he said there was nothing to worry about. I, without a lick of medical training, could tell something was not right. Her doctor ignored it. Now she's dead.
I am not a POC. It is important to note that this is an issue of intersectionality. Women, POC and the poor all suffer from these issues of being ignored. It only becomes worse when any of these groups intersect.
As a nursing student someone coming into the hospital with shortness of breath and/or Chest pain is TOP PRIORITY!
Yes!! And the MONA protocol that can be done right in the waiting room if need be!
Coming from the perspective of someone who has worked in the medical field I can 100% say that patients are definitely treated based upon their socioeconomic status and RACE - there are doctors and nurses that are great and want to truly help everyone but they are definitely a large number of doctors and nurses that only care about money and are racist AF sad smh
Most people though have insurance, no one goes to the hospital and pays out of pocket so I’m curious why would their be a economic bias when most who see a doctor are paying through their insurance regardless of social class? Do you mean if someone has private insurance vs Medicare or Medicaid?
LoveKatt and gender. Women are known to be taken less seriously when they present with similar symptoms as men
@@chuckie102883 There's definitely a difference. For example, the point Amanda brought up about having an advocate is very true. Wealthier patients tend to have advocates and lawyers who work in their best interests. Therefore, medical professionals who serve them tend to provide better care. There are many other subtle examples where socioeconomic status plays a large factor in the care that patients receive.
UniquelyMade actually Millions of people do Not have insurance which is why the government penalizes them during taxes for not having it-which is also why democratic presidential candidates primarily talk about Universal Health Care - so yes people do pay out of pocket a couple hundred $& for visits & get billed after their visits/stays and then the hospitals’ billing department will harass that patient/person until they get as much money as possible so Yes when someone has good private insurance they are treated significantly better than someone with government insurance or no insurance at all
Salia S. Yes- especially women of color for sure 💯💯
When a patient come in with chest pain, shortness of breath, weakness in one side of the body, dropping face on one side, etc high temp for more than 3 days are the first on priority list. This is called triage. Everyone else who got in the ER before her should have waited. Im saddened.
My dad had trouble walking and it worsened throughout the days, he was in so much pain in his feet. He was diabetic and had kidney failure (and many other illnesses) so we weren't sure what was the cause. We didn't call the ambulance. Instead, we hired a private transportation company (which was cheaper) to carry him downstairs since we lived on third floor apartment with no elevators. We waited in the ER waiting room for 6 hours before they called us in. It was exhausting waiting! Now I know just to call 911 so they take you in immediately.
Happened to my uncle he just went in to the er in the morning saying he felt numbness in his left arm. Gave him an appointment for 5 months later. He went home had dinner with his kids and wife. The chest pain began and so he went to another hospital they told him to wait and he dropped dead in the reception........
Ummm am I the only who thinks this wasn’t a black thing? ER’s always have long waiting times and I don’t think the professionals were aware of the severity of this woman’s situation despite the X-ray. PS I understand the statistics about black women being less of a priority.
Chanel Wafuana I’m aware of that. I’m speaking of this specific case. The doctor could’ve very well thought she had a condition that could’ve waited. We really don’t know. Everybody in the ER wants to be seen, there’s more factors.
It was a black thing. Chest pain is of the highest priority in the ER. Those patients go in first. Statistics prove that black women get taken less seriously for medical reasons.
Chest pain, chest tightness, and shortness of breath can be indicators of heart attack and/or approaching cardiac arrest. It’s the upmost priority in the ER. The health professionals were aware of the implications of a long wait time and did not act accordingly.
They didn't take her seriously because of her age.
HAUS OF AARON This woman had SOB and chest pain, bad combination therefore an ECG, ECHO, and blood work SHOULD have been performed to detect any cardiac issues and provide a better diagnosis. Her death was due to negligence
This is what turns me off to certain politicians who say a universal Medicare for All type coverage cost too much but we find money for wars based on lies and tax cuts for rich people and corporations. Vote wisely.
poolover119 Steven Crowder is a know liar and an idiot. Please do your own research, the man is the video is extremely dishonest.
Yes!!!! We need to vote for Bernie, the only non-corrupt activist for human rights!
H A 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you’re crazy😂😂
It’s cause it doesn’t work. People wait months for procedures, situations like this would be exponentially more common because people would not get care in time
C Mac if it doesn't work why do American hospitals kill more people than other countries with Medicare for all? America has the highest maternal mortality rate for first world countries. When it comes to quality we rank last in everything except drugs and palliative care. Meaning we are good at keeping people that are on their deathbed alive. What's wrong with longer wait times if it means people actually live. And are Americans so stupid that we can't innovate a way to get better wait times while servicing everyone. Are we that limited as a country that we can never progress. We pay the most for healthcare and have the worst results. That is a fact. Look it up.
As a Biology major, i'm aware that there are tons of issues in the medical field. There needs to be laws set in place and a protocol. The only logical explanation that I would have would be they didn't take her symptoms seriously. if they said her results wouldn't be back for a few hours there could be a few scenarios involved. clearly someone at that hospital messed up. I am aware of people of color speaking out about how they've been treated in hospitals. I am disappointed that there are concerns of her death linked to race and bias. its disgusting to think about... we have to do better
If you do research you will see there is alot of information out there about race vs. medical treatment. She was in the hospital for 4 hrs and had known heart issues.
I had a heart condition since birth. I am totally fine now but I remember when I went to ER for chest pain in my 20s and lady at front desk said that I’m too young to be having chest pain. What?!?
I’ve worked in the emergency room before, there’s a protocol to follow. Unless you’re bleeding or got wound shot, you’re on the queue to be seen. She was seen and examined, but she left due to the wait. The emergency room is usually staffed with only one physician. The emergency dept are usually just staffed with nurses and medical assistants, so they’re all waiting on that one doctor to evaluate and run diagnostics. That being said, what happened to her was very. What happened to that woman was indeed tragic, but I don’t think the lack of care was due to her race. The healthcare,/ hospital systems need drastic improvements, though.
I've had to wait 5 hrs at an ER to be seen, despite a serious laceration. Luckily for me, the wound was so traumatic that I couldn't feel it.
Nah, chest pain is usually top priority. It’s serious!
Exactly, that's the part they keep leaving out the story. She was admitted and examined before she left. She was waiting for treatment. However, I definitely agree that there needs to be more than one physician in the ER so cases like this don't continue to happen.
I think so too .
I work in low income country and poor staffing is very common. But I am surprised this is happening in US where the health system is supposed to be stronger 🤔
@@cassandraakinde456 Our health system is broken. It's not just about race.
I live in Milwaukee Wi and went to the same emergency room complaining of stomach pain, after a 5 hr wait I was finally seen just to be told that I may have gall stones and to follow up with my Primary Dr with no scans taken. Just to find out a couple months later during a surgery that the pain wasn’t gall stones but a partial bowel obstruction that would have been found if they took the time to look further into it.... I pray for her Family. This really saddens me.....
Markel Henderson Good for you! I went to five different doctors before they diagnosed me. Lol 😂 I didn’t give up.
I’m currently in college and I’m majoring in nursing. I cannot imagine a person in pain, asking me for help and attention and then I do not do anything. I will do anything to help, no matter how busy I am. My heart could not take it if my negligence caused a person to die.
I had a miscarriage. I went to the ER the nurses told me to wait outside because I was leaving blood on the Er floor. I was outside the Er bleeding out. Passed out a couple times. Took me inside and told me to grab paper towels put them on the floor so I wouldn’t leave blood on the floor. I ended up miscarrying. The Rn told me if I was in 20 min sooner they could have saved my child. I was there for over an hr waiting outside bleeding out. Outside their hospital!!!
How do you save a miscarriage while it is happening??? Never heard of that!
Fyi I work in the Emergency Department with a background in womens health.
Once a miscarriage is beginning it cant be stopped.. im sorry you are misinformed... if all miscarriages were like that no one would be losing their baby
I've gone through this twice in my life. The first time I was pregnant and I came to the hospital because of cramping, felt very lightheaded, and couldn't catch my breathe...it was the most excruciating pain I ever experienced and they had me sit and wait for 2.5hrs...by the time my name was called to take me back to a room, I miscarried right in the waiting room...meanwhile the ppl at the hospital allowed multiple ppl(non-black) to go ahead of me...including another woman of a different race(she came in 90 mins after I did) for cracked heels and a headache...went straight from triage to a room in a matter of 20 mins...smh...Im truly sorry to hear that woman passed away. I'm praying for that young woman's family.🙏🙏🙏🙏 I absolutely CAN'T STAND that black woman are treated like this.
I miscarried at home. Im sooooooooo sorry u had to deal with injustice and the loss of ur baby
@@ertfgghhhh thank you. It was the worst experience of my life. Unfortunately since that moment I've had 2 other miscarriages and still dealing with some health issues from those experiences...I had a lot of growing to do as a woman to move past that and learn my self worth. I'm in my 30s now and I'm debating if I even want a baby anymore. 🤷♀️ Its terrifying to trust hospitals/doctors/nurses...especially during a racially charged time like this and everyone has their own agenda. I still have a lot to think about.
@@ertfgghhhh I'm sorry for your loss as well
Im so sorry for your loss. When I wasnt pregnant, nobody ever went in front of me. When I was I had like 3 people who checked in later, go ahead of me for minor things.. I had a bad migraine & felt super faint. Its bullshit
@@lexibrandi3355 wow I'm sorry to hear that. I'll never understand some people's negligence...especially when our lives are LITERALLY in the doctor/nurses hands...all those years of school and training...I'm like what are the so called protocols and priorities...I'll never understand
They were probably more biased due to her size than her skin color. I know personally.
Still doesn't give them an excuse to turn her away or have her waiting for 2 hours in the ER to be seen by a doctor, and especially chest pain and shortness of breath.
I side eye nurses in the ER, from my experience they’re usually young and inexperienced and just don’t have the empathy...they sit there on their phones waiting to be relieved
Well they're taught to not have empathy in college because it will be unethical.
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 you not wrong, but empathy should come naturally in everyday life not just working in healthcare
I don't know if that's a race issue, rather it's a medical system problem world wide! U need to be dying to get the doctors attention in North America including Canada to say the least! If u ain't dying they don't look at your issue seriously!
z that's a shame. By that time it's usually too late. Doctors are horrible at prevention. They only know how to "treat" when it's a problem.
@z unfortunately in the US it's a race issue, there are plenty of documentaries and empirical research that's been done proving Blacks are repeatedly discriminated against & misdiagnosed in hospitals.😔
@@OraclesoftheWest no the difference is, america just likes to call it race issue instead of class issues because everything is about race and fake oppression in America. People in America are highly privileged to the rest of human civilization, yet tend to complain about fake oppressions.
@@OraclesoftheWest most blacks are in the lower wage side in America, how do we know it's not an class issue? Oh because America has made an obsession with race so they don't overlook the class issues.
@@eliza1826 lol I'm not going to argue because facts trumps opinions (no pun intended) but I'll just put this out there for you to mole over, what about Serena Williams & Beyonce? Both women had similar experiences of mistreatment in hospitals that mirror experiences of so-called "low wage" Blacks. You don't even have to do much research just RUclips it lol
I can’t watch this without crying. It hits home so so so bad...
I've experienced biases during my pregnancy and whenever I go to the ER. It's like they dont take you seriously. Its sad.
Amanda has articulated this issue so well, very educative!
im genuinely concerned about Amandas hair breaking from wearing those ponytails to death
Yes, they do not need to pull it so tightly. She already does not have the thickest hair around her edges.
They think ya black women have super powers or something..
Diamondstarr Yes , exactly!
We do
Camary Murray not enough for our pain to be taking lightly or not taking it serious at all
Diamondstarr Exactly we don’t have superpowers like tf. 🙄💯
@@diamondstarr6677 They never take our pain seriously. White doctors and scientists used to do experiments on us because they believed that we were unable to feel pain. 😡
As someone that works in healthcare, I know that The ER has to triage people. If you can walk and talk and are not hemorrhaging you are not at the top of the the list. If I go to the ER I expect to wait hours unless it not a busy day at the ER.
I’m a LPN at a heart hospital and chest pain patients do not wait. No matter how full we are we move non critical patient to day floor if we have to it’s that serious.
@Aniya Raine actually as a nurse, I'll tell you it's a priority to look into and treat chest pain ASAP
@@daniellew544 That's probably because your work at a specialty hospital but not all ER have those rules.
Rocky Maffitt well maybe they should to prevent deaths like this .
Aniya Raine this lady is dead so at the end of the day whatever she was feeling was important enough , all your “what if’s” aren’t needed .
The first thing that pisses me off is that she waited 2 hours , got an X-Ray then 6 more hours to actually be seen. Why couldn’t she just be seen during that time???😒
It's so true. I went to the ER with extreme pain in my leg. They took an ultra sound and x-ray and it showed nothing. The doctor was going to send me home assuming I just had a sprain. I insisted that I've had sprains before it was very different pain. Because I insisted he had another doctor take a look at me and come to find out I had compartment syndrome --a very severe vascular issue. I could have lost all functionality in my leg or even had to have my leg amputated if I had just gone home. You don't have to accept a doctor's diagnosis and pay attention to your body. If your body is telling you something is wrong and doctor is saying it isn't, you hav every right to ask for another doctor, and ask for them to confirm their diagnosis with additional tests. Also remember this, doctors are imperfect beings just like the rest of us and can make mistakes. They are not infaliable and your life is too precious to just accept anything that anyone tells you- double check them and make certain they double check themselves.
She really shouldn't have left. Usually, results have to be sent off to labs or specialists at other sites, so it takes longer than you think unfortunately.
Salia S. That’s what I was thinking... Sad case tho
@@thriftytashi429 Very sad. Especially given that there is much data that shows women are taken less seriously by healthcare providers when they come in for the same symptoms as men. It is very easy for providers to just blow their symptoms off as exaggeration or PMS
@@salias.363 since you're the genius here.... and karma will repay you in full....exactly why do you think she left... take a guess...
@@JenJHayden Karma? Not sure what I said that was so wrong and offensive to you. Sounds like karma will repay you in full for being a troll. To answer your question: I think she left because she was tired of waiting in the ER bed to receive treatment to alleviate her symptoms. It is not like she was stuck in the waiting room the whole time. She was taken back and examined for the chest pain, but results and treatment plans can take a while to be analyzed, which sucks if you are in pain. It is easy to get impatient and leave, but that is how most ER work. And thanks for calling me a genius, I try to work hard :)
@@salias.363 Please research what karma means. Not sure how you could be offended by that. Anyway, that was not why she left. You say she should not have left? It would be nice if people like you would learn about the story and not just a 5 min clip.
Emergency room ignored my cries for intense migraines.. They would tell me it's caused from the Fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia can cause headaches but not these. After 7 visits to ER I had to be the Best and demand some kind of scan. Sure enough I had degenerative disc disease in 3 discs of my neck triggering 18 migraines a month. You HAVE to stick up for yourself.
All I can keep saying about these stories is wow! Like seriously you guys are out here saving your own lifes!
Chest pain is ALWAYS seen as a priority in emergency rooms. For that hospital to treat her this way is disgusting and they should be held accountable for what happened to her. Absolutely unacceptable.
First thing I asked before playing the video: Was she black?
I didn't even have to ask... sad.
This happens to alot of the minorities not just black people. Black people tend to raise their voice often which is good on them but it seriously happens to all minorities ( hispanics, Pakistani, bangali, indian, chinese etc)
@@fj5072 Well said you're so point on with your statement.
Fizza Jafri everytime Black people say something about Black people...here y’all come! “iT HaPPEnS tO Us ToO”
@@Monaex98 Well terrible stuff like this does happen to other minorities in hospitals. There's nothing wrong with mentioning that.
We need to keep in mind that doctors aren't the ones who decide what patient to check, the staff decides and many times the staff is over worked and under qualified. The issue isn't the people who work there crazy amount of hours trying to help others, the real issue is this messed up healthcare system
It’s called an EMERGENCY room smh.
Then people should not use it as their primary care doctor. Perhaps the rooms wouldn't be overcrowded.
Tracey Tracey yeah but in her condition they should’ve tried harder to take care of her especially when what she’s there for is so critical.
@@mlpegr1255 Until it's an investigation, we won't know what they did or didn't do.
Tracey Tracey True. All we can say now is just it’s a shame someone died.
Tracey Tracey Registered Nurse here. Many people use the ED as their primary care because they can’t afford insurance or don’t have adequate insurance. I saw it a lot when I was working in the hospital, and the demographic was very diverse. This is why we need better healthcare in this country.
This is very true. I was having terrible pelvic and stomach pain. I was overlooked and disregarded until I joined a Facebook support group that urged me to request specific tests. The doctor I was seeing was livid and offended, however obliged. I was finally diagnosed with a pelvic kidney that is only functioning at 20%. Advocate for yourself! Advocate, advocate, advocate. And bring someone else along with you to advocate. Give that doctor/ specialist an audience to hold them accountable. Also, continue to do your research and do not be afraid to refuse invade or otherwise unnecessary testing and procedures.
This whole video gave me chills. Thanks for speaking out ladies. I really really do appreciate it. So much gratitude🖤
Dang In my town the ER takes like 4 hrs sometimes I was there from 6pm-2am recently 😕 The ER system needs help fr
The saddest thing is, is that 2 hours where I live seems like a short wait unfortunately. & The worst is when they tell you to just take ibuprofen and send you home with an 800 dollar bill smh
Yeah I was going to say 2 hours is pretty common where I'm at to. It's like they charge you for the two hours you where just waiting there also.
Primary care doctors exist too
Jrodd you’re right. I’m talking about nights or weekends where they are unavailable and you have no other choice but to go to the ER.
Our healthcare system is broken.
My best friend took her sick kids to the doctor's office and experienced similar discrimination. Two of her kids are blonde hair, blue eyed and were given all of the proper tests to determine they had strep throat. Her mixed child was only given one test and was dismissed as having a cold. When in actuality he had the flu -_-
I don't believe your story. Btw, mixed with what?
@@traceytracey3756 he is mixed as in white and black. And I don't care if you dont believe the story or not. It is real. My friend lives in Wisconsin in a dominantly white area, so that kind of discrimination makes sense there
@@traceytracey3756 and why would I make it up? Do you not believe any of the stories the girls are telling on the show?
@@alexandrareid4100 Me believing their stories has nothing to do with me believing your story.
@@traceytracey3756 so what's the difference? Why is it so hard to believe?
I have experienced this in the ER. They don’t take you seriously and they take their sweet time to see you. I have been told that i have to wait for the next doctor because they were changing shifts. But they are quick to ask you for your insurance. SAD!!!!
It's not just one race that is going through this , this happens to the majority of people who go into hospital. Race doesn't come into the ability of doctors and nurses trying to treat everyone.
Suriya Shazadi so why are only black women dying at alarming rates during child birth?
Race is absolutely a part of this. Look into the statistics and reports done on this. It happens to POC more than not.
That1_mel no not everything. But this particular topic, yes. WOC are notoriously under treated, misdiagnosed and die because of bias. There are multiple studies out there on the matter. Do the research and then ask yourself why it’s making you so uncomfortable when they bring up injustice in the Black community.
I'm sorry but it's a FACT and I witness this everyday in the ER that BLACK ppl get treated far worse than any other race when it comes to emergency medical needs!
Suriya Shazadi Race has absolutely everything to do about this. Look at the rates of black women dying during child birth. We are never taken seriously even when we exclaim that we are in a great amount of pain. Imagine if this woman was white, I doubt this would’ve happened.
I do have a question. how is this a race thing? I’ve already went and sat in the ER waiting for 9 HOURS !
Black women aren't taken as serious when it comes to pain.
Everything is race in the west and whitey is the bogey man.
First of all any pregnant woman who comes into the the ER needs to be accessed immediately no matter what’s going on. Secondly, chest pain and breathing trouble should be treated immediately without question. If I’m at the ER for something and a person comes in with chest pain’s then by all means help them before you help me!
Because of the treatment of black women within the medical community, my daughter and I almost died during my labor with her.
The staff rushed my birth. My birth plan was ignored. The experience was so traumatic that I lied on my back silently as I could feel the doctor stitch me back together.
I resented the birth, I lost trust in the medical industry, and I suffered with postpartum depression.
I have lupus and have lung and heart issues and have gone in with chest pain and have been told the same thing. I’m Latina
You a POC.
It's hard.
I have epilepsy and hypothyroidism.
You should be prioritized by the degree of ur desease NOT BY THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, Lony. That's called triage classification.
She didn't say be prioritized. Nobody said that. Do you know what prioritizing is?That is not what this is about. It's about doctors and nurses not downplaying a patient's pain and suffering and medical condition just because that patient is black. It happens a lot, even to black children. It has even happened to me, but I advocated for myself. And, it IS rooted in race and bias. How would you like it if your pain wasn't adequately treated because you had a doctor who truly believed that you didn't feel as much pain as a white person? Or what about if your complaints weren't taken seriously because you had a doctor who thought all black women were drama queens and that you were just trying to get treated sooner? THAT is the kind of bias that Loni and the ladies were talking about. Furthermore, if you're not black, you don't have any business commenting on this, because you don't know what you're talking about.
@@RosalindGash telling someone they have to be black to have an opinion on a subject is just wrong and backwards thinking.
@@beastlysoldierful Did you purposely miss the everything she wrote in order to focus on one thing that you can criticize?
And you even misinterpreted that. How sad.
@@RosalindGash first of all, u need to calm down. Second, i'm sorry that happened to u. It shouldn't happen to anyone, regardless of race, religion or whatever. Third, i was explaining about triage. The system works if implemented correctly. And lony did say, there should be a law protecting women, ESPECIALLY black women. How's that making things better? Finally, i wish u and ur family well and never experience what u have had in past ever again.
@@melodramatic7904 sorry, should I have started off with "sorry what happened to but..."?
This is literally the best topic that I've heard the ladies on The Real speak on in a long time. My great-aunt was in a rehabilitation center after falling and breaking her hip. The nurse who was supposed to be taking care of her in this facility burnt her foot with hot water. Due to that, she caught an infection which spread and resulted in both of her legs getting amputated. Then she had to get a colostomy bag so she could go to the bathroom since both of her legs were amputated. When the doctors reversed the bag they messed up and there was a hole and her stool leaked on her bowls until she died.
Speaking of black women having higher health risks giving birth, my third cousin in law had a brain aneurism right after she gave birth.
A friend of mines kid father went to the hospital 2 weeks ago after a car wreck. They didn’t treat him after claiming chest pains. they released him and while driving home he had a seizure, wrecked, and died. This is just sad af and happens a lot.
this just reminds me of my bff who passed a way last yr back in 2019 in April on my sis bday. she was having problems in her stomach and they were just dragging their feet. they kept giving her pain pills instead of fixing the problem. they just sent her home to die. i am still dealing with her death. smh.
Marshan Thomas I’m so sorry for your lose 💜🥺🙏🏽
How old is Amanda that her mom emailed the Dr back when she was young? 🤔🤔 that's an interesting story
Mimi Debby lmaoooooooo 😂
She's around adrianne's age
She is 38 now which means she was 18 in 2000 and email originated in 1971. Her story adds up.
Email originated in 1971? Okay, for who?
Who's parent in 1971 was emailing their child's pediatrician?
@@gabby_donz lmao you wild 1971
Am an Rn.(28yrs) Nursing 101.Pain is-what the patient says it is,and exist when the patient says it does.
I have a Chronic Pain Condition called Sickle Cell Disease. I've been experiencing this & my mother and I have been saying that this was going to happen! My mom is experiencing near-Panic Attacks the longer we have to sit & wait because I had a younger sibling who passed away from the same disease I suffer from. It's truly ridiculous what's going on in hospital Ears now. Like, it's the EMERGENCY ROOM! It's not a place you go to sit & wait for literally HOURS! It's terrifying for me to know, this horrendous pain is occurring because my blood vessels to various parts of my body are blocked, not receiving oxygen, & dying off as I sit in your waiting room & there's literally NOTHING I can do about it & the people who can, are content for me to sit here while it's happening! The pain is breath-taking & the key to alleviating it & deaths of parts of my body are on the other side of the Waiting Room Door, but may as well be in Siberia for all the help they're giving. That one day, the wait will have been too long & my organs are shutting down, & now the process is irreversible and I can no longer be helped. Just made "comfortable" until my body gives up. Comfortable. The last time I saw my sibling alive, there was so much pain, the entire body was trembling with it! And I, as a black woman, will(& do) have my pain ignored & under-estimated by the very people whose job it is to listen & help treat me.
*ERs not ears. Stupid auto-correct. I'd actually put ERs in & didn't realize til I was reading that the a-c had subbed it out for ears. Stupid technology.
I am a WHITE woman and I had a heart attack while sitting in an Emergency Room for over 3 hrs....they didn't give me attention until my sister went back to the registration area screaming
Same. I waited for 3 hours to be seen for chest pains and it hurt to breathe. When they brought me back, the doctor told me he was concerned I had a blood clot in my heart. I sat in a hospital bed hooked up to a monitor for another 5 hours before they took xrays, and then eventually he came back and told me it was just a strained chest muscle from coughing so much. I had bronchitis. In general, these hospitals need to do better. That's why i go to Urgent Care instead now. Im in and out within 2 hours and they do everything to make sure I leave in better condition than I came.
Desiree Rimback God bless you
Oh yeah but you're white so your experience won't be counted sorry. You have to be at least a caramel shade or darker to qualify for the victim olympics.
Unfortunately a long wait in an Emergency Room is very common and almost rarely has nothing to do with race. I was bleeding from my head and had a concussion and still waited for two hours. This woman should NOT HAVE LEFT the emergency room.! Its not that its not seen as serious, its that there are so many people who have been waiting too
How do you know that it rarely has anything to do with race. Unless you are sitting behind the desk at every ER you can't come to that conclusion.
That's not correct. There is evidence that shows that black women not only are most likely to die during child birth but also are least likely to be given medication for pain
MATE! Y’all don’t know Britain’s accident and emergency room. I was there with my sister, she had popped her knee and there was a white guy sat away from us in his approx 40s. He looked like he has a spear wound to the head. His head was cracked, there was blood all over his hand and jeans. We sat there for 6 hours waiting for a doctor and so did the guy! Someone gave him a towel to hold near his head and that was it - prob so he wouldn’t bleed out on the floor. 6 hours man was not seen. Finally he got seen just before us. That’s uk service. White black or whatever you get seen when your seen!
LEONA BUNDY UK healthcare system is completely different to the US. It’s funded by the government and our taxes. It’s been underfunded for almost two decades now, one nurse does the job of something like four nurses ect. Guess which department have had the most cuts? ER and maternity.
@@xXxmissemmaxXx I understand that. Its not that different from the UK. NHS (what you guys i think would have called that Obama care) has had major cuts - same funding sources. Hence the long wait times for anything.
LEONA BUNDY haha! Sorry Leona I thought you was from the US visiting the UK, I was also talking about the NHS.
I went to the urgent care one time for what I knew was a broken rib. I had been playing with my 3 year old son on the floor when I turned over on my stomach and acted as if I was sleeping and he bounced on my upper back and my husband and myself heard the snap! I knew it was broken! They told me I probably pulled a muscle and refused to do an X-ray and prescribed me muscle relaxers. I left that office and immediately went to my local ER where an X-ray was done and the doctor confirmed my rib was broken and was concerned that it had affected my lungs. Thankfully it didn’t but they were so worried about me they got me in and treated quickly. I called the urgent care back the next day to tell them about it and I gave them a piece of my mind. That nurse no longer works at that urgent care.
I hear stories like this everyday here in South Africa. So sad
This is not a black people thing...this is just medical professionals failing to do their job properly...
No, there have been studies showing black women are 3 to 4 times more likely to die in the hands of hospitals
There are also studies that shows black people are less likely to be believed about pain in hospitals
THEY SAID WHAT THE SAID. IT IS ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE
The fact that almost everyone in the comment section has a horror story to share regarding their experience with medical care should tell us something. Even people who work in healthcare wouldn’t go to the emergency room.
Correct! Urgent care only for me. Why? Because they listen and give me what I need. Shout out to the Nurse Practitioners at the urgent care. Very thorough!
That same thing happens all to often in Orangeburg, SC hospital. My husband went to the hospital in severe pain from his chronic illness and the er nurse told him "I know how you people are, you only want pain medication"....he had be to hospitalized for 5 days because of his illness. The health-care system is all about money and then stereo type a lot of people in the black community... I've seen it time and time again
After working in an er for over 7 years they have gotten more and more crowded! On top of that the healthcare system is jacked up period! Healthcare personnel are either burned out or do not simply care. What patients have to understand is that emergency rooms are designated for emergencies. A toothache is not an emergency. A cold is not an emergency. People abuse the emergency room and use it as a primary care doctor. Its so bad that some insurance companies. will not pay for er visits if not deemed an emergency. We see well over 200-500 people a day with probably more. With overcrowding it makes it difficult to properly care for patients because there are not enough nurses and doctors.
No one will understand it if they don’t work in the medical field. It’s gotten insane and people even abuse the 911 system for non emergent stuff, meanwhile you a hear a pediatric call go out that is in cardiac arrest and you can’t go because you’re stuck taking care of a drunk. There needs to be something done. I see these urgent cares are, for the most part, empty.
justin m so true. I work in the ER & sometimes ppl come for the simplest thing. They come for cold symptoms, minor injuries. It’s crazy.
The sad common denominator in all of these comments is that they the overwhelming majority of the victims tend to Black women and black men 😭
When I was 18, I was having horrible back pain, couldn’t and was sent home with the doctors saying I was just on my feet too much. Later that night my dad took me back furious because I was screaming in my sleep. There was a tumor on my spine.
One of my high school peers was a young black woman only in her early 20s she enlisted into the navy. One day she started feeling sick on the ship she was on the medics saw her and said nothing was wrong and sent her on her way. Later that night she went into cardiac arrest and passed away.
a family member of mine had chest pains, we were in the waiting room at the local doctors office, for 2 hrs and then got in and the doc was like "um youre having a heart attack" and called 911. the nurses at the front had no clue...
Well no because you need an EKG and some nurses can’t read EKGs. Sometimes you can’t see a heart attack happening in an EKG and you need blood work to determine that.
@@jrodd05 well no, because they had chest pains. Every nurse knows that chest pain is a priority in the ER and it follows a specific protocol of medications that increase blood flow and oxygen to the heart, and a 12 lead EKG, all completed within 10 minutes. These nurses are just incompetent , because all this can even be done in the waiting room if you say there are no beds.
Keke Lauren are you a trained medical professional? Or just a cna?
Keke Lauren there are criteria that must be followed in order to perform an EKG on someone. You can have chest pain if you’re having a panic attack with shortness of breath. It could’ve also been a PE but it’s all based off on vitals and how she is presenting. She also left against medical advice so there’s that
@@jrodd05 you do not "perform" an EKG, you hook the patient up to 12 lead and an monitor or telemetry which is all apart of the chest pain protocol. Protocol, meaning that there are standing orders already in place for the symptoms this patient was presenting, as she ultimately ended up dying from myocardial ischemia.
Y’all talking about a lot of “black issues” since Amanda I love it. Granted y’all have BEEN talking about it but its more relevant, and subjected!!
I think it all boils down to lack of compassion and just getting a paycheck. Some people in the healthcare field do not give a damn about helping others. I don’t care how busy I am, if someone needs help I will help them!
As a black woman living in Canada. You come in with chest pain you are a PRIORITY! At least when you are elderly. But then again I adovacted on my moms behalf and went with her to all doctors appointments and made notes in front of doctors and nurses faces asking for their names so they know not to bother FUCKING with me or my MOM. Because I am watching!