@@kensmilepachi3313 Its totally legal. Cyclists have to dismount their bike in order to use pedestrian walkways. So as long as a cyclist is not riding his bike and is walking with it, he's well within his rights to cross with the pedestrians with the green man light.
As a law-abiding cyclist it infuriates me when I see other cyclists brazenly disregarding road traffic laws, as we all get tarred with the same brush. Confiscate their bikes and make them pay a hefty fine for their return...that should help sort this out...
@Advanced Driving That has very little to do with what I was referring to. Most drivers exceed the speed limit even when they are not overtaking other vehicles.
It doesn't matter where your cycling you have to wait at traffic lights till they turn green.Any cyclist going through a red light and stopped by police should be given an automatic fine.
Many years ago when we obeyed traffic lights, I was cycling home with a schoolfriend in the middle of town when I stopped at the red light and he shot straight through. It turned out he had been adjusting his brakes earlier and put the old rubber brake blocks on the wrong way round so instead of stopping the wheel, the blocks got shoved out. He was very embarrassed.
I do believe it especially in the likes of London where they are notorious for this STUPID & DANGEROUS!!! behavior. Not only are they putting their own lives at RISK!!! but, the very possibility of others aswell. This is just one of the many reasons why cyclists get stereotyped as menaces & hazards to others. If they behaved sensibly & safely in traffic they would be more better behaved. But, while they behave like MORONS!!! this won't get any better. More than 85% of so called cyclists behave like they own the roads, & pavements etc, etc. DANGEROUSLY wishing past the elderly & young children. I know, I have seen it many, many etc, etc times before & still continue to see it. It really P***** ME OFF!!! 🤬😡 & most DON'T!!! use lights at night. These are the ones that should be prosecuted every time & all the time they behave in such a disgusting manner like this. I understand its not always easy to stop them & give them their penalty. But, something has to be done to stop. such STUPID, & DANGEROUS!!! behavior from cyclists ( sorry if I seem like I'm shouting. Not really just emphasizing my words & my point).
@@ThStg " More than 85% of so called cyclists behave like, they own the roads, & pavements etc, etc. DANGEROUSLY wishing past the elderly & young children. I know, I have seen it many, many etc, etc times before & still continue to see it. It really P*** ME OFF" Wow who has been a busy boy pulling stats out of their ass. The actual facts are that as always road users and pedestrians are way more at risk from motor vehicles and it has been shown in every single study that people on bikes obey the law more than people in cars, so take your anti bicycle crap and F off. www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/09/18/motorists-break-law-to-save-time-cyclists-break-law-to-save-lives-finds-study/#4aca24253c54
@@talonlan I am going by my own personal judgement of seeing for myself on how these so called cyclists behave out & about on & off the roads on a daily & even nightly occasions. On average!!! 9 out of every 10certainly maybe as little as, 8 out of 10 SIGNAL & DON'T DEFINITELY DON'T shoulder check no use of lights & just simply dart either across in front of a moving vehicle or pedestrians ( usually pensioners or young children) I see this for myself with my own two eyes that's why I say what I say. It is not on statistics it's just general observation from myself. I am not actually counting them just a general observation on average it seems that most of them don't behave sensibly or safely on or off the roads. They come racing past me within inches when I am trying to get from. A to B i have seen far too many very near misses & I I am absolutely DISGUSTED in their behavior & they have the right to call themselves a cyclists TO TOTAL BULL 💩 you know it & I certainly know it. The so called law for cyclists is absolutely APPALLING!!! Certainly outside London It's like the so called law doesn't care & it shows that very clearly. I have been a cyclist for many, many years & I have found that they have got worse & worse & worse etc, etc over the past few years & it will continue to do so until the so called government (SELFISH ARSEHOLES!!! ) THEY ARE anyway. Wake up & do something about the way these imbeciles behave on & off the roads endangering not only themselves but, others. DAY & NIGHT!!! 😡😡😡 I don't have to get some bloody statistics to see for myself what's going on around me & hearing about it not only on the news, but GOOGLE News occasionally comes up with things & only the very recent cyclists videos I watch ( within 3months ) on RUclips do I take any notice of & make if any judgement from them. ( depending on the situation of the video) Not where it was, filmed ( country or city N/A) Just the actual facts of the video & I judge make my comments from that. If you do this understand that or don't like it then it's you that has the problem. I don't need, statistics to see for myself what's, going on with my own eyes & yes I do use a camera but,it needs, replacing when I can afford a decent replacement. I have said what I needed to say.
@@ThStg so you admit this is all just personal opinion heavily influenced by bias and do has no actual merit. Ofc I never actually read more than the first couple of lines, ain't noone got time for that level of bull.
@@ThStg problem is no matter how much you rang it doesn't change the facts that cyclists actually are of no real danger to anyone around them unlike motor vehicles that kill 5 a day and seriously injure another 60. Bikes may annoy you but motor vehicles kill people very very often.
@@pinkyman5155 "give the evidence to the police" and they would do what with it? Spend their time trying to track down a cyclist based on the colour of their t-shirt. 😂😂 Take this video as an example (but without the police action obviously), had this been reported by Mikey, had the police looked to take action, had they published the video online for people to identify, had someone miraculously 'identified' the cyclist, had the police gone round to confront the person, had the person actually admitted it was them, despite no face being shown and the police having no warrant to go inside and find the matching bike/clothing. Had all this improbably happened then they could issue a £50 ticket. Do you see a benefit there? Have you ever seen one of the drivers in Mikey's videos identified (other than the celebrities) in the way that you think cyclists will be?
@@roaduser6438 so you are saying if a cyclist should hit and kill a child or adult the Police should simply file it away as they have only have a description to go by?
@@pinkyman5155 "are you saying" I literally tied my entire comment into whether it was worth it all for a £50 fine and you believe I might be saying it wouldn't even be worth it if the cyclist was guilty of killing someone? You're being silly. Will you admit it? 1. Which part of what I said lead you to believe that might have been what I was saying? 2. If Mikey did record a cyclist killing someone then that recording should definitely be provided to the police. How many cyclists killing someone do you think Mikey will have recorded? Will you ignore these questions in the same way that you ran away from the previous ones?
I nearly passed out with shock only the other day as I actually watched in wonder as a cyclist stopped at a red light...that was a lifetime first for me!
I nearly passed out with shock the other day as I actually watched in wonder as a motorist obeyed the speed limit.... that was a lifetime first for me!
@@lazycalm41 so you made this response on a video of a bike rider literally being held accountable for breaking the law. Oh the irony. 1.2 million uninsured cars on British roads.
In the USA they do. "Right turn on red" is lawful there. ie if you can see that the road is clear and you can turn safely you don't need to obey the red. Of course there are pedestrians crossing your path with a green light. But hey, who cares about rationality when facing a good argument.
@@smitajky yeah that turn right on red rule makes perfect sense, but unfortunately we don’t have that here in the UK. Also those like perfect cross shaped intersections that you have a lot of in the states are quite rare here. For some reason we don’t like building our roads in straight lines and when we do we put roundabouts down at intersections. But seeing as we have some of the best crash statistics in the world (far far far better than yours at least), I guess we’re doing something right!
@@him050 its actually a bad idea to build roads in straight lines this actually causes way more traffic and incidents than it actually helps and rounds abouts are the best idea for intersections instead of having traffic come to a stand still with traffic lights it can keep moving smoothly.
It does make sense... Until you think about pedestrians. I used to live in the States, and "right turn on red" just means more pedestrians get hit, because the motorists assume they have right of way when they don't. Not much fun if you're a kid, especially not against 'Murican SUVs and trurks.
@@phantasmaleye3879 I question what it like as can get all points want and even if not plan to ever drive what can they do as not sure ban cycling is a thing, I know ban driving is
@@mlee6050 I think disqualification for cyclists would be difficult as there's no licence to suspend. Anyway, cyclists can still be fined and maybe imprisoned for breaking traffic laws.
Yeah easily. You get Points and a fine as you need a revocable license to drive a car, if you are deemed to be a dangerous driver the licence can be taken away, on a bike you don't have a licence and so therefor just get the fine part. Why do you need a licence for a car and not a bike ? Ability to cause damage.
@@talonlan At what age should you need a license to cycle on the road then? Has to be applied to all, so every parent must get their child licensed, insured, taxed etc before they can teach them to ride...sounds fair, yes? I'm cool with that...but are you?
Time that a test must be passed for all cyclists that wish to use the road, if caught breaking road laws then you have to produce your cycling license that you must have at all time when using the road
Well it was 3yrs since you made that comment so apparently the 'time that a test must be passed for all cyclists" never happened. Given that motorists don't even need to carry licences why should cyclists?
@@roaduser6438 no number plates and not possible for some bikes so carrying a license at all times only practical alternative, too many cyclists jumping reds these days and one not long ago crashed into a baby as a mother was using the crossing. Something has to be done now as these idiots are getting way out of hand and getting very close to killing somebody someday soon.
@@insoft_uk "something has to be done now as these idiots are getting way out of hand" Westminster City Council did a study and found that it was the pedestrian who was the party at fault in 60% of bike/ped accidents. So whilst it's not unreasonable to think that cyclists (just like all road users) should be accountable, it also seems reasonable that something should be done about the pedestrians that may well be causing the majority of accidents. Do you have any suggestions?
@@roaduser6438 no excuse, cyclists and drivers need to start behaving and lookout for pedestrians, as a cyclist I’ve encountered pedestrians like you described tho guess what I spotted the danger half way up the road before I encountered them as I observe my surroundings. Just the other day I seen someone running, school children just got out running along beside them at the edge near the road so , had my finger on my horn ready for him when he jumps out onto the side of the road to run around them so I can give him a quick beep just to let him know they is a cyclist approaching from behind and 1 minute later a quick beep, and ready to break, tho just slowing down was enough it’s things like this these red light jumpers are also doing wrong not looking out for potential dangers just racing threw red lights oblivious
@@insoft_uk "no excuse" Do you think I made an excuse? If so what? I'm just looking for people to have balanced views. "I observe my surroundings" Most people do to a greater or lesser degree. You appear to have missed the question at the end of my previous comment. You clearly want road users to be accountable. What do you suggest we do to make pedestrians more accountable? You can't solely be thinking it's cyclists that need increased accountability as that would appear biased. Your comment about red light jumpers does not relate to what we see in the video. The cyclist stopping, looking and going across slowly with the green man. It is of course worth noting the 3yr Paris trial that concluded that allowing cyclists to pass through some red lights led to a reduction in the number of collisions. This proves that red light running is not inherently risky, but it is of course illegal. I look forward to the laws being reviewed. None of this is to excuse reckless red light running of course.
They should have their licence taken away from them.....Oh wait, what licence..... But seriously if they do have a driving licence it should be endorsed and pay a fine. CF
Nick G, Well then, go out and do something really stupid on a bike, get crushed by a car. And when it comes to charging the auto driver with a crime, we'll just let them off, because bikes shouldn't be held to the same laws, which also means, they don't get the same protections. The laws are there for EVERYONE . . . From 2 wheels on up.
People aren't vehicles. It was decided long ago that bicycles were vehicles, and so rules made to protect people from vehicles apply to bicycles. The people who ride bicycles seem to want ALL the rights of a pedestrian, AND all the rights, but none of the restrictions, of any other vehicle user.
Cyclists are road users like everyone else driving a vehicle. So they should have to pass a test, get a licence, pay road tax and take out minimum third party insurance. Simple!
I'm very rare.stop and all red lights and if anyones using zebra crossing i stop for them as well.it's why i'm still here after riding for over 55 years
pay some road tax and get insurance if you plow into a driver its no cost to you few cuts and scrapes back on the road again the next day the damage you do to the cars comes out of the drivers own pocket the trauma as well knowing they hit somebody
Actually you don't have the same rules as a car. You should go back and re-read the Highway Code...you'll note that there are sections applicable to cyclists, some applicable to motorists, some applicable to all...but certainly it is not true that cyclists and motorists have the same rules to follow
Cycling to work the other night the lights went amber so I stopped at short notice, no not because I thought that I'd get free amber nectar, a pedestrian was waiting to cross. He looked at me and then on my right a righteous brother sped thru on the by then red. The original post was 7 years ago and nothing has changed.
i was crossing a toucan crossing when four cyclists came down, three went through the red one stopped, i took out my phone and took a photo of him and said i can't believe you stopped the look on his face was priceless .
I've known cyclists in Holland to be fined for jumping red lights. Once upon a time we used to have fairly decent law and order here in the UK, but now we just mostly have thug Police, especially in the MET.
A nice safe little arrest with paperwork to cover a large portion of your shift, instead of actually dealing with burglaries, knife crime and issues that really do affect the law abiding public. Sure, the cyclist broke the law, but ffs, if you're as understaffed and up against is as you claim, this isn't serving your turn.. Next video, total takedown of man dropping cigarette but in a built up area.. Plod nowadays, please.. Bike man jumps lights..? Sad twats...
They really do think they are above the law I have seen them on a580 and Rainford bypass on the main road and they have a 8ft wide cycle path beggers beleif
We have shared bike paths too. They are limited to 10km/hr by law. And I typically ride at 30+ km /hr. So the speed restriction as a fraction of the normal cruising speed is like limiting the M1 motorway to a maximum of 30km/hr for motorvehicles. But don't get started on what happens at intersections. Where if you are on a bike path you have zero rights. Turning vehicles are free to mow you down. So of COURSE a serious rider must be on the road. Duhh.
Here in Bentonville, AR, because we are trying to be the mt bike capital of the world, they city made a ruling that bikers don't have to follow traffic laws.
The police can issue a fixed penalty notice of £30 for red light jumping. I don't believe that a cyclist can be banned due to not having to take a test / agree to conditions similar to a driving license.
Hi Pat, how's it going? May I feature this clip on my channel? If so, could you tell me where this happened? And do you have any further comment on the incident? Thanks for your consideration
hmm as a lot of cyclist do own n drive cars maybe points and a fine or if they dont have a licence a heavey fine n maybe have to carry identification while cycling
It's time that cyclists had there bike taken for going through red lights and not stopping at zebra crossing's. They may get the pont then that the rules of the road also means them
And he got 3 points on his license and a fine so his insurance will go up in price I assume? Like fuck, slap on the wrist and don’t do it again more like!
My God, the horror, imagine the death and carnage that cyclist could have caused by cycling recklessly through that junction at, what, 6mph possibly. Luckily the boys in blue were right there on the spot to hopefully throw the book at this career criminal, the stories they must be able to tell their colleagues when they get back to the station. I feel much safer on the roads with law enforcement of this high standard especially now all other serious crime has apparently been eradicated. Let's be the only country in the world that requires number plates and insurance for cyclists and get them to pay the non-existent road tax (which drivers don't pay).That'll definitely stop this sort of thing.
Just a couple of months ago a cyclist was convicted of causing a death, having cycled at speed into a pedestrian, who later died. Cycles can kill too...as do scooters, mopeds etc. If you start saying it's OK for cyclists to ignore red lights then why should motorists stop? For the record I am a lifelong cyclist...but one of those who does stop at red lights. I loathe those who disregard other's safety for their own personal gain. Confiscate their bikes, make them pay a hefty fine to get it back...that'll teach them...
As one of the majority of bike users who doesn't run red lights this is great to see. Now can the Police also tackle the drivers who run red lights and actually kill people? I see 10x more drivers running red lights than people on bikes - but red lights don't apply if you are late and it only just turned red a few seconds earlier right drivers?
Derek ok that’s absolute tosh. Way more cyclist do it on average than cars. You know why, there are more cars on the road. What’s the worst that could happen to a cyclist running a red light? I known for a driver it could means points or even losing their licence.
@@Anonymous56657 You can't say it's tosh when it's what I see, it's not an opinion, it's what I see. Maybe you live in London where there are 730,000 bike journeys per day? When you go along slowly in a car you might be over/under taken by 500 people on bikes in a 30 min journey and granted you might see 10 or 20 go through red lights as you sit at them. You will also see 5 or so vehicles go through red lights on a similar journey but as you haven't been overtaken by 500 vehicles on that journey the comparison you're making isn't sound. You need to stand at a set of traffic lights and count how many vehicles go through on red - you can't go by how many you see from your car. So you think the problem is bikes because so see a lot more bikes go through traffic light junctions than vehicles on a set journey in the city. The worst that could happen to a 'cyclist' running a red light is instant death. That's why the vast majority don't do it.
On a slow drive through a city you see more different bike users going through junctions than different vehicles on the same journey because bike traffic flows around you while the same vehicles largely stay infront and behind you. So you are seeing 500 different bike users and maybe only 100 different vehicle users around you going in your direction (where you can see the light colours). You may think more bikes go through red but it's not the case. Stand at a set of busy lights and you will see vehicles go through red on every cycle. On my commute I've seen less than 5 bikes go through reds this year but many tens of vehicles including huge trucks.
Haha I love it! Would it be OK with you if I use this clip in a compilation? Fully credited of course including your channel name, video title and URL in the description :) Thanks in advance! CRW.
Hello again! I've recently uploaded my latest biker compilation including your clip! The video is called: "Great Policework, Angry People & Close Passes [Bikers & Motorcycle riders Ep. 20]". You can watch it on my channel :) Thanks again, rdide safe and have a great day :)
they got time to pull a cyclist for RLJ but never the time to catch pavement parking are speeding motorist .but i dont like RLJ full stop and will pull them up over it politely
Until 10 years ago that is exactly how it was defined here. But they wanted to introduce special restrictions on the bike which they could not do if the bike was just another road vehicle. So they deliberately redefined it to NOT be a road vehicle for the purposes of the act. Motorists have campaigned for things, get what they asked for, then complain about the result. wonderful.
My money is on license plates or disks being required for cycles, disability scooters and e scooters in the next few years. Then the councils can levy a tax.
Just so you know, the ratio of irresponsible drivers is almost the same as the ratio of irresponsible cyclist. I've seen it personally. Some are even arrogant. Cyclists use roads too so they also should be given registrations.
@@roaduser6438 They use SIDEWALKS. And there's this thing called PEDESTRIAN LANE. Plus, if a pedestrian hits another pedestrian, they can just say sorry. If a cyclist or a driver hits a pedestrian, it's another story.
Before judging please check the pedestrian light on the feft at 0.12s. The light is green. The cyclist makes a stop and then starts again with a green pedestrian light.
@@fishbmw The motorcyclist should have stopped when the amber light came on he had plenty of time to do so. He could have been pursued by the police. You must STOP if you see an amber or red light at a traffic light, the only exception is if the driver is too close to the lights to stop safely. You are only to close to safely stop If the amber light is illuminated and your vehicle has already passed the white stop line.
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2 Miracles in ONE - A cyclist jumping a Red Light AND a Police Car doing something about it.
Wonder of wonders.
There were actually three. You missed the bloke walking his bike across the street and then mounting it and riding it once on the street.
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Is that illegal?
The miracle was the other cylist stopping at the right light.
@@kensmilepachi3313 Its totally legal. Cyclists have to dismount their bike in order to use pedestrian walkways. So as long as a cyclist is not riding his bike and is walking with it, he's well within his rights to cross with the pedestrians with the green man light.
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Thanks for the info
As a law-abiding cyclist it infuriates me when I see other cyclists brazenly disregarding road traffic laws, as we all get tarred with the same brush. Confiscate their bikes and make them pay a hefty fine for their return...that should help sort this out...
Not if it's cheaper to buy a new bike it won't.
I'm all for that IF cars get the same confiscation rule.
You may be a cyclist...and you may be cycling in London...but you still have to obey traffic laws.
@Advanced Driving most drivers break speed limits
@Advanced Driving That has very little to do with what I was referring to. Most drivers exceed the speed limit even when they are not overtaking other vehicles.
I live in London and I see motorists speeding and passing on red lights every day. Through impatience.
It doesn't matter where your cycling you have to wait at traffic lights till they turn green.Any cyclist going through a red light and stopped by police should be given an automatic fine.
Many years ago when we obeyed traffic lights, I was cycling home with a schoolfriend in the middle of town when I stopped at the red light and he shot straight through. It turned out he had been adjusting his brakes earlier and put the old rubber brake blocks on the wrong way round so instead of stopping the wheel, the blocks got shoved out. He was very embarrassed.
Some people are so self-centered they don't even see a freakin' police car. I don't get it.
A cyclist jumping a red light I don't belive it
I do believe it especially in the likes of London where they are notorious for this STUPID & DANGEROUS!!! behavior. Not only are they putting their own lives at RISK!!! but, the very possibility of others aswell. This is just one of the many reasons why cyclists get stereotyped as menaces & hazards to others. If they behaved sensibly & safely in traffic they would be more better behaved. But, while they behave like MORONS!!! this won't get any better. More than 85% of so called cyclists behave like they own the roads, & pavements etc, etc. DANGEROUSLY wishing past the elderly & young children. I know, I have seen it many, many etc, etc times before & still continue to see it. It really P***** ME OFF!!! 🤬😡 & most DON'T!!! use lights at night. These are the ones that should be prosecuted every time & all the time they behave in such a disgusting manner like this. I understand its not always easy to stop them & give them their penalty. But, something has to be done to stop. such STUPID, & DANGEROUS!!! behavior from cyclists ( sorry if I seem like I'm shouting. Not really just emphasizing my words & my point).
@@ThStg " More than 85% of so called cyclists behave like, they own the roads, & pavements etc, etc. DANGEROUSLY wishing past the elderly & young children. I know, I have seen it many, many etc, etc times before & still continue to see it. It really P*** ME OFF"
Wow who has been a busy boy pulling stats out of their ass.
The actual facts are that as always road users and pedestrians are way more at risk from motor vehicles and it has been shown in every single study that people on bikes obey the law more than people in cars, so take your anti bicycle crap and F off.
www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/09/18/motorists-break-law-to-save-time-cyclists-break-law-to-save-lives-finds-study/#4aca24253c54
@@talonlan I am going by my own personal judgement of seeing for myself on how these so called cyclists behave out & about on & off the roads on a daily & even nightly occasions. On average!!! 9 out of every 10certainly maybe as little as, 8 out of 10 SIGNAL & DON'T DEFINITELY DON'T shoulder check no use of lights & just simply dart either across in front of a moving vehicle or pedestrians ( usually pensioners or young children) I see this for myself with my own two eyes that's why I say what I say. It is not on statistics it's just general observation from myself. I am not actually counting them just a general observation on average it seems that most of them don't behave sensibly or safely on or off the roads. They come racing past me within inches when I am trying to get from. A to B i have seen far too many very near misses & I I am absolutely DISGUSTED in their behavior & they have the right to call themselves a cyclists TO TOTAL BULL 💩 you know it & I certainly know it. The so called law for cyclists is absolutely APPALLING!!! Certainly outside London It's like the so called law doesn't care & it shows that very clearly. I have been a cyclist for many, many years & I have found that they have got worse & worse & worse etc, etc over the past few years & it will continue to do so until the so called government (SELFISH ARSEHOLES!!! ) THEY ARE anyway. Wake up & do something about the way these imbeciles behave on & off the roads endangering not only themselves but, others. DAY & NIGHT!!! 😡😡😡 I don't have to get some bloody statistics to see for myself what's going on around me & hearing about it not only on the news, but GOOGLE News occasionally comes up with things & only the very recent cyclists videos I watch ( within 3months ) on RUclips do I take any notice of & make if any judgement from them. ( depending on the situation of the video) Not where it was, filmed ( country or city N/A) Just the actual facts of the video & I judge make my comments from that. If you do this understand that or don't like it then it's you that has the problem. I don't need, statistics to see for myself what's, going on with my own eyes & yes I do use a camera but,it needs, replacing when I can afford a decent replacement. I have said what I needed to say.
@@ThStg so you admit this is all just personal opinion heavily influenced by bias and do has no actual merit.
Ofc I never actually read more than the first couple of lines, ain't noone got time for that level of bull.
@@ThStg problem is no matter how much you rang it doesn't change the facts that cyclists actually are of no real danger to anyone around them unlike motor vehicles that kill 5 a day and seriously injure another 60. Bikes may annoy you but motor vehicles kill people very very often.
Someone should send this video to cycling Mikey he enjoys reporting car drivers but never cyclists 😡
There is is no process for him to be able to report a cyclist so what's your point?
@@roaduser6438 so why couldn’t he video them and give the evidence to the police and publish it online for others to identify them.
@@pinkyman5155 "give the evidence to the police" and they would do what with it? Spend their time trying to track down a cyclist based on the colour of their t-shirt. 😂😂
Take this video as an example (but without the police action obviously), had this been reported by Mikey, had the police looked to take action, had they published the video online for people to identify, had someone miraculously 'identified' the cyclist, had the police gone round to confront the person, had the person actually admitted it was them, despite no face being shown and the police having no warrant to go inside and find the matching bike/clothing. Had all this improbably happened then they could issue a £50 ticket.
Do you see a benefit there?
Have you ever seen one of the drivers in Mikey's videos identified (other than the celebrities) in the way that you think cyclists will be?
@@roaduser6438 so you are saying if a cyclist should hit and kill a child or adult the Police should simply file it away as they have only have a description to go by?
@@pinkyman5155 "are you saying" I literally tied my entire comment into whether it was worth it all for a £50 fine and you believe I might be saying it wouldn't even be worth it if the cyclist was guilty of killing someone? You're being silly. Will you admit it?
1. Which part of what I said lead you to believe that might have been what I was saying?
2. If Mikey did record a cyclist killing someone then that recording should definitely be provided to the police. How many cyclists killing someone do you think Mikey will have recorded?
Will you ignore these questions in the same way that you ran away from the previous ones?
Apparently cyclists never jump red lights
I nearly passed out with shock only the other day as I actually watched in wonder as a cyclist stopped at a red light...that was a lifetime first for me!
Some do, sadly it's this sort of cyclist that doesn't make you see it.
I nearly passed out with shock the other day as I actually watched in wonder as a motorist obeyed the speed limit.... that was a lifetime first for me!
@@talonlan But at least when motorists break the law they can be held accountable, unlike cyclists!
@@lazycalm41 so you made this response on a video of a bike rider literally being held accountable for breaking the law. Oh the irony. 1.2 million uninsured cars on British roads.
@@talonlan and every bike on our roads uninsured!
I love how they edge out really slowly, checking what’s coming, then go thinking that makes it okay. Hun a car can do that too
In the USA they do. "Right turn on red" is lawful there. ie if you can see that the road is clear and you can turn safely you don't need to obey the red. Of course there are pedestrians crossing your path with a green light. But hey, who cares about rationality when facing a good argument.
@@smitajky yeah that turn right on red rule makes perfect sense, but unfortunately we don’t have that here in the UK. Also those like perfect cross shaped intersections that you have a lot of in the states are quite rare here. For some reason we don’t like building our roads in straight lines and when we do we put roundabouts down at intersections. But seeing as we have some of the best crash statistics in the world (far far far better than yours at least), I guess we’re doing something right!
@@him050 its actually a bad idea to build roads in straight lines this actually causes way more traffic and incidents than it actually helps and rounds abouts are the best idea for intersections instead of having traffic come to a stand still with traffic lights it can keep moving smoothly.
@@him050 You'll find the roads were built quite a while ago, and the US traffic system doesn't work
It does make sense... Until you think about pedestrians.
I used to live in the States, and "right turn on red" just means more pedestrians get hit, because the motorists assume they have right of way when they don't.
Not much fun if you're a kid, especially not against 'Murican SUVs and trurks.
The offence should of been riding with undue care and attention..for failing to spot the cop car..🙂
And you sentence should read "The offence should HAVE been riding with undue care and attention..for failing to spot the cop car.."
It should carry same punishment as all other vehicles
Why?
The penalty should be determined by the weight of the vehicle & the speed it was going. Mass x Velocity = Damage.
Fine is normally around £30 but it can be as high as £1000 plus 6 points on the driving license.
Cyclists can get points taken off their driving licence even when not driving?
@@phantasmaleye3879 I suppose you're still using the road, I'm all for that personally.
@@JakandDaxterAddict I don't drive but yes I cycle on roads.
@@phantasmaleye3879 I question what it like as can get all points want and even if not plan to ever drive what can they do as not sure ban cycling is a thing, I know ban driving is
@@mlee6050 I think disqualification for cyclists would be difficult as there's no licence to suspend. Anyway, cyclists can still be fined and maybe imprisoned for breaking traffic laws.
Absolute guarantee...she will not have even realised that she had done something wrong.
As a driver if we run red light etc is 3 points and a fine, best they get is a talking to, can someone explain why this should be the case
Yeah easily. You get Points and a fine as you need a revocable license to drive a car, if you are deemed to be a dangerous driver the licence can be taken away, on a bike you don't have a licence and so therefor just get the fine part. Why do you need a licence for a car and not a bike ? Ability to cause damage.
@@talonlan At what age should you need a license to cycle on the road then? Has to be applied to all, so every parent must get their child licensed, insured, taxed etc before they can teach them to ride...sounds fair, yes? I'm cool with that...but are you?
Time that a test must be passed for all cyclists that wish to use the road, if caught breaking road laws then you have to produce your cycling license that you must have at all time when using the road
Well it was 3yrs since you made that comment so apparently the 'time that a test must be passed for all cyclists" never happened.
Given that motorists don't even need to carry licences why should cyclists?
@@roaduser6438 no number plates and not possible for some bikes so carrying a license at all times only practical alternative, too many cyclists jumping reds these days and one not long ago crashed into a baby as a mother was using the crossing.
Something has to be done now as these idiots are getting way out of hand and getting very close to killing somebody someday soon.
@@insoft_uk "something has to be done now as these idiots are getting way out of hand"
Westminster City Council did a study and found that it was the pedestrian who was the party at fault in 60% of bike/ped accidents. So whilst it's not unreasonable to think that cyclists (just like all road users) should be accountable, it also seems reasonable that something should be done about the pedestrians that may well be causing the majority of accidents. Do you have any suggestions?
@@roaduser6438 no excuse, cyclists and drivers need to start behaving and lookout for pedestrians, as a cyclist I’ve encountered pedestrians like you described tho guess what I spotted the danger half way up the road before I encountered them as I observe my surroundings.
Just the other day I seen someone running, school children just got out running along beside them at the edge near the road so , had my finger on my horn ready for him when he jumps out onto the side of the road to run around them so I can give him a quick beep just to let him know they is a cyclist approaching from behind and 1 minute later a quick beep, and ready to break, tho just slowing down was enough it’s things like this these red light jumpers are also doing wrong not looking out for potential dangers just racing threw red lights oblivious
@@insoft_uk "no excuse" Do you think I made an excuse? If so what? I'm just looking for people to have balanced views.
"I observe my surroundings" Most people do to a greater or lesser degree.
You appear to have missed the question at the end of my previous comment. You clearly want road users to be accountable. What do you suggest we do to make pedestrians more accountable? You can't solely be thinking it's cyclists that need increased accountability as that would appear biased.
Your comment about red light jumpers does not relate to what we see in the video. The cyclist stopping, looking and going across slowly with the green man.
It is of course worth noting the 3yr Paris trial that concluded that allowing cyclists to pass through some red lights led to a reduction in the number of collisions. This proves that red light running is not inherently risky, but it is of course illegal. I look forward to the laws being reviewed. None of this is to excuse reckless red light running of course.
And they wonder why they have a bad name...
They should have their licence taken away from them.....Oh wait, what licence..... But seriously if they do have a driving licence it should be endorsed and pay a fine.
CF
In France apparently the law is that a cyclist can get points on his car licence... we're quite backward here in the UK.
Nick G, Well then, go out and do something really stupid on a bike, get crushed by a car. And when it comes to charging the auto driver with a crime, we'll just let them off, because bikes shouldn't be held to the same laws, which also means, they don't get the same protections.
The laws are there for EVERYONE . . . From 2 wheels on up.
Nick G, bicycles are vehicles, not pedestrians. If they are to be operated on roadways, then they MUST follow vehicle traffic laws.
Nick G even using that warped logic, pedestrians shouldn’t cross on a red man, so why should cyclists go through red lights?
People aren't vehicles.
It was decided long ago that bicycles were vehicles, and so rules made to protect people from vehicles apply to bicycles.
The people who ride bicycles seem to want ALL the rights of a pedestrian, AND all the rights, but none of the restrictions, of any other vehicle user.
It’s all car user’s fault. Cyclists are perfect. 💀💀💀💀💀
Kind of shocking how many actually run the lights
I ride bikes and drive a car, the lights are red for a reason therefore I stop.
Let's be fair, how about a cyclist gets a red light jump every time a car driver breaks the speed limit.
stupid remark,are you jelous that cars can go fast without much effort from the driver,unlike some saddo on a cycle that has to pedal like f*ck
Use the road use the lights simple
Follow the laws of the road.
The copper couldn't really ignore that could he! I bet the cops were annoyed at having to deal with such an idiot.
Magic.
It's because cyclist's helmets are too small. They need to pull out the brains to fit the helmet..
In Vietnam the offender would be taken straight to an ATM.
Wish that was the case in the UK!
Cyclists are road users like everyone else driving a vehicle. So they should have to pass a test, get a licence, pay road tax and take out minimum third party insurance. Simple!
I'm very rare.stop and all red lights and if anyones using zebra crossing i stop for them as well.it's why i'm still here after riding for over 55 years
Here it cost 100€-300€ to cross a red light with bike so i just wait to safe my money
I think I slowly went through a crossing where everyone visible had finished crossing but the light was still red.
A bicycle is recognized as a vehicle. When riding a bicycle on the road you have the same rights and the same rules as a car.
pay some road tax and get insurance if you plow into a driver its no cost to you few cuts and scrapes back on the road again the next day the damage you do to the cars comes out of the drivers own pocket the trauma as well knowing they hit somebody
Actually you don't have the same rules as a car. You should go back and re-read the Highway Code...you'll note that there are sections applicable to cyclists, some applicable to motorists, some applicable to all...but certainly it is not true that cyclists and motorists have the same rules to follow
Well you can't jump the light with a police car in front of you. You have to get next to it first.
lets level the playing field registration please
@Toographictosayontelevision why if cyclists can grass cars for breaking the law why not the other way around and don't get personal .
Cycling to work the other night the lights went amber so I stopped at short notice, no not because I thought that I'd get free amber nectar, a pedestrian was waiting to cross. He looked at me and then on my right a righteous brother sped thru on the by then red. The original post was 7 years ago and nothing has changed.
And car drivers are the ones who get slated.
what a muppet
Another WARNING not to do it again?
that says it all; "I'm on a bicycle, normal road rules don't apply to me..."
Does kinda indicate that RLJs don't think, at all.
i was crossing a toucan crossing when four cyclists came down, three went through the red one stopped, i took out my phone and took a photo of him and said i can't believe you stopped the look on his face was priceless .
Sadly that sounds about right.
No NUMBER PLATES!! But he got DONE 👏👏
If the police are not satisfied with the ID they can, and often do arrest the individual.
Most people carry a debit card or phone.
I have to give him credit, at least he stopped first. In America, they just blindly fly through daring you to hit them.
What can the police do though? Points on his license? What license? Fine him? Have to get some ID out of him first.
I've known cyclists in Holland to be fined for jumping red lights. Once upon a time we used to have fairly decent law and order here in the UK, but now we just mostly have thug Police, especially in the MET.
A nice safe little arrest with paperwork to cover a large portion of your shift, instead of actually dealing with burglaries, knife crime and issues that really do affect the law abiding public. Sure, the cyclist broke the law, but ffs, if you're as understaffed and up against is as you claim, this isn't serving your turn.. Next video, total takedown of man dropping cigarette but in a built up area..
Plod nowadays, please..
Bike man jumps lights..?
Sad twats...
They really do think they are above the law I have seen them on a580 and Rainford bypass on the main road and they have a 8ft wide cycle path beggers beleif
We have shared bike paths too. They are limited to 10km/hr by law. And I typically ride at 30+ km /hr. So the speed restriction as a fraction of the normal cruising speed is like limiting the M1 motorway to a maximum of 30km/hr for motorvehicles. But don't get started on what happens at intersections. Where if you are on a bike path you have zero rights. Turning vehicles are free to mow you down. So of COURSE a serious rider must be on the road. Duhh.
Well that was silly.
He didn't break any laws
Hope that clown got a fine, can't stand cyclists
So all cyclists get tarred because of a few that can't obey laws. Why the hatred towards the rest of us who DO follow the rules?
His only mistake was stopping for the pigs.
That's what should happen to all cyclists that BLATANTLY DISOBEY!!! the law like this & believe me that's the MAJORITY of them unfortunately.
It's not the majority...but it's definitely higher percentage in cities
Here in Bentonville, AR, because we are trying to be the mt bike capital of the world, they city made a ruling that bikers don't have to follow traffic laws.
Facepalm...
Seems like I owe some cyclist an apology, they're even more stupid than we thought by doing that in full view of the police.
What do police do? can they issue FPN? , can cyclist be banned? , can cyclist have cycle seized?
The police can issue a fixed penalty notice of £30 for red light jumping.
I don't believe that a cyclist can be banned due to not having to take a test / agree to conditions similar to a driving license.
Hi Pat, how's it going? May I feature this clip on my channel? If so, could you tell me where this happened? And do you have any further comment on the incident? Thanks for your consideration
hmm as a lot of cyclist do own n drive cars maybe points and a fine or if they dont have a licence a heavey fine n maybe have to carry identification while cycling
It's time that cyclists had there bike taken for going through red lights and not stopping at zebra crossing's. They may get the pont then that the rules of the road also means them
I see cyclists go through red lights Al the time.
I was starting to wonder if they react or just ignore their front wheels is in the cyclist box
in Liverpool delivery cyclists are allowed to go through red traffic lights because they are carrying hot food
And was a fine issued.. noo ..that would mean enforcing the law
How much is fine in England for going through red light?
Typically £30 but can be as much as £1000
Pat Horridge £30 would be a good lesson. Seems to be a lot of that in
London . Must not be a big issue with the police.
If you jump off and run next to your bike at speed like a cyclocross racer you won't get a ticket, because jaywalking is not an offence.
@Stephen Sullivan I'm not convinced it's true once you're on foot.
@Stephen Sullivan it's not an offence on foot I think but we're both repeating ourselves
Alot of cyclist don't think the rules of the road don't apply to them
Hey! May I use it in compilation? Full credited of course
Yes
@@waterg7611 Gee... awweful kind of you Water G to give someone permission to use someone else's video.
Sure
Was that testing or was that testing.. Off duty plod perhaps? Still not above the law..
One thing I think Cyclists forget is most police drive whether they are on duty or not so they are tired of your bullshit twice over.
Thought cyclists were aloud to go through red lights with not having number plates
I thought 'allowed' was spelled as ALLOWED
I live there.Thats Middleton road right?
i'd love to hear what the officer was saying!
it's not daft, it's arrogant!
And he got 3 points on his license and a fine so his insurance will go up in price I assume? Like fuck, slap on the wrist and don’t do it again more like!
Yes! If only they'd do something about the ones on the pavement.
Thats why car drivers hated bike riders
he should have gone to spec savers how the hell did he not see that jam sandwich ?
that,s what police car,s were called back in the day
Not really jam sandwichs anymore. They're more flurecscent battenberg cakes these days.
yes you are right but cyclist's jump traffic lights all the time they think it's ok even in front of a police car
Then they wonder why they get knocked off!
Surprised the police bothered doing anything.
My God, the horror, imagine the death and carnage that cyclist could have caused by cycling recklessly through that junction at, what, 6mph possibly. Luckily the boys in blue were right there on the spot to hopefully throw the book at this career criminal, the stories they must be able to tell their colleagues when they get back to the station. I feel much safer on the roads with law enforcement of this high standard especially now all other serious crime has apparently been eradicated.
Let's be the only country in the world that requires number plates and insurance for cyclists and get them to pay the non-existent road tax (which drivers don't pay).That'll definitely stop this sort of thing.
Just a couple of months ago a cyclist was convicted of causing a death, having cycled at speed into a pedestrian, who later died. Cycles can kill too...as do scooters, mopeds etc. If you start saying it's OK for cyclists to ignore red lights then why should motorists stop? For the record I am a lifelong cyclist...but one of those who does stop at red lights. I loathe those who disregard other's safety for their own personal gain. Confiscate their bikes, make them pay a hefty fine to get it back...that'll teach them...
@@Penguin_of_Death How the hell do cycles, scooters and mopeds kill?
I cant tell how much i hate bikers which thinking red lights just for all the others...
If you are blind, don't ride bicycle
Never hurt the pride of a policeman. Glad he put the whole recording on so we could see nothing for most of the vid
But what we saw was well worth it!
As one of the majority of bike users who doesn't run red lights this is great to see. Now can the Police also tackle the drivers who run red lights and actually kill people? I see 10x more drivers running red lights than people on bikes - but red lights don't apply if you are late and it only just turned red a few seconds earlier right drivers?
Derek ok that’s absolute tosh. Way more cyclist do it on average than cars. You know why, there are more cars on the road. What’s the worst that could happen to a cyclist running a red light? I known for a driver it could means points or even losing their licence.
@@Anonymous56657 You can't say it's tosh when it's what I see, it's not an opinion, it's what I see. Maybe you live in London where there are 730,000 bike journeys per day? When you go along slowly in a car you might be over/under taken by 500 people on bikes in a 30 min journey and granted you might see 10 or 20 go through red lights as you sit at them. You will also see 5 or so vehicles go through red lights on a similar journey but as you haven't been overtaken by 500 vehicles on that journey the comparison you're making isn't sound. You need to stand at a set of traffic lights and count how many vehicles go through on red - you can't go by how many you see from your car. So you think the problem is bikes because so see a lot more bikes go through traffic light junctions than vehicles on a set journey in the city. The worst that could happen to a 'cyclist' running a red light is instant death. That's why the vast majority don't do it.
On a slow drive through a city you see more different bike users going through junctions than different vehicles on the same journey because bike traffic flows around you while the same vehicles largely stay infront and behind you. So you are seeing 500 different bike users and maybe only 100 different vehicle users around you going in your direction (where you can see the light colours). You may think more bikes go through red but it's not the case. Stand at a set of busy lights and you will see vehicles go through red on every cycle. On my commute I've seen less than 5 bikes go through reds this year but many tens of vehicles including huge trucks.
@builder1a lol if you can't even reply with a sensible point of view that's fine, I know who's full of bullshit. :)
@@Anonymous56657 730k bikes on the roads every day in London. Do you have a figure for cars there?
TBH, that looks more like a taxi than a cop car.
Haha I love it! Would it be OK with you if I use this clip in a compilation? Fully credited of course including your channel name, video title and URL in the description :) Thanks in advance! CRW.
Yes fine. Thanks
Thanks! :)
Hello again! I've recently uploaded my latest biker compilation including your clip! The video is called: "Great Policework, Angry People & Close Passes [Bikers & Motorcycle riders Ep. 20]". You can watch it on my channel :)
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Hopefully she got a fine
This should be legal
they got time to pull a cyclist for RLJ but never the time to catch pavement parking are speeding motorist .but i dont like RLJ full stop and will pull them up over it politely
Why do cyclists think they are exempt from any highway code rules or red lights, Riding on footpaths etc
Not all of us are like that, just as not all motorists are...
They want room on the Roads cycles but not want to keep to the law moterset do it points on license then Lose it not fair
Wow, the police acting like police
It's not worth it. As a cyclist you still get fined for jumping Red lights. £50 on the spot fine I think?
In the Netherlands it's € 85.
so they stop the biker but not the motorbiker?
For what?
i wonder if a bicycle will ever be defined as a “road vehicle”.
Until 10 years ago that is exactly how it was defined here. But they wanted to introduce special restrictions on the bike which they could not do if the bike was just another road vehicle. So they deliberately redefined it to NOT be a road vehicle for the purposes of the act. Motorists have campaigned for things, get what they asked for, then complain about the result. wonderful.
My money is on license plates or disks being required for cycles, disability scooters and e scooters in the next few years. Then the councils can levy a tax.
The, I'm okay Jack fuck you mentality syndrome that our society is now becoming.....Oh officer, what have I done?
Silly should have done what most others do switch to pedestrian mode and ride on the pavement to get round the red light then back to road user
Coppers doing work?Im astouded...
Just so you know, the ratio of irresponsible drivers is almost the same as the ratio of irresponsible cyclist. I've seen it personally. Some are even arrogant. Cyclists use roads too so they also should be given registrations.
Registrations on bikes has been tried many times in many countries it is always an expensive failure that accomplishes nothing.
You are just envious. Get over it.
Pedestrians use roads too. Where should there registration plates go?
@@roaduser6438 They use SIDEWALKS. And there's this thing called PEDESTRIAN LANE. Plus, if a pedestrian hits another pedestrian, they can just say sorry. If a cyclist or a driver hits a pedestrian, it's another story.
@@RogerRocks how could I get envious when I'm also a cyclist and a motorcycle rider? It's called responsibility and humility on road. Not envy.
So the police jump the red light as well
You are driving on the wrong side.
Me: laughs in Spanish.
Not all cyclists do stupid things like this just like not all moterist drink and drive or speed
suikoden1979 true. But many do jump red lights. So many it's great when one gets caught.
Before judging please check the pedestrian light on the feft at 0.12s. The light is green. The cyclist makes a stop and then starts again with a green pedestrian light.
The Motorcycle SHOULD have stopped he had plenty of time
What?
@@fishbmw The motorcyclist should have stopped when the amber light came on he had plenty of time to do so. He could have been pursued by the police. You must STOP if you see an amber or red light at a traffic light, the only exception is if the driver is too close to the lights to stop safely. You are only to close to safely stop If the amber light is illuminated and your vehicle has already passed the white stop line.
He stopped before the white line didn't he. So what are you talking about.
@@dicklouter5892 Thanks for pointing this out I definitly meant CYCLIST. Probably wrote this through the night waiting to fall back asleep