I was the electrical test engineer for the department of transportation in my state. A few pointers for ground loops. First, as you approach a light, try to run over the advance detection loop. This is the ground loop a couple of car lengths before a stop line. This will send a pulse detection to the signal controller. Second, I do not recommend buying a magnet hoping it will place a detection call to the signal controller. Rather, simply shut off your bike and restart. The field generated by your starter is enough to affect the ground loop. I've tested this in the lab and used it for the last 8 years on the road successfully.
You sir, are a hero. I have a sumo DRZ400 in AZ, where these strips are at 90% of lights, and it's usually a 50/50 as to whether or not it'll pick up my bike.
Yes! Was here to post this. A restart has always worked for me. Not sure if newer bikes pump out the same EMI noise as the older bikes I was used to, but I think it still works fine.
@@whereswaldo5740 when it comes to stop lights, there pretty good about understanding bikes won't trigger it. As long as you don't pull out doing a wheelie!!
Hate it when a car behind doesn't understand when I ask them to move up so they can trigger the sensor. They look at you like you're and idiot or crazy lol. I've even had someone give me the finger because they thought I was complaining. Man, I am complaining! Complaining that this light doesn't notice my fata**.
Yeah peoples communication skills are bad as it is . When they are in a vehicle there’s nothing you can do other than get off and draw a diagram of what you’re trying to say
I usually just try to pull up extra far to try and "bait" them into Tripping it 🤣 I literally don't know why people feel like they need to be 6 car lengths behind a motorcycle while stopped lmao 😂
When I was a kid I always thought there was a central location with a bunch of cameras, and some dude just sat there watching all of it and would change them when he pleased 🤣
I’m in Cali. The dead red law explains why the cops haven’t pulled me over for ‘running’ the reds. I’ve looked and shrugged One cop even waved me on from his cruiser
NC here. I've done it with a cop behind me. Bit of a gamble, but they didn't pursue. Either they knew the law (unlikely) or didn't feel like putting in the effort.
As a signal engineer for 30+ years and a biker for even longer the most sensitive part of the loop is the corners. Run over a corner of the loop with your wheel and stop with a wheel on the corner will guarantee detection. Do not sit in the middle of the loop having only run over a single bit of loop. The wheels a 30mm off the loop will be picked up a lot better than an engine 300mm from the loop, provide the wheels are conductive. A corner will pick up even a pushbike wheel. When testing the loops we can use a hacksaw or a few twists of cable to trigger the detection
Different lights around Perth have an actual markings with a motorcycle image to show where motorcycles should position themselves. Pre handy! Great vid
This video has changed my life. I’m a QLDer as well and had so many issues with light changes. Now I know where to place the bike and haven’t had an issue since
same technology @ the toll roads with cameras....ride the white stripe through as you pass under the cameras and they never know you are there...I conveniently do a lane change under the cameras....have yet to receive a bill in the mail
Just saw this video. you got a chuckle out of me when you were sitting on your bike having coffee or tea while waiting for the light to change. I can definitely relate. I live in a rural area, and sometimes when I get off late, there is hardly any road traffic. occasionally I've had to run the light. I've contacted my local DOT and all they tell me, is that there might be an issue with the sensor. I've done what you have mention, but it's not working. next time I'll try what another poster recommends about restarting the bike and see what happens.
If you need to look up u s c Title 18 section 241 and 242... because if there's no danger and no possibility of creating a victim at the time and Circumstance they can't give you a ticket anyway and they should be put in their place if they do💪
@@svpmvp2433 actually red lights and stop signs are a matter of consideration when there is traffic... and of course they are the responsible thing to pay attention to and I don't condone just speeding through them but, in an actual court of law find it by the US Constitution in contrast to each States Constitution, one would have to have proof that the decision to roll through a stop sign or run through a red light had caused harm or endangered someone and if there was nobody around the officer and the judges can go f*** themselves because constitutional law doesn't even have the ability to be used to force us to wear seat belts or helmets for that matter.... but our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents were suckers in the majority and that's why we have economic discrimination and administrative crimes based on fear paranoia and a traumatized extreme circumstance that oppresses American people and families and causes a lot of damage. .... but anybody that thinks that our concentration can be used to allow someone to be totally Lawless and irresponsible in regards to everyone else is wrong. ... in the end it's all about the paperwork and the pressure and threats that they put against us that we can Count Their paperwork with. .... this also extends to things like registrations and titling and Licensing, but I will say that I do believe a plate for identification only is necessary and insurance is the responsible thing in today's overpopulated and busy areas. if anyone would like to see some of the scope of the reality that I speak of you are free to watch any of my videos on our civil and constitutional rights and learn how to write your own paperwork and represent yourself in court and also see the definition of how the systematic arrangement of administrative forces puts people in jail and allows cops to feel like they have the right to just impede on our freedoms when they choose. They do not have that right. 💪🇺🇸🌿
Hands down, this is one of the best vids I have seen about traffic light induction. The beginning of the story had me rolling. Definitely quality work!!! Cheers.
It will be a cold day in hell b4 I will sit through 2 light cycles and then go. After making a complete stop and if it clear to go 5 maybe 10 seconds later I'M GONE.
In my state and lots of states in the United States, you can run a red light at first safe chance after one complete cycle of not getting a green light.
@@Kwackajack Arkansas California Idaho Indiana Kansas Minnesota Missouri Nevada North Carolina Oklahoma South Carolina Tennessee Utah Washington Wisconsin Virginia
You need to make it a goal to begin paying more attention to the world around you. Begin to notice everything. We don't want to become so apathetic and careless that we become drones. This video was awesome, and it's something they should teach in school (instead of the bullshit useless information).
I'll give this information a try. Thanks! I live in one of those "Dead Red Laws" and have gone during a very... very long Red Light. Basically treated it like it was a stop sign were I had to wait a couple of minutes before I could go.
The loop trick works. There’s a traffic light that you pass when entering/leaving my work. It WILL NOT switch unless I ride over the wire and stay there. I’ve sat there for quite a long time before I learned this trick.
I basically already knew about everything that you said except for the "DEAD RED" law, which it showed that my state had that law but 9 times out of 10 I just run the red light anyhow. I ride a moped which has a hell of alot less medal than a motorcycle. TRAFFIC LIGHTS NEVER CHANGE FOR A MOPED, it doesn't matter if there is a car behind me or not, I AM GOING TO RUN A RED LIGHT WHILE I'M ON MY MOPED.
New rider here. I encountered this near my home. Yes i too thought the sensors were weight triggered. Now i know the truth. I've been running the red light but i'll try these tips next time.
What I've found is that there is absolutely no way a sportbike will trigger the magnetic loops. I've tried moving my bike, and putting the kickstand down, and even flashing my lights, in WA state. Nothing works. The only ferrous metal is the crankshaft, connecting rods, timing chain, camshaft, and transmission. It's not enough metal, and you'd have to be absolutely perfectly positioned to trigger the induction loop. It's better to just run the red light after a full cycle, which is legal. Or to simply avoid the intersection (best idea). You can easily avoid these desolate traffic lights in obscure roadways, by just planning your route. Following traffic on main roads, and avoiding stoplights altogether on side streets, is the easiest method.
I've learned quite a bit about traffic lights the past year or so. This video is informative and well done. I always thought it was stupid to lay down fresh asphalt, then turn around and cut it up. There is one light near my work that never operates properly, and it's annoying when the car behind won't pull up close enough behind to trigger the sensor. I've learned if no car is around to just avoid the light.
Dude those wires are frail and heat sensitive. If you lay them down and then pour hot asphalt on top of it, you'll fry your circuits and anything else laid down. Road first. Sensors second.
Dude...that intro was hilarious as heck and absolutely genius! You also knocked this one clean out of the park with super great content! Thanks for the video and keep up the good work!
GREAT info! I just checked, and my state allows riders to circumvent being stuck at a light. I have experienced this late at night and it's annoying af to be stuck with no car around to help trigger the light.
I just go right on red and go back through the other way. I also go slowly through corner parking lots at notorious lights. Especially at night. And I’ve had cops sitting there and not have an issue.
This is excellent. I thought maybe I was just imagining things. One thing that people never think of, is to simply take a different route. More often than not, people don't plan ahead, and they try to pull their vehicle into terrible traffic conditions. When you notice a turn lane that has absolutely no cars, consider driving past it, and turning on a side street, instead of a traffic light. Simple.
This can only work in some areas. I frequently encounter 'stuck' red lights leaving places that are off a busy roadway. Last time I pulled into a hotel parking lot to make a legal U-turn, and was stuck at the light for a while before I checked traffic and pulled through the 🚦. Also if you're riding in a city with a lot of one ways or dead ends, you don't often have the choice to take a different route.
As a newbie this happened to me and I was so upset. I didn't know if I should run or what. After 3 cycles I and the car behind me did. Now I know. Just get the car to car ahead of me. Thank you!
I've told several of my family and friends about these loops (car drivers)...basically a magnetic sensor. Most people don't know about them. So many times I've told people to drive their cars forward just a few inches after being stuck behind drivers who are too shy to drive closer to the intersection and end up stopping short of the sensors. Excellent topic for a video, good job.
Well done young man! It’s nice to see a motovlogger making the biking community better. Ya actually remind me of early FortNine stuff. Two wheel down little brother ✌️
I appreciate the support mate! Just trying to put out the content I would've liked to watch when I first started riding. Any other topics you'd like me to cover?
@@Kwackajack Well, the two biggest issues I see with newer riders these days are target fixation and poor lane position. Since neither is natural or intuitive I figure it is 100% the fault of the older generation in failing to pass on what we know. Anything you could do to help new riders to understand the importance of either of these concepts would (I think) be a mitzvah. ✌️
Thank you very much for this info. I have spent time on my Ninja 1000 rocking back and forth thinking the cut outs were pressure plates to no avail. Very informative vid. 😎
We used earth magnets attached to the frame seem to work just fine. Too trigger the the lite ... and stopped on the second loop or square on the road .... Was this all for nothing lol
from southern california, excellent vid you probably just added about 45mins a day of free open road to my rides. no joke this will help so much thanks!
What I’ve learned is don’t stop in the center of the lane. As you approach the intersection take note of the cut out lines in the road where the wire sensors are to the left and right portion of the lane and stop directly above it as opposed to stopping in between them. Doing so gives you a better chance of the magnetic sensor detecting you.
I had this on lutwyche road in Brisbane during peak hour a few years back. Had to get cars to go around me to trigger it then ride off after missing 3 sets of lights and cars filling up behind me. I wish your video existed then haha.
A motorcycle cop in my town told me that after sitting through a few cycles, it's okay to safely move on. It happens to them as well. Another cop told me the general rule they allow is to safely go after a few minutes. Typically it happens in turn only lanes where it's easy to judge when oncoming traffic passes and safe to make the turn. California where I live has slowly been making the sensors more motorcycle friendly and I remember this began back when motorcycle enthusiast and then governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said that he'd get that program started. No need to force law abiding motorcyclists into law breakers and I'm sure there have been enough traffic court arguments to force the government to do something about it.
I'm loving what your doing and where your going with this channel. Bloopers are a huge added bonus, and that was a great intro. Keep up the good work. I'll keep watching! Peace.
@@Kwackajack Maybe some tips on how to ride for beginners. Also just some everyday riding maybe showing what its like where you are, and take us to some of your favorite places..... Whatever comes to mind.
I know quite a few motorcyclists in the area I live in, I don't ride but since I like the cruising routes they do...I sometimes get an invite for the weekend rides and they put me up front...I drive a 2 door car and trip the lights for the group every time...makes the day more pleasurable for them.
Very good video. In many cases, only moving metal will induce a change in the magnetic field so I always try to weave the bike across the line before coming to a stop; and yes, I always stop directly over the line. A bike with an aluminum frame has a greatly reduced chance of triggering a loop detector. If it appears that the bike hasn't been detected, sometimes turning off the bike and engaging the starter is enough to induce the needed trigger, but you'd need to be right over the line. Although I've never had to test this in court, if it's clear that the bike hasn't been detected, I'll treat the light as defective, which in Ontario Canada would become a four-way stop and I'll simply proceed when it's safe.
@@ppower7945 Totally agree. I would never test that out at a camera intersection, or if I think a cop is close by. What I have done more than once is make a legal right turn, a legal U-turn and then a right turn. Far more dangerous than just running the light, I know.
I live in an area that recently had the pavement at an intersection re-paved erasing the mag loop. Tried everything to set off the light but it didn't trigger. Ultimately, having a bunch of alternate routes that avoid the problem intersection helps.
In Canada, there is a sign painted on the road and sometimes a road sign panel. The wire has to be under the asphalt and is not visible or it would need to be repaired every winter.
I've learned to pull all the way up to the stop line and place my front wheel on the stop line itself. The induction loops where I live are close enough to the stop line that the motor is over the induction loop or very close to it. It works the majority of the time - I do have to admit I'm sometimes surprised when it does work though...
Good informational video as a retired traffic signal Tech, couple notes on the common induction loop. The corners are most sensitive on the square ones the loops are the only part of the detection and the lead in wires to the loop will not detect you All. The detection zone height is approximately half of its width dimension most loops are approximately 6' by 6' so the detection height is about 3' something to think about if your traffic signal technician and you have big rigs. Also loops may be under a layer of asphalt In this case good luck and you might be best to do what you think is prudent to get out of the intersection. And if you think motorcyclists have it bad you should try being a bicyclist in those cases we would encourage the bicyclist to report the problem detection area and we would actually mark the loops out with spray paint so they could learn where it is. Good luck all.
I have to agree that riding over the corners does the trick. I hit both wires at the corner and then swerve over the straight wire. This works nearly every time.
Where i am in the us they tend to use induction loops. I usually just give a rev or two and it’ll change almost instantly. We also have a thirty second “dead red rule”
I question if the revving the engine really works. This implies that the internals of the engine are disturbing the magnetic field enough to trip the sensor, but the pistons and con rods are enclosed by a lot of metal, which is a magnetic shield. Did you try an experiment at a problematic intersection, where you stop at the same spot, with and without revving?
Years ago, I was a driver helper for UPS. There was a light with an infrared sensor on our route that would get stuck because of the low sun in the evening. Even the UPS truck wouldn't trip the light. Legality or UPS policy is probably against this, but I would hop out and hit the crosswalk button when it got bad.
There is no choice but to just drive away, if the light doesn't change. But I don't think there is a law. I feel like they want motorcycles to suffer, everywhere except California.
@Curt - five seconds of research can be amazing. Scroll down after following this link: www.bikebandit.com/blog/how-dead-red-laws-let-motorcycles-run-red-lights-legally
Good on you mate, being in Sydney I have faced this issue quite a few times, although i own a big Kawasaki Vulcan but even such a big bike with lots of metal fails to trigger the sensor some times.
Really interesting video and really well put together. Nice to see someone be able to articulate points nicely with lots of information and not overly flashy or in your face.
For being a small youtuber ive been following a while since I got my license, I must say...you do have great content ideas. Keep it up, this was insanely helpful.
I've tried to get people to move up and some don't, which makes me look like an idiot who's just randomly waving his hands. Most do move up, though, once they figure out the light's not turning green.
The problem is that nothing is going through those people's heads, or at least nothing related to driving. It's the same in other situations too. Today most drivers attention is on their phone or their "infotainment system" or something else going on inside their car. I've been riding since 1964 and never saw so many oblivious moronic drivers as I've been seeing in the last few years.
All the lights in my town don't turn green and I have to wait for a car to arrive behind me before it will allow me to pass. This information is super handy!!! I can now stop avoiding those routes and try putting center of bike over the lines :) my town is small so hopefully contacting the local council will work too if this trick doesn't help.
Back when I drove in London UK main roads into the city center were sequenced, so if you started off at green from the first one and kept between 29/30 mph you would clear the lot without stopping. I found a similar road set today in Ho Chi Minh (Saigon) it was fun the watch the boy racers, tearing away from one set of lights and catch them up at the next and I'd just glide through.
Excellent information Kwackajack! More riders should pay attention to this. I have a couple difficult lights where I'm at and I usually end up pulling forward and hoping a car will come behind me to trigger...if that doesn't work then I'll generally jump the red or turn a different way. Great vid!
I live in a town with one traffic light controlled intersection and get stuck 50 percent of the time😅 Cheers for the vid, looking forward to using the techniques instead of launching (safely) through the red light like ive been doing
All my motorcycles have center stands. So when stopping for a red traffic light, I always stop exactly in the middle above the loop line, and then bring the center stand down with my left heel, so that both legs of the stand touch the ground on top of the line, and keep it there for a couple of seconds. So far this has always worked for me.
Great vid! Very informative. Although, I wouldn’t recommend putting your kickstand down at a traffic stop as that would mean that your bike is in neutral, unless your bike doesn’t have an auto cut off when the kickstand is put down. Even then, you should always be ready to go and perform an evasive action to avoid potentially being rear ended by a vehicle.
I liked the video because of the nice and clear explanation, thanks. But in here, the traffic lights are probably time-triggered, which means we can't do anything for them :D
I remember when Sydney had pressure pad triggers back in my teen years. They were like a heavy rubber garden hose mounted in a concrete base and the weight of the car squashed them enough to trigger the system. Those traffic counter hoses we sometimes see are much thinner than those old ones. However, the rubber back then became brittle over time and they would crack apart and no longer work. Many a time my step-father would ask me to get out and press the pedestrian button when the trigger wasn't working.
I live in a small town and the main center of town red light sensor was not working for motorcycles, so I would circumvent this by slipping into an adjacent parking lot and bypassing the red light all together. A local cop saw me do this late one night and stopped me. I explained that the sensor on the light would not trigger for a motorcycle and he was cool about it. We even filmed a short video on his cell phone so he could send it to city maintenance so they would address the issue. The light now works perfectly.
useful information thanks mate just one note police have told me that after 3 cycles if it hasn't gone green. you can go as long as its safe. I wouldn't do that with a red light camera there tho lol
This was an interesting video. Been riding for years and driving a car for years I always figured it was some kind of roadwork cut out where they installed a scale after the asphalt had been laid down. Can't wait to get on the bike later and see if it actually works.
Where I am bicycling is common enough that for many intersections they have a spot marked on the ground near the stop line of where to park your bike in order to trigger the light. Not sure if this is another smaller induction loop or it's just marking optimal positioning but they work really well
Hi thanks for your information that was very useful ... in the centre of my motorcycle on the bottom just behind the ftont tyre .I have four blocks of 4 Neodymium magnet, it is definitely a God send !!...and is perfect for triggering traffic lights anywhere I go in the UK👍🏽👍🏽😊
I've been stuck a couple times extra early in the morning going to work. Thought about running the light, but you know that would be when the cop comes around the corner. So I put the kickstand down and quickly jet over to the crosswalk button hit it a few times and jet back. I turn my flashers on for extra security if you don't have flashers maybe a turn signal. You run the risk of your bike getting hit when it's unattended but also that early in the morning people really aren't paying attention for a bike stopped at a crosswalk anyway. The dead red lie in my state. If you're skipped two rounds you can go roll on red. Ride hard drive Safe
Solid vid💯👍🏽🏍 I actually did think those lines were pressure activated. Thank goodness we have the “dead red” law in California. I stop for about 30 seconds and hit it🔥🦾
Now I understand why these specific traffic lights near where I live never activate when I ride my bicycle, usually I just go on the pavement and go around because it never works :/ can’t wait to test this next time
I remember I was doing a long ride it was almost midnight completely empty road, sat at a junction looking at the camera debating if I should just go or not for 10min until somone came up behind me and triggered it lmao.
Ride my Ninja 300 about 5yrs... Do remember, earlier I did tried the magnet attached on bike and it's true - it does NOT work... Thanks for the video ✌️
@@whereswaldo5740 I got mine on Amazon under 20$, since it was useless for that traffic light, I use it to keep bolts together when I work on my bike :)
At my previous GP's I used to wait for another patient to exit in a car and follow them out through the lights as the induction loop wouldn't pick up my bike. During visits last year, in the middle of the pandemic there were no other patients as visits were strictly controlled, so I had to carefully take a few red lights, but there were next to no other vehicles on the road. The induction system is great, when it's properly calibrated.
Good content on this common and frustrating motorcycle - traffic light problem. I've used 'dead red' stop and go (as you would at a common STOP sign) many times regardless of state law. This seems intuitive enough since both the sign and the light serve the same purpose. However, in a multi-lane road with turn lanes, this can be a dangerous puzzle, especially when there is moderate or heavy traffic. An alternative to a potential ticket for running a red light that may work in some situations is to simply make a right turn, then u-turn when practical and go back through the intersection with the green light.
Good video. I have found that Lake County, Illinois, is quite responsive to complaints about non-functional traffic lights. They can't fix it if they don't know there's a problem. And when in doubt I right on red and pull U turn where I can.
I had a car the other day not trigger the lights for like 5 changes, I thought they were on the sensor but I guess not enough to trigger it. They ended up running the red arrow and triggering it.
Here in Wisconsin we have the Motorcyle Red Light Law, if the light fails to trigger after forty-five seconds you can look both ways to make sure traffic is clear and then proceed through the red light.
Good info. I'm an electrical engineer and already knew about induction loops. I was already stopping directly above the loop coil and some still don't trigger. I did learn some good info in this video, though. Thanks. I'm seeing people in cars stopping 1-2 car lengths back so the sensor isn't tripped. It must be deliberate. Is there some hoax email that is conning people into this foolishness?
Yes!! I thought is was just overly polite drivers here in the South. Drives me crazy. I actually had a cop do that. I actually got off my bike after a few cycles of the light and that idiot just sat there looking at phone. I finally just ran the light.
Good to know, I've come across 2 In the UK, my local area, will give it a go or try, especially at night time, when no cars on the road, waiting 1 time, 10 mins!!!, so incase of who's watching who, with out any penalty, I've switched engine off, and pushed motorcycle across the line and light...so technically, I haven't driven through a red light... 👍, then carried on, nice to know this, thought some traffic watching worker taking a urine sample, taking the piss, lol 😂, now I know... Wasn't going totally mad...lol 😂 ✌ & 💖 🌍 we 🙏
Near my home in the US, it seems that my high exit ramp velocity increases the chances the video "sees" me, it may also increase the advance induction loop signal since most of my bikes are aluminum, not steel. I think the induction loops don't see aluminum, just steel as it is magnetic. The starter idea below seems like a good idea.
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I was the electrical test engineer for the department of transportation in my state. A few pointers for ground loops. First, as you approach a light, try to run over the advance detection loop. This is the ground loop a couple of car lengths before a stop line. This will send a pulse detection to the signal controller. Second, I do not recommend buying a magnet hoping it will place a detection call to the signal controller. Rather, simply shut off your bike and restart. The field generated by your starter is enough to affect the ground loop. I've tested this in the lab and used it for the last 8 years on the road successfully.
Thanks for your input mate! I'm gonna pin this
Interesting. Gonna test this this out.
You sir, are a hero. I have a sumo DRZ400 in AZ, where these strips are at 90% of lights, and it's usually a 50/50 as to whether or not it'll pick up my bike.
That’s good info. I have a few that get me around the house. Looking both ways and Running the light works also.
Yes! Was here to post this. A restart has always worked for me. Not sure if newer bikes pump out the same EMI noise as the older bikes I was used to, but I think it still works fine.
I’m a fan of jumping off and hitting the crosswalk button real quick lol
That's bloody genius
😂 like the good ol days lmfao
I like that!
I always do that. My older brother taught me that one.
@@WendysFries I do it in my Jeep when I have the doors off too
I just run the damn light once it completes the cycle without changing, pretty much treating it as a stop sign.
Great video, thank you
Yup!
It's legal where I'm at for bikes to run red lights
Ona real
I’ve come up to lights and a cop was there and he’d wave me through. And behind me and wave me on.
@@whereswaldo5740 when it comes to stop lights, there pretty good about understanding bikes won't trigger it. As long as you don't pull out doing a wheelie!!
Hate it when a car behind doesn't understand when I ask them to move up so they can trigger the sensor. They look at you like you're and idiot or crazy lol. I've even had someone give me the finger because they thought I was complaining. Man, I am complaining! Complaining that this light doesn't notice my fata**.
Haha I've experienced that too. Hopefully this helps stop that
@@Kwackajack it has. Amazing video man, truly
Yeah peoples communication skills are bad as it is .
When they are in a vehicle there’s nothing you can do other than get off and draw a diagram of what you’re trying to say
Be patient with the cagers, this is a motorcycle only problem they never think of.
I usually just try to pull up extra far to try and "bait" them into Tripping it 🤣 I literally don't know why people feel like they need to be 6 car lengths behind a motorcycle while stopped lmao 😂
When I was a kid I always thought there was a central location with a bunch of cameras, and some dude just sat there watching all of it and would change them when he pleased 🤣
Wait ,you mean there isn’t??
Im there is in big cities, they just monitor.
Me to🤣
The man behind the curtain...
I used to think there were miniature musicians in my radio
I’m in Cali.
The dead red law explains why the cops haven’t pulled me over for ‘running’ the reds.
I’ve looked and shrugged
One cop even waved me on from his cruiser
What a badass 😎
@@christian3050 ~ right? I’m such a rebel 😂
I'm in a Northern California city; the one with no left turns, no synchronized lights.
@@Ramon51650 ~ 😂😂😂
I think I know that place!
NC here. I've done it with a cop behind me. Bit of a gamble, but they didn't pursue. Either they knew the law (unlikely) or didn't feel like putting in the effort.
As a signal engineer for 30+ years and a biker for even longer the most sensitive part of the loop is the corners. Run over a corner of the loop with your wheel and stop with a wheel on the corner will guarantee detection. Do not sit in the middle of the loop having only run over a single bit of loop. The wheels a 30mm off the loop will be picked up a lot better than an engine 300mm from the loop, provide the wheels are conductive. A corner will pick up even a pushbike wheel. When testing the loops we can use a hacksaw or a few twists of cable to trigger the detection
Great advice! Thanks for your input mate 🙏🏻
Different lights around Perth have an actual markings with a motorcycle image to show where motorcycles should position themselves. Pre handy! Great vid
Oh really? Yea that would definitely be handy
Cool! Must visit oz.
@@stevek8829 in South africa approaching hijackers is normally enough...😉
Yh. Usually straight in the middle
Thats super cool!
This video has changed my life. I’m a QLDer as well and had so many issues with light changes. Now I know where to place the bike and haven’t had an issue since
Happy to hear that mate, glad it helped!
same technology @ the toll roads with cameras....ride the white stripe through as you pass under the cameras and they never know you are there...I conveniently do a lane change under the cameras....have yet to receive a bill in the mail
@@brianstokes7687 Hmmm... it wouldn't take much for the cameras to have a slightly wider field given more pixels in more recent cameras.
@@awuma camera has nothing to do with the ground loop your avoiding which triggers the camera to take a picture.
Just saw this video. you got a chuckle out of me when you were sitting on your bike having coffee or tea while waiting for the light to change. I can definitely relate. I live in a rural area, and sometimes when I get off late, there is hardly any road traffic. occasionally I've had to run the light. I've contacted my local DOT and all they tell me, is that there might be an issue with the sensor. I've done what you have mention, but it's not working. next time I'll try what another poster recommends about restarting the bike and see what happens.
I’ll wait long enough so that if the man is watching he can’t say I didn’t. After that screw that light, I’m going.
If you need to look up u s c Title 18 section 241 and 242... because if there's no danger and no possibility of creating a victim at the time and Circumstance they can't give you a ticket anyway and they should be put in their place if they do💪
Ya i run red lights everyday
@@svpmvp2433 actually red lights and stop signs are a matter of consideration when there is traffic... and of course they are the responsible thing to pay attention to and I don't condone just speeding through them but, in an actual court of law find it by the US Constitution in contrast to each States Constitution, one would have to have proof that the decision to roll through a stop sign or run through a red light had caused harm or endangered someone and if there was nobody around the officer and the judges can go f*** themselves because constitutional law doesn't even have the ability to be used to force us to wear seat belts or helmets for that matter.... but our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents were suckers in the majority and that's why we have economic discrimination and administrative crimes based on fear paranoia and a traumatized extreme circumstance that oppresses American people and families and causes a lot of damage.
.... but anybody that thinks that our concentration can be used to allow someone to be totally Lawless and irresponsible in regards to everyone else is wrong.
... in the end it's all about the paperwork and the pressure and threats that they put against us that we can Count Their paperwork with.
.... this also extends to things like registrations and titling and Licensing, but I will say that I do believe a plate for identification only is necessary and insurance is the responsible thing in today's overpopulated and busy areas.
if anyone would like to see some of the scope of the reality that I speak of you are free to watch any of my videos on our civil and constitutional rights and learn how to write your own paperwork and represent yourself in court and also see the definition of how the systematic arrangement of administrative forces puts people in jail and allows cops to feel like they have the right to just impede on our freedoms when they choose.
They do not have that right.
💪🇺🇸🌿
@@artsomniacv-logcitybydanie1249 so are you one of these sovereign citizens?
@@chopperchopster educate yourself.
This is my video on the matter:
ruclips.net/video/JBCgZcUN2QE/видео.html
Hands down, this is one of the best vids I have seen about traffic light induction. The beginning of the story had me rolling. Definitely quality work!!! Cheers.
Cheers mate! It was a fun one to film haha
Im a fan of waiting through 2 lights, then going on the third, as long as it’s clear, regardless of light color
Some cities in Florida have red light cameras. At night sometimes those lights don't turn green.
I wait for one..
It will be a cold day in hell b4 I will sit through 2 light cycles and then go. After making a complete stop and if it clear to go 5 maybe 10 seconds later I'M GONE.
Legal in Washington state
@Phil Jones In my country you don't have to, because if the camera cant capture your face, the police are powerless.
In my state and lots of states in the United States, you can run a red light at first safe chance after one complete cycle of not getting a green light.
Yea I mentioned those 'dead red' laws. What state are you in mate? And is it a common thing that you do?
@@Kwackajack Arkansas
California
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Minnesota
Missouri
Nevada
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Tennessee
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin
Virginia
@@Kwackajack there may be more. This list is from 2014. We keep trying to get dead red laws passed in Texas along with lane splitting, to no avail.
PA also has this...its called ride on red
In Illinois you are allowed to run it after waiting 2 mins with no green.
This just blew my mind, I never even thought about how it all works.
Yea I think most see it as a pressure pad or scale 🤷🏻♂️
You need to make it a goal to begin paying more attention to the world around you. Begin to notice everything. We don't want to become so apathetic and careless that we become drones. This video was awesome, and it's something they should teach in school (instead of the bullshit useless information).
I'll give this information a try. Thanks! I live in one of those "Dead Red Laws" and have gone during a very... very long Red Light. Basically treated it like it was a stop sign were I had to wait a couple of minutes before I could go.
The loop trick works. There’s a traffic light that you pass when entering/leaving my work. It WILL NOT switch unless I ride over the wire and stay there. I’ve sat there for quite a long time before I learned this trick.
I basically already knew about everything that you said except for the "DEAD RED" law, which it showed that my state had that law but 9 times out of 10 I just run the red light anyhow. I ride a moped which has a hell of alot less medal than a motorcycle. TRAFFIC LIGHTS NEVER CHANGE FOR A MOPED, it doesn't matter if there is a car behind me or not, I AM GOING TO RUN A RED LIGHT WHILE I'M ON MY MOPED.
New rider here. I encountered this near my home. Yes i too thought the sensors were weight triggered. Now i know the truth. I've been running the red light but i'll try these tips next time.
What I've found is that there is absolutely no way a sportbike will trigger the magnetic loops. I've tried moving my bike, and putting the kickstand down, and even flashing my lights, in WA state. Nothing works. The only ferrous metal is the crankshaft, connecting rods, timing chain, camshaft, and transmission. It's not enough metal, and you'd have to be absolutely perfectly positioned to trigger the induction loop. It's better to just run the red light after a full cycle, which is legal. Or to simply avoid the intersection (best idea). You can easily avoid these desolate traffic lights in obscure roadways, by just planning your route. Following traffic on main roads, and avoiding stoplights altogether on side streets, is the easiest method.
Stopping on the line and rocking back and forth has always worked on my CRF250L. Thx for the video.
I've learned quite a bit about traffic lights the past year or so. This video is informative and well done. I always thought it was stupid to lay down fresh asphalt, then turn around and cut it up. There is one light near my work that never operates properly, and it's annoying when the car behind won't pull up close enough behind to trigger the sensor. I've learned if no car is around to just avoid the light.
Dude those wires are frail and heat sensitive. If you lay them down and then pour hot asphalt on top of it, you'll fry your circuits and anything else laid down. Road first. Sensors second.
@@rockettrades2229 No. They are robust and heat resistant. They are NOT sensitive to heat at all.
That intro is amazing 😂😂 best video to date, had no idea that it wasn’t scales under the road
Hahaha, thanks mate! Was a lot of fun making this one, glad you liked it
I died laughing. That was so great!
Legit funny af intro!!!
Used to be scales back in the day
Dude...that intro was hilarious as heck and absolutely genius! You also knocked this one clean out of the park with super great content! Thanks for the video and keep up the good work!
GREAT info! I just checked, and my state allows riders to circumvent being stuck at a light. I have experienced this late at night and it's annoying af to be stuck with no car around to help trigger the light.
Glad it helped! What state are you in mate?
I just go right on red and go back through the other way.
I also go slowly through corner parking lots at notorious lights. Especially at night. And I’ve had cops sitting there and not have an issue.
This is excellent. I thought maybe I was just imagining things. One thing that people never think of, is to simply take a different route. More often than not, people don't plan ahead, and they try to pull their vehicle into terrible traffic conditions. When you notice a turn lane that has absolutely no cars, consider driving past it, and turning on a side street, instead of a traffic light. Simple.
This can only work in some areas. I frequently encounter 'stuck' red lights leaving places that are off a busy roadway. Last time I pulled into a hotel parking lot to make a legal U-turn, and was stuck at the light for a while before I checked traffic and pulled through the 🚦. Also if you're riding in a city with a lot of one ways or dead ends, you don't often have the choice to take a different route.
As a newbie this happened to me and I was so upset. I didn't know if I should run or what. After 3 cycles I and the car behind me did. Now I know. Just get the car to car ahead of me. Thank you!
I've told several of my family and friends about these loops (car drivers)...basically a magnetic sensor. Most people don't know about them. So many times I've told people to drive their cars forward just a few inches after being stuck behind drivers who are too shy to drive closer to the intersection and end up stopping short of the sensors. Excellent topic for a video, good job.
Well done young man! It’s nice to see a motovlogger making the biking community better. Ya actually remind me of early FortNine stuff. Two wheel down little brother ✌️
I appreciate the support mate! Just trying to put out the content I would've liked to watch when I first started riding. Any other topics you'd like me to cover?
@@Kwackajack Well, the two biggest issues I see with newer riders these days are target fixation and poor lane position. Since neither is natural or intuitive I figure it is 100% the fault of the older generation in failing to pass on what we know. Anything you could do to help new riders to understand the importance of either of these concepts would (I think) be a mitzvah. ✌️
Great suggestions, especially the target fixation!
In the U.S., the loops are circle shaped as well. I find that putting the kickstand pad down on the line works best.
Thanks for the info. I usually don't have this problem with my cruiser, but I have seen it with smaller bikes.
Thank you very much for this info. I have spent time on my Ninja 1000 rocking back and forth thinking the cut outs were pressure plates to no avail. Very informative vid. 😎
Nicely done video! I've heard turning the bike on and off while sitting at the induction loops can sometimes trigger them too.
We used earth magnets attached to the frame seem to work just fine. Too trigger the the lite ... and stopped on the second loop or square on the road ....
Was this all for nothing lol
Best intro! Laughed so hard! So great to see so much support for your vids! keep up the great work!
Thankyou friend!
from southern california, excellent vid you probably just added about 45mins a day of free open road to my rides. no joke this will help so much thanks!
Happy to help!
Appreciate the study and time you took to help so many riders. May you and yours be safe. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
What I’ve learned is don’t stop in the center of the lane. As you approach the intersection take note of the cut out lines in the road where the wire sensors are to the left and right portion of the lane and stop directly above it as opposed to stopping in between them. Doing so gives you a better chance of the magnetic sensor detecting you.
I had this on lutwyche road in Brisbane during peak hour a few years back. Had to get cars to go around me to trigger it then ride off after missing 3 sets of lights and cars filling up behind me. I wish your video existed then haha.
A motorcycle cop in my town told me that after sitting through a few cycles, it's okay to safely move on. It happens to them as well.
Another cop told me the general rule they allow is to safely go after a few minutes. Typically it happens in turn only lanes where it's easy to judge when oncoming traffic passes and safe to make the turn.
California where I live has slowly been making the sensors more motorcycle friendly and I remember this began back when motorcycle enthusiast and then governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said that he'd get that program started. No need to force law abiding motorcyclists into law breakers and I'm sure there have been enough traffic court arguments to force the government to do something about it.
I'm loving what your doing and where your going with this channel. Bloopers are a huge added bonus, and that was a great intro. Keep up the good work. I'll keep watching! Peace.
Cheers mate! I appreciate the support
What sort of topics would you like to see me cover next?
@@Kwackajack Maybe some tips on how to ride for beginners. Also just some everyday riding maybe showing what its like where you are, and take us to some of your favorite places..... Whatever comes to mind.
Thanks for the reply! New video up tomorrow is a Motovlog to a beautiful local spot where we send up the drone 🙌🏻
@@Kwackajack looking forward to it.
I know quite a few motorcyclists in the area I live in, I don't ride but since I like the cruising routes they do...I sometimes get an invite for the weekend rides and they put me up front...I drive a 2 door car and trip the lights for the group every time...makes the day more pleasurable for them.
Very good video. In many cases, only moving metal will induce a change in the magnetic field so I always try to weave the bike across the line before coming to a stop; and yes, I always stop directly over the line. A bike with an aluminum frame has a greatly reduced chance of triggering a loop detector. If it appears that the bike hasn't been detected, sometimes turning off the bike and engaging the starter is enough to induce the needed trigger, but you'd need to be right over the line. Although I've never had to test this in court, if it's clear that the bike hasn't been detected, I'll treat the light as defective, which in Ontario Canada would become a four-way stop and I'll simply proceed when it's safe.
Lens law perhaps?
I'm in ONT as well - problem is we now have those cash grab red light cameras and you'll never beat them in court no matter what.
@@ppower7945 Totally agree. I would never test that out at a camera intersection, or if I think a cop is close by. What I have done more than once is make a legal right turn, a legal U-turn and then a right turn. Far more dangerous than just running the light, I know.
I live in an area that recently had the pavement at an intersection re-paved erasing the mag loop. Tried everything to set off the light but it didn't trigger. Ultimately, having a bunch of alternate routes that avoid the problem intersection helps.
In Canada, there is a sign painted on the road and sometimes a road sign panel. The wire has to be under the asphalt and is not visible or it would need to be repaired every winter.
They replace the road then come back and cut an octagon about 6” deep in the pavement lay a wire in there and fill it with epoxy or tar.
I've learned to pull all the way up to the stop line and place my front wheel on the stop line itself. The induction loops where I live are close enough to the stop line that the motor is over the induction loop or very close to it. It works the majority of the time - I do have to admit I'm sometimes surprised when it does work though...
Good informational video as a retired traffic signal Tech, couple notes on the common induction loop. The corners are most sensitive on the square ones the loops are the only part of the detection and the lead in wires to the loop will not detect you All. The detection zone height is approximately half of its width dimension most loops are approximately 6' by 6' so the detection height is about 3' something to think about if your traffic signal technician and you have big rigs. Also loops may be under a layer of asphalt In this case good luck and you might be best to do what you think is prudent to get out of the intersection. And if you think motorcyclists have it bad you should try being a bicyclist in those cases we would encourage the bicyclist to report the problem detection area and we would actually mark the loops out with spray paint so they could learn where it is. Good luck all.
I have to agree that riding over the corners does the trick. I hit both wires at the corner and then swerve over the straight wire. This works nearly every time.
I have ran a couple of red lights before because of them not changing. Glad I watched this. And glad I saw the pinned comment
Love how you turned it into an old style learning video.love it!
Finally, a worth while video. The FACTUAL data you shared was very useful. That was something I didn’t know. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Yup, I always thought it was triggered by pressure. Great video!
Where i am in the us they tend to use induction loops. I usually just give a rev or two and it’ll change almost instantly. We also have a thirty second “dead red rule”
I question if the revving the engine really works. This implies that the internals of the engine are disturbing the magnetic field enough to trip the sensor, but the pistons and con rods are enclosed by a lot of metal, which is a magnetic shield. Did you try an experiment at a problematic intersection, where you stop at the same spot, with and without revving?
I zip tied a garbage can lid to the bottom of my Harley. It triggers the light and catches dripping oil.
Years ago, I was a driver helper for UPS. There was a light with an infrared sensor on our route that would get stuck because of the low sun in the evening. Even the UPS truck wouldn't trip the light.
Legality or UPS policy is probably against this, but I would hop out and hit the crosswalk button when it got bad.
Many state in America have laws that allow bikers to go on red after a certain wait period.
There is no choice but to just drive away, if the light doesn't change. But I don't think there is a law. I feel like they want motorcycles to suffer, everywhere except California.
N.C. does. G.S. 20-158e. - 3 minutes + other requirements.
@Curt - five seconds of research can be amazing. Scroll down after following this link:
www.bikebandit.com/blog/how-dead-red-laws-let-motorcycles-run-red-lights-legally
@@sarasandoval771 Thank you! I figured my state wasn't on the list, but it actually is.
Good on you mate, being in Sydney I have faced this issue quite a few times, although i own a big Kawasaki Vulcan but even such a big bike with lots of metal fails to trigger the sensor some times.
Really interesting video and really well put together. Nice to see someone be able to articulate points nicely with lots of information and not overly flashy or in your face.
Much appreciated!
For being a small youtuber ive been following a while since I got my license, I must say...you do have great content ideas. Keep it up, this was insanely helpful.
I appreciate that! Anything else you'd like to know about don't hesitate to let me know
I just gotta wonder what goes thru peoples heads when im trying to tell them to pull up and trying to explain in hand signals that im not big enough
I've tried to get people to move up and some don't, which makes me look like an idiot who's just randomly waving his hands. Most do move up, though, once they figure out the light's not turning green.
That is so funny
The problem is that nothing is going through those people's heads, or at least nothing related to driving. It's the same in other situations too. Today most drivers attention is on their phone or their "infotainment system" or something else going on inside their car. I've been riding since 1964 and never saw so many oblivious moronic drivers as I've been seeing in the last few years.
Probablycomes off like: "You! Get over here! I'm not fat so I could beat you up before the light changes!"
All the lights in my town don't turn green and I have to wait for a car to arrive behind me before it will allow me to pass. This information is super handy!!! I can now stop avoiding those routes and try putting center of bike over the lines :) my town is small so hopefully contacting the local council will work too if this trick doesn't help.
You two killed it. The editing was so funny. That's how an intro should be made. Good collaboration. Gcent97 called it. Thank you both.
Back when I drove in London UK main roads into the city center were sequenced, so if you started off at green from the first one and kept between 29/30 mph you would clear the lot without stopping. I found a similar road set today in Ho Chi Minh (Saigon) it was fun the watch the boy racers, tearing away from one set of lights and catch them up at the next and I'd just glide through.
Excellent information Kwackajack! More riders should pay attention to this. I have a couple difficult lights where I'm at and I usually end up pulling forward and hoping a car will come behind me to trigger...if that doesn't work then I'll generally jump the red or turn a different way. Great vid!
Thanks mate, sure is frustrating getting stuck. Especially when nobody else is around.
Been enjoying your new ZX10 vids
I live in a town with one traffic light controlled intersection and get stuck 50 percent of the time😅 Cheers for the vid, looking forward to using the techniques instead of launching (safely) through the red light like ive been doing
Awesome vid mate. Killing it keep it going
All my motorcycles have center stands. So when stopping for a red traffic light, I always stop exactly in the middle above the loop line, and then bring the center stand down with my left heel, so that both legs of the stand touch the ground on top of the line, and keep it there for a couple of seconds. So far this has always worked for me.
Great vid! Very informative. Although, I wouldn’t recommend putting your kickstand down at a traffic stop as that would mean that your bike is in neutral, unless your bike doesn’t have an auto cut off when the kickstand is put down. Even then, you should always be ready to go and perform an evasive action to avoid potentially being rear ended by a vehicle.
Good point!
I liked the video because of the nice and clear explanation, thanks. But in here, the traffic lights are probably time-triggered, which means we can't do anything for them :D
Another good vid man, you will understand , I don’t have this problem on my Roadking 😂😂 👍
Haha yea I bet not. Good meeting you briefly the other day mate!
I remember when Sydney had pressure pad triggers back in my teen years. They were like a heavy rubber garden hose mounted in a concrete base and the weight of the car squashed them enough to trigger the system. Those traffic counter hoses we sometimes see are much thinner than those old ones. However, the rubber back then became brittle over time and they would crack apart and no longer work. Many a time my step-father would ask me to get out and press the pedestrian button when the trigger wasn't working.
Love the intro. If you would've added a long grey beard at the end that would have killed it🤣🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the great informative video
I live in a small town and the main center of town red light sensor was not working for motorcycles, so I would circumvent this by slipping into an adjacent parking lot and bypassing the red light all together.
A local cop saw me do this late one night and stopped me.
I explained that the sensor on the light would not trigger for a motorcycle and he was cool about it.
We even filmed a short video on his cell phone so he could send it to city maintenance so they would address the issue.
The light now works perfectly.
I was like.. that is very common here in Australia. Then I saw your tagged in Gold Coast. lol! As new rider. Thanks. And subbed
useful information thanks mate
just one note police have told me that after 3 cycles if it hasn't gone green. you can go as long as its safe. I wouldn't do that with a red light camera there tho lol
I enjoyed this one so much!
Glad to hear it! 🙏🏻
Good vid, thank you! Normally, after sitting through a couple of light cycles, I get annoyed, I look both ways and run the light.
Wow, I totally thought they were always scales. Thanks for the clarification!
Yep! It's a pretty common misconception
Me too!
This was an interesting video. Been riding for years and driving a car for years I always figured it was some kind of roadwork cut out where they installed a scale after the asphalt had been laid down. Can't wait to get on the bike later and see if it actually works.
Where I am bicycling is common enough that for many intersections they have a spot marked on the ground near the stop line of where to park your bike in order to trigger the light. Not sure if this is another smaller induction loop or it's just marking optimal positioning but they work really well
Honestly IDK how you don't have like 200k+ subs
Tell ya what Cyanus, when we get to 200k I'll give you a shoutout
Hi thanks for your information that was very useful ... in the centre of my motorcycle on the bottom just behind the ftont tyre .I have four blocks of 4 Neodymium magnet, it is definitely a God send !!...and is perfect for triggering traffic lights anywhere I go in the UK👍🏽👍🏽😊
I've been stuck a couple times extra early in the morning going to work. Thought about running the light, but you know that would be when the cop comes around the corner. So I put the kickstand down and quickly jet over to the crosswalk button hit it a few times and jet back. I turn my flashers on for extra security if you don't have flashers maybe a turn signal. You run the risk of your bike getting hit when it's unattended but also that early in the morning people really aren't paying attention for a bike stopped at a crosswalk anyway. The dead red lie in my state. If you're skipped two rounds you can go roll on red. Ride hard drive Safe
Just blow the light bro 😂
Solid vid💯👍🏽🏍 I actually did think those lines were pressure activated. Thank goodness we have the “dead red” law in California. I stop for about 30 seconds and hit it🔥🦾
I always flash my lights a few times. And most of the time it will change immediately
Now I understand why these specific traffic lights near where I live never activate when I ride my bicycle, usually I just go on the pavement and go around because it never works :/ can’t wait to test this next time
Made me laugh when I saw him pull out the book
Thx for the insight and advice. There's a light near me with an induction loop that won't detect my ZX-11. I will put your advice to use today...
Let me know it goes!
I remember I was doing a long ride it was almost midnight completely empty road, sat at a junction looking at the camera debating if I should just go or not for 10min until somone came up behind me and triggered it lmao.
Ten minutes seems like a bit much. I run reds that late in my car. There's no point in waiting when the roads are empty.
The beginning intro was actually comedic and made me chuckle a bit, thanks mate.
Ride my Ninja 300 about 5yrs... Do remember, earlier I did tried the magnet attached on bike and it's true - it does NOT work... Thanks for the video ✌️
damn Fort9
And they weren’t cheap if I remember correctly. About $100.
@@whereswaldo5740 I got mine on Amazon under 20$, since it was useless for that traffic light, I use it to keep bolts together when I work on my bike :)
At my previous GP's I used to wait for another patient to exit in a car and follow them out through the lights as the induction loop wouldn't pick up my bike. During visits last year, in the middle of the pandemic there were no other patients as visits were strictly controlled, so I had to carefully take a few red lights, but there were next to no other vehicles on the road. The induction system is great, when it's properly calibrated.
This was really helpful. Now then, time for gates.
Good content on this common and frustrating motorcycle - traffic light problem. I've used 'dead red' stop and go (as you would at a common STOP sign) many times regardless of state law. This seems intuitive enough since both the sign and the light serve the same purpose. However, in a multi-lane road with turn lanes, this can be a dangerous puzzle, especially when there is moderate or heavy traffic. An alternative to a potential ticket for running a red light that may work in some situations is to simply make a right turn, then u-turn when practical and go back through the intersection with the green light.
I"ll just start crochetting at the light
😂
Good video. I have found that Lake County, Illinois, is quite responsive to complaints about non-functional traffic lights. They can't fix it if they don't know there's a problem. And when in doubt I right on red and pull U turn where I can.
I had a car the other day not trigger the lights for like 5 changes, I thought they were on the sensor but I guess not enough to trigger it. They ended up running the red arrow and triggering it.
Here in Wisconsin we have the Motorcyle Red Light Law, if the light fails to trigger after forty-five seconds you can look both ways to make sure traffic is clear and then proceed through the red light.
I just go when it's safe
Strange how this came to the top of my feed today, hours after it happened to me for the first time 🤔 😎
Pull over to the curb, get off and push the pedestrian button. It's better than waiting.
LOL! 😂
Good info. I'm an electrical engineer and already knew about induction loops. I was already stopping directly above the loop coil and some still don't trigger. I did learn some good info in this video, though. Thanks.
I'm seeing people in cars stopping 1-2 car lengths back so the sensor isn't tripped. It must be deliberate. Is there some hoax email that is conning people into this foolishness?
Yes!! I thought is was just overly polite drivers here in the South. Drives me crazy. I actually had a cop do that. I actually got off my bike after a few cycles of the light and that idiot just sat there looking at phone. I finally just ran the light.
Good to know, I've come across 2 In the UK, my local area, will give it a go or try, especially at night time, when no cars on the road, waiting 1 time, 10 mins!!!, so incase of who's watching who, with out any penalty, I've switched engine off, and pushed motorcycle across the line and light...so technically, I haven't driven through a red light... 👍, then carried on, nice to know this, thought some traffic watching worker taking a urine sample, taking the piss, lol 😂, now I know... Wasn't going totally mad...lol 😂
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Thanks for just giving me A super fantastic idea of what to do from now on in the future when on my bike at red lights👌👌👌👌
Near my home in the US, it seems that my high exit ramp velocity increases the chances the video "sees" me, it may also increase the advance induction loop signal since most of my bikes are aluminum, not steel. I think the induction loops don't see aluminum, just steel as it is magnetic. The starter idea below seems like a good idea.