Dune: Part Two | REACTION (Part 2 of 2) First Time Watching
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- Hi guys, it’s Niamh and Danny here. We’re back with Part 2 of Dune: Part 2… 😂
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CHANI 4 LIFE
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This is the gold standard for all Dune 2 movie reactions 🙌
Yes. It felt incredibly honest, and didn't step all over everything, all the time, as a way of justifying their existence on YT.
Thank you for taking each scene seriously, especially the ending, and not making stupid jokes every 5 minutes like so many other RUclipsrs.
I know, right? What is up with these reactors trying so hard to be "funny", making puns every 2-3 minutes on every scene, getting distracted, not feeling anything or connected to anything in the move, I hate it, what is the point of the reaction?
Amen - I want slap every reactor who makes the godawful 'Drax v. Thanos' reference... ugh...
You guys are the best reactors to this movie hands down! You pay attention to all of the details and truly care about the story.
This is so kind 🥹 thank you, we truly loved every second
Your comments about "probabilities" is actually way more on point with regard to the books than you think. Villeneuve only had so much screen time to explain things, but if you recall from the first film there was a significant role of the mentats (the advisors to leaders who were like human calculators for probability)...Paul was actually being trained to be mentat as a youth and during his time on Arrakis completed his transformation to being a mentat...IN ADDITION to his gaining prescience and access to ancestral memories through becoming the Kwisatz Hadderach after taking the Water of Life. He is able to navigate the possible futures and predict others' actions with extreme accuracy (with some scattered exceptions). But he was so connected to the world from before this transformation that he is tortured by the knowledge of what guaranteeing the survival of the human race would eventually require of him. Villeneuve simplifies this effectively by basically making it clear that Jessica, Alia, and Paul's survival - and possibly the survival of every Fremen person - depended on them choosing this path forward, given the threat of the powers offworld. In the film Chani says something important that lays out the inevitability of these things which continuously motivates Paul Muad'dib's actions:
"the world has made choices for us."
the best reaction for this movie.
Btw remember that paul said “she’ll come to understand” to his mother after he drank the water of life. And how he said “i’ll love you no matter what” this marriage was strictly political just like how duke Leto didn’t marry Jessica in case he needed to make a strategic alliance. In the end of book 1 of dune paul tells Chani that princess irulan won’t have any of his love/sign of affection, attention or children. I was looking forward to seeing that scene be adapted but i guess not😭. Chani was also loyal to paul throughout the book but Denis changed this to make her a more intriguing and thought provoking character instead of just another shallow follower which i loved! One of my favorite reactions of the movie on youtube, great discussions and emotions all around!
"History will call us wives."
Honestly I don’t think it works for the better. I see Chani as a character, even from the first movie, logically understanding that this is how her people will be freed and wouldn’t have been in such opposition to Paul’s vision for Green Paradise.
Denis thought he had to dumb the story down for audiences and change Chani’s character.
@@Gunnar001 it worked because look at the success this film is, also somethings what's on the pages doesn't transfer to movies
In the book, Chani is not a shallow follower. She is fully aware that Paul is a false messiah and willingly works with him and Jessica to subvert her entire people.
While it’s not considered magic in the books, there is a thing called “prescience” which is the ability to see the future. In the dune universe, thinking machines (computers) have been outlawed and so humans have found ways to evolve the human mind in different ways to accomplish different tasks. One way is making a mentat, which is basically a human capable of mimicking the abilities of a computer. You saw that in the first movie when the guy rolled his eyes into the back of his head to do a calculation. Another way that we have figured out how to evolve is the spacing guild navigators. They put a person into a box and fill it with high levels of spice, and over time the person turns into a squid-like being with the ability to see the possible paths of the heyliner which they control. This way they can use prescience instead of navigation computers to chart paths between the stars.
I think you have to remember the position Paul is in at the end of the movie. The prophecy isn't just about him freeing the Fremen but also about spreading the word of his religion through the universe. The Fremen have fully bought into the prophecy and would not understand if he did not let them continue the path of the prophecy.
Further, with the other great houses not recognizing his ascendancy, if he does not attack them and simply settles into Arrakis he will only invite an endless series of attempts to regain control of the planet. Also, with the fall of the Emperor a power vacuum exists that will inevitably lead to chaos and warfare amongst the great houses in order to gain the throne for themselves. His only real option for himself and the Fremen is to force the capitulation of the great houses.
Frank Herbert did say this was a cautionary tale, and it is, but I think the narrative is also about making a very hard choice. Paul knows with his prescience that there is only one path that allows him and the Fremen to not only prevail, but survive. Its kinda like a version of the trolly problem: Do you and your people die, or do you survive by killing billions of other people?
@@MuadDib042 If you've ever read the first Narnia book, The Magician's Nephew, the main character Digory is presented with such a choice--to save the world of Narnia...or save his mother. It's a ridiculously difficult choice to give to a boy who's a preteen. Digory makes a different choice than Paul does, but the author bails him out in the end.
This kind of plot is like the trolley problem, but with the twist that the author reveals to you that not all humans are equal to any individual person. Paul obviously valued his family and the Fremen more than everyone else in the galaxy. Not a very democratic choice, but then emotions don't tend to be rational, do they?
@@rikk319 Democracy is subjective. It was actually democratic choice, since other houses were monarchist and authoritarian to control Arrakis.
ALSO: Main point in democracy is always to value your family and your people than others. LITERALLY. So it's by ENTIRE definition and terminology democratic choice.
@@SenatePalpatinetroller Democracy: control of an organization or group by the majority of its members. Not "value your family and your people than others". What you described is self-interest, not democracy. Don't need to believe me, just look up the definition.
Democracy as a term is not subjective. Democracy as a concept can be subjective. But there was no democracy at any point in this story, book or movie version...everything was feudalism, despotism, authoritarianism, or religious domination. The group closest to democracy was the northern Fremen, but even they had a strict hierarchy of elders who directed things.
When I mentioned democracy in my first comment, it was to make a satirical point about the lack of self-determination in such a rigidly deterministic setting as Herbert's fictional galaxy. The Dune universe as a whole is very dark and doesn't have much of any happy ending for anything...just struggle and death.
@@rikk319 You forgetting something?
Part of the democracy and democratic values is protecting your territory, your property and your house (in this scenario Arrakis) and Fremen. This thing is not definition, but just a part of the paragraph of what actual democratic value is among many other values that you missed so you can project your own biased narrative. Also Democracy is subjective, it depends from country to country. Some countries find your version non democratic and oppressive, but some countries find it as liberating and empowering. So democracy just like any other thing depending from culture to culture and nation to nation is subjective. One nation's human rights are not equivalent and related with another nation's human rights. To some it's just privilege, for others it's human rights. Your point was not satirical, nor related with self-determination if you have no ability to self-determinate yourself. Herbert himself also had horrible ability to do that and his message has utterly failed and only made him more irrelevant when making those 2 people as protagonists which inspired most of the people. Not to mention that most of the Frank's messages are mentioned far later after he wrote the books, some were also quotes very non democratic (according to your standards) like his advocation that secularism is bad and that religion and state should never have been separated. But I guess you will ignore that. Because your comprehension skills are probably based on blue hair gender studies on college campuses. And I've read the Dune books all 6 of them, even Brian's ones which were already Soap Opera. Fact is that Paul and Leto were saviors of human race, that is more than enough for me. They caused bad, but for greater good. Nothing debatable about that.
The best reaction of this movie untill now. I've got more emotional at the very end watching with you guys than when i've wachted in theares, i swear it haha, tnks.
And so begins Paul's complicated personal life. Two empresses: one in name, one in fact.
Paul isn't a hero but he's not a villain either. His conscience is tearing him apart. And don't give up on Paul and Chani... there's much more to that story
He actually is a hero, a tragic hero.
He's the protagonist. 'protagonist' and 'hero' aren't synonymous.
to understand that question, you need to read Dune messiah. But remember the first movie, "a war in my name billion of death''
I'm sure those 61 billion people would disagree about him not being a villain. Most viewers seem to think they'd be one of the lucky ones to live, or be on Paul's side. But in the books the Fremen suffer greatly too during the war. How many billions of deaths do you have to be responsible for--directly or indirectly--before you're considered a villain?
@@cheesehands3112 Kinda are.
Great reaction and discussion. I won't spoil anything, but the relationship between Chani and Paul is very different in the book. Villeneuve very cleverly changed that for the film to better contrast the conflicts between the believers and non-believers. To compress that huge story into these two films without tons of exposition is a mark of genius. This film is a masterclass in screenwriting. And I think you'll love the books.
Well said, some book readers are shy to give Denis his flowers on this point, I liked the character of Chani in both cases
@@matthewlennon6289 yes true Chani is a pivotal character in both the book and the film. But when you think of the depth of that story and the complexity of that novel… Think about how many times Paul is challenged in the novel and the things he has to go through to establish himself… To be able to compress all that into what amounts to a five hour film without just completely boring the audience, to use Chani that way, to accomplish all the things in the book is genius. It’s just a smart move in my opinion
Early in the movie, Florence Pugh's Irulan points out, "[sic] religious figures gain power after death." Unspoken there is that the religious movement of that figure grows uncontrolled in those cases, like wildfire. The Fremen's new religion, that of the Lisan al-Gaib, spreading across the empire can be a raging, chaotic inferno, or a series of controlled (if enormous) burns. See, the tragedy of Paul is he's shackled by fate. The shackles are loose when he's young, and grow tighter and tighter as he ages. He sees his future and tries to avoid it, avoiding going South, avoiding the position of leadership, but his future stalks him, unrelenting. When he takes the Water of Life, the shackles lock tight. At the end of this movie he's the Emperor, the most powerful person in existence, yet he has less freedom than the poorest pauper. He's sleepwalking through a nightmare where the choices are "Follow this narrow set of actions, or the ultimate end of the species *will* follow." "Billions of people starving because of me" is horrific, until he takes the Water and realizes the alternative is worse.
Brilliant comment.
"Sleepwalking through a nightmare" is a powerful phrase and such an apt description of Paul and his predicament in Dune Messiah.
What a joy to watch this with you and experience your emotions while re-experiencing my own. I don't know if either of you have read the first book, but if not it only makes the depth of your understanding more impressive. I think a lot of people miss that to truly understand and feel these 2 movies, you have to let yourself get lost in it and take every detail to heart. Nothing, no scene, no image, no dialogue is unimportant and without purpose. In the book, there are so many inner monologues that you can't convey realistically in the movie. That's where Hans Zimmer comes in. He's stated that a big part of what he did with the music is to convey those inner monologues and those inner feelings that can't just be stated. Towards the end, after Paul takes the water of life, the next visuals are not accompanied uplifting positive music, but rather a painful dreary foreshadowing. Chani's theme is not just a love theme, but a love theme that's also plagued by sorrow, longing, and sadness. It's hauntingly beautiful.
This movie is a cinematic masterpiece and Danny's long exhale as the credits hit is why. This is a 2.5 hour movie and rather then feeling restless at the end or thankful to stand up and stretch, we fans are stunned and left with the feeling like when it's 2am and you finish a book chapter but can't put the book down because you need to know what's next. To achieve this feeling after 2.5 hours of cinema is such a great respect to the literature this is based on. I have rewatched multiple times already like I did with part 1. I'm in awe of this universe and these movies. Thank you for your reaction.
My favourite easter egg I saw posted was how Paul in the final fight against Feyd used the move that Josh Brolin used on Pual in the beginning training scene in the first movie. wow!
I didn’t even notice this but I see it now and my mind is blown all over again - thank you for this comment!!
Along with the Fremen words he learned from Jamis, it was an important merging of his two worlds. What did y’all think of Feyd’s response? I think it was a beautiful show of him not quite understanding the subtext and being a step behind
Also, don't know if you noticed, but right after awakening from the Spice Agony, while Paul is telling his mother that now his visions are clear and that he sees a narrow path to victory, we get a glimpse of the final scene of the fight with the hand that wields the knife he later uses to kill Feyd-Rautha (13 minutes and 15 seconds into this very video). Which basically tells us that Paul had already foreseen how the fight would develop and that he knew that being stabbed was a necessary step to win the fight by allowing him to strike while his contender was distracted and convinced of being on the verge of winning.
Also, in the middle of the duel, Paul pounds the right side of his upper chest with his fists. That's exactly where Feyd's blade ended up. I mean, the blade was actually his own, the one Chain gave him in the first movie, but yea.
seeing her struggling to say "kwisatz haderach" everytime was so cute !! (had to google how to write it so i'm no better lmao) Fun reaction, keep going guys !!
Lmaoooo it was a struggle 😭
When Paul said "Lead Them to Paradise"
Stilgar realized it, and he was like, OMG there is no possible future, in which they can avoid the War & be free using another method.
That was like the last possible method Paul had to choose
I already started crying as soon as Paul said "Lead them to paradise." Powerful words he didn't want to utter but for the only way to save his people is to start a holy war in his name.
I can't wait to see what Denis does with Dune Messiah. I had hoped he'd go as far as Children of Dune, but we can't have it all, right?
Paul has been put in this situation by the actions of other people. He knows there is no good way out of this, which is why he was so reluctant to go south to begin with. He is still himself, but due to the situation he is forced to embrace this path even if it leads to disaster for alot of people.
He cant half-ass his way out of this. Its all in or nothing.
Yep, the archetypal pattern of a tragic villain.
The cast, costumes, sets, score, characters and cinematography are outstanding. Dune I & II are the apex of cinematic storytelling.
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The blue ribbon is what Fremen women wear to profess their love for another. You may notice that she is not wearing it in the last scene.
Her distrust is a departure from the books, but it is necessary to show the conflict of Paul and Jessica’s actions to the viewer, I believe.
You need to watch this in the cinema, by the way.
Being able to overcome the poison is partly genetic and partly training. Many Bene Gesserit women failed until they realised it was partly genetic. Men did not have the genes. Hence they have to start a breeding program to find the genes and transfer all of the required ones to a man. They did not have the biological equipment to do it artificially.
Such a profound and intelligent reaction. My favorite reaction for this movie. And I have watched many reactions. Blessings! Thank you.
Amazing reaction - I grew up w these books, and saw these films numerous times, but your reaction has helped me to see this film on a different level, in terms of what Villeneuve is doing w this material - I think Herbert is posing an experiment re human civilization as a whole, which plays out over the first 4 books, and in the 4th book we see the full results and Herbert's conclusion - the Bene Gesserit are trying to breed a genuine messiah, and here Paul is their Frankenstein's Monster outcome;
Villeneuve's 3 films will comprise Herbert's "Pauliad" - but for Herbert, Paul is actually the Pilot stage of this, and the full experiment starts in the next stage, and will culminate in the 4th book, almost 3,500 years later
- re the supernatural question, both the books and the films tease us subtly - yes, the prophecy is carefully manufactured - and yet at the same time we see it actually coming true in ways not strictly under their control, as w the natural signs that augment this confirmation - it's like w Moby Dick - the whale is just a dumb animal, not the divine adversary Ahab envisions in his growing insanity
- and yet somehow this leviathan appears always at exactly the most disruptive moments, almost as if it is actually magical and intentionally provoking Ahab - so the question is left quietly open, and I think that's also the case w Dune, which IMO makes it an even richer, more mysterious work
- Paul will try to cleanse the decadence of Civilization w his Holy War, to save Humanity from Itself - and yet he already has fears that his Divine Cleansing Fire will become a Conflagration that spirals out of control (the way Paul himself has spiraled out of the Bene Gesserit's control?) and becomes in some ways an even greater threat than the decay it's trying to cleanse
- on the one hand, the tendency of Civilization to decay into self-destructive depravity a la the Harkonnens, and on the other hand a blind Holy Fire that consumes anything and everything, the Cure that threatens to kill the Patient
The biggest new thing I realized from your commentary is that in effect the climax and in some ways the ending of this film is Paul's decision to take the Water of Life, which is in a sense the moment of his death, as you say - that's what Villeneuve's film seems to be about at its heart, and Chani is there to bear witness for us, like Samwise mourning Frodo - and everything after that is a kind of denoement - his Kwisatz Haderach slices thru the rest of the film like a knife, because in a sense the film is already over
“She’s the potential real hero of this story” - love both of your compassionate reactions and insights!
This movie has the greatest face acting I've ever seen in my life. Too many examples to name, a masterclass from the entire cast.
Excellent observation - you’re so right. This movie is truly a masterclass is just so many areas - I could list them for hours. I absolutely loved it. Thanks for watching with us 💙
- N
From the novel, we learn that Paul has been plagued by prescient visions all of his life (due to the Bene Gesserit breeding program); however, on Arrakis, the exposure to Spice heightens his ability to see possible futures (including his hand on the knife that will kill Feyd-Rautha). Then he takes the Water of Life and now sees all of the possibilities, including the one that will lead to the fewest casualties. Unfortunately, no one but St. Alia of the Knife (his unborn sister) can see what he does.
19:57: "Kwisatz Haderach, climb up! Rise up!" Man, that screaming eagle sound effect when the nukes go off is just👌
Chills
Was wonderful "re-watching" this with you two. An incredible movie/story, a work of art. The change of Chani's character from the book was perfect imo. As you pointed out we see more through her eyes after Paul's transformation. A contrast was missing in the first movie as Paul was more or less a hero figure all the way through
I just want to say your reaction is one of the best Dune 2 reactions on youtube.
This is so kind, thank you 💙😭
Between now and the 3rd movie Dune: Messiah (which has been greenlit by WB) we're getting the HBO MAX series which will be set 10,000 years before the two movies and tell the origin story of the Bene Gesserit.
Is not what Paul becomes, is what the Fremen become. He can’t control them anymore.
It’s actually both, Paul unleashes the power of the Fremen but also its Paul’s story, the story of the rise of the Kwisatz Haderach and his legacy upon the universe.
No. He could simply deny space transport if he wanted to limit them to dune
@@Maya_Ruinz No, no. I am referring to the beyond the book lesson to learn.
@@di3486 both of my arguments still apply
@@Maya_Ruinz Not to my comment.
Best reaction i have seen so far, emotion, calm and geniune. Stay yourself, and thx for the work
This is one of the best reactions to Dune 2 I’ve seen!!! And I love that you all picked up on how dark/complicated Paul and his messianic journey is.
Thank you so much!!! Paul’s story is so fascinating and heartbreaking and TERRIFYING. I’m loving every second of this story
Thanks for part 2! Great reaction. Stay authentic, please, and we'll keep watching. Cheers!
This whole saga is based on the most extraordinary source material and is just a cavalcade of moments - the ones that stand out to me are when Paul answers Jessica when she tells him that his father didn't believe in revenge. At that point we didn't kow that his grandfather did. Then the other one that stands out to me is the couple sand dancing - its a hidden gem that most ppl love but are'nt really conscious of why...
First of congratulations to Danny, all the luck in the world to you and yours. This movie rocks and your reaction was awesome.
Give them time to think it all out in their heads and debate it back and forth and they will come to understand more and more they rewatch too. I did. I feel so much for Paul. He’s having to give up so much for everyone else to prevail. He’s doing everything he can to stick to the narrow path he saw forward.
Your's has been the best reaction I've seen in part 1 and part 2. Fantastic stuff
You two are quickly becoming one of my favorite reactors.
🥹 oh wow, thank you
In the novel, there was another character in the final scene, Duke Fenring, who was so good at hiding his intentions that Paul didn't see his impact on the future. That made Paul's POV a lot more interesting, because there were actually challenges and uncertainty, as he evaluated whether the path he chose would be affected by Fenring. In the movie, it seemed like Paul already decided on the path, so there wouldn't be much to explore from his POV.
A theme of the novel is smart and capable people often get tunnel vision from what they are good at. Paul thought a devastating war was the least terrible path for humanity, but people like Fenring showed that he couldn't have known everything, and there were better paths that Paul might not have even thought possible.
That's certainly not the thesis of the book series in totality in regards to Paul. I would say it applies to everyone who's not "the one" but him and his son certainly saw The Golden Path and both were proven correct.
@@Connor8609 "... such insight operates as a peculiar trap for the prophet himself. He can become the victim of what he knows - which is a relatively common human failing." That's from Children of Dune. The Golden Path was the best way Paul was able to see. And Paul was correct about the things he could see. But in Herbert's universe, there were many things Paul couldn't see, including Duke Fenring in the first book, and more later.
The was THE BEST reaction to Dune 2. These two videos should have 1 million views
Definitely the best reaction for Dune out there. Thanks for taking it seriously.
Thank you!!! So glad you enjoyed
Can assure you we take Dune SO SERIOUSLY 😳
Good to see you guys enjoying this so much. Dune has great lore. Lots to come...
I just feel so baddd for Chani 😭 like her alone in the desert like that is terrifying and heartbreaking all her people and the man she fell in love with just gone
The ending of this one broke me 😭 Zendaya has a true gift. She has to be one of the most famous actors out there, yet when I watch her - she is just Chani. Incredible acting and an INCREDIBLE score. Can’t wait to see more 😭😭😭
- N
There is for any human who has a huge historical role a point at which the happiness and individual interests must make way for a "higher cause." Many cease to have a personal life.
You two had one of the best reactions on youtube with the first movie, and you've done it again with the second.
One of the central themes that Frank Herbert was trying to impart when writing Dune was "charismatic leaders should come with a warning label of [This person may be dangerous for your health]". It's very intentional that Paul seems to go through the classic hero's journey, only to end up more a villain than a hero. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Unfortunately for Herbert, that point seemed to have flown over some reader's heads when the first book was published, so it appears that Denis Villeneuve made sure to strengthen that theme with some of the more sinister and darker scenes in this movie. I cannot wait to see what he does with Dune: Messiah.
The cues from Hans Zimmer's score did some heavy lifting on that. This overall production is a titan in a lilliputian hollywood world.
Well Done you both 🤲⭐️
Reaction was on Point 😶
you brought me back to the theater 💯
Look forward to everything 🍿
stay Awesome ⭐️
Remember Paul said "she will come to understand, I have seen it"
My favorite Dune 2 reaction - and I've seen a lot! Immediate follow - very easy and fun to watch you guys react to this one! Villanueve, the director, has done some outstanding movies you could consider reaction to: Arrival, Prisoners, Sicario just to name a few. One of his first movies is called Incendies. It is absolutely harrowing. I sat in silence for 10 min after watching just to try and wrap my head around what unfolds at the end - it is INSANE
AH thank you for the recs, I’ve seen Prisoners but not since it came out probably, I can hardly remember it. Added these to our list. Your support means so much, thank you 💙
- N
The entire story of the Dune Saga is much crazier then you could think about just watching these movies.....LOL !
Before drinking poison, all he saw was massive starvation and death. After drinking poison, he saw that all roads lead to their enemies around them, prevailing, except for one. Seems war is inevitable. Seems this way is the best possible way.
He is himself and he is as close to Messiah as he gets, too many coincidences, too many events foretold. He was instantly familiar with Fremen ways, he could foresee some futures, he called the biggest sandworm, he was brought back by Shani's tears. I think the only reason he actively claimed himself as Messiah was to make sure Fremen follow him without doubts, as he will know what they need to do, and what must be done to save them.
Or maybe he saw a confirmation of him being the Messiah after all the memories and histories he saw. Jessica wasn’t so sure either before she drank the poison, but after, she had no doubts.
I don't know much tbh, I haven't really read the books yet, but this is what I got from the movies.
I don't think Paul is anything like who he was before he drank The Water of Life. If experiences can change your personality, what would gaining the experiences of thousands of your male and female ancestors do to change your personality? The old Paul--as it said at the end of the first movie, as a harbinger--has died, and the messiah Paul is born. It's tragic that the "real" Paul had to die, psychologically, in order to save his people. He sacrificed himself for them.
That's pretty much what makes him actual prophet and Messiah, but his Son was pretty much GOD. Worm God. (if you read the books, first is Dune) (this 2 movies), second is Dune Messiah (future 3rd movie), then Children of Dune and then God Emperor of Dune, another 2 Heretics of Dune and Dune Chapterhouse.
@@SenatePalpatinetroller I've read all the books, the first one 3 times back in the 80s when I was a teen. Very influential to my thinking, along with Asimov's Foundation Trilogy and Zelazny's Amber series.
Leto was called God-Emperor, but he was still a human being...he wasn't omniscient, omnipotent, or eternal...and definitely wasn't omnibenevolent. He just effectively held hegemony over humanity in the galaxy for 3,500 years.
@@rikk319 Then you read completely non Frank Herbert books if that is your perception. He was literally worm-human hybrid and was no longer functioning nor operating as human being. He wasn't eternal, but he was omniscient and omnipotent, not being omnibenevolent does not equate not being God. Human perception of a God differenciates, just as freedom. Many Gods in old mythology were killed by stronger beings. Saying he was still human being is factually false. Also real Paul did not died, he just got stronger and was mentally changed due to unlocking memories of ancestors.
@@rikk319 Changing is not the same as dying. You evolve, you improve, that happens within your whole life span. You may change from the person you were yesterday, but saying you died and a new you arrived is a bit dramatic. Maybe, grew up? The child in Jessica's belly certainly seems to simply have grown up, mentally, but it didn't die.
Plus Paul was a Messiah before the drank that water too, he simply saw a confirmation that those crossed bloodlines indeed made him the Messiah these people were waiting for. He couldn't know that before, without their histories/memories.
I have to agree, this is the best reaction I've seen for this movie. Excellent job guys.
He didn't "change" he can see all possible futures, he's just following the only path where he can prevail.
He did change. He knew he'd have to be a "different" person once he stepped on the Path. Doesn't matter how you feel about it, he is, for all intents and purposes, a different person from the one Chani met.
You guys are one of my top reactors for both Dune movies. Your reactions are naturally entertaining and most importantly, very attentive. You see the details, threads, consequences. Dense stories like this were made for an audience like you ❤
You’re so kind 🥲 thank you I’m so glad you enjoyed watching with us
Incredible reaction. I’m so glad you split it into two parts so we got more time to watch you and Dune.
There were just too many amazing moments to cut 😭 don’t know how I’ll hold out waiting for Messiah now 💔 I just fell in love with this story x
- N
From memory, in the book, the Bene Gesserit plan was for Paul to be a girl who they could marry off to Feyd and reduce the chaos coming from both houses... and then their child was possibly supposed to be the One.
What makes the Dune books great is all of the internal dialog. Like you brought up, yes you do get to hear what Paul thinks, his doubts and thoughts. You hear many characters internal dialog. The book over all is pretty slow with massive world building. The main difference in this from the book is in the book Chani is a ride or die with Paul. I think you are right, they had Chani leave to give the audience a moral compass and give the hint (if they hadn’t picked up on it) that Paul taking charge is going to cause untold horrors. But what we can’t see is there is a method to the madness, the “golden path”. The only way for humanity to survive is for this and other things through Paul’s son Leto II to happen to guide and direct humanity on a path to ensure the species survives, although it seems the opposite to everyone else.
Love your reaction guys. Keep them coming.
Probably the best Dune reaction I’ve seen. Well done 👏
Your guys are gold
Enjoyed watching this with you guys, you had a pretty good grasp on the plot. Can’t wait for messiah!
‘I feel like we have been seeing a slow death to Paul Atreides’ y’all are the best reaction in my opinion. Please consider doing “True Detective” season 1. Thank you both.
Thank you! I hope we can jump into more tv reactions in the future. Always wanted to see True Detective 💙
Hi Danny and Niamh , So glad to watch your reaction to Dune 2 !!!
My nickname is Dune :)
I can't wait to see your next reaction soon.
I need a super cut every time she gasps 😂 This was a great reaction 👍🏽
Amazing reaction - thanks for sharing it with us
So excited for the other half of the reaction. Great reaction video! Thank you
You two are absolutely adorable. I love your reactions.
Your reactions were amazing. 'I can't fully tell what Paul is thinking' well just wait for the next five Dune book movies. And please do a Dune 3 reaction when it comes out in maybe 2 or 3 years!!!
Great Reaction, I thoroughly Enjoyed watching you two Reacting
Amazing reaction guys! ❤😊
Pre watch thumbs up.
Post watch You guys nailed the movie.❤❤❤❤❤
36:00 you are the only reactors that gets there is no magic in this world. I've seen about two dozen People review this movie. And they all think it's magic. Seeing the future at least in this universe is an ability of the human mind. The Bene Gesserit through their breeding program diaedl this ability up to 11.
Here's the thing, on the road to breeding the Kwisatz Haderach there were people who could see the future. Imperfectly metaphorically but they did nevertheless. And so they then created a prophecy based around what these people would foresee. And surprise it came true. No magic.
The movies kind of de-emphasise the Spacing Guild, but per the book they are the reason the Harkonnens et al are unaware of the Fremen activity in the Southern hemisphere. The Fremen have been paying the Guild vast bribes in spice to ensure that the cost of orbital surveys of Dune is prohibitively high. The storms discourage aerial travel to the South and the worms prevent ground travel for all but the Fremen, so the whole region really is just a big mystery to outsiders until the Emperor insists on checking it out.
Dune 2 is the greatest Sci-fi drama I ever seen. Thanks for posting the reaction vid.
Saw Dune part 2 in IMAX my 8th time today, and straight after I'm watching your reaction. I think it's addiction 😁. Great reaction BTW.
Fantastic reaction! The looks on your faces were priceless. Is it one of the greatest films you've ever seen or what? ❤😊
YES
It's worth understanding how influential Dune has been on other sci-fi/fantasy works, but it's definitely a massive influence on Game of Thrones.
Paul is a direct parallel to Daenerys in some respects. He has a righteous cause, but he's not the hero; in fact his actions make him a greater villain than those we considered antagonists earlier on.
People say things like "Paul is gone" or "He's not himself".
Well, duh.
After he drank the water of life, he gained all the knowledge and wisdom of his forefathers. Of course he's changed.
Ordinary people change, his changes are only more powerful.
And he's able to make sense of his visions now. When he was talking with Jessica after he woke up, he already saw the outcome of his duel with Feyd.
Remember he said he saw a "narrow way through"?
A political marriage with the princess is what he saw, among other things.
When thinking about what Paul could do you have to consider the difference between the benegesserit and the guild navigators. The navigators used a kind of prescience combined with mental training to "see" the way between planets and allow for interstellar travel. Essentially, they had the ability to look outward and to the future. The bene gesserit looked inward and to the past. The bene gesserit teachings start with individual muscle control. Imagine learning to flex one individual muscle in your finger. The voice is just control of their own vocal cords in such a way as to have sound touch certain parts of a person's brain to compel people to act. With the water of life this leads to the commune with their own lines past memories. Paul is the combination of the two. He can see both the past (through benegesserit training) and the future (in the same way a guild navigator can). as an aside, in the books paul was also being surreptitiously trained to be a mentat (a living computer). The guild navigators gained their limited ability to see the future through massive connection with teh spice. Paul gains the greater power of prescience through his taking of the water of life.
I think Chani and the Mother represent the conflicting feelings of Paul that was all inner monologue in the books (and very hard to do well in a movie).
The mother was far from fully on board, and Chani had much more trust in Paul and the prophecy. Dennis simplified the story a lot, but it is still amazing! My one criticism would be that the pacing is a bit quick in the second movie. So much time passes in minutes here.
Time to read the book. You'll understand so much more.
And then Dune Messiah...
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And then _God Emperor of Dune_ after that.
That slap gave me a Jim Gordon flashback.
Great reaction you two!
In the books the ascension of a reverend mother gave access to their female ancestral line memories but not their male ones. The kwizach haderach would access bith male and female ancestral memories and possess predictive abilities which they lacked.
Great reaction, I felt just like you watching this in IMAX and I already knew what was going to happen.
Stop you’ll make us blush 😂
All the actors absolutely killed it in this film. But for me, Javier Bardem has again proved why he's one of my favourite actors of all time. Not only did he deliver the comic elements perfectly, but his arc from being a friend of Paul's to being a religious follower blindly following Paul's instructions to begin a devastating war was just so well done
My brother told me that after he left the cinema, Stilgar’s character stayed with him more than anything. He said that watching him, was like seeing a heartbreaking decline. From a strong and impressive force, to a man so blinded and broken down by faith that he is barely recognisable. This observation made me pay so much more attention to Javier on a rewatch, he did a stunning job. I love getting more from this movie every time I watch it back. 💙
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You guys are great!
Good insights here. I agree, I think because Paul's motives are so opaque, Chani isn't just the moral compass for the audience, but in Denis' version of the story she is the revealed protagonist. It will be interesting to see how Denis plays things out in Messiah. And I hope you guys react to the HBO series on the Bene Gesserit when it comes out.
Rebecca Ferguson deserves an Oscar
Great reaction to an absolute masterpiece of cinema.
I think Paul should have waited for all the great houses to regroup, strategize and go after Arrakis in waves till the atreidis are completely destroyed..that would have been the strategically sound thing to do right?
I've seen every dune movie reaction for both part one n part two on RUclips I could find. Crazy.
9:17 It’s implied in that scene that he burned her alive, just for the thrill of it. Remember, he loves pain.
The best reaction video to this film
In the book, Chani is so much more accepting of Paul/Maud'dib - so much so that Irulan is warned that she will only have the title, "wife," for political reasons but that Paul would never consummate his marriage to her - his heart belongs to Chani.
the benne gesserits' business plan in a nutshell seems to be to sleep their way to the top, by identifying every potential candidate for the throne and sending in their agents to seduce (or maybe kill) them. they have their preferences, but all their bets are hedged: "there are no sides" when you own a stake on every side. the former reverend mother probably didn't have being deposed on her bingo card, but her sisterhood plans to always have a pawn and their heirs on the throne.
Paul the real hero and learned quick that even tho its a hard pill to swallow but sometimes to protect the things you love or hold close, you gotta take your heart out of ruling in order to protect those things. Regardless of how they feel atm they'll; in time come to understand. 😢 if that make any sense, he's a Tragic Hero. Theres more too it but to keep it simple without spoiling...
Literally, the greatest movie i have ever seen
Wanna recommend you guys watch "beast of no nation". Its a pretty heavy movie and it's based on the Liberian civil war. I don't know if your style but would definitely love to see y'all watch it