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Darkseid: Unpopular Opinions/Hot Takes
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2023
- Darkseid in my opinion is the ultimate Justice League villain and the ultimate DC universe villain. He's my second favourite character after Batman. Darkseid's demeanor, confidence, determination and menacing nature is everything I look for in a villain.
Now let's see what some of you had to say!
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Grant Morrison's Final Crisis is the best New god/Darkseid story in my opinion, but the story to so deep, weird and complex that I don't think most DC fans would even understand, it goes deep into platonic and higher dimensional concepts.
Oh god ya I forgot about that... I think I'll have to read it again.
@@tyrellmultimedia sure, you should give it a few chances because I don't think reading it just once or twice will get you anywhere.
You are absolutely correct
@@Velvet_Intrigue thanks
I can't co-sign that because it literally pretends that the heroes have little familiarity with the new gods.
I think DC should make a series about the New Gods, especially Highfather, Orion, Mister Miracle, Big Barda, Lightray, Bekka, and the Forever People and their interactions with Darkseid. The show could give the New Gods a chance to develop and set up just how terrifying Darkseid is, with the New Genesis Gods trying to contact the Justice League and the Green Lantern Corps for help in the fight against Darkseid. I'd have a story where the Forever People and Orion are out on a mission to collect a component for a transmitter that can send an encrypted message to Earth, only for them to encounter Darkseid. The Forever People want to help, but they know they can't fight him and run off, Orion has his "Hello, Father" moment where Darkseid kicks his ass, only for Orion to get one very lucky surprise hit on him, and then get away through pure luck.
Also not gonna lie ur bold take may be the Best out of all of these, since it would make darkseids story and new gods lore so much better! DC should hire u once for writing a comic book like that! Would absolutely love to see that! ✌️
Thanks Temple I appreciate that vote of confidence! I would absolutely love to write a comic. As much as I love Batman, Old Gods/New Gods is something I'd love to tackle.
It's a shame Darkseid was used/planned to be used in the Snyderverse, because this makes his appearance in the DCU a bit unlikely or at least not in the first few chapters. I just think he should be buildt up to like in the DCAU. Maybe Superman meets him first, then the rest of the new gods and then they can start building a Final Crisis type event
I know i'm arriving late with the hot take but i think Darkseid should be portrayed ONLY as a Justice League threat and no more as a Superman one.
Jack Kirby intended Darkseid as THE purest manifestation of wickedness, the fact that he appeared on the pages of Superman's pal Jimmy Olsen was simply due to contractual obligation: when Kirby left Marvel and went to DC they proposed to Kirby to work on 3 original projects where he would have had complete control BUT in return he had to work on the least sold DC title (that at the time was Superman's pal Jimmy Olsen) and Kirby accepted.
Kirby basically used the Jimmy title as a Trojan horse for his REAL ideas.
Since DC nowadays can't even use the New Gods properly if Darkseid needs to be put against someone i would say that only the entire league could stand a chance.
I'm ok with Superman fighting Darkseid IN A JUSTICE LEAGUE COMIC where all the others are doing something but not Darkseid being an actual Superman villain.
I get it that he wants Superman to be subdued to him and make him a good soldier for his army but the fact is that Darkseid simply sees Superman as useful for his plans and nothing more, if Darkseid sees another member of the League as useful he would behave with that member EXACTLY as he behaves with Superman.
And beside Superman has another villain that covers that spot in the Superman's rogue's gallery: Mongul.
I don't understand how people are ok with having both Darkseid and Mongul in Superman's rogue's gallery when they basically fill the same spot: intergalactic tyrant that is feared in the entire universe.
Let Mongul be the menace Superman can take down by himself while for Darkseid all the league is required
Snyder haters : "Darkseid was weak in the flashback scene in Zack Snyder's Justice League"
Me: A young Darkseid without the anti life equation or omega effect took on Zeus, Artemis, Ares, a Green, Lantern, and the King of Atlantis...But yeah he's so weak😂🤣
Precisely. And prior to his loss on Earth he still ravaged thousands of other worlds 😂 so he's still crazy powerful without anti life or omega.
The New Gods are actual Gods. Every Pantheon of deities know of each other and recognize each other ask Gods. There are beings who rival them sure but they are none the less.
Thx for making me appear in this video! (also Just to make it clear idk if George was inspired by orion and darkseid but it pretty much seems like it, since vader is kinda like darkseid and he also talks abt darkside of the force being powerfull where as Orion is that hero that tries to beat his own father that is dcs greatest evil). Hence i think George was inspired by Orion and darkseid but idk if thats true, would love if that would be though, whats confirmed is that vaders creation was inspired by dr doom but hopefully Orion and darkseid stuff is true too! 😂, keep up the great work! ✌️
Thanks for the context and I for sure will!
In my DCU, I do have a movie idea similar to Apokolips War, but it's titled Justice League: Darkseid War. The movie has some horror elements to it, like Darkseid literally cutting Aquaman in half with his Omega Beams. In the end, most of the heroes do not survive, and Tyrell, my Justice League roster was in its "Unlimited" era. About 50 Leaguers went to Apokolips to confront Darkseid. But only seven survived: Clark, Bruce, Diana, Hal, Barry, Mera and Victor. Darkseid decided to take the seven surviving heroes and torment them, by brainwashing Bruce, turning Diana into a cybernetic Wonder Woman, and then going to Oa and forcing Hal to watch as the entire Green Lantern Corps is killed and the battery is destroyed.
There is a time jump, five years into the future, where Superman has a Kryptonite tattoo on his chest, Hal is a drunken man, and Damian Wayne is the leader of the League of Assassins and the new Ra's Al Ghūl. The film focuses on the survivors as they work to finally take Darkseid down for good. And it ends with Wally running back in time and creating another Flashpoint.
I think Darkseid as powerful as he is he needs to win more and I don’t just mean battles. I can only think of 4 or 5 storylines he fully won.
This is why ridiculously OP characters need to be scaled back power-wise if they’re going to be recurring & if earth 🌍 miraculously stays intact each time
Yes, I agree that Darkseid can beat Thanos even with the infinity gauntlet if Darkseid is actually trying in the fight. If Darkseid is only half assing the fight, then Thanos would take it. At the end of the day, Santos one shattered multiple god tear high father beings in the marvel universe during the infinity gauntlet run.
Also a thought i had about Darkseids motive, (even though I like him just being pure evil) is what if he seeks the Anti Life Equation to end war across the universe because he grew up as a pawn for the New Gods and has seen what war does to a planet. I think it would be interesting in a Peacemaker kinda way where he desperately wants peace but what he does in order to get it is just as bad if not worse than the thing he's trying to stop.
Thats pure awesomeness idea for a darkseid story! Hopefully they use it in some sort of story in future!
My opinion - while I love both Darkseid and The Joker - they have been used as main villains way too much lately Joker should have a story once every five years and Darjseid once a decade - otherwise they lose the specialness that makes them good characters. Hell I am not really reading Batman that much these days because every other storyline is a Joker storyline. I’ll just read Nightwing instead
A backstory or even a small part of a movie would be perfect for Darkseid. Marvel did a great job with Thanos and you can kind of see why he was mass murdering billions of people. You kind of almost agreed with him..... alamost. Don't know if I wanted to be snapped and come back after the blip or survived the snapped originally. Which one is worse.
I would be good to see why he is so evil and why he wants to dominate and control everyone.
I did not know that Wonder Woman had a niece or a sister, comics these days lol
They change things and add stuff at such a quick rate it's hard to keep up lol
When I saw Black Adam I can tell they were staying true to Snyders universe from not just the mature storytelling (when the forced humor didn't show itself) to having Intergang be the human threat. I immediately went to a stranger near me and just said "Ahh Darkseid is involved" which makes sense. He looked at me like I was nuts. I'm wondering if the original idea would've revealed that the descendant was essentially Bruno Manheim type working with Apokolips to take over while Darkseid was looking for the mineral that could take on Captain Marvel and Black Adam when he came to Earth as he was now using the old ways
There was absolutely no mature storytelling in black Adam LOL
@@kadegetslaid634 There was some, but it was bombarded by the forced humor.
@moviereviews4life it was the most generic movie I have ever seen, like it was atrociously bad
@@kadegetslaid634 That is your opinion, I've seen worse Captain Marvel, Birds of Prey, Elektra, Fantastic Four 2, Thor 3 & 4. This at least was entertaining for me despite the bad humor.
@moviereviews4life fantastic four 2 was literally the best fantastic four movie imo, and ragnarock was great
Do you think it would be too soon to hint at Darkseid in the new dcu?
I think darkseid should be like in chapter 3 or something but if they use him earlier hope they do his character justice lol.
@Temple277 yeah I agree they should hold off on him, I just think it's a shame because we came so close to having a Darkseid movie with Snyder at the helm
Ya unfortunately I think the DCU will go with someone else to distance themseleves from what Snyder was doing.
Real debate Darkseid or goku
Darkseid easily