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Diniz has mentioned in one of his interviews that "Brazil was trying to follow european football style, with positional football and lack of individual plays, style which was developed to play against Brazil in previous decades". This quote itself reveals so much because, why are we brazilians trying to follow this play style instead of improving ours, which has been so successful for so long? Diniz come to Brazil as a light at the end of tunnel, encouraging Brazil's players to go for individual plays, flair, dribbling, fast-paced plays and passes, this is our way of play, this is what brought 5 world cups to us, not pretending to be europeans.
Its pretty simple - a lot of your players play in Europe, where positional play is king. therefore brazilian players are no more brazilian in terms of playing style. As it was pointed out in this video, they have a lot of problems trying to become brasilian again. Unless european football shifts towards more funcional play, brazilian players will forever loose their indentity. Ufortunately.
@@frontdown3249 I get your point that playing in Europe makes it harder for the players to follow this kind of style. However, even though they're playing the positional way in Europe, I think it's kinda natural for Brazilians to play the Diniz way, due to growing up playing futsal (in a small pitch, with lots of dribbling and individual plays) for example. I might be mistaken about that, but I hope I'm not hahah
@@frontdown3249I gotta disagree. Although Brazilian players develop to adapt to European style football, it doesn’t mean that they will have a hard time adapting to their identity. I grew up playing quick counter attack football so I instinctively know how to play counter attack football. However, when I play with a well coordinated team, I have to play more possession based style. It took me a while but I adapted but I’m comfortable with the style that I grew up with. Brazilians, although they develop their careers in Europe, will naturally be able to play Joga Bonito without any issues. Its a lack of talent that can play Joga Bonito that is an issue with Brazilian soccer. However, they’ll be back to destroy football. Its in their blood.
As Argentinian this brings me so much relief and happiness. Our Brazilian brothers needed those tactics so bad... And football itself needed a new Jogo Bonito Brasil ❤
@@igorblackpantermove9 Don't be stupid, yes we are! Rivalry does not prevent the opponent from being able to admire our football! That's a genuine feeling.
So hyped this is not just a one off and you will be following the journey and keeping us posted! I am a high school coach in the US, and my Varsity Coach and I want to play pure football like this...high level counterpressing, and then play. Joga Bonito...not automations. Diniz has inspired us to try and do our own sort of Fluminense up here in Montana. 👊
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college. This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture. It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces. The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany. A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
Brazilian here, 36, watching football since 92 when Tele Santana's São Paulo FC smashed twice UCL (not true UCL i know) champions. Seleção 82-86 and São Paulo FC highly influenced managers like Guardiola. So what I'm sayin that you might wanna study Brazilian 90s and 00s football bro. Some clubes to watch: São Paulo FC 91-93; Palmeiras 93-99; Corinthians 98-00; Santos and Cruzeiro 00-04. Those clubs managed to be the keystones for 94 and 2002 titles. Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Djalminha, Alex, Vampeta, César Sampaio, Zinho, Mazinho, Flavio Conceição, Mauro Silva, Aldair, Antonio Carlos Zago to name just a few who played for those clubs. They all played mainly in 442 wide/4132/4312/41212. Full backs supported at the same time, two CDMs, two CAMs, 1 SS and 1 CF. Basically it was have 60% posession and do whatever do not LOSE ball. EDIT: I forgot managers/coaches: Felipão, Vanderlei Luxemburgo and Tele Santana mainly! Those 3 were inspiration to Fernando Diniz football nowadays.
Diniz' game feels a lot like futsal. Neymar, Robaldinho, Ronaldo and so many of our great players started as futsal players when young. And Diniz actually was a profissional futsal player, I believe.
nice take on this, i notice their pattern immediately always come for pass 1-2 or knows where to do attacking run its actually (i think) like Pep , attacking box per box (in the field) with many possible players but yea, will be very hard to implement it because its so much different to europe playstyle
Not really. Diniz only played for and managed football teams, he had no relation whatsoever with futsal, though I understand the point you guys are making.
@@fabioriato Diniz does have a big connection with Futsal. He was a Futsal player before playing football professionally and actually is said to have been a better futsal player than football player. It seems he did not play Futsal professionally, though. He went on to play football after being a very appreciated futsal player. When I made that comment I didn't know for sure his connection with Futsal. But after that, I've seen it confirmed on ESPN Brasil's “Sonho de Menino, com Fernando Diniz” documentary film. Some articles also touch on this matter.
Actually this style doesn’t suit hem, he likes to drible and in this style he has much less space for 1v1. But he is so good that he has other quality’s to impact the game
Diniz Fluminense has the most dribles in the league, the players aree expected to drible a lot not only in 1v1 but during progression, you often see André (the most defensive midfielder who even plays as center back sometimes) making risky dribles almost in his own area between 2 or 3 oposite players, thats actually where neymar shines more, he doesnt have the explosion he had as young to 1v1 as consistently but havin imense ball control is very important to progress in tight spaces as Diniz teams tends to play @@josiaschaveiro5057
@@josiaschaveiro5057 Neymar would shine in this style as a winger as Fluminense creates many 1v1 situations with Arias and Keno, but Brazil severely lacks a "playmaker" so he has to do it since he's also the best one at that right now. Neymar would've loved to be born 10 years earlier.
@@josiaschaveiro5057 actually I think he likes playing one-two passes with teammates near him. And it suits him better at his age when his athleticism has gone down. He doesn't need to sprint as much to get pass the opponents when that isn't as much of an objective.
Como argentino, como amante del buen fútbol celebro que Brazil vuelva a sus raíces y a su juego vibrante y hermoso. Espero que esto sirva para regresar a la gloria al pueblo brasileño y a su fútbol.
fijate que lo mismo le sirvio a Argentina para ganar tanto el mundial como la copa america, volver a sus raices y jugar un futbol que se sale del estandar europeo.
I should mention Bruno Guimaraes was coached by Diniz as a youth player and it was Diniz that promoted him to the professional team in Clube Athletico Paranaense. They have a close relationship, worth looking into btw. So, if there was a single player that would know the coach's book by heart, that would be BG. For sure Diniz will have a hard time changing the mindset players like Casemiro, Rodrigo, Vini Jr, Marquinhos etc, comfortable with what made them champions in some of the worlds toughest leagues, tournaments...
At least I think the Madrid players will be more flexible because of Anccelloti's style. Already this season with the arrival of Bellingham he's having Vini and Rodrygo leave the touch lines and drift a lot more than last season.
Great analysis. Here are some observations: Bruno Guimarães's first experience as a professional player came in a small club called Audax and it was with Diniz as the coach. He had his breakout seasons later in Athletico - PR where he worked with Fernando Diniz once again. So he can most definitely be a center piece in Diniz's work with seleção and that's one of the reasons. The players are indeed mostly from europe, where they work in a much different style of play, but in all of his career one of his characteristics has been how fast he can make teams play his signature style. So despite not having much time with the players, I think in a few games we might be seeing the squad more comfortable with his style. And finally, the biggest question mark regarding his work is the fact that it's not supposed to last long. CBF's president has said publically that Ancelotti will be running the team at the Copa America, so this leaves everybody wondering what's the point of developing such a bold project if in one year's time we'll have a different coach with different ideas. Loved the analysis, can't wait for the next episodes!
Although the time matters, it is the first time that Diniz gets whatever player he wants with any style he needs. Diniz is not well known as a winner in Brazil, but, we usually attribute this due the financial situation is he's team. This time, the Dinizism is going to be put in real proof.
The Brazilian team of 1982 had certain things in their favour which is radically different from their current situation and that Zico, Falco, Socrates and Eder all played their football IN Brazil. That being said Diniz and his methods of training is the absolute way forward for Brazil’s team to return to the Beautiful Game once again.
Sou torcedor do Fluminese. Ver os jogos é algo prazeroso. Diniz tenta resgatar o futebol criativo, forte e eficiente. Ele encoraja seus jogadores a acreditarem na vitória.
Neymar was having an awful game against Peru until the 90th minute when he assisted Marquinhos' goal. It's crazy how even when having a really bad game he can become decisive in an instant.
Neymar is a genius player, definitely one of the most skilled playmakers of all time. He's made bad career choices and is out of shape now, but you can still see glimmers of his potential
@@snakeeater80 against croatia he did nothing, and Peru was using the same tactic of croatia but the DT of Peru simply Broke all of his system in the last 15 minutes and so Brasil wins, basically cause of a Big tactical error
The posicional playing method is perfect for Japan and other asian contries. Brazil needs more than anything is to be in a great psychological state. This has been lacking in recent WC eliminations. Stay calm, relaxed and having fun in the dance of football. Nossa bagunça organizada!
Modern day mobile rondo throughout the pitch. BRILLIANT! Will be easier to implement at club level vs national team when the players come together infrequently.
This is so exciting to see! I’m so bored watching teams try and play so similarly to one another based off of what pep is doing. Great upload! Love this channel
Excellent video! I'm a Fluminense fan, and here we call this style of play "Dinizismo, in reference to Fernando Diniz himself. We call it that way, because in addition to being Diniz's particular style of play, it is also his philosophy of life, which goes beyond the field. His life philosophy is linked to first having good relationships between people, and from that, in his view, a team is built. It also considers solidarity, so everyone defends, creates and attacks. And he also considers it essential that players play happily and without fear of making mistakes, he generally takes responsibility for any mistake his players may make. I hope to have contributed a little more to a deeper understanding of Dinizism.
@@LucasViniciusDeALencar São diferentes. No Flamengo do JJ os jogadores se compactavam no ultimo terço do campo e faziam pressão, porém tinha mta amplitude. Já no caso do Diniz não tem amplitude alguma, ele aglomera os jogadores apenas em um lado do campo. Imagine uma peça de dominó, a do Diniz fica deitada e a do JJ em pé. É basicamente isso.
Neymar's rapid adaptation to Diniz's football philosophy can be attributed to his roots in futsal, which fundamentally shaped his approach to the 11-a-side game. This background has endowed him with an innate understanding of the game, particularly suitable for dynamic and skill-focused styles like Diniz's. This approach naturally favors players with an element of unpredictability and flair in their play. However, it raises the question of how this more spontaneous, skill-oriented method will fare against a disciplined, positional strategy, especially when faced with rapid counter-attacks. I do believe that this philosophy if uphold by the Brazilian federation, will for sure bring back highly skilful and a joy to watch players.
Esse estilo potencializa nosso futebol e nossos jogadores. Temos um estilo próprio que já ganhou 5 copas do mundo. Parabéns pela excelente análise do estilo Diniz de futebol.
Really appreciate your effort to use brazilian portuguese words to describe a few plays mate. You have perfect understanding of Diniz's play style. It's rare to see that. I think it has a lot of potential. It's usually a play style that players like and when it works it's incredibly beautiful. Congrats, great content.
I'm a Brazil fan from Bangladesh. Please in your 2nd part, talk about defense and off-the-ball strategy of Fernando Diniz. Brazil conceded a ugly goal vs Bolivia thogh scored 5 goals. When the payers stay closer instead of remaining wide, one small mistake can bring a counter attack, isn't it? Fluniese defense is not the best in Brazilio SerieA. And, What's happened to Richarlison in Brazil squad. Richarlison is struggling in tottenham as well. But in Tite's Brazil, Richarlison was shinning. All the players are used to play in european regular style. Can they cope up with a new style all of a sudden? Though all of them are prefessional.
As a Fluminense supporter, Bolivia's goal was a classic "Fluminense fumbling and conceding a goal" by lack of attention. It'll happen a lot before they get it together. They shoudn't give that much space to opposing players and be really quick to retrive the ball or make a foul to stop the attack. It's one of the reasons André and Nino are really high regarded by Fluminense. Bummer they weren't tested in these matches but Diniz probably already knows what they are capable of and want to impose his style to the others first. Can't wait the world to see the crazyness of taking a RB/LB and putting a winger or CF when the team is not winning against Argentina making a midfielder the new RB/LB. About Richarlison after the World Cup, not sure if it's psychological problem. The lack of goals making a pressure that makes him play worse or something else. He does not deserve to be a starter or even called right now. I would like to see Vitor Roque or someone new for the position.
I think Brazil is literally the only team in the world who'd love the freedom of individual accountability and flair. However I'm very curious about off the ball tactics as well. Its clear the European style don't work for Brazil.
Yes. His 2020-21 São Paulo team is an exemple of how bad his system can be and how easy it is to score on his defenses, losing a championship they led for almost the entire year. His whole career has been like that, he is not qualified for the job.
I like that this style is such a contrast to European Football. I feel like it's a shame that Ancelotti seems to be coming in the next year. I feel like sticking to Diniz and letting him build on this project is much more exciting.
To be fair, if there’s one current great European manager that you’d want to continue Diniz’s style and pretty much not change a working system (assuming it becomes successful for Brazil), it’s Ancelotti. He’s not obsessed with tactics.
As an East African, I always loved the way Brazil played football, especially in the late seventies and eighties. Just take yourself back to 1982 and 86. They entertained the whole world. That is what football should be. I hope Brazil come back and win a world cup like the way they used to. Amen
as a Brazilian, I love the ideal of football Fernando Diniz defends, even though he's kind of underappreciated, and sometimes ridicularized (by the other teams' supporters) for not having won anything relevant for big clubs in his coaching career yet. But I must say I don't like the way his situation at the Seleção is being conducted. As an interim manager, for a year, so that Carlo Ancelotti can take the reins in 2024 to play the Copa America (most probably). If I were a player, I wouldn't be so concerned in trying to fit in the way Fernando wants the team to play, because he's not gonna be there any longer, and the one taking charge after him is very well known in the football world, and everybody knows how Carleto wants his players to behave on the pitch. I firmly believe Fernando has the potential to be the manager of the Brazilian national team, but I guess the people at CBF just pushed it way sooner than it was due
Actually, on the flipside, Diniz's tactics allows the players to play more freely with some sort of philosophy in mind. The players individualism and relation to one another is actually a good way to increase the bond and understanding between the players. I think the senior players would rather have that while waiting for Ancelotti to manage them than be bogged down by complex tactical instructions all the time. Think of it as a football holiday on the pitch.
Nah, Ancelotti's contract in Spain finishes after the Copa America, so Diniz is taking them into the competition and then relinquishing the post, supposedly... But I'm hoping the players "get" the system quickly and charm the pants off everybody. The Copa is in the US, imagine all those coaches throwing away their manuals in despair!!!
Both of them are good choices. Diniz is a young manager with a novel style who wants to prove himself, while Ancellotti is a seasoned winner who wants a new challenge. Much better than Tite, who spent most of his career managing average players, repeatedly chosen to manage brazil's unique star squad simply because he's brazillian.
Diniz will stay. The call of Carlo Ancelloti was a bullshit of CBF. They are lying to brazilian fans. And i prefer Diniz than Ancelloti. Positional game, no more!
Could you do one about what Argentina did to win the last World Cup after all those years? I remember when I realized that they were going to be Champions: when Paredes gave two consecutive slide tackles, made a foul on the second and shot the ball on Neatherlands bench... it's a dirty way of playing, but they do stuff like that to impose themselves shaking opponents' minds, something common in the Libertadores Greetings from Brazil!! I'm loving your videos about Diniz. I really hope it works and that us Brazilians are patient enough to let him develop his work with time.
Another fantastic video on one of my favourite topics, looking forward to you covering more! Up there with Tifo irl for one of the best right now, keep it up!
I'd appreciate if you analyse Leverkusen under Xabi Alonso! They seem to play a mixture of positional play and relationism, in a highly fluid system. Definitely interesting to me and successful as well :-)
Excellent video, I think you hit the nail on the head. Aside from Neymar and Madrid Brazilians all of the European based Brazilians are going to be hard wired into doing positional play passes (which totally goes against the whole point of their current style). I think Brazil have huge potential if they build around Vini and Rodrygo. They're club teammates and they'll have that telepathic connection if they keep developing together.
I complained about diniz in a previous video of yours, as a life-long fluminense fan. Although there are still some aspects of his play he needs to improve, he has led us to the libertadores semi finals which will be happening next week. It's only the second time we reach this stage of the tournament in our history, and the quarter final games were quite easy for the team. I'm very hopeful Diniz can put us through to the finals with his jogo funcional.
Your future coverage of the Brazilian NT will be very interesting, not only for the analysis but also because of the rather... questionable, way CBF is handling the coach situation. Since Ancelotti will supposedly take over after having Diniz for a year I can't help but wonder, if Dinizismo works wonders for the Seleção, will Ancelotti try and adapt his coaching style to this new reality, or will he simply ignore it and have the team be closer to what we have at RM, which is not completely positional but certainly not the Diniz style either?
It could work fine. Since most players play on positional style teams, having some experience with Diniz' style and then going to something that is in-between could prove very beneficent.
The influence of the 1982 Brazilian team on Diniz's proposal is clear. In this sense, I think that many people forget a characteristic common to most Brazilian players on that squad: they were ambidextrous. It seems silly, but Cruyff himself already pointed out the importance of this ability for modern football. I believe that the national team's football will improve a lot if the players focus on improving their passing with both legs, passing with the same quality whether with their left leg or with their right leg.
Greetings from California! Diniz is such a breath of fresh air, he created an interesting style that forces the players to move the ball forward. It is definitely daring and when it works, it works in a way that is very fun to watch.
O diniz ainda esta desenvolvendo esse estilo de jogo, ele é um tecnico muito novo e ainda tem muito o que percorrer, ele ja mostrou que é capas de aprender com os erros e melhorar seu estilo de jogo, se der para ele o tempo certo tenho certeza de uqe ele vai aprimorar esse estilo e vai se tornar um grande tecnico um dia. Abraço
Dia 4 de novembro. Atualiza teu comentário . Fluminense será campeão da libertadores da América. Diniz torna-se realidade. Na seleção, torço pra que continue e dê certo.
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college. This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture. It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces. The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany. Thanks for the video my friends. A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
I love your videos on Diniz, such a refreshing and interesting way to play football. Your comprehensive analysis of this is most welcome! More please :)
At 4:30 when you talk about some players instinctively passing to open space, you can see both Brazilian players closest to the ball complaining that it was passed away. I think most of the Brazilian players prefer this relational style.
At the end of the 90s, when all the best Brazilian players were in Europe, I was sad because the national team did not have players from Brazilian clubs, as was the case until the 1980s. I remember saying at that time: "this is not The Brazilian team, this is a European team of Brazilians." Brazil in 1982 was celebrated for its stars and how they played together. Brazil in 2002 was celebrated by individual names only.
Great Vid. Europe changed all its tactics to overcome the Brazilians over the years. Now they changing so as not to become a boring European game as we have seen in recent years.
WHAT? A gringo vídeo speaking about Diniz? I am astonished. He's a very coach and is at Fluminense club doing a great work. The club is on Libertadores finish after of much time and i wait then they will win.
As a non-Brazilian I'm excited for this appointment. It is going to be a lot of fun watching a country as rich in talent as Brazil play in a way that will be so different from everyone else.
Brazil needs defenders who are more comfortable with the ball. Who can ‘pausa’ as well as give forward passes. The attackers and midfielders can hugely profit from this patterns.
I think that a viable option would be to put Nino or André from Fluminense at the beginning of the work, and after Marquinhos and Magalhães are adapted, put them back in the team.
We were waiting for Acelotti for the position but Diniz is proving to be much better than expected, maybe he can stay in the position, we hope so... Congrtz for the job! great video..
It looks like a variation of total football that's extreme in nature. It embodies the idea from a total football perspective thst each player can take on multiple roles. I hope Arteta my manager is watching Diniz and De Zerbi.
Total football was posisitional play players constantly rotating with each other inside one set structure this is players just moving freely as a whole
Wow! this video is amazing, as a Brazilian, I got mor info here than in most sports broadcast here in Brazil. This coming from a person who consumes a lot of sports media here. Well done mate.
I really was waiting for your video. I hope you really do more analysis during Diniz time with the Seleção. After your two last videos, I could see perfectly the Diniz's game structure, and was able to point the same mistakes you pointed in the video. Just waiting the analysis for next games as well.
I liked the analysis a lot. I agree that we need our own style to combat the European standardization, it's the way we won all the world cups, "sambando com a bola no pé" as they say. Dribbling, fast-paced passes and speed. That is what makes Brazil, Brazil.
fluminense fan here. what diniz must improve the most is his making fast adjustments to create direct attacks when opposing teams overload pressure by making 6+ men blitzes. i think you mentioned something in this direction in your video about how circulation isn't always best on a relationist team, but there's a key game vs américa-mg that illustrate this a lot. fluminense suffered a really aggressive overloaded press all first half in this match, and in the second half diniz subbed an extra 9, played a 3 strikers formation and fluminense just beat the press via direct long passes, and it was imo some of the strongest performances by fluminense in second half. diniz needs to create more consistent direct passing routines so his team can make faster adjustments vs press cheaters. i think he's already aware of that because of his new 2-striker formation with Cano and John Kennedy that has been a success so far. also, i would add that it's not true that diniz is a radical relationist as his team does have positional concepts, specially with the wingers keno and arias. i believe you watched the first leg vs olimpia in libertadores where diniz played a 6-man front very positional to beat a stacked bus parked in front of the area. when i watched the past few selecao games, i couldn't help but wonder what would be neymar's career if he had a coach like diniz in his physical prime and i believe rodrygo-neymar-vini will be a terrific deathball of an attack. also, i think diniz benefits a lot from having a very versatile, mobile and switchy 8 (like alexsander), i am interested in watching lucas paquetá under diniz.
Hey @ThePuristFootball, just wanted to say that I really love your videos! I've been getting into watching more football recently, and your videos are always so insightful and wonderfully informative :D Cannot wait for more stuff on Diniz's Brazil, his style goes against the grain of most European wisdom and I am so here for it! Could you also make some videos analysing women's football? I thought that the World Cup was filled with some football of the highest quality (I was particularly blown away by how Aitana Bonmati played throughout the tournament) and it would be really cool to get some insight into the different playstyles there!
Excellent analysis...Brazil was always a free form team, players who were out of position just knew where they had to be...I was watching old school footage and Brazil seemed to have used a 4222 which allowed them to either all be on one wing or slightly change to occupy the midfield but rheyd always have an outlet. It's so funny how from continent to continent the styles differ
As peruvian , a really love your analisis. Some annotations : The two annulled goals has peruvian work, the "kick to the free spot" was read by the final line of peruvian team. This joggo bonito, is pretty difficult to read to European team but Peru, could be the most near to the same philosphy. We don have extraordinary players but in the past we have more than a brazillian DT in our team. Lookign forward for the next game Brazil , vs Bielsa's Uruguay (will be amazing). Cheers
I absoulutly love your reading about the (sort of) brazilian subconscious, and the way the teams in brazil apply a very distinctive thinking ways compared to the european one.
ive always believed in joga bonito if diniz is trying to bring that style of play i would much proud of him encouraging the selacao playing how brazil is supposed not by me assuming all brazilians are good tho thats all
The defence is the most important part of his strategy. The CBs need to be brave and skilled enough to carry the ball and pass it when in possession (even attacking if opportunity arises). On the other hand, the extreme counter press leaves them very exposed to counterattacks, so they need to be fully aware of their positioning to either clear the pass or use a tactical foul if needed. The WBs often play inverted as a part of the midfield as to create overloads, which is great when in possession but tricky when out of it.
This style of play reminds me of how Argentina performed their counter attack against Croatia in the worldcup semi-final '23. Their counter attack was very unorthodox, very narrow centrally, not using width at all, and randomly passing to each other, kind of like the example of relational play in this video. I think it was difficult for Croatia to defend against it, because the movement of Argentinian players were so unpredictable. It wasn't the whole team playing like that tho, just the front 3 (?) players.
This comment doesn’t make much sense, all quick counter attacks are just players rushing and looking for space to receive passes as quick as possible. Basically all successfull counter attacks transition will look like this or just a long and accurate pass to the most forward player. Doesn’t make sense to player run to their position and start to tiktaka for counter attack, lol
Sou torcedor do Fluminense, Fernando Diniz é um excelente treinador. Seu estilo de jogo é diferente, ele valoriza a posse de bola, e suas jogadas são trabalhadas de aproximação dos jogadores
4:22 You could hear Diniz through the transmission screaming "RODRYGO", it was kinda funny but yeah, some players still have to get in the rhythm of how Diniz wants them to play.
I think personally this tactic is the future of football....tactics have a circle and i think positional football has reached its full potential as did tiki taka before that or any other system excited to watch these tactics develop in the european game
I'm pretty excited to see how Paquetá fits into this team because I remember him and Neymar nailing those one-twos that just feels right in this system.
Great video! Unfortunaly, many brasilians underestimate the play style of Diniz. They call "Dininismo" (something like Dininism) to make fun, but i hope that he can build your job with the necessary time for it.
Yes, Brazilian footballers playing in Europe practice every day positional football, because that's what their coaches want. But, the style of football Diniz is trying to make the NT play is the style of play these players learned when they started playing football, when they were 4 or 5 years old, it's the style of play they grow up with. It's only a matter of time before the NT starts to click again and the "Jogo bonito" comes back again. I can't wait.
If I’m not mistaken, Colombia also plays a version of this football. Brazil and Colombia are the teams to watch when it comes to this style of football, very exciting to watch when it works!
If you really think about it, it was bound to happen. The Brazil style is onordonthox. Now having all of them together being part of the play, it's like creating a rhythm of a song
seria muito bom ver o ganso e neymar juntos denovo, deve ser como uma saga que se fecha. tinha tudo para ter dado certo e nao deu (ainda). diniz tem 2 caras que com certeza se entendem com diniz implantando o metodo na seleçao abre muito espaço para arriscar a dupla como como algo que pode se tornar um classico Bom demais ver a historia sendo escrita acredito que se vem um titulo seria algo muito bonito de se ver
Coaches usually dont let players take chances on the game. They are scared of errors... Diniz is so far different on that, because he understands that we are humans and we fail... so, he just accepts the errors and encourages the players to try dribbles, to experiment... because creativity is the essence of Brazilian football.
Grade analysis, this is the base of our football. Coming from the Futsal and the Várzea… remember, our pitches in favelas does not allow long passes. It is all about proximity, 1 to 1 and passing forward
As Brazilian that is the best way to play football ! Let’s not be Europeans but Brazilian way! We love the game not the robotic formation! I expect a seleção going to be more fluid !
foi legal da parte dele colocar legendas em portugues, porque as legendas automaticas sao horrives. eu como brasileiro adoro a abordagem tatica dele, no youtube brasileiro há uma escassez de canais de analise tatica, tomara que o algoritimo apresente mais videos do canal dele na comunidade de futebol no youtube brasileiro
Amazing analysis! Diniz is much criticized in Brazil because, despite the “Joga Bonito” style he has not won many titles. His way of playing the game tends to take some time for players to unserstand, let’s how’ll be.
BTW, some is really botering me, in Brasil we don`t use almost never say "joga bonito". It`s was a nike marketing campaing back in the 2000-2010. TWhen we talk about "classic" (brasil 70 oor 82) footbal we usually "futebol arte""
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CBF bunch of crooks
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Diniz has mentioned in one of his interviews that "Brazil was trying to follow european football style, with positional football and lack of individual plays, style which was developed to play against Brazil in previous decades". This quote itself reveals so much because, why are we brazilians trying to follow this play style instead of improving ours, which has been so successful for so long? Diniz come to Brazil as a light at the end of tunnel, encouraging Brazil's players to go for individual plays, flair, dribbling, fast-paced plays and passes, this is our way of play, this is what brought 5 world cups to us, not pretending to be europeans.
Its pretty simple - a lot of your players play in Europe, where positional play is king. therefore brazilian players are no more brazilian in terms of playing style. As it was pointed out in this video, they have a lot of problems trying to become brasilian again. Unless european football shifts towards more funcional play, brazilian players will forever loose their indentity. Ufortunately.
@@frontdown3249Didn't the Brazilian 1994 World Cup team play a very organised European type of football?
@@frontdown3249 I get your point that playing in Europe makes it harder for the players to follow this kind of style. However, even though they're playing the positional way in Europe, I think it's kinda natural for Brazilians to play the Diniz way, due to growing up playing futsal (in a small pitch, with lots of dribbling and individual plays) for example. I might be mistaken about that, but I hope I'm not hahah
@hectorlesinhovski6494 Well as you saw, it's natural for them to play the European way as that's where they've spent majority of their careers
@@frontdown3249I gotta disagree. Although Brazilian players develop to adapt to European style football, it doesn’t mean that they will have a hard time adapting to their identity. I grew up playing quick counter attack football so I instinctively know how to play counter attack football. However, when I play with a well coordinated team, I have to play more possession based style. It took me a while but I adapted but I’m comfortable with the style that I grew up with. Brazilians, although they develop their careers in Europe, will naturally be able to play Joga Bonito without any issues. Its a lack of talent that can play Joga Bonito that is an issue with Brazilian soccer. However, they’ll be back to destroy football. Its in their blood.
As Argentinian this brings me so much relief and happiness. Our Brazilian brothers needed those tactics so bad... And football itself needed a new Jogo Bonito Brasil ❤
WE NOT BROTHERS
Every chance we got to fuck the shit up of Argentina WE WILL.
@@igorblackpantermove9 Don't be stupid, yes we are! Rivalry does not prevent the opponent from being able to admire our football!
That's a genuine feeling.
@@igorblackpantermove9 Deixa de ser palhaço, seu infantil.
Que las bromas continuem kkkk
So hyped this is not just a one off and you will be following the journey and keeping us posted!
I am a high school coach in the US, and my Varsity Coach and I want to play pure football like this...high level counterpressing, and then play. Joga Bonito...not automations.
Diniz has inspired us to try and do our own sort of Fluminense up here in Montana. 👊
Very refreshing to read this, man... Keep it up!
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college.
This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture.
It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces.
The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany.
A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
I'm from Brazil and Fluminense fan, I hope you can really develop your players and show some beautiful football in Montana following Diniz's steps.
Brazilian here, 36, watching football since 92 when Tele Santana's São Paulo FC smashed twice UCL (not true UCL i know) champions. Seleção 82-86 and São Paulo FC highly influenced managers like Guardiola. So what I'm sayin that you might wanna study Brazilian 90s and 00s football bro. Some clubes to watch: São Paulo FC 91-93; Palmeiras 93-99; Corinthians 98-00; Santos and Cruzeiro 00-04. Those clubs managed to be the keystones for 94 and 2002 titles. Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Djalminha, Alex, Vampeta, César Sampaio, Zinho, Mazinho, Flavio Conceição, Mauro Silva, Aldair, Antonio Carlos Zago to name just a few who played for those clubs. They all played mainly in 442 wide/4132/4312/41212. Full backs supported at the same time, two CDMs, two CAMs, 1 SS and 1 CF. Basically it was have 60% posession and do whatever do not LOSE ball.
EDIT: I forgot managers/coaches: Felipão, Vanderlei Luxemburgo and Tele Santana mainly! Those 3 were inspiration to Fernando Diniz football nowadays.
Precisa de um brasileiro veloz no seu time ? Eu aqui ❤
Diniz' game feels a lot like futsal.
Neymar, Robaldinho, Ronaldo and so many of our great players started as futsal players when young. And Diniz actually was a profissional futsal player, I believe.
nice take on this, i notice their pattern immediately
always come for pass 1-2 or knows where to do attacking run
its actually (i think) like Pep , attacking box per box (in the field) with many possible players
but yea, will be very hard to implement it because its so much different to europe playstyle
Yes! Mid way through the video I said to myself that this is pretty much how futsal is played. The great Brazilian legends started in futsal.
Not really. Diniz only played for and managed football teams, he had no relation whatsoever with futsal, though I understand the point you guys are making.
@@fabioriato Diniz does have a big connection with Futsal. He was a Futsal player before playing football professionally and actually is said to have been a better futsal player than football player.
It seems he did not play Futsal professionally, though. He went on to play football after being a very appreciated futsal player.
When I made that comment I didn't know for sure his connection with Futsal. But after that, I've seen it confirmed on ESPN Brasil's “Sonho de Menino, com Fernando Diniz” documentary film. Some articles also touch on this matter.
Pele too
It's crazy how Neymar is such a good player, instantly understanding the style (which suits him)
Actually this style doesn’t suit hem, he likes to drible and in this style he has much less space for 1v1. But he is so good that he has other quality’s to impact the game
because he played at the national league, winning everything there. most these other players left before turning 20
Diniz Fluminense has the most dribles in the league, the players aree expected to drible a lot not only in 1v1 but during progression, you often see André (the most defensive midfielder who even plays as center back sometimes) making risky dribles almost in his own area between 2 or 3 oposite players, thats actually where neymar shines more, he doesnt have the explosion he had as young to 1v1 as consistently but havin imense ball control is very important to progress in tight spaces as Diniz teams tends to play @@josiaschaveiro5057
@@josiaschaveiro5057 Neymar would shine in this style as a winger as Fluminense creates many 1v1 situations with Arias and Keno, but Brazil severely lacks a "playmaker" so he has to do it since he's also the best one at that right now.
Neymar would've loved to be born 10 years earlier.
@@josiaschaveiro5057 actually I think he likes playing one-two passes with teammates near him. And it suits him better at his age when his athleticism has gone down. He doesn't need to sprint as much to get pass the opponents when that isn't as much of an objective.
Como argentino, como amante del buen fútbol celebro que Brazil vuelva a sus raíces y a su juego vibrante y hermoso. Espero que esto sirva para regresar a la gloria al pueblo brasileño y a su fútbol.
You aren't argentinian!
Gracias, hermano!
@@melkinzedeque2775😂😂😂... he is... and he is a good one! :)
tem certeza que vc é Argentino ? parece que não !!!
fijate que lo mismo le sirvio a Argentina para ganar tanto el mundial como la copa america, volver a sus raices y jugar un futbol que se sale del estandar europeo.
I should mention Bruno Guimaraes was coached by Diniz as a youth player and it was Diniz that promoted him to the professional team in Clube Athletico Paranaense. They have a close relationship, worth looking into btw. So, if there was a single player that would know the coach's book by heart, that would be BG. For sure Diniz will have a hard time changing the mindset players like Casemiro, Rodrigo, Vini Jr, Marquinhos etc, comfortable with what made them champions in some of the worlds toughest leagues, tournaments...
At least I think the Madrid players will be more flexible because of Anccelloti's style. Already this season with the arrival of Bellingham he's having Vini and Rodrygo leave the touch lines and drift a lot more than last season.
Real Madrid players will be the easiest to adapt since they follow a similar philosophy of play under Carlo Ancelotti.
Great analysis. Here are some observations:
Bruno Guimarães's first experience as a professional player came in a small club called Audax and it was with Diniz as the coach. He had his breakout seasons later in Athletico - PR where he worked with Fernando Diniz once again. So he can most definitely be a center piece in Diniz's work with seleção and that's one of the reasons.
The players are indeed mostly from europe, where they work in a much different style of play, but in all of his career one of his characteristics has been how fast he can make teams play his signature style. So despite not having much time with the players, I think in a few games we might be seeing the squad more comfortable with his style.
And finally, the biggest question mark regarding his work is the fact that it's not supposed to last long. CBF's president has said publically that Ancelotti will be running the team at the Copa America, so this leaves everybody wondering what's the point of developing such a bold project if in one year's time we'll have a different coach with different ideas.
Loved the analysis, can't wait for the next episodes!
Although the time matters, it is the first time that Diniz gets whatever player he wants with any style he needs. Diniz is not well known as a winner in Brazil, but, we usually attribute this due the financial situation is he's team. This time, the Dinizism is going to be put in real proof.
Because CBF is lying to us, fans! Diniz will stay, if he do a good job. I hope Diniz stay!
That's the question.
Ancelotti = lie
The Brazilian team of 1982 had certain things in their favour which is radically different from their current situation and that Zico, Falco, Socrates and Eder all played their football IN Brazil. That being said Diniz and his methods of training is the absolute way forward for Brazil’s team to return to the Beautiful Game once again.
Sou torcedor do Fluminese. Ver os jogos é algo prazeroso. Diniz tenta resgatar o futebol criativo, forte e eficiente. Ele encoraja seus jogadores a acreditarem na vitória.
Neymar was having an awful game against Peru until the 90th minute when he assisted Marquinhos' goal. It's crazy how even when having a really bad game he can become decisive in an instant.
Cause the DT of Peru sold free the game to Brasil, in other case, Brasil wouldn’t win that game
It was the same against Croatia! He had so many bad decisions moments but he could score a beautiful goal towards the end!
Neymar is a genius player, definitely one of the most skilled playmakers of all time. He's made bad career choices and is out of shape now, but you can still see glimmers of his potential
@@snakeeater80 against croatia he did nothing, and Peru was using the same tactic of croatia but the DT of Peru simply Broke all of his system in the last 15 minutes and so Brasil wins, basically cause of a Big tactical error
@@caralho5237 neymar prime was in 2016
The posicional playing method is perfect for Japan and other asian contries.
Brazil needs more than anything is to be in a great psychological state. This has been lacking in recent WC eliminations.
Stay calm, relaxed and having fun in the dance of football. Nossa bagunça organizada!
for real japan would thrive in it
É mui difícil o Brasil sair dessa, só se abandonasse o evangelicalismo.
Yes
@@alvarohigino Que que tem a ver.
@@alvarohiginoAchei curioso o seu ponto. Disserte, por favor.
Modern day mobile rondo throughout the pitch. BRILLIANT! Will be easier to implement at club level vs national team when the players come together infrequently.
Sim, leva tempo. Ano passado o time dele (Fluminense) não era tão letal e vertical como em 2023.
Its natural for Brasil players
As funcional programing freak i aprove the "functional attack" name very much!
This is so exciting to see! I’m so bored watching teams try and play so similarly to one another based off of what pep is doing. Great upload! Love this channel
Seu canal é muito bom, será um prazer ver suas analises da seleção brasileira e do Diniz. Saudações do Brasil!
Excellent video! I'm a Fluminense fan, and here we call this style of play "Dinizismo, in reference to Fernando Diniz himself.
We call it that way, because in addition to being Diniz's particular style of play, it is also his philosophy of life, which goes beyond the field. His life philosophy is linked to first having good relationships between people, and from that, in his view, a team is built. It also considers solidarity, so everyone defends, creates and attacks. And he also considers it essential that players play happily and without fear of making mistakes, he generally takes responsibility for any mistake his players may make.
I hope to have contributed a little more to a deeper understanding of Dinizism.
Pra falar a verdade eu to achando esse estilo de aproximação igual o do flamengo de Jorge Jesus.
@@LucasViniciusDeALencar São diferentes. No Flamengo do JJ os jogadores se compactavam no ultimo terço do campo e faziam pressão, porém tinha mta amplitude. Já no caso do Diniz não tem amplitude alguma, ele aglomera os jogadores apenas em um lado do campo.
Imagine uma peça de dominó, a do Diniz fica deitada e a do JJ em pé. É basicamente isso.
this didnt aged well already
isso ja envelheceu mal
Because of you I knew this "weird" way of play. I watch some Fluminense match and its so refreshing and fun to see.
Neymar's rapid adaptation to Diniz's football philosophy can be attributed to his roots in futsal, which fundamentally shaped his approach to the 11-a-side game. This background has endowed him with an innate understanding of the game, particularly suitable for dynamic and skill-focused styles like Diniz's. This approach naturally favors players with an element of unpredictability and flair in their play. However, it raises the question of how this more spontaneous, skill-oriented method will fare against a disciplined, positional strategy, especially when faced with rapid counter-attacks.
I do believe that this philosophy if uphold by the Brazilian federation, will for sure bring back highly skilful and a joy to watch players.
Esse estilo potencializa nosso futebol e nossos jogadores. Temos um estilo próprio que já ganhou 5 copas do mundo.
Parabéns pela excelente análise do estilo Diniz de futebol.
Really appreciate your effort to use brazilian portuguese words to describe a few plays mate. You have perfect understanding of Diniz's play style. It's rare to see that. I think it has a lot of potential. It's usually a play style that players like and when it works it's incredibly beautiful.
Congrats, great content.
I'm a Brazil fan from Bangladesh.
Please in your 2nd part, talk about defense and off-the-ball strategy of Fernando Diniz.
Brazil conceded a ugly goal vs Bolivia thogh scored 5 goals.
When the payers stay closer instead of remaining wide, one small mistake can bring a counter attack, isn't it? Fluniese defense is not the best in Brazilio SerieA.
And, What's happened to Richarlison in Brazil squad. Richarlison is struggling in tottenham as well. But in Tite's Brazil, Richarlison was shinning.
All the players are used to play in european regular style. Can they cope up with a new style all of a sudden? Though all of them are prefessional.
As a Fluminense supporter, Bolivia's goal was a classic "Fluminense fumbling and conceding a goal" by lack of attention. It'll happen a lot before they get it together. They shoudn't give that much space to opposing players and be really quick to retrive the ball or make a foul to stop the attack. It's one of the reasons André and Nino are really high regarded by Fluminense. Bummer they weren't tested in these matches but Diniz probably already knows what they are capable of and want to impose his style to the others first. Can't wait the world to see the crazyness of taking a RB/LB and putting a winger or CF when the team is not winning against Argentina making a midfielder the new RB/LB.
About Richarlison after the World Cup, not sure if it's psychological problem. The lack of goals making a pressure that makes him play worse or something else. He does not deserve to be a starter or even called right now. I would like to see Vitor Roque or someone new for the position.
I think Brazil is literally the only team in the world who'd love the freedom of individual accountability and flair.
However I'm very curious about off the ball tactics as well. Its clear the European style don't work for Brazil.
I think in a high intensity team like this they really need a strong backline to support the attack, which Brazil just doesn't have at the moment.
Richarlison revealed that he is experiencing family problems after discovering that people close to him only wanted to take his money
Yes. His 2020-21 São Paulo team is an exemple of how bad his system can be and how easy it is to score on his defenses, losing a championship they led for almost the entire year. His whole career has been like that, he is not qualified for the job.
I like that this style is such a contrast to European Football. I feel like it's a shame that Ancelotti seems to be coming in the next year. I feel like sticking to Diniz and letting him build on this project is much more exciting.
To be fair, if there’s one current great European manager that you’d want to continue Diniz’s style and pretty much not change a working system (assuming it becomes successful for Brazil), it’s Ancelotti. He’s not obsessed with tactics.
As an East African, I always loved the way Brazil played football, especially in the late seventies and eighties.
Just take yourself back to 1982 and 86.
They entertained the whole world.
That is what football should be.
I hope Brazil come back and win a world cup like the way they used to.
Amen
I'm from Brazil, and this video is amazing. Congrats!
You could also analize Bielsa's Uruguay, I think it's a match made in heaven with all that young talent coming up. Great content as always!
Hopefully ! Uruguay could have done so much better in the last World Cup, the manager held them back so much.
Brazil and Uruguay will play next 17/10
as a Brazilian, I love the ideal of football Fernando Diniz defends, even though he's kind of underappreciated, and sometimes ridicularized (by the other teams' supporters) for not having won anything relevant for big clubs in his coaching career yet. But I must say I don't like the way his situation at the Seleção is being conducted. As an interim manager, for a year, so that Carlo Ancelotti can take the reins in 2024 to play the Copa America (most probably). If I were a player, I wouldn't be so concerned in trying to fit in the way Fernando wants the team to play, because he's not gonna be there any longer, and the one taking charge after him is very well known in the football world, and everybody knows how Carleto wants his players to behave on the pitch. I firmly believe Fernando has the potential to be the manager of the Brazilian national team, but I guess the people at CBF just pushed it way sooner than it was due
Actually, on the flipside, Diniz's tactics allows the players to play more freely with some sort of philosophy in mind. The players individualism and relation to one another is actually a good way to increase the bond and understanding between the players. I think the senior players would rather have that while waiting for Ancelotti to manage them than be bogged down by complex tactical instructions all the time. Think of it as a football holiday on the pitch.
Nah, Ancelotti's contract in Spain finishes after the Copa America, so Diniz is taking them into the competition and then relinquishing the post, supposedly... But I'm hoping the players "get" the system quickly and charm the pants off everybody. The Copa is in the US, imagine all those coaches throwing away their manuals in despair!!!
Isn’t Ancelotti kind of hands-free when it comes to organizing offensive tactics tho? maybe some of what’s diniz is teaching will stick
Both of them are good choices. Diniz is a young manager with a novel style who wants to prove himself, while Ancellotti is a seasoned winner who wants a new challenge.
Much better than Tite, who spent most of his career managing average players, repeatedly chosen to manage brazil's unique star squad simply because he's brazillian.
Diniz will stay. The call of Carlo Ancelloti was a bullshit of CBF. They are lying to brazilian fans.
And i prefer Diniz than Ancelloti.
Positional game, no more!
Could you do one about what Argentina did to win the last World Cup after all those years? I remember when I realized that they were going to be Champions: when Paredes gave two consecutive slide tackles, made a foul on the second and shot the ball on Neatherlands bench... it's a dirty way of playing, but they do stuff like that to impose themselves shaking opponents' minds, something common in the Libertadores
Greetings from Brazil!! I'm loving your videos about Diniz. I really hope it works and that us Brazilians are patient enough to let him develop his work with time.
Another fantastic video on one of my favourite topics, looking forward to you covering more! Up there with Tifo irl for one of the best right now, keep it up!
I'd appreciate if you analyse Leverkusen under Xabi Alonso! They seem to play a mixture of positional play and relationism, in a highly fluid system. Definitely interesting to me and successful as well :-)
Excellent video, I think you hit the nail on the head. Aside from Neymar and Madrid Brazilians all of the European based Brazilians are going to be hard wired into doing positional play passes (which totally goes against the whole point of their current style).
I think Brazil have huge potential if they build around Vini and Rodrygo. They're club teammates and they'll have that telepathic connection if they keep developing together.
I complained about diniz in a previous video of yours, as a life-long fluminense fan. Although there are still some aspects of his play he needs to improve, he has led us to the libertadores semi finals which will be happening next week. It's only the second time we reach this stage of the tournament in our history, and the quarter final games were quite easy for the team. I'm very hopeful Diniz can put us through to the finals with his jogo funcional.
I really liked when you used our terms. Great video and vamos Brasil!
Fernando Diniz está recuperando o que sempre foi nosso futebol...jogar bem bonito e vencedor...
Your future coverage of the Brazilian NT will be very interesting, not only for the analysis but also because of the rather... questionable, way CBF is handling the coach situation.
Since Ancelotti will supposedly take over after having Diniz for a year I can't help but wonder, if Dinizismo works wonders for the Seleção, will Ancelotti try and adapt his coaching style to this new reality, or will he simply ignore it and have the team be closer to what we have at RM, which is not completely positional but certainly not the Diniz style either?
It could work fine. Since most players play on positional style teams, having some experience with Diniz' style and then going to something that is in-between could prove very beneficent.
The influence of the 1982 Brazilian team on Diniz's proposal is clear. In this sense, I think that many people forget a characteristic common to most Brazilian players on that squad: they were ambidextrous. It seems silly, but Cruyff himself already pointed out the importance of this ability for modern football. I believe that the national team's football will improve a lot if the players focus on improving their passing with both legs, passing with the same quality whether with their left leg or with their right leg.
Small detail: Fluminense (Diniz’s team) has just won Libertadores (South America’s Champions League)
"South America's Champions League" with technical level lower than the UEFA Conference League.
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Greetings from California! Diniz is such a breath of fresh air, he created an interesting style that forces the players to move the ball forward. It is definitely daring and when it works, it works in a way that is very fun to watch.
Great to see Brazil going back to it's own brand of BRAZILIAN football!
It seems like this style is more natural. Go towards the ball and move forward. Play through the defense instead of around it. That's classic Brazil.
I´m so glad that we Brazilians take our own approach. Not anymore the European style.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO i was waiting for your video since his debut
Beautiful analysis! Looking forward to more content on this current Brazil project.
O diniz ainda esta desenvolvendo esse estilo de jogo, ele é um tecnico muito novo e ainda tem muito o que percorrer, ele ja mostrou que é capas de aprender com os erros e melhorar seu estilo de jogo, se der para ele o tempo certo tenho certeza de uqe ele vai aprimorar esse estilo e vai se tornar um grande tecnico um dia. Abraço
Dia 4 de novembro. Atualiza teu comentário . Fluminense será campeão da libertadores da América. Diniz torna-se realidade. Na seleção, torço pra que continue e dê certo.
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college.
This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture.
It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces.
The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany.
Thanks for the video my friends. A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
I love your videos on Diniz, such a refreshing and interesting way to play football. Your comprehensive analysis of this is most welcome! More please :)
*_Nosso futebol é cultura, criatividade e momentos de oscilação_* .
At 4:30 when you talk about some players instinctively passing to open space, you can see both Brazilian players closest to the ball complaining that it was passed away. I think most of the Brazilian players prefer this relational style.
At the end of the 90s, when all the best Brazilian players were in Europe, I was sad because the national team did not have players from Brazilian clubs, as was the case until the 1980s. I remember saying at that time: "this is not The Brazilian team, this is a European team of Brazilians."
Brazil in 1982 was celebrated for its stars and how they played together. Brazil in 2002 was celebrated by individual names only.
Great Vid. Europe changed all its tactics to overcome the Brazilians over the years. Now they changing so as not to become a boring European game as we have seen in recent years.
WHAT? A gringo vídeo speaking about Diniz? I am astonished. He's a very coach and is at Fluminense club doing a great work. The club is on Libertadores finish after of much time and i wait then they will win.
I was hoping to get Deniz at Spurs after Conte left, I'd love to see this style in the premier league. Can't wait to see how Brazil develop.
He can't speak English. That's a big deal to me.
@@luizarthurbrito English is not a hard language. He can study one year, and move to PL.
As a non-Brazilian I'm excited for this appointment. It is going to be a lot of fun watching a country as rich in talent as Brazil play in a way that will be so different from everyone else.
Brazil needs defenders who are more comfortable with the ball. Who can ‘pausa’ as well as give forward passes. The attackers and midfielders can hugely profit from this patterns.
I think that a viable option would be to put Nino or André from Fluminense at the beginning of the work, and after Marquinhos and Magalhães are adapted, put them back in the team.
We were waiting for Acelotti for the position but Diniz is proving to be much better than expected, maybe he can stay in the position, we hope so... Congrtz for the job! great video..
im Flamengo fan (Diniz team’s rival) but I really hope to see Diniz football philosophy thrive!! This looks like football I always knew and admired.
It looks like a variation of total football that's extreme in nature. It embodies the idea from a total football perspective thst each player can take on multiple roles. I hope Arteta my manager is watching Diniz and De Zerbi.
Total football was posisitional play players constantly rotating with each other inside one set structure this is players just moving freely as a whole
Wow! this video is amazing, as a Brazilian, I got mor info here than in most sports broadcast here in Brazil. This coming from a person who consumes a lot of sports media here. Well done mate.
I like the experiment that Brazil is doing and I hope that maybe Brazil will sign him permanently if they don't sign Ancelotti.
I really was waiting for your video. I hope you really do more analysis during Diniz time with the Seleção.
After your two last videos, I could see perfectly the Diniz's game structure, and was able to point the same mistakes you pointed in the video. Just waiting the analysis for next games as well.
Always love watching the traditional play of Brazilian football. ❤
I liked the analysis a lot. I agree that we need our own style to combat the European standardization, it's the way we won all the world cups, "sambando com a bola no pé" as they say. Dribbling, fast-paced passes and speed. That is what makes Brazil, Brazil.
Samba é meu ovo.
fluminense fan here. what diniz must improve the most is his making fast adjustments to create direct attacks when opposing teams overload pressure by making 6+ men blitzes. i think you mentioned something in this direction in your video about how circulation isn't always best on a relationist team, but there's a key game vs américa-mg that illustrate this a lot. fluminense suffered a really aggressive overloaded press all first half in this match, and in the second half diniz subbed an extra 9, played a 3 strikers formation and fluminense just beat the press via direct long passes, and it was imo some of the strongest performances by fluminense in second half. diniz needs to create more consistent direct passing routines so his team can make faster adjustments vs press cheaters. i think he's already aware of that because of his new 2-striker formation with Cano and John Kennedy that has been a success so far.
also, i would add that it's not true that diniz is a radical relationist as his team does have positional concepts, specially with the wingers keno and arias. i believe you watched the first leg vs olimpia in libertadores where diniz played a 6-man front very positional to beat a stacked bus parked in front of the area.
when i watched the past few selecao games, i couldn't help but wonder what would be neymar's career if he had a coach like diniz in his physical prime and i believe rodrygo-neymar-vini will be a terrific deathball of an attack. also, i think diniz benefits a lot from having a very versatile, mobile and switchy 8 (like alexsander), i am interested in watching lucas paquetá under diniz.
Dude, you're so precise, so analytical... it feels like you've known Diniz for a long time
Hey @ThePuristFootball, just wanted to say that I really love your videos! I've been getting into watching more football recently, and your videos are always so insightful and wonderfully informative :D Cannot wait for more stuff on Diniz's Brazil, his style goes against the grain of most European wisdom and I am so here for it!
Could you also make some videos analysing women's football? I thought that the World Cup was filled with some football of the highest quality (I was particularly blown away by how Aitana Bonmati played throughout the tournament) and it would be really cool to get some insight into the different playstyles there!
That’s what Ancelotti did last season(or similar) so him going to Brazil end of his contract is really good for the Brazil national team
Now he's in the Copa Libertadores 2023 Final as manager of Fluminense
Excellent analysis...Brazil was always a free form team, players who were out of position just knew where they had to be...I was watching old school footage and Brazil seemed to have used a 4222 which allowed them to either all be on one wing or slightly change to occupy the midfield but rheyd always have an outlet. It's so funny how from continent to continent the styles differ
As peruvian , a really love your analisis. Some annotations : The two annulled goals has peruvian work, the "kick to the free spot" was read by the final line of peruvian team. This joggo bonito, is pretty difficult to read to European team but Peru, could be the most near to the same philosphy. We don have extraordinary players but in the past we have more than a brazillian DT in our team. Lookign forward for the next game Brazil , vs Bielsa's Uruguay (will be amazing). Cheers
I absoulutly love your reading about the (sort of) brazilian subconscious, and the way the teams in brazil apply a very distinctive thinking ways compared to the european one.
ive always believed in joga bonito if diniz is trying to bring that style of play i would much proud of him encouraging the selacao playing how brazil is supposed not by me assuming all brazilians are good tho thats all
I loved your pronounciation of the portuguese words , awesome job dude!
Você falou, Diniz está cotado para comandar a seleção Brasileira e agora ele está. Parabéns pela visão.
The defence is the most important part of his strategy. The CBs need to be brave and skilled enough to carry the ball and pass it when in possession (even attacking if opportunity arises). On the other hand, the extreme counter press leaves them very exposed to counterattacks, so they need to be fully aware of their positioning to either clear the pass or use a tactical foul if needed. The WBs often play inverted as a part of the midfield as to create overloads, which is great when in possession but tricky when out of it.
Awesome video bro! This is gonna be a great series
That was a tremendous video, both in content and in visuals, thanks a lot for this!
This style of play reminds me of how Argentina performed their counter attack against Croatia in the worldcup semi-final '23. Their counter attack was very unorthodox, very narrow centrally, not using width at all, and randomly passing to each other, kind of like the example of relational play in this video. I think it was difficult for Croatia to defend against it, because the movement of Argentinian players were so unpredictable. It wasn't the whole team playing like that tho, just the front 3 (?) players.
This comment doesn’t make much sense, all quick counter attacks are just players rushing and looking for space to receive passes as quick as possible. Basically all successfull counter attacks transition will look like this or just a long and accurate pass to the most forward player. Doesn’t make sense to player run to their position and start to tiktaka for counter attack, lol
Sou torcedor do Fluminense, Fernando Diniz é um excelente treinador. Seu estilo de jogo é diferente, ele valoriza a posse de bola, e suas jogadas são trabalhadas de aproximação dos jogadores
"Joga bonito" was a Nike campaign. The correct term we Brazilians use is "futebol-arte".
4:22 You could hear Diniz through the transmission screaming "RODRYGO", it was kinda funny but yeah, some players still have to get in the rhythm of how Diniz wants them to play.
I think personally this tactic is the future of football....tactics have a circle and i think positional football has reached its full potential as did tiki taka before that or any other system excited to watch these tactics develop in the european game
I'm pretty excited to see how Paquetá fits into this team because I remember him and Neymar nailing those one-twos that just feels right in this system.
Great video! Unfortunaly, many brasilians underestimate the play style of Diniz. They call "Dininismo" (something like Dininism) to make fun, but i hope that he can build your job with the necessary time for it.
I am fascinated by this philosophy. I’m completely obsessed with it
Great football analysis, one of the best channels out there. Good stuff 👍🏻
O NEY É GENIOOO
Yes, Brazilian footballers playing in Europe practice every day positional football, because that's what their coaches want. But, the style of football Diniz is trying to make the NT play is the style of play these players learned when they started playing football, when they were 4 or 5 years old, it's the style of play they grow up with.
It's only a matter of time before the NT starts to click again and the "Jogo bonito" comes back again. I can't wait.
Great analysis!
If I’m not mistaken, Colombia also plays a version of this football. Brazil and Colombia are the teams to watch when it comes to this style of football, very exciting to watch when it works!
If you really think about it, it was bound to happen. The Brazil style is onordonthox. Now having all of them together being part of the play, it's like creating a rhythm of a song
seria muito bom ver o ganso e neymar juntos denovo, deve ser como uma saga que se fecha. tinha tudo para ter dado certo e nao deu (ainda). diniz tem 2 caras que com certeza se entendem com diniz implantando o metodo na seleçao abre muito espaço para arriscar a dupla como como algo que pode se tornar um classico
Bom demais ver a historia sendo escrita acredito que se vem um titulo seria algo muito bonito de se ver
Excelente analysis. Thank you very much.
Coaches usually dont let players take chances on the game. They are scared of errors... Diniz is so far different on that, because he understands that we are humans and we fail... so, he just accepts the errors and encourages the players to try dribbles, to experiment... because creativity is the essence of Brazilian football.
Grade analysis, this is the base of our football. Coming from the Futsal and the Várzea… remember, our pitches in favelas does not allow long passes. It is all about proximity, 1 to 1 and passing forward
As Brazilian that is the best way to play football ! Let’s not be Europeans but Brazilian way! We love the game not the robotic formation! I expect a seleção going to be more fluid !
foi legal da parte dele colocar legendas em portugues, porque as legendas automaticas sao horrives. eu como brasileiro adoro a abordagem tatica dele, no youtube brasileiro há uma escassez de canais de analise tatica, tomara que o algoritimo apresente mais videos do canal dele na comunidade de futebol no youtube brasileiro
Amazing analysis! Diniz is much criticized in Brazil because, despite the “Joga Bonito” style he has not won many titles. His way of playing the game tends to take some time for players to unserstand, let’s how’ll be.
BTW, some is really botering me, in Brasil we don`t use almost never say "joga bonito". It`s was a nike marketing campaing back in the 2000-2010. TWhen we talk about "classic" (brasil 70 oor 82) footbal we usually "futebol arte""