Ben and Darcy seem to have the same non supportive environment. But as Ben turned it into hating himself and hurting people, Darcy found her happiness in giving her friends the support, the acceptance and the love she doesn’t get at home. She deserves the best for her future!
On a lighter note, I love how Nick has spent the whole season agonising over how to come out as bisexual and Sahar just casually chucks it out there, no big deal!
Absolutely agreed! On the other hand, the stakes are a lot lower for her because 1) Being bisexual as a woman is not as shocking/taboo as it is for a man (double standard) 2) She’s not one of the most popular kids in school with 800+ followers on Instagram and a selection of people who scrutinize her every action 3) She doesn’t have a partner yet to experience what it’s like in real life to cope with everyone’s relentless interest and judgment. It’s still theoretical for her, and she gets to control who knows because she gets to control what she says and to whom. There’s not yet a separate person to add uncertainty into the ability to control the information. Maybe we’ll see in Season 3 what things end up being like for her. If so, I trust Alice will be nuanced and careful with a depiction that will celebrate her embracing her identity without glossing over the differences between her experiences versus Nick’s. I don’t mean to say that she will automatically have an easier time with things because she’s a girl who isn’t at the top of secondary school society, but I think she doesn’t have the same perception of the stakes involved and the potential downside that Nick had. I am glad that Alice included another bisexual to provide another character to help portray the diverse experiences of people in the queer community.
@@elisabethbauman6190 I love your really thoughtful reading of it all! I also think in general that she's just a naturally more confident person than Nick. Nick seems quite insecure about his whole identity outside rugby, which, as you say, raises the social stakes for him. Sahar has been chosen to organise Prom, I'd guess she's already known for being a bit outgoing because you are not going to give that job to a wallflower. She has absolutely no qualms going up to Tara, Elle and Darcy and asking for their help (compared with Nick's shyness in asking Charlie to join the rugby team - but maybe it's just that he already fancies him). She also knows that she's coming out to a very queer-friendly group, which has got to drop the stakes a bit. I like that we get to see a really easy, low stakes coming out too - I don't blame Nick for it being so hard for him and I'm sure that Sahar will have faced her difficult moments. But I agree, I'd love to get to know more about Sahar's story next season.
I feel like it's very different, though. From personal experience, nobody really cares if you're bisexual unless you're actually dating someone of the same gender, then it becomes a big deal. Nick's trying to tell people that he IS dating a guy, Sahar can say that she COULD date a girl, but also a guy.
Two tiny things I love with Charlie's parents. When Charlie says he's not good at rugby, mom wants to object. I think it shows that they are more engaged with his life than we see. And when Nick leaves rhe table, dad gives Charlie a little nod, telling him to go check on Nick.
I think mom gets too much grief from the fandom. She may not understand her children, but she accepts and loves them. She tries, even if she doesn't always get it right.
I love that little nod from Julio. One of the roles of a parent is to teach your children how to be a good partner. You model it for your own children AND you give them advice.
James is by far my new favorite character. Bradley is a doll, and the character of James is another one that needs to be protected at all costs. I hope he comes back for season 3.
quite rightly during the Ben and Charlie scene you focused on Charlie, but when you have a moment go back and rewatch it but this time watch Ben's face and you get to see how good an actor Bash is ... when Charlie mentions the first kiss, initially Ben smiles - to him it was a happy and pleasant experience ... then as Charlie makes it clear how he felt, Ben's face drops and the look of horror replaces the smile ... all very subtle, and easily missed because of what Charlie is saying ... it took me several watches to notice.
I noticed it right away. after that scene when Charlie initially tells Ben off after the race in the finale of Season 1, I didn’t notice Ben’s single tear at first until another commenter under a reaction video pointed it out. but after that, I could never unsee it. because of that scene, I made it a point to pay close attention to Bash’s facial acting and let me tell you, I’m so glad I did because his acting this season has been off the charts amazing.
Already in season 1, Ben keeps a close eye on Charlie. In the cinema scene, where Ben looks down on Nick and Charlie, who are holding hands - there he sits with a sly smile, a bit discreet.
Don't ever be sorry for crying. This just shows how important this is to you and how much of a caring person you are ❤ Nick, Charlie and Tori absolutely rocked this episode. Love the importance of this episode. The next episode had me in tears. So many important conversations. P.S look out for an awesome little detail in the hugging scene in the bedroom next episode 🙂❤️
And Jackie-Ross crying gives me permission to have the feelz all over again. Each and every time I watch an episode, and that's nearly EVERY SINGLE NIGHT BEFORE BED, I cry a little, or a lot, or have a tight feeling in my chest or throat or my heart wants to flow out of me because it is about 3 sizes bigger. My friends and husband are sorta sick of me relating just about everything in life to Heartstopper.. I simply do not care. Thank you, Nick. Thank you Alice! And the entire extended Oseman-verse of characters, situations and the people who bring them to LIFE. And the music. Sigh. And the colors. All the rainbow colors!
Confession time: The hardest I've cried this season was when Ben walked away from the rainbow wave. I 100% agree with everything Charlie said and I'll never excuse or forgive Ben. But seeing how parents, society and the world in general can make a guy hate and deny himself so profundly, it broke me. Ben is a horrible person but he's been molded this way and that's a tragedy. I cried for him and all the other queers who are being pushed in that direction because they're not accepted and supported. So much unhappiness, hurt and hate is created, still to this day, because of intolerance and ignorance.
Ben is Darcy's foil this season. We see someone whose family does not support them, in Darcy's case definitely emotionally abuses them, in Ben's case that's unclear, one of them decides to lash out, to hurt others, to abuse others, to gaslight, to SA, so many terrible terrible things, and the other decides to support her girlfriend extra hard. Ben's background does not explain his behaviour. It explains his internal struggles, but it did not make him SA Charlie, or gaslight and abuse him. That was all him. And while I understand that people are shaped by their circumstances, I feel like it's used as an out, an excuse to avoid responsibility for the things that they did. Ben didn't even really apologise, because he didn't even realise (or didn't want to face) what it is that he did and why it is so horrible what he did, so he took zero ownership of his actions, and his apology was mostly him justifying himself.
@@AnnekeOosterink Thank you so much for this comment. It's a light in the dark. This comments section is honestly devastating to me, having to see comment after comment after comment with so much hyper-empathy for an abuser and not one person cares to write a similar paragraph empathizing with the survivor. They say "I'm not making excuses" and then make excuses after excuse. It's such a mirror of real life.
Jackie, your reactions are wonderful. I am a 75-year-old aro-ace. It has been an exhausting lifetime of dodging and weaving through societal norms. However, watching Isaac’s journey with you has been a gift.
As a parent of an LGBTQ child, yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't understand any parent who could ever reject their child. If you're not ready to have a child who isn't cishet, then you might want to rethink being a parent.
Isaac made me cry several times this season. I'm also Ace and I just feel for him especially when he's around all these couples. Its hard especially when everyone around you is in a relationship.
First of all, I want to give a big hug for surviving this episode. Also, thanks for the raw honesty. Learned a lot of about you. Shed the tears. We'll be here for you with much love. Can't wait for final episode and your reactions.
This reaction made me want to hug you so much! This is why we need shows like Heartstopper, beyond the story and the representation it's catharsis and support and love. 💞💞💞
Get emotional!!!! It's beautiful to let your feelings out and cry. "A heart is a fragile thing, that's why we protect them so vigorously, give them away so rarely, and while it means so much when we do... some hearts are more fragile than others, purer somehow... like crystal in a world of glass, even the way they shatter is beautiful." Your heart is one of those. Even when it's shattering, it's beautiful. So thank you for letting us share in your emotions.
What I love so much is that while this season deals with a lot more mental health issues and the subjects are a bit darker than season one, it deals with it so lightly while still doing everything justice and I think that’s beautiful. I don’t really know how to describe it, but sometimes when series deal with stuff like this it can make you feel quite miserable because the atmosphere is so heavy. Heartstopper is so much more comforting because it’s like “yes, shit happens and it sucks, but you’re going to be okay” and I can’t describe how much that means to me. I’m in awe.
The Ben and Charlie confrontation fully broke me... I had an ex who was physically and emotionally abusive and he made me feel exactly how Ben made Charlie feel.. even now 9 years into my current relationship, it still effects me and I wish I had been given a moment like Charlie had, to stand up and tell my ex just how much of a piece of shit he was!
Two point the first is Charlie 's dad got him to go after nick it's subtle but shows they are one nicks side. The second casting Rachel stirling as Darcy's mum is v interesting especially as her first big part was the lead in tipping the velvet! Expect more of her next season.
As someone who is arospec and ace, the scene at the exhibition had me sobbing. It meant so much to me seeing this experience shown so beautifully on screen, and seeing Isaac find that relief made me so happy
I’m just catching up with your reactions and there’s two moments that I have to point out because what you said was so true 1. With Ben, I’ve seen so many people make excuses for him, and even some people blaming Charlie which is ridiculous. Yes it’s sad his parents wouldn’t accept him and he can’t accept himself but like you said, that’s no excuse. He manipulated Charlie and sexually assaulted him. Being closeted doesn’t excuse that type of behaviour. Nick didn’t do that when he was in the closet and Darcy hasn’t either. Darcy actually used her experience to help her girlfriend with her coming out. And Charlie doesn’t owe Ben forgiveness, no victim ever does. 2. I relate a lot to your family life. I do love my family and I know they care for me but they were never invested in me in ways I wish they were. I had to grow up quickly because of that. I also don’t know my own dad and is definitely something that has played on my mind but seeing Nick’s story and knowing people in my life who have bad relationships with their own dads does make it easier to not feel too bad about it. Sorry this was a long rant but you have some of the best reactions to this show and I’m glad to see someone show so much understanding to the complexities of these stories without making excuses for certain characters behaviours!
I was waiting for your to get to episode 7. There is a Lot that isn't in the books and it's all SO IMPORTANT. This show is so powerful, so glad it exists.
Ben absolutely breaks my heart. To be so unbelievably shattered through self hatred because of the pressures put onto you through family is so relatable. He is a complete asshole, but I can only imagine how immensely fractured person like that can be. Unfortunately, that pain will roll over anyone who’s near.
I'm so happy I found your channel. Watching you experience this beautiful season is making me feel like I'm watching it for the first time all over again. ♥
dammit Jackie, here you go making me cry again! 😭 your reaction to Isaac discovering his aro/ace identity did something to me that upon first watch on my own, I didn’t experience: chills and tears streaming down my face! I love your reactions so much! thank you for sharing them and your emotions with us ❤
I cry thru most episodes of Heartstopper, and then I cry along with your reactions! Even though season two is darker, it does make me so happy. Like you said it’s a safe space and I feel like for every dark scene, Alice gives the characters the tools to cope and shows the audience how to speak up for themselves, how to support themselves and their friends and most of all, how to communicate. So often, I feel like the characters are speaking to the audience, especially the young audience and teaching really valuable skills.
This has been my favorite review from you so far. Thank you for sharing some of your personal life experiences. It sounds like you’ve gone through so much and I honestly wanted to reach through the screen and give you a hug 😢. Everyone’s experience is different and although our story’s are Cingular, our destiny is shared because as part of the lgbtq+ community, we all should want each others happiness. The happier and more successful each one of us is, the stronger our community gets. Love you Jackie and get your tissues ready for the last episode because it’s epic.
I love your reactions. I also get very emotional watching this show but I find myself watching it multiple times. I am so happy a show like this exists now. It truly means so much.
That scene Issac has with the art student about being ACE perfectly summed how I felt/feel. When I realized that I might or I am ace it was so f*cking freeing. At 38 to know that I wasn't a failure in love. That the one serious relationship I had wasn't a waste because I couldn't love him the way he loved me. A huge huge huge weight was lifted. I cry every time I watch that scene. I truly thought I was broken and it took decades to realize I wasn't. This is why someone like Issac is important. Why, shows like Good Omens 2, our flag means death, owl house are important because they show relationships within the asexuality community as valid and just as important. Even the webseries Hulluv a boss has a good representation of asexuality. Young people/older people need to see themselves represented.
@@JackieRossLavenderYes, in Our Flag Means Death Blackbeard is Asexual ACE( he wears the ace flag colors) . Good Omens 2 Neil Gaman and the other creators have said that this season Azaraphale and Crowley are in an ACE relationship( that is what I read). I can not remember in Owl House. Helluv a boss might be a stretch I think the two main love interests are really Pan and not Asexual but the creator Brandon Roger's has talked a out Asexuality in the show. I know one of those is a cartoon geared towards children but Owl House is so great for having queer representation especially for a Disney show.
your videos mean so much to me!🥺 you express emotion so beautifully & are so well spoken 💛 I adore heartstopper (& Alice Oseman) and it’s so lovely to see how much you appreciate it.
As someone who was also SA'd as a kid, Charlie's confrontation to Ben also hit me really hard and it's taken weeks for me to figure out why. But now I know that's why. That's the voice I've had in my head since I was little (3-9yo) telling me everything awful is what I deserved and everything good I wasn't worthy of. It's really hard to face. But it's so important to face it. Little me deserves big me to love her through it and tell her she's worthy.
God, I know exactly what you mean. And yes, we’re all worthy! We just need to keep repeating it, like with Tara’s advice to Darcy in Ep 8 - “practice makes perfect.”
This episode was the one that broke me in every way possible. The stuff Charlie says to Ben led me on a wave of emotions that I had suppressed on me for so long that I just sobbed my way through it. And Darcy's situation at her home with her mom... honestly hit too close to home. I can't put into words what it all meant to me.
crying is very therapeutic - if you feel like crying, then cry. you have all of our support (and most of us probably cried with you!) also what you said about, if you aren't going to love and support your children through anything and everything then just don't have kids. YES. this. love your reactions, they are so raw and real and insightful. keep doing what you're doing! ❤
I came out as Ace to my friends last year, and that was easy, but telling my parents was pretty scary. I've been so lucky with my friends, and they've been so supportive. Seeing Isac's journey here is not only inspiring, but it also gives me hope for future Ace and Aro kids, seeing that and feeling safe and represented.
I absolutely LOVE Tao's mom. Tao grew so much just since episode 3. Paris was great for him! I love Darcy but she really has to learn some boundaries, like her saying they're going to kiss and trying to set up Elle and Tao. Don't worry, Ben's gone. I thought it was a great scene and I'm glad Charlie laid it all out there about how much Ben hurt him. Maybe that can start him down a better path. And I do believe people like Ben can change. But their victims do not owe them anything. So it's good that Charlie doesn't forgive him. It's also not what Ben needs. Ben needs to face what he did if he's to ever truly change, since this 'apology' was still just selfish excuses. Great video! Love all the raw reactions.
Vent away chick. This is obviously bringing up a lot of stuff for you. Think it's amazing that you feel comfortable enough to tell us things about your life. Loved your reaction.
This was such an important episode. The book Isaac is holding when he’s at the art show is also super important. It’s called “we have always been here, a queer Muslim memoir” by samra habib. So there was so much representation packed into just a few minutes.
I have two sons with severe autism. I would give anything, do anything, for them to have the communication skills, self-awareness, and understanding of relationships necessary for them to tell me they are gay. Parents who don't accept their kids are throwing away the greatest gift there is.
Elle's"Safe Space" is BOTH her 3 guys AND the Art Room [and probably by extension Mr. Ajiai since she was there "every lunch for months to paint her watercolor landscape picture we see in Boyfriend (1:8) AND, of course, ART since in the most meta sense of all, that's what this is, ART. And remember, Nick's comment on the stairs. You don't have to understand it, you can just feel it." But, this is her BOTH understanding it AND feeling it. Dinner scene: notice the tiny nod Charlie's Dad gives him to follow after Nick. Just like Nick's little nod to Charllie to go after Imogen after the Ben breakup. And Charlie's Mum gets a redemption moment as they're leaving, both "We are very accustomed to Drama at our house!" and "He's a very nice boy when he's not distracting you from her coursework." She's trying. And the Coming Out Dinner is at the end of Vol 4. It comes AFTER Charlie's getting better. So, moving it earlier, emphasizes the oncoming Eating Disorder main theme in S3. And yet, we just know that the rest of the Paris Posse will be there for each other, there for Nick especially, and there for Charlie remotely. And, we also know, that that camaraderie will bring each and every relationship closer. Perhaps even Isaac and James. Maybe even Imogen and Sahar or HARRY or BOTH! Poly is a thing too! And Harry deserves a storyline after "You don't need to call her a bitch.", "You've got your own problems.", "Something to be proud of, getting some action.", and even trying to apologize [even if it was perhaps in the moment more of an means to an end] and a "rich boy" really ought to make friends that don't just like him for his money before he HAS a lot of money because you can't really trust anyone after you do or it is super hard to anyway. And Isaac had a little piece in that change [it's just before the Eiffel Tower scene, on the lawn. So Nick told him off then fought him. Charlie told him off, twice [GCSC after party/Tara's Party]. Sai, Christian and Otis aren't "friends with him anymore". Tara told him off. He's gotten expelled for fighting a younger student on school grounds [which didn't last very long, but still, must have shocked him] and I'm sure his parents didn't buy him the "right color Lamborghini" for his 16th birthday, though the cost of the party would have made a very nice down payment on it! And he REALLY, REALLY, REALLY wants a relationship with SOMEONE. He was literally "jealous" of Nick's attention to Charlie. He's protective of Imogen, and they truly would make "such a cute couple".Heck, if he played his cards right, he could be in a true throuple since Sahar is bi! It would be soooooooooooooo interesting if Imogen can't be the token ally anymore because she's not in a monogamous hetero-normative relationship! I Can't. Wait! I want it NOW, Daddy! I want Season Three NOW!
It is interesting that as he leaves, Stephane hugs David but taps Nick on the shoulder. My dad and I were estranged, and he still lived at home. I always told classmates in high school he was dead. When he died, I felt nothing when I was told. At the funeral, I felt nothing. 26 years later I don't mention him. My dad always called me stupid, a sissy, and fat. He used my weight to tell me that was why nobody wanted to be with me.
I’m sorry you went through that, but it sounds like you were able to free yourself from his toxicity by cutting him out of your life. That’s both brave and necessary.
I thought this, too, initially, but there’s no way she could have completed it, submitted it, and have it chosen for the showcase on that timeline. They return to England on July 4, and the flyer says that the showcase is on July 7.
@@elisabethbauman6190 I didn't say she based it on that painting "in-story," but the production team clearly based it on that painting. However, if you do want an in-story explanation, this works: "It's a famous painting. It was already a favorite of hers. She wanted to see the real thing in Paris, because she was already familiar with it and had started the painting based on it before the Paris trip."
Season 2 was absolutely amazing. Sometimes with shows as it goes on, it lags in certain areas but I feel with Heartstopper it just gets better and better, IMO. Huge kudos to the entire cast this season.
I've found your channel quit recently and I've got to say that I am obsessed with your reaction videos. I'm sorry I can't support you over on patron, but I try like every single video and see every single one till the end.
As someone who realized they were ace ten years ago when there was virtually no representation anywhere, It's so heartwarming to see everyone's reactions to Isaac's aro ace storyline. People have been so empathetic and supportive it's honestly amazing; little 20 year old me would have never thought we would get this far. Now I need to go back and watch your reaction to Loveless!!
I love that HS shows positive reactions to people coming out, but it was realistic to show Ben's experience. He shows that for many people, there isn't a supportive network. Charlie was honest with him, and he needed to hear it.
I had a Ben when I was 13 and he did way worse things to me than Ben did, and I'll leave it at that... I actually recently got a message from him last November trying to connect but I pretty much wrote what Charlie said to him. I said I hope he's a better person now but he will not receive my forgiveness and I do not want him to be part of my life ever again. so yeah... that scene broke me T_T
About the point you said of dads giving hugs to queer sons, I understand a bit the behaviour of Nick's dad, as a lot of heterosexual men, maybe not in the younger generations, but before, they don't really understand the queer world, so that is why I don't blame Nick's dad as he also says that he does not really understand about being gay or queer. It is generational. My dad is the same. He accepts me but I see that he does not really understand what is being gay. He told me once that he thought being gay is like being a drag queen. I hope heterosexual men will be more open- minded in the future about it.
Darcy hits a little too close to home.. I'm 14, and came out to my parents as bi about 3 years ago. If I wear anything not super feminine, my dad gets mad. I've always wanted to wear a suit when I go to prom in the future, but my dad would probably kick my out like Darcy's mom, and burn/destroy the suit.
The obsession with young kids being in relationships all goes back to a very old fashioned attitude, that every boy should have a girlfriend. I grew up in the 1990s, I remember when I was 7 in 1992, we had a birthday party, and one of my school friends kept asking me if I was going out with a girl in my class - yes, that happened even in 1992 and at 7 years old. If you watch kids shows of that time, they are always asked if they have a girlfriend/boyfriend. It is an old style attitude which has sadly not gone.
I'm still trying to figure out my own asexual identity and I really felt a lot watching Isaac's storyline, but you are the first openly ace person I've watched react to this (tbh I don't have a lot of ace creators that I know of at all) and seeing it resonate with you made me feel seen on a whole different level. It's one thing to see a character go through the same things you do but it hit me completely different watching you, a real person who has experienced these feelings, validate them. I've struggled a lot for a couple years now (when the idea that I might be ace was first brought up to me) to figure out what I feel and how I identify myself. But in just these videos you have helped me feel so much surer and more validated than almost anything else has in that time, so thank you for sharing your experience and I hope you know that your videos are helping people feel so much less alone.
Hi again - for me what you said about dads is so true - I lost my dad in 1995 when I was 10, he died from lung cancer. I always wondered what he would have made of my sexuality, being gay? He was a country man, born in County Antrim, Northern Ireland, and from what family told me for a country man, he was very liberal in his views, far more than my mum, who remains very conservative to this day, which is why we clash all the time. We are just polar opposites. I was a daddy's boy growing up, for those 10 years I had him in my life, we were very close. I always feel he would have been the biggest supporter of LGBTQ+ people, which would have surprised many.
Heartstopper is really playing with our feelings… i think in season one it was mostly on the positive side, where many “couples to be” started flirting and enjoyed all the “butterflies”… Now in season 2, we see a lot of struggles - which with true love - can be dealt with and love wins in the end ❤ @jackie I have just watched ep8 again - and i am sure you are going to love the rollercoaster of feelings, that rounds up the episode (and season) But a biiiig hint - have your supplies of tissues to the max - you wil be run over of lovely feelings ❤️🥰👨🏼🤝👨🏻
i already left a similar comment on ur patreon about a year ago but im just rewatching these reactions again and isaacs storyline as well as u talking about how broken u felt, just desperately trying to figure out an answer for why you're not like everyone else around you before you discovered you're asexual just hit me so hard i couldn't help but comment on it again. this is almost a year now of me finally committing to a label of demisexual after Years of just being so so confused about myself, and it was in no small part due to you and your story resonating so deeply with me. thank you again for your openness and also such wonderful reactions that are just getting me so giddy for season 3, very excited to watch it and ur reactions :)
🌈💕✨🥰 My mother was-at times-similar to Darcy’s mother when she’d have angry fits like that; and my father could be very much like Nick’s, having little or no interest in my life or who I was.
It always irks me a little to see how Stephane hugs David, but just taps Nick on the shoulder. Also, the scene between Tori and David always reminds me how in "This Winter" Tori tells Nick, "Your loser brother hit on me again."
You and tori are definitely twins. Hoping you are keeping up with the web comics. Im a patreon of alices and there is so much more tori detail coming you will love ❤️
Watching Ben trying to say "SORRY" for being the way he is, was heart wrenching. He is broken and my fear for him when he stepped back from the rainbow was that he might harm himself as so many LGBTQ youth do. He literally has no one to turn to. Don't get me wrong.... I do love that Charlie stood up for himself and expressed the damage that Ben had done to him. This has been a powerful episode for sure. Also, Elle's "SAFE PLACE" is also Charlie's safe place..... Mr Ajayi's Art Room.... very powerful on how one teacher can make such a huge difference. (The one teacher we had in the late 1960's that everyone felt safe with, was fired for being gay. It was a brutal day)
I have to say THANK YOU for being so transparent, so honest with your feelings and personal story, and so willing to be vulnerable about it all. I am OBSESSED with this show, and how beautifully it shows the full range of LGBTQ experience, and beyond that, just the experience of being a teenager. I cried SO MANY TIMES during the course of the season, sometimes from happiness, and sometimes just from seeing such honest depictions of the struggles adolescents go through. And I have to say I am SO impressed by how beautiful and perfect every aspect of this show is - from the writing, to the acting, to the directing, just all of it. One example - Ben is really such a totally loathsome and reprehensible character, but the way it's written, directed, and particularly ACTED by the beautiful Sebastian Croft, makes me actually feel something for him, in spite of how much I loathe him. That kind of depth and complexity is so rare in television, and this show really brings it in spades.
Question for the Brits: does “I don’t care” (as Nick says at dinner) have a deeper more impactful meaning than it might over in North America? Like… Is powerful but it seems like it lands harder over in England…
I wouldn't say so. I think it's pretty powerful either way. Nick is simply saying that his father's opinion of him doesn't matter at all to him. That's a pretty brave thing to recognize as a teenager towards your parent.
Ben and Darcy seem to have the same non supportive environment. But as Ben turned it into hating himself and hurting people, Darcy found her happiness in giving her friends the support, the acceptance and the love she doesn’t get at home.
She deserves the best for her future!
Yesss this is so true, and I am soo glad that Darcy had found her happiness and making sure everyone else she loves is happy❤🥲
On a lighter note, I love how Nick has spent the whole season agonising over how to come out as bisexual and Sahar just casually chucks it out there, no big deal!
Absolutely agreed!
On the other hand, the stakes are a lot lower for her because
1) Being bisexual as a woman is not as shocking/taboo as it is for a man (double standard)
2) She’s not one of the most popular kids in school with 800+ followers on Instagram and a selection of people who scrutinize her every action
3) She doesn’t have a partner yet to experience what it’s like in real life to cope with everyone’s relentless interest and judgment. It’s still theoretical for her, and she gets to control who knows because she gets to control what she says and to whom. There’s not yet a separate person to add uncertainty into the ability to control the information.
Maybe we’ll see in Season 3 what things end up being like for her. If so, I trust Alice will be nuanced and careful with a depiction that will celebrate her embracing her identity without glossing over the differences between her experiences versus Nick’s. I don’t mean to say that she will automatically have an easier time with things because she’s a girl who isn’t at the top of secondary school society, but I think she doesn’t have the same perception of the stakes involved and the potential downside that Nick had.
I am glad that Alice included another bisexual to provide another character to help portray the diverse experiences of people in the queer community.
@@elisabethbauman6190 I love your really thoughtful reading of it all! I also think in general that she's just a naturally more confident person than Nick. Nick seems quite insecure about his whole identity outside rugby, which, as you say, raises the social stakes for him. Sahar has been chosen to organise Prom, I'd guess she's already known for being a bit outgoing because you are not going to give that job to a wallflower. She has absolutely no qualms going up to Tara, Elle and Darcy and asking for their help (compared with Nick's shyness in asking Charlie to join the rugby team - but maybe it's just that he already fancies him). She also knows that she's coming out to a very queer-friendly group, which has got to drop the stakes a bit. I like that we get to see a really easy, low stakes coming out too - I don't blame Nick for it being so hard for him and I'm sure that Sahar will have faced her difficult moments. But I agree, I'd love to get to know more about Sahar's story next season.
I feel like it's very different, though. From personal experience, nobody really cares if you're bisexual unless you're actually dating someone of the same gender, then it becomes a big deal. Nick's trying to tell people that he IS dating a guy, Sahar can say that she COULD date a girl, but also a guy.
Two tiny things I love with Charlie's parents. When Charlie says he's not good at rugby, mom wants to object. I think it shows that they are more engaged with his life than we see. And when Nick leaves rhe table, dad gives Charlie a little nod, telling him to go check on Nick.
charlie’s dad is just lovely. he was equally lovely in season 1!
I think mom gets too much grief from the fandom. She may not understand her children, but she accepts and loves them. She tries, even if she doesn't always get it right.
I love that little nod from Julio. One of the roles of a parent is to teach your children how to be a good partner. You model it for your own children AND you give them advice.
Absofrickinlutely!
That “little voice in the back” of Charlie’s head…. Nick heard that.
James is by far my new favorite character. Bradley is a doll, and the character of James is another one that needs to be protected at all costs. I hope he comes back for season 3.
I hope for him and Isaac to become close friends
quite rightly during the Ben and Charlie scene you focused on Charlie, but when you have a moment go back and rewatch it but this time watch Ben's face and you get to see how good an actor Bash is ... when Charlie mentions the first kiss, initially Ben smiles - to him it was a happy and pleasant experience ... then as Charlie makes it clear how he felt, Ben's face drops and the look of horror replaces the smile ... all very subtle, and easily missed because of what Charlie is saying ... it took me several watches to notice.
I noticed it right away. after that scene when Charlie initially tells Ben off after the race in the finale of Season 1, I didn’t notice Ben’s single tear at first until another commenter under a reaction video pointed it out. but after that, I could never unsee it. because of that scene, I made it a point to pay close attention to Bash’s facial acting and let me tell you, I’m so glad I did because his acting this season has been off the charts amazing.
Already in season 1, Ben keeps a close eye on Charlie. In the cinema scene, where Ben looks down on Nick and Charlie, who are holding hands - there he sits with a sly smile, a bit discreet.
@@andersboyschauhansen8989 yes! this too!
I clocked it right away and it broke my heart. Ben is just such a tragic character..
Yes, that brief, peaceful subtle smile by Ben is priceless.
Don't ever be sorry for crying. This just shows how important this is to you and how much of a caring person you are ❤ Nick, Charlie and Tori absolutely rocked this episode. Love the importance of this episode.
The next episode had me in tears. So many important conversations.
P.S look out for an awesome little detail in the hugging scene in the bedroom next episode 🙂❤️
And Jackie-Ross crying gives me permission to have the feelz all over again. Each and every time I watch an episode, and that's nearly EVERY SINGLE NIGHT BEFORE BED, I cry a little, or a lot, or have a tight feeling in my chest or throat or my heart wants to flow out of me because it is about 3 sizes bigger. My friends and husband are sorta sick of me relating just about everything in life to Heartstopper.. I simply do not care. Thank you, Nick. Thank you Alice! And the entire extended Oseman-verse of characters, situations and the people who bring them to LIFE. And the music. Sigh. And the colors. All the rainbow colors!
@@ben-andyhein7497 I can completely relate to this ❤️
Confession time: The hardest I've cried this season was when Ben walked away from the rainbow wave. I 100% agree with everything Charlie said and I'll never excuse or forgive Ben. But seeing how parents, society and the world in general can make a guy hate and deny himself so profundly, it broke me. Ben is a horrible person but he's been molded this way and that's a tragedy. I cried for him and all the other queers who are being pushed in that direction because they're not accepted and supported. So much unhappiness, hurt and hate is created, still to this day, because of intolerance and ignorance.
You worded this SO perfectly. Captured my thoughts exactly. Ben is SUCH a tragic character. It’s really sad.
Ben is Darcy's foil this season. We see someone whose family does not support them, in Darcy's case definitely emotionally abuses them, in Ben's case that's unclear, one of them decides to lash out, to hurt others, to abuse others, to gaslight, to SA, so many terrible terrible things, and the other decides to support her girlfriend extra hard.
Ben's background does not explain his behaviour. It explains his internal struggles, but it did not make him SA Charlie, or gaslight and abuse him. That was all him.
And while I understand that people are shaped by their circumstances, I feel like it's used as an out, an excuse to avoid responsibility for the things that they did.
Ben didn't even really apologise, because he didn't even realise (or didn't want to face) what it is that he did and why it is so horrible what he did, so he took zero ownership of his actions, and his apology was mostly him justifying himself.
@@AnnekeOosterink Thank you so much for this comment. It's a light in the dark. This comments section is honestly devastating to me, having to see comment after comment after comment with so much hyper-empathy for an abuser and not one person cares to write a similar paragraph empathizing with the survivor. They say "I'm not making excuses" and then make excuses after excuse. It's such a mirror of real life.
Jackie, your reactions are wonderful. I am a 75-year-old aro-ace. It has been an exhausting lifetime of dodging and weaving through societal norms. However, watching Isaac’s journey with you has been a gift.
I think the episode title is Alice's apology to us for breaking us all with this episode.
What you said about Elle's speech and how it can also be related to us as an audience watching this show and honestly t h i s👏 so true!
Fantastic reaction bud can't wait to film our collab reaction to bad buddy 😄
Starting to get very excited for this!
yasssssss the collab we've all wanted! ❤
19:21 supportive straight friend comes full circle
As a parent of an LGBTQ child, yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't understand any parent who could ever reject their child. If you're not ready to have a child who isn't cishet, then you might want to rethink being a parent.
Such people don't rethink being parents. They have kids because everyone else does, without even thinking what they must do as a parent.
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for caring about Charlie. I deeply appreciate people like you who remember to centre and care about survivors.
Isaac made me cry several times this season. I'm also Ace and I just feel for him especially when he's around all these couples. Its hard especially when everyone around you is in a relationship.
First of all, I want to give a big hug for surviving this episode. Also, thanks for the raw honesty. Learned a lot of about you. Shed the tears. We'll be here for you with much love. Can't wait for final episode and your reactions.
Tobie's acting in episodes 6 and 7 has been off the chart he sould get an award
5:51 is High Street, Chesham
This reaction made me want to hug you so much! This is why we need shows like Heartstopper, beyond the story and the representation it's catharsis and support and love. 💞💞💞
I love your reactions. You’re not afraid of crying and letting the emotions out. I think I cried every episode this season 😂
the standing ovation for Tori is so real
i seriously admire you and you are the best at showing you emotions on your sleeves,,,you are an inspiration...
I really like seeing more of the parents this season! Tao's and Nick's mums are the best, and Tara's mum and Charlie's dad are good too.
Get emotional!!!! It's beautiful to let your feelings out and cry. "A heart is a fragile thing, that's why we protect them so vigorously, give them away so rarely, and while it means so much when we do... some hearts are more fragile than others, purer somehow... like crystal in a world of glass, even the way they shatter is beautiful." Your heart is one of those. Even when it's shattering, it's beautiful. So thank you for letting us share in your emotions.
joe is INCREDIBLE
From Texas, good review. Insightful observations.
I still cry for Darcy every time I see that scene.
What I love so much is that while this season deals with a lot more mental health issues and the subjects are a bit darker than season one, it deals with it so lightly while still doing everything justice and I think that’s beautiful. I don’t really know how to describe it, but sometimes when series deal with stuff like this it can make you feel quite miserable because the atmosphere is so heavy. Heartstopper is so much more comforting because it’s like “yes, shit happens and it sucks, but you’re going to be okay” and I can’t describe how much that means to me. I’m in awe.
Slightly off topic, but amazed to see the group walking down my local high street (with clock tower) when Isaac met James
and which high street is that??
@@JackieRossLavender Chesham in Buckinghamshire. (And the exterior shots of the cinema where Tao met Elle in Episode 3 is in nearby Gerrards Cross)
The Ben and Charlie confrontation fully broke me... I had an ex who was physically and emotionally abusive and he made me feel exactly how Ben made Charlie feel.. even now 9 years into my current relationship, it still effects me and I wish I had been given a moment like Charlie had, to stand up and tell my ex just how much of a piece of shit he was!
16:09 I love the symbolism in the rainbow wave. So well done!
Two point the first is Charlie 's dad got him to go after nick it's subtle but shows they are one nicks side. The second casting Rachel stirling as Darcy's mum is v interesting especially as her first big part was the lead in tipping the velvet! Expect more of her next season.
I was crying from ep6 to ep8😂😂😂
So beautiful So brave they are
Same. Just want to give them all hugs!
This is honestly my favourite episode of the new season
I think that's true for me too, except for Baby Queen singing The Cure at the Prom and bawling my eyes out at the end
As someone who is arospec and ace, the scene at the exhibition had me sobbing. It meant so much to me seeing this experience shown so beautifully on screen, and seeing Isaac find that relief made me so happy
I’m just catching up with your reactions and there’s two moments that I have to point out because what you said was so true
1. With Ben, I’ve seen so many people make excuses for him, and even some people blaming Charlie which is ridiculous. Yes it’s sad his parents wouldn’t accept him and he can’t accept himself but like you said, that’s no excuse. He manipulated Charlie and sexually assaulted him. Being closeted doesn’t excuse that type of behaviour. Nick didn’t do that when he was in the closet and Darcy hasn’t either. Darcy actually used her experience to help her girlfriend with her coming out. And Charlie doesn’t owe Ben forgiveness, no victim ever does.
2. I relate a lot to your family life. I do love my family and I know they care for me but they were never invested in me in ways I wish they were. I had to grow up quickly because of that. I also don’t know my own dad and is definitely something that has played on my mind but seeing Nick’s story and knowing people in my life who have bad relationships with their own dads does make it easier to not feel too bad about it.
Sorry this was a long rant but you have some of the best reactions to this show and I’m glad to see someone show so much understanding to the complexities of these stories without making excuses for certain characters behaviours!
Art was my salvation too! Music!! Now I can look back clear eyed!! Lovely growth to adulthood and family!
I was waiting for your to get to episode 7. There is a Lot that isn't in the books and it's all SO IMPORTANT. This show is so powerful, so glad it exists.
Such a good episode, maybe even my favourite. All the confrontations and everything else too 👌
Ben absolutely breaks my heart. To be so unbelievably shattered through self hatred because of the pressures put onto you through family is so relatable. He is a complete asshole, but I can only imagine how immensely fractured person like that can be. Unfortunately, that pain will roll over anyone who’s near.
I'm so happy I found your channel. Watching you experience this beautiful season is making me feel like I'm watching it for the first time all over again. ♥
dammit Jackie, here you go making me cry again! 😭 your reaction to Isaac discovering his aro/ace identity did something to me that upon first watch on my own, I didn’t experience: chills and tears streaming down my face! I love your reactions so much! thank you for sharing them and your emotions with us ❤
Thank you for talking about your real experiences x
I cry thru most episodes of Heartstopper, and then I cry along with your reactions! Even though season two is darker, it does make me so happy. Like you said it’s a safe space and I feel like for every dark scene, Alice gives the characters the tools to cope and shows the audience how to speak up for themselves, how to support themselves and their friends and most of all, how to communicate. So often, I feel like the characters are speaking to the audience, especially the young audience and teaching really valuable skills.
This has been my favorite review from you so far. Thank you for sharing some of your personal life experiences. It sounds like you’ve gone through so much and I honestly wanted to reach through the screen and give you a hug 😢. Everyone’s experience is different and although our story’s are Cingular, our destiny is shared because as part of the lgbtq+ community, we all should want each others happiness. The happier and more successful each one of us is, the stronger our community gets. Love you Jackie and get your tissues ready for the last episode because it’s epic.
great reaction...as always...you are an amazing person. Thank you❤🧡💛💚💙💜
I'm a mum. Parents: support your kids. If you find it hard, you're not doing it right. End of.
I love your reactions. I also get very emotional watching this show but I find myself watching it multiple times. I am so happy a show like this exists now. It truly means so much.
That scene Issac has with the art student about being ACE perfectly summed how I felt/feel. When I realized that I might or I am ace it was so f*cking freeing. At 38 to know that I wasn't a failure in love. That the one serious relationship I had wasn't a waste because I couldn't love him the way he loved me. A huge huge huge weight was lifted. I cry every time I watch that scene. I truly thought I was broken and it took decades to realize I wasn't. This is why someone like Issac is important. Why, shows like Good Omens 2, our flag means death, owl house are important because they show relationships within the asexuality community as valid and just as important. Even the webseries Hulluv a boss has a good representation of asexuality. Young people/older people need to see themselves represented.
all these shows have ace rep?!
@@JackieRossLavenderYes, in Our Flag Means Death Blackbeard is Asexual ACE( he wears the ace flag colors) . Good Omens 2 Neil Gaman and the other creators have said that this season Azaraphale and Crowley are in an ACE relationship( that is what I read). I can not remember in Owl House. Helluv a boss might be a stretch I think the two main love interests are really Pan and not Asexual but the creator Brandon Roger's has talked a out Asexuality in the show.
I know one of those is a cartoon geared towards children but Owl House is so great for having queer representation especially for a Disney show.
your videos mean so much to me!🥺 you express emotion so beautifully & are so well spoken 💛 I adore heartstopper (& Alice Oseman) and it’s so lovely to see how much you appreciate it.
As someone who was also SA'd as a kid, Charlie's confrontation to Ben also hit me really hard and it's taken weeks for me to figure out why. But now I know that's why. That's the voice I've had in my head since I was little (3-9yo) telling me everything awful is what I deserved and everything good I wasn't worthy of. It's really hard to face. But it's so important to face it. Little me deserves big me to love her through it and tell her she's worthy.
God, I know exactly what you mean. And yes, we’re all worthy! We just need to keep repeating it, like with Tara’s advice to Darcy in Ep 8 - “practice makes perfect.”
This episode was the one that broke me in every way possible. The stuff Charlie says to Ben led me on a wave of emotions that I had suppressed on me for so long that I just sobbed my way through it. And Darcy's situation at her home with her mom... honestly hit too close to home. I can't put into words what it all meant to me.
crying is very therapeutic - if you feel like crying, then cry. you have all of our support (and most of us probably cried with you!)
also what you said about, if you aren't going to love and support your children through anything and everything then just don't have kids. YES. this.
love your reactions, they are so raw and real and insightful. keep doing what you're doing! ❤
I came out as Ace to my friends last year, and that was easy, but telling my parents was pretty scary. I've been so lucky with my friends, and they've been so supportive. Seeing Isac's journey here is not only inspiring, but it also gives me hope for future Ace and Aro kids, seeing that and feeling safe and represented.
I absolutely LOVE Tao's mom.
Tao grew so much just since episode 3. Paris was great for him!
I love Darcy but she really has to learn some boundaries, like her saying they're going to kiss and trying to set up Elle and Tao.
Don't worry, Ben's gone. I thought it was a great scene and I'm glad Charlie laid it all out there about how much Ben hurt him. Maybe that can start him down a better path. And I do believe people like Ben can change. But their victims do not owe them anything. So it's good that Charlie doesn't forgive him. It's also not what Ben needs. Ben needs to face what he did if he's to ever truly change, since this 'apology' was still just selfish excuses.
Great video! Love all the raw reactions.
Vent away chick. This is obviously bringing up a lot of stuff for you. Think it's amazing that you feel comfortable enough to tell us things about your life. Loved your reaction.
Watching you cry made me cry again. You are my favorite reactor. Its hard now, but I hope this heals some wounds for your in the long run.
Rewatch your reactions to discover your own power, jJackie. I love the depth of your reactions.
This was such an important episode. The book Isaac is holding when he’s at the art show is also super important. It’s called “we have always been here, a queer Muslim memoir” by samra habib. So there was so much representation packed into just a few minutes.
watching heartstopper made me realize that I relate to Issac.
Just wanted to say that I think you are a beautiful human being! ❤
I have two sons with severe autism. I would give anything, do anything, for them to have the communication skills, self-awareness, and understanding of relationships necessary for them to tell me they are gay. Parents who don't accept their kids are throwing away the greatest gift there is.
Elle's"Safe Space" is BOTH her 3 guys AND the Art Room [and probably by extension Mr. Ajiai since she was there "every lunch for months to paint her watercolor landscape picture we see in Boyfriend (1:8) AND, of course, ART since in the most meta sense of all, that's what this is, ART. And remember, Nick's comment on the stairs. You don't have to understand it, you can just feel it." But, this is her BOTH understanding it AND feeling it.
Dinner scene: notice the tiny nod Charlie's Dad gives him to follow after Nick. Just like Nick's little nod to Charllie to go after Imogen after the Ben breakup. And Charlie's Mum gets a redemption moment as they're leaving, both "We are very accustomed to Drama at our house!" and "He's a very nice boy when he's not distracting you from her coursework." She's trying.
And the Coming Out Dinner is at the end of Vol 4. It comes AFTER Charlie's getting better. So, moving it earlier, emphasizes the oncoming Eating Disorder main theme in S3. And yet, we just know that the rest of the Paris Posse will be there for each other, there for Nick especially, and there for Charlie remotely. And, we also know, that that camaraderie will bring each and every relationship closer. Perhaps even Isaac and James. Maybe even Imogen and Sahar or HARRY or BOTH! Poly is a thing too! And Harry deserves a storyline after "You don't need to call her a bitch.", "You've got your own problems.", "Something to be proud of, getting some action.", and even trying to apologize [even if it was perhaps in the moment more of an means to an end] and a "rich boy" really ought to make friends that don't just like him for his money before he HAS a lot of money because you can't really trust anyone after you do or it is super hard to anyway.
And Isaac had a little piece in that change [it's just before the Eiffel Tower scene, on the lawn. So Nick told him off then fought him. Charlie told him off, twice [GCSC after party/Tara's Party]. Sai, Christian and Otis aren't "friends with him anymore". Tara told him off. He's gotten expelled for fighting a younger student on school grounds [which didn't last very long, but still, must have shocked him] and I'm sure his parents didn't buy him the "right color Lamborghini" for his 16th birthday, though the cost of the party would have made a very nice down payment on it! And he REALLY, REALLY, REALLY wants a relationship with SOMEONE. He was literally "jealous" of Nick's attention to Charlie. He's protective of Imogen, and they truly would make "such a cute couple".Heck, if he played his cards right, he could be in a true throuple since Sahar is bi! It would be soooooooooooooo interesting if Imogen can't be the token ally anymore because she's not in a monogamous hetero-normative relationship!
I Can't. Wait! I want it NOW, Daddy! I want Season Three NOW!
Lots of tears this season. Can't imagine season 3
It is interesting that as he leaves, Stephane hugs David but taps Nick on the shoulder. My dad and I were estranged, and he still lived at home. I always told classmates in high school he was dead. When he died, I felt nothing when I was told. At the funeral, I felt nothing. 26 years later I don't mention him. My dad always called me stupid, a sissy, and fat. He used my weight to tell me that was why nobody wanted to be with me.
I’m sorry you went through that, but it sounds like you were able to free yourself from his toxicity by cutting him out of your life. That’s both brave and necessary.
Fun Fact: Elle’s painting is based on the one she was looking at while Tao was looking at her on their “not-date” at the museum in Paris.
I thought this, too, initially, but there’s no way she could have completed it, submitted it, and have it chosen for the showcase on that timeline. They return to England on July 4, and the flyer says that the showcase is on July 7.
@@elisabethbauman6190 I didn't say she based it on that painting "in-story," but the production team clearly based it on that painting. However, if you do want an in-story explanation, this works: "It's a famous painting. It was already a favorite of hers. She wanted to see the real thing in Paris, because she was already familiar with it and had started the painting based on it before the Paris trip."
@@AmanCreatesArt Yes! That makes a lot of sense. I love it!
Season 2 was absolutely amazing. Sometimes with shows as it goes on, it lags in certain areas but I feel with Heartstopper it just gets better and better, IMO. Huge kudos to the entire cast this season.
I've found your channel quit recently and I've got to say that I am obsessed with your reaction videos. I'm sorry I can't support you over on patron, but I try like every single video and see every single one till the end.
And that supports me more than a lot of people realise so thank you so, so much! ♥
I cried my way through Isaac's entire storyline no joke.
14:00 this show is 100% our safe space
As someone who realized they were ace ten years ago when there was virtually no representation anywhere, It's so heartwarming to see everyone's reactions to Isaac's aro ace storyline. People have been so empathetic and supportive it's honestly amazing; little 20 year old me would have never thought we would get this far.
Now I need to go back and watch your reaction to Loveless!!
I love that HS shows positive reactions to people coming out, but it was realistic to show Ben's experience. He shows that for many people, there isn't a supportive network. Charlie was honest with him, and he needed to hear it.
The ace art piece was something that really got me too😭😭 and the Ben thing made me so sad, because I had a ben in my life 😭
JRL, I really hope you can feel less broken over time. How you react to these clips from HS clearly demonstrates how dee a “feeler” you are.
It's ok JRL! It is an emotional episode, all of it.
I had a Ben when I was 13 and he did way worse things to me than Ben did, and I'll leave it at that... I actually recently got a message from him last November trying to connect but I pretty much wrote what Charlie said to him. I said I hope he's a better person now but he will not receive my forgiveness and I do not want him to be part of my life ever again.
so yeah... that scene broke me T_T
Sending hugs. You look like you need it x
yeahhh i was a bit emotional on this one… just wait for episode 8!
@@JackieRossLavender all good. Got me emotional when I watched it too.
About the point you said of dads giving hugs to queer sons, I understand a bit the behaviour of Nick's dad, as a lot of heterosexual men, maybe not in the younger generations, but before, they don't really understand the queer world, so that is why I don't blame Nick's dad as he also says that he does not really understand about being gay or queer. It is generational.
My dad is the same. He accepts me but I see that he does not really understand what is being gay. He told me once that he thought being gay is like being a drag queen.
I hope heterosexual men will be more open- minded in the future about it.
4:19 definition of filicide. 😂😂😂
Darcy hits a little too close to home.. I'm 14, and came out to my parents as bi about 3 years ago. If I wear anything not super feminine, my dad gets mad. I've always wanted to wear a suit when I go to prom in the future, but my dad would probably kick my out like Darcy's mom, and burn/destroy the suit.
The obsession with young kids being in relationships all goes back to a very old fashioned attitude, that every boy should have a girlfriend. I grew up in the 1990s, I remember when I was 7 in 1992, we had a birthday party, and one of my school friends kept asking me if I was going out with a girl in my class - yes, that happened even in 1992 and at 7 years old. If you watch kids shows of that time, they are always asked if they have a girlfriend/boyfriend. It is an old style attitude which has sadly not gone.
I'm still trying to figure out my own asexual identity and I really felt a lot watching Isaac's storyline, but you are the first openly ace person I've watched react to this (tbh I don't have a lot of ace creators that I know of at all) and seeing it resonate with you made me feel seen on a whole different level. It's one thing to see a character go through the same things you do but it hit me completely different watching you, a real person who has experienced these feelings, validate them. I've struggled a lot for a couple years now (when the idea that I might be ace was first brought up to me) to figure out what I feel and how I identify myself. But in just these videos you have helped me feel so much surer and more validated than almost anything else has in that time, so thank you for sharing your experience and I hope you know that your videos are helping people feel so much less alone.
Hi again - for me what you said about dads is so true - I lost my dad in 1995 when I was 10, he died from lung cancer. I always wondered what he would have made of my sexuality, being gay? He was a country man, born in County Antrim, Northern Ireland, and from what family told me for a country man, he was very liberal in his views, far more than my mum, who remains very conservative to this day, which is why we clash all the time. We are just polar opposites. I was a daddy's boy growing up, for those 10 years I had him in my life, we were very close. I always feel he would have been the biggest supporter of LGBTQ+ people, which would have surprised many.
Heartstopper is really playing with our feelings… i think in season one it was mostly on the positive side, where many “couples to be” started flirting and enjoyed all the “butterflies”… Now in season 2, we see a lot of struggles - which with true love - can be dealt with and love wins in the end ❤ @jackie I have just watched ep8 again - and i am sure you are going to love the rollercoaster of feelings, that rounds up the episode (and season) But a biiiig hint - have your supplies of tissues to the max - you wil be run over of lovely feelings ❤️🥰👨🏼🤝👨🏻
Elles art pieces mirrored Taos landscape painting from season 1 🫠🥰
i already left a similar comment on ur patreon about a year ago but im just rewatching these reactions again and isaacs storyline as well as u talking about how broken u felt, just desperately trying to figure out an answer for why you're not like everyone else around you before you discovered you're asexual just hit me so hard i couldn't help but comment on it again. this is almost a year now of me finally committing to a label of demisexual after Years of just being so so confused about myself, and it was in no small part due to you and your story resonating so deeply with me. thank you again for your openness and also such wonderful reactions that are just getting me so giddy for season 3, very excited to watch it and ur reactions :)
🌈💕✨🥰 My mother was-at times-similar to Darcy’s mother when she’d have angry fits like that; and my father could be very much like Nick’s, having little or no interest in my life or who I was.
29:14 I would love to see Isaac and James in a queer platonic relationship! Let's get some more aroace goodness up in here ❤
A new drinking game
Take a shot everytime Jackie-Ross Lavender cries in this video
we’re all getting druuuuuuuuuuunk
Not only The Issac/James friendship but I hope someone comes along as James Boyfriend in season 3 aswell!!!
It always irks me a little to see how Stephane hugs David, but just taps Nick on the shoulder.
Also, the scene between Tori and David always reminds me how in "This Winter" Tori tells Nick, "Your loser brother hit on me again."
You and tori are definitely twins. Hoping you are keeping up with the web comics. Im a patreon of alices and there is so much more tori detail coming you will love ❤️
Watching Ben trying to say "SORRY" for being the way he is, was heart wrenching. He is broken and my fear for him when he stepped back from the rainbow was that he might harm himself as so many LGBTQ youth do. He literally has no one to turn to. Don't get me wrong.... I do love that Charlie stood up for himself and expressed the damage that Ben had done to him. This has been a powerful episode for sure. Also, Elle's "SAFE PLACE" is also Charlie's safe place..... Mr Ajayi's Art Room.... very powerful on how one teacher can make such a huge difference. (The one teacher we had in the late 1960's that everyone felt safe with, was fired for being gay. It was a brutal day)
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Better not to be a parent than to be a shitty parent, I can't agree more
I have to say THANK YOU for being so transparent, so honest with your feelings and personal story, and so willing to be vulnerable about it all. I am OBSESSED with this show, and how beautifully it shows the full range of LGBTQ experience, and beyond that, just the experience of being a teenager. I cried SO MANY TIMES during the course of the season, sometimes from happiness, and sometimes just from seeing such honest depictions of the struggles adolescents go through. And I have to say I am SO impressed by how beautiful and perfect every aspect of this show is - from the writing, to the acting, to the directing, just all of it. One example - Ben is really such a totally loathsome and reprehensible character, but the way it's written, directed, and particularly ACTED by the beautiful Sebastian Croft, makes me actually feel something for him, in spite of how much I loathe him. That kind of depth and complexity is so rare in television, and this show really brings it in spades.
Question for the Brits: does “I don’t care” (as Nick says at dinner) have a deeper more impactful meaning than it might over in North America? Like… Is powerful but it seems like it lands harder over in England…
I wouldn't say so. I think it's pretty powerful either way. Nick is simply saying that his father's opinion of him doesn't matter at all to him. That's a pretty brave thing to recognize as a teenager towards your parent.
Do you think they will do anything involving Nick& Charlie and Solitaire? Hmmm. I hope so.
Alice has said that N&C will have parts integrated into the show but not Solitaire
Interesting coda in this episode. It starts with Tara's mom to end up with Darcy's.
very interesting. hoping it gets explored more in s3!