Interesting Fact: The British assumed that the Germans stole their idea of the turbojet engine. After the war, the designer of the Me 262 and his British counterpart met each other to compare notes and concluded that the designs of the jet engines were very different from each other.
The German engines suffered from poor quality metallurgy. Whittle realised early on that for the jet to be reliable this was crucial. Me 262s etc needed complete engine changes after a few sorties.
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor Yet were hopelessly unreliable. Your point is? FUN FACT - the Soviets realised the German jet engines they captured were useless. They tried espionage to discover UK metallurgical technology hoping to use the material with copying the German engine designs, that didn't work. They therefore bought Rolls Royce engines and a licence and copied them. The MiG 15 was powered by these. The US engines were the same.
while interesting concept i think allies would have been superior since the german luftwaffe didnt really have experience with the importance of energy and altitute since remember, they skipped the most important part the late pistons where altitute is needed
We also have to take into account of doctrine for this aircraft had it been operational in that year, which would be so complicated I don’t think most people can guess it, me included.
@@uberbeeg must have been an intense mixture of excitement and fear. you have to believe they mustve been thrilled with how much faster it was when they opened the throttle
Seeing one in the Smithsonian in 1992 was awesome. However, IMHO, “ Hitler ruined in” is a fable. This jet required tons of maintenance and rare materials, and premium fuel, which means it was unlikely to ever reach greater numbers than it did. But having said that, well done video.
I was lucky to shake hands with a man named Huey lamp who shot down a ME 262 in P-47. He said he saw the me 262 below him and used his superior energy of high altitude and the sheer weight of his p-47 to catch up and shoot it down. Crazy what people went through.
I had the honor of shaking hands with many dead pilots who were victims of ME-262. BTW, I am writing this comment from hell where those pilots are stacked for killing thousands of innocent Germans.
The first 1st Gen fighter jet. To this day I just love how it looks like a flying shark. I imagine that later proposals like that Hohegeschwindigkeit models would have been able to compete with Korean War era MiG-15s and F-86s. The most important aspect however is that we should return to tradition and put 4 30mm gun in our fighter jets. FCAS with quad 30mm sounds like a very versatile platform xD
I think you forgot about British jets made during the Cold War that have 4 30mm ADEN cannons. There is a good reason why they didn't return to this idea ever again. As for the German MK108, sure, it is good if you can hit your enemy. You'd have a much higher change of hitting em with a Soviet 37mm cannon than what you can with these slow AF cannons. As for the Me-262 upgrade that can take out Sabres and MiGs, I don't know. If you are talking about the rocket engined 262, you'll still have more issues. The biggest problem is endurance. Till when can you keep firing your rockets ? By the time you ran out of rocket fuel, your enemy will have a massive advantage over you, making its endurance low. You also have to consider the Schwalbe's less than stellar maneuverability due to its heavier weight (2 engines underneath the wings won't help either). The only way to make the 262 capable of handling the MiGs or the Sabres in the Korean War is by finding a much better engine. You don't need any rocket engines or an extra engine, you just need to find a way to get an engine that produces at least 15000kN each and you're good to go. This means that your new 262 has the same endurance as the Korean War stuff, but also competing in terms of performance. At the end of the day, you want more engine power from the engine itself rather than from extra additions such as rockets to give it the much coveted continuous endurance (which is still in the minds of aircraft manufacturers till this day). Apart from that, the Me-262 looks absolutely good and solid. It's flight performance is still questionable compared to a Meteor. Remember that speed and speed alone isn't everything; you also need acceleration and maneuverability to be considered to be a good plane, which, I believe, the Meteor simply wins over the Schwalbe.
It had swept wings in one design, a well as a radar and night fighting rescources. This means that the Germans had the designs to make a 3rd gen jet in the 40's
@@thenathan4490 he was talking about the high speed version of the 262, HG2 and HG3 and according to wind tunnel tests, their performance would be close to the Korean war jets
Lubrication was also a factor as normal oil could not survive the engine temps. The Germans invented synthetic oil to resolve this problem. Today's jet engines use a synthetic oil.
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 Germany hard a shortage of NICKEL which forced the switch to Chromium-based, Krupp P-198 _Chromadur_ alloy, a high temperature, creep resistant stainless alloy rated for 1,150 deg. F. P-198 is still used in jet engine production today and sold by ArcelorMittal as A286 alloy.. any questions?
Hitler demanding a jabo version didn't delay the deployment of the 262 by much, contrary to popular beliefs. The demand for jabo capability is also somewhat understandable given that every luftwaffe fighters at the time also had jabo capability, in a way most ww2 fighters ended up having fighter bomber capability in one form or another, especially American ones.
Great video! The Me262 is one of my favorite WWII designs. It's so beautiful. You might find an essay in the book "If the Allies Had Fallen: Sixty Alternate Scenarios of World War II" interesting. In Chapter 13, "Hitler's Role", historian Gerhard L. Weinberg argues that the fighter wasn't too late; instead, it was too early. Given Germany's wartime situation, it didn't have the money or resources for working on experimental "wonder weapons" that might or might not work. In contrast, the Allies could put huge amounts money and resources into such projects; the atomic bomb being the prime example. Germany didn't have that luxury.
the germans were screwed. they had to fight the two largest super powers. The amount of stuff the us could make was about as much as the entire rest of the world combined. also there was no way to hurt americas production. USSR, UK, Japanese, and german industry could be bombed. GL hitting america
@@TheKulu42 one of germanys main problems was that they didnt have enough fuel. all the innovation and wonder weapons in the world arent going to help. maybe they should have developed a 'wonder horse' to pull their 'mechanized' divisions....
Thank you for adding footage from Red Tails. Some people liked it, some people didn't but you can't deny the CGI used in the aerial combat scenes especially against the Me-262.
True, besides the physics breaking and the fact that even a sprinkle of 30mm would have dismantled those P-51s like a dropped lego set. Too bas they didn't model their HE shells
Great vid. The animations are great, noticed this time you even had some Red Tails footage. Me163 and He162 next? Perhaps the Ar234 jet bomber which had radar equipped night fighter version can be featured too at some point?
Not in 1944, but imagine if HC listened to galland in 1942 and produced nothing but 190s and 262s for their fighter roles. Lots needed to go right for the overall war effort for Germany but if the 262 was produced earlier in the war when Germany had access to the men and materials needed to field them in high number, the 262 would have dominated the skys east and west.
@@Lefffer A reaction prompts a counter reaction. The Gloster Meteor was introduced 2 months after the 262 (and the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star a little after the Meteor). If the 262 appears earlier then the Gloster Meteor becomes a higher priority for the RAF and they would be perhaps less worried about Meteors being shot down over Germany and reverse engineered, thus being more aggressive with them. The 262 is also fuel and resource hungry and would bleed the Luftwaffe to death sooner, thus perhaps ending the war quicker.
The Meteor was developed in a similar time frame and introduced in 1944, but focus was on piston aircraft as they were so well developed and not really any 'worse' on the whole than early jets. You can't help that think that a shed load of FW190 would have been more of a problem than the 262
Agreed. The 262's kill: losses ratio was 1 : 1.5, not very good. By comparison, the Tempest's kill : losses ratio was 7 : 1 on all types and 6 : 1 against single seaters.
the thing with the overrated Tempest was, it was only at the right place at the right time, but it wasn't a really modern fighter plane during that time, nor was it a perfect one as others too.
@@Gute_Laune_Boy it was pretty good! The Sea Fury was developed from it and that's pretty much the definitive piston engined fighter. But right place, right time is what you want. Jets weren't really competitive for another decade at least. Yes, on its day, a 262 could out perform anything. However, it sucked up resource and was only really useful in certain circumstances. A squadron of Tempests however could cause havoc reliably.
The first Meteor I with Welland engines had a speed of only 444mph when Derwent I were introduced the speed may have gotten to 460mph. It wasn't any faster than a Ta 152 or Spitfire XVIII or F.24. The Meteor III wasn't much faster because the Derwents were restricted as well. On top of that the navels produced shock drag and had to be enlarged and modified several times on both Meteor I and III. The result was that the Meteor wasn't a fast jet until after the war due to the engines and nacelle.
A FW190 wasn't really cheaper to make than a 262. Especially the jet engines were cheaper than the latest piston engines. Plus the fuel required for jets was much cheaper and easier to make as well. It made absolutely sense to build jet aircraft. But in reality the war situation made anything Germany did by then (1944) absolutely pointless. Even if focused on less complex but more numerous designs for aircraft, tanks or other equipment the war in Europe very likely would have ended in 1945 plus/minus 3-4 months. An extended war in Europe might also have concluded with a nuke like in Asia.
One correction, which many probably already said: The Me-262 was never in a position to win the war for Germany. - Germany was already losing on all fronts when they were deployed. - They were never deployed in large enough numbers to make a noticeable impact, much less a decisive one. - Even if Germany managed to produce enough of them, they lacked the resources to deploy them in large numbers for a sustained period of time, since by then they were experiencing fuel shortages. - And even if they had the numbers and resources, it wasn't so advanced as to decisively outclass all other allied planes. There are stories of Me-262's engaging piston-engine fighters and managing to come out on top due to its altitude advantage and several problems with the Me-262. - Finally, the Me-262 did not maintain its technological superiority for that long. By the end of the war the allies were starting to field their own jet fighters.
@@Diego-zz1dfThere was nothing fielded after the war , many years of testing and upgrading . The F-80 in 1948 was the first jet fighter build in large numbers , the Gloster Meteor in I think 1947 . The first Meteor was ready in 1944 sure , but hardly faster than props . Meanwhile the Germans got the Me262 HG1 and HG2 ready , the war was lost in 1942 no question . But the jet fighter race the Germans won and we don't talk about their other projects . Horten 229 , He 162 and the Me163 .
@@5co756 wow ok there is so much to unpack here, the first gloster meteor was ready in 1943, and it entered service in 1944, it was much faster then props, and it quickly became faster then the Me-262, the meteors broke 962 km/h by 1945 and the me-262 still went around 890-900, apart from that the F-80 was ready in 1944, and entered service in 1945 where it was also faster then the Me-262, at 955 km/h, the only allied nation of the big 3 that didnt have a jet ready and in service by the end of the war was the soviets with the MiG-9 which first took to the air in 1946, so...yeah..while it was the first jet, and rather innovative, it fell off real quick by stuff fielded and upgrade (in the case of the meteor) after the war, so yeah, there was stuff fielded after the war, not sure where you got the idea that there was nothing.
@@M41D_Walker_Bulldog It was July 1944 and the F.1 was hardly any faster than late props , 460mph (740kph)top speed . The F.3 in November 1945 broke the speed record of 970kph , the war was already over . The Germans were out of game long time ago , the Me262 got no major upgrades wich were also planned . And the US got the P-80 wich also saw no combat in WW2 , only four were send to Europe wich two of them crashed and killed the pilots. Two were send back and one of them also crashed in the US , the F-80C went into service in 1948 . You don't even know the correct names and you wanna tell me something ? 😅 Both the Gloster Meteor and the F-80 were outdated as they went into service , no swept wings wich are essential for high speeds as the Germans discovered . Both got smoked in the Korean War by Mig15's , the F-86 Sabre was the real deal . The Meteor broke some speed records, but that's it . The F1 and even the F3 wouldn't had any chance against the Me262 in flight performance, wich is a reason why it saw no combat over Germany .
There were other developments of the ME-262 during the second world war, variants that would make the aircraft look incredibly modern and these variants being the HG series. Perhaps you can make a video of this? No rush.
One big issue for the ME 262 you failed to talk about was the fact Germany didn't have the Fuel to actually have a large scale fleet of ME 262s Cool design but it was way too little way too late and just therr weren't the resources for it
Jet fuel was at least easier to make than high octane piston engine fuel. But certainly, by the time Germany introduced its jets, the ship had long sailed, the war situation was absolutely hopeless for Germany from 1943/44 onwards.
The real reason that the Me262 arrived “too little too late“ was the chronic delays in perfecting production of the Jumo jet engines. Hitler’s stupid and contradictory orders were very unhelpful, but even if he had Supported the fighter version from the very beginning, the plane would still have evolved as it did simply because there were not enough reliable jet engines to equip more than the handful of planes that actually flew.
Germans would have needed to develop and mass produce their jet engines and places in peace time because of the huge need for heat resistant allows... Ni, Cr, W, alloyed steel. Plus the precession machine tools need to manufacture turbine and compressor component to tight tolerances, etc. Plus the number required of long range fighters and bombers, fuel requirements.
A great leap forward, but they drank a lot of fuel and had a limited range of flight. Also needed to take off from a cement runway so they used the Autobahn. Armed with rockets and piloted with experienced pilots they had a seven to one kill ratio!
Everytime he claims "X plane/project could've turned the tides for the Germans" it feels like a Werhaboo with no understanding of the immense manpower and material difference between the Axis and Allies. "Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics" Gen. Bradley
And smart people understand that the idea of air war change fundamentally if the R4M, a cheap easy rocket is developed in 1940. Then the yankeeaboos explain to me how the allies bomb the german production and transport system, the german cities... :D THAT is the wonderweapon you need to change ww2. With it every german plane can kill easily the allied bombers... think about this: say in 1942 you want to bomb a german areal but know, if you try to do so you loose 90% of your bombers in any mission you fly and your enemy loose 1/3 of their planes to OTL. Why? because the germans no longer need to put tons of HEAVY 30mm-guns on their planes... even the Me109F can now easily kill heavy bombers without getting into the allied defence fire :D
Great to see this channel blow up, just two things in this particular vid got me. As far as I know you don't pronounce aircraft names as one word, you pronounce each letter. For example you wouldn't call an FA-18 a 'fah eighteen' same for Me or He. secondly, 6:51 Imminent, not intimate lol
I think he does that because it’s part of the name, kind of like Su-37 or Mi-8. F/A is pronounced “eff a”because it’s a designation for Fighter/Attack.
@@Aiophgy as far as i know, the only reason Russian planes names are pronounced whole, has to do with the Cyrillic language, where they pronounce Acronyms as words. like the PPSh, the russians would call it something closer to "Papesho" or "PaPashaw". the actual russian spelling is ППШ (Still PPSh) but the Ш is an english Sh.
@@mitchelljakubka Agree - for example, I've never heard anybody pronounce the FW-190 as the "fuhwuh-190". Also, please, please, please, people who make videos about WW2 and Germany, for the love of god, learn some basic German pronunciation!! For example, "Luftwaffe" is pronounced "looft-vahfeh". The issue is, when you mispronounce these things, your credibility plummets. As soon as I hear things pronounced incorrectly, I switch off. It's the same in audio books. I'm amazed at how these authors/narrators don't make the effort to learn the correct pronunciations.
If the European war continued into August 1945, you would have seen Silver Plate B-29s escorted by P80 jets over Germany. And that, would be the end of that.
"There is simply nothing comparable?" - I don't know, the British had jet fighters at a relatively comparable state of development, they were just not desperate enough to put them into frontline action, and wanted to avoid any crashing over enemy territory to be taken apart by the enemy, so mostly used them over British territory defensively, particularly agains V1s, while gaining experience with jet plane handling characteristics without risking their best aces and building up their numbers to a point, where if necessary they would actually matter. That's the problem with all these Wunderwaffen non-sense. It isn't that the allies didn't have amazing new inventions of their own, sometimes even in the same area, they just didn't have to use prototypes on the frontline, at least later in the war, and what they got from Germany after victory gave them complementary technology that together with their own created that seeming sudden burst in perceived technological capability.
I hate when things say Germany almost could have won the war. The german oil production was absolutely dismal by 1944. Pilots from British and American training were coming in at 400 hours+. New German pilots were coming with 1/4 of that because of fuel saving. They could have produced 9000 of these planes and it would have made zero difference because of fuel and training limitations. Its not a fun side to study but starting looking at the production numbers in ww2 and unless Germany got a nuke, it would never have ever been in their favor. When reading a higher call I think in 1943 the Luftwaffe was defending Sicily with 17 fighters vs the American and British combined 1000.
Yep and the usual suspects knew this,before they declared war on Germany,they knew that they could never get their hands on enough oil,regardless on what wounderwaffe they came up with.
My favorite quote will always be amateurs talk tactics professionals talk logistics. Worked in logistics during my time as an Airman and work as a Quartermaster now with the Defense Militia. Once Germany stopped getting oil from Romania the party was over for them. Everyone keeps bringing up synthetic oil but I don't see how they could possibly make enough of it to fuel the Wehrmacht.
@ yes but their training aircraft did not. A pilot must get training to have a chance in the air. The late stage German pilots were not the training they needed.
That aside, will there be a video on the Yak-41 in the future? It was a soviet VTOL project and even flew. Lockheed later purchased some of the technology used and utilized an improved version of the system in the F-35B.
Not flying, but instead described the engines with this sentence, because he saw no prop and only a high pitched sound was all the noise unlike pistons which vibrated and sounded loud throughout the flight.
The ME-262 did not nearly win the war. Not even close. It came too late, too few were built and Germany couldn’t sustain them due to the loss of most of their best pilots and their inability to get oil to fuel the jets
Fact is, the ME 262 was introduce too late in the war and was plagued with problems that made it not much of a threat. A couple of month later the UK introduced their jet fighter and a few weeks after that so did the US The 262 gets all the press solely because it was the first operational jet fighter
It's not just the first operational jet fighter. It was the engine type they used. The Americans and Brits had the Centrifugal Jet engine. The Germans on the other hand had the Axial-Flow jet engine that we use today.
It was at the end of the war. The Germans were low on resources and definitely did not have access to all the necessary metals to improve the jet engines. Despite the short comings it proved to be an amazing fighter plane with a kill ratio that was actually good. Hitlers insistence on using it as a bomber essentially handicapping the jet and lack of good pilots because of attrition sealed the fate. Also the German jet engine design is what we use in modern jets not the British design.
Please add a link to the interview of Hanna Reitsch; she was a Me 262 test pilot, and the first woman to fly a jet aircraft. Her first hand description of her first test flight, "The speed was absolutely intoxicating!"
The first Jet engines were horrible. They were not yet reliable. The 262 couldn't go with out major failures every 25 hours. The meterials science and manufacturing techniques had yet to be perfected to be able to make this jet utilized in a war.
By the time the Me 262 came into production, the German manufacturing capabilities were in shambles. And these early generation jet engines needed to be completely rebuilt practically every other time they were flown. Lack of Jet fuel and experienced pilots were an issue by that time as well.
So what? This is the quote of a man who did what? The german jets were no ÜBER-weapons... but they mean you cannot defend your bombers, esp. if these jets come 2 years earlier and esp. if the R4M-rockets come in 4 years earlier... Just think about it.
The title is so misleading. It should be "The Nazi super plane that was too late and by far not good enough to even make a slight upward dent in the rapid loss of the war".
Great videos. I love all your vids and especially the ones on current and non prototype aircrafts. Also amazing models. Everything is great about your channel. Btw, a quick question about the War thunder sponsor, how long does it last and does it activate right after you download the game?
I have the squadron version in war thunder and it’s quite good against propeller aircraft pilots but you mostly fight Cold War jets and even stuff like mig 15s and F-86 Sabres that’s are better than the 262 in most ways
US engineers considered jet engine fighters as early as 1939 but planes such as the Lockheed T-33 and Bell P-59 were cancelled for the development of more traditional prop fighters which were less expensive, dependable and could be mass produced and these projects were defunded and canceled. This strategy proved to be wise. British engineers did develop the Gloster Meteor jet fighter which saw WW2 action focusing on the war at their doorstep defending their coast. It did not see action in Europe.
5:09 Credits for you man for not censoring the Nazi Swastika for realism purposes, i feel really immersed and could totallt picture what it lookz like had it been used effectively
The Allies too had their jet fighters. The British had the Gloster Meteors and the US had the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Stars. They were not as good as the Me262 but the Allies could always manufacture many times more than the Germans if the Me262 ever became a genuine threat. In any case, the Germans ran out of fuel and experienced pilots by that stage of the war.
"not as good as the Me 262", really?, did those planes lost parts mid air (including their engines), exploded in flames for no reason (engine burnout and internal fuel lines rupture due to vibration) and killed more of their pilots than the enemy?, because that is the track record of the 262, the plane was so poorly constructed and so unreliable that every time someone took of in it there was a 60/40 chance of them not coming back due to the plane crashing or exploding out of the blue. Not to mention the severe lack of resources to produce them in kind-off reliable forms which meant parts of the plane been replaced by wood in the late stages of the war.
@@PointReflex Allied jets were no match for Me-262... The Gloster Meatbox was so bad it only killed british pilots in WW2, it would continue killing RAF pilots, 450 were killed by the worst jet aircraft in RAF history. Half of the P-80s in service crashed and the American jet remained grounded for the remainder of the war.
the fact that 1400 were built and couldn't make a significant difference is amazing .. you'd think that massing them would have had a big impact on the bomber runs ...
Great production! In Messerschmitt the double-s in Messer is pronounced exactly like in the word mess. The sch in schmitt is pronounced like the sh in short or ship. You did it right a couple of times and wrong a couple of others. Cheers, Johannes
The title is a sensationalist misnomer. With approximately only 500 unverifiable kills to its name (German pilots just claimed what they liked), versus the enormous cost of the design and development, and constant replacement of those engines, added to an unknown number of losses to its own pilots, due to engine malfunction, lack of pilot training, and kills by the allies, the title is only a fantasy, probably based on lots of ifs and buts, that had circumstances been different, It would all have been much more fantastic than it was, and we can all have those moments. However, its best to live in reality, than through garish comics........
00:45 - it has finally happened!!!!! An English history documentary that correctly pronounces "Messerschmitt!! THANK YOU!!!!!! You have given me back hope in humanity 🥰😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩
0:42 No, it wasn't the first jet fighter. The Gloster Meteor had it's maiden flight in 1941, when the Me-262 was still a propeller driven proof of concept. It wouldn't be jet powered until 1942. You could perhaps argue it was the first *operational* jet fighter.
Why are you putting scare quotes around "unfair"? The Treaty of Versailles absolutely was unfair, deliberately so. The Allied Powers' eagerness to punish Germany for WWI led directly to the rise of the Nazi party.
Good weapon... Problem is very few are made ,and lack of resources hinders there production.. Even if took down hundreds of bombers ,the Allies can easily replace there losses
@@lemster101 well everyone will frown saying someone has a Nazi jet. But without Nazis. Alot of the stuff we take for granted today wouldn't of been made or implemented. Or used on the scale it's used today. We have to give props to the Nazis for what they did in advancing technology. And hey. It's the first operation jet and it's pretty badass.
Military Aviation History did a video some time ago about that "it must be a bomber" and its not as clear cut as often portrayed. Germany was so short on airframes that all newly built fighters had to have fighter-bomber capability. Jets and props alike.
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Interesting Fact:
The British assumed that the Germans stole their idea of the turbojet engine. After the war, the designer of the Me 262 and his British counterpart met each other to compare notes and concluded that the designs of the jet engines were very different from each other.
Similar to how Northrop and Horten worked simultaneously on flying wing concepts. War really creates genius ideas.
The German engines suffered from poor quality metallurgy. Whittle realised early on that for the jet to be reliable this was crucial. Me 262s etc needed complete engine changes after a few sorties.
IIRC, the British developed the first Centrifugal Jet engine, while the Germans developed Axial-Flow, inline style Jet engines too.
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor Yet were hopelessly unreliable. Your point is?
FUN FACT - the Soviets realised the German jet engines they captured were useless. They tried espionage to discover UK metallurgical technology hoping to use the material with copying the German engine designs, that didn't work. They therefore bought Rolls Royce engines and a licence and copied them. The MiG 15 was powered by these. The US engines were the same.
wow
Too little and too late , can you imagine if Me-262 is operational by 1941
while interesting concept i think allies would have been superior since the german luftwaffe didnt really have experience with the importance of energy and altitute since remember, they skipped the most important part the late pistons where altitute is needed
We also have to take into account of doctrine for this aircraft had it been operational in that year, which would be so complicated I don’t think most people can guess it, me included.
War pushes development. If the Me262 appeared earlier then the British Jet would have rapidly been brought into service.
They'd still be facing lack of materials to build them and the lack of production capacity.
@@dannyzero692 I think it would've been similar to the MiG-21s in Vietnam. Ambush and run if I remember it correctly.
Imagine being one of the first ppl to pilot those jet fighters, honestly it mustve felt incredibly badass 😂
They were prone to fires, so I think anxiety would have been high. New aircraft are usually treated with more distrust than joy.
@@uberbeeg must have been an intense mixture of excitement and fear. you have to believe they mustve been thrilled with how much faster it was when they opened the throttle
Badass? 🤦♂️
@@dingse3_ what about it?
I’m about to unlock it in war thunder today and I’m gonna be going 3x faster than my friends 😆
Seeing one in the Smithsonian in 1992 was awesome. However, IMHO, “ Hitler ruined in” is a fable. This jet required tons of maintenance and rare materials, and premium fuel, which means it was unlikely to ever reach greater numbers than it did. But having said that, well done video.
It didn't require premium fuel, it did however have a lot of problems with rushed development, rushed engine design, and poor craftsmanship.
Nearly won the war? There was no way in hell the M.E 262 could have won the war in the small numbers it was produced. No chance in hell.
Me 262 lowkey trash
@@barefootbreezy6983it’s not that it was trash it’s just that it worked a lot more differently to a traditional fighter
Unreliable and not enough fuel for an inefficient jet, too.
Imagine they had an operation fleet of these by 1941 though
Bad gun platform. Too many issues.
I was lucky to shake hands with a man named Huey lamp who shot down a ME 262 in P-47. He said he saw the me 262 below him and used his superior energy of high altitude and the sheer weight of his p-47 to catch up and shoot it down. Crazy what people went through.
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I had the honor of shaking hands with many dead pilots who were victims of ME-262. BTW, I am writing this comment from hell where those pilots are stacked for killing thousands of innocent Germans.
@@UndoEverything Ok
US pilots shot down migs with prop planes in vietnam
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The first 1st Gen fighter jet.
To this day I just love how it looks like a flying shark. I imagine that later proposals like that Hohegeschwindigkeit models would have been able to compete with Korean War era MiG-15s and F-86s.
The most important aspect however is that we should return to tradition and put 4 30mm gun in our fighter jets. FCAS with quad 30mm sounds like a very versatile platform xD
I think you forgot about British jets made during the Cold War that have 4 30mm ADEN cannons. There is a good reason why they didn't return to this idea ever again.
As for the German MK108, sure, it is good if you can hit your enemy. You'd have a much higher change of hitting em with a Soviet 37mm cannon than what you can with these slow AF cannons.
As for the Me-262 upgrade that can take out Sabres and MiGs, I don't know. If you are talking about the rocket engined 262, you'll still have more issues. The biggest problem is endurance. Till when can you keep firing your rockets ? By the time you ran out of rocket fuel, your enemy will have a massive advantage over you, making its endurance low. You also have to consider the Schwalbe's less than stellar maneuverability due to its heavier weight (2 engines underneath the wings won't help either).
The only way to make the 262 capable of handling the MiGs or the Sabres in the Korean War is by finding a much better engine. You don't need any rocket engines or an extra engine, you just need to find a way to get an engine that produces at least 15000kN each and you're good to go. This means that your new 262 has the same endurance as the Korean War stuff, but also competing in terms of performance.
At the end of the day, you want more engine power from the engine itself rather than from extra additions such as rockets to give it the much coveted continuous endurance (which is still in the minds of aircraft manufacturers till this day).
Apart from that, the Me-262 looks absolutely good and solid. It's flight performance is still questionable compared to a Meteor. Remember that speed and speed alone isn't everything; you also need acceleration and maneuverability to be considered to be a good plane, which, I believe, the Meteor simply wins over the Schwalbe.
It had swept wings in one design, a well as a radar and night fighting rescources.
This means that the Germans had the designs to make a 3rd gen jet in the 40's
@@thenathan4490 he was talking about the high speed version of the 262, HG2 and HG3 and according to wind tunnel tests, their performance would be close to the Korean war jets
@@thenathan4490 262 acceleration was marginally higher than the meteor
@@peppapig9987 that is literally the dumbest thing i have ever read, thankyou for the giggle good sir!
Those engines had a 20 hour life before replacement lol. Still beautiful and innovative
Lack of chrome and cobalt
Lubrication was also a factor as normal oil could not survive the engine temps. The Germans invented synthetic oil to resolve this problem. Today's jet engines use a synthetic oil.
US Army tests conducted during Operation LUSTY confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours... better than Allied engines..
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 Germany hard a shortage of NICKEL which forced the switch to Chromium-based, Krupp P-198 _Chromadur_ alloy, a high temperature, creep resistant stainless alloy rated for 1,150 deg. F.
P-198 is still used in jet engine production today and sold by ArcelorMittal as A286 alloy..
any questions?
Hitler demanding a jabo version didn't delay the deployment of the 262 by much, contrary to popular beliefs. The demand for jabo capability is also somewhat understandable given that every luftwaffe fighters at the time also had jabo capability, in a way most ww2 fighters ended up having fighter bomber capability in one form or another, especially American ones.
Additionally, it was mandatory for all new fighter aircraft to be able to carry bombs.
Great video! The Me262 is one of my favorite WWII designs. It's so beautiful. You might find an essay in the book "If the Allies Had Fallen: Sixty Alternate Scenarios of World War II" interesting. In Chapter 13, "Hitler's Role", historian Gerhard L. Weinberg argues that the fighter wasn't too late; instead, it was too early. Given Germany's wartime situation, it didn't have the money or resources for working on experimental "wonder weapons" that might or might not work. In contrast, the Allies could put huge amounts money and resources into such projects; the atomic bomb being the prime example. Germany didn't have that luxury.
the germans were screwed. they had to fight the two largest super powers. The amount of stuff the us could make was about as much as the entire rest of the world combined. also there was no way to hurt americas production. USSR, UK, Japanese, and german industry could be bombed. GL hitting america
Wait, how too early, again, other than just shouldn’t have happened for her? (Which I agree with).
War back then was about innovation. Whoever had the best ideas would win. It wasn’t too early, it was just when it needed to be
@@buhkaw Yes, there was quite a lot of innovation. One of the Germany's main problems, I believe, was thinking the war would be short.
@@TheKulu42 one of germanys main problems was that they didnt have enough fuel. all the innovation and wonder weapons in the world arent going to help. maybe they should have developed a 'wonder horse' to pull their 'mechanized' divisions....
Thank you for adding footage from Red Tails. Some people liked it, some people didn't but you can't deny the CGI used in the aerial combat scenes especially against the Me-262.
True, besides the physics breaking and the fact that even a sprinkle of 30mm would have dismantled those P-51s like a dropped lego set. Too bas they didn't model their HE shells
Hearing this master piece of engineering called the "me" 262 rather than "m e" 262 was shameful
Exactly what I was thinking! I've noticed similar mistakes in other videos too! and it's a shame as it spoils an otherwise good video.
Great vid. The animations are great, noticed this time you even had some Red Tails footage.
Me163 and He162 next?
Perhaps the Ar234 jet bomber which had radar equipped night fighter version can be featured too at some point?
The fate of German airspace was not up to the ME 262 just as the fate of the defense of Germany was not up to the Panzer VIII Maus.
Not in 1944, but imagine if HC listened to galland in 1942 and produced nothing but 190s and 262s for their fighter roles.
Lots needed to go right for the overall war effort for Germany but if the 262 was produced earlier in the war when Germany had access to the men and materials needed to field them in high number, the 262 would have dominated the skys east and west.
@@Lefffer A reaction prompts a counter reaction. The Gloster Meteor was introduced 2 months after the 262 (and the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star a little after the Meteor). If the 262 appears earlier then the Gloster Meteor becomes a higher priority for the RAF and they would be perhaps less worried about Meteors being shot down over Germany and reverse engineered, thus being more aggressive with them. The 262 is also fuel and resource hungry and would bleed the Luftwaffe to death sooner, thus perhaps ending the war quicker.
The Meteor was developed in a similar time frame and introduced in 1944, but focus was on piston aircraft as they were so well developed and not really any 'worse' on the whole than early jets.
You can't help that think that a shed load of FW190 would have been more of a problem than the 262
Agreed. The 262's kill: losses ratio was 1 : 1.5, not very good.
By comparison, the Tempest's kill : losses ratio was 7 : 1 on all types and 6 : 1 against single seaters.
the thing with the overrated Tempest was, it was only at the right place at the right time, but it wasn't a really modern fighter plane during that time, nor was it a perfect one as others too.
@@Gute_Laune_Boy it was pretty good! The Sea Fury was developed from it and that's pretty much the definitive piston engined fighter.
But right place, right time is what you want. Jets weren't really competitive for another decade at least.
Yes, on its day, a 262 could out perform anything. However, it sucked up resource and was only really useful in certain circumstances. A squadron of Tempests however could cause havoc reliably.
The first Meteor I with Welland engines had a speed of only 444mph when Derwent I were introduced the speed may have gotten to 460mph. It wasn't any faster than a Ta 152 or Spitfire XVIII or F.24. The Meteor III wasn't much faster because the Derwents were restricted as well. On top of that the navels produced shock drag and had to be enlarged and modified several times on both Meteor I and III. The result was that the Meteor wasn't a fast jet until after the war due to the engines and nacelle.
A FW190 wasn't really cheaper to make than a 262. Especially the jet engines were cheaper than the latest piston engines. Plus the fuel required for jets was much cheaper and easier to make as well. It made absolutely sense to build jet aircraft.
But in reality the war situation made anything Germany did by then (1944) absolutely pointless. Even if focused on less complex but more numerous designs for aircraft, tanks or other equipment the war in Europe very likely would have ended in 1945 plus/minus 3-4 months. An extended war in Europe might also have concluded with a nuke like in Asia.
Titel: "nearly won the war"
Video: "not nearly enough to change anything"
XD ,nice video tho
One correction, which many probably already said: The Me-262 was never in a position to win the war for Germany.
- Germany was already losing on all fronts when they were deployed.
- They were never deployed in large enough numbers to make a noticeable impact, much less a decisive one.
- Even if Germany managed to produce enough of them, they lacked the resources to deploy them in large numbers for a sustained period of time, since by then they were experiencing fuel shortages.
- And even if they had the numbers and resources, it wasn't so advanced as to decisively outclass all other allied planes. There are stories of Me-262's engaging piston-engine fighters and managing to come out on top due to its altitude advantage and several problems with the Me-262.
- Finally, the Me-262 did not maintain its technological superiority for that long. By the end of the war the allies were starting to field their own jet fighters.
Yep, it may have shortened the war by taking away resources, manpower and development.
@@denroy3 No, that's not what I'm saying.
@@Diego-zz1dfThere was nothing fielded after the war , many years of testing and upgrading . The F-80 in 1948 was the first jet fighter build in large numbers , the Gloster Meteor in I think 1947 . The first Meteor was ready in 1944 sure , but hardly faster than props .
Meanwhile the Germans got the Me262 HG1 and HG2 ready , the war was lost in 1942 no question . But the jet fighter race the Germans won and we don't talk about their other projects . Horten 229 , He 162 and the Me163 .
@@5co756 wow ok there is so much to unpack here, the first gloster meteor was ready in 1943, and it entered service in 1944, it was much faster then props, and it quickly became faster then the Me-262, the meteors broke 962 km/h by 1945 and the me-262 still went around 890-900, apart from that the F-80 was ready in 1944, and entered service in 1945 where it was also faster then the Me-262, at 955 km/h, the only allied nation of the big 3 that didnt have a jet ready and in service by the end of the war was the soviets with the MiG-9 which first took to the air in 1946, so...yeah..while it was the first jet, and rather innovative, it fell off real quick by stuff fielded and upgrade (in the case of the meteor) after the war, so yeah, there was stuff fielded after the war, not sure where you got the idea that there was nothing.
@@M41D_Walker_Bulldog It was July 1944 and the F.1 was hardly any faster than late props , 460mph (740kph)top speed . The F.3 in November 1945 broke the speed record of 970kph , the war was already over . The Germans were out of game long time ago , the Me262 got no major upgrades wich were also planned . And the US got the P-80 wich also saw no combat in WW2 , only four were send to Europe wich two of them crashed and killed the pilots. Two were send back and one of them also crashed in the US , the F-80C went into service in 1948 . You don't even know the correct names and you wanna tell me something ? 😅
Both the Gloster Meteor and the F-80 were outdated as they went into service , no swept wings wich are essential for high speeds as the Germans discovered . Both got smoked in the Korean War by Mig15's , the F-86 Sabre was the real deal .
The Meteor broke some speed records, but that's it . The F1 and even the F3 wouldn't had any chance against the Me262 in flight performance, wich is a reason why it saw no combat over Germany .
Plane was amazing but too late. War was already lost
There were other developments of the ME-262 during the second world war, variants that would make the aircraft look incredibly modern and these variants being the HG series. Perhaps you can make a video of this? No rush.
One big issue for the ME 262 you failed to talk about was the fact Germany didn't have the Fuel to actually have a large scale fleet of ME 262s
Cool design but it was way too little way too late and just therr weren't the resources for it
By the way, the Me-262 ran on diesel.
And by the design of Turbojets, it was essentially a TDI.
Jet fuel was at least easier to make than high octane piston engine fuel. But certainly, by the time Germany introduced its jets, the ship had long sailed, the war situation was absolutely hopeless for Germany from 1943/44 onwards.
If introduced earlier, they would. Also, jet fuel is theoretically easier to produce.
It's generally an asterisk, it did little to alter the war, except by Germany spending time, money and resources that should of went elsewhere
@@theslavicsailor6654 if? If? Then the US maybe nukes Berlin. It wasn't operational because it was in development.
Fun fact: the me 262 has a bad performance engine rather than a fast jet they got a not fast jet most of them getting shot down by a p51s.
262 was faster but most were shot during takeoff or landing because of its atrocious takeoff time.
Chuck Yeager when asked about the ME262, he relied: “First time I saw a jet, I shot it down.”
The Me-262 did not come close to "winning the war" lmao.
ah yes, the first jet fighter that shook the daydreams outta the allies
nearly won the war when allies already had jets flying over italy in non-combat roles ... 🥱
The real reason that the Me262 arrived “too little too late“ was the chronic delays in perfecting production of the Jumo jet engines. Hitler’s stupid and contradictory orders were very unhelpful, but even if he had Supported the fighter version from the very beginning, the plane would still have evolved as it did simply because there were not enough reliable jet engines to equip more than the handful of planes that actually flew.
Germans would have needed to develop and mass produce their jet engines and places in peace time because of the huge need for heat resistant allows... Ni, Cr, W, alloyed steel. Plus the precession machine tools need to manufacture turbine and compressor component to tight tolerances, etc. Plus the number required of long range fighters and bombers, fuel requirements.
Lack of chrome and cobalt
Good morning hope everyone’s having a good day so far
how did you comment 58 minutes ago if the video was sent 21 minutes ago?
I commented whilst it was waiting to premiere
Great video! If you are doing videos in more well-known aircraft, I recommend the Yakovlev Yak-28.
Could you make videos on the german TA183 and the P1101 as well?They're pretty interesting aircraft.
The Me262 not only didn't was even nearly to won the war, it failed to make any significative difference.
A great leap forward, but they drank a lot of fuel and had a limited range of flight. Also needed to take off from a cement runway so they used the Autobahn. Armed with rockets and piloted with experienced pilots they had a seven to one kill ratio!
Bugatti 100P.
An incredible design that deserves some love.
Everytime he claims "X plane/project could've turned the tides for the Germans" it feels like a Werhaboo with no understanding of the immense manpower and material difference between the Axis and Allies. "Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics" Gen. Bradley
And smart people understand that the idea of air war change fundamentally if the R4M, a cheap easy rocket is developed in 1940.
Then the yankeeaboos explain to me how the allies bomb the german production and transport system, the german cities... :D
THAT is the wonderweapon you need to change ww2.
With it every german plane can kill easily the allied bombers... think about this:
say in 1942 you want to bomb a german areal but know, if you try to do so you loose 90% of your bombers in any mission you fly and your enemy loose 1/3 of their planes to OTL.
Why? because the germans no longer need to put tons of HEAVY 30mm-guns on their planes... even the Me109F can now easily kill heavy bombers without getting into the allied defence fire :D
What in the FH is a werhaboo? Get off the internet dude
Fun fact: This plane was the inspiration for the Gloster meteor jet(AKA the First ever Allied jet. made to Combat the V1)
Pilot in Me-262: Ah these lovely fighters are going to win the war!
Hitler: I WANT BOMBERS! NAI NAI NAI (7:53)
Great to see this channel blow up, just two things in this particular vid got me.
As far as I know you don't pronounce aircraft names as one word, you pronounce each letter.
For example you wouldn't call an FA-18 a 'fah eighteen' same for Me or He.
secondly, 6:51 Imminent, not intimate lol
I think he does that because it’s part of the name, kind of like Su-37 or Mi-8. F/A is pronounced “eff a”because it’s a designation for Fighter/Attack.
Also like maybe it’s something with German and Russian where the first letters of the company get thrown in the name
@@Aiophgy as far as i know, the only reason Russian planes names are pronounced whole, has to do with the Cyrillic language, where they pronounce Acronyms as words. like the PPSh, the russians would call it something closer to "Papesho" or "PaPashaw". the actual russian spelling is ППШ (Still PPSh) but the Ш is an english Sh.
@@mitchelljakubka Agree - for example, I've never heard anybody pronounce the FW-190 as the "fuhwuh-190". Also, please, please, please, people who make videos about WW2 and Germany, for the love of god, learn some basic German pronunciation!! For example, "Luftwaffe" is pronounced "looft-vahfeh". The issue is, when you mispronounce these things, your credibility plummets. As soon as I hear things pronounced incorrectly, I switch off. It's the same in audio books. I'm amazed at how these authors/narrators don't make the effort to learn the correct pronunciations.
If the European war continued into August 1945, you would have seen Silver Plate B-29s escorted by P80 jets over Germany. And that, would be the end of that.
"There is simply nothing comparable?" - I don't know, the British had jet fighters at a relatively comparable state of development, they were just not desperate enough to put them into frontline action, and wanted to avoid any crashing over enemy territory to be taken apart by the enemy, so mostly used them over British territory defensively, particularly agains V1s, while gaining experience with jet plane handling characteristics without risking their best aces and building up their numbers to a point, where if necessary they would actually matter.
That's the problem with all these Wunderwaffen non-sense. It isn't that the allies didn't have amazing new inventions of their own, sometimes even in the same area, they just didn't have to use prototypes on the frontline, at least later in the war, and what they got from Germany after victory gave them complementary technology that together with their own created that seeming sudden burst in perceived technological capability.
That is true. This channel is mix both truth and bullshit.
Luckily the germans didn't have enough fuel to run these weapons.. and enough steel and metals to build them.....
@@khylebaguingan8211 And enough factories, factory workers, pilots, ground crews, ...
@@autarchprinceps there being bomb everywhere
has anyone noticed that this plane looks like the 737-200
I hate when things say Germany almost could have won the war. The german oil production was absolutely dismal by 1944. Pilots from British and American training were coming in at 400 hours+. New German pilots were coming with 1/4 of that because of fuel saving. They could have produced 9000 of these planes and it would have made zero difference because of fuel and training limitations.
Its not a fun side to study but starting looking at the production numbers in ww2 and unless Germany got a nuke, it would never have ever been in their favor. When reading a higher call I think in 1943 the Luftwaffe was defending Sicily with 17 fighters vs the American and British combined 1000.
Yep and the usual suspects knew this,before they declared war on Germany,they knew that they could never get their hands on enough oil,regardless on what wounderwaffe they came up with.
Germany would had won the war no question if they had beaten the Russians. Lets put it this way: for starters oil would not have been a problem
My favorite quote will always be amateurs talk tactics professionals talk logistics. Worked in logistics during my time as an Airman and work as a Quartermaster now with the Defense Militia. Once Germany stopped getting oil from Romania the party was over for them. Everyone keeps bringing up synthetic oil but I don't see how they could possibly make enough of it to fuel the Wehrmacht.
The Me-262 ran primarily on coal oil... it was developed because of the advantage of switching to available alternative fuels.
@ yes but their training aircraft did not. A pilot must get training to have a chance in the air. The late stage German pilots were not the training they needed.
The treaty of Versailles was completely unfair, no need to “quote on quote” that
That aside, will there be a video on the Yak-41 in the future? It was a soviet VTOL project and even flew. Lockheed later purchased some of the technology used and utilized an improved version of the system in the F-35B.
Yes please, I love this plane.
I want him to also clear up the ideas around people stealing the idea of a engine that turned down.
Fun fact. The ME-262 was never going to work. I didn't want to go into it but not only was it not the first jet but it was a pretty shit jet.
That clip from Inglorious Basterds really made me laugh
Except war is not in the sky. Because earth is flat.
Adolf Galland described flying the Me 262 as "though an angel were pushing."
Not flying, but instead described the engines with this sentence, because he saw no prop and only a high pitched sound was all the noise unlike pistons which vibrated and sounded loud throughout the flight.
Hitler was always shooting himself in the foot.... truly many times MANY ways... THIS WAS NO COINCIDENCE.....
IMO the first fighter jet ever was the coolest fighter jet ever.
Cough cough f22 raptor.
@@barefootbreezy6983 Cough cough F35C with Chrome Mirror Infrared Coating
@@thekraken1173 f22 still king of sky
The ME-262 did not nearly win the war. Not even close. It came too late, too few were built and Germany couldn’t sustain them due to the loss of most of their best pilots and their inability to get oil to fuel the jets
Fact is, the ME 262 was introduce too late in the war and was plagued with problems that made it not much of a threat.
A couple of month later the UK introduced their jet fighter and a few weeks after that so did the US
The 262 gets all the press solely because it was the first operational jet fighter
It's not just the first operational jet fighter. It was the engine type they used. The Americans and Brits had the Centrifugal Jet engine. The Germans on the other hand had the Axial-Flow jet engine that we use today.
It was at the end of the war. The Germans were low on resources and definitely did not have access to all the necessary metals to improve the jet engines. Despite the short comings it proved to be an amazing fighter plane with a kill ratio that was actually good.
Hitlers insistence on using it as a bomber essentially handicapping the jet and lack of good pilots because of attrition sealed the fate.
Also the German jet engine design is what we use in modern jets not the British design.
@@presidenteden6498 Adolf Galland was completely wrong then.
2:35 you forgot to say that with every update comes new portion of leaked classivied miliatry files
Props for showing footage from the “Red tails” movie
nearly won hardly anything
Please add a link to the interview of Hanna Reitsch; she was a Me 262 test pilot, and the first woman to fly a jet aircraft. Her first hand description of her first test flight, "The speed was absolutely intoxicating!"
remarkable woman, demonized because you know why
@@jgunther3398 It's possible to acknowledge accomplishments without endorsing the agenda. Some people can't separate the two.
Zeigt keine Gnade!
Came here just to laugh at the title and dip.
Please consider doing a P51 video!
Such legend needs recognition haha
Miss allocated resources, by virtue of which it lost them the war, same goes for the tiger and its terrible reliability, weight and resource demands.
The video title is a clickbait. Me262 couldn't win the war.
Well it says nearly so technically right :D
The first Jet engines were horrible. They were not yet reliable. The 262 couldn't go with out major failures every 25 hours. The meterials science and manufacturing techniques had yet to be perfected to be able to make this jet utilized in a war.
Always great to see a new video 🙂
By the time the Me 262 came into production, the German manufacturing capabilities were in shambles. And these early generation jet engines needed to be completely rebuilt practically every other time they were flown. Lack of Jet fuel and experienced pilots were an issue by that time as well.
This is first jet fighter plane.This is one of a great technology at that time
"The first time I saw a jet, I shot it down."
-Chuck Yeager
So what?
This is the quote of a man who did what?
The german jets were no ÜBER-weapons... but they mean you cannot defend your bombers, esp. if these jets come 2 years earlier and esp. if the R4M-rockets come in 4 years earlier...
Just think about it.
@@steffenjonda8283Try saying all that garbage without crying, Steffi 😂
The title is so misleading. It should be "The Nazi super plane that was too late and by far not good enough to even make a slight upward dent in the rapid loss of the war".
Nearly won the war? Against formations of 1,000 bombers and 700 escort fighters?
Great videos. I love all your vids and especially the ones on current and non prototype aircrafts. Also amazing models. Everything is great about your channel.
Btw, a quick question about the War thunder sponsor, how long does it last and does it activate right after you download the game?
Thank you for being a viewer.
For Wathunder the deal is always ongoing for new players.
The Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighter is a world's first, It's second place is the Gloster Meteor British fighter plane.
I have the squadron version in war thunder and it’s quite good against propeller aircraft pilots but you mostly fight Cold War jets and even stuff like mig 15s and F-86 Sabres that’s are better than the 262 in most ways
US engineers considered jet engine fighters as early as 1939 but planes such as the Lockheed T-33 and Bell P-59 were cancelled for the development of more traditional prop fighters which were less expensive, dependable and could be mass produced and these projects were defunded and canceled. This strategy proved to be wise. British engineers did develop the Gloster Meteor jet fighter which saw WW2 action focusing on the war at their doorstep defending their coast. It did not see action in Europe.
I love these analyses and history of a vehicle keep it up. P.S can ya do one on the JF-17?
5:09 Credits for you man for not censoring the Nazi Swastika for realism purposes, i feel really immersed and could totallt picture what it lookz like had it been used effectively
There's no way it could've changed the outcome of the war
At no point did this plane "nearly" win the war. It didn't even prolong it a day.
The Allies too had their jet fighters. The British had the Gloster Meteors and the US had the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Stars. They were not as good as the Me262 but the Allies could always manufacture many times more than the Germans if the Me262 ever became a genuine threat. In any case, the Germans ran out of fuel and experienced pilots by that stage of the war.
"not as good as the Me 262", really?, did those planes lost parts mid air (including their engines), exploded in flames for no reason (engine burnout and internal fuel lines rupture due to vibration) and killed more of their pilots than the enemy?, because that is the track record of the 262, the plane was so poorly constructed and so unreliable that every time someone took of in it there was a 60/40 chance of them not coming back due to the plane crashing or exploding out of the blue.
Not to mention the severe lack of resources to produce them in kind-off reliable forms which meant parts of the plane been replaced by wood in the late stages of the war.
@@PointReflex Allied jets were no match for Me-262... The Gloster Meatbox was so bad it only killed british pilots in WW2, it would continue killing RAF pilots, 450 were killed by the worst jet aircraft in RAF history.
Half of the P-80s in service crashed and the American jet remained grounded for the remainder of the war.
Did you recently update your graphics? They look great!
It was fast that's it, everthing else was crap . Reliability, availability and it had huge losses.
Yeah, back to awesome German pronunciation! :D
the fact that 1400 were built and couldn't make a significant difference is amazing .. you'd think that massing them would have had a big impact on the bomber runs ...
Wow 😳, also German Engineering
Germans sure are good at making hot expanding gas become hot and start expanding.
"What is that?"
"What the hell was that?"
"It went by like we we're standing still!"
M.E. or Me? Saying it as an acronym rather than intitalisation sounds weird.
Great production!
In Messerschmitt the double-s in Messer is pronounced exactly like in the word mess.
The sch in schmitt is pronounced like the sh in short or ship.
You did it right a couple of times and wrong a couple of others.
Cheers,
Johannes
The title is a sensationalist misnomer. With approximately only 500 unverifiable kills to its name (German pilots just claimed what they liked), versus the enormous cost of the design and development, and constant replacement of those engines, added to an unknown number of losses to its own pilots, due to engine malfunction, lack of pilot training, and kills by the allies, the title is only a fantasy, probably based on lots of ifs and buts, that had circumstances been different, It would all have been much more fantastic than it was, and we can all have those moments. However, its best to live in reality, than through garish comics........
Couldn't said it better. Nearly won the war😂
Imagine someone flexing on you with their car then you pull out one of these lol.
At 0:41 the radio chatter is actually German artillery call from war thunder
00:45 - it has finally happened!!!!! An English history documentary that correctly pronounces "Messerschmitt!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!
You have given me back hope in humanity 🥰😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩
please do he162 video about the ejection seat it had
0:42 No, it wasn't the first jet fighter. The Gloster Meteor had it's maiden flight in 1941, when the Me-262 was still a propeller driven proof of concept. It wouldn't be jet powered until 1942.
You could perhaps argue it was the first *operational* jet fighter.
Why are you putting scare quotes around "unfair"? The Treaty of Versailles absolutely was unfair, deliberately so. The Allied Powers' eagerness to punish Germany for WWI led directly to the rise of the Nazi party.
Nearly won the war lol. You daft?
Germany could never had won the war, and this plane did not "nearly" win it
Wrong about the first part. Right about the second.
The last surviving jet is in the South African war museum.
Good weapon... Problem is very few are made ,and lack of resources hinders there production.. Even if took down hundreds of bombers ,the Allies can easily replace there losses
Imagine saying I own a jet. And it's nazi
@@lemster101 well everyone will frown saying someone has a Nazi jet. But without Nazis. Alot of the stuff we take for granted today wouldn't of been made or implemented. Or used on the scale it's used today. We have to give props to the Nazis for what they did in advancing technology. And hey. It's the first operation jet and it's pretty badass.
This plane basically is the real life MS-14 Gelgoog from Gundam
"Near the end of WW2"
First flight: 1942
Military Aviation History did a video some time ago about that "it must be a bomber" and its not as clear cut as often portrayed. Germany was so short on airframes that all newly built fighters had to have fighter-bomber capability. Jets and props alike.
it was German fighter, nazi political party had no aircraft manufacturing capabilities
No , not even close .