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To me, the greatest part of this movie is that when Kyle Reese was wondering what Sarah was thinking of at that exact moment the picture was taken. Turns out she was thinking of Kyle. Lovers lost beyond time.
No she wasn't, she wasn't thinking about him at that time because she didn't meet him until he went back to the past. And Kyle only became John's dad when you got sent back to the past. We never find out who originally was going to be his dad before Kyle went back to the past
That's a good catch/point that I never thought about.
@@antoineporche-rideaux4841She 100% was thinking about Kyle. She gives this very pic to John to GIVE to Kyle - the reason she did this is because she was already pregnant with John and knew that he would need to give it to Kyle so he'd go back in time and fall in love with her. It's really screwy because it creates like 10 paradoxes but that's the logic behind the film
@@antoineporche-rideaux4841there was no "original" dad. It's a loop.
Quantum Entanglement
You want to know what is even freakier? Having watched this movie when it was new in theaters, and now 40 years later, watching kids who weren't even born then react to it on a computer network :) .
...while we celebrate the birth of generative AI and Chat GPT...
A.I. is here ....that's what scares me
And if they use TikTok, then the Chinese goverment's digital surveillance apparatus, Skynet, is tracking them.
Yikes, I love and am afraid of this comment.
When H.S. grads who were joining the work force weren't even born when I graduated H.S. .... is when I realized my age.
The scariest part about the Terminator is how non-malicious it actually is despite being a ruthless killer robot. It isn't evil in the common sense of the word. It's cold and merciless, but it isn't purposefully sadistic or cruel. It doesn't feel anything, it doesn't even hate us. If it kills, it's because you're a target or because you're directly in it's way. It's a machine programmed to do a job, that's all.
@D3ADLYSNIP3RZ - welcome to the world of "spciopaths" and forensic psychiatrists.
Yeah, some people are just like that, and are existing out there.
Because the terminator is supposed to be a machine. Machines don't have feelings.
That's true, the only people he kills are those who interfere in the mission to terminate Sarah Connor.
Until T2 where the T1000 seems to toy with his victims a lot more
It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with...
Matt is actually a really nice guy. The screenplays expanded a bit in him. Basically he's a jock gym bunny and Ginger is a sorority girl type and they have a very kinky relationship but Sarah is like a little sister to both of them and they both look out for her.
i never had a problem with his character in the movie, they were blowing everything he did way out of proportion.
@@Jack_80 I've seen other reactors reflexively turn up their nose at Matt when he makes the 'creep' call, but invariably fail to notice Sarah's reaction (or non-reaction) to his whispering. She knows exactly who's calling and isn't bothered by it. What I notice about some reactors in these situations is them taking one bit and react to it devoid of the context, even within the scene.
@@therewasacrookedman5892 i honestly think half of these "first time" reactors are faking never having seen it. somehow nearly every reaction channel has never seen any of the most popular reaction movies, what a huge coincidence.
and these girls supposedly predicting that kyle was the father was strange to me. no other reactor i've seen has predicted that, and these girls seem more stupid than most reactors, lol.
these people are trying to turn watching movies into a full time job, so of course they'll lie and say they've never seen any popular movie if that'll get them more views.
Best bit? Ginger's not even an actress.
@@ericpeckham5709 That's cool. I didn't know that
The Terminator did not start the car by hacking the car's computer. It was the 80's. He tore off the steering column cover and key lock and simply turned the switch.
It's so funny when people think computers have always been in everything. Although, to be fair, microcontrollers and small CPUs were starting to appear at this point at the high end.
"hack into the computer" of a 1984 car. . . sometimes young people make me feel like Dracula, that I have crossed oceans of time.
@@morrislary4576 LOLOLOL
Generation X is to computers as the WW2 generation was to air travel.
@@johnirving5949 We are the generation that have the first true contact with computers(and consoles). My first computer was an AMSTRAD 6128 and almost all of my friends use to have one type of.Mostly Amstrads or commodores.Computers back then was like smartphones today.
Terminator 2 is a classic, but the original really deserves the same level of love. It just has such a unique , gritty feel to it. Plus, it really sells you on the sheer *terror* of the Terminator and how scary it would be to have something this impossibly tough and skilled trying to kill you at all costs.
Part 1 is my favorite. It's scarier, more brutal, and more cold blooded. I like the characters better. Part 2 is just bigger and more cgi. Part 1 all the way. Kyle Reese is the best.
@@ColdBloodedBastardboth are great in their own way:
The 1st movie is a slasher flick with a sci-fi twist
The 2nd movie is an action blockbuster with horror elements thrown in.
@@filipvadas7602 Agree best sequels ever released.
1st movie is clearly the better film.
The fact that Cameron couldn't just throw money around to solve his script problems gives the first movie the edge, or so I've always thought. It's a story stripped to the bare essentials, as all great stories are who first evolved in the oral tradition before being set down in writing : all the superfluous fat has been cut off. T2 also has a real mean streak to it : whereas the death of Ginger is meant to terrify, the killing of John's parents is played entirely for laughs. Too the dozens of people knee-capped by Arnold : har-har so funny! I never liked how the sequel cribs generously from the first one either, featuring an almost beat-for-beat retread of the 3rd act, minus the clever ending. Was it a little on the nose? sure! But setting the climax in a robotics factory invites us to consider that humanity may be the architect of its own demise . . .
William Wisher (officer 1L19!) and Cameron sequestered themselves in a hotel room for two weeks to bang out T2 and it shows; whereas T1 had begun as a fever-induced nightmare (Cameron had gotten extremely sick on the set of, iirc, PIRANHA 2) that he then wrote and polished over a period of months. Fun Fact : Lance Hernriksen was originally cast as the the terminator (they met on PIRANHA 2) since the cyborg is meant to be an INFILTRATION unit after all! Original detailed drawings from Cameron show this and I have to say the dude is a wonderful draftsman.
This is the only movie where the sex scene is absolutely essential to the plot.
I was thinking the same thing......just typical of todays youth who don't appreciate romance and the beauty of love making in order to create life/the hero who defeats the robots! If this movie were made today the human race would be stuffed because heterosexual sex would be banned! 😂🤣
True 😂
@@starbwoy133 There are still plenty of movies with heterosexual sex hardly any with homosexual sex today. Besides in a truly futuristic world maybe humans won't need sex to procreat. Maybe there unborn children are growing in an artificial uterus. Who knows and sex is just for fun. It could still be an exiting story if the parents ahve to prodect the embrio against a Terminator.
Besides the scene has nothing to do with love or romance it's just survival instincts at best because they never had time to actually fall in love with each other and there is no romantic vipe between them at all. And you are basically saying sex is only important if it is creating live not just for fun or for other reasons like saying good bye or enjoying each other before going into battle (other reasons why people have sex with each other in movie) which is pretty conservative.
Yup, John Connor is an impossible-person that only came into existence due to literal timetravel.
Harlan Ellison wrote a short story titled: Soldier From Tomorrow which was later turned into an episode of the tv show The Outer Limits which is said to be an influence on the story of Terminator. Glad you finally got to see this 80s classic. Just goes to show you what a great storyteller like James Cameron can do with a small budget and a lot of imagination.
"I have no mouth, and I must scream" by Harlan Ellison also reminds me about the main story line of Terminator... or vice versa
Harlan Ellison is also an author of at least one Star Trek TOS episodes.
@@klm23.98 And episodes of Babylon 5. But to note, the "Acknowledgement" to Harlon Ellison, was because the idea of the Terminator bore the tiniest passing resemblance to a couple of his stories and the studio was worried he was going to sue them. Harlon Ellison was infamous for suing people for plagiarism on the weakest of grounds
@@weldonwin He threatened to sue, so they wrote in the acknowledgement just to npacify him. But James Cameron always claimed that Harlan Ellison's lawsuit was baseless and harbored deep resentment over the matter. From what I have heard of it (and about Ellison), I can hardly blame him. Ellison was a great writer but a very difficult man to get along with,
James Cameron did not have a small budget ; that was a real robot that they built for the movie with human operated controls hung from a cable from above !
The story goes like this: in or around 1984 someone tells Harlan Ellison that they think the script for The Terminator sounds similar to his script for an Outer Limits episode called “Soldier,” which Ellison had actually adapted from his own short story, “Soldier Out of Time.” And when we say “similar” we mean that the opening sequences of both The Terminator and “Soldier” are aesthetically close enough to give you pause. Both deal with a guy from the future who ends up on some contemporary 20th century streets. In Terminator, this is Reese; in “Soldier,” a guy named Qarlo. What happened next (according to Ellison almost exclusively) was that the production company in question - Hemdale - started avoiding Ellison’s inquires to see a script. Eventually, after sneaking into an advance screening of the film, Ellison determined that there were enough elements of Terminator similar to both “Solider” and to another Outer Limits he wrote, “Demon With a Glass Hand,” to make a case against Terminator director James Cameron and Hemdale Studios.
Most damning, though, was a quote from James Cameron - which was supposed to have appeared in a magazine called Starlog - in which the director gave an interview about The Terminator ahead of its release. When asked where he got the idea from, he said: “I ripped off a few Outer Limits segments.” This sentiment was apparently repeated when a friend of Ellison’s visited the set of the film and Cameron said that he’d “ripped off a few of Ellison’s short stories” to make the script for Terminator. Now, the quote above is NOT in the final interview (I have the physical issue, plus you can read it here), because purportedly, the editors of Starlog were asked (forced?) by one of James Cameron’s assistants to alter the piece before it went to print. Still, it’s widely acknowledged that the studio paid Ellison something in the range of $65,000 as a settlement.
The irony is, Ellison said that the problem wasn't their use of his story, it was the fact that Cameron just assumed it would be okay. Ellison actually said, “He could have had it for free if he’d asked me.” Whether this is true or not isn’t super relevant because Ellison is dead now, but it does give one pause on all sides of the issue.
Say you’ve written a classic short story, one which you think is awesome, and it gets published somewhere notable, and then twenty years later, Rian Johnson or J.J. Abrams is making a big budget movie which contains an opening scene similar to your short story. You’d probably be pissed off too.
Pretty much, but Ellison was also very much like one of those artists that write on classic themes and immediately cry Foul if something with similar premises came out (he had similar feuds with STAR TREK taking scripts from the episodes he wrote and building them up as film adaptations). For me, it's hard to write ANYTHING that's not going to be influenced by something. That's the reason why it's an "Acknowledgement" credit (not saying they literally "Copyright infringed" any actual story, but that the themes are close). Jim Henson did something similar on LABYRINTH when his friend, author Maurice Sendak, claimed it was based off his book OUTSIDE OUT THERE (which included a baby kidnapped and his sister rescuing him), but I feel it was more than the creatures had more similiaries to his WILD THINGS characters.
In the music world this would be vanilla ice and Queen or the Stones and The Verve. Don't know who the last one is? Such a bittersweet symphony that no one knows who they are.
Both "Soldier" and "Demon With A Glass Hand" are worth watching - and reacting to.
And there are indeed Terminator books but were based on the script of the films, the first one from Shaun Hutson who just turned up violence and sex in the originsl script and a second one by Randall Frakes who give a bit more background to some secondary characters
Pretty sure Ellison's short story "I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream" was part of the suit too? A.M. certainly could have inspired Skynet
The Terminator is definitely not just one of the greatest action films, but one of the greatest movies of the 80s! I love Terminator 2: Judgement Day better, but this one holds a special place in my heart.
Also doubles as a solid horror film kinda
same
@@austinlarrimore6542I consider it a slasher film. It has the same tropes, it’s just a futuristic robot instead of a knife wielding slasher
Terminator 2 also holds a special place in my childhood. I saw it in theaters with my Dad and my friend. I have enjoyed all the movies. LOVE this franchise!
@@rjcommentary4580 well slasher is also horror😂
>Gets weirded out by a phonebook
>Puts entire life out on Instagram
Watching tji now just think if they paid for a unlistef phone number the terminator 's job would have been harder by orders of magnitude.
We still use phonebooks here in Austria and about ten years ago even phonepooths got a short revival.
I was thinking the same thing lol
I mean, you don't exactly post your home address and full name on your Instagram. . .
@sarahnadeofpoetry but it's easier than looking up in a phone book by finding associated info including likes & probity habits favorite places
Michael Biehn was the true emotional pivot point in this film. Cameron really selected him well for this film and also for "The Abyss".
michael biehn is my favorite in this film.
also Great in Aliens, even the Rock for the short time he was in that film lol
@@Corvenik1 HECK yah. Biehn in everything he did was almost always a home run. Johnny Ringo... Koffee (Abyss)... Hicks... Anderson--all of 'em! One of the best action stars over multiple generations, and he's never really been *THE* star... and that's OK. If anything, that is what makes him so great. It's the fact that he shines brightly no matter WHAT. :)
Arnold did a lot of training for this role to accurately portray a robot's movement. He spent many hours taking guns apart and putting them back together, even while blindfolded. He also trained himself to aim and shoot guns both left and right handed because a robot would not have a preference. You will definitely love T2, it's highly regarded as one of the best sequels of all time.
t2 isn't nearly as good imo. it's not bad but i much prefer the horror vibe of the original over the action comedy of t2. the first one felt more believable because of the serious tone, all the corny jokes drag 2 down a bit.
I like the way Arnold portrayed a cyborg, but Peter Welled did it so much better in Robocop.
But he screwed up with the fact that he never got used to shooting - and blinked every time he shot.
@@Jack_80 Saw it when it came out and this movie would have been perfect (imo) if it had said it was set in the present and never mentioned any future dates.
You are correct about the two other actors starring in Aliens, but the actor who plays Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) also starred in Aliens as Corporal Hicks. Terminator 2 is very good, and the psychiatrist makes a reappearance in that movie, and the way they did it was very clever. The idea was from the director and co-writer James Cameron.
Honestly I was surprised they recognized Bill but not Michael.
Corporal Hicks’ famous line from _Aliens_ was “Game over man, game over!”
@@burnethedragon7065 Same haha
@@isaackellogg3493 No, that was Hudson, Paxton's character.
@@mraxlrose2959 my mistake
I giggled a little when y’all said “Reece and Sarah have managed to dodge every single bullet” right before the scene when Sarah has to field dress Kyle 😂
That's what is typically known as 'plot armour'. 🙂
The point still stands.
My favorite thing about this movie… Kyle said that he had the photo of Sarah and always wondered what she was thinking about when it was taken. She was thinking about him. That gets me every time.
And Matt didn’t do anything wrong except dirty talk the wrong girl by mistake. Cut him some slack.
He's trying an unarmed fight against a killing machine from the future to save his GF and all they see is toxic masculinity. The programming has worked perfectly.
@@Toolness1 Todd was trying to defend himself and someone he cared about. If defending yourself and your "family"/friends is "toxic masculinity" then I wonder how much further we have to go before I decide to sit back and "watch the world burn". (also, he had no idea it was a machine)
This is the 1st time i noticed it (during this reaction), a moment ago.
They recognized every other actor from Aliens, but did they finally recognize Reese, or did I miss it? Dude's an awesome actor and never gets enough credit.
Plus the main Navy Seal in The Abyss.
Michael Beihn is awesome. I've always thought he should be a bigger star, but he seems happy to just take interesting roles and doesn't seem bothered about fame. Comes off as a very chill dude.
@@StCerberusEngel Alcoholism.
@@anitam7547 Yeah, I know. He's sober these days as far as I know.
I also didn't recognize Michael Biehn after having watched both movies almost back to back but I did immediately spot Bishop and the Game Over guy. I think it's because the other two have more distinct facial features whereas Michael Biehn is more traditional handsome looking guy, which makes him a bit more generic.
I love the "he's a robot, he can hack into the computer". This very nit picky so don't take it too seriously but cars didn't have computers then. Just made me chuckle and realize how old I am.
Feeling a bit... Oldsmobile?
I'm getting tf outta here.
@@pablom-f8762 I laughed way too hard at that. Also, Olds Cutlass was my first car
First car with a computer was in 1968 though, this movie came out in 1984
lol me too
Yeah back in the day not stealing cars was kinda on the honor system if descriptions of how easy it was to hotwire them are accurate.
its a classic for reasons =] ; Linda, Michael, Arnold, and Paul absolutely kill it in their roles ; Reese and Sarah are such great characters , you can absolutely feel their existential fear ; and ofc the paradox , The Terminator is basically a love story mixed with chronological sci-fi , just amazing stuff all around
Good catch on the actors that Cameron later also used on Aliens, but EVERYBODY misses that Michael Biehn (Kyle Reese) was also Corporal Dwayne Hicks (Ripley's love interest) in Aliens too! He deserved more success in his career.
I'm really impressed that Stella knows about Harlan Ellison! HE was an excellent writer, but a far better editor, and thanks to his "Dangerous Visions" trilogy of anthologies of short stories, mixing stories of young and new writers in the same collection as established writers, I discovered so many amazing authors. He was also a media and entertainment critic, and an incredibly interesting guest at conventions. He mentored a lot of younger writers over the years, both with workshops, and close mentoring.
You might like to know that the final Anthology book "The Last Dangerous Visions" was completed about 2 years ago.
Because Ellison had sadly passed, his family asked J. Michael Straczynski (long time friend and collaborator) to finish it.
know ellison was very influential though personally he was a combative jerk who grabbed women's breasts in public and thought it was funny⚛
Hey Ellison, stop stealin my moves!
@@simonoleary9264 As you probably know, Ellison and Straczynski collaborated on the sci-fi show Babylon 5. I'm watching several reactors to that series on YT and Patreon, and I always recommend it for long-term reaction content.
@@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd Yea, James Cameron HATED him and only put that acknowledgement in the 1986 VHS release and later after the studio forced him to as part of a settlement with Ellison after a plagiarism lawsuit. I told a bit more of the story in a separate comment.
Interesting that they recognised Bill Paxton and Lance Henriksen as Hudson and Bishop from Aliens, but didn’t notice Michael Biehn was also in the film as Corporal Hicks. 😄
Excellent point, man!
9:13 also, both movies were done by James Cameron.
@@jamesmarciel5237 They saw his name in the opening credits.
Brian Thompson was also there.
@@busterzigler7530 They're referring to actors from Aliens (1986).
“How did he start the car? Did he hack into the computer?”
Man I feel old
I mean can you blame em for thinking that? Even in the 80s cars had computer systems and circuitry to fuck with
I'm 18 and it makes me feel old
This film frightened the hell out of me when it first came out. I was only about 7 and my friend's big brother let us watch it. I was convinced that a terminator would come back looking for all the females with my name in the phone directory 😱😂
Fascinating to observe how dramatically men-women romantic interaction has changed since the time when this movie was made. I'm ancient enough to have seen TERMINATOR in theatres and it was perfectly normal to us at the time that two people who trust each other (literally rely on each other to survive,) after traumatic events, on the run, and obviously attracted to each other would feel a deep need to connect and BE ALIVE - in fact create life. The film makes a not-very-subtle contrast between the cold, logical, unfeeling horror of the machine versus our impulsive, living-for-the-moment, nature driven humanity. Also: nudity in movies didn't make us uncomfortable . . . An overall very interesting social study, this reaction channel! Thank you for it!
I found their reaction to that part very weird. Like they don't get that humans are wired to want to have sex, that humans can get physiological and mental benefits from it. The scene happens when the characters felt some relative safety, not during a firefight.
That’s because they’ve been taught their whole life that being human is problematic
That isn't a thing. That was never a thing, that was something the movies invented because a movie needs to keep up the pace of its story, and it was just accepted as fact.
@@cidfacetious3722 No, being human is fine. Being a human like YOU is problematic.
@@ecyor0 What isn't "a thing?" Sex? I assure you, movies did not invent the notion of people having sex as a comfort mechanism.
I love how they attributed that many of the same actors in this film being the same ones in the Aliens films as "the 80's just using the same actors", rather than the fact it was the same director and that the two films were only two years apart lol. James Cameron is known for bringing a lot of the actors he likes back into future projects. Michael Biehn in the Abyss, Terminator 1, and Aliens (Kyle Reese is Hicks in Aliens). Bill Paxton in Aliens, True Lies, Ghosts of the Abyss, Titanic, and Terminator. Arnold in Terminator 1, T2, and True lies. Sigourney Weaver in Aliens and Avatar 1 and 2. Kate Winslet in Titanic and Avatar 2, etc.
Michael Biehn was almost not on Aliens , he replaced James Remar from 48 hours
Sigourney is in Avatar 2? I thought that she died in the first one.
@WrathOfGrapesN7 She did die. I don't want to spoil it if you haven't already watched the second film, but she has a scene where her character, Grace, comes back in a vision. She also voices Kiri, who is one of the main characters.
Dang it, I forgot Kyle and Hicks share the same actor
Some directors prefer to use the same actors over and over. David Lynch is another one.
im glad you pointed out how good the opening credits were. This is such a great movie, i actually watch this more then i do T2 (yes i know T2 is one of the best sequels out there)
But the original terminator has such a sci fi/horror vibe to it along with the 80s synth music and the 80s hair! cant beat it.
Classic movie and a great reaction.
T1>T2
I love how much yall appreciate the soundtrack/score. It's so good!
A Point to remember in this film, is when Sarah asks Kyle, "So it's from the Future?" and he responds, "One Possible Future, I'm not good at tech stuff."
So thus there are multiple futures (timelines) and this becomes important in future films.
It's great that you two recognized Bill Paxton (Hudson) as well as the actor who played Bishop the android from Aliens, however for whatever reason people never recognize Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) played Corporal Dwayne Hicks in Aliens as well. James Cameron likes to reuse actors he has worked with in the past as he knows what he can expect from their acting. Bill Paxton was also in Titanic as was the actress also from Aliens who played Vasquez was in Titanic as well, also watch for her in Terminator 2 Judgment Day.
Don't forget Bill Paxton in Twister also and Michael Biehn played Johnny Ringo in Tombstone.
@nealblue6413 Michael Biehn was also in The Abyss also a James Cameron directed movie.
@@nealblue6413 - and let's not forget his recent role in Mandalorian (Season 2, Episode 5).
Also the previous role in "The Abyss" (worth watching too as this is also a James Cameron movie).
@bradbarter8314 - what is more interesting, that one of the Terminators (in the scene when Reese is remembering the past, when he is sitting with Sarah, in some kind of tunel, dogs are barking, and the Terminator is inside the compound....). The "Terminator" in that scene is Franco Columbu, a long time friend of Arnold, back when they all started in US (even when they were working as bricklayers, and doing bodybuilding contents).
@@tannhauser5399 Yes, Franco was Arnold's long time friend and training partner. He won Mr Olympia the next year both times Arnold retired. Arnold won 1970-75. Franco won in 1976. Arnold came back and won again in 1980. Franco won in 1981.
The Harlan Ellison acknowledgement at the end is because of an episode "Soldier" of a TV Series "Outer Limits" from 1964 that was written by Ellison. That episode also has 2 soldiers coming from the future and Ellison alleged that The Terminator borrowed some of his story, although the similarities are very remote realistically. Despite James Cameron's objections the company that produced Terminator settled with Ellison to acknowledge him at the end and an undisclosed amount.
What'll really bake your noodle is when you realize that John Connor was,....a) born before his father Kyle,.....and b) older than his father when he sent him back meaning his father never got to live as old as he was when he first met him.
Also, you have to wonder if John basically played matchmaker and put the pieces in place in convincing Kyle to "volunteer" to go back in time for the mission (by, like, maybe giving him the photo of his mom)........knowing that he had not other choice because if Kyle doesn't go back in time, John is never born and never exists.
In other words, John only exists because of a decision he makes, and in reality he shouldn't exist at all.
He's a literal walking talking Bootstrap Paradox.
The actor that played Kyle Reese was also in "Aliens." 18:29 If you're afraid that Sarah's character is reduced to only being relevant by giving birth, don't worry, that's not the character at all. You'll see in the sequel. 👍
Matt did die defending his girl and deserves a little credit.
For the record, being a mother is the most important job in the world
I couldn’t think of a nice way to say this.
It's so funny to watch people's reactions about this movie. As a girl growing up interested in robots I have always been a fan of Terminator since the very beginning. Yes my dad let me watch it. I remember renting it every time we went to the movie store. Yes this is back when there were movie stores.
There was an episode of The Outer Limits called 'Soldier' that was loosely based on a short story by Harlan Ellison called 'Soldier from Tomorrow'. They were obliged to add the acknowledgement to his works after he filed suit against the producers for plagiarism of the episode. James Cameron flatly denied plagiarism.
The best part of the 80s is that movies of this quality would come out one after another and another seemingly without end and a trip to the theater was always special. Now, I would never go. What a shame the era of quality craftsman ship in film is over.
Yeah, even the 80s B movies and made for TV movies were better than the crapola they make these day's.
so weird seeing young women watch 80s movies and appear offended by everything. This was how things were back then and it was better that way.
THese girls have no idea anymore how important motherhood is.....
Because the movie makers knew that stop-motion would give the ‘Terminator’ skeleton a slow, jerky movement, they purposefully show it limping and dragging a damaged leg/foot when it begins to chase them. Otherwise it might not have been much of a chase.
Have you ever had that nightmare where you are being chased by a slow, lumbering monster, but even though you are running as fast as you can, the monster is always somehow right behind you, and just about to catch you? The limping, stop-motion Terminator reminds me of that.
T1: "Nobody goes home, nobody else comes through; it's just him and me."
T2, 3, Genysis, Dark Fate, and the Sarah Connor Chronicles: "🤣"
I agree it was the overrated T2 that started all that though at least 3 rectified it by closing the loop. As best has you could anyways since T2 really messed up the story.
The craziest part to me is that she's never seen an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie...as someone who grew up & still does love Arnie, that's actually really exciting!!!! Arnie has so many epic movies from Total Recall to True Lies to the Predator to Conan & so many more but T2 is definitely my favorite...honestly one of the best movies ever made😎😎😎
Yeah that's bizarre to hear. Very hard to believe. I grew up watching all those Arnold films too.
Oh man, I must've missed that part. Damn, way to make a guy feel old! Arnold movies were my childhood.
Bill Paxton is the only actor to be killed by an Alien, a Terminator and a Predator.
Lance Henrickson as well.
If you do check out Terminator 2, ignore the other 4 sequels and instead check out the tv series Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, which is a continuation of T2. It handles the expansion of lore way better than the films post-T2 and the only reason it didnt get more than 2 seasons was executive meddling. In terms of other sci-fi robot movies. I do recommend the director's cut of Robocop
T3 sucks, but the very ending is really good. Too bad the rest of the movie kinda sucks, particularly their choice for Terminator.
Well to me 1 and 2 are diamonds 3 had good ideas but it needed more polishing 4 i pass because of memory of Anton Yelchin. But the rest is garbage
Yes, yes, yes! The TV show is awesome, and does not get the love it deserves.
Love the first 2. 3rd and 4th was my guilty pleasure. and the rest when I'm bored.
i just have to come in defence of T4. Not just the actors did a great job but i really loved the question they made "whay makes us human"?and the post apocalyptic world (USA) they created, T4 is the best of the sequels
It's so fun the costumes contexts. I live in Brasil and my parents showed me those movies (Alien, Robocop, Terminator...) when I was like 8-12 y.o. and I just loved them right away. My first trauma with Sci-fi was with Species from 95, but the other were just like inspirational. And those female figures like Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley were just my strong female symbolism at the time until now. Can't wait to see what you'll feel after T2
Just wanted the say the music in this movie absolutely slaps. The small part that plays as Sarah and Kyle escape the police station. Oo I can listen to that for hours
Love that piece!
So 80s.
Hacking the computer to start an 80s car LOL
The police weren’t responding to a call when they confronted Reese after he stole the bum’s pants. They were just on a routine patrol. Besides, Arnold killed those guys up at Griffith Observatory and it looked like Reese may have landed near downtown L.A. They’re about 6 miles apart from each other.
Your reaction to the ol' school phone books was funny. I mean, I get it, but truthfully you can find out more about a person's life these days on the internet
Btw, back in the day, you did have the option to request that your name and address not appear in the phone book
I dug up some old college mail the other day from the 80s. My social security number was right there on the address label after my name.
Yeah, I dont what its like in america, but if I search for someones name or phone number on my country's yellow pages website I get their adress as well, and its much quicker than looking them up in a physical phone book.
@@Carrot421911no the book! Is quicker if you don't have a computer
@@Helgrimr I think it's far more wild that I can google any American's name plus vague details (approx. age/area) and in seconds get their address, phone number, their arrest record and worse info
It's so weird watching zoomers get uncomfortable or offended during sex scenes and not understand human emotion. Kinda sad watching the results of kids raised on the internet.
Lovely touch that Kyle says he always wondered what Sarah was thinking about in the photo - but it turns out she was thinking about him....
the girls react series is so good! i love seeing them react to these classics
The Terminator was influenced heavily by two episodes of an old TV series called The Outer Limits, a black and white series from the early 1960s. Those episodes were called "Soldier" and "The Demon with the Glass Hand". Both episodes were written by Harlan Ellison. When Ellison saw The Terminator, he was so convinced he had been plagiarized he threatened James Cameron with a Lawsuit. After a short time, a gentleman's agreement was reached: Ellison received a cash payment and his name was added to the credits.
BTW those two Outer Limits episodes are definitely worth a watch, if you can find them.
I'm so glad that was handled as well as it was. There are so few new ideas left on this world, so I won't even take sides, and it think it's nice they worked things out without warring over a story. I mistake Ellison and Bradbury so much. I thought you were talking about the author of Somewhere A Band Is Playing for a second.
From what I heard Cameron said he never saw those episodes until later when Ellison threatened to sue. Said that the Terminator was inspired by a fever dream he had and that the connections to Ellison's work was coincidental. Of course its impossible to know the truth.
Personally I believe it was a clear case of inspiration, and dare I say reinterpretation, but I'm glad they decided to recognize his work as well.
"(It's important to note that, contrary to many claims at internet science fiction and movie sites, Demon with a Glass Hand absolutely was not one of the stories they were alleging that was plagiarized by The Terminator. Indeed, aside from the fact that Demon with a Glass Hand and The Terminator both have protagonists who travel backward in time, there are no substantive similarities worth noting. Also, in the interview with Prisoners of Gravity, Harlan Ellison specifically states that Soldier, and not Demon with a Glass Hand, was the only story plagiarized. So any claims that Demon with a Glass Hand was a direct source for The Terminator are bogus and any evidence used to compare them are the result of critics grasping for similarity straws.)"
In the 2009 book the Futurist, Cameron finally vented on the issue: "It was a nuisance suit that could easily have been fought. I expected Hemdale and Orion to fight for my rights, but they abandoned me. The insurance company told me if I didn't agree to the settlement, they would come after me personally for the damages if they lost the suit. Having no money at the time, I had no choice but to agree to the settlement. Of course there was a gag order as well, so I couldn't tell this story but now I frankly don't care. It's the truth. Harlan Ellison is a parasite who can kiss my ass"
@danielmunoz1275 in an interview with Starlog, Cameron said that he'd "ripped of a bunch of Outer Limits episodes" to develop the script. The quote was redacted from the printed interview, but the interviewer's notes still exist.
The "really cool warrior lady" gets my vote for most badass female character ever (possibly tied with Ellen Ripley). Can't wait 'til you two react to T2.
Definetively EVEN with Ripley. Side by side, shoulder to shounder.
Ripley was a badass from the start. Sarah Connor had a progression from an airhead to a female Terminator.
@@lewisnerT-X has nothing on Sarah Connor
She was never an airhead. What film did you watch? She was just this normal girl in her mid 20s in the first movie.@@lewisner
@@Andy2481 I saw the Terminator in a cinema the first week it was released. Do you not understand that people can have different opinions to you about a fictional character ?
28:24 - "He's spooky looking.", "This animatronic is very unpleasant to look at." - At that point in the film, its skin is rotting, which is why there's a fly on its face, and why the maintenance guy smelled something. Terminators need some small support systems to keep their flesh alive, such as a pump to circulate blood. If that gets damaged from gunfire, its outer covering dies and starts to decay.
31:17 - "Be gentle!" - When Sarah was screwing the cap on the bomb, Reese told her to be gentle because he was worried about her causing a spark between the metal cap and the metal pipe. Roughly shoving them in a fabric bag can't cause a spark, so there's no chance of accidentally setting them off.
Something that EVERYONE overlooks: After the truck blows up, a burning figure staggers out and collapses on a bare patch of ground. A few seconds later, the terminator rises up from UNDER some debris. Did Cameron do this on purpose and not care that it was a continuity goof, or was there originally meant to be someone else in the truck?
Blade Runner is a must see. It's by Ridley Scott who also did Alien and while the stories have nothing to do with each other he's said they take place in the same universe. Interesting fact: parts of Blade Runner were shot in the Bradbury Building which also served as the location for "Demon With a Glass Hand," one of the Outer Limits episodes by Harlan Ellison that inspired The Terminator.
Blade Runner has the best visuals of the 80s sci-fi movies and it has a modern sequel. But if you prefer the 80s look, you could go for Dark City.
The idea for the terminator came from James Cameron having a fever dream of a metal skeleton emerging from flames, what I find really interesting is this was his 3rd film and its still such a classic
Lolll, he copied the movie from Harlan Ellison don't kid yourself.
This was his first film. It would have been Piranha 2, but he was fired from that film before completion.
@@Nonamam Dude, don't be a dick.
I love this movie to death. It’s such a classic. That said, there’s one scene that makes me role my eyes. 5:48, no gun store would EVER have boxes of live ammunition out on the counter like that. Would NEVER happen. All ammo is kept under lock and key until it’s purchased, to prevent exactly what happened in that scene.
Ah, the Eighties! When we had REALLY GOOD MOVIES that weren't more than two hours long, generally. So, yeah, relationships tended to happen quickly. Being a child of the times, your reactions to the retro technology (phones and telephone books, especially) made me smile. Overall, I enjoyed your video a lot. Thanks for doing it! :)
Part two is one of the best action movies of all time. 😎👍
I actually think this movie was better.
🤢👎
@@MarciaVandergriff this was a sci-fi thriller that made you think. T2 was a sci-fi action with pew pew and booms.
I like the theatrical release much more than the extended release
@@kennethmiyasaki I like the happy ending for Terminator 2. It was more hopeful.
The good guy Kyle Reese in this film was also the soldier Hicks in Aliens 2 who was the romance for Ripley. Actor is Michael Biehn
He's also in The Rock
The Harlan Ellisson thing, was that there was a similarity between Terminator and two sci-fi short-films (TV-episodes) from The Outer Limits, one being "Soldier" where two warring soldiers get sent back in time from the future to the present. The other being "Demon With A Glass Hand" which was about a cyborg/android being sent back in time due to a war in the future, having to save mankind.
It's so fun watching people giggle when his says "I'll be back". Not a person on this planet who hasn't heard that somewhere and now they get to connect it to where it comes from.
I love this movie, and it was my mom's favorite movie. The sequel is just as amazing. I can't wait to see you're reactions on it!!
Sarah Connor is such an amazing lead, Linda Hamilton is an amazing actress. She goes from being your average 80's person just living her life to one of the most bad ass women in movie history. Between her and Ellen Ripley, they are top tier action icons.
Harlan Ellison said that while he liked the movie. He felt that it was based on two episodes of the outer limits that he wrote. Those being Soldier, and the demon with a glass hand which probably explains why he was mentioned at the end credits
And because Ellison sued Cameron.
@@johnglue1744 that too
"(It's important to note that, contrary to many claims at internet science fiction and movie sites, Demon with a Glass Hand absolutely was not one of the stories they were alleging that was plagiarized by The Terminator. Indeed, aside from the fact that Demon with a Glass Hand and The Terminator both have protagonists who travel backward in time, there are no substantive similarities worth noting. Also, in the interview with Prisoners of Gravity, Harlan Ellison specifically states that Soldier, and not Demon with a Glass Hand, was the only story plagiarized. So any claims that Demon with a Glass Hand was a direct source for The Terminator are bogus and any evidence used to compare them are the result of critics grasping for similarity straws.)"
In the 2009 book the Futurist, Cameron finally vented on the issue: "It was a nuisance suit that could easily have been fought. I expected Hemdale and Orion to fight for my rights, but they abandoned me. The insurance company told me if I didn't agree to the settlement, they would come after me personally for the damages if they lost the suit. Having no money at the time, I had no choice but to agree to the settlement. Of course there was a gag order as well, so I couldn't tell this story but now I frankly don't care. It's the truth. Harlan Ellison is a parasite who can kiss my ass"
@@Henrik_Holst thanks for the clarification
What strikes me seeing it in condensed form like this is how many lines of dialogue have a double meaning or are foreshadowing. Sarah after her date stands her up, "I'll live." Ginger's answering machine, "Haha. Fooled you. You're talking to a machine." The movie is packed with clever moments like this.
This is one of my fav movies growing up in the 80's, i was born in 1980 and my parents owned a video shop back when VHS was the format and I watched everything, almost and this is definitely in the top ranked best 80s of all time....Im amazed sometimes when I see the younger generations never have seen or experienced these movies, makes me feel old and having different perspectives, also shows how media influences us as a species.
I could watch Stella react to paint drying and I would be locked in. Keep reacting! Great comments. And IMHO, Stella if you were in the 80s you would have rocked Big Hair!
What I am enjoying most is the two of you discussing "old school" vs now. How did we live without cell phone? A phone book? Yep, we could actually look up people's phone numbers in order to call them. How can you do that now if you don't have their number? And we actually talked to each other. I appreciate seeing this through the eyes of the young. It's kind of funny and sad in a nostalgic sense. Glad you enjoyed the movie too. 🙂
You had to either memorize numbers or keep a book with numbers and addresses written down. I'm a millennial bornin the 80s but I still do that incase I ever lose my phone.
@@IdealUser Right. But now if I had to call , let's say a person from church, how could I contact them? Can't look up a cell phone number. Before, you just pull out the phone book.
@@lynnesears6254 On that point, it's actually easier. With all these companies stealing our information it's not hard to find someone through a google search on sites like white pages. All you need to know is their name and age. If you know their last known address that helps too.
I used to have everyone's phone memorized by sight, even by sound. Now, I'd be in trouble if I ever lose my phone.
@@samsonau8205 Wow!
@6:07 “I’m getting a very strong sense that he has very little motivating him to not kill anyone”…
(Me thinking/quoting) “Of course, he’s a Terminator” 😉
What always bothered me about the film was the time paradox.
If you take it seriously, there should be an endless loop here. What do I mean by that?
Sarah becomes pregnant through Kyle, and her son sends Kyle back. But how can this come about?
In the first timeline there would have to be a Kyle who goes back into the past without a son to impregnate/save Sarah.
Without this imaginary Kyle, John would not exist at all, and therefore no one would save Sarah.
The question can be asked as to whether Kyle will stumble across the time machine in the future, use it, and thus end up in the past and create the endless time loop himself by getting to know Sarah and getting her pregnant.
So without having been instructed by anyone beforehand to get to know this woman.
One could also explain the paradox by saying that people created a resistance on their own, namely in the very first timeline.
Then they would have looked where machine anomalies could be discovered and would have come across the three murdered Sarahs.
So they would then have decided to send the volunteer Kyle back, and so they would have John as a leader, who might lead the resistance better and faster.
I thought a little about how this whole thing could be explained. 😂
Matt kisses Sarah on the cheek
Girls: "is that something friends did in the eighties."?
Yes, it was just friendly and normal and wouldn't have been thought of as anything abnormal or weird.
"... having to find a phone to call 911"...
EVERY building, store, shopping center, gas station had one. You couldn't go anywhere that didn't have a phone booth.
Lance Hendrickson was the cop who also played Bishop in Aliens. His best 1980s flick was Pumpkin head, a horror movie well ahead of it's time with outstanding creature effects.
The reaction to "I'll be back" at 23:36 is perfect lmao
I had a girlfriend some years ago, and she has a daughter, who was 17 at the time (around 2015). She went to a theater to watch Mad Max Fury road, and she said that the movie is excellent. I told her, yes, considering that that is number 4 in Mad Max franchise. She said :FOUR?? And I told her that there is Mad Max 1, 2, and 3, from 1980's. Than she watched those 3 movies and she was amazed! This old movies was WAY better to her, than this new one. Then I told her about 20-30 movies from the 80's that she must see, and now she becomes a fan of movies from 80's! So, girls, if you also want some suggestions from and old and experienced movie collector, talk to me!
I find it adorable that the generation that created "sexting" can be twitchy about couples using voice-calls for the same purpose.
I and millions of others can strongly recommend Blade Runner. Just don't go into it expecting an all out, gun slinging action romp like Terminator. Certainly, there are action scenes, but it's very much a detective story in the film noir style.
It's one of the finest examples of world building in film there has ever been, but is a much slower paced affair than most were expecting upon release and one that asks a lot of questions about what it means to be human. It's always been a particularly polarising film with a strong divide between those who love it and those who just didn't care much for it, but much of that can be traced back to which version of the film people experienced.
If you do decide to watch it, go with The Final Cut version and ask yourself one question at the end... what did Gaff know about who Dekkard really is? It may take a rewatch to pick up on some of the subtle hints (that fans still dispute to this day) to find your own answer... and it will be YOUR OWN answer, as each argument for and against Dekkard's true identity are just as valid, depending on your own interpretations and even the people who worked on the film can't seem to conclusively agree on who he really is 40 years later. It's a question that follows on into the sequel and those inconclusive hints are there too, but quite rightly left open by the writers and director, is every bit as ambiguous as it is by the end of the first film. Like Dekkard, you have to become a detective when watching the film to put the pieces together and come to your own conclusion. It's quite a fascinating study of individual interpretation.
I can only imagine their "cringe" at the scene piano scene with Deckard and Rachel, esp. when Rachel wants to leave. Yeah, I'd rather they _not_ watch *Blade Runner.*
@@MikeHalk100 What are you talking about??
Sorry, but Deckard's identity isn't open to interpretation. He can only be ONE thing, or the movie means absolutely nothing.
5:40 - "Any one of these is ideal for home defense."
One of my favorite lines in the movie.
The credit to Harlan Ellison was added due to the studio perceiving the similarity to two Outer Limits episodes written by him. "Demon with a Glass Hand" and "Soldier" dealt with themes of Apocalypse, Time Travel, and Cyborgs.
Almost every movie James Cameron does, he uses every cent in budget, stretching them while advancing film making, effect making and entire technology benefitting wentire industry with each of his films. Its just insane really. And after all this year, this is one his best films.
Why is it so hard to understand that one can fall in love with an idol?
And also, why is it so hard to understand that people in great danger and fear are very likely to fall in love very easily and quicker than in peaceful times? Psychologically it makes total sense.
In history, more children were fathered and born during wartime than in peaceful times.
Watching your unpleasant reaction during the love scene, made me think of all the women in Germany, France, etc. during WWII. Many of them became pregnant and were left behind by American soldiers, who returned back home to their families, never knowing that they had fathered a child. I doubt that all those women, who slept with foreign soldiers, they hardly knew, were trollops.
This is what I found on the internet about Harlan Ellison:
"After the film’s release, science-fiction writer Harlan Ellison argued that the movie was based largely on an episode of The Outer Limits Ellison had written, titled “Soldier.” Though details of a settlement were never disclosed, later releases of The Terminator include a credit acknowledging Ellison’s influence."
Bill Paxton the only actor to get killed by an alien, a predator and a terminator, rip Bill Paxton
It's so crazy that there are a bunch of kids now who haven't even seen Arnold in a film before!!! We all grew up with him in a bunch of films. I'm so glad though when you guys take the time to catch up on some of the best and most groundbreaking cinema to ever grace the silver screen.
I saw one reactor who didn’t even know he’d ever been an actor! She only knew him as a politician.
@@6li8storm40 That's so crazy!
@@6li8storm40 It's like Ronald Reagan - who started out as an actor and eventually became POTUS. I remember as a kid having no idea that he was an actor - but that was decades after he was an actor. Arnold has been in movies since before I was alive, and continues being in movies. For someone to not know he's an actor is just crazy.
@@CharlesVanNoland It definitely made me feel old!
If the first film is ‘fire’, the second one is nuclear fallout. It’s easily the best film of the franchise. I can’t wait to see your reaction to it. 🙂
I saw Terminator 2 when it first came out and left the theater blown away. It's easily the BEST sequel ever and one of the movies ever made...
Who knows? The girl on the right might actually achieve her lifelong dream of talking over ALL the dialogue of an entire film.
@mr.ekshin they have to talk over the dialogue or the video will not be allowed to be monetized. They may even have had to upload more than once and do edits to get it to pass youtube guidelines.
@@Npc2thousand - Yes... tell us you don't understand the rules, without actually coming out and saying it. Brilliant!
@@Mr.Ekshin are you vaccinated?
Too bad for Skynet Sarah Connor wasn't born in the early 2000s. Because their would have been a extremely high probability she could be convinced to take-out John Connor herself for Skynet before he was born. Or thought his father was just a creep for making eye contact or something and never gotten pregnant at all.
Having children isn't that important. Thank God I grew up in the 80s & 90s.
Bill Paxton is famously the only actor to have been killed by an Alien, Predator, and Terminator in the movies.
I recommend The Thing 1982, Blade Runner, Runaway, The Ice Pirates, Blue Thunder, and They Live if you're looking for 80's films to watch of the Sci-fi genre
the thing 1982 was as horrifying and disgusting as first alien movie haha⚛
Thanks for your wonderful reaction video ladies. I truly never get tired of watching people see these classics for the first time and sharing it with us.
Fun facts: Arnold Schwarzenegger was originally intended to play Kyle Reese and Lance Henrikson who played "Bishop" in Aliens was going to be the Terminator. Arnold wanted to play the Terminator after reading the script and changes were made.
The scene where his eyebrows are singed off after they escape the nightclub was achieved using real acid. Mr. Schwarzenegger was understandably worried about it so close to his eyes.
James Cameron's initial idea for the script came from having a nightmare about a robot that was cut in half and still chasing a female victim.
I look forward to seeing your reaction to T2. I see that the guys did a reaction, but please consider adding ROBOCOP & The Running Man to your 80's sci-fi list.
"My eyes! The goggles do nothing!"
"I think he's got all these robot skills that allow him to hack into the computer." ☺ Dear sweet Stella, I know you weren't alive then, but steering wheels/cars didn't have computers in 1984!! It's a simple switch--when you turn the key it connects two contact points and that sends current from the battery to the starter, which starts the car. 😉 Think light switch. Arnold just bypassed the ignition (key) and turned the switch directly. 😘❤💐
Calm down Beavis, that car, like most others did indeed have a computer. Every car since 1968 had at least a simple computer for ignition. Also fuel injection cars of that era had a separate computer for that...but just the ignition yes that would be just hard wired
Harlen Ellison had nothing to do with the movie. he just sued them afterwards to get a cut of the pie because it slightly resembled some of his ideas.
"I thought she was going to be more important than that."
...aaaaand that's when I stopped taking anything these two hothouse flowers said seriously.
The Thing, Terminator, Predator, Stargate, Alien/Aliens, Blade Runner, these are some of the best science fiction ever put to film. Ex-Machina and Dune 2021 are good as well (Arrival is also a good sci-fi movie, but not as many people enjoyed it it seems).
Arrival is underrated in my opinion. Super smart and intriguing movie.
It's an original story by James Cameron who came up with the idea when “The Terminator came from a dream that I had while I was sick with a fever in a cheap pensione in Rome in 1981. It was the image of a chrome skeleton emerging from a fire. When I woke up, I began sketching on the hotel stationery, The first sketch I did showed a metal skeleton cut in half at the waist, crawling over a tile floor, using a large kitchen knife to pull itself forward while reaching out with the other hand. In a second drawing, the character is threatening a crawling woman. Minus the kitchen knife, these images became the finale of The Terminator almost exactly.”. Harlan Ellison wrote an Outer Limits episode called "soldier" based on a short story he wrote about two people going back in time with one tracking down the other to fight him, and another one called "Demon with a Glass Hand" where the main character has a "robotic" hand. Harlan saw an advanced screening of the film and decided James Cameron had ripped him off, so he sued him and they settled for 65000 dollars and an "Acknowledgment" in the credits.
Fun fact: The guy who stands up Sarah on the date that she was supposed to go on, The guy on the answering machine was none other than director James Cameron. And the guy who answered at the booth at the tiki motel was Cameron as well
Don't really get the Matt hate, he thought it was his GF on the phone. Sure I wouldn't do that myself but obviously he and Sarah are close which is why she didn't react negatively
I think a film that Stella in particular would like is Dark City - it was made in 1998 so not the same period as these classics, but it deals with ideas of memory and identity I think she'd enjoy. But if you do watch it, try to get hold of the director's cut - apparently, the studio thought the film was 'too confusing' for audiences and insisted on an opening narration that spoils one of the main twists in the film for the theatrical version. Plus, it's directed by Alex Proyas who directed The Crow, another film worth watching if you haven't already.
I've been itching for someone to watch Dark City - I agree, definitely one the girls would appreciate. I'm also hoping they consider the Cube trilogy too.
Never seen a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger in it!!??? My God...
In your outro you said "i was expecting time travel shenanigans. I don't think that was much of a thing in media."
It was.
Definitely.
Just one year after Terminator came out, Hollywood treated us to Back to the Future. No spoilers in case you haven't seen it, but the title gives you the clue: it's all about time travel with plenty of shenanigans, paradoxes, and even a temporal junction point for the entire space-time continuum.
And no, Back to the Future was not the first book or movie featuring time travel (movies as early as the 1920s featured time travel, and Mark Twain and HG Wells both wrote books about time travel in the 19th century).