@criminalcontent That hair style of Sarah's that you didn't like was SUPER popular in the early 80s. The special effects were lacking because it was made on a very small budget. T2 showed what Cameron could do with the budget he wanted, but it was lacking the inspiration T1 had in my opinion. T1 was a dark sci-fi, thriller noir (almost like a horror). T2 is more like a sci-fi action.
The Terminator is definitely one of the classic films that has made such a massive mark on pop culture. You’re going to love Terminator 2: Judgment Day
It's a shame films, like Beverly Hills Cop, made it impossible for The Terminator to gross more money at the box office. People just weren't ready for The Terminator back in 1984, but you are right, The Terminator did make a massive mark on pop culture
When Reese tells her about the picture he says. "I always wondered what you where thinking." When the picture was taken she was thinking about him. All of James Cameron's movies are about love. If you ask me this is the ultimate love story.
@travisstump604 - No, not even close. Not sure why everybody is repeating it. Have to slightly disagree with it ;) Especially, considering the size of her pregnancy in the car (at the end of the movie), which most likely was several months after the events, and also she didn't know that particular photo was the one that Kyle was refering to. She has never seen that photo that Kyle was refering to. She had no frame of reference. Just some kid took her photo at that point, at the end of the movie. Thinking about him? Maybe, in a small way. I can see it, and agree with that small part. But just him? But I bet that lady, at that point was thinking about much larges issues: end of the world, her child, and so on. Even her expression, at the end when the kid is asking her, or telling her: "The storm is comming". At this point she was already much tougher lady than somebody who was just thinking only about "him". Just one person. And she is responding with "I know". That is some deeper appraoch. Not just thinking about Kyle. She was beyond that at this point, especially when that event was taking place a few months after she killed Terminator, and was already knew that Kyle was the father of her child. The one that will later on, send Kyle back in time (yeah, talk about classic time travel loop).
I highly agree with you on that at least part of the way granted this is 90% action sci-fi but James Cameron knows how to put a really good love story as well especially one so amazing well written and beautiful
@@tannhauser5399 Are you crazy? She is literally talking about Kyle right before the photo was taken. I have absolutely no idea why you are bringing up so much irrelevant stuff. Madness.
@@SkemeKOS Seriously. The kid literally snaps the picture when she says, "We loved a lifetime's worth." And you can see the pain in her face as she contemplates her lost love. No idea what the commenter is going on about regarding her not knowing it's the same photo. Of course she doesn't. It's a moot point.
@@richardb6260 - let's not forget the "Battle Beyond the Stars" in 1980 (art director in that movie), and that he was also carrying out the special effect for "Escape from New York" in 1981 (the one done by Carpenter), and worked on few more other movies in that time. The guy was already a pretty good at his craft way beyond the "Aliens" (1986). The Terminator (1984) was just a proof of that, and his craft, and professional approach. And it all escalated from that point :)
@@tannhauser5399 He says he was taken off the movie and it was finished by the producers. He had no say in the final cut. He got really sick while making the film and in one of the dreams he had while he was running a fever was the chrome skeleton that became the Terminator.
Michael Biehn is amazing, and I hope Coby watches more of his movies (The Abyss, Aliens, Navy Seals, The Rock). He's an underrated/underutilized actor, IMO.
@@DougRayPhillips Yes. I had to go check the movie list and see if anyone from this channel had watched it yet. Unless I missed it, it's not been viewed. Perhaps it's already been watched and therefore not a first view opportunity? But if Coby has seen Tombstone, then she didn't recognize Michael Bien as Ringo. Such a great character and he played it marvelously. Kilmer is great, but Biehn pulled off being great opposite of Kilmer.
the pace of the film , the direction from James Cameron, the tightly written script, the story and the tone of the film is unmatched, imo this is one of the most original, unique and underrated films ever made, definitely in the top 5 best sci-fi films ever made.
I agree. I belong to the minority who consider the original Terminator to be the best T-movie. Among other things, for what you wrote. It has an atmosphere that is unbeatable. I saw it on VHS in the late 80s (secretly because I was too young) and it is still one of my most defining film experiences. We loved T2 when it came out, and I still love it but in retrospect, the original Terminator is the real deal.
If Sarah hadn't accidentally bumped into the pneumatic press it wouldn't be open for the cyborg to be crushed into or learn which button not to push to close it. Tight script indeed.
It was also made with guerrilla film making techniques. At the time Cameron couldn’t get the necessary permits for certain scenes. So they went to the desired location and shot what they could before the cops arrived.
Me and my 8 buddies had gotten off of work at 9:00 at Costco, or back then, it was called the Price Club. There was a movie theater a couple of miles away, we all decided to go to whichever movie was playing next. It was a low-budget movie that none of us had ever heard of, it just come out, it was called The Terminator, and needless to say we were completely blown away!
My favorite bit is when he's in the apartment as the landlord is asking about the odor coming from the room. The Terminator cycles through possible responses and comes up with "Fuck you, asshole", which is a nod to the scene where the T-800 first arrives and encountered that gang of thugs led by Bill Paxton.
@@KHAOE1 Well, that /was/ one of the options given by the landlord, from a machine's perspective, it's a valid response: Yes/No, Please go away, Or what, Fuck you, Fuck you, asshole.
Forty years ago this classic was groundbreaking. Linda Hamilton is the 🌟of Terminator I & II movies. Her growth from nice waitress to the mother of the resistance leader was amazing. Great cast acting.
My favourite part, and a sad fact, is when Kyle said that he always wondered what Sarah was thinking at that moment in the picture. And she was thinking in Kyle during that tape record. Lovers across time....
At the end when the attendant says " He said there's a storm coming in ", the way she looks into the distance and says " I know " literally gives me chills. Perfect ending.
The terminator lost his eyebrows when he ran through the fire ... as far as Reese, didn't you watch Aliens? There are lots of these films, but the only other must see is Terminator 2 ... One of the greatest sequels ever and it ends pretty nice - no need to have ever gone further. "I'll be back" did indeed become something Schwarzenegger says in all (?) his films. This was the first, but was a sticking point between Arnold and Cameron. Arnold was insistent that a robot wouldn't use the contraction. Cameron convinced him and it became a Hollywood touchstone.
Every reactor seems to forget that they just saw the Terminator on FIRE in the previous scene when he landed on the hood of their car. His hair is also burnt shorter too. 😆
@@Dave3Dguy in Coby's defense, eyebrows are a strangely overlooked change. My sister got alopecia, and before she got eyebrows tattoos, it was very hard to put your finger on exactly what was off. When you did, you slapped your forehead over how obvious it was.
@@Hapsard Yep. I had seen this movie a bunch of times (I even saw it's TV premiere on NBC (I think)) and never noticed his eyebrows were missing until I started watching reaction vids on RUclips. That's why I keep watching reaction videos. I love finding little bits and pieces I never noticed.
The most ironic fun fact of all time: The producers of this film wanted OJ Simpson to be the terminator, but Cameron didn't think he looked like a killer.
@libertyresearch-iu4fy - plenty of more trivia there too. Also , you have to notice that one of the people who also encounter Terminator/Arnold, is played by Bill Paxton (and they both played togeter in Aliens movie later on). Bill was one of those three guys at the beginning, in front of telescope. And the other guy, right hand side on the screen, is Brian Thompson - the "famous" alien bounty hunter from X-Files series (or the "bad" guy from the "Cobra" movie with Stallone). - Or even something simple as: "Cameron's voice is heard three times in the movie: as Sarah Connor's date on the answering machine and twice as a manager of Tiki motel, who is heard (but not seen) speaking to Sarah and then again answers the phone when The Terminator calls" - Or that Arnold was originally sent the script to read for the part of Reese but thankfully convinced Cameron that the cyborg would be more his style. - Or even Michael Biehn, who had to read for his part twice, because he had just been auditioning for a stage play of "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and was still in Southern mode. So his first reading was not that great. He went back, dropped the accent and got the part. Edit: spelling/grammar
I love stuff like that. You don't make the connection until later with repeat viewings. Like: * Kyle said he always wondered what Sarah was thinking about in the picture. Turns out, she was thinking of him. * She says on the answering machine, "Fooled you. You're talking to a machine." She is later fooled by talking to a machine. * Kyle says John is about his height. Foreshadowing him being the father. * Kyle says the father dies before the war. * The toy semi-truck gets destroyed in the movie when the Terminator is driving. Later, a real-semi truck gets destroyed while the Terminator is driving. * In trying to prevent its destruction Skynet creates a time machine. Dramatic irony because it ensures the leader who destroys Skynet. But in a deleted scene shows it becomes the catalyst for its own creation. * T2: Robert Patrick gives a look at a silver mannequin. Something that makes little sense until later. * T2: Janene uses a knife to cut vegetables. Which is more dramatic irony with what happens later. • T2: Once Sarah was on the run from a Terminator. Later, Sarah becomes like a Terminator. Decked out in black, sunglasses and weapons. James Cameron doesn't do this as much in other movies. I think he adds these because it fits the cylical themes of time travel so well. Plus the nature if time travel movies. Things make sense when you go back and re-watch it, knowing what happens in the future. Like a future flashback. Like, in Back to te Future when the Twin Pines Mall becomes the Lone Pine Mall when Marty returns.
Actually, OJ had the roll but Arnold convinced Cameron how a Robot would act he gave Arnold the roll instead. Lots of videos here with Arnold telling the story, he wanted the roll of Reece because it had more lines.
There are several paradoxes in Temporal Mechanics. The one demonstrated in these movies is the (Predestination Paradox) - when the actions of a person traveling back in time become part of past events, and may ultimately cause the event he is trying to prevent to take place. The result is a ‘temporal causality loop’ in which Event 1 in the past influences Event 2 in the future (time travel to the past) which then causes Event 1 to occur.
that is.nt necessarily true but it is possible it would more likely cause the event 1 to happen earlier or later depending on what changed, or stop it as was intended. the future is not fated or set it can change.
I think the only way to prevent a bootstrap paradox is by the time travel event creating an alternate timeline, but this completely defeats the purpose of the time travel. Kind of like if you were to go back in time to give your past self the winning lotto numbers for an upcoming drawing. This would not change anything for your existing timeline. Then there is the self-fulfilling prophecy aspect of time travel, where anything and everything you do to prevent the future events is what causes them to happen.
@@ulibarriL Bootstrap paradox creates an infinite time loop. While the Predestination Paradox occurs only once. Just google bootstrap vs Predestination Paradox to see.
@@MASO204The term “shotgun “ or “riding shotgun” came from the old west where a bodyguard, usually carrying a shot gun or a rifle, would sit next to the driver of the stagecoach and keep a lookout.
Cameron mentioned in an interview after this premiered that he borrowed the idea from two screenplays Harlan Ellison wrote for the Outer Limits. Ellison sued and won, that's why it has the acknowledgement to his works at the end of the film. It was part of the settlement.
LOL @@criminalcontent when I was born in '95, my dad wanted to name me Sara, & my mom goes, "Why don't we name her Sarah after T2." ...so I've always been Sarah the Terminator LOL (or Gravy, after my dog Gravydog)
The first Terminator movie, one of Cameron's early works, was a low budget movie. But it was so successful, that Terminator 2 became the most expensive movie ever made until then, the first one to exceed a budget of 100 million dollars. That is what made James Cameron the big budget juggler he became. With T2, Titanic and Avatar he broke the record for the most expensive movie three times. Well, two of them also were the most successful movies ever made by then, Titanic being the first one to make over a billion dollars at the box offices, Avatar the first one beating 2 billion. And while Terminator 2 did not make it on top of the list, it was still one of the most successful movies made by then. And a big commercial success, despite its crazy production costs.
You will LOVE T2 and get much more insight into the reason for things still not clear. All the Terminator films are worth watching for the story arch but for me T2 is the cherry on top.
You rinse your mouth in the shower. Actually effective. Besides, it's a movie. They might have gotten basic supplies as they couldn't have gone without food for a really long time and you just don't show everything in the required run time. Not much of a stretch. Would be different if they were stranded on an island with no supplies.
He singed his eyebrows off when he ran through the flames in the alley. He DID have them at the beginning. Yes, Arnie's catchphrase was born in this movie.
But there is also a great TV show, that sadly was canceled way to early : "Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles" with Lena Headey and Summer Glau. Also the other Game of Thrones collab with Khaleesi is really underrated imho. Of course not comparable to 1 and 2, but its still a quite good movie.
I was 18 when I saw this in the theater. It blew me away. We never seen anything like this before. The stop motion and practical effects are amazing! T2 is even better! 🤞✌
It is hard to imagine now that "The Terminator" and "Alien" were stand alone films when they first came out. For both of them it was around 7 years before a sequel came out. Looking at all the dozens of sequels it is easy to think that they were made as franchise films when they were not.
Almost in the first scene with the three guys, the blue haired is Bill Paxton, a very well known actor who appeared in Titanic, Aliens or Twister, among another ones.
I saw this in the theater with a few friends when it was first released, we were in the first row closest to the screen. We were blown away, it was the coolest movie we had ever seen. Now people aren't as easily impressed
The problem is 3 fold: people with short attention spans, people who are hard to please and know everything, and the industry churning out woke crap far too often
There were only 3 Sarah Conners in the phone book when she was looking at it in the bar. The terminator knew it was the right Sarah since she was the only one left.
Unless, of course, she had an unlisted number. Or the phone was in Ginger's name. Or she had no phone at all. I'm wondering how the terminator would ever know if he got the right one.
@@TheChapelGroveAs a machine, he would logically start with the phone book, because it’s the most accessible form of information and eliminate in ascending order until all known resources were exhausted. Not to mention, he could’ve done a simple search on her in the police cruiser computer near the beginning.
Well a second clue that he now had the right Sarah was that someone was protecting her. She must be important. Also the terminator may also know who kyle is.......
He didn't actually have to know. He would just kill the third one then start looking for other possible Sarah Connors that aren't easy to find. Why dig for unlisted numbers when you can just start with the listed ones first? Also, if The Terminator knew that Reese was from the future, then he would know he had the correct Sarah Connor.
42:20 In one of the deleted scenes that takes place as Sarah is taken away in the ambulance the camera pulls back and it is revealed that the factory that the terminator was killed in, was, in fact, the factory in which he was built. Cyberdyne Systems.
Coby, there are 6 Terminator movies. The first two are the best, but some of the others are worth a look at least if you're a sci-fi nut. I remember I was in the wardroom of the USS Caloosahatchee in the Indian Ocean when I first saw this movie in 1984. Hope you like 👍
-The terminator fled from police because it was damaged in the crash -his eyebrows were singed off in the fire -skynet didn’t know what Sarah Conner looked like as she spent her life living “off the grid” to prepare for this future -There are only 2 terminator movies.
Months after this movie came out, they held a special midnight showing in a lecture hall at the University of Boulder, Colorado. It was a friggin' PARTY. This movie was HUGE at the time.
The Terminator and Back to the Future made me love time travel films, but this one really opened the door to the concept of AI in sci-fi films. Great reaction from Coby, I'm sure we will all agree for her to watch Terminator 2. It was the long awaited sequel that really pays off.
I mean, AI had appeared in sci-fi films many times beforehand, maybe most famously (by 1984) in "2001: A Space Odyssey". Killer robots/androids appeared in "Westworld" in 1973. Killer AI from "Colossus: The Forbin Project" (1970), "Demon Seed" (1977) etc. years previously. Hell even "War Games" was before this (albeit only by a year). _Maybe_ this made it a more _mainstream_ idea but the door was already wide open IMO.
@@anonymes2884 My point was that this film opened 'MY' eyes to the concept of AI, and because of my age this film resonated with me at the time. I wasn't old enough to appreciate some of those other films or had seen them at the time this film caught my attention.
You have to remember that James Cameron was still making low budget B-movies at the time. This film was a bit of a step up but still only had a $6.5M budget. It was cool to see them get so much out of the small budget. And Arnold was pretty much a punchline to a joke back then, even though he'd starred in a couple of Conan films. It seemed like that's all the public would accept from him. No one expected to see him in a contemporary thriller. This film showcased his screen presence and he took off to star in a few more action films soon after, even though his accent and awkward acting style were still present. Ultimately this film made around $78M, which was a huge return on the investment. Seven years later the much fancier and colder sequel would cost over $100M. The "good guy" Michael Biehn would appear in Cameron's "Aliens." Cameron would eventually marry Linda Hamilton.
I think the accent kinda adds to the Terminator though. It kinda rings of robotic voice synthesizer that hasn't quite nailed down human speech yet, but it's passable as a heavy accent. Also, I see people complain that Arnold blinks when a gun is fired, while Rober Patrick didn't, but I'm here to say that it's explicitly stated that the T1000 is a prototype, whereas the T800 model 101 (Arnold) is a production model. The T1000 might not have all the bugs worked out yet (in fact, comic lore says that SkyNet sent the T1000 as a last resort because the T1000 was dangerously smart and not quite finished), which could have caused some of it's less human-looking mannerisms. A Terminator that blinks and responds like a human would is a better infiltrator. Robert Patrick really nailed his performance though, along with Arnold
33:18 Yeah, the whole thing is one big bootstrap paradox. John sent Reese back in time to save his mother and to ensure John's birth, in turn, leading to John sending Reese back in time.
The movie is a time travel paradox. It’s why it works so well. It forms a perfect loop. There are other franchises that have done this as well. Great reaction BTW.
If you read the book, there is information they did not use for the movie. The Terminator and the machines did not have any more information on Sarah than that she had been in the hospital and had a pin in her left leg. Arnold went down the list and killed each one, cutting open the left leg looking for the pin. Unfortunately, Sarah wouldn't have had one as she did not get the pin until the T-800 blew up and a piece pierced her left causing damage to the bone. Not something they could easily explain in the movie without slowing the pace down. You are usually spot on catching faces of other actors, so was surprised you did not notice Lance Henrikson (the 2nd detective) or Michael Biehn (Reese), or Bill Paxton (rainbow mohawk punk). All three are in Aliens as well.
My belief is the baby in Sarah’s belly at the end of this film is a different John from the one that sent Kyle back from the future. The time travel element immediately sets up a new timeline of events, with Sarah now able to better train John from an early age to be an even better future leader than the one in Kyle’s timeline. But the machines will also be more advanced in this timeline, for reasons that will become clear if you continue watching. And you should, for at least one more film, since Terminator 2 is quite possibly the greatest sci-fi action blockbuster of all time.
This was the best reaction-vid as far as content as most reaction hosts conclude at about 34 minutes. This host, Coby, was also gracious enough to spare us from non-stop personal dialogue while other hosts ramble on ad infinitum! Well done Coby!
The timeloop paradox IS the premise and it's a prominent aspect of 2 of the films and referenced in all of them. Hence, no fate but what we make. No one truly knows how the war started because of the paradox.
The way that Colby is trying to figure out the whole chicken and egg situation with Reese, future, John Connor situation is quite funny and mental gymnastics. Everyone who grew up watching all the late 70’s to 90’s classic movies had to do all these gymnastics and go through all the arguments with themselves and everyone who watched these movies. Reminds me of the episode the Big Bang episode where Amy, Bernadette, and Penny read a comic and start arguing over who is right. Colby reminds me of the ladies from that episode
Ya know, it just hit me what a testament it is to Kyle Reese that he faced down the Terninator on his own at the night club, and the 30 cops at the police station were wiped out. It's his experience with these terminators and his combat experience that makes the difference. And no criticism of the cops, for they had no idea what they were dealing with and were taken by surprise. Kyle is one bad dude! He was truly the one for the job.
It's also very interesting regarding the Polaroid photo of Sara with the dog and the bandana. That is the picture that Reese has that causes him to fall in love with Sara and in the end you will notice the instant the picture was taken, Sara is thinking of her love for Reese ("in the hours we had we loved a lifetime's worth").
The first couple of terminator movies are arguably some of the best science/fiction action adventure movies ever made... After that the quality drops significantly - even as budgets gets much larger...great reaction. Looking forward to the sequel.
17:15 - interesting note, the young cop is played by William Wisher, the actual author of the script for Terminator & T2. They gave him a small cameo in the film.
I love the photo moment. Kyle asks that he was wondering what she was thinking in that moment of the photo. If you flip to the end, she was thinking of him. Another crazy loop moment.
Great reaction. And yeah, Kyle being the dad, but not knowing he was the father, it is the whole terminator paradox. And keep watching. Terminator 2 is quite possibly the best sequel ever, if not, then #2 behind Godfather 2.
Fun fact: The guy whose voice you hear Sarah play on her answering machine, the guy with the Porche who blew her off, cancelling their date....was actually James Cameron. 😉
The question you posed about how "John wouldn't exist if he didn't send Kyle" is what made the Terminator franchise so great. This paradox is one of the lynchpins of this whole saga. There have been countless debates and fan theories. There's one that states that Skynet (which can be considered a superintelligence) understands this paradox and actually propogates this time travel loop to assure its own existence. Could the leftover T-800 parts be the things that started Skynet? Humans may have never conceived Skynet if there was no terminator in our time to begin with.
I saw the light come on when Reese said "He's about my height." You picked up that he was the father. (Most reactors get it, or start suspecting, during that scene. You got it THAT SECOND.) Arnold's eyebrows are gone because Reese shot the gas tank of a car and the terminator was near the explosion. When he jumps on the car, he's on fire. The missing eyebrows are because they were burned off. That's not really pointed out and a lot of people don't get that until they've seen this more than once. The other terminator that Reese remembers was played by Franco Colombu, Arnold's training partner during his competitive bodybuilding days and fellow Mr. Olympia.
Right, it’s the 2nd Street tunnel, which they enter on the Hill Street end. Diagonally across the block and almost due south is the Bradbury Building at 3rd and Broadway.
JFC you were born in 1984? I'd never have put you in my age bracket, 82 baby. Though, now your intelligent insights into movies make more sense. Great channel & choice of movie picks 👏
Yeah, I’m still trying to wrap my head around Coby being 40 years old. I keep re-running the numbers and the only thing that makes sense is that my math skills have left the building.
What gets me is that John Connor knew Reese was his father. He gave him Sarah's picture and told him stories about her to make him fall in love with her and volunteer to go back and protect her. Also, Sarah was a waitress. It was this experience that made her the kind of person who would raise the savior of humanity. If the machines hadn't sent the Terminator, John Connor would have never been born and Sarah would have never become the kind of person who could raise a leader.
John groomed a motherf♤r, that's what you sayin... You think Sarah left suggestions in a tape? "John, please, six feet tall with abs. And hair, don't send me a goddamn goblin. You want good genes, son."
@@bluecollartradesman715 We're dealing with a future where John was born. But by sending the Terminator to stop John from being born, they insured the very thing they wanted to prevent. But they had to send the Terminator back to insure something we learn in the next film. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
27:20 At that range, even with a modern ballistic plate, each shot is like getting punched in the chest. And at that range, it's like a "Mike Tyson wants to hurt you" punch.
One thing to note is that Terminator's budget was only $6 million which was a lower budget even for the day. For example Footloose, released the same year, had an $8 million budget for a simple comedy/drama. Beverly Hills Cop was around a $13 million budget. Big budget films at the time were in the 25-30+ million range. Considering the Sci-Fi/time travel story and what it was able to convey visually I honestly believe it to be one of the most impressive films of all time.
Coby, it's called a paradox! The causality (Reese chooses to go back --> Sarah gets pregnant) is "out of order" to chronology (Sarah gets pregnant in 1984 --> Reese chooses to go back 40 years in the future). The mind-bendiness is part of the fun. Glad you enjoyed the movie.
He was chosen. John Connor would have groomed him for it, which is why he gave him the picture. Sarah was recording the instructions to send Reese, "or you'll never be born".
So many react channels are thrown by the sudden lack of eyebrows on Arnie. Can't blame them all; the movie doesn't do enough to link the fireball to his change in appearance. Showing the fire on his face, or even a clearer view of his face when he's about to punch the windshield, would have helped.
Sweet baby Jesus... have you seen Tropic Thunder? There's a line in there meant for you. After Arnold comes through the flames and jumps on the hood, they clearly show his face, with smoke coming off of it. And you can clearly see his eyebrows are gone. I swear, the younger people are the more they need an explanation that water is wet...
33:30 the way that I see it in order to get over the whole ‘temporal paradox’ thing, is that John Connor’s father was originally some random guy. Then, Reece was sent back and he becomes John’s dad, but because the father is now a different person, the next John Connor is different from the original John Connor. And when Reece is born in this new future, he is also a new Reece due to the butterfly effect. It’s complicated, but it explains any conflicts with the space/time reality.
That would mean that each iteration of the loop would have a different John Connor and a different Kyle Reese, and they would keep changing without end, or at least until something went terribly wrong with the whole sequence.
Lance Hendrickson and Bill Paxton are in a pretty exclusive club. They're the only actors that have been unalived by the terminator, Aliens and Predator.
@Jaydogg222 He was in two Alien films. Aliens where he was the Android and got ripped in two right at the end. Then he was in the third one as the creator of the Andriods but I don't think he was actually unalived in that one. That is where Ripley dies because she is carrying an Alien.
Kyle mentions he was born after the war, so it's safe to say even in his timeline, which is one possible future of Sarah's present, Sarah Connor was also impregnated by him, after coming from the future in his timeline, and it just cycles infinitely in that way.
First... "The Terminator" was made on basically an Indi budget which is so impressive. Second... The correct answer is there are only TWO Terminator movies. 😉 EDIT: No, the timeline is in 1984, the machine war didn't happen until later.
@@johnpaullogan1365 No way. "Dark Fate" is the worst one of them all. The fact that those three are associated with it means absolutely NOTHING. You can count what ever you want but it doesn't change that "TDF" is a terrible movie. The only one that gets a little respect is "Salvation" because at least they tried something newish. As I said, there are only TWO Terminator movies.
@@jeremybrooks7415 no. OJ was Not James Cameron’s choice. He was a studio suggestion. They wanted someone with name recognition. Lance didn’t have that at the time.
The key to watching time travel movies is to not think too much about the implications of time travel. I might be misremembering so others can correct me but, way back in 1984, we didn’t expect to see Arnold play the bad guy, so that was kind of brilliant.
18:5819:07 _"Does he have eyebrows?"_ @4:34, you'll notice that Arnold does have eyebrows in the beginning of the film. The reason he doesn't have eyebrows later on is because they burned off when Arnold ran through the fire @16:54. It wasn't makeup.
Hi Coby, cool it's awesome you've seen this sci-fi classic :) it's one of Arnie's best. Please react to Terminator 2 soon, it's the GOAT sequel! And, spoiler alert, Arnie is back! You're one of my favourite Popcorn Roulette reactors.
Dude I’m sure everyone is thrilled for you to react to T2. I love this movie. Kyle is so great and Michael Biehn (sp?) is spectacular in the part. Obviously Arnold is perfect as the Terminator. I love that she’s thinking of her love for Kyle as that pic is taken and Kyle stares at it in the future wondering what she’s thinking…
Coby + Arnie - Round 1 !
TERMINATOR 2 Reaction here: ruclips.net/video/8xxDul5qMAM/видео.html
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1! is redundant. 1 factorial = 1.
He'll be back.
@@JuandeFucaU sure will
How are you ?
I always liked the irony when the answering message says "You're talking to a machine right now" as the Terminator is standing there.
brilliant ! never thought of that
"But hey, machines need love too" 🤔😄
@criminalcontent
That hair style of Sarah's that you didn't like was SUPER popular in the early 80s. The special effects were lacking because it was made on a very small budget. T2 showed what Cameron could do with the budget he wanted, but it was lacking the inspiration T1 had in my opinion. T1 was a dark sci-fi, thriller noir (almost like a horror). T2 is more like a sci-fi action.
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 Yeah that hair was terrible then, and it's terrible now! 😄
"Machines need love too".
Coby: "I mean it's 2024 and we're doing ok right?"
A.I.: "Hold my beer."
Start the music…
"Beah"... 🙄
AI meets improvements in missile intercept technology (like that used when Iran shot those missiles a few months ago) begets SkyNet. 🤷♂️
AI can't figure out how many arms a person has. I think we're okay.
Lol come on man don't jinks it lol
The Terminator is definitely one of the classic films that has made such a massive mark on pop culture. You’re going to love Terminator 2: Judgment Day
YES to Terminator 2!
@@TheChapelGrove It's a role reversal for Arnold's character.
@@brandonwilliams957 Dude don't fucking spoil it
It's a shame films, like Beverly Hills Cop, made it impossible for The Terminator to gross more money at the box office. People just weren't ready for The Terminator back in 1984, but you are right, The Terminator did make a massive mark on pop culture
@@Zuurkool1 I know what a moron...
When Reese tells her about the picture he says.
"I always wondered what you where thinking."
When the picture was taken she was thinking about him.
All of James Cameron's movies are about love. If you ask me this is the ultimate love story.
@travisstump604 - No, not even close. Not sure why everybody is repeating it. Have to slightly disagree with it ;)
Especially, considering the size of her pregnancy in the car (at the end of the movie), which most likely was several months after the events, and also she didn't know that particular photo was the one that Kyle was refering to. She has never seen that photo that Kyle was refering to. She had no frame of reference. Just some kid took her photo at that point, at the end of the movie.
Thinking about him? Maybe, in a small way. I can see it, and agree with that small part. But just him? But I bet that lady, at that point was thinking about much larges issues: end of the world, her child, and so on. Even her expression, at the end when the kid is asking her, or telling her: "The storm is comming". At this point she was already much tougher lady than somebody who was just thinking only about "him". Just one person.
And she is responding with "I know". That is some deeper appraoch. Not just thinking about Kyle. She was beyond that at this point, especially when that event was taking place a few months after she killed Terminator, and was already knew that Kyle was the father of her child. The one that will later on, send Kyle back in time (yeah, talk about classic time travel loop).
I highly agree with you on that at least part of the way granted this is 90% action sci-fi but James Cameron knows how to put a really good love story as well especially one so amazing well written and beautiful
@@tannhauser5399 Are you crazy? She is literally talking about Kyle right before the photo was taken. I have absolutely no idea why you are bringing up so much irrelevant stuff.
Madness.
@@SkemeKOS Seriously. The kid literally snaps the picture when she says, "We loved a lifetime's worth." And you can see the pain in her face as she contemplates her lost love. No idea what the commenter is going on about regarding her not knowing it's the same photo. Of course she doesn't. It's a moot point.
@@tannhauser5399 She is thinking of kyle. She literally says the few hours we spent together we loved a lifetimes worth
Nobody ever comes to the realization Terminator lost his eyebrows and some of his hair when he jumped through the fire and onto the hood of the car.
Well not nobody...
Kids today don't have no tension span 😶🌫️
@@dimkagalente6956 you mean a torque wrench?
i've been watching this movie for 20+ years and I never noticed until she pointed it out
youtube rules
To be fair, I'm guessing multitudes of folks have noticed that...
Terminator made a name for Cameron. T2 made him a legend.
@@daveygivens735 It got him the Aliens job.
Already a legend in 1986.@@richardb6260
@daveygivens735 - true, as I don't think his first movie was that great, "Piranha II: The Spawning" ;)
@@richardb6260 - let's not forget the "Battle Beyond the Stars" in 1980 (art director in that movie), and that he was also carrying out the special effect for "Escape from New York" in 1981 (the one done by Carpenter), and worked on few more other movies in that time. The guy was already a pretty good at his craft way beyond the "Aliens" (1986). The Terminator (1984) was just a proof of that, and his craft, and professional approach. And it all escalated from that point :)
@@tannhauser5399 He says he was taken off the movie and it was finished by the producers. He had no say in the final cut. He got really sick while making the film and in one of the dreams he had while he was running a fever was the chrome skeleton that became the Terminator.
Michael Biehn is amazing, and I hope Coby watches more of his movies (The Abyss, Aliens, Navy Seals, The Rock). He's an underrated/underutilized actor, IMO.
And Tombstone.
@@DougRayPhillips Yes. I had to go check the movie list and see if anyone from this channel had watched it yet. Unless I missed it, it's not been viewed. Perhaps it's already been watched and therefore not a first view opportunity? But if Coby has seen Tombstone, then she didn't recognize Michael Bien as Ringo. Such a great character and he played it marvelously. Kilmer is great, but Biehn pulled off being great opposite of Kilmer.
Don’t forget cherry falls that was a good one
Tombstone
The mandalorian. Unnamed mercenary character. Definitely a sci-fi kinda guy. And much more.*correction. Character's name is Lang.
the pace of the film , the direction from James Cameron, the tightly written script, the story and the tone of the film is unmatched, imo this is one of the most original, unique and underrated films ever made, definitely in the top 5 best sci-fi films ever made.
I agree. I belong to the minority who consider the original Terminator to be the best T-movie. Among other things, for what you wrote. It has an atmosphere that is unbeatable. I saw it on VHS in the late 80s (secretly because I was too young) and it is still one of my most defining film experiences. We loved T2 when it came out, and I still love it but in retrospect, the original Terminator is the real deal.
If Sarah hadn't accidentally bumped into the pneumatic press it wouldn't be open for the cyborg to be crushed into or learn which button not to push to close it. Tight script indeed.
It was also made with guerrilla film making techniques. At the time Cameron couldn’t get the necessary permits for certain scenes. So they went to the desired location and shot what they could before the cops arrived.
high bar with bttf trilogy and t2 taking up 4 of the slots. kind feel star wars episode 4 takes the last slot but it is close
I agree, I would say arguably 2 is the most fun and rewatchable, a typical blockbuster and its great but the 1st movie is the better movie
Me and my 8 buddies had gotten off of work at 9:00 at Costco, or back then, it was called the Price Club. There was a movie theater a couple of miles away, we all decided to go to whichever movie was playing next. It was a low-budget movie that none of us had ever heard of, it just come out, it was called The Terminator, and needless to say we were completely blown away!
It doesn't feel pain, or pity, or remorse and it absolutely WILL NOT STOP until you are DEAD.
This move is so good.
Plus the only one that get it right!
This movie got the Halloween 1978 movie to thank for the Terminator's success.
My favorite bit is when he's in the apartment as the landlord is asking about the odor coming from the room. The Terminator cycles through possible responses and comes up with "Fuck you, asshole", which is a nod to the scene where the T-800 first arrives and encountered that gang of thugs led by Bill Paxton.
I've watched this movie 100x, and never noticed that
What's funny is that one of the answers is "Or what" which would have been a funny (and smart) response as well.
@@KHAOE1 Well, that /was/ one of the options given by the landlord, from a machine's perspective, it's a valid response: Yes/No, Please go away, Or what, Fuck you, Fuck you, asshole.
I never made that connection
I just bought the Last Exit to Nowhere shirt with that readout screen/the choices (which makes no sense but) - love it!
Forty years ago this classic was groundbreaking. Linda Hamilton is the 🌟of Terminator I & II movies. Her growth from nice waitress to the mother of the resistance leader was amazing. Great cast acting.
She's also in Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
DON'T SPOIL 😠
Coby counting the explosives like an OCD detective. 😂
The fact that the count was correct in the film shows what an anal retentive that Cameron is...lol
It might have been intuitive to do so. Like Columbo.
My favourite part, and a sad fact, is when Kyle said that he always wondered what Sarah was thinking at that moment in the picture. And she was thinking in Kyle during that tape record. Lovers across time....
oh my god the amount of fucking dweebs that sprint to the comments to be the first person to say this are so fucking cringe
At the end when the attendant says " He said there's a storm coming in ", the way she looks into the distance and says " I know " literally gives me chills. Perfect ending.
The terminator lost his eyebrows when he ran through the fire ...
as far as Reese, didn't you watch Aliens?
There are lots of these films, but the only other must see is Terminator 2 ... One of the greatest sequels ever and it ends pretty nice - no need to have ever gone further.
"I'll be back" did indeed become something Schwarzenegger says in all (?) his films. This was the first, but was a sticking point between Arnold and Cameron. Arnold was insistent that a robot wouldn't use the contraction. Cameron convinced him and it became a Hollywood touchstone.
Every reactor seems to forget that they just saw the Terminator on FIRE in the previous scene when he landed on the hood of their car. His hair is also burnt shorter too. 😆
@@Dave3Dguy People are used to modern movies where fire is barely an inconvenience.
@@Dave3Dguy in Coby's defense, eyebrows are a strangely overlooked change. My sister got alopecia, and before she got eyebrows tattoos, it was very hard to put your finger on exactly what was off. When you did, you slapped your forehead over how obvious it was.
@@Hapsard Yep. I had seen this movie a bunch of times (I even saw it's TV premiere on NBC (I think)) and never noticed his eyebrows were missing until I started watching reaction vids on RUclips. That's why I keep watching reaction videos. I love finding little bits and pieces I never noticed.
@@Dave3Dguy And it became part of the iconic look, so every subsequent Terminator, comes with an already singed fringe.
The most ironic fun fact of all time: The producers of this film wanted OJ Simpson to be the terminator, but Cameron didn't think he looked like a killer.
the twists of fate !
@libertyresearch-iu4fy - plenty of more trivia there too. Also , you have to notice that one of the people who also encounter Terminator/Arnold, is played by Bill Paxton (and they both played togeter in Aliens movie later on). Bill was one of those three guys at the beginning, in front of telescope. And the other guy, right hand side on the screen, is Brian Thompson - the "famous" alien bounty hunter from X-Files series (or the "bad" guy from the "Cobra" movie with Stallone).
- Or even something simple as: "Cameron's voice is heard three times in the movie: as Sarah Connor's date on the answering machine and twice as a manager of Tiki motel, who is heard (but not seen) speaking to Sarah and then again answers the phone when The Terminator calls"
- Or that Arnold was originally sent the script to read for the part of Reese but thankfully convinced Cameron that the cyborg would be more his style.
- Or even Michael Biehn, who had to read for his part twice, because he had just been auditioning for a stage play of "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and was still in Southern mode. So his first reading was not that great. He went back, dropped the accent and got the part.
Edit: spelling/grammar
I love stuff like that. You don't make the connection until later with repeat viewings. Like:
* Kyle said he always wondered what Sarah was thinking about in the picture. Turns out, she was thinking of him.
* She says on the answering machine, "Fooled you. You're talking to a machine." She is later fooled by talking to a machine.
* Kyle says John is about his height. Foreshadowing him being the father.
* Kyle says the father dies before the war.
* The toy semi-truck gets destroyed in the movie when the Terminator is driving. Later, a real-semi truck gets destroyed while the Terminator is driving.
* In trying to prevent its destruction Skynet creates a time machine. Dramatic irony because it ensures the leader who destroys Skynet. But in a deleted scene shows it becomes the catalyst for its own creation.
* T2: Robert Patrick gives a look at a silver mannequin. Something that makes little sense until later.
* T2: Janene uses a knife to cut vegetables. Which is more dramatic irony with what happens later.
• T2: Once Sarah was on the run from a Terminator. Later, Sarah becomes like a Terminator. Decked out in black, sunglasses and weapons.
James Cameron doesn't do this as much in other movies. I think he adds these because it fits the cylical themes of time travel so well. Plus the nature if time travel movies. Things make sense when you go back and re-watch it, knowing what happens in the future. Like a future flashback. Like, in Back to te Future when the Twin Pines Mall becomes the Lone Pine Mall when Marty returns.
OJ was not a killer according to US law ...
Actually, OJ had the roll but Arnold convinced Cameron how a Robot would act he gave Arnold the roll instead. Lots of videos here with Arnold telling the story, he wanted the roll of Reece because it had more lines.
Those 80’s hairstyles were totally awesome! Long live The Mullet!!
Terminator 2: Judgment Day is a must watch!
There are several paradoxes in Temporal Mechanics. The one demonstrated in these movies is the (Predestination Paradox) - when the actions of a person traveling back in time become part of past events, and may ultimately cause the event he is trying to prevent to take place. The result is a ‘temporal causality loop’ in which Event 1 in the past influences Event 2 in the future (time travel to the past) which then causes Event 1 to occur.
that is.nt necessarily true but it is possible it would more likely cause the event 1 to happen earlier or later depending on what changed, or stop it as was intended. the future is not fated or set it can change.
I believe this an example of the Bootstrap Paradox (one of the many paradoxes when it comes to time travel)
I think the only way to prevent a bootstrap paradox is by the time travel event creating an alternate timeline, but this completely defeats the purpose of the time travel. Kind of like if you were to go back in time to give your past self the winning lotto numbers for an upcoming drawing. This would not change anything for your existing timeline. Then there is the self-fulfilling prophecy aspect of time travel, where anything and everything you do to prevent the future events is what causes them to happen.
@@ulibarriL Bootstrap paradox creates an infinite time loop. While the Predestination Paradox occurs only once. Just google bootstrap vs Predestination Paradox to see.
Cops used to keep shotguns stored in their car like that in 80s
Really?
@@eirikrdberg1161 That's why its called riding shotgun when you want to jump in the front seat of your friends car.
@@MASO204The term “shotgun “ or “riding shotgun” came from the old west where a bodyguard, usually carrying a shot gun or a rifle, would sit next to the driver of the stagecoach and keep a lookout.
@@gromester1092 my mistake you learn something new every day, thanks!
@@MASO204 👍
Cameron mentioned in an interview after this premiered that he borrowed the idea from two screenplays Harlan Ellison wrote for the Outer Limits. Ellison sued and won, that's why it has the acknowledgement to his works at the end of the film. It was part of the settlement.
@johnkeenan1829 Demon with the glass hand! The soldier!
Your face expressions during this reaction were amazing Coby :) Great reaction.
Very beautiful Coby! Awesome reaction! Thank you! 😊😊
Glad you enjoyed it !!
‘The word “unblowupable” is tossed around a lot these days…’
This is the reaction I have been waiting for, because you rock!
thank you !!
"I came to this watch-along for you Coby. I love you and I always have." Too much? A guy's gotta try, eh? If only movie lines worked in real life.
Coby I can't express this any stronger than you need to watch part 2 right away! Love your reactions.❤
thanks, coming soon !
LOL @@criminalcontent when I was born in '95,
my dad wanted to name me Sara,
& my mom goes, "Why don't we name her Sarah after T2."
...so I've always been Sarah the Terminator LOL
(or Gravy, after my dog Gravydog)
I love it when they get so caught up in the movie that they start talking to it. Never gets old.
The first Terminator movie, one of Cameron's early works, was a low budget movie. But it was so successful, that Terminator 2 became the most expensive movie ever made until then, the first one to exceed a budget of 100 million dollars. That is what made James Cameron the big budget juggler he became. With T2, Titanic and Avatar he broke the record for the most expensive movie three times. Well, two of them also were the most successful movies ever made by then, Titanic being the first one to make over a billion dollars at the box offices, Avatar the first one beating 2 billion.
And while Terminator 2 did not make it on top of the list, it was still one of the most successful movies made by then. And a big commercial success, despite its crazy production costs.
You will LOVE T2 and get much more insight into the reason for things still not clear.
All the Terminator films are worth watching for the story arch but for me T2 is the cherry on top.
You will love Terminator 2:Judgment Day
Coby at 33:35 says no one has seen a toothbrush for days… “Love ❤️ does not require a toothbrush”. 😂
You rinse your mouth in the shower. Actually effective. Besides, it's a movie. They might have gotten basic supplies as they couldn't have gone without food for a really long time and you just don't show everything in the required run time. Not much of a stretch. Would be different if they were stranded on an island with no supplies.
Reese has been wearing a homeless man's pants with no underwear for several days too
But it doesn't hurt to have one handy, lol.
They didn’t floss either, which is as or more important.
Maybe, but playing tonsil hockey does require oral hygeine 😂👅👄🦷
He singed his eyebrows off when he ran through the flames in the alley. He DID have them at the beginning. Yes, Arnie's catchphrase was born in this movie.
No, trust me on that one: there are only TWO Terminator movies.
I agree. The first movie asks a question, and the second movie answers it.
I know, right? There are these weird rumors that they made a third but it's not true and the world is better this way.
Well there has been some big budget fan films based on the property, but only 2 actual films.
But there is also a great TV show, that sadly was canceled way to early : "Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles" with Lena Headey and Summer Glau.
Also the other Game of Thrones collab with Khaleesi is really underrated imho. Of course not comparable to 1 and 2, but its still a quite good movie.
I was 18 when I saw this in the theater. It blew me away. We never seen anything like this before. The stop motion and practical effects are amazing! T2 is even better! 🤞✌
I know 😊😊
I love watching people watch this movie. It's my favorite movie. I enjoyed this.
Thank you !
It is hard to imagine now that "The Terminator" and "Alien" were stand alone films when they first came out. For both of them it was around 7 years before a sequel came out. Looking at all the dozens of sequels it is easy to think that they were made as franchise films when they were not.
Almost in the first scene with the three guys, the blue haired is Bill Paxton, a very well known actor who appeared in Titanic, Aliens or Twister, among another ones.
He's absolutely brillaint in Edge of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise as well :D
True Lies
I saw this in the theater with a few friends when it was first released, we were in the first row closest to the screen. We were blown away, it was the coolest movie we had ever seen. Now people aren't as easily impressed
The problem is 3 fold: people with short attention spans, people who are hard to please and know everything, and the industry churning out woke crap far too often
There were only 3 Sarah Conners in the phone book when she was looking at it in the bar. The terminator knew it was the right Sarah since she was the only one left.
Unless, of course, she had an unlisted number. Or the phone was in Ginger's name. Or she had no phone at all. I'm wondering how the terminator would ever know if he got the right one.
@@TheChapelGrove Reese said Skynet knew very little about Conners mother so I assume it was a gamble for them too
@@TheChapelGroveAs a machine, he would logically start with the phone book, because it’s the most accessible form of information and eliminate in ascending order until all known resources were exhausted. Not to mention, he could’ve done a simple search on her in the police cruiser computer near the beginning.
Well a second clue that he now had the right Sarah was that someone was protecting her. She must be important. Also the terminator may also know who kyle is.......
He didn't actually have to know. He would just kill the third one then start looking for other possible Sarah Connors that aren't easy to find. Why dig for unlisted numbers when you can just start with the listed ones first?
Also, if The Terminator knew that Reese was from the future, then he would know he had the correct Sarah Connor.
42:20 In one of the deleted scenes that takes place as Sarah is taken away in the ambulance the camera pulls back and it is revealed that the factory that the terminator was killed in, was, in fact, the factory in which he was built. Cyberdyne Systems.
Exactly
Coby, there are 6 Terminator movies. The first two are the best, but some of the others are worth a look at least if you're a sci-fi nut. I remember I was in the wardroom of the USS Caloosahatchee in the Indian Ocean when I first saw this movie in 1984. Hope you like 👍
acceptable answers to the question are either 2 or 3, depending on if you count dark fates
-The terminator fled from police because it was damaged in the crash
-his eyebrows were singed off in the fire
-skynet didn’t know what Sarah Conner looked like as she spent her life living “off the grid” to prepare for this future
-There are only 2 terminator movies.
Months after this movie came out, they held a special midnight showing in a lecture hall at the University of Boulder, Colorado. It was a friggin' PARTY. This movie was HUGE at the time.
The Terminator and Back to the Future made me love time travel films, but this one really opened the door to the concept of AI in sci-fi films. Great reaction from Coby, I'm sure we will all agree for her to watch Terminator 2. It was the long awaited sequel that really pays off.
I mean, AI had appeared in sci-fi films many times beforehand, maybe most famously (by 1984) in "2001: A Space Odyssey". Killer robots/androids appeared in "Westworld" in 1973. Killer AI from "Colossus: The Forbin Project" (1970), "Demon Seed" (1977) etc. years previously. Hell even "War Games" was before this (albeit only by a year).
_Maybe_ this made it a more _mainstream_ idea but the door was already wide open IMO.
@@anonymes2884 My point was that this film opened 'MY' eyes to the concept of AI, and because of my age this film resonated with me at the time. I wasn't old enough to appreciate some of those other films or had seen them at the time this film caught my attention.
8:38 "He doesn't even ask questions or want anything from her. He's just trying to kill Sarah Connor."
Of course. He's a Terminator. 😄
You have to remember that James Cameron was still making low budget B-movies at the time. This film was a bit of a step up but still only had a $6.5M budget. It was cool to see them get so much out of the small budget. And Arnold was pretty much a punchline to a joke back then, even though he'd starred in a couple of Conan films. It seemed like that's all the public would accept from him. No one expected to see him in a contemporary thriller. This film showcased his screen presence and he took off to star in a few more action films soon after, even though his accent and awkward acting style were still present. Ultimately this film made around $78M, which was a huge return on the investment. Seven years later the much fancier and colder sequel would cost over $100M. The "good guy" Michael Biehn would appear in Cameron's "Aliens." Cameron would eventually marry Linda Hamilton.
Lance Henriksen, was in Aliens too.
As was Bill Paxton, who played one of the punks at the beginning of the film.
I think the accent kinda adds to the Terminator though. It kinda rings of robotic voice synthesizer that hasn't quite nailed down human speech yet, but it's passable as a heavy accent. Also, I see people complain that Arnold blinks when a gun is fired, while Rober Patrick didn't, but I'm here to say that it's explicitly stated that the T1000 is a prototype, whereas the T800 model 101 (Arnold) is a production model. The T1000 might not have all the bugs worked out yet (in fact, comic lore says that SkyNet sent the T1000 as a last resort because the T1000 was dangerously smart and not quite finished), which could have caused some of it's less human-looking mannerisms. A Terminator that blinks and responds like a human would is a better infiltrator. Robert Patrick really nailed his performance though, along with Arnold
33:18 Yeah, the whole thing is one big bootstrap paradox. John sent Reese back in time to save his mother and to ensure John's birth, in turn, leading to John sending Reese back in time.
The movie is a time travel paradox. It’s why it works so well. It forms a perfect loop. There are other franchises that have done this as well. Great reaction BTW.
He knows who he's looking for now because after Sarah called Ginger he saw her photo ID at the apartment.
No greenscreen no cgi no Computer Effekts. That’s the 80s
They used to do blue screens. Exactly the same principle, but for celluloid films.
If you read the book, there is information they did not use for the movie. The Terminator and the machines did not have any more information on Sarah than that she had been in the hospital and had a pin in her left leg. Arnold went down the list and killed each one, cutting open the left leg looking for the pin. Unfortunately, Sarah wouldn't have had one as she did not get the pin until the T-800 blew up and a piece pierced her left causing damage to the bone. Not something they could easily explain in the movie without slowing the pace down. You are usually spot on catching faces of other actors, so was surprised you did not notice Lance Henrikson (the 2nd detective) or Michael Biehn (Reese), or Bill Paxton (rainbow mohawk punk). All three are in Aliens as well.
Number 2 is a must-see. Can't wait for you to do that one. Love your reactions!
My belief is the baby in Sarah’s belly at the end of this film is a different John from the one that sent Kyle back from the future. The time travel element immediately sets up a new timeline of events, with Sarah now able to better train John from an early age to be an even better future leader than the one in Kyle’s timeline. But the machines will also be more advanced in this timeline, for reasons that will become clear if you continue watching. And you should, for at least one more film, since Terminator 2 is quite possibly the greatest sci-fi action blockbuster of all time.
This was the best reaction-vid as far as content as most reaction hosts conclude at about 34 minutes. This host, Coby, was also gracious enough to spare us from non-stop personal dialogue while other hosts ramble on ad infinitum! Well done Coby!
16:23: *”Come with me if you want to live.”*
Remember that for the sequel. 😎
There are (real) no sequels after that.
And I'll be back.
The timeloop paradox IS the premise and it's a prominent aspect of 2 of the films and referenced in all of them. Hence, no fate but what we make. No one truly knows how the war started because of the paradox.
The way that Colby is trying to figure out the whole chicken and egg situation with Reese, future, John Connor situation is quite funny and mental gymnastics. Everyone who grew up watching all the late 70’s to 90’s classic movies had to do all these gymnastics and go through all the arguments with themselves and everyone who watched these movies. Reminds me of the episode the Big Bang episode where Amy, Bernadette, and Penny read a comic and start arguing over who is right. Colby reminds me of the ladies from that episode
Ya know, it just hit me what a testament it is to Kyle Reese that he faced down the Terninator on his own at the night club, and the 30 cops at the police station were wiped out. It's his experience with these terminators and his combat experience that makes the difference. And no criticism of the cops, for they had no idea what they were dealing with and were taken by surprise. Kyle is one bad dude! He was truly the one for the job.
Terminator 2 is one of those rare instances where the sequel actually meets or exceeds the original. Can't wait for you to watch it.
T2 wasn't a patch on the original......................
Not even close to the first.
It's also very interesting regarding the Polaroid photo of Sara with the dog and the bandana. That is the picture that Reese has that causes him to fall in love with Sara and in the end you will notice the instant the picture was taken, Sara is thinking of her love for Reese ("in the hours we had we loved a lifetime's worth").
Better than Romeo and Juliet.😅😅
The first couple of terminator movies are arguably some of the best science/fiction action adventure movies ever made... After that the quality drops significantly - even as budgets gets much larger...great reaction. Looking forward to the sequel.
Seeing the endoskeleton as a kid was amazing. And seeing T2 in the theatre was incredible. Can’t wait for the reaction!!!
Me too 🤣
17:15 - interesting note, the young cop is played by William Wisher, the actual author of the script for Terminator & T2. They gave him a small cameo in the film.
What book?
@PhysicalMediaPreventsWea-bx1zm Sorry, I meant to say "script." I corrected it.
I’m not saying a thing…. You’re gonna love it!
Great movie (2 is even better), but the most shocking thing in this video is Coby was born in '84! I would have guessed at least 10 years younger.
in June. Same month as my birthday.
srsly thought she was genz.
@@zedwpdsame here, thought she was at least 10 years younger. My birthday happens to be in June also :-)
@@krono5elnow that’s a stretch
I wouldn’t.
Get out of here! You've never seen The Terminator before? This I'm excited about!
I love the photo moment. Kyle asks that he was wondering what she was thinking in that moment of the photo. If you flip to the end, she was thinking of him. Another crazy loop moment.
People at work haven't seen the Terminator and it reminds me that I'm old now.
Woman your smile is breathtaking!
Great reaction. And yeah, Kyle being the dad, but not knowing he was the father, it is the whole terminator paradox. And keep watching. Terminator 2 is quite possibly the best sequel ever, if not, then #2 behind Godfather 2.
Fun fact: The guy whose voice you hear Sarah play on her answering machine, the guy with the Porche who blew her off, cancelling their date....was actually James Cameron. 😉
And Connor's father before Reese took over the father figure in this new timeline.Maybe 😂😉
@@CDee-if9og John Connor never had a different father. It is always Kyle Reese.
@@mrb2349 In linear time it makes ZERO sense.
@@CDee-if9og why? You have a time machine. As soon as you have a time machine, causality is preserved only from the time traveler's point of view.
@@mrb2349 I have typed out 2 replies to you no cussing,no intimidation and RUclips deems it necessary to delete them.
The question you posed about how "John wouldn't exist if he didn't send Kyle" is what made the Terminator franchise so great. This paradox is one of the lynchpins of this whole saga. There have been countless debates and fan theories. There's one that states that Skynet (which can be considered a superintelligence) understands this paradox and actually propogates this time travel loop to assure its own existence. Could the leftover T-800 parts be the things that started Skynet? Humans may have never conceived Skynet if there was no terminator in our time to begin with.
I saw the light come on when Reese said "He's about my height." You picked up that he was the father. (Most reactors get it, or start suspecting, during that scene. You got it THAT SECOND.)
Arnold's eyebrows are gone because Reese shot the gas tank of a car and the terminator was near the explosion. When he jumps on the car, he's on fire. The missing eyebrows are because they were burned off. That's not really pointed out and a lot of people don't get that until they've seen this more than once.
The other terminator that Reese remembers was played by Franco Colombu, Arnold's training partner during his competitive bodybuilding days and fellow Mr. Olympia.
Tunnel is near Bradbury bldg. same one that is in Gattica.
ah thanks !
Oh and blade runner. Most every tunnel you ever see that isn’t in the hills north of LA or north of SF 😊
Right, it’s the 2nd Street tunnel, which they enter on the Hill Street end. Diagonally across the block and almost due south is the Bradbury Building at 3rd and Broadway.
JFC you were born in 1984? I'd never have put you in my age bracket, 82 baby. Though, now your intelligent insights into movies make more sense. Great channel & choice of movie picks 👏
Yeah, I’m still trying to wrap my head around Coby being 40 years old. I keep re-running the numbers and the only thing that makes sense is that my math skills have left the building.
@@johndaily263 🤣🤣
What gets me is that John Connor knew Reese was his father. He gave him Sarah's picture and told him stories about her to make him fall in love with her and volunteer to go back and protect her.
Also, Sarah was a waitress. It was this experience that made her the kind of person who would raise the savior of humanity. If the machines hadn't sent the Terminator, John Connor would have never been born and Sarah would have never become the kind of person who could raise a leader.
John groomed a motherf♤r, that's what you sayin...
You think Sarah left suggestions in a tape?
"John, please, six feet tall with abs. And hair, don't send me a goddamn goblin. You want good genes, son."
since they implied he picked up reese pretty young was he grooming a child?
If John Connor hadn’t been born the machines never would’ve sent the Terminator back in the first place.
@@bluecollartradesman715 We're dealing with a future where John was born. But by sending the Terminator to stop John from being born, they insured the very thing they wanted to prevent. But they had to send the Terminator back to insure something we learn in the next film. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
@@johnpaullogan1365 In a way. He was definitely manipulating him. But it was for the good of humanity.
27:20 At that range, even with a modern ballistic plate, each shot is like getting punched in the chest. And at that range, it's like a "Mike Tyson wants to hurt you" punch.
One thing to note is that Terminator's budget was only $6 million which was a lower budget even for the day. For example Footloose, released the same year, had an $8 million budget for a simple comedy/drama. Beverly Hills Cop was around a $13 million budget. Big budget films at the time were in the 25-30+ million range. Considering the Sci-Fi/time travel story and what it was able to convey visually I honestly believe it to be one of the most impressive films of all time.
Another classic from 1984 (besides Coby 😎) 🦾
Coby was born in 1984?
@@TacShooter Yes. She posted it last month. Look at her intro here, to her reaction to The Phantom Menace.
@@JedHead77 - Plus she actually said so early in this video.
It would have been wild if she was born 12 may 1984
Coby, it's called a paradox! The causality (Reese chooses to go back --> Sarah gets pregnant) is "out of order" to chronology (Sarah gets pregnant in 1984 --> Reese chooses to go back 40 years in the future). The mind-bendiness is part of the fun. Glad you enjoyed the movie.
Bootstrap paradox
He was chosen. John Connor would have groomed him for it, which is why he gave him the picture.
Sarah was recording the instructions to send Reese, "or you'll never be born".
So many react channels are thrown by the sudden lack of eyebrows on Arnie. Can't blame them all; the movie doesn't do enough to link the fireball to his change in appearance. Showing the fire on his face, or even a clearer view of his face when he's about to punch the windshield, would have helped.
Sweet baby Jesus... have you seen Tropic Thunder? There's a line in there meant for you.
After Arnold comes through the flames and jumps on the hood, they clearly show his face, with smoke coming off of it. And you can clearly see his eyebrows are gone.
I swear, the younger people are the more they need an explanation that water is wet...
I saw the terminator in 1984 in the theatre... I have all of the terminator movies... I loved seeing your reactions during the movie.. good stuff!
33:30 the way that I see it in order to get over the whole ‘temporal paradox’ thing, is that John Connor’s father was originally some random guy. Then, Reece was sent back and he becomes John’s dad, but because the father is now a different person, the next John Connor is different from the original John Connor. And when Reece is born in this new future, he is also a new Reece due to the butterfly effect. It’s complicated, but it explains any conflicts with the space/time reality.
That would mean that each iteration of the loop would have a different John Connor and a different Kyle Reese, and they would keep changing without end, or at least until something went terribly wrong with the whole sequence.
Even my 88 year old German father awoken, spotting on the big screen Coby saying "what a pretty girl" !!!!
Lance Hendrickson and Bill Paxton are in a pretty exclusive club. They're the only actors that have been unalived by the terminator, Aliens and Predator.
When did an alien kill Lance Henriksen?
That is such an awesome reveal, I have never put that together. Good one. 👍👌
@Jaydogg222 He was in two Alien films. Aliens where he was the Android and got ripped in two right at the end. Then he was in the third one as the creator of the Andriods but I don't think he was actually unalived in that one. That is where Ripley dies because she is carrying an Alien.
I don't recall Paxton or Henrikson in Predator.
Michael Biehn is in an even more exclusive club, as the love interest of Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley, the most iconic female action heroes.
love coby and her reaction videos.
"No one has seen a toothbrush for days"......... 🤣🤣 Made laugh.... but probably not their biggest worry right now....
Kyle mentions he was born after the war, so it's safe to say even in his timeline, which is one possible future of Sarah's present, Sarah Connor was also impregnated by him, after coming from the future in his timeline, and it just cycles infinitely in that way.
First... "The Terminator" was made on basically an Indi budget which is so impressive.
Second... The correct answer is there are only TWO Terminator movies. 😉
EDIT: No, the timeline is in 1984, the machine war didn't happen until later.
i'll count dark fates. it is a huge step down but you have arnold, linda, and james back. it counts, though i almost wish it didn't
@@johnpaullogan1365 No way. "Dark Fate" is the worst one of them all. The fact that those three are associated with it means absolutely NOTHING. You can count what ever you want but it doesn't change that "TDF" is a terrible movie.
The only one that gets a little respect is "Salvation" because at least they tried something newish.
As I said, there are only TWO Terminator movies.
Lance Henriksen, who played Traxler’s partner Hal was James Cameron’s original choice to play the Terminator.
I thought OJ was. At least that's what I've read.
@@jeremybrooks7415 no. OJ was Not James Cameron’s choice. He was a studio suggestion. They wanted someone with name recognition. Lance didn’t have that at the time.
@@richardmark9161 didn't know the studio wanted him. Sorry.
@@jeremybrooks7415 so many stories. They all get jumbled and confusing to keep up with.
@@richardmark9161 Lance as a Terminator would make more sense. More unassuming.
"It's 2024 right now and we're still okay."
*looks around*
Well...
The key to watching time travel movies is to not think too much about the implications of time travel. I might be misremembering so others can correct me but, way back in 1984, we didn’t expect to see Arnold play the bad guy, so that was kind of brilliant.
18:58 19:07 _"Does he have eyebrows?"_
@4:34, you'll notice that Arnold does have eyebrows in the beginning of the film. The reason he doesn't have eyebrows later on is because they burned off when Arnold ran through the fire @16:54. It wasn't makeup.
Kyle should’ve picked up some fresh pants in that store
Not needed
@@SkemeKOS why not?
@@kunserndsittizen2655 the bums pants seemed like a perfect fit, they also looked clean and nicely ironed, so why bother?
@@MikeG82 I could smell them through the screen
@@kunserndsittizen2655 Sarah hooked up with him after barely knowing him a day, they smelled fine i'm sure
Hi Coby, cool it's awesome you've seen this sci-fi classic :) it's one of Arnie's best. Please react to Terminator 2 soon, it's the GOAT sequel! And, spoiler alert, Arnie is back! You're one of my favourite Popcorn Roulette reactors.
Wow you are the youngest looking 40 year old ever
Coby just laughing through her gross-out totally made my day.
Dude I’m sure everyone is thrilled for you to react to T2. I love this movie. Kyle is so great and Michael Biehn (sp?) is spectacular in the part. Obviously Arnold is perfect as the Terminator. I love that she’s thinking of her love for Kyle as that pic is taken and Kyle stares at it in the future wondering what she’s thinking…