Metal Mythos: DARKTHRONE
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- A complete career retrospective of Norwegian Black Metal legends: DARKTHRONE!
Table of Contents:
00:01:32 - Soulside Journey (1991)
00:05:28 - A Blaze in the Northern Sky (1992)
00:07:55 - Under a Funeral Moon (1993)
00:10:44 - Transilvanian Hunger (1994)
00:14:10 - Panzerfaust (1995)
00:17:00 - Total Death (1996)
00:19:22 - Ravishing Grimness (1999)
00:22:11 - Plaguewielder (2001)
00:23:44 - Hate Them (2002)
00:25:49 - Sardonic Wrath (2004)
00:28:27 - The Cult is Alive (2006)
00:31:58 - F.O.A.D. (2007)
00:34:22 - Dark Thrones and Black Flags (2008)
00:36:56 - Circle the Wagons (2010)
00:38:46 - The Underground Resistance (2013) 
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"If the singer is the cookie monster...shit's death metal. If the singer is one of the ringwraiths, that shit is black metal." Perfect explanation!
Oooh! vs. Aaah!
Stolen Halo Accurate
I'm starting to believe Yoko might be Black Metal Incognita
Also, Death is on the lower frx and Black on the high end..
And if it’s a whiny little piss, then it’s Motley Crue
It doesn't matter how antisocial, misanthropic, or contrarian a movement is when it begins - someone is guaranteed to commercialize it and dilute whatever original message and aesthetic it once possessed.
I actually got to watch the downfall of the norwegian metal scene first hand as I am actually Norwegian. What happened was what has happenes to many music scenes. It got big, that attracted the posers who were in it for the money, not the music, they got bigger than the bands with actual talent, and the whole thing implodes in on itself.
The trigger was the murder case against Varg, along with the various church burnings, which made national news, got those involved in the scene a lot of attention, and started making them money. People realized that shock sold better than music, and so the leaders of the scene became not those who were great artist, but those who were great publicists. What people saw were burning bibles, pigs heads tossed out into the audience, showers of blood, lots of goofy satanic imagery and a bunch of guys having a pissing contest of "evilness". The scene never really recovered after that I guess.
you needed to live in norway to realize that?
Magnus Sandvik no.
This is proof that no matter what country you're from or genre of music you like, hipsters and posers ruin it when it gets popular. I saw this happen in Canada in the late 90's with nu metal, pop punk, and even hip hop. Metal and punk have recovered somewhat because hipsters and posers can never really embrace music genres that are anti-establishment to their core. Hip hop, however.... sells out still when the glorification of money is a genre's mainstream lyrical content
Azazel Acheron lol no? Have you watched Lords of Chaos since you have this opinion? Literally no one cared about Euro’s death. That might be because he sent death threats to everybody including Varg. And he supposedly also heard the deaththreats directly from Euro.
@Azazel Acheron Nazi's don't exist anymore. You probably meant Neo-Nazi, which Varg is not.
It’s crazy how many albums they’ve released since this video.
right?
Not really. Same amount they released in the 8 years prior to the video.
Would be incredibly nice to see updated episodes of this
The new ones are pretty good too
@Eirik_Bloodaxe Hipster garbage. Not worth any effort
Ooh, Darkthrone! I should watch this in 240p
best comment.
144p for trve kvlt
@@levimcelravy294 On a 1st gen video phone, or a win95 sub-500mhprocesor PC for further kvlt.
Listens to Darkthrone once...
Lol
WHY, exactly, is it pretentious for a norwegian to, um, write lyrics in norwegian?
Because the music they are making did not originate there. Hence why Bathory, Celtic Frost, Hellhammer all these bands were in English. Saying you can only make black metal if its Norwegian is quite pretentious however.
Obviously you choosing to write it in Norwegian because you want to is something else. I for that matter fully embrace the idea of bands writing it in their own language, wether that is Swedish, Norwegian, Dutch, German, French etc. I wouldn't care less.
based huuttis most music came from Africa? Is that where sound originates? How about the Sky? How about air? Does air come from Africa?
@@OaksArmorial The dude is smoking some heavy shit.
@based huuttis Do you have any evidence to support that?
@@dalazo there's also the fact that bands like Darkthrone and Burzum were part of "true Norwegian black metal" so it makes sense to me that they'd have lyrics in Norwegian.
I can't wait for Darkthrone's next dubstep album.
You say that but Fenriz is actually a techno DJ at a Norwegian nightclub so wouldn't be too far fetched.
He said that he would never incorporate EDM into Darkthrone because that's not what the Darkthrone project is about
Techno is vastly different from dubstep.
I wouldn't be suprised.
He plays at my local fav bar. Finest minimal techno. I am 46, I love both metal and techno, I was there..back then ;)
best show on youtube , hands down
Unit #522, you still watching these.?
I love how all my favourite RUclips’s seem to be into each other’s stuff even though they have nothing to do with each other. Granted it doesn’t surprise me that a guy who narrates creepy stories also is into Black Metal!
Still true.
Agreed
I forgot how unbelievably well-done this guy’s videos are. Great to revisit.
Cookie Monster vs. Ringh Wraiths: Best fucking musical differentiation. Ever!
00:37 extreme metal
01:44 black vs death
05:00 fenriz
08:34 black metal features
10:10 black and death vocals
10:55 the whole album
12:36 non-english lyrics haha and Portland
14:20 hacky films and church burning (15:45)
17:13 black thrash
19:32 hacky black metal bands (Dimmu Borgir…)
23:57 hate them
28:34 the death of darkthrone and the reasons
32:40 fascinating origins of razor
33:12 hipster black metal
36:32 retro metal and homages
37:37 Throne of Katarsis is the shiittiest?
38:57 vocalists who can sing and NWOTHM
i highly disagree his opinion about ToK being unoriginal or shit, it's my fav band for many reasons, their riffs arent the same overused chord progressions every other bm band uses/steals that you've definitely heard a dozen of times already. their riffs are evil as fuck, original (i mean it) i've never gone a day without listening to them since i discovered them, great acoustic guitars on first 2 albums, their blast beats weren't made up in 5 minutes and they play with varied cymbal hits, infamroth has only done genuine screaming vocals and not those forced highs many other vocalists do, maybe he said it because their songs are long as fuck, apart from their ved graven album. but either infamroth or vardalv stated in a interview once they don't appreciate short songs with a quick blast and a couple of riffs, they described their 4th (last album) with the 3 long ass songs that they were to make you lose track of time. still surprised he even mentioned them, i stumbled across them from Farvanns top 10 favourite bm albums video.
"you see? big sunglasses, not emperor sunglasses, BIG SUNGLASSES"
best interview ever
Artic Thunder was pretty damn good.
It’s great
Agreed.
You criticize Burzum for ripping of Bathory but you don't even mention that half of Darkthrone's discography is just recycled Celtic Frost
brzum sucks tho
@Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls wait till you hear their new album. One song is just an AC/DC riff made with added strumming
@@matthiasthulman4058Which one?
@@TheNewAgeGamer97 The Hardship of the Scots
Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls great coven reference with the user name
To be honest, I never considered Soulside Journey as proper Darkthrone.
Your description of Transilvanian Hunger is absolutely perfect. This is my favourite Darkthrone album.
Great video man, could not disagree more with your assessment of the death metal genre, but to each their own.
I'll be completely honest; while I'm not a fan of Death- or Black Metal, and enjoy almost all the other bands you've covered on Music/Metal Mythos more (Queen, Motörhead, Judas Priest, Dokken, etc), this is probably my favorite Metal Mythos episode.
Why? Because it's such a fascinating dive into the history of what are clearly talented people abandoning what made them great (A Blaze in the Northern Sky and Circle the Wagons don't even sound like the same band to me), and what is clearly a fans disillusionment with the same band. Thank you, Razör', for this absolutely fascinating look into Darkthrone and their discography.
An updated take on the albums that have come out since this was made would be good. I feel like they really came back around in a great way. While the crust punk stuff was nice in its own right (though my least favorite of their eras), for me Arctic Thunder and Old Star marked a triumphant return to form. With Eternal Hails and Astral Fortress showcasing an even more fantastic growth towards a matured, old school sound. I feel like those two are the ones I end up spinning more than the rest these days. Really fucking with the cold caveman riffage lately.
Imo Under a Funeral Moon is the best album that Darkthrone have ever released. A Blaze used to be my favorite for a few years, but Under a Funeral Moon really grows on you after repeated listens. A masterpiece.. I also agree that Total Death is another great album in their discography. Probably my 2nd favorite as well. Highly underrated.
Transylvanian hunger won me over as a dark thrown fan. That song sounded like my soul. The part of my soul I can’t express verbally. Love that song. It’s So comforting.
Panzerfaust is my favorite BM album of all time. Quintessence is unironically the best Darkthrone track ever since I first heard it about 6 years ago.
Would have to agree with that not sure what it is but its just got a special air and coldness to it.
I'm not really into black metal (I love listening to Razor's passion for the genre and the story of the scene more than the music itself), and I love Quintessence
Quintessence is not a very black metal song
Quintessence is a banger. My favorite is Where Cold Winds Blow, that blast beat is insane.
Pretty harsh on death metal and dismissive of late 80 to early 90s classics. Entitled to your opinion but shit man missing out many classics
Second wave bm was a direct antagonistic response to late 80s/early 90s death metal honestly if people are dismissing top tier dm albums can you really blame them?
Its a shame that great bands like Death, Morbid Angel and Carcass are lumped into the same scene as mediocre at best bands like Deicide and Cannibal Corpse.
@@sole__doubt I think I left Individual Thought Patterns in my last car :(
Razör actually likes Morbid Angel and Death.
@@sole__doubt Deicide? Cannibal Corpse? Mediocre? What the fuck? Deicide has kinda sucked since 3rd album, but first 2, despite poor production, are some of the most amazing death metal albums, the riffs, the time signatures, the double growls, the drumming, duuuude. And Eaten Back to Life through Vile are filled with top notch hooks and some of the best bass playing in the OSDM scene (Addicted to the Vaginal Skin is a prime example).
I appreciate the fact you don't dumb your language down, you speak complexly and it makes you a lot easier to understand.
Your so biased towards burzum it's ridiculous. Its one thing to not like the music but calling it talentless and a bathory rip off is completely unfounded. The only song by Burzum that sounds like a Bathory rip off is war, and thats where it ends. I suspect you are biased because you dont like Varg as a person.
He doesn't like Yngqie Malmsteen as a person, but still gives him praise.
*against burzum
Hes also a self admited bathory fan boy. But it's all a matter of opinion.
Burzum IS black metal
Burzum is one of The best black metal "bands" to have ever existed. This dude is just very strong about his opinions as if they are 100% fact... No better than a Christian (no offense Christians 😂)
Please do one on Mayhem man! These videos are gold!
Mayhem couldn't get their act together to do more than 1 and a half albums in 7 years. What is there to talk about, in terms of pre-1996 output.
Ill take ring wraith over Cookie Monster any day.
Keoni Anderson same
Fuck yes. A Blaze in the Northern Sky is what got me into black metal.
+SacredBurn0ut Me too ;)
Darkthrone is phenomenal. Heavily Celtic Frost influenced among other greats in extreme metal. Their last 4 records are in my regular rotation. They’ve gotten more rock & roll and doom reminiscent as of late. Despite your disdain for Death Metal, my favorite genre, I deeply appreciate the well researched video. That’s fucking proper journalism. Well done.
Darkthrone IS Black Metal! Nothing surpassed their greatness.
1:57 thank you. I’ve just got into metal music and this is a great distinguish
Soulside Journey is one of the greatest - not to mention criminally underrated - DM albums of all time imo, and I was genuinely pissed when they transitioned to Black Metal.
To me, Transilvanian Hunger sounds like a reference to vampires.
Quite possible!! Vampires are classed as dark creatures in some cultures!!
Well Transylvania did have a history of vampires, right..? ;)
It's a reference to Mayhem vocalist Dead who had committed suicide while he happened to be wearing a shirt that said "I ❤ Transilvania" hence the unorthodox spelling.
@@josh_fisher No but they did have a ruler literally called Dracula who was so ruthless people used to say he'd dip his bread in blood.
@@lordtrigon1733 Actually his t-shirt said Transylvania so I guess it was a spelling mistake, who knows...
Quintessence is the main forerunner for the argument that you should listen to black metal with decent sound system or head phones if you are obsessed with music or guitar playing. Most covers play all the riffs in a robotic 4/4 downstroking way, but the song is literally full of alternative chord strummage and dwidleledees if you listen hard enough. Gives me joy everytime I find another derivation from the main formula of the song most people take it as intended.
I don't think Soulside Journey is weak at all
Hey !!
The Norwegian language is beautiful, and fits spectaculary with certain fantastic Black Metal songs !!
There's magnificent Black Metal albums consisting completely of songs in Norwegian, so good, in fact, that foreigners spanning the entire world love them without understanding a word, and actually pushes them to make the efford to learn the laguage !!
I agree. I started learning norwegian years ago because I wanted to understand the lyrics. As a german it is not THAT hard thoug, if you once get the point one can relate quite easily to many words. Very common example: "snakker" means "sprechen" in german, not that similar but in several regions in Germany people say "schnacken". The affinity is quite obvious.
If I may add: The funniest norwegian word is "Bløtkake" which is a certain type of cake. Written its completley different but when pronounced its german for "stupid shit" (=blöd Kacke)
I really appreciated this video.
As someone who back during this time was a high school freshman more into Korn, and since it doesn't fit my life outlook in any regard, I frankly have never known shit about black metal. And compared to you and most of the commenters I still don't.
However, this was a worthwhile educating experience...I look forward to more Mythos.
The best review on Datkthrone ever!!! Correct arguments, correct song review and correct points (the only thing you forgot is the review on the artworks)!!! Continue uploading content like this and for other great black metal bands!!!
Metal mythos... VENOM? Or Bathory? any of these would be dope. Love these videos!
Raptor Jesus Yes, fucking SODOM
A Bathory one is coming with very little of a doubt
Enter the Pandemonium is my jam son.
Bathory mythos is here!
Bathory Mythos has happened!
Shitting on Varg for plagiarism when sucking off Darkthrone. I love Darkthrone but Fenriz openly talks about where he got most of their riffs and sounds from, which funny enough includes heavy influences from Varg himself.
I am sure the only Burzum inspired riffs Fenriz has ever made was for the album Transilvanian Hunger, 2 songs on Panzerfaust and 1 riff on Total Death. Burzum is probably the biggest inspiration of modern Black Metal, but not Darkthrone..
Varg ripped off Bathory and Manes you hilarious gen-z shit.
It's one thing to be inspired by an artist and completely another to straight up copy an artist.
With the exception of maybe one or 2 albums i love all Darkthrone records in their own way, especially the last 5. But to each his own ofcourse. Love the episode anyway. Cheers.
I am wearing a DARKTHRONE shirt and watching this
Darkthrone mighty Darkthrone
It's not every day you see someone talking about Darkthrone while wearing an Yngwie Malmsteen t-shirt! Nice!!! Keep up the good work!!
I dunno - Fenriz himself has said that, especially the first album, Burzum essential defined the sound of Black Metal. I mean, damn - you may dislike him, but Varg was important to that scene and sound.
All these pansy crybabies get their panties in a bunch over the guy killing someone …. Who cares? The dude he wasted was a POS and he did his time .
None of that takes away his contributions to the genre
UNDER A FUNERAL MOON !!!! BEST BLACK METAL ALBUM EVER !
Idk, storm of the lights bane is pretty fuckin amazing
These are all very strange ways to spell Pentagram by Gorgoroth.
@@randpaul7031 Pentagram is a great album but is not in any way better than Darkthrone first 4 black metal albums.
For your info, as a norwegian i have met very few metalheads here. It sucks. They all spawn at maiden concerts or tons of rock, but otherwise they are hidden
Watching all of your metal mythos series is like taking a class of metal 101 in the university...
very clear explanation and great lecture...thanks man...
Wow, this is strong. Great no bullshit comprehensive takes with some hilarity and much historical context. You have a new subscriber. I haven't yet seen the rest of your channel yet, but please put out more like this :)
My friend; as a rock n Roll aficionado myself - I must commend you on your vast, accurate, superlative and stellar knowledge on all types and styles of rock n roll. And your wit is sharp as a razor. I've been watching every one of your mini documentaries for the past two days and nights. I don't even give a shit if I lose my job for calling in sick this morning so I can avoid this Seattle rain and absorb more of your knowledge and wit. Thank you.
I always thought metal was kind of dumb. And then I found black metal. Burzum is one of my favorites.
I'm sorry that you like Burzum.
@Caesar Nero you dont like Burzum
Bruh listen to Judas Priest at least and report back here (Painkiller álbum HIGHEST recommendation) their shit is the cool side of metal while bands like Darkthrone, Mayhem and Bathory are more atmospheric and dark. Overall Metal is badass. And I say overall cus there are some genres of metal that fractured and fused with different genres that I don’t really like myself (metalcore for instance)
@@outis439-A No because I have taste.
@Caesar Nero No you dont
NEXT!
Funny, eloquent, energetic & interesting work.
Keep it up!
As someone who was initially unenthusiatic when you announced this series, I just want you to know that you convinced me to buy my first metal album (Screaming For Vengeance) and I absolutely love it. Thanks for getting me into the genre, man!
Congratulations! Killer album, timeless inspiration. Thanks for a great comment.
Do a Mercyful Fate/King Diamond review PLEASE!!!!!!!
Duh duh duh duuuuh 2x
Elmo's hell 🎶
Amen! Hail to the King!
Three years later and you got it
boy do I have news for you
I wanna Metal Mythos on Celtic Frost just to see your reaction to Cold Lake.
Darkthrone is my favourite norwegian black metal band, one of the more consistent and genuine! 🤘
SO PURE, SO COLD, TRANSILVANIAN HUNGER!
I can't believe I never noticed the similarities in appearance between Fenriz and Spoony until you pointed it out.
Not a huge fan of death metal but bloodbath’s “Nightmare made flesh” is a must listen for any metal fan to hear what the genre can evoke
The rant about Fenriz (34:37) is actually pretty spot-on...I dig Fenriz for his dedication to keeping the underground and old school metal scene alive (Radio Fenriz podcasts more so than these homage-albums they release every 12 months) but his efforts materialize as little more then a schoolboy cowering in the corner from a bully...the bully here being his own damn work as a angst-filled teenager without enough balls and few enough fucks-given to record Darkthrone's strongest material. I admittedly liked Underground Resistance for awhile...not as a Darkthrone album, but as an easy-listen crust-punk-metal album despite some horrific vocal performances and recycled, lackluster guitar work. Come to think of it...why the fuck do I like Underground Resistance so much? Could really just be nostalgia for a band I adored so much growing up.....come out of the hole and start recording some real, original work again Fenriz.
Dude, I love your mythos series. Thanks for standing for some form of musical standard. Found you after you covered for Sargon, and damn am I glad you did.
Should this video be watched in 144p, for the true kvlt feel?
You're not getting the true Darkthrone experience unless the recording studio is across the street from a busy airport.
Awesome profile pic my black metal brother.
***** Only the blackest, bleakest and darkest for us!
ImTheDruggernaut that is above a bowling alley.
ImTheDruggernaut and recorded with a Nokia mobile from 2005
Love these mythos videos man. But I don't know why you dislike Varg so much. He did not plagiarize Bathory, he was inspired by it, as was everyone else in the second wave. And you say Euronymous founded norwegian black metal? That may be so, but it was still first wave since the Deathcrush EP came out the same time as Sarcofago's I.N.R.I, plus I don't think Burzum sounds anything like Mayhem to be honest with you. Burzum is way more imaginative than Mayhem ever was, and it's ALSO a 'product of isolation'. Perhaps you will do a mythos on Burzum one day?
Abysmal Lord burzums greatest album was filosofem
War was a tribute to Bathory according to Varg.
To reference a statement Razor made on another video (sorry, I can't remember for the life of me which it was), he stated that a Burzum mythos would basically amount to saying "I like the first two albums, but the rest are shit.' Might have been livestream or Dear Rageaholic video where he stated that.
Bruno Rangel No, it was not. Hvis Lyset Tar Oss, was and it is, not only Burzum's best album but Black Metal's second wave best album. Hands down.
@based huuttis Nazi or not, he's still a fucking murderer. Also the whole "Christianity sucks because it's too jewish." shit.
I don't like Black Metal in general, but this video convinced me to check out Darkthrone and...
...I like them, surprisingly, despite my general dislike of the genre. I went out and bought Under a Funeral Moon and have come to very much enjoy that album. So thank you, Razor, for letting me know about a band I'd not bothered to listen to before. Really man, thank you ^^
Fenriz is a very funny guy.
You think Emperor is overrated? Seriously? Subjective taste aside, I think Emperor producing influential and high quality music is an objective fact.
Yeah emporer are musicians, their bathory cover is great afdtd
Under a funeral moon and psnserfaust are my two favorite darkthrone albums, and among my favorite albums of all time. Blaze and hunger are good too, I just enjoy the former two much more.
Please do a Rotting Christ....
Hate Them is one of their absolute best.
Ok ill be honest im a death metal guy
But ive always respected razors grind as a non hipster talking about black metal on youtube since i saw this vid like 7 years ago
I remember seeing 'Transylvanian Hunger' reviewed in the venerable Aussie magazine 'Hot Metal'.
That artwork just always stuck with me.
Simple and effective
I never watched any of these Metal Mythos, but I can't help but be entertained by this outspoken, over the top, yet entertaining asshole, what a way with words! reminds me of my ex-roomate I had years ago. He is perfect for the job.
i just don't think you've listened to good death metal.
Seriously how can a metalhead not like Death? Chuck is the man.
If it's not his style then it's not his style. Plenty of people hate on the stuff he has covered like Stryper and Dokken, why are so many people here adamant that he has to like what they like?
@@sole__doubt
Metalhead here. Never liked death, never liked black. I prefer vocals with a discernable melody.
Would love to see an updated version of this with all the newer albums. Or have you checked out on them?
Hey this guy seems to know what he's talking about...
>Trash talks Varg
Nevermind then.
C'mon man, Varg is cool. But nobody is above criticism.
Indeed. Also, saying every song should be in English? I'm glad I didn't sub
Jeez, calm down. I like some Burzum, but Varg is grossly overrated.
Fuck Kristian Vikernes
@@krishenjalali3266 he is not overrated, hes made some of the most genre defining and best black metal albums there is.
I'm entertained by all Darkthrone albums
So you don't have a mythos for Bathory but you have one for one of their shitty disciples? REALLY?!?
+Wolfgang Von Poserkila - Bathory's my favorite band. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. These episodes are very involved and take weeks to edit. I also love Accept and Anthem, but I have no episode for them yet, either. (The Anthem one alone is going to require me doing a lot of painstaking translation work on some rare interviews) There's only, like, 12 episodes of Mythos altogether. It's still a very new series.
Dig your channel, by the way. Even if you're full of seven shades of shit about Darkthrone. And a knee-jerk contrarian about Painkiller.
+The Rageaholic Bathory's your favorite? I would have easily bet my money on Motorhead.
Thanks for the turning me on to Bane. This is such a fantastic band, handling such a gangantuan sound. I'm loving every second of this tarrasque of an album.
Razorfist: You know you can't write an album that comes close to your first six records"
Darkthrone: *releases arctic thunder*
Razorfist: fuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkk
Umm , he’s still correct , artic thunder is a River of audible diarrhea…. So , yeah…. Nice try
@@Geist_AD Is that why RazörFist levied praise on that album? He said he likes it on Twitter, simple as that.
And you can't pull of Razors extremely wordy way of talking, you just sound like a blatant rip off at best, and a cringy pretentious boob at worst.
Great distinction between death and black metal.
I'd love to see a metal mythos on Electric Wizard
Dude I love your channel. Fucking badass!
I'm 45 and only now getting into black metal 🤘🏻
Underground Resistance is an amazing drinking album, 'Leave No Cross Unturned' might be my favorite Darkthrone song of all time.
Raz0rfist should have put face paint for this review.
Very curious to hear a postscript on the last 3 Darkthrone records.
Indeed. I quite like them.
Last album is golden
I love this bands they sound so much like deafheaven !
Get the fuck out, you're a troll.
Thing about Chuck Schuldiner that separates himself from many "black" metal bands is he was a badass guitar player.
I dont think Chuck was ever considered black metal by anyone at anytime. He was referenced in this video as the inspirational high or low water mark of DEATH metal that lead to the creation of black metal. Some thought he was too tech, they wanted to create a style going another way. I love Chuck and DEATH, have nothing but love and respect.
Black metal has better guitarists lmao
He isn’t black metal…..
@@lordnorthumberland277 Than Chuck? Hope you are kidding yourself.
He's not even close to Black Metal. He's considered one of the defining acts of death metal because he separated the genre from the broad extreme metal label
My opinion? Darkthrone is my favorite of the black metal elite. Cool video. Though, I respectfully disagree with your description of Death Metal... I mean.. Death's "Human"...or for that matter, any of their releases (aside from Scream Bloody Gore, which was a good start, but not a great album) come on bruh! so good.
Death is good, and Cannibal Corpse is at least self-aware.
People love to take extreme sides. They feel part of something to hate the other. Nothing we should not be used to by now.
Takes all types
@Conrad Rich it's not that I think it's bad, it actually is a great, savage death metal record, I won't debate that. But in terms of Death themselves and their entire catalog, and in terms of the direction Chuck took it, I'd say it's the lower point. Again, a great start, but not their best.
Thanks for clearing up some of my confusion on the various sub genres of metal. Awesome video as always. 👍
"It's just screaming". Whenever someone says that to me i roll my eyes especially if that person is a metalhead.
Extreme metal vocals are hard to perform and even harder to do without ruining your voice. If you're a metalhead and a non fan says "It's just screaming" then ask them if they can do it. I guarantee they won't be able to.
I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but why does it matter if it’s difficult or that someone else can’t do it? Saying “it’s just screaming” is derogatory, but coming back with “I bet you can’t!” doesn’t exactly address anything except to say they’re doing it on purpose. I can’t sing like Bruce Dickinson, but what does that have to do with me saying something about how he sings?
Rage that was the best explanation of the difference between dark and death metal!!!!
I would love to see this done with Testament.
I agree, Panzerfaust and Total Death were greatly overlooked and they were awesome albums and my favs!
Hey Razor, love the channel. What are your thoughts on the more recent Darkthrone albums like Arctic Thunder and Old Star? Godspeed \m/!
And Goatlord. You can call me silly but I kind of love its satanic charme and its crazy ideas. Its not the same class as the original 90s run until Total Death, but everybody should give that sucker a fair chance.
Most of the Norwegian scene started as death metal. "Deathcrush" is death metal, and Hellhammer played death metal drums throughout "De Mysteriis dom Sathanas." That shitty band Varg and the Immortal guys played in, Old Funeral, was death metal. Emperor dudes were also playing death metal at first.
Death metal is musical narrative constructed around rhythm whereas black metal is musical narrative constructed around melody. It has nothing to do with the vocals.
You seem to overlook Nocturno Culto's fantastic vocal flexibility. On all the seminal early albums, he had a different vocal approach that fit well with the musical aesthetics and ideas presented in each of the albums. This is so far removed from basically every other metal vocalist that it ought to be noticed by more people.
The Cookie Monster vs LOTR analogy was spot on 🤣🤣
I've always loved all kinds of metal but razorfist has been the one to introduce me to black metal through this review alone. Metal/music mythos are by far some of the best videos on RUclips. Looking forward to seeing more. God. Fucking. Speed!
It was black lord of fenrir who introduced me black metal
I want to see his reaction to the new album old star
Never listened to black metal (looks to my Eddie Van Halen profile picture) but I gotta say how much I appreciate how you can do bands like this to bands like Dokken and MJ in the same series.
Cheers to ya man, good info
Damn, it just got cold as fuck in here.
Love this and this channel
I’m sold..
Awww, how disappointing, that you're not a fan of death metal. Oh well. :)
Very entertaining when I take it all with a pinch of salt. Well done.
Well, you're bashing ambient black metal, dissing it as a hipster thing, while at the same time you harshly criticize modern day "trve" black metal, as well as Darkthrone's more light-hearted and crust punk-oriented stuff.
I get some of your points. I'm my humble opinion, if you're not in the right mindset, Fenriz's vocals may sound horrible, but if you're coming into those new albums with a sense of humor, you can appreciate them for how goofy they are. Same goes for their take on early 80's metal: it's intentionally goofy and trashy, and that's part of it's charm.
Same goes for your opinion on Burzum and Burzum-inspired Black Metal. I get where you're coming from and why you're annoyed by the pretentiousness of some of the musicians and fans of this kind of music. But as long as you don't think about the fanbase of these bands or how well received and hyped they are in websites like Pitchfork or /mu/, and focus solely on the music spouted by the "Ambient Black Metal" subgenre, you'll see it has a lot of interestin and innovative stuff. Bands like Wolves In The Throne Room, Agalloch, Krallice and Weakling should not be disregarded just because they are "hipster metal".
Seems to me that you want something very specific out of Black Metal. As if every band should sound like traditional Finnish BM.
Wait he disliked Wolves In The Throne Room and Agalloch?
Great point indeed.
@@caioramalho22 he's a tony martin sabbath...that should tell you he's your little cousin who watches and sexes anime...instead of going into a woodland setting...a camp kid who's there for the smores...and can't read literature beyond mac and cheese cartons
He's bashing arthur machen....because he's never grown a beard
@@CountBeetle Damn your mad.
Been rewatching this ep and the one about Gorgoroth and while I'm not a fan of black metal I can appreciate the skill of the musicianship being displayed.
A lot of people think that playing really fast is easy but to do it well and sound good takes way more skill than one thinks.
Also: some of Neptune Towers material made it into the first Sinister movie.