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Love hearing about how the disciples interacted with each other! I find the feud between John and Thomas to be fascinating
Me too! I had no idea they had a feud until I researched the Gospel of Thomas! Here I thought I knew the Bible pretty well. I guess there is always more to learn!
I think sometimes we forget that the canonical gospels and non-canonical gospels are in conversation with each other whether in agreement or disagreement. Thanks for the insight!
Completely agree AJ! Love that insight! Thanks buddy!
I’m truly delighted to notice that more and more insightful people approach theology and philosophy in such an interactive entertaining way!
Regarding Mary Magdalene’s becoming a male, this is obviously symbolic. Male and female represent cosmic principles, the active and the receptive, the solar and the lunar… this is all about unity. The complete human being contains and transcends this duality.
I am deeply grateful for your endeavor. Keep up your excellent work!
Greetings and blessings from a Persian Sufi
Thank you so much Sara Indigo! I really appreciate your kind words! And I agree with your assessment of Mary "becoming a male." Very insightful! Thank you for your comment. Greetings and blessings to you as well!
Dude I love your channel, no matter my beliefs you don’t infringe on it. You come off completely based on an educational vibe. Thanks for that!
Awesome, thank you gods child! So glad to hear that it comes off educational and not infringing on the beliefs of others! And thank you for your kind words, I really appreciate it! Much love!
If you read these lost gospels with your "3rd" eye and decode these messages, this will benefit you greatly on your own journey. We all have a light body. We all have great power within us. The kingdom is within and the MIND is the key. #Christconsciouness
BEAST MODE!!
114 is about integrating one’s Anima/Animus. The internal feminine/masculine, representatively. To reach enlightenment, one must integrate m/f, f/m.
Great content, bro!! Keep it up!! 😁😁👏🏼👏🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🔥🔥
Thank you RynoRyder! I appreciate it! And great insight about saying 114 as well! 👍🏼
I was just checking to see if anyone said this first! Glad I did! 🙏🙏🙏
As someone who considers themself Christian but doesn't gel with either Nicene Christianity or Gnostic Christianity, I consider the Gospel of Thomas a nice middle ground between the two.
That isn't to say I agree 100% with Thomas. But my experience has led me to believe that all scripture, Christian and non-Christian alike, is to be wrestled with, not accepted unconditionally or rejected wholeheartedly.
Thanks for the comment Duragizer! I love the perspective that all scripture, Christian and non-Christian alike, needs to be wrestled with! Great insight!
My impression is that Gnostic texts aren't meant to be read the same way. You kind of have to read between the lines, which is where the real truth is.
I think the Gospel of Thomas is very interesting, it just lost out in the canonization process. The John/Thomas rivalry is fascinating.
The Gospel of Thomas seems Gnostic because salvation is through knowledge (gnosis) rather than faith
Thanks for the comment Gerald! The Gospel of Thomas seems Gnostic to me too!
which is equivalent of not actually being one, also because it's written in late 2nd century and not in 1st
Fantastic video! Probably the best I've seen on this topic! Please keep making more videos. I love them.
Thank you Religion Fanatic! Those kind words mean a lot! Much love!
Great video! Learned a lot about the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of John. Thanks!
Great to hear!
@@ReligiosityPlus hey can you do a video on the nazarenes
Very engaging video! Well done! The time and effort you put into making each video is very noticeable. Well researched and very well edited. Congratulations on being one of my favorite RUclips channels!
Much appreciated! Thank you so much!
You never disappoint! Can't wait to see this channel take off! Great video as always!
Thank you very much! I really appreciate it and its great to hear from you again!
@@ReligiosityPlus You as well! Religion for Breakfast, Let's talk Religion, and Religiosity Plus are my favorite youtube channels. Thanks for all you do!
I thank st Thomas he came to Kerala india my ancestors come to know jesus and church ...❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is how my generation becomes a catholic Christians
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Love jesus ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The thing with Gnostic texts, is that you have to read between the lines to understand the real meaning. Thomas understood what the truth was, and therefor saw something else.
I think when Thomas talks about the light inside of us it’s in reference to the spirit that we use to develop our personal relationship with god and it was taken out so that some churches could use the Bible to control people in the sense of you have to have a priest or father pray to god for you
It is gnostic, as it centers the reader not on relationship with God, but on an interpretation of knowledge that makes one to be the centre of one’s own universe…
Thanks for the comment Will! You make a great point!
I concluded a while ago that they left the best bits out of the bible. It's like going to a show at the theatre and they tell the audience to go home at intermission. The show is sadly incomplete.... Nag Hamadi saved the day!
I think the story of Thomas being unbeliever, just as the story of Peter denying Christ or Judas being a traitor, just show that the Apostles were very human and sinners. I doubt it tries to make any of them look good or bad, but it makes sense the story of Thomas in the Gospel of John to be highlighted if the Gospel of Thomas was around as an indirect refutation to it.
I also wonder if Thomas, who apparently went in India and founded a Church there, left any heretic ideas particular to that church.
I love your videos. I always learn something new!
Thank you Nicole & Sarah! Glad you were able to learn something new!
It seems to me (and Stevan Davies, one translator of the gospel) that saying 114 was tacked onto the end at a later date and was not part of the original gospel. Saying 113 talks of the kingdom being spread upon the earth and men do not see it... Kind of going full circle back to saying 3 which talks of the kingdom being within and outside of You. So it makes more sense for 113 to be the last saying as it "completes the circle" Someone at a later time
I like to see gospel of Thomas and judas added to bible really like
Gospel of Judas is very different to the other gospels in form of narrative and Jesus
Is it just me or is this mostly Buddhist/daoist teachings? Ex: Saying #56 (21:12) is basically «He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know.» - Lao Tzu. Where one trying to grasp the flow of reality misses the whole point. but any who misses the point understands the flow... Also Saying #13 (13:30) is the basic structure of a Zen buddhist Koan
yeah, sounds like somebody pretended to be Thomas
The Gospel of Thomas is not in the canonical Bible. However, it may be an extremely early Gospel. It claims to be authored by Jesus himself (Perhaps, just after the resurrection. See Acts 1:3 and the Thomas Prologue). Thomas also purports to have been scribed by Jesus' brother Jude Thomas, who probably also wrote Jude, the second last book in the New Testament. This would mean that Thomas is unique being not only written by Jesus the author and finisher of our faith but is also an early apostolic writing having been scribed by Thomas. This Gospel also appears to be the foundational scripture underpinning the other apostolic writings found within what is often called the New Testament. For those interested in a more in-depth examination regarding how this "Testimony of Jesus", which is the spirit of prophecy, inspired the apostolic writers to pen their own letters and Gospels of the New Testament... for these diligent ones and even for myself, it may be helpful to type a search for - "the original gospel authored by Jesus Christ" takethescroll. Blessings on your search for truth.
The gospel of Thomas discloses the secret to prayer wich is knowing before you pray before you ask God has already fulfilled what you ask for it's already done technically it's description of the law of attraction Thomas judas was the twin brother of yeshua
I believe that Thomas is greatly misinterpreted, just as many things are today when taken out of context. Similar to how texting someone can be taken out of context by the lack of important body language or tone of voice even. I was not there, so i put little faith in stories, and all my faith in Jesus. The truth of the Father and the son are this, ask and you will recieve, knock and the door will be answered. Everything is already written inside those who seek Our Father, Our Father's love reveals it. It is through his love we can know him, as it is through his love he knows us. Love is the truth of all things, as love was the creation of all things. The original design, the image of the Father. God is good. Love the Father with all your hearts and minds, and then love your neighbor as yourself. This is the way to the Kingdom and it is already here, the end is the same as the beginning. God is love ❤
Found your chanal last night and u made in intrested about the Bible been looking for years to understand and explain
The woman becoming male is simply talking about balancing your masculine to your feminine 🙏 50/50 🧘♀️ your light side to your dark side. It’s neither this OR that, it is simply this AND that ☀️🙏 once you fully balance your masculine/feminine then you find true peace & understanding that we are all One.
Thanks for your insight April! I love it!
@@ReligiosityPlus eeeekkkk you replied 🤩🤣❤️ I follow all of your videos 🤩 the one you did awhile back with the Gospel of Judas, it changed my life the day I watched it. I told my fiancé that I felt that Jesus & Judas switched places. It was not Jesus that was crucified that day & I know a lot of people will get angry for me even saying this but not even 2 weeks ago I came across the Gospel of Barnabas & he states that Judas was the one crucified that day, not Jesus 🙏 you should consider going down the Barnabas Gospel. It is INCREDIBLE. Has so many verses that he should have received credit for in the KJV & of course did not & it goes into more detail about the Light you spoke about today 🙏❤️
Adam and Eve where one being, needing nothing at the beginning. When the apple was cut in two, chaos unfolded. The end is also the beginning.
I love that John 14:2 was referenced because it's one of my favorite verses!
As always, another great, well thought out video! Also, I love the mug!
Thanks Whitley! Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to watch my video! And a special thanks for the mug!!!!
Thomas was not a bad disciple & the Gospels do not paint him in that light, only later interpretations do, he spread the gospel further & wider than any other disciple.
Anyone make the "Thomas was first? I doubt it..." joke yet?
They did? 700 times?
Alright.
I do not know if Jesus said that about Mary becoming man, but it made sense for Jesus to choose men as Apostles as society at that time did not take women seriously, so choosing women would have frustrated the spread of the Gospel. Still, Mary indeed was basically an Apostle even if not recognized as such. It seems church later were more acceptable of women as shown later (Lydia, Acts 16:11-15), in a sense it seems it was even more acceptable at those early centuries of women than Medieval Church later.
This is really good!
I think Thomas had a sceptical mind and this lead to him being caught up with gnostics as they were into intellectual secret meanings and this is why he only has the sayings and not the stories of the Gospels. John was written later so had more of what the church was about in his account and in repudiation to other thoughts of the time.
So it's basically the collection of the hadiths of Jesus.
Thank you well explained
I think that the female becoming male refers, similarly to Buddhism, that the spirit has no sex, and that the body of females (considered impure) is an impediment to realize spiritual perfection. So, when Jesus says he would make women into men, it means that he will eliminate the "impurities" of the female body to led them into perfection. In other words, is like when Paul says that there is no longer Greek or Jew, man or woman, for all are equal in the Kingdom of Christ.
In between the two gospel in simplicity just represent the two major religions will strongly ever exist in our days of life to the end thas opposes each other as of today. We are witnessing some religion claiming they were there before Christianity that's why Thomas was asking Jesus actuals questions in order making sure no deciver of such religion will ever come to plaques followers from the legit light which was presented by Jesus. Thas Why those two occurrences competed each with no exact dates written to avoid disclaimer religion rather than Christianity and by other to give the experience by seeing with hearings and by witnessing assurance from them through Jesus acknowledging future generation to avoid conflict to upcoming future followers generations whom they never saw Jesus neither hard but only script never to be confused. I believe that's was the major concept of the matter
Very cool channel!!!!!
Another great video!
Why thank you Nicole! Much love!
Great video! Those alarm bells scared me lol
Well done young man!
Soooooo good! 🙏🙏🙏
👍🏼 Very Good!
😊 Thank you!
I want to read it, for I think it's more authentic than John.
What is meant by Barbelow in the Gnostics?
Another description of the gospel is "The testament of the one". Far more superior than any other gospel which was the first Gospel
Plus, Jesus telling Simon Peter "then I will make her a male," sounds like snark designed to make SP (or the reader) aware that women are not lesser.
This is great, but I would find it much easier to listen to you if you would take a breath or two between sentences
Thanks for the comment Ian and yes I agree, I should leave a few more pauses between sentences in there! Thanks for the tip!
@ReligiosityPlus I think you speak just fine. Slow enough to understand, with clear accent on words. It's not monotone, but rather engaging to listen to. 😊
There are many good reasons to believe the Gospel of Thomas was written by Gnostic believers who allowed their saving trust in hidden, esoteric knowledge to taint their description of Jesus. The text was discovered among other Gnostic works and opens with the words, “These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.” Salvation is found not in the substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross (nor in “good works”), but is instead found in the secret, hidden words of Jesus if they are properly and insightfully understood. For this reason, the Gospel of Thomas fails to describe any of Jesus’ historic life and focuses instead on His words alone. This connection between hidden knowledge and salvation (or spiritual enlightenment) is characteristic of Gnostic groups of this era.
The oldest manuscript fragments of the text (found at Oxyrhynchus, Egypt) are dated from 130 to 250AD, and the vast majority of scholars agree that the Gospel of Thomas was written no earlier than the mid-2nd Century. These scholars cite several passages in the text appearing to harmonize verses from the canonical Gospels
Read Christ's letters says doubting Thomas story couldn't happen since He did not resurrect in his brutalised body and He specifically asked Maria Magdalena not to touch his ascended light body Namaste 🙏
Thank you for your comment Colin! Much appreciated and Namaste to you as well 🙏🏻
I think "doubting Thomas" is a literary device, like "Lazarus the beggar." When Jesus told his story, he named the beggar after his friend and (rich) benefactor, Lazarus the brother of Mary and Martha. If John is using the same technique, then Thomas is someone who is especially wise to the teachings.
Are you an Arminian?
Thomas was Jesus’s twin brother
I've heard this book called the Bible for a long time. When I have questions they always refers me to read the Bible. Now I have soo much question I don't even know where to begin asking 😂🤣😅
Take the greek text of Gospel of Thomas and retranslate it back to Hebrew and then to english, you find that it is a poor attempt for someone in greek translating Jesus quotes. They then make more sense and actually match quotes found in longer versions of Matthew found in the Vatican. There is practically nothing gnostic in the Jesus quotes at all.
In the ancient world only men seemed be deemed valuable. Perhaps 114 is saying that women have value, and it says this by saying a woman is capable of being like a man. It could explain why early Christianity was popular with marginalized groups like women.
Seeing this video with just 5 thounsand views months after its premiere just breaks my heart, considering idiotic stuff like "Gangam style" literally broke the internet and achieved BILLIONS of views!
Tomas mean what??
Is it not "The Twin".
He who looks just like Jesus?
Funny fact.
The Bible says, Tomas was not around when Jesus showed himself living again.
And in Sweden santa is called Tom and when he comes, Pappa is not around.
The Gospel of Thomas is referring to the 22 laws of yahusha. That's what the secret is, be it Gnostics or not, it's a true gospel. Same goes to the Gnostics just as it's complicated like the Bible
But what is actual salvation? And who needed salvation from Yahweh if his people are the Israelites?
😂Oh yes gnosticism can be trusted for spiritual growth and to lead you to heaven. Gnostics thought they had special knowledge imparted to them.
So according to Thomas, Jesus just wanted to watch the world burn!
Ask God for revelation or dnt read it
you knw these scholars etc are fools to not see this as Gnostic texts
First of all, why all these people white? That voids it all for me....Nexxxxt...
Because you focus on earthly things, you don't see the heavenly things.
I enjoyed reading it but the fact that denies the basic fundementle beleif of Christianty is base on it does not qualify as ( a Gospel )
Thanks for the comment Mary! You make a great point!
How can you say that it not going with the fundamentals makes it not a gospel? You have no idea what Jesus truly intended, therefore this teaching could be the true fundamental, and the other gospels could be blasphemous, there’s no way to know other than to think for yourself
@@winkythreebeak260 Like I said so much of it is very beautiful and I loved studying it ... But to add to the Bible 100 or 200 years after it was written makes it a very beautiful addition to the Gospels but not necessarily a Gospel although it's like a amazing piece of the puzzle of Truth that we are all still putting together ... The Catholic Church didn't help with our quest for truth by removing so many books of the Bible which I have been studying for many years now
Regardless of what it is, we don't really have an idea about which are the real teachings of the historical jesus, unless he shows up right now and announce it to the whole world 😂
You got so many things wrong, or SAID things that aren't correct, so...well...keep studying . Perhaps pray to GOD and ask for help.
Thanks for your comment Travis. If you have time, I’d be interested in knowing what I got wrong. Again, thanks for the comment