Monad (from Greek μονάς monas, "singularity" in turn from μόνος monos, "alone") refers, in cosmogony, to the Supreme Being, divinity or the totality of all things. The concept was reportedly conceived by the Pythagoreans and may refer variously to a single source acting alone, or to an indivisible origin, or to both. The concept was later adopted by other philosophers, such as Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, who referred to the Monad as an elementary particle. It had a geometric counterpart, which was debated and discussed contemporaneously by the same groups of people. Q: Is the Monad (first emanation of God) the zero-dimensional space binding our quarks together with the strong nuclear force? A: Leibniz's "The Monadology" is a philosophical work that explores the concept of monads as indivisible, immaterial substances that make up the fabric of reality. While the notion of monads is primarily philosophical and not directly related to modern physics, I can attempt to draw a connection between some of Leibniz's ideas and the strong nuclear force holding quarks together. Here are seven points of connection you could consider: 1) Indivisibility and Unity: Leibniz's monads are indivisible and lack parts. In a similar vein, quarks are elementary particles, indivisible according to our current understanding, and are the building blocks of hadrons, the particles held together by the strong force. 2) Interconnectedness: Leibniz's monads are interconnected, each reflecting the entire universe from its own perspective. In particle physics, the strong force binds quarks within hadrons, creating a complex interconnected system of particles. 3) Inherent Properties: Monads possess inherent perceptions and appetitions. In particle physics, quarks are associated with intrinsic properties like color charge, which influences their interactions through the strong force. 4) Harmony: Leibniz describes monads as creating harmony in the universe. Similarly, the strong nuclear force maintains stability within atomic nuclei by balancing the repulsive electromagnetic forces between positively charged protons. 5) Pre-established Harmony: Leibniz's concept of pre-established harmony suggests that everything is synchronized by design. In particle physics, the strong force ensures that quarks interact in ways that give rise to stable particles, exhibiting a form of "harmony" in their interactions. 6) Non-Mechanical Interaction: Leibniz's monads interact non-mechanically through perceptions. In the context of the strong force, quarks interact through the exchange of gluons, which doesn't follow classical mechanical rules but rather the principles of quantum field theory. 7) Holism: Leibniz's emphasis on the holistic nature of reality could be compared to the way quarks contribute to the overall structure and behavior of hadrons through their interactions mediated by the strong force. em·a·na·tion noun an abstract but perceptible thing that issues or originates from a source.
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Male and female is created for prison slave planets most of the natural Universe can engage in hermaphroditic asexual reproduction... easier to keep people separated and keep your slaves under control with male and female being divided.
I hadn't even reached the point in the video where this was said but I was just about to comment about how a major world religion sprang up out of what basically amounted to an extensive fanfic literary universe.
So cool that you used the term "fan fiction." To me, it's an acknowledgment that we aren't so different from our ancestors. We are story-telling people and we have a long history of expanded universes.
@@reeyees50 Today's Christianity is more like a 2000-year-long game of "telephone." A modern Christian and 1st Century Christian wouldn't agree on anything except the bare basics about a dude getting nailed to a tree for saying everyone should be nice to each other for a change. Even the concept of the Trinity didn't come along for 200-300 years.
@@jasonblalock4429 Not true for two reasons: 1. All copies of the gospels--every single one--have always included the names of the authors, and they are unanimous in their attestation across the entire Roman Empire. The idea that there was a game of telephone going on; and yet every single copy of the 4 gospels were unanimously attributed across Europe, North Africa, and Asia Minor from before 125 AD is ridiculous. ~There is no such thing as an anonymous Gospel.~ Not to mention both Matthew and John were apostles themselves. 2. ~170 AD: Theophilius of Antioch talked about the Trinity by name ~155 AD: Polycarp of Smyrna--"I praise [the Father] through Jesus Christ, with Him and the Holy Spirit be glory now and forever." ~110 AD: Ignatius of Antioch--"prosper in the Son, and in the Father, and in the Spirit" ~90 AD: John the Apostle, called Jesus God--"the Word was with God, and the Word was God." ~60 AD: St. Paul was calling Jesus God--"the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ." ~33 AD: Jesus--"baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"
@@jasonblalock4429 Depends on the congregation and the first century believer. If they’re the original followers? No. We don’t even know much about who they were as people in the historical record or what they truly believed. But they’re most likely Second Temple Jewish or at the least follow the laws. They likely wouldn’t agree much with their Jewish cousins either since Judaism has definitely changed somewhat as well. They wouldn’t really agree with pretty much anyone. Though it’d make for great entertainment once the language barrier is surpassed to cause peoples heads to explode or go into denial. It would certainly make churches even emptier.
Not so much complicated per se, but simply hadn’t been trimmed down and codified by the inevitable.. unenviable process of human expansion and editorial process that is accrued during the development of any belief system or longstanding Institutional. It’s truly fascinating to see how people fail to understand the fact that it’s been two thousand years since Jesus walked into the Judaean Narrative/Timeline.
Rando fringe movements have always existed. You are comparing them to the norm religion and not to other Christian rando fringe movements like frankly, Mormonism or Some of the weirder Pentecostal sects.
Oh, it was complicated - maybe people are only aware of their little corner of interest. For example, I'm not so interested in gnostic cosmologies... but I glanced into that door, and OMG is it overly complicated and weird in there, IMO. And they were only contrasting 2 groups... but there were many more groups of gnostics, and many more Christians who weren't gnostics.
Its always fascinating seeing different intepretations branching off, especially when they involve apocrypha centered around minor characters like this.
The section where one recognizes themselves as a "twin of Jesus" reminded me a lot of certain beliefs in Hinduism where ones Self is in actuality Shiva. Is it possible that those who cultivated Thomas as a central figure to Christianity did so from impulses eastward -- as you said, the Acts of Thomas had him travel to India. Great video as always!
This is what I was thinking about too! Ive been very fulfilled following nondual Shaivism for some time, and its curious how this overlaps. Sri Ramakrishna became Christian for a time, and said these paths all lead to the divine.
Gnostic Gospels do have alot of parallels to Hindu and Buddhist beliefs so it is highly possible the Thomasine Christians had influences(I also tend to believe Jesus himself was influenced by Hinduism and Buddhism).
There are similar ideas in the Egyptian Priestly/Professional initiation rituals that inspired the Greek Hermetica so there's really no reason to go to India. Mostly Indian parrellels just stand out because Indian thought is both relatively popular and highly exoticised/othered. Hindu Temple culture was probably imported from the Egypt/Syria/Babylon cultural continium (best evidence for this is lack of clear temple buildings in the Harrapan phase or Temple ideology in the Rig Veda) and the concept of divine doubles is kind of natural in 'idolatorous' cultures.
When I knew little about the transmission of religion through history, I thought Christianity had always stayed constant throughout time. When I knew a little more, I realized that we have lost some of the original context of Christianity and reinterpreted it to fit our current ideas. Now I’m learning that since the very beginning of Christianity, Christians have been interpreting and reinterpreting the story of Jesus. It’s crazy how there has never been a static idea of who Jesus was or what he taught
Wrong. The gospels are authentic, this is fantasy stuff from some groups way later. There are much more fake storys about jesus, read the quran. Historicaly unauthentic
The story of Jesus has been static since ~100 AD. The earliest copies of the gospels we have are from ~125 AD, none of them are anonymous. The idea that there was a game of telephone going on; and yet every single copy of the 4 gospels were unanimously attributed across Europe, North Africa, and Asia Minor from before 125 AD is ridiculous. Additionally, even critics of Christianity from Rome said that we knew who the authors were. Celsus, 2nd-century Greek philosopher, does not attack the idea of Jesus existing, or that we did not even know who wrote the stories about Jesus. Instead, he says Jesus himself made up stories: “Let us imagine what a Jew - let alone a philosopher- might say to Jesus: ‘Is it not true, good sir, that you fabricated the story of your birth from a virgin to quiet rumours about the true and insavoury circumstances of your origins? Is it not the case that far from being born in the royal David’s city of bethlehem, you were born in a poor country town, and of a woman who earned her living by spinning?'"
@michajones7837 where are you getting your info? Basically every Athiest and Thiest historian disagrees with you. The meaning of the Bible is the same now as it was from the original manuscripts.
I'm from Chennai, and we do have a St Thomas Mount which is supposedly the burial site of Thomas. Despite the fact that there's no historical evidence of this, it is mind blowing that one of the Apostles is believed to be buried in my city according to Christian tradition and it's not that big of a deal here. xD
Last year I walked the Camino de Santiago. A pilgrimage to the burial place of St James the Apostle, according to tradition. I loved it, it was great. Not long after I visited family in India and we went to Chennai. They took me to the Basilica and I went down into the crypt to see the reliquary pray. Both amazing experiences. But it was hard not to think how funny it is that hundreds of people a day go to Santiago and Rome to see Saints Peter, Paul and James. But I was in Chennai and there were only about a dozen people in the Basilica where Saint Thomas is believed to have been laid to rest.
@@emilchandran546 it's mostly down to eurocentrism. Most christians and most of christian history happened in Europe so European locations are generally more prominent
@@msdd7610most Christian history happened in Egypt, Ethiopia, Turkey, India, China, Persia and Arabia/Petra/Yemen. Europeans were alien to Christianity until 300 years until it's way better established in Asia and Africa way longer.
@@abc_cba Most of the history didn't happen west of Syria, mostly in Israel, Turkey, Greece and Italy (and yeah ethiopia) there has been christianity in India, China and Persia but most of christian history didn't take place there.
Twins have always been HUGE in mythology: Lav and Kusha from the Ramayana, Shatruman and Lakshmana from same, Nakul and Sahadev from the Mahabharata, Remus and Romulus, Artemis and Apollo (it's rarer to have fraternal twins), Castor and Pollux, the Asvan Horse Twins, Tijus Keha and Tawis Karong in Huron mythology: you name me a Near Eastern mythology, I can probably name you a set of twins.
They're common in the mythologies that developed from the the Proto Indo European religion, which Christianity is not. It is interesting that twins exist in the big two Sanskrit epics: Nakula-Sahadeva in the Mahabharata and Lakshmana and Shatrughna in the Ramayana.
@@chronikhiles Divine Twins are not exclusive to PIE-derived religions: the Mayan god twins, Tezcatlipoca and Quetzalcoatl and various other examples in the Americas attest to that. Besides, Christiniaty was influenced by Greek religion and philosophy, which is IE.
It was hard enough for a singleton birth to survive and thrive in the eras where almost half of them died before age 5. For twins to survive was a rare feat indeed. Unsurprisingly, many cultures considered this either a miracle, a curse, or possibly both. Freyr and Freyja from Norse mythology are another set of fraternal twins.
@@digitaljanus I forget where I heard this from but in many cultures, twins posed a huge problem for inheritance, which made them be seen as bad luck. That and the fact that you had actual clones running around just seems unnatural, so it's quite sensical that people would ascribe cosmological importance to twins in one way or another.
I love bible fanfiction. Always enjoy these episodes. It connects me with people from thousands of years ago, because it's just the same today. People get two voice lines and an item description and develop whole complex lore, theories and storylines off of that. It's just about games and movies instead of the bible.
@@brant-sd8ui Such as? So many contratictions in the scriptures, as well as little supporting archeological evidence suggest most of what was written is pure fiction.
@@TitaniusAnglesmith How does one historically prove a text, religious or non religious? And can you explain the difference between a Biblical account of Jesus and a non Biblical account of Pontius Pilate, for example?
@@ReyFelipe00 Mostly archeological evidence and corroborating accounts. We know that certain people, Pontus Pilatus, Jesus, Julius Caesar, for instance, existed and even know many of their actions. We can determine with a decent degree of certainty that they existed and did certain things. However, when there are many accounts that do not line up with eachother, we know that, at the least, that events did not take place as described. If 100 people see a crime and write down the same witness, it's more likely they are correct than the group that only gives verbal testimony and everyone gives a different description.
This has me thinking about a parallel in ancient Egyptian culture: the Ka. It's often represented by a "twin" or mirror image of a person with the Ka symbol on their head. Since the Ka represents the spark of life and the spark of the divine in a person, it makes sense that it looks like the person. It's their divine twin! So interesting!
@@KTempestBradford Your silly Ka and sparks of life. Wrong PATH to think and make a silly connection. I told you already to look at my other post. New comments.
I like to think all this started because Jesus and his buddy Thomas showed up to the market accidentally wearing the same robe and sandals, called each other "twinsies," and then a whole lot of future christians took it WAAAAAY out of context in the best way.
I always assumed Thomas was Jesus' twin to fit Hercules and Iphicles, Castor and Pollux, Helen and Clytemnestra etc where one twin is divine and the other mortal But nickname, maybe Thomas was just some random guy who looked like Jesus, hence the nickname. Either way look-a-like explains the Judas kiss. When the Police arrest Jesus, He makes a big deal, "You saw me preaching in the Temple every day. Why didn't you arrest me then?" If Thomas looked the same as Jesus, then the Judas kiss becomes necessary
Well, You're a bit off with the Police things in here. Because the one who arrested Yesus was Roman Soldiers, not Jew Police or something. Of course Romans would never come to the Temple.
This seems to explain a number of etymological questions I've had. I'm going to watch this again and rejoice if it indeed leads me where I need to go. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Wait, I've been taught brother is the same word as cousin in Aramaic, with a few examples found also in the Old testament of people calling each other brothers when they are simply blood relatives.
This is such an evocative subject matter! The notions about our place as primordial beings "made of light" feels particularly reminiscent of Eastern philosophies as well as modern perceptions of the afterlife, especially related to the psychedelic movement. The idea of Oneness, the idea of life inherently being the nexus of suffering and that our return to the Oneness will allow us to escape it. Great video RFB!
Manechaism was huge at the time. Mani spent a lot of his family’s wealth and personal charisma pushing it so far it almost took over Buddhism and Augustine converted away from it because Manichaeism was too vegan and personally useless to gain social power against another.
That's all related to gnosticism, which the Church recognized as heretical because it denied the goodness of physical reality. The gnostics also denied that Jesus was was fully human because God can't become part of nasty dirty physical reality. But Christians always believed in the incarnation and the physical resurrection of christ, and that after the judgement the dead will be raised into new bodies like christ was. This was what made Christianity much more unique; it was and is incarnational. God's plan was not for us to escape this world, but to redeem and remake it.
I went to Catholic schools, and there were all sorts of statements that the word brother -- referring to James or Jude -- really meant cousin because Mary was "ever virgin." As a Protestant, I found it both funny and puzzling. I liked this video.
Seems like I’ve heard of that interpretation before, but growing up Baptist, I always knew it as coming from one of the other denominations and therefore being “wrong.” I can honestly see why Mary having other sons might be troubling for the theology of a sect that venerates her for her purity, though it strikes me as odd because why would they describe them as brothers when they mean cousins if they described John the Baptist as his cousin?
I’m so struck by that verse from the Gospel of Thomas chap. 22, speaking on duality and oneness. These ideas are universal truths that we see repeated throughout so many other religions (especially those from South Asia)
I think he wasnt a literal twin, but a brother that really came out just like Jesus, everyone has seen siblings like that, so its interesting to see how they treat this
Tomas literally means twin, It's unambiguous, not a oh wow you look alike, of course they looked alike they were all brothers.. His brothers were Jacob/Yakov which for some reason they translate as James, Shimon/Simeon who everyone calls Peter. Joseph again hellenized as Joses and finally his twin brother Judah changed to Judas or Jude. Both Joshua (hellenized as Jesus) and Judah would have been known as twin, in the same way we would call both twins we know 'twin' as well as their actual names now. The brothers. Joshua, Judah, Jacob, Shimon, were the leaders of a sect of ultra orthodox Torah observance from Arabia. Living in a commune nicknamed 'The Poor' dedicated the brothers dedicated their lives to Torah and pop up in all sorts of extra-biblical sources that are remarkable in the sense that they all seem to not only challenge the Gospel narrative but agree with each other in certain senses. Some things can be extrapolated from this. Joshua/Jesus' ''disciples' were basically his brothers initially & eventually many more. Their hometown was in the South, Arabian Desert. They may have spent time in all of Egypt, Iraq, Iran, India all of which had thriving Torah observant Jewish communities. They were related to and married into wealthy and influential families in the Levant. Both Joshua & Jacob became high priests as stated by both Josephus and the Talmud. There are many Joshua/Jesuses at the time as it was a popular messianic name. Josephus names about 20. IT appears that the gospel writers amalgamated a number of these into their character version of Jesus The Christ. Joshua and Judah as twins are a clear motif to previous literary twins/brothers like Cain/Abel, Jacob/Esau, Romulus/Remus, Enki/Enlil signifying good/evil, heaven/underworld, city/nomad, farmer/hunter as well as gnostic teachings of spiritual duality. It's all made up nonsense tagged onto snippets of myth and legend, bundled into something ritualistic as the basis of a theological way of life. The perennial search for meaning by lost souls.
Not directly related, but I find it funny-awesome that "fanfiction" has apparently become a standard comparison in analyzing ancient texts and their impact. I mean, it makes perfect sense, but it's still interesting that such a niche geeky term has migrated into academic discourse.
The Thomasine teaching of twins is something we see in Valentinianism (a Gnostic branch of Christianity), where the heavenly marriage between your soul and your angel counterpart is salvation itself.
Your best line was at 3:17! The line starting "if you know anything . . . "! It is a hilarious line. If your students aren't laughing in the aisles during your lectures, I won't understand why!
he is saying subliminally in the time frame you gave 3:17. If you know… what in that time frame you gave, what message do you see. hint: cananitte god. do you see it, if not THEN YOU KNOW NOTHING
This is very creative. I am pretty sure I am doubting Thomas's fraternal twin. In Greek, brother means relative. In the Odyssey, we know that Odysseus is an only son. He does have a sister. Yet, the Osysseus crewmen are called his brothers. Some Eastern Christians think Jude and James are Joseph's children. I think the term brother is just like we call someone's friends homeboy or homie.
It would be interesting to compare cultures & traditions where Thomas is considered a twin with the non-christian religious traditions in the same area, particularly looking at if the Divine Twins archetype is also present! I mean, we know that a temple to Castor & Pollux was converted to the Basilica of Cosmas & Damian, but they weren't martyred until the turn of the fourth century IIRC.
I wonder if this isn't a reflection of the indo-european horse twin cult, in which one child was the son of a god (usually the sky father) and the other was his mortal twin brother, and both would be heroes of great renown. Castor and Pollux was one example, Hengist and Horsa is probably another, and the Ashvins are the indian reflex.
It's interesting to me that some of the quotes calling Thomas "Jesus's Twin Brother" could just mean he's Jesus's brother and a twin. Doesn't necessarily mean Jesus was the other twin. At least that's a possible modern English vernacular reading. Of course, some of those quotes are more direct. I wonder how ancient Greek and Aramaic siblings of twins spoke of them...
I read the Bible in Latin and I didn’t ever pick up the twin meanings in the name because it doesn’t translate the same way (not specifically what you asked but it’s a different translation lol)
When I was learning about Islam, over 10 years ago, I went to a mosque and interviewed someone. Not sure how many people actually believe this, but at least this person I interviewed believed Judas was Jesus's look-a-like. He used the word "twin", but they are not blood related. He believed Judas felt guilty he betrayed Jesus, and Judas took his place at the cross so that Jesus could escape and live the rest of his life in secret. That always stuck with me.
Yes, the Quran says that not Jesus, but a man looking like him was killed (4:157). It does not say it was Judas, I'm afraid that is muslim fanfic inspired by the bible.
Nice story. But for that to happen, the Roman guards would have to be in on it or at least bribed. It does explain what the Buddhists in India say. That Jesus (Jeshua) ended up dying in India at an old age. They even say that he spent his missing teenage years in India, that the three wise men were Buddhist scholars who predicted his birth with Astronomy and that the name he later used in India was given to him by people in Persia as he travelled to India from the middle east. The story is plausible because in the Bible, Judas does die. The main thing is the wisdom that Jesus tried to tell people. Whether he was Indian / Jewish / lived on or died is not that important. Personally, I find the India story less offensive than the story that he went to France. The most interesting thing is whether Jesus ever actually existed. Some believe he didn't, some believe he did. This is why I find Thomas so interesting. Do Indian people remember Thomas going to India? I mean, are there any historical records of this in India? The labelling of St Thomas as "the doubter" is some kind of anti-Thomas propaganda. I am very interested in anything about Thomas Didymus Judas (St Thomas). According to the Bible Thomas had to inspect the wound. So that he could believe. Logically, if Jesus and Judas faked it, Jesus would have left as soon as possible, not been hanging around there days later. But you can't believe everything in scripture. Originally Muslims believed in Jesus. For some reason this changed. Believing in him and worshiping him was where Islam split from Christianity. Now I have learned that there is a trinity at the heart of Hinduism. Interesting ...
@@berranari1 muslims still believe in Jesus peace be upon him, as a messiah, not a God. Christians worship Jesus PBUH. Muslims follow Jesus’s PBUH message alongside the other prophets. Thats the difference.
@@berranari1 considering that Islams quaran is a badly written and crudely plagerised version of of the old and new testament. And the holy Bible is very detailed compared to the small and very confusing and conflicting quaran. Then maybe you should drive deeper in both books do research on each of them where certain subjects come from and ask questions like "why is the quaran not in chronological order? Why in the holy Bible does Jesus Christ call himself the son of man? Where else in Arabia were there other fringe sects that viewed Jesus Christ not as God prior to Islam? And why did Mohammed/Allah seem to change opinions constantly?" There are many more but if you use critical thinking and good judgement you'll see a clearer understanding of which one is the one true faith.
I think Jesus is speaking to you if you believe this, you should do some research on his life and teachings. I have a fascination with Indian Christians also.
I love to learn more about the how we are/were beings of light and other related subjects pertaining to some primordial form or existence. So where is a good place to start? What are some suggestions to try and learn about such subjects?
Muslims believes that a man in likeness of Jesus (pbuh) got crucified and Jesus (pbuh) still alive next to God and the angles, and he's gonna come back in the end of times.
That’s NOT what the Quran teaches though. According to the Quran, the crucifixion was MADE TO APPEAR SO to them. It seems Muslims started interpreting this as a replacement, which the Gnostics believed before Islam.
In Deuteronomy 4:2 Moses declares, “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commands of the Lord your God which I command you.” The only way in which we can rightly “keep” God's commands is to not add or subtract from his word
Thinking as an early church father, it would not be so convenient to have Thomas as a twin, it wouldn't be so hard to draw a paralel between Jacob and Esau, with Jesus being Jacob and Esau Thomas. In this case, Thomas would not be be a redemeed Esau, but he could be interpreted as anti-christ, and be worship as a living god. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it would also present issues with the nativity narrative since we don't have any details on the cannonical gospels talking about two babies being born at once. Maybe Thomas was born like a year later and he did look a lot alike, hence the nickname, without being his actual twin? Well, all that assuming that there was a historical Jesus with a bunch of brothers all running around after him.
That reminds me of Star Wars lore before the prequals. There were people who believed uncle Owen was Obi-Wan brother,not Anakin's. And there were many fanfics about their relation.
As a Christian, my interpretation of 12:21 is, he’s relating us to our Christlike spirit. Also, the marriage, it’s referring to how during marriage you should be yoked together as one.
The Christian like spirit comes from that feeling of knowing that you are doing some thing you do not want to be doing, despite it feeling good for your flesh in the moment. Like excessive, drinking or any other distraction/ addiction to cope with serious issues.
If Jesus had an identical twin brother, that could explain (and complicate) the whole "Jesus was resurrected" story. If it was just his brother that everyone saw, that could explain many of the revelation stories.
Okay, okay. His "Twin" wasn't some mysterious hidden twin that's been in Albion for the 12 years and got back stowing away on a ship. His "Twin" was literally a disciple of his and according to John, also interacted with the risen him. Do you really think people are gonna mistake an adult they've seen near another adult a thousand times even after having close personal conversations?.
@@ikengaspirit3063 I have twin friends who AREN'T identical (though they look similar) and people who have known them for years, but who aren't that close with them, still confuse them sometimes. Also, seeing someone from a distance, etc. can also make a difference. No one is saying that all of the stories are all 100% accurate. This could still explain some things.
@@GaviLazan And how many of the stories are about seeing some guy from a distance?. One is about meeting, traveling with and then logging for a while with disciples. Another is about meeting his apostles so closely that Thomas could stick his hand in Jesus' stomach, another is fishing with Peter and the apostles. These are people that knew well, personal appearances and expressing awareness of some of the clear(not vague like slightly different facial muscles, which people do notice) differences that would exist between twins like a huge scar/wound on the stomach. This doesn't work, at all.
The problem with Thomas being a literal twin is the logistics of Mary's pregnancy. In order for one twin to be divinely conceived and one ordinarily conceived, Mary would have had to have not been a virgin. I think it's more likely that he was someone who resembled Jesus enough to have been frequently mistaken for him when seen up close--maybe even his half-brother.
There's a channel called Crecganford that goes into a lot of mythology, and divine twins are a staple in old myths. I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus fit the divine twin trope
Thanks for the awesome videos. Hope you can make a video about the earliest icons of Jesus and how it impacted early Christianity. Also, can you tackle why most of the New Testament mostly focuses on Paul's letters where there are also letters coming from the other apostles of Jesus. Thank you.
Has it ever been explained how the early Thomasine tradition may have influenced the "Saint Thomas Christians" of India? Despite their claims of descent from the Thomasine community, it does not seem they have in any way preserved any early scripture based around Thomas, such as the Gospel of Thomas or the Acts of Thomas.
3:16 My guess, based solely upon being a human being, is that maybe he looked like Jesus (or possibly another member of the group), so they gave him the nickname of The Twin. Why not? I served with someone who was a dead ringer for our squad leader...a bit smaller, though...so I called him Junior. And the name stuck.
The Gospels of Thomas should be mainstream again. The epitome of Christianity. Also it really channels into the esoteric side of the bible which intrigues me more than anything.
A Jesus twin could explain the resurrection, like the twin trick in “The Prestige”. For example when my dad passed away, we went round his house, and his (doppelgänger) brother came out to greet us. We hadn’t seen him in years, and we momentarily shat a brick.
The New testament and Jesus and his ministry is a fascinating subject and makes me wonder how much or how many scraps of parchment the Catholic church is hiding in the Vatican🤔 Because I realize that them books have been canonized in no order in which to control the population within a conformist belief system, which splintered off into the various sects of Christianity; besides if religion is supposed to be a personal relationship between you and your god of your understanding, why conform instead of searching🤷
@@xunqianbaidu6917 Then again how are we supposed to know it's only for the Evangelical thing to have a personal relationship, especially seeing how I've heard it out of other denominations of Christians... I think religion oughta be kept private in your closet which means not a group thing, but a personal endeavor🤔 I never been one for groups though 🤷
@@xunqianbaidu6917 I really don't care if their denomination, or not They're really evil angels posing as a group of religious people in order to twist turn demon eyes and abused people; just like gets always been from the church, it's always going to be from the church look with the conservatives are doing to the lgbtq Community, because they think their God and they can make the decision for God 🤔
Would be curious to see how Christians and their Christian churches and sects react if it was for proven beyond doubt that James was indeed a brother (not a cousin) AND that Thomas was as well. It would be such a contradiction to prior teachings (or lack of). It could really be a Buzz Lightyear "Years of academy training wasted" moment.
Well for one thing my man here already confirmed that most historians do believe Jesus has a bro named James (not a cousin) which already lines up with what Christians already believe. As for any historical proof contradicting bla bla bla the reality is that faith doesn't work like that. Faith is essentially evidence that's not material bubbling up from within you that the path you are on is true cuz what you have heretofore experienced is real. Tldr; if any proof supposedly contradicting the Bible is found Christians will think, "do I believe human scholars or do I believe God?" And they will choose God every time.
@@lowenzahn3976 that's a lie anytime I have pointed out contradictions in the Bible I get a bunch of not soo nice things said about me or they start pointing out other texts in the Bible that has nothing to do with the text I'm talking about
They would just include Protoevangelion Jacobii, the Gospel of Thomas, and the Acts of Thomas in the New New Testament. It's literally already thought of.
Reminds me of Uniting Upper and Lower Ka's in Egyptian. And how Odin was called Transgender (Artith Haager), as was the god who masturbated to make reality in Egyptian. And the fact that Thomas went to India is quite interesting to me and my beliefs, as a Hindu.
Hmmm... Maybe this is why John added the doubting Thomas story... To prevent people from saying it was Thomas everyone saw, during the resurrection, not Jesus?
Could this be an attempt by early Christians to adapt some elements of the new religion into pre-existing religious traditions. The idea of the Divine Twins is a central element of Indo-European religion, and one son being the son of God and the other being mortal is similar to the Greek Castor and Pollux. You could even argue that through Jesus, Thomas was given immortality, like Pollux gave Castor immortality
Because he didn't. The word for brother used in the gospels is very vague. It means brethren, which could refer to cousins or even step-brothers. Cause earliest christian tradition and belief states that Mary stayed a virgin and Jesus had no brothers.
Because there is a big difference between studying religions and how they develop versus being taught whatever doctrine the institution wants you to know.
Jesus brothers are listed in the Gospels, Paul of Tarsus cites « James, the brother of the Lord ». And Josephus, the Jewish historian says that this James was Jesus brother. Sources in the video. And the word used in Greek, adelphos, actually means brother, not cousin or brethren (there are other words for that).
@@chefchaudard3580 If Jesus had a brother he couldn't have given Mary to John while he was on the cross. It was the legal obligation of any sons to take care of their widowed mother in jewish law, per the commandment "honor thy father and mother." Therefore any one of his brothers, not John, would have been required to "take Mary into his home." Also Jewish people called each other brothers even if they were only relatives. Abraham calls Lot his brother even though Lot is his nephew. Lastly, St. Paul writes, “[Jesus] appeared to more than five hundred…brothers at the same time” (1 Cor. 15:6), in no way does this mean Mary gave birth to 500. And Paul was writing in Greek!
Hi, First, I want to say the I really enjoy your channel and videos. I was wondering why you've never referenced Elaine Pagels or her work. She seems to be a legitimate scholar and I find her lectures fascinating. I also want to say that I have listened to and am a fan of Bart D. Ehrman. I've listened to many of his lectures. Again just curious about Elaine and if you feel if she is a legitimate source. Thanks, Dean
14:02 hmm this reminds me of the stories of Sufi mystics who would proclaim they were God, or use “I” and say things about God, perhaps in a way of uniting themselves into God.
When channeling we were told Jesus had A twin who was also doing the same thing as him. It was written about in Buddhist txt when they studied there…the gifts those men had are coming back in others.
I am from the St Thomas Christian community (Nasranis)in Kerala, India and i can confirm that St Thomas is considered as a hero of faith in contrary to the doubting Thomas western theory. As the liturgical language of our church is Syriac, Thoma literally translates to Twin. It is believed by Kerala Christians that St Thomas looked like Jesus and even considered as a twin. There is a story where it says Mother Mary loved St Thomas more than other apostle's as he looked like Jesus therefore before her Dormition she appeared to Thomas in India and gave her Girdle to him.
Oh dear... I have a friend with the nickname Tede and he is a church musican, so most people think that Tede has something to due with Te Deum Laudamus a well known catholic hymn. But he grow up in Italy and his mother was German. So Tede is short for tedesco, the German in Italian. I would really like to see what theologians would do with our emails if we presented them as historical texts.
Does that mean the idea of being born from a virgin was added later? Because if people believed he had a twin brother, being the Son of God and having a divine nature doesn't fit with that story.
Jesus had 4 brothers: James, Simon, Joses & Jude. He had 3 sisters: Mary, Joanna & Sarah. Herod Phillip was called Thomas/Didymas (both names mean 'twin'). Herod Phillip was called the 'Twin', not because he was Jesus' twin brother, but because he was the 'twin' of Esau. Esau lost his birthright to Jacob. Phillip also lost his birthright. His mother was Mariamne II. She tried to have her husband (Herod the Great) assassinated. He divorced her & because of that Phillip lost his birthright just like Esau did.
She delivered them less than a year apart. Not uncommon for a young mother (child bride). They were Irish twins. The way people at their class level back then tracked time, by adulthood they'd consider themselves age peers.
Love these collaborations. I always feel that translating names is so weird, though. I suppose the Church felt that they needed to make them sound less alien. But James's name was Ya'aqov. They could've at least used Jacob. Thomas's Ta'oma was a bit better, I guess.
The early Latin and Greek gospels DO use Jacobus (or something along those lines). It was the English just before King James that Angle-Soxonized the name of the New Testament figure into “James” but left the Old Testament figure with Jacob with the Greco-Roman “this is a name” suffix.
I know right. Jesus was translated to English from Greek. But the Greeks pronounce it as Yes-suce, derived from the Hebrew pronunciation, Jeshua which we turned into Joshua. So Joshua is what the name Jeshua turned into, except for Jesus. [In English] I didn't know Jacob (Ya'aqov) is James. The Greeks are not to blame. They know the name was Jeshua, they only Greekified it. In Australia they will shorten Terry to Tez. Or in England Charles becomes Charlie.
This account of Thomas makes sense to me; it would explain why Judas had to identify Jesus by kissing him' and why so many believe Jesus survived the crucifixion, or even that he had children. The many stories of Jesus in Asia after the crucifixion make sense if it was Thomas, and would explain why those communities hold such conviction even till today. Thames as the twin image, the earthly brother of Jesus Christ, one we can emulate. I can see why the medieval church would have moved away from that idea.
As interesting as the idea of Jesus having a twin would be, it kind of undermines the truth of the resurrection for me. If there was someone who was capable of looking and acting like Jesus at the time, the possibility that the resurrection was a bit of stage magic instead of anything supernatural becomes way too compelling to ignore, especially thousands of years later. Heck, Thomas supposedly wasn't even around the first time the apostles met the resurrected Jesus; if he WAS the twin, him impersonating Jesus would fit extremely well. Considering the "twin" interpretation seems to be a later addition, I think it can be ignored as evidence to question the resurrection, but if it weren't... well, let's just say Thomas wouldn't be the only one doubting.
Personally, the fact that a resurrection is suggested at all makes me suspicious, but even if there weren't any literature about Jesu's twin I would be inclined to believe that he had one.
When I interviewed a Muslim man, his belief was that Judas felt guilty for betraying Jesus, so he swapped places with him on the cross so that Jesus could live in secret and he, Judas, would be punished for his betrayal.
Do you really think people were that stupid back in those days? How would you explain the holes in Jesus' hands, feet and his side? Also the fact that the video even mentions how Thomas doubted Jesus being resurrected from the dead, he obviously wasn't the only one who didn't believe at first until they saw Jesus. Lastly, where in the world did this Jesus impersonator went to after the resurrection? He just disappeared for good?
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Monad (from Greek μονάς monas, "singularity" in turn from μόνος monos, "alone") refers, in cosmogony, to the Supreme Being, divinity or the totality of all things.
The concept was reportedly conceived by the Pythagoreans and may refer variously to a single source acting alone, or to an indivisible origin, or to both.
The concept was later adopted by other philosophers, such as Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, who referred to the Monad as an elementary particle.
It had a geometric counterpart, which was debated and discussed contemporaneously by the same groups of people.
Q: Is the Monad (first emanation of God) the zero-dimensional space binding our quarks together with the strong nuclear force?
A: Leibniz's "The Monadology" is a philosophical work that explores the concept of monads as indivisible, immaterial substances that make up the fabric of reality. While the notion of monads is primarily philosophical and not directly related to modern physics, I can attempt to draw a connection between some of Leibniz's ideas and the strong nuclear force holding quarks together. Here are seven points of connection you could consider:
1) Indivisibility and Unity: Leibniz's monads are indivisible and lack parts. In a similar vein, quarks are elementary particles, indivisible according to our current understanding, and are the building blocks of hadrons, the particles held together by the strong force.
2) Interconnectedness: Leibniz's monads are interconnected, each reflecting the entire universe from its own perspective. In particle physics, the strong force binds quarks within hadrons, creating a complex interconnected system of particles.
3) Inherent Properties: Monads possess inherent perceptions and appetitions. In particle physics, quarks are associated with intrinsic properties like color charge, which influences their interactions through the strong force.
4) Harmony: Leibniz describes monads as creating harmony in the universe. Similarly, the strong nuclear force maintains stability within atomic nuclei by balancing the repulsive electromagnetic forces between positively charged protons.
5) Pre-established Harmony: Leibniz's concept of pre-established harmony suggests that everything is synchronized by design. In particle physics, the strong force ensures that quarks interact in ways that give rise to stable particles, exhibiting a form of "harmony" in their interactions.
6) Non-Mechanical Interaction: Leibniz's monads interact non-mechanically through perceptions. In the context of the strong force, quarks interact through the exchange of gluons, which doesn't follow classical mechanical rules but rather the principles of quantum field theory.
7) Holism: Leibniz's emphasis on the holistic nature of reality could be compared to the way quarks contribute to the overall structure and behavior of hadrons through their interactions mediated by the strong force.
em·a·na·tion
noun
an abstract but perceptible thing that issues or originates from a source.
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This is SO dumb! it really is embarrasing for anyone who calls themselves a scholar and actually comes up with this stuff!
Male and female is created for prison slave planets most of the natural Universe can engage in hermaphroditic asexual reproduction... easier to keep people separated and keep your slaves under control with male and female being divided.
I thought his brother was Brian? I saw a whole movie about it.
Look on the bright side of life
Brian is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
you're thinking of King Arthur who looked for the Holy Grail
@@dracodistortion9447 that was Brian's cousins son in my head cannon
Of course it’s Brian, his name isn’t stated in the text just the word Twin.
'Early Christian fanfiction'
That's the best sentence I've heard in a while, love it😊😊😊😂
I hadn't even reached the point in the video where this was said but I was just about to comment about how a major world religion sprang up out of what basically amounted to an extensive fanfic literary universe.
@@thetruextremeicon You are silly.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 Fabulous! Thanks for that.
@@thetruextremeiconyeah Mormons are weird
It's terribly fitting, since Christianity basically invented the idea of a canon.
So cool that you used the term "fan fiction." To me, it's an acknowledgment that we aren't so different from our ancestors. We are story-telling people and we have a long history of expanded universes.
Or maybe its true, and our version of christianity is the fan fiction?😅
@@reeyees50 Today's Christianity is more like a 2000-year-long game of "telephone." A modern Christian and 1st Century Christian wouldn't agree on anything except the bare basics about a dude getting nailed to a tree for saying everyone should be nice to each other for a change. Even the concept of the Trinity didn't come along for 200-300 years.
@@jasonblalock4429 Not true for two reasons:
1. All copies of the gospels--every single one--have always included the names of the authors, and they are unanimous in their attestation across the entire Roman Empire. The idea that there was a game of telephone going on; and yet every single copy of the 4 gospels were unanimously attributed across Europe, North Africa, and Asia Minor from before 125 AD is ridiculous.
~There is no such thing as an anonymous Gospel.~
Not to mention both Matthew and John were apostles themselves.
2. ~170 AD: Theophilius of Antioch talked about the Trinity by name
~155 AD: Polycarp of Smyrna--"I praise [the Father] through Jesus Christ, with Him and the Holy Spirit be glory now and forever."
~110 AD: Ignatius of Antioch--"prosper in the Son, and in the Father, and in the Spirit"
~90 AD: John the Apostle, called Jesus God--"the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
~60 AD: St. Paul was calling Jesus God--"the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ."
~33 AD: Jesus--"baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"
@@jasonblalock4429 Depends on the congregation and the first century believer. If they’re the original followers? No. We don’t even know much about who they were as people in the historical record or what they truly believed. But they’re most likely Second Temple Jewish or at the least follow the laws. They likely wouldn’t agree much with their Jewish cousins either since Judaism has definitely changed somewhat as well.
They wouldn’t really agree with pretty much anyone. Though it’d make for great entertainment once the language barrier is surpassed to cause peoples heads to explode or go into denial.
It would certainly make churches even emptier.
@@jasonblalock4429bro has never read the Bible
It's incredible to me how complicated these early Christian traditions and how different they're are from our modern ideas of this religion
Studying the diversity of these early offshoots can be a great way of defamiliarizing the modern orthodoxy and looking at it with fresh perspective.
Not so much complicated per se, but simply hadn’t been trimmed down and codified by the inevitable.. unenviable process of human expansion and editorial process that is accrued during the development of any belief system or longstanding Institutional.
It’s truly fascinating to see how people fail to understand the fact that it’s been two thousand years since Jesus walked into the Judaean Narrative/Timeline.
It’s odd how you think this is unique. Please stick to your studies.
Rando fringe movements have always existed. You are comparing them to the norm religion and not to other Christian rando fringe movements like frankly, Mormonism or Some of the weirder Pentecostal sects.
Oh, it was complicated - maybe people are only aware of their little corner of interest. For example, I'm not so interested in gnostic cosmologies... but I glanced into that door, and OMG is it overly complicated and weird in there, IMO. And they were only contrasting 2 groups... but there were many more groups of gnostics, and many more Christians who weren't gnostics.
Its always fascinating seeing different intepretations branching off, especially when they involve apocrypha centered around minor characters like this.
It's like fan fiction. Everyone in the fanbase has their own interpretation.
It's been ages since I saw anyone bring up this "Jesus had a twin" heresy.
@@br.mif he did, that'd be extra uncool to Mary by God. Delivering twins in the modern age is hard enough! Doing it in a stable in winter? Eeshm
@@leminjapan Hebrew women are vigorous.
@@mattmorehouse9685apocryphas are fan fiction, the books that compile the new testament all have apostolic authority and are legitimate however.
The section where one recognizes themselves as a "twin of Jesus" reminded me a lot of certain beliefs in Hinduism where ones Self is in actuality Shiva. Is it possible that those who cultivated Thomas as a central figure to Christianity did so from impulses eastward -- as you said, the Acts of Thomas had him travel to India. Great video as always!
This is what I was thinking about too! Ive been very fulfilled following nondual Shaivism for some time, and its curious how this overlaps. Sri Ramakrishna became Christian for a time, and said these paths all lead to the divine.
@@bustedkeaton Thank you, yes! That is exactly what I was referring to, but just couldn't remember the name!
Gnostic Gospels do have alot of parallels to Hindu and Buddhist beliefs so it is highly possible the Thomasine Christians had influences(I also tend to believe Jesus himself was influenced by Hinduism and Buddhism).
There are similar ideas in the Egyptian Priestly/Professional initiation rituals that inspired the Greek Hermetica so there's really no reason to go to India. Mostly Indian parrellels just stand out because Indian thought is both relatively popular and highly exoticised/othered.
Hindu Temple culture was probably imported from the Egypt/Syria/Babylon cultural continium (best evidence for this is lack of clear temple buildings in the Harrapan phase or Temple ideology in the Rig Veda) and the concept of divine doubles is kind of natural in 'idolatorous' cultures.
@@Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v Jesus being influenced by Hinduism and Buddhism is very unlikely imo.
When I knew little about the transmission of religion through history, I thought Christianity had always stayed constant throughout time.
When I knew a little more, I realized that we have lost some of the original context of Christianity and reinterpreted it to fit our current ideas.
Now I’m learning that since the very beginning of Christianity, Christians have been interpreting and reinterpreting the story of Jesus. It’s crazy how there has never been a static idea of who Jesus was or what he taught
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Wrong. The gospels are authentic, this is fantasy stuff from some groups way later. There are much more fake storys about jesus, read the quran. Historicaly unauthentic
The story of Jesus has been static since ~100 AD. The earliest copies of the gospels we have are from ~125 AD, none of them are anonymous. The idea that there was a game of telephone going on; and yet every single copy of the 4 gospels were unanimously attributed across Europe, North Africa, and Asia Minor from before 125 AD is ridiculous.
Additionally, even critics of Christianity from Rome said that we knew who the authors were. Celsus, 2nd-century Greek philosopher, does not attack the idea of Jesus existing, or that we did not even know who wrote the stories about Jesus. Instead, he says Jesus himself made up stories: “Let us imagine what a Jew - let alone a philosopher- might say to Jesus: ‘Is it not true, good sir, that you fabricated the story of your birth from a virgin to quiet rumours about the true and insavoury circumstances of your origins? Is it not the case that far from being born in the royal David’s city of bethlehem, you were born in a poor country town, and of a woman who earned her living by spinning?'"
Biggest change was the change from the Judaism which he taught to creation of a brand new religion divorced from the Judaism he taught
@michajones7837 where are you getting your info? Basically every Athiest and Thiest historian disagrees with you. The meaning of the Bible is the same now as it was from the original manuscripts.
I'm from Chennai, and we do have a St Thomas Mount which is supposedly the burial site of Thomas. Despite the fact that there's no historical evidence of this, it is mind blowing that one of the Apostles is believed to be buried in my city according to Christian tradition and it's not that big of a deal here. xD
Last year I walked the Camino de Santiago. A pilgrimage to the burial place of St James the Apostle, according to tradition. I loved it, it was great.
Not long after I visited family in India and we went to Chennai. They took me to the Basilica and I went down into the crypt to see the reliquary pray.
Both amazing experiences. But it was hard not to think how funny it is that hundreds of people a day go to Santiago and Rome to see Saints Peter, Paul and James. But I was in Chennai and there were only about a dozen people in the Basilica where Saint Thomas is believed to have been laid to rest.
@@emilchandran546 it's mostly down to eurocentrism. Most christians and most of christian history happened in Europe so European locations are generally more prominent
@@msdd7610most Christian history happened in Egypt, Ethiopia, Turkey, India, China, Persia and Arabia/Petra/Yemen.
Europeans were alien to Christianity until 300 years until it's way better established in Asia and Africa way longer.
@@abc_cba Most of the history didn't happen west of Syria, mostly in Israel, Turkey, Greece and Italy (and yeah ethiopia) there has been christianity in India, China and Persia but most of christian history didn't take place there.
@@msdd7610 I am talking about the populace and not the mentions of the places.
Twins have always been HUGE in mythology: Lav and Kusha from the Ramayana, Shatruman and Lakshmana from same, Nakul and Sahadev from the Mahabharata, Remus and Romulus, Artemis and Apollo (it's rarer to have fraternal twins), Castor and Pollux, the Asvan Horse Twins, Tijus Keha and Tawis Karong in Huron mythology: you name me a Near Eastern mythology, I can probably name you a set of twins.
They're common in the mythologies that developed from the the Proto Indo European religion, which Christianity is not. It is interesting that twins exist in the big two Sanskrit epics: Nakula-Sahadeva in the Mahabharata and Lakshmana and Shatrughna in the Ramayana.
Esau and Jacob as well, obviously.
@@chronikhiles Divine Twins are not exclusive to PIE-derived religions: the Mayan god twins, Tezcatlipoca and Quetzalcoatl and various other examples in the Americas attest to that. Besides, Christiniaty was influenced by Greek religion and philosophy, which is IE.
It was hard enough for a singleton birth to survive and thrive in the eras where almost half of them died before age 5. For twins to survive was a rare feat indeed. Unsurprisingly, many cultures considered this either a miracle, a curse, or possibly both.
Freyr and Freyja from Norse mythology are another set of fraternal twins.
@@digitaljanus I forget where I heard this from but in many cultures, twins posed a huge problem for inheritance, which made them be seen as bad luck. That and the fact that you had actual clones running around just seems unnatural, so it's quite sensical that people would ascribe cosmological importance to twins in one way or another.
I love bible fanfiction. Always enjoy these episodes. It connects me with people from thousands of years ago, because it's just the same today. People get two voice lines and an item description and develop whole complex lore, theories and storylines off of that. It's just about games and movies instead of the bible.
Sure "fanfiction" yup.....just that and nothing more 😅
@@reeyees50 Are you trying to suggest that historically unproven scriptures are real?
@@brant-sd8ui Such as? So many contratictions in the scriptures, as well as little supporting archeological evidence suggest most of what was written is pure fiction.
@@TitaniusAnglesmith How does one historically prove a text, religious or non religious? And can you explain the difference between a Biblical account of Jesus and a non Biblical account of Pontius Pilate, for example?
@@ReyFelipe00 Mostly archeological evidence and corroborating accounts. We know that certain people, Pontus Pilatus, Jesus, Julius Caesar, for instance, existed and even know many of their actions. We can determine with a decent degree of certainty that they existed and did certain things. However, when there are many accounts that do not line up with eachother, we know that, at the least, that events did not take place as described. If 100 people see a crime and write down the same witness, it's more likely they are correct than the group that only gives verbal testimony and everyone gives a different description.
This has me thinking about a parallel in ancient Egyptian culture: the Ka. It's often represented by a "twin" or mirror image of a person with the Ka symbol on their head. Since the Ka represents the spark of life and the spark of the divine in a person, it makes sense that it looks like the person. It's their divine twin! So interesting!
no. read what i wrote above. your following the wrong path
@@ashzole huh? I'm confused. What path am I following?
@@KTempestBradford Your silly Ka and sparks of life. Wrong PATH to think and make a silly connection. I told you already to look at my other post. New comments.
@@ashzole um. Are you okay? Your comments don't make much sense.
@@KTempestBradford dude, read my comments on the main thread, it explains everything EVERYTHING
All the proof of God I need is the fact that we get access to this caliber of superb educational content for FREE 🙌🏻 Awesome video as usual
Blessing the algorithm with commentary is the True Way :]
I think you're on the right track! ✊🤓
You're being led away from the truth with this message. Jesus was the 6 son of the most high.
I like to think all this started because Jesus and his buddy Thomas showed up to the market accidentally wearing the same robe and sandals, called each other "twinsies," and then a whole lot of future christians took it WAAAAAY out of context in the best way.
I wonder what the Greek for "twinsies" is...😁
I always assumed Thomas was Jesus' twin to fit Hercules and Iphicles, Castor and Pollux, Helen and Clytemnestra etc where one twin is divine and the other mortal
But nickname, maybe Thomas was just some random guy who looked like Jesus, hence the nickname. Either way look-a-like explains the Judas kiss.
When the Police arrest Jesus, He makes a big deal, "You saw me preaching in the Temple every day. Why didn't you arrest me then?" If Thomas looked the same as Jesus, then the Judas kiss becomes necessary
Well, You're a bit off with the Police things in here. Because the one who arrested Yesus was Roman Soldiers, not Jew Police or something. Of course Romans would never come to the Temple.
Al final una lógica verdad. Aún así cientos antes y después....
Truco Alienígena????👽
This seems to explain a number of etymological questions I've had. I'm going to watch this again and rejoice if it indeed leads me where I need to go. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Wait, I've been taught brother is the same word as cousin in Aramaic, with a few examples found also in the Old testament of people calling each other brothers when they are simply blood relatives.
Yup
@@gawayne1374 same in Russia. No word for cousin.
This is such an evocative subject matter! The notions about our place as primordial beings "made of light" feels particularly reminiscent of Eastern philosophies as well as modern perceptions of the afterlife, especially related to the psychedelic movement. The idea of Oneness, the idea of life inherently being the nexus of suffering and that our return to the Oneness will allow us to escape it. Great video RFB!
Yeah I was surprised to hear that was a popular belief all the way back then, it sounds exactly like what many people who have had nde's describe.
@@CampingforCool41 Early Syrian Christians high on mushrooms xD
Manechaism was huge at the time. Mani spent a lot of his family’s wealth and personal charisma pushing it so far it almost took over Buddhism and Augustine converted away from it because Manichaeism was too vegan and personally useless to gain social power against another.
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That's all related to gnosticism, which the Church recognized as heretical because it denied the goodness of physical reality. The gnostics also denied that Jesus was was fully human because God can't become part of nasty dirty physical reality. But Christians always believed in the incarnation and the physical resurrection of christ, and that after the judgement the dead will be raised into new bodies like christ was. This was what made Christianity much more unique; it was and is incarnational. God's plan was not for us to escape this world, but to redeem and remake it.
I went to Catholic schools, and there were all sorts of statements that the word brother -- referring to James or Jude -- really meant cousin because Mary was "ever virgin." As a Protestant, I found it both funny and puzzling.
I liked this video.
A virgin can become pregnant through IVF.
@@user61512 not sure they had that 2000 years ago
Seems like I’ve heard of that interpretation before, but growing up Baptist, I always knew it as coming from one of the other denominations and therefore being “wrong.” I can honestly see why Mary having other sons might be troubling for the theology of a sect that venerates her for her purity, though it strikes me as odd because why would they describe them as brothers when they mean cousins if they described John the Baptist as his cousin?
Well, it is possible but I think it is less likely.
Kinship terms in various language families: ruclips.net/video/YOi2c2d3_Lk/видео.html
I’m so struck by that verse from the Gospel of Thomas chap. 22, speaking on duality and oneness. These ideas are universal truths that we see repeated throughout so many other religions (especially those from South Asia)
Me too! This union of opposites has also become central in Jungian psychology, it's the path to becoming One's Self
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I think he wasnt a literal twin, but a brother that really came out just like Jesus, everyone has seen siblings like that, so its interesting to see how they treat this
Tomas literally means twin, It's unambiguous, not a oh wow you look alike, of course they looked alike they were all brothers..
His brothers were Jacob/Yakov which for some reason they translate as James, Shimon/Simeon who everyone calls Peter. Joseph again hellenized as Joses and finally his twin brother Judah changed to Judas or Jude.
Both Joshua (hellenized as Jesus) and Judah would have been known as twin, in the same way we would call both twins we know 'twin' as well as their actual names now. The brothers. Joshua, Judah, Jacob, Shimon, were the leaders of a sect of ultra orthodox Torah observance from Arabia. Living in a commune nicknamed 'The Poor' dedicated the brothers dedicated their lives to Torah and pop up in all sorts of extra-biblical sources that are remarkable in the sense that they all seem to not only challenge the Gospel narrative but agree with each other in certain senses. Some things can be extrapolated from this.
Joshua/Jesus' ''disciples' were basically his brothers initially & eventually many more.
Their hometown was in the South, Arabian Desert.
They may have spent time in all of Egypt, Iraq, Iran, India all of which had thriving Torah observant Jewish communities.
They were related to and married into wealthy and influential families in the Levant.
Both Joshua & Jacob became high priests as stated by both Josephus and the Talmud.
There are many Joshua/Jesuses at the time as it was a popular messianic name. Josephus names about 20. IT appears that the gospel writers amalgamated a number of these into their character version of Jesus The Christ.
Joshua and Judah as twins are a clear motif to previous literary twins/brothers like Cain/Abel, Jacob/Esau, Romulus/Remus, Enki/Enlil signifying good/evil, heaven/underworld, city/nomad, farmer/hunter as well as gnostic teachings of spiritual duality.
It's all made up nonsense tagged onto snippets of myth and legend, bundled into something ritualistic as the basis of a theological way of life. The perennial search for meaning by lost souls.
I LOLed at the “early Christian fan fiction” reference. Very informative. Thanks!
Not directly related, but I find it funny-awesome that "fanfiction" has apparently become a standard comparison in analyzing ancient texts and their impact. I mean, it makes perfect sense, but it's still interesting that such a niche geeky term has migrated into academic discourse.
The Thomasine teaching of twins is something we see in Valentinianism (a Gnostic branch of Christianity), where the heavenly marriage between your soul and your angel counterpart is salvation itself.
Your best line was at 3:17! The line starting "if you know anything . . . "! It is a hilarious line. If your students aren't laughing in the aisles during your lectures, I won't understand why!
It warrants a chuckle but nothing more
he is saying subliminally in the time frame you gave 3:17. If you know… what in that time frame you gave, what message do you see. hint: cananitte god. do you see it, if not THEN YOU KNOW NOTHING
This is very creative. I am pretty sure I am doubting Thomas's fraternal twin. In Greek, brother means relative. In the Odyssey, we know that Odysseus is an only son. He does have a sister. Yet, the Osysseus crewmen are called his brothers. Some Eastern Christians think Jude and James are Joseph's children. I think the term brother is just like we call someone's friends homeboy or homie.
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Good to know the “Draco in leather pants” trope is 2000 years old! 🤣
9:04 This is the first time I've heard about this in such depth.
Thank you.
It would be interesting to compare cultures & traditions where Thomas is considered a twin with the non-christian religious traditions in the same area, particularly looking at if the Divine Twins archetype is also present! I mean, we know that a temple to Castor & Pollux was converted to the Basilica of Cosmas & Damian, but they weren't martyred until the turn of the fourth century IIRC.
I wonder if this isn't a reflection of the indo-european horse twin cult, in which one child was the son of a god (usually the sky father) and the other was his mortal twin brother, and both would be heroes of great renown. Castor and Pollux was one example, Hengist and Horsa is probably another, and the Ashvins are the indian reflex.
It's interesting to me that some of the quotes calling Thomas "Jesus's Twin Brother" could just mean he's Jesus's brother and a twin. Doesn't necessarily mean Jesus was the other twin. At least that's a possible modern English vernacular reading.
Of course, some of those quotes are more direct.
I wonder how ancient Greek and Aramaic siblings of twins spoke of them...
I read the Bible in Latin and I didn’t ever pick up the twin meanings in the name because it doesn’t translate the same way (not specifically what you asked but it’s a different translation lol)
@@fZM0OY We don't usually pick it up in English translations either.
When I was learning about Islam, over 10 years ago, I went to a mosque and interviewed someone. Not sure how many people actually believe this, but at least this person I interviewed believed Judas was Jesus's look-a-like. He used the word "twin", but they are not blood related. He believed Judas felt guilty he betrayed Jesus, and Judas took his place at the cross so that Jesus could escape and live the rest of his life in secret.
That always stuck with me.
Yes, the Quran says that not Jesus, but a man looking like him was killed (4:157). It does not say it was Judas, I'm afraid that is muslim fanfic inspired by the bible.
Nice story. But for that to happen, the Roman guards would have to be in on it or at least bribed. It does explain what the Buddhists in India say. That Jesus (Jeshua) ended up dying in India at an old age. They even say that he spent his missing teenage years in India, that the three wise men were Buddhist scholars who predicted his birth with Astronomy and that the name he later used in India was given to him by people in Persia as he travelled to India from the middle east.
The story is plausible because in the Bible, Judas does die.
The main thing is the wisdom that Jesus tried to tell people. Whether he was Indian / Jewish / lived on or died is not that important.
Personally, I find the India story less offensive than the story that he went to France.
The most interesting thing is whether Jesus ever actually existed. Some believe he didn't, some believe he did. This is why I find Thomas so interesting. Do Indian people remember Thomas going to India? I mean, are there any historical records of this in India?
The labelling of St Thomas as "the doubter" is some kind of anti-Thomas propaganda.
I am very interested in anything about Thomas Didymus Judas (St Thomas).
According to the Bible Thomas had to inspect the wound. So that he could believe.
Logically, if Jesus and Judas faked it, Jesus would have left as soon as possible, not been hanging around there days later.
But you can't believe everything in scripture.
Originally Muslims believed in Jesus. For some reason this changed. Believing in him and worshiping him was where Islam split from Christianity.
Now I have learned that there is a trinity at the heart of Hinduism. Interesting ...
@@berranari1 muslims still believe in Jesus peace be upon him, as a messiah, not a God. Christians worship Jesus PBUH. Muslims follow Jesus’s PBUH message alongside the other prophets. Thats the difference.
@@israahmad1981 I am starting to agree with that position personally. After all we are all children of God.
@@berranari1 considering that Islams quaran is a badly written and crudely plagerised version of of the old and new testament. And the holy Bible is very detailed compared to the small and very confusing and conflicting quaran. Then maybe you should drive deeper in both books do research on each of them where certain subjects come from and ask questions like "why is the quaran not in chronological order? Why in the holy Bible does Jesus Christ call himself the son of man? Where else in Arabia were there other fringe sects that viewed Jesus Christ not as God prior to Islam? And why did Mohammed/Allah seem to change opinions constantly?"
There are many more but if you use critical thinking and good judgement you'll see a clearer understanding of which one is the one true faith.
5:20 Hey, I'm from Kerala (India).Can you make a video on Indian Christians ? They are really fascinating
I think Jesus is speaking to you if you believe this, you should do some research on his life and teachings. I have a fascination with Indian Christians also.
@@domcruise274 man I'm already a Christian 😂. I am just curious about our history
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As a kid I came up with the idea that Jesus was basically just doing the prestige.
I love to learn more about the how we are/were beings of light and other related subjects pertaining to some primordial form or existence. So where is a good place to start? What are some suggestions to try and learn about such subjects?
Muslims believes that a man in likeness of Jesus (pbuh) got crucified and Jesus (pbuh) still alive next to God and the angles, and he's gonna come back in the end of times.
How come no one told me this?
Im considering Islam now
very interesting, Rudolf Steiners books about his vision from the so called akasha records he notes that there where indeed two Jesus (children)
That’s NOT what the Quran teaches though.
According to the Quran, the crucifixion was MADE TO APPEAR SO to them.
It seems Muslims started interpreting this as a replacement, which the Gnostics believed before Islam.
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You really believe Jesus literally had a twin brother and he was the one crucified in place of Jesus? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Brother is used in many different ways.
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny deVito all over again.
Blind sheep 🐑. 🐑 Haha 😄🤣😂
It doesn’t beg the question. It raises the question. Begging the question refers to circular reasoning.
I wonder if they imagined that Tomas was also born without a human father and preceded creation.
What??! Never heard that🤯
OMG poor Mary 😅
If he was Jesus twin, he had no mortal father, meaning god knocked Mary up only once
In Deuteronomy 4:2 Moses declares, “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commands of the Lord your God which I command you.” The only way in which we can rightly “keep” God's commands is to not add or subtract from his word
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Thinking as an early church father, it would not be so convenient to have Thomas as a twin, it wouldn't be so hard to draw a paralel between Jacob and Esau, with Jesus being Jacob and Esau Thomas. In this case, Thomas would not be be a redemeed Esau, but he could be interpreted as anti-christ, and be worship as a living god.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it would also present issues with the nativity narrative since we don't have any details on the cannonical gospels talking about two babies being born at once.
Maybe Thomas was born like a year later and he did look a lot alike, hence the nickname, without being his actual twin?
Well, all that assuming that there was a historical Jesus with a bunch of brothers all running around after him.
I never knew about this. Thank you!
That reminds me of Star Wars lore before the prequals.
There were people who believed uncle Owen was Obi-Wan brother,not Anakin's.
And there were many fanfics about their relation.
As a Christian, my interpretation of 12:21 is, he’s relating us to our Christlike spirit. Also, the marriage, it’s referring to how during marriage you should be yoked together as one.
The Christian like spirit comes from that feeling of knowing that you are doing some thing you do not want to be doing, despite it feeling good for your flesh in the moment. Like excessive, drinking or any other distraction/ addiction to cope with serious issues.
Okey dokey😒
Funny to think that the whole resurrection story might just have been an elaborate twin-prank that got waaay out of control 🙄
So, was Jesus's mother, who was said to be a virgin, supposed to have given birth to _two_ babies in that stable?
Lol.
That should tell you that Jesus having a twin brother is nonsensical.
Wouldn't an identical twin make it several times easier to rise from the dead?
If Jesus had an identical twin brother, that could explain (and complicate) the whole "Jesus was resurrected" story.
If it was just his brother that everyone saw, that could explain many of the revelation stories.
Okay, okay. His "Twin" wasn't some mysterious hidden twin that's been in Albion for the 12 years and got back stowing away on a ship.
His "Twin" was literally a disciple of his and according to John, also interacted with the risen him.
Do you really think people are gonna mistake an adult they've seen near another adult a thousand times even after having close personal conversations?.
@@ikengaspirit3063 I have twin friends who AREN'T identical (though they look similar) and people who have known them for years, but who aren't that close with them, still confuse them sometimes.
Also, seeing someone from a distance, etc. can also make a difference. No one is saying that all of the stories are all 100% accurate. This could still explain some things.
@@GaviLazan And how many of the stories are about seeing some guy from a distance?.
One is about meeting, traveling with and then logging for a while with disciples. Another is about meeting his apostles so closely that Thomas could stick his hand in Jesus' stomach, another is fishing with Peter and the apostles.
These are people that knew well, personal appearances and expressing awareness of some of the clear(not vague like slightly different facial muscles, which people do notice) differences that would exist between twins like a huge scar/wound on the stomach.
This doesn't work, at all.
I'm kinda flabbergasted that Red Dwarf referenced this in an episode somewhat accurately even including the link to India!
The problem with Thomas being a literal twin is the logistics of Mary's pregnancy. In order for one twin to be divinely conceived and one ordinarily conceived, Mary would have had to have not been a virgin. I think it's more likely that he was someone who resembled Jesus enough to have been frequently mistaken for him when seen up close--maybe even his half-brother.
There was Thomism in the medieval church as well.
So little bro started his own cult. 😆😁😄
@@hackman669 it's a joke, different thomas lol
This has some interesting parallels with the Indo-European divine twins theme
Westerners copying Asians. 😁
Excuse me but the middle east IS IN ASIA
This is getting out if hand. Now there are two of them.
Some Muslims believe a man (maybe Judas) was crucified instead of Jesus. Maybe it was Judas Thomas?
Yes, someone told me his belief is that Judas took his place for his betrayal.
An RFB video with Mark Goodacre… it doesn’t get better than that!
There's a channel called Crecganford that goes into a lot of mythology, and divine twins are a staple in old myths. I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus fit the divine twin trope
Well look at that, another great video Dr. Henry! Truly appreciate the insight you provide.
Thanks for the awesome videos. Hope you can make a video about the earliest icons of Jesus and how it impacted early Christianity. Also, can you tackle why most of the New Testament mostly focuses on Paul's letters where there are also letters coming from the other apostles of Jesus. Thank you.
Has it ever been explained how the early Thomasine tradition may have influenced the "Saint Thomas Christians" of India? Despite their claims of descent from the Thomasine community, it does not seem they have in any way preserved any early scripture based around Thomas, such as the Gospel of Thomas or the Acts of Thomas.
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this is packed with all sorts of importance. Thank you so much
3:16 My guess, based solely upon being a human being, is that maybe he looked like Jesus (or possibly another member of the group), so they gave him the nickname of The Twin.
Why not? I served with someone who was a dead ringer for our squad leader...a bit smaller, though...so I called him Junior. And the name stuck.
Junior means descendant, twin means equal. Remember we are speaking of Jesus Christ here. It’s not a fitting dichotomy in this case.
The Gospels of Thomas should be mainstream again. The epitome of Christianity. Also it really channels into the esoteric side of the bible which intrigues me more than anything.
A Jesus twin could explain the resurrection, like the twin trick in “The Prestige”.
For example when my dad passed away, we went round his house, and his (doppelgänger) brother came out to greet us.
We hadn’t seen him in years, and we momentarily shat a brick.
The New testament and Jesus and his ministry is a fascinating subject and makes me wonder how much or how many scraps of parchment the Catholic church is hiding in the Vatican🤔 Because I realize that them books have been canonized in no order in which to control the population within a conformist belief system, which splintered off into the various sects of Christianity; besides if religion is supposed to be a personal relationship between you and your god of your understanding, why conform instead of searching🤷
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Then again how are we supposed to know it's only for the Evangelical thing to have a personal relationship, especially seeing how I've heard it out of other denominations of Christians... I think religion oughta be kept private in your closet which means not a group thing, but a personal endeavor🤔 I never been one for groups though 🤷
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I really don't care if their denomination, or not They're really evil angels posing as a group of religious people in order to twist turn demon eyes and abused people; just like gets always been from the church, it's always going to be from the church look with the conservatives are doing to the lgbtq Community, because they think their God and they can make the decision for God 🤔
Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter!
Rock of ages cleft in twain. This plot leaves my head in pain.
Thank you so much for putting footnotes on screen. I just wish I still had my JSTOR account.
I doubt it
It's well-known the word translated as "brother" can refer to a variety of close male relatives in both Hebrew and Greek.
Swami vivekenanda in his first statement said my brothers and sisters of the west. It could be more of a equality type of use of the word
Would be curious to see how Christians and their Christian churches and sects react if it was for proven beyond doubt that James was indeed a brother (not a cousin) AND that Thomas was as well. It would be such a contradiction to prior teachings (or lack of). It could really be a Buzz Lightyear "Years of academy training wasted" moment.
Well for one thing my man here already confirmed that most historians do believe Jesus has a bro named James (not a cousin) which already lines up with what Christians already believe. As for any historical proof contradicting bla bla bla the reality is that faith doesn't work like that. Faith is essentially evidence that's not material bubbling up from within you that the path you are on is true cuz what you have heretofore experienced is real. Tldr; if any proof supposedly contradicting the Bible is found Christians will think, "do I believe human scholars or do I believe God?" And they will choose God every time.
Believers are usually not bothered about contradictions.
they'd find a way to rationalize it away, don't worry
@@lowenzahn3976 that's a lie anytime I have pointed out contradictions in the Bible I get a bunch of not soo nice things said about me or they start pointing out other texts in the Bible that has nothing to do with the text I'm talking about
They would just include Protoevangelion Jacobii, the Gospel of Thomas, and the Acts of Thomas in the New New Testament. It's literally already thought of.
Reminds me of Uniting Upper and Lower Ka's in Egyptian. And how Odin was called Transgender (Artith Haager), as was the god who masturbated to make reality in Egyptian.
And the fact that Thomas went to India is quite interesting to me and my beliefs, as a Hindu.
Hmmm... Maybe this is why John added the doubting Thomas story... To prevent people from saying it was Thomas everyone saw, during the resurrection, not Jesus?
Could this be an attempt by early Christians to adapt some elements of the new religion into pre-existing religious traditions. The idea of the Divine Twins is a central element of Indo-European religion, and one son being the son of God and the other being mortal is similar to the Greek Castor and Pollux. You could even argue that through Jesus, Thomas was given immortality, like Pollux gave Castor immortality
How on earth did I never know Jesus had a brother at all?? 10 years of catholic school and this is the first I’m hearing of either of them.
Because he didn't. The word for brother used in the gospels is very vague. It means brethren, which could refer to cousins or even step-brothers. Cause earliest christian tradition and belief states that Mary stayed a virgin and Jesus had no brothers.
Because there is a big difference between studying religions and how they develop versus being taught whatever doctrine the institution wants you to know.
Jesus brothers are listed in the Gospels, Paul of Tarsus cites « James, the brother of the Lord ». And Josephus, the Jewish historian says that this James was Jesus brother.
Sources in the video.
And the word used in Greek, adelphos, actually means brother, not cousin or brethren (there are other words for that).
Catholics interprete it as Cousin Brother or Half brother, that's probably why.
@@chefchaudard3580 If Jesus had a brother he couldn't have given Mary to John while he was on the cross. It was the legal obligation of any sons to take care of their widowed mother in jewish law, per the commandment "honor thy father and mother." Therefore any one of his brothers, not John, would have been required to "take Mary into his home."
Also Jewish people called each other brothers even if they were only relatives. Abraham calls Lot his brother even though Lot is his nephew. Lastly, St. Paul writes, “[Jesus] appeared to more than five hundred…brothers at the same time” (1 Cor. 15:6), in no way does this mean Mary gave birth to 500. And Paul was writing in Greek!
Hi, First, I want to say the I really enjoy your channel and videos. I was wondering why you've never referenced Elaine Pagels or her work. She seems to be a legitimate scholar and I find her lectures fascinating. I also want to say that I have listened to and am a fan of Bart D. Ehrman. I've listened to many of his lectures. Again just curious about Elaine and if you feel if she is a legitimate source. Thanks, Dean
I am another secret twin of Jesus. There's me, Jesus, our brother Hong Xiuquan, and the youngest of us Isukiri.
"We was twins the whole time!" -Screwball Squirrel
Plot twist: the Romans accidentally crucified Thomas not Jesus 😂
14:02 hmm this reminds me of the stories of Sufi mystics who would proclaim they were God, or use “I” and say things about God, perhaps in a way of uniting themselves into God.
Also it kinda fits in with Hindu ideas of reuniting with Moksha which might be why Thomas is popular in India (if I understand Brahman correctly).
Nice video man! I really would like to see a video about the apostle Paul
Cool episode. The gospel of Thomas makes a lot more sense if Thomas was his twin. Thank you ❤
Yeah, I'd never heard the Twin thing either until today. Neat!
Do you really believe this?
When channeling we were told Jesus had A twin who was also doing the same thing as him. It was written about in Buddhist txt when they studied there…the gifts those men had are coming back in others.
I am from the St Thomas Christian community (Nasranis)in Kerala, India and i can confirm that St Thomas is considered as a hero of faith in contrary to the doubting Thomas western theory. As the liturgical language of our church is Syriac, Thoma literally translates to Twin. It is believed by Kerala Christians that St Thomas looked like Jesus and even considered as a twin. There is a story where it says Mother Mary loved St Thomas more than other apostle's as he looked like Jesus therefore before her Dormition she appeared to Thomas in India and gave her Girdle to him.
Oh dear... I have a friend with the nickname Tede and he is a church musican, so most people think that Tede has something to due with Te Deum Laudamus a well known catholic hymn. But he grow up in Italy and his mother was German. So Tede is short for tedesco, the German in Italian. I would really like to see what theologians would do with our emails if we presented them as historical texts.
Does that mean the idea of being born from a virgin was added later? Because if people believed he had a twin brother, being the Son of God and having a divine nature doesn't fit with that story.
Fascinating, so could the "Jesus" that apparently died in that village in Japan be Thomas, not Jesus?
Oh now it makes sense
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@@hackman669 I always wondered why my name meant Twin
Another fascinating video! Great.
Jesus had 4 brothers: James, Simon, Joses & Jude. He had 3 sisters: Mary, Joanna & Sarah. Herod Phillip was called Thomas/Didymas (both names mean 'twin'). Herod Phillip was called the 'Twin', not because he was Jesus' twin brother, but because he was the 'twin' of Esau. Esau lost his birthright to Jacob. Phillip also lost his birthright. His mother was Mariamne II. She tried to have her husband (Herod the Great) assassinated. He divorced her & because of that Phillip lost his birthright just like Esau did.
She delivered them less than a year apart. Not uncommon for a young mother (child bride).
They were Irish twins. The way people at their class level back then tracked time, by adulthood they'd consider themselves age peers.
Love these collaborations. I always feel that translating names is so weird, though. I suppose the Church felt that they needed to make them sound less alien. But James's name was Ya'aqov. They could've at least used Jacob. Thomas's Ta'oma was a bit better, I guess.
The early Latin and Greek gospels DO use Jacobus (or something along those lines). It was the English just before King James that Angle-Soxonized the name of the New Testament figure into “James” but left the Old Testament figure with Jacob with the Greco-Roman “this is a name” suffix.
*without the suffix
I know right. Jesus was translated to English from Greek. But the Greeks pronounce it as Yes-suce, derived from the Hebrew pronunciation, Jeshua which we turned into Joshua.
So Joshua is what the name Jeshua turned into, except for Jesus. [In English]
I didn't know Jacob (Ya'aqov) is James.
The Greeks are not to blame. They know the name was Jeshua, they only Greekified it.
In Australia they will shorten Terry to Tez. Or in England Charles becomes Charlie.
This account of Thomas makes sense to me; it would explain why Judas had to identify Jesus by kissing him' and why so many believe Jesus survived the crucifixion, or even that he had children. The many stories of Jesus in Asia after the crucifixion make sense if it was Thomas, and would explain why those communities hold such conviction even till today. Thames as the twin image, the earthly brother of Jesus Christ, one we can emulate. I can see why the medieval church would have moved away from that idea.
As interesting as the idea of Jesus having a twin would be, it kind of undermines the truth of the resurrection for me. If there was someone who was capable of looking and acting like Jesus at the time, the possibility that the resurrection was a bit of stage magic instead of anything supernatural becomes way too compelling to ignore, especially thousands of years later. Heck, Thomas supposedly wasn't even around the first time the apostles met the resurrected Jesus; if he WAS the twin, him impersonating Jesus would fit extremely well. Considering the "twin" interpretation seems to be a later addition, I think it can be ignored as evidence to question the resurrection, but if it weren't... well, let's just say Thomas wouldn't be the only one doubting.
I think you have to choose between the gospel we have recorded in the bible or a "different gospel".
Personally, the fact that a resurrection is suggested at all makes me suspicious, but even if there weren't any literature about Jesu's twin I would be inclined to believe that he had one.
When I interviewed a Muslim man, his belief was that Judas felt guilty for betraying Jesus, so he swapped places with him on the cross so that Jesus could live in secret and he, Judas, would be punished for his betrayal.
Do you really think people were that stupid back in those days?
How would you explain the holes in Jesus' hands, feet and his side? Also the fact that the video even mentions how Thomas doubted Jesus being resurrected from the dead, he obviously wasn't the only one who didn't believe at first until they saw Jesus. Lastly, where in the world did this Jesus impersonator went to after the resurrection? He just disappeared for good?
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Jesus having a twin makes the whole resurrection thing hella sus
Is that gen z tiktok speak?