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He's really bias in favour of gnostics for some reason! He is presenting ideas as facts, and imo, twisting reality into his narrative. Dismissing other Christian writers of the time as liars and deceivers is strange.
@@LJ7000 who is doing that? I’ve never seen either of those things happen on this channel or on Let’s Talk Religion. I think you’re taking dispassionate historical analysis as some form of polemic. I would examine why you think this if I were you.
This intro is great! I'm used to seeing academic discussions online about Gnosticism assuming the theory that Gnostics didn't really exist and we need to drop the category altogether. It's good to finally see Brakke's work given the attention it deserves and presented to a popular audience! I take it that you don't follow Turner's theory that the Sethians eventually wandered away from Christianity, becoming more Platonic in the process?
When you say that "religions are internally diverse", there are members of religious groups that will disagree with that. Many Orthodox Jews in Israel don't consider Reform Judaism to be a legitimate form of Judaism. And many Jews don't consider people that blend Christianity with Judaism religiously Jewish.
I love seeing this interaction between East and West in honesty. One of my other favorite examples is the West Östlicher Divan by Faust, inspired by the Persian poet Hafez.
@@ImperatorGrausam "And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you [might] turn, there is the Face of Allah. Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing." Surah Al Baqarah Verse 115
I read the entire old testament in high school and thought to myself "This doesn't make sense. How can this truly be the God that everyone talks about". Since then, I've read the Kybalion and most of the corpus hermeticum looking for answers, but after finding this video, things are actually starting to make sense. I've ordered a translation of the nag hammadi yesterday and can't wait to learn more. I feel like a huge hole is starting to get filled and my questions are finally starting to get answered. Thank you for making this video, and I thank the all for taking me down this amazing journey.
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@@divestedhappyblackwoman3465 The force of living and what constitutes it is self-evident. God wouldn't need to tell anyone nor would be obligated to. I'm an Agnostic btw.
In a way this is akin to the Vedic notion of Maya; it's not that all is illusion, it's that our perception(s) are illusory due to ignorance. The One True Reality or God *is* here and now because there is only God in Reality.
I have often heard the term 'Gnostic' thrown around in my adult life, and having been raised Christian, the incredibly little I thought I knew seemed too weird to be understood. Enter a band called Meshuggah, and one of my favourite songs by them is called 'Demiurge'. After hundreds of listens, I recently thought to do a bit of an exploration of what it might be referring to. I'm only sad that I didn't do it sooner. My mind is absolutely blown. Thank you for such coherent content for a true novice like myself to perhaps just begin to try and understand all of this. Truly excellent starting point.
@@wisdomoftheages8026 it seems that the hermetic, gnostics, and alchemists each claim to be the progenitor of the other. If you believe jung's interpretation alchemy originated in china then traveled throughout the world copulated with other cultures and back and led to hermeticism as well as what is said here then there are the hermetists who claim all occultism stems from them but are only half true but perhaps I don't know the proper hermetic texts to read. I keep hearing a lot of them are corrupted
The Sethian breakdown of reality is SO similar to Hindu Vedanta. Even assigning the male gender to characterize the "Ultimate Oneness" and the female gender to "the Ultimate Original Thought", which in Sanskrit is called Brahman, or Purusha (male) and Prakriti (female), or God and Goddess. It is all within the Ultimate One and never (really) separate. I'm so grateful you took the time to teach us this... thank you. It's the best overview of Gnosticism I've ever seen so far.😍
Bad comparison, the Vedic deities will be relegated as divinities sprung from The Abyss much of how Greco-Roman deities and Hindu Pantheon are often attributed by early Hindus as born from the bowels of Abyss or the primordial waters of Tehom, whereas Sethian texts akin to "On The Origin of The World" considers these Pagan worship of Primordial Abyss/Tehom as false Even the concept of Brahman comes after centuries if not millennias of development, on top of Buddhist rivals of the pivotal battles between concept of Hindu eternal Atman/Jivas and Buddhist Anatman/Shunyata in India, some of The Sethians and General Valentinian Theology also considers the concept of Psyche/Self as belong to second category of Yaldabaoth/Demiurge/Craftsman's belonging, akin to how Christian and Jews are belonging to repentant Sabaoth and his Retinues (resembling of Eternal Buddha of Lotus Sutra in terms of achieving enlightenment by countless Kalpas before creation of The World after he found Prajna and achieve Enlightenment in remote metaphysical realms or as Adi Buddha with his consort White Tara, much like Sabaoth gained Sophia's own daughter "Zoe" for accompanying Sabaoth to helps his missions to gather the "Psychics" so they can saved and became "Pneumatics") The Pneumatikois is considered to be superior to Psikhikoi/Psychics (belongings to Temples, Synagogues and Churches) and Hylics/Materialists (Pagans and Atheists, as even Platonists like Plotinus happens to criticise the Christian Sethians and Valentinians too), if anything the three categories resembles more of Islamic distinction of Mu'min/Believers, Ahl Kitabi/People of The Book and Kuffars/disbelievers/polytheists
Europeans and indians have Aryan origin. Thus we have huge similarities in religion and culture, more than we would like to admit. Just compare Greek and early vedic gods.
@@ohamatchhams I disagree. The similarities are too obvious to deny. I wasn't talking about "original Hinduism". I specifically said "Vedanta", which includes a variety of post-Buddhist schools of deeper self-inquiry with the pursuit of an experiential understanding of "god", the "self", and "existence" and our relationship with "existence", along with "what's required to exit the cycle of samsara". They have framed the much older ideas of gods and goddesses in this way to create a vocabulary for more esoteric ideas.
@@myfuture3453 So true! I am not a scholar but have spent thousands of hours studying and reading "Hindu" literature. Millions of hours still wouldn't make a dent in the subject. But I was amazed at how familiar their stories are and how relatable the characters are too. It isn't so "exotic" or "unapproachable" as one would think. Our cultures are much closer linked than we are taught to believe. The cultural "divorce" between India and the West became finalized when Great Britain ruled them for a hundred years.
For a long time I've tried to understand what is gnosticism and handled it poorly because all the explanations I've read were too complicated and vague. Your video is full and eye opening, thank you for such an amazing work!
Sabbath is no longer for us to keep, otherwise we would ruin the 6th commandments, which says: DO NOT KILL! Matthew 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: it is the sabbath or the 6th commandment. Cant have both. Souls, know and understand the bible as we all should: 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. The 2 most important commandments for us to keep TODAY are: Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Matthew 22:39 “And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.”
Your videos have been a big factor in me realizing how passionate I am about religious anthropology, and now its something I'm looking into for my major!
I used to help out at a local funeral home after I got out of the military and I went to an Egyptian Gnostic funeral service and at first I was really aware that I was the only white person, but they offered me food, took my phone number, talked to me after the service, wanted me to attend their church, and were overall the nicest human beings I've met to this day. While I'm a Christian and didn't end up attending, their kindness has lasted in my heart ever since. Mad respect for explaining their religion better than any other video I've found! Human cultures and religions are so interesting to learn about, especially hidden gems like gnosticism!
Modern Gnostics in Egypt? Are you sure you aren't confusing gnostics with the coptics or Copts (they are the biggest Christian group in Egypt and are largely brown)?
@@diansc7322 yeah, they were Johannites or something like that, they weren't Coptics. Johannites have a few churches in the Northeastern United States and at the church I did the service at, they were all Egyptian, however I believe one man was Libyan. I guess North Africa largely being Islamic maybe led to an increase in emigration for Christian communities but I'm also just a dude with very little understanding of the religious goings-on in North Africa so take what I say with a grain of salt 🤣
@@definitelynotfbi119 interesting, I haven't heard of this group before of of christians in Egypt besides the mainstream sects (orthodoxies, Catholics and protestants), maybe I should look on them
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;
Although I’m atheist, this interpretation of Christianity makes a lot more sense to me generally than orthodoxy. There’s something about the difference between the God of the Old and New Testament and the explanation they give that makes more sense to me
Atheism requires just as much belief as Christianity does. Try agnosticism, admit that you don’t know the truth. Then once you have done that, the truth will come to you and you will realize the power of your own words. (Gnostic: knowledge, agnostic: without knowledge) being an atheist prevents you from seeing the truth of Christ.
@@RG-gd4gr I call myself atheist because I live as though there is no god but I am also agnostic. I have no clue what a greater power is or even could be
@@tpbenze5032 Knock and He will answer. Open your mind and heart to the possibility of Jesus Christ. I was an atheist for years until I did just that. He proved His existence to me within the year
@@tpbenze5032You’re already a lot closer than you care to think. You ain’t gotta call it anything, it’s subtle and directly in front of you 24/7, forgoing verbal thoughts for sensory ones helped me detect the weird synchronization of it.
Remember: if you are going to be calling gnosticism “heretical” in this comment thread, you better be catholic. Any protestant trying to claim gnosticism as heretical does not realize the hypocrisy of what they say
How so? The Catholics claim they were the first church founded by "St. Peter," but Catholicism was an invention 3-4 centuries after Christ. Peter would be the one flipping over tables if he saw any church praying to Mary.
These comments seem to take us to the old back and forth, tit for tat, I’m right, you’re wrong. Can we love God and each other, regardless of our personal opinions? I believe Jesus is the son of God. You might believe something different.
Thank you for being so positive but also intellectually responsible. Definitely a like and subscribe! I wish conversations like these were more mainstream. Not to claim someone as right or wrong, but to truly see history and how it effects every era. Well done!
He was actually very irresponsible by claiming a consensus when there is not one in order to present his view as the only viable one on early christian history.
@@nisibonum7634 his consensus is his own conclusion. It does not stand as a finality. I didn't even see it that way. Like I said. I like how he tried to site his sources, named the era, and did HIS best to explain what he's researched. Doesn't have to be perfect. That's why I said I respect the effort. Please tell me your response though (not being sarcastic at all), like what sources should be checked out or read to dispute his?
@@theDAVIScomplex No that's fine, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or mean in my decent either! What I mean specifically is at 28:00 he states that the idea there was 1 church and people broke away in heresies has long been abandoned by scholars. This is simply not true, plenty of biblical and historical scholars still hold this view. He is eather gate keeping scholar to not include these experts, and doing so without being transparent of such, or simple lyings. In both cases he is presenting his view as a consensus in a deceptive manor.
@@nisibonum7634 I think most scholars who maintain that position are not only scholars of religion, but scholars who are religious and want to maintain that narrative because it suits there interests, in other words, they are compromised. In every video on the history of religion, there are going to be people belonging to some mainstream religion saying "No this guy is wrong because actually, my religion invented everything and only hack scholars disagree." Not all scholars are equal, not everyone gets a say. That said, I'm not an expert on the subject and there may very well be actual talented scholars and experts that are *not* partial in the matter, but if so, you should state a few of their names and their points so as to start a discussion rather than just say "Nuh uh not true, nope."
Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!
Really well done. He's got just the right touch ... clear, concise, nuanced but not pedantic ... both respectful and skeptical at the same time. Just signed up for Filip's patreon.
I've seen multiple comments from seemingly devout Christians, complaining about the thumbnail image of Judas kissing Jesus... as the gospels LITERALLY state. 🙃
@@catalyst539 The picture was photoshopped to appear as if they are kissing on the lips. Learn your Bible Paul and then act as if you know what you're talking about...
Thanks. This is good work. I personally take "gnosis" to mean what we experience as a result of what we call Meditation. You reach a certain point in meditation when you know things, but it is not "data" type knowledge. And, most people that perform the practice can understand each other, yet it eludes formal language.
True understanding implies information being transferred losslessly without any added noise. It simply doesn't occur in objective reality to any degree of true knowledge. The only information that can be understood is the fact that the universe exists and you are a viewpoint of it. Almost everything else is only made up categories made up by humans agreeing on certain logical axioms. Nirvana like experiences reflect on that one fact and the difference between objective reality and subjective reality. All else is inferred subjectively by the individual by experiencing existence itself and knowing it's an illusion greater than the ego and the one truth tells us we're the universe more than we are ourselves.
Man just ran across this video and turns out I’m gnostic. I don’t believe in most Christian doctrine and never have had much faith in the religious system but I believe in the teachings of Christ and I believe his message was about finding god in yourself. Not in the church. I never knew what I believed had a name. I thought I was heretic and that was that lol. This is great!!!
One of the most interesting videos you've done so far! Extremely interesting to see how the different perspective on Christianity have come and gone throughout history. Thank you for your hard work!
Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!
@@davido3026 in Reality Freemasons are Orthodox Christians, who hijacked the movement, because they rejected Mandaenism and Manichaeism, the are not actual Gnostics.
I have always wanted to learn about the lost scriptures that were found and why the catholic church rejected them. Thank you for clarifying a lot of questions that I had! Great video! Great job!
Rome didn't want to accept Islam because of the strict prohibitions against paganism and alcohol whereas Christianity was easily molded by the Vatican to cater to the Europeans who could not let go of their traditions. Even the Christian-Roman image of God is eerily similar to the depictions of their original top deity, Zeus.
@@phillipholland6795 I'm no linguistics expert, bit I know that Deus isn't just Greco-Roman. It is derived from the Proto-Indo-European language for the Sky Father, Dyeus Phater. I'm not sure you could use that to say they couldn't let go of older pagan gods. That being said it is quite possible that Constantine syncretized the Christain god with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus.
@@jonathanshepherd5515 You will find no argument about that. However, Constantine himself worshipped Sol Invictus and received some kind of "revelation" from the sun (according to him, apparently) which influenced his conversion to Christianity somehow. Let's keep in mind the fertility worship of rabbits and eggs, the fertility goddess Ishtar from Babylon (and several coastal mediterranean pagan religions) which all got incorporated into Easter. Or the ten day Winter Solstice celebration called Saturnalia, which showed appreciation for the end of the sun's cycle, the shortest day of the year, and end of the dreaded winter that ancient Europeans dealt with year to year for centuries. It was a holiday of drunken cheer and debauchery, and gift exchanging too. Santa Klaus is a later Germanic/Nordic addition, draped in his hellish red fur. Krampus also originates from that region. Fire worship (Yule logs), Evergreen and mistletoe worship (because they survive freezing weather), and ancient pagans in Northern Europe always worshipped reindeers (and bears). Syricans never had any experience with elves, reindeers, yule logs and mistletoes, painted eggs, or trick or treat practices. They never dressed up as demons parading through the the town asking for candy. It appears many of these traditions survived in SOME form through modern Christianity. I wonder who's responsible for that. My guess would be some kind of money making machine, which was highly organized and exclusive, and would probably need to have a good grip on the people (having some kind of claim over Rome perhaps? the largest and most prominent empire of the time, which was at it's peak and in a period of peace and stability, and were already starting to experience an influx of Germanic people by the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD). Just a thought.
Having come from eastern esoteric tradition and simultaneously being well versed in many other traditions except the Semitic ones and so only having a rudimentary grasp of the Gnosis and Kabbalah and understanding them through the inner vision rather than in conceptual or scholarly fashion I appreciate your efforts to summarize and describe various traditions in a non-biased way so I can relate to the conceptual side of things. That's sort of rare, it requires some serious philosophical extensity and depth.
@@Thewonderingminds You may have commented on a different comment than intended, since I didn't talk about history of sandwiches. But in case you have intentionally replied on my comment, please do expand a bit on it, cause I totally fail to follow what are you up to with these sandwiches.
@@DanielJackson2010 Experientially I'm stating that it's totally futile attempting here to explain with a few words or statements that which is passed on and transferred with immediate interaction of questioning.
Gnosticism does NOT MEAN "if you seek God look inward"like the other comment states. By definition it means "seeking knowledge". No religion or religious ideas are/were implied in the word.
they are still pagans dressed up in window dressing as Christians, They were a pain in the ass to the apostles when they were alive and continued to be so after the last died, around 90 AD. and continued their nonsense with the Antiochian church and others for quite awhile.
gnosticism is authentic only if it's fundamentally antisemitic. any type of philosemitic pseudo-gnosticism arguing for an "outward knowledge-seeking" kinda" pursuit is j3wisch, hence instantaneously false, since they are merely material npc's with no free will.
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
That was a very short 40 minutes! Once again, thank you for this video. I had been told the Gnostics and gnosticism was _wrong!_ but not how or why. I had a friend who tried to convince me that the world was made by the devil, and the God I worshipped was, in reality, the devil, and she was so passionate and utterly convinced of her beliefs that it made discussion impossible (yes, well, I may have been a tad ultra-convinced of my beliefs too!). This video explains what I think my (now ex-) friend was trying to put across. I can see the logic/train of thought in the Gnostics' creation myth, and having Jesus sent from the Source, who is not the same being as the Creator, certainly explains the huge difference in character between the Old and New Testament depictions of God. Now I am an older person, and exploring religions, faiths and philosophies, I realise what a very difficult task it is to teach children about what you/they "should"/the society around you believe/s. Over-simplification of sometimes very difficult concepts, coupled with the human trait of being most comfortable with that which we were taught at our parents' knee, can lead to closed minds, intolerance and confusion. I'm so glad you are sharing your knowledge in an unbiased way and that I found your channel 🙏💐🙏.
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Henry's early insight feels like an epiphany. The oral traditions and, eventually, early scriptures did not have instructions; people were free to believe, interpret and choose the gospels as they deemed fit which would spur an overload of different, clashing ideologies.... It makes so much more sense now why there was such a violent outlash at heretics. Not because they challenged the status quo, but because they were direct threats to BE the status quo. Or, in other words, how the modern Catholic Christianity is, quite literally, theology as seen by the victors. The Sethians themselves, their origin story is absolutely trippy - some Azathoth level of weirdness really - but the explanation of the material world is WAY more sensical. It explains why the Old Testament God is so cruel, why our world is so imperfect and full of pain if God is so good, etc. I really liked it. Besides, having heard about the Book of Judas before, things become even clearer. The apostles worship Yaldabaoth, not the Unknown God.... Except Judas. Judas has the gnosis. It's awing. Jesus is not much different from the serpent, really. And I can DEFINITELY see why they were so violently fought - their views violently depart from a large portion of the Christian mythos. Absolutely amazing video.
wow! this is profound, i am an orthodox priest and you have given a very important information, the variety christian groups and the meaning of heresy. the meaning of Gnostics to. Thanx
As a priest your not tough any of this. All you get is a thousand years of propaganda that has not only covered up but destroyed and killed all the early "Christians" that disagreed with the ones in power.
Are you Orthodox or Protestant? It says Kenyan Methodist Church on your YT profile header. If you are Methodist then you are a Prot. The 3 sects of Christianity are Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant
@@-_-president-_-richardson-9705 good one, there is need for understanding the two schools, where they collided at and the failure of managing these interesting faith traditions for the glory of God and path ways by which humans can understand the will of God. Peace is attainable in differences of opinion and as well as in agreed difference and so on. There has been peace which can be worked towards agreed disagreement in out time. 👍
Its finally cool to be a nerd! If it was 20 years ago my ability to recite all 150 pokemon would have made me king. Nerd fights made me lol have a like
Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
@@AB-sw4kb Saying which made-up fiction is the best is the definition of a nerd fight. It's the equivalent of the Superman vs. Batman debate. Neither one is real, but everyone acts like Superman won the fight. That's why we're lost.
I've been binging your channel for a couple days now, and I love your content. You should do a video/videos about Kabbalah, it would be really interesting to listen to you break down the Zohar.
Hands down the best breakdown of Christian Gnosticism I’ve come across yet. Well done Let’s Talk Religion and Religion For Breakfast! Keep up the great work.
Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
I would argue that the Marcians should be included as a gnostic group, but overall I see why you and many other scholars don't include them, and this was a really great video, especially considering how exotified gnostic beliefs are in our culture.
Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
The definition of Gnosis you mentioned that references a kind of spiritual knowledge is similar to the Sanskrit word “gnan” or “gyan” or “jñan.” Makes me wonder if there’s a shared origin. I’ve also been delving more into Bernardo Kastrup’s views, which seems to accommodate parts of the Gnostic worldview you described. Nice work with this whole channel!
My understanding of my spirit and my relationship to the divine has come from contemplation of the gospels and other spiritual works. I consider myself a gnostic for this reason.
Finding all the early writings of Christians was such a fortunate thing. It’s fascinating and way more interesting than the ways we see the religion today.
"All"... ? ... ? ... ? Many writings were hidden, but few have survived. What books are hidden in the Vatican library ? How many other finds are out there ? The entire vast Library of Alexandria was burnt to the ground. All teachers who lived and taught there were tortured and killed... to show example lest anyone continue teaching. Jesus promised the Holy Spirit to guide those who followed him, and I believe that promise. The Holy Spirit guides and teaches from within the heart and mind even until this time 2000 years later. Gnosticism might be said to be the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Wow. This is the best (ie. the clearest and easiest to understand) explanation of Gnosticism that have encountered. I really feel like I understand the concept much more clearly than I did previously.
I have previously made an overview of Gnosticism, however, it did nt seem as intricate as this. very intriguing. there are so many puzzles to understand the reason and purpose of our creation. good work, and God save us all bro.
I know these types of videos always note the Nag Hammadi find (which is the major find in the field, no doubt about it), but let's not forget quite a few "gnostic" texts were discovered beforehand in the the Codex Brucianus, the Askew Codex and the Akhmim Codex. Those seem to get over looked.
I read the gnostic texts as a teenager. We used to get a monthly magazine in the 70's called Watchtower. I hated the Old Testament at school but loved the New Testament. I wish the early churches hadn't burnt so much ancient text.
Watchtower was and still is a Jehovah's Witness publication, which has been controversial to say the least, and like any publication should be read keeping critical thinking everpresent. I will refrain from adding my own opinions on it here.
Having been brought up as Christian was very exposed to the kingdom hall for some of childhood and young adulthood into my 30s. I can state facts of the practices of jehovah witness and the kingdom hall that is not at all what one would think is Christian behavior. I have studied deeply in that religion and I well say there sect of belief. Although they are knowledgeable on pagan holidays and names but yet they are pagan in other ways
Always a fascinating subject. I'm intrigued by The Cathars. Some of the best stuff I've read on the subject of Gnosticism are the books "The Jesus Mysteries" and "Jesus and The Lost Goddess," by Tim Freke and Peter Gandy, very different takes on the origins of what we now call "Orthodox Christianity!"
I watched this last night on the Roman Empire creating the Christ. It is very specific and supposedly completely historical from an archeological and biblical perspective comparing the two. anyway I thought it was very well done. m.ruclips.net/video/zmEScIUcvz0/видео.html
You did an amazing job explaining the basic points of this in a really coherent way, very complicated ideas, but you clarified them so nicely. Great job’
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Psalm 133 A song of ascents. Of David. 1 How good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity! 2 It is like precious oil poured on the head, running down on the beard, running down on Aaron’s beard, down on the collar of his robe. 3 It is as if the dew of Hermon were falling on Mount Zion. For there the Lord bestows his blessing, even life forevermore.
Thia is one of my favorite channels on RUclips I have just subscribed to Richard's channel , also. With the deepest appreciation and admiration for your wisdom .❤🙏🎶🕊
Loved this! I only just found out about Gnosticism and it answers so many questions I’ve had for a long, long time. Could you please make additional videos about Gnosticism, like what exactly their teachings were, and particularly more on the Aeons and what they are, what they mean, and Sophia’s role/meaning/etc. …. And how all this applies to the idea of multiple dimensions, or even other planets with intelligent life, etc.??? I am so thirsty for more info on what the Gnostic teachings are but it is soooooooo difficult to find quality videos explaining it, let alone videos about it in any meaningful sense. Thanks for creating this great material!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤗👏🏻🙌🏻🙏🏼😇
How about reading and researching the internet and books? Videos can be very pretty and easy to watch but are limited when investigating on an intellectual level
For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 2 Timothy Chapter 4. That's you. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven, is at hand!
Again I thank you so much Brother. Your research and explanations are extremely beneficial and helpful to me as confirmation of what I've been getting intuitively. Namaste
I realized I was gnostic recently, was quite an epiphany when I read the “ guidelines “ to the belief and realized how much everything I feel lined up .
Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!
Every Christian pastor will say don't read anything but the books of the Bible. I've asked about gnosticism, apocrypha, and even kaballah and got yelled at and lectured every time. Bothers me really bad I'm just curious and I know God exists because of signs. He shows you through synchronicity and some things that transcend explanation. It's almost like you have to experience it to see it, that's why so many people rebel against it, they're blinded by ignorance. There's something more to this world then the usual day to day.
I had to soften my heart immensely, really listen closely to my thoughts and my surroundings simultaneously, It’s so subtle, but it’s really there. - A previously aggressive atheist.
I would love to see a broader comparison of the philosophical underpinnings of Gnosticism with Vedanta, particularly Advaita Vedanta as exemplified in the teachings of Adi Shankaracharya.
Devas in Hinduism are considered to be Fateweaving Archons in Christian Gnosticism, in fact Manichaeism has equation of the spawns of fallen rebellious Archons to be among them being devas, which also equated to Zoroastrian daevas with very demonising of Vedic/Rigvedic deities alongside Buddhism which sees Hindu devas to incapable to deliver sentient beings out of suffering/Dukkha Vedanta/Advaita Vedanta Theology worships Atman as "eternal soul" which is fallen under the categories of "Psychics" and "hylics" in Valentinian School of Gnostic Christianity
here we go jo the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It is amazing what ideas people over the centuries have come up with. I wonder how these ideas came to them. Perhaps there is a common stream of knowledge accessible to some but not perfectly understandable so the stories vary. Who knows.
Universe is more complex than we'd like to think. Just like we used to think the concept of oxygen or atoms was ridiculous........so too there are many levels of experience available to us in the ethers. But if we put it all in words we come up with a myriad of interpretations........because they haven't been mapped. All religions are trying to map them in some way.........as is all human knowledge.
I think I'll have to watch this a couple of times to take it all in, once again I commend u bringing this subject to the masses in a way that respectful & concise without being analytical it's a subject I find interesting although highly complex as at 1st the only thing I believed about these books was where they were found
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I had to learn about gnosis in my school teaching and society class! Have to learn the roots of knowledge before learning to teach. It was super interesting
Just stumbled upon this, literally. I have always wondered why the god of our bible was so quick to change from benevolent to absolute wrath at the Israelites and if it hadn't been for Moses' interventions he would have totally destroyed them on several occasions. Also why he played with the pharao like a cat with a mouse, 'hardening his heart' instead of just leading the people out of Egypt and standing between them and their pursuers. It seemed like a lot of grandstanding to me.
It's because the God of the old testament is not the Father of Jesus !! You were right in thinking that. I thought the same. We have to rightly divide the word. Look at the channel good god. He has hundreds of videos on this and way more.
i also the same suspision as i read the exodus in ancient greek ( i wish i could read it at the original).the same with gen esis. god on exodus acts more like an radioactive extraterestial with many powers and a ufo to ride.
@@tboys92011 "god" of the OT is technically a celestial older brother of Jesus (or Christ), as Aeon Sophia being the 'mother' to both Demiurge and Christ, both are sprung into The Cosmos with Demiurge resembling both Ariel (Patron Angel of Israel) and Satan (along with The Devil) conflated into one ambiguous being
Wow, that was a truly valuable material you provided! Thank you. Also stay strong. Lots of strength is needed with all the immature comments floating around ☠️
I sort of had an epiphany…I never realized how the early Bishops’, Cardinals’ Popes’ robes look remarkably similar to the chief priests and Pharisees. Same job, different company…
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I’ve heard of Gnosticism before but had so much trouble wrapping my mind around the beliefs. Thank you for this unbiased, academic explanation that was backed up with sources!
This is terrific. Exactly shows how power disempowers, and how fear sells and makes money. What a wank humanity has accepted as real. I hope enough people wake up to use means to overcome the mental trauma this has put humanity through.
i remember hearing a story when Jesús walking into a room where the apostles were praying, Jesús was laughing and told them they were praying to the wrong god, that they did not know, sounds like he was alluding to Yaldabaoth , this documentary is INCREDIBLE thank you so much for the hard work and research
Ephesians 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
This was informative. Their ontology is way too convoluted for my little head, but still very interesting. Other sources are so biased against the Gnostics. Nice to get the straight dope =)
Thank you for this video. I have been piecing things together for awhile but this explains it all. I feel like things have finally clicked for me. May God bless you. 🙏❤️
why is it when read the bible "something is missing" and then read gnostic "ah there it is" and at same time if read only the gnostic text "something is missing"...... well the orthadox fills it, despite being "incompatable" [note that the pike document which predicted ww1 and ww2 (passed) sied WW3 will in part be triggered by tricking athest and christains to kill eachother] - all are just "a side of the SAME coin"
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He's really bias in favour of gnostics for some reason! He is presenting ideas as facts, and imo, twisting reality into his narrative. Dismissing other Christian writers of the time as liars and deceivers is strange.
@@LJ7000 who is doing that? I’ve never seen either of those things happen on this channel or on Let’s Talk Religion. I think you’re taking dispassionate historical analysis as some form of polemic. I would examine why you think this if I were you.
This intro is great! I'm used to seeing academic discussions online about Gnosticism assuming the theory that Gnostics didn't really exist and we need to drop the category altogether. It's good to finally see Brakke's work given the attention it deserves and presented to a popular audience!
I take it that you don't follow Turner's theory that the Sethians eventually wandered away from Christianity, becoming more Platonic in the process?
It finally happened!!!
When you say that "religions are internally diverse", there are members of religious groups that will disagree with that.
Many Orthodox Jews in Israel don't consider Reform Judaism to be a legitimate form of Judaism.
And many Jews don't consider people that blend Christianity with Judaism religiously Jewish.
As a Buddhist, I find Christian gnosticism quite similar with our beliefs to some degre. This is really interesting.
The similarity is knowledge
Gnosticism emerged from Buddhism :-)
@@janhavelka5081 so true!
@@janhavelka5081 Confucius is better and wiser, than any false prophet you see whining on television for big bucks.
@@janhavelka5081gnocism came from the early Christians who were murdered by Paul formerly Saul along with Stephen.
Man, Japanese creators really loved Christian mysticism in 90-s. Xenogears (Big one), Final Fantasy 7, Neon Genesis Evangelion...
They used to admire western civilisation before we fell into self destruction and wokism
@@sebozz2046 you mean until it was only about the distruction of others, as it has been since the begining of western civilization?
I love seeing this interaction between East and West in honesty. One of my other favorite examples is the West Östlicher Divan by Faust, inspired by the Persian poet Hafez.
@@ImperatorGrausam
"And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you [might] turn, there is the Face of Allah. Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing." Surah Al Baqarah Verse 115
Other big boys like Megami Tensei series and Eden!. The 80s and 90s Japanese pop culture seems to have some sort of fascination with Gnosticism?
I read the entire old testament in high school and thought to myself "This doesn't make sense. How can this truly be the God that everyone talks about". Since then, I've read the Kybalion and most of the corpus hermeticum looking for answers, but after finding this video, things are actually starting to make sense. I've ordered a translation of the nag hammadi yesterday and can't wait to learn more. I feel like a huge hole is starting to get filled and my questions are finally starting to get answered. Thank you for making this video, and I thank the all for taking me down this amazing journey.
Humans can’t tell you about God
@@skrillawarlock Neither can god apparently.
@@skrillawarlock So then you think that Jesus wasn't human?
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@@divestedhappyblackwoman3465 The force of living and what constitutes it is self-evident.
God wouldn't need to tell anyone nor would be obligated to.
I'm an Agnostic btw.
Gnostics: Sophia, can we ascend to the Pleroma to see God?
Sophia: You already have a god in your world
God in our world: *Yaldabaoth*
The communication from God our creator, and our creation. Demiurge. Jesus/Lucifer
In a way this is akin to the Vedic notion of Maya; it's not that all is illusion, it's that our perception(s) are illusory due to ignorance. The One True Reality or God *is* here and now because there is only God in Reality.
@@333STONE Wrong.
@@profile_01 I wonder if the Wachowski's are aware of Gnosticism? This all seems prime for a twist in a Matrix movie.
21st century gnostic teaching, through memes.
I have often heard the term 'Gnostic' thrown around in my adult life, and having been raised Christian, the incredibly little I thought I knew seemed too weird to be understood. Enter a band called Meshuggah, and one of my favourite songs by them is called 'Demiurge'. After hundreds of listens, I recently thought to do a bit of an exploration of what it might be referring to. I'm only sad that I didn't do it sooner. My mind is absolutely blown. Thank you for such coherent content for a true novice like myself to perhaps just begin to try and understand all of this. Truly excellent starting point.
True hermeticism. They are kinda glass half full while gnostics are glass half empty. Not saying it’s bad, I just enjoy learning
There is a sect in Christianity call Gnostic Christianity :)
@@wisdomoftheages8026 it seems that the hermetic, gnostics, and alchemists each claim to be the progenitor of the other. If you believe jung's interpretation alchemy originated in china then traveled throughout the world copulated with other cultures and back and led to hermeticism as well as what is said here then there are the hermetists who claim all occultism stems from them but are only half true but perhaps I don't know the proper hermetic texts to read. I keep hearing a lot of them are corrupted
All hail the mighty Meshuggah 🤘
meshuggah is incredible
for everyone scrolling and listening to the video, go read forbidden manifestation by zara blackthorn. then come back to thank me
that book turned everything around for me
finished reading it a few days ago. you can see why it was censored by just reading the first chapter. this industry is truly scary
read it a few days ago, its great
No thank you
is there a free one?
The Sethian breakdown of reality is SO similar to Hindu Vedanta. Even assigning the male gender to characterize the "Ultimate Oneness" and the female gender to "the Ultimate Original Thought", which in Sanskrit is called Brahman, or Purusha (male) and Prakriti (female), or God and Goddess. It is all within the Ultimate One and never (really) separate.
I'm so grateful you took the time to teach us this... thank you. It's the best overview of Gnosticism I've ever seen so far.😍
Seth=Annointing
Bad comparison, the Vedic deities will be relegated as divinities sprung from The Abyss much of how Greco-Roman deities and Hindu Pantheon are often attributed by early Hindus as born from the bowels of Abyss or the primordial waters of Tehom, whereas Sethian texts akin to "On The Origin of The World" considers these Pagan worship of Primordial Abyss/Tehom as false
Even the concept of Brahman comes after centuries if not millennias of development, on top of Buddhist rivals of the pivotal battles between concept of Hindu eternal Atman/Jivas and Buddhist Anatman/Shunyata in India, some of The Sethians and General Valentinian Theology also considers the concept of Psyche/Self as belong to second category of Yaldabaoth/Demiurge/Craftsman's belonging, akin to how Christian and Jews are belonging to repentant Sabaoth and his Retinues (resembling of Eternal Buddha of Lotus Sutra in terms of achieving enlightenment by countless Kalpas before creation of The World after he found Prajna and achieve Enlightenment in remote metaphysical realms or as Adi Buddha with his consort White Tara, much like Sabaoth gained Sophia's own daughter "Zoe" for accompanying Sabaoth to helps his missions to gather the "Psychics" so they can saved and became "Pneumatics")
The Pneumatikois is considered to be superior to Psikhikoi/Psychics (belongings to Temples, Synagogues and Churches) and Hylics/Materialists (Pagans and Atheists, as even Platonists like Plotinus happens to criticise the Christian Sethians and Valentinians too), if anything the three categories resembles more of Islamic distinction of Mu'min/Believers, Ahl Kitabi/People of The Book and Kuffars/disbelievers/polytheists
Europeans and indians have Aryan origin. Thus we have huge similarities in religion and culture, more than we would like to admit.
Just compare Greek and early vedic gods.
@@ohamatchhams I disagree. The similarities are too obvious to deny. I wasn't talking about "original Hinduism". I specifically said "Vedanta", which includes a variety of post-Buddhist schools of deeper self-inquiry with the pursuit of an experiential understanding of "god", the "self", and "existence" and our relationship with "existence", along with "what's required to exit the cycle of samsara".
They have framed the much older ideas of gods and goddesses in this way to create a vocabulary for more esoteric ideas.
@@myfuture3453 So true! I am not a scholar but have spent thousands of hours studying and reading "Hindu" literature. Millions of hours still wouldn't make a dent in the subject.
But I was amazed at how familiar their stories are and how relatable the characters are too. It isn't so "exotic" or "unapproachable" as one would think. Our cultures are much closer linked than we are taught to believe.
The cultural "divorce" between India and the West became finalized when Great Britain ruled them for a hundred years.
For a long time I've tried to understand what is gnosticism and handled it poorly because all the explanations I've read were too complicated and vague. Your video is full and eye opening, thank you for such an amazing work!
Sabbath is no longer for us to keep, otherwise we would ruin the 6th commandments, which says: DO NOT KILL!
Matthew 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
it is the sabbath or the 6th commandment. Cant have both.
Souls, know and understand the bible as we all should:
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
The 2 most important commandments for us to keep TODAY are:
Matthew 22:37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:39
“And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.”
Great video as usual! Looking forward to future collabs.
Thank you for appearing in the video and for your expertise! And likewise! :)
nice
Its wonderfull you Both together
OMG
I love the content both of you guys create
This is amazing!
Ditto! Some of the best learning channels around
Your videos have been a big factor in me realizing how passionate I am about religious anthropology, and now its something I'm looking into for my major!
Congrats
I'm a little late buuuuuuut DO IIIIIT!
Best of luck in finding a job after 🙏
@@luizmatthew1019 education is not always about finding a job.
@@davidstone5595 If it isn't good luck paying rent
I used to help out at a local funeral home after I got out of the military and I went to an Egyptian Gnostic funeral service and at first I was really aware that I was the only white person, but they offered me food, took my phone number, talked to me after the service, wanted me to attend their church, and were overall the nicest human beings I've met to this day. While I'm a Christian and didn't end up attending, their kindness has lasted in my heart ever since. Mad respect for explaining their religion better than any other video I've found! Human cultures and religions are so interesting to learn about, especially hidden gems like gnosticism!
Modern Gnostics in Egypt? Are you sure you aren't confusing gnostics with the coptics or Copts (they are the biggest Christian group in Egypt and are largely brown)?
@@diansc7322 yeah, they were Johannites or something like that, they weren't Coptics. Johannites have a few churches in the Northeastern United States and at the church I did the service at, they were all Egyptian, however I believe one man was Libyan. I guess North Africa largely being Islamic maybe led to an increase in emigration for Christian communities but I'm also just a dude with very little understanding of the religious goings-on in North Africa so take what I say with a grain of salt 🤣
@@definitelynotfbi119 interesting, I haven't heard of this group before of of christians in Egypt besides the mainstream sects (orthodoxies, Catholics and protestants), maybe I should look on them
@@diansc7322 Gnostic christians were decimated by mainstream orthodox christianity; therefore, they had to go occult for survival.
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;
Although I’m atheist, this interpretation of Christianity makes a lot more sense to me generally than orthodoxy. There’s something about the difference between the God of the Old and New Testament and the explanation they give that makes more sense to me
Atheism requires just as much belief as Christianity does. Try agnosticism, admit that you don’t know the truth. Then once you have done that, the truth will come to you and you will realize the power of your own words. (Gnostic: knowledge, agnostic: without knowledge) being an atheist prevents you from seeing the truth of Christ.
@@RG-gd4gr I call myself atheist because I live as though there is no god but I am also agnostic. I have no clue what a greater power is or even could be
@@tpbenze5032 Knock and He will answer. Open your mind and heart to the possibility of Jesus Christ. I was an atheist for years until I did just that. He proved His existence to me within the year
@@tpbenze5032You’re already a lot closer than you care to think. You ain’t gotta call it anything, it’s subtle and directly in front of you 24/7, forgoing verbal thoughts for sensory ones helped me detect the weird synchronization of it.
@@RG-gd4grYou mean you allowed yourself to be deluded
Remember: if you are going to be calling gnosticism “heretical” in this comment thread, you better be catholic. Any protestant trying to claim gnosticism as heretical does not realize the hypocrisy of what they say
Based 😎
Let’s team up with the Prots for a bit to destroy Mormonism though
Really? You think believing the Old Testament god is evil is similarly heretical to Protestant beliefs?
@@Nei982heresy is heresy. Degrees of separation doesn't really change the brand.
How so? The Catholics claim they were the first church founded by "St. Peter," but Catholicism was an invention 3-4 centuries after Christ. Peter would be the one flipping over tables if he saw any church praying to Mary.
These comments seem to take us to the old back and forth, tit for tat, I’m right, you’re wrong. Can we love God and each other, regardless of our personal opinions? I believe Jesus is the son of God. You might believe something different.
Thank you for being so positive but also intellectually responsible. Definitely a like and subscribe! I wish conversations like these were more mainstream. Not to claim someone as right or wrong, but to truly see history and how it effects every era. Well done!
He was actually very irresponsible by claiming a consensus when there is not one in order to present his view as the only viable one on early christian history.
@@nisibonum7634 his consensus is his own conclusion. It does not stand as a finality. I didn't even see it that way. Like I said. I like how he tried to site his sources, named the era, and did HIS best to explain what he's researched. Doesn't have to be perfect. That's why I said I respect the effort.
Please tell me your response though (not being sarcastic at all), like what sources should be checked out or read to dispute his?
@@theDAVIScomplex No that's fine, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or mean in my decent either! What I mean specifically is at 28:00 he states that the idea there was 1 church and people broke away in heresies has long been abandoned by scholars. This is simply not true, plenty of biblical and historical scholars still hold this view. He is eather gate keeping scholar to not include these experts, and doing so without being transparent of such, or simple lyings. In both cases he is presenting his view as a consensus in a deceptive manor.
@@nisibonum7634 I think I see what you mean
@@nisibonum7634 I think most scholars who maintain that position are not only scholars of religion, but scholars who are religious and want to maintain that narrative because it suits there interests, in other words, they are compromised. In every video on the history of religion, there are going to be people belonging to some mainstream religion saying "No this guy is wrong because actually, my religion invented everything and only hack scholars disagree."
Not all scholars are equal, not everyone gets a say. That said, I'm not an expert on the subject and there may very well be actual talented scholars and experts that are *not* partial in the matter, but if so, you should state a few of their names and their points so as to start a discussion rather than just say "Nuh uh not true, nope."
The hard work and effort you put into this
Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!
Really well done. He's got just the right touch ... clear, concise, nuanced but not pedantic ... both respectful and skeptical at the same time. Just signed up for Filip's patreon.
I've seen multiple comments from seemingly devout Christians, complaining about the thumbnail image of Judas kissing Jesus... as the gospels LITERALLY state.
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It's an internet photoshop that doesn't exist on the walls of any church.
Yeah, I seriously doubt that THAT among all this garbage is what Christian’s have the largest issue with
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Even though it’s very much stated to be true?
Get your facts straight.
@@catalyst539 The picture was photoshopped to appear as if they are kissing on the lips. Learn your Bible Paul and then act as if you know what you're talking about...
@@universalconquest4447but the Bible says he did that!
I'm so glad you and Andrew collaborated. You two are among my favorite channels on the platform. Great content as always
Thanks. This is good work. I personally take "gnosis" to mean what we experience as a result of what we call Meditation. You reach a certain point in meditation when you know things, but it is not "data" type knowledge. And, most people that perform the practice can understand each other, yet it eludes formal language.
Gnosis is the spiritual insight gained from theoria. It's a specific part of Christian mysticism. Look up "Theosis" and "Quietism"
I would say “understanding” rather than “knowing”. Successfully applying understanding.
Innerstanding
As Jesus said - “you take away the key of knowledge because you did not enter with yourself. And those that were entering, you hindered”.
True understanding implies information being transferred losslessly without any added noise. It simply doesn't occur in objective reality to any degree of true knowledge. The only information that can be understood is the fact that the universe exists and you are a viewpoint of it. Almost everything else is only made up categories made up by humans agreeing on certain logical axioms.
Nirvana like experiences reflect on that one fact and the difference between objective reality and subjective reality. All else is inferred subjectively by the individual by experiencing existence itself and knowing it's an illusion greater than the ego and the one truth tells us we're the universe more than we are ourselves.
Man just ran across this video and turns out I’m gnostic. I don’t believe in most Christian doctrine and never have had much faith in the religious system but I believe in the teachings of Christ and I believe his message was about finding god in yourself. Not in the church. I never knew what I believed had a name. I thought I was heretic and that was that lol. This is great!!!
One of the most interesting videos you've done so far! Extremely interesting to see how the different perspective on Christianity have come and gone throughout history. Thank you for your hard work!
Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!
@@davido3026 I bet a lot of ignorant people call you crazy. Just know that educated people agree with you.
@@davido3026 in Reality Freemasons are Orthodox Christians, who hijacked the movement, because they rejected Mandaenism and Manichaeism, the are not actual Gnostics.
@@demonlord8398 aww nice man. Who are they?
@@ColossalPenisMcgee Who are who?
I have always wanted to learn about the lost scriptures that were found and why the catholic church rejected them. Thank you for clarifying a lot of questions that I had! Great video! Great job!
Rome didn't want to accept Islam because of the strict prohibitions against paganism and alcohol whereas Christianity was easily molded by the Vatican to cater to the Europeans who could not let go of their traditions. Even the Christian-Roman image of God is eerily similar to the depictions of their original top deity, Zeus.
@@phillipholland6795 my God please educate yourself lol
@@mariskamahi6335 Even the Neo-Latin languages like Portuguese and Spanish say Deus to mean God. It is you who needs to educate yourself.
@@phillipholland6795 I'm no linguistics expert, bit I know that Deus isn't just Greco-Roman. It is derived from the Proto-Indo-European language for the Sky Father, Dyeus Phater. I'm not sure you could use that to say they couldn't let go of older pagan gods.
That being said it is quite possible that Constantine syncretized the Christain god with the Roman sun god Sol Invictus.
@@jonathanshepherd5515 You will find no argument about that. However, Constantine himself worshipped Sol Invictus and received some kind of "revelation" from the sun (according to him, apparently) which influenced his conversion to Christianity somehow.
Let's keep in mind the fertility worship of rabbits and eggs, the fertility goddess Ishtar from Babylon (and several coastal mediterranean pagan religions)
which all got incorporated into Easter.
Or the ten day Winter Solstice celebration called Saturnalia, which showed appreciation for the end of the sun's cycle, the shortest day of the year, and end of the dreaded winter that ancient Europeans dealt with year to year for centuries. It was a holiday of drunken cheer and debauchery, and gift exchanging too.
Santa Klaus is a later Germanic/Nordic addition, draped in his hellish red fur. Krampus also originates from that region. Fire worship (Yule logs), Evergreen and mistletoe worship (because they survive freezing weather), and ancient pagans in Northern Europe always worshipped reindeers (and bears). Syricans never had any experience with elves, reindeers, yule logs and mistletoes, painted eggs, or trick or treat practices. They never dressed up as demons parading through the the town asking for candy.
It appears many of these traditions survived in SOME form through modern Christianity. I wonder who's responsible for that. My guess would be some kind of money making machine, which was highly organized and exclusive, and would probably need to have a good grip on the people (having some kind of claim over Rome perhaps? the largest and most prominent empire of the time, which was at it's peak and in a period of peace and stability, and were already starting to experience an influx of Germanic people by the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD). Just a thought.
Thank you for the lucid introduction to the "Gnostics" of early Christianity and their religious thoughts!
You are either missing the hidden agenda behind the entire message, or else in full agreement with it.
This may be my favorite episode yet. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
Interesting how this aligns with ideas of enlightenment in Hinduism and Buddhism and being conscious of the duality of things.
it’s because all those are mystical religions
Everyone should watch Michael Heiser’s 6 hour video about Gnosticism.
Having come from eastern esoteric tradition and simultaneously being well versed in many other traditions except the Semitic ones and so only having a rudimentary grasp of the Gnosis and Kabbalah and understanding them through the inner vision rather than in conceptual or scholarly fashion I appreciate your efforts to summarize and describe various traditions in a non-biased way so I can relate to the conceptual side of things. That's sort of rare, it requires some serious philosophical extensity and depth.
Irrelevant details,
Simply when you need to prepare a sandwich, learning the life history of the man who first made sandwiches is totally irrelevant.
@@Thewonderingminds You may have commented on a different comment than intended, since I didn't talk about history of sandwiches. But in case you have intentionally replied on my comment, please do expand a bit on it, cause I totally fail to follow what are you up to with these sandwiches.
@@DanielJackson2010 Experientially I'm stating that it's totally futile attempting here to explain with a few words or statements that which is passed on and transferred with immediate interaction of questioning.
Gnosticism does NOT MEAN "if you seek God look inward"like the other comment states.
By definition it means "seeking knowledge". No religion or religious ideas are/were implied in the word.
YES ! Because all religions want obedient SHEEP ! ! ! But our real destination is to become free spirits . . .
they are still pagans dressed up in window dressing as Christians, They were a pain in the ass to the apostles when they were alive and continued to be so after the last died, around 90 AD. and continued their nonsense with the Antiochian church and others for quite awhile.
gnosticism is authentic only if it's fundamentally antisemitic. any type of philosemitic pseudo-gnosticism arguing for an "outward knowledge-seeking" kinda" pursuit is j3wisch, hence instantaneously false, since they are merely material npc's with no free will.
@@wendigos_eat_people7177gnostics were right
I've been listening to this for a few minutes waiting on it to start before I realized it premieres in 14 hours 😶
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here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
That was a very short 40 minutes!
Once again, thank you for this video. I had been told the Gnostics and gnosticism was _wrong!_ but not how or why. I had a friend who tried to convince me that the world was made by the devil, and the God I worshipped was, in reality, the devil, and she was so passionate and utterly convinced of her beliefs that it made discussion impossible (yes, well, I may have been a tad ultra-convinced of my beliefs too!).
This video explains what I think my (now ex-) friend was trying to put across. I can see the logic/train of thought in the Gnostics' creation myth, and having Jesus sent from the Source, who is not the same being as the Creator, certainly explains the huge difference in character between the Old and New Testament depictions of God.
Now I am an older person, and exploring religions, faiths and philosophies, I realise what a very difficult task it is to teach children about what you/they "should"/the society around you believe/s. Over-simplification of sometimes very difficult concepts, coupled with the human trait of being most comfortable with that which we were taught at our parents' knee, can lead to closed minds, intolerance and confusion. I'm so glad you are sharing your knowledge in an unbiased way and that I found your channel 🙏💐🙏.
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
This is probably the best in-depth video on this topic on the whole platform. Thank you!
Henry's early insight feels like an epiphany. The oral traditions and, eventually, early scriptures did not have instructions; people were free to believe, interpret and choose the gospels as they deemed fit which would spur an overload of different, clashing ideologies.... It makes so much more sense now why there was such a violent outlash at heretics. Not because they challenged the status quo, but because they were direct threats to BE the status quo. Or, in other words, how the modern Catholic Christianity is, quite literally, theology as seen by the victors.
The Sethians themselves, their origin story is absolutely trippy - some Azathoth level of weirdness really - but the explanation of the material world is WAY more sensical. It explains why the Old Testament God is so cruel, why our world is so imperfect and full of pain if God is so good, etc. I really liked it.
Besides, having heard about the Book of Judas before, things become even clearer. The apostles worship Yaldabaoth, not the Unknown God.... Except Judas. Judas has the gnosis. It's awing. Jesus is not much different from the serpent, really. And I can DEFINITELY see why they were so violently fought - their views violently depart from a large portion of the Christian mythos.
Absolutely amazing video.
They called gnostics cannibals yet they said bread is the body of Christ and wine is the blood
V2tycan is gu1lty of what they falsely accused gn0stics about, c2nnib3lism, ch2yld s3cr7rif1ce
THAT always creeped me out. Ever since I was a tiny kid.
@@IamHumanWoman "Let us eat his body and drink his blood" they say
wow! this is profound, i am an orthodox priest and you have given a very important information, the variety christian groups and the meaning of heresy. the meaning of Gnostics to. Thanx
As a priest your not tough any of this. All you get is a thousand years of propaganda that has not only covered up but destroyed and killed all the early "Christians" that disagreed with the ones in power.
@@dugclrk thank you for the heads up
Are you Orthodox or Protestant?
It says Kenyan Methodist Church on your YT profile header. If you are Methodist then you are a Prot.
The 3 sects of Christianity are Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Protestant
So,do you think that peace can be achived between the gnostics and the orthodox?
@@-_-president-_-richardson-9705 good one, there is need for understanding the two schools, where they collided at and the failure of managing these interesting faith traditions for the glory of God and path ways by which humans can understand the will of God. Peace is attainable in differences of opinion and as well as in agreed difference and so on. There has been peace which can be worked towards agreed disagreement in out time. 👍
I’m working my way through the Nag Hammadi. Videos like this help give the reading context.
I have been looking for these teachings all my life...thank you for opening my eyes after my eye has been opened. 🙏
Amazing how nerd fights can affect people for millennia. Top notch job explaining a very complicated and loaded subject. I learned today! \o/
Its finally cool to be a nerd!
If it was 20 years ago my ability to recite all 150 pokemon would have made me king.
Nerd fights made me lol have a like
i see it more of a political fight cos i doubt these ppl are truly religious it's just them pushing their political agenda
Ephesians 9
(What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
Basic human reasoning and interaction with their environment is now called "nerd fighting." We are lost.
@@AB-sw4kb Saying which made-up fiction is the best is the definition of a nerd fight. It's the equivalent of the Superman vs. Batman debate. Neither one is real, but everyone acts like Superman won the fight. That's why we're lost.
I've been binging your channel for a couple days now, and I love your content. You should do a video/videos about Kabbalah, it would be really interesting to listen to you break down the Zohar.
look up his friend and colleague Dr. Justin Sledge at ESOTERICA another youtube channel, plenty of academic content on kabbalah there.
watch Gnostic Informant, lady Babylone on youtube. you can take greek language lessons from lady Babylone
Hands down the best breakdown of Christian Gnosticism I’ve come across yet. Well done Let’s Talk Religion and Religion For Breakfast! Keep up the great work.
Ephesians 9
(What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
I would argue that the Marcians should be included as a gnostic group, but overall I see why you and many other scholars don't include them, and this was a really great video, especially considering how exotified gnostic beliefs are in our culture.
Ephesians 9
(What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
The definition of Gnosis you mentioned that references a kind of spiritual knowledge is similar to the Sanskrit word “gnan” or “gyan” or “jñan.” Makes me wonder if there’s a shared origin. I’ve also been delving more into Bernardo Kastrup’s views, which seems to accommodate parts of the Gnostic worldview you described. Nice work with this whole channel!
Well, gnosis is knowledge in Ancient Greek. So I suppose they are related in a sense that both languages are indo-european.
Could gnan/gyan be related or the same as the Jhanas known from Buddhism?
@1dog915 no, that's another sanskrit word - dhyana. Could be related to ñanas in Buddhism, but I'm not sure.
What an amazing video, you have finally made the Gnostics make sense to me. Extremely intriguing. Thank you so, so much.
My understanding of my spirit and my relationship to the divine has come from contemplation of the gospels and other spiritual works. I consider myself a gnostic for this reason.
Didn't even realize 40 minutes had passed by, very well put together video !
Finding all the early writings of Christians was such a fortunate thing. It’s fascinating and way more interesting than the ways we see the religion today.
Try Catholicism my dude
That’s just American Protestantism
"All"... ? ... ? ... ?
Many writings were hidden,
but few have survived.
What books are hidden in the Vatican library ?
How many other finds are out there ?
The entire vast Library of Alexandria was burnt to the ground.
All teachers who lived and taught there were tortured and killed...
to show example lest anyone continue teaching.
Jesus promised the Holy Spirit to guide those who followed him, and I believe that promise.
The Holy Spirit guides and teaches from within the heart and mind even until this time 2000 years later.
Gnosticism might be said to be the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
this is so fascinating!! thanks for taking the time to properly set the stage, beautiful video
They were right about inconsistencies, but what amazing answers...
Wow. This is the best (ie. the clearest and easiest to understand) explanation of Gnosticism that have encountered. I really feel like I understand the concept much more clearly than I did previously.
I have previously made an overview of Gnosticism,
however, it did nt seem as intricate as this.
very intriguing.
there are so many puzzles to understand
the reason and purpose of our creation.
good work, and God save us all bro.
I know these types of videos always note the Nag Hammadi find (which is the major find in the field, no doubt about it), but let's not forget quite a few "gnostic" texts were discovered beforehand in the the Codex Brucianus, the Askew Codex and the Akhmim Codex. Those seem to get over looked.
I read the gnostic texts as a teenager. We used to get a monthly magazine in the 70's called Watchtower. I hated the Old Testament at school but loved the New Testament. I wish the early churches hadn't burnt so much ancient text.
Watchtower was and still is a Jehovah's Witness publication, which has been controversial to say the least, and like any publication should be read keeping critical thinking everpresent. I will refrain from adding my own opinions on it here.
Having been brought up as Christian was very exposed to the kingdom hall for some of childhood and young adulthood into my 30s.
I can state facts of the practices of jehovah witness and the kingdom hall that is not at all what one would think is Christian behavior. I have studied deeply in that religion and I well say there sect of belief. Although they are knowledgeable on pagan holidays and names but yet they are pagan in other ways
This was so well done. So much information, but all in a easy to understand and digestible way. Thanks.
Great presentation. Think about it, this is not just a youtube video, its gnosis being shared, imagined that being done 1000 years ago.
I'm doing the work of Seth!
Always a fascinating subject. I'm intrigued by The Cathars.
Some of the best stuff I've read on the subject of Gnosticism are the books "The Jesus Mysteries" and "Jesus and The Lost Goddess," by Tim Freke and Peter Gandy, very different takes on the origins of what we now call "Orthodox Christianity!"
I watched this last night on the Roman Empire creating the Christ. It is very specific and supposedly completely historical from an archeological and biblical perspective comparing the two. anyway I thought it was very well done.
m.ruclips.net/video/zmEScIUcvz0/видео.html
@@leroyjones6170 Thanks Leroy. I'll look forward to watching that. Ta for the link! 😉👍
The cathers believed in reincarnation- therefore they were annihilated by the Catholics because of this “dangerous” belief…
You did an amazing job explaining the basic points of this in a really coherent way, very complicated ideas, but you clarified them so nicely. Great job’
This video is so beautiful. I love listening to everything. It’s opening up my eyes to a whole different realm. Grateful here.🙏🙌
I'm so fascinated by Gnosticism. Excited to watch this. Yay🖤
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Psalm 133
A song of ascents. Of David.
1 How good and pleasant it is
when God’s people live together in unity!
2 It is like precious oil poured on the head,
running down on the beard,
running down on Aaron’s beard,
down on the collar of his robe.
3 It is as if the dew of Hermon
were falling on Mount Zion.
For there the Lord bestows his blessing,
even life forevermore.
"Archons, hidden rulers of the world" ---> great great book about Gnosticism. highly recommend it.
Thia is one of my favorite channels on RUclips
I have just subscribed to Richard's channel , also.
With the deepest appreciation and admiration for your wisdom .❤🙏🎶🕊
Loved this! I only just found out about Gnosticism and it answers so many questions I’ve had for a long, long time.
Could you please make additional videos about Gnosticism, like what exactly their teachings were, and particularly more on the Aeons and what they are, what they mean, and Sophia’s role/meaning/etc. …. And how all this applies to the idea of multiple dimensions, or even other planets with intelligent life, etc.??? I am so thirsty for more info on what the Gnostic teachings are but it is soooooooo difficult to find quality videos explaining it, let alone videos about it in any meaningful sense. Thanks for creating this great material!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤗👏🏻🙌🏻🙏🏼😇
How about reading and researching the internet and books? Videos can be very pretty and easy to watch but are limited when investigating on an intellectual level
@Mark Ulis it's about how the fairy tales are written, and who by and where from. Keep learning, fairyboy.... will we all get there somehow
Sophia = Mary Magdelene
@@felixdiaz420 could you explain this?
For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 2 Timothy Chapter 4. That's you. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven, is at hand!
Again I thank you so much
Brother. Your research and explanations are extremely beneficial and helpful to me as confirmation of what I've been getting intuitively. Namaste
I realized I was gnostic recently, was quite an epiphany when I read the “ guidelines “ to the belief and realized how much everything I feel lined up .
How do I find those guidelines?
@@ihavenoideawhatimdoinghere6285 just research it online and read into it
Whatever makes you sleep at night
@@yozora8848 Ah m'lady (tips fedora) science rules amiright
Gnosticism seems very narcissistic to me
Dude no matter the topic, your videos give me this sense of calmness, idk if it's the music in the background but I love your channel.
This is the greatest channel discovery I have had in a while. Awesome stuff man, keep it coming!
Gnosticism is represented tpday with a new name, "Freemasonry", "G" they recruit members from unitarians, rotary club. lions club, YMCA, boys scouts, etc. they rule the world, the UN their headquarters..... they are before everybody, but no one sees them!!!!
Every Christian pastor will say don't read anything but the books of the Bible. I've asked about gnosticism, apocrypha, and even kaballah and got yelled at and lectured every time. Bothers me really bad I'm just curious and I know God exists because of signs. He shows you through synchronicity and some things that transcend explanation. It's almost like you have to experience it to see it, that's why so many people rebel against it, they're blinded by ignorance. There's something more to this world then the usual day to day.
I had to soften my heart immensely, really listen closely to my thoughts and my surroundings simultaneously, It’s so subtle, but it’s really there. - A previously aggressive atheist.
He's got a point ruclips.net/video/NZc1gTiex2M/видео.htmlsi=HtPJzsfoKAG-Xmy-
uh idk what church you went to but if pastors are getting mad at you for trying to gain knowledge, join a different church 💀
just wanna say this is a great video, you explained it all very well :)
makes a lot more sense than current christianity
I would love to see a broader comparison of the philosophical underpinnings of Gnosticism with Vedanta, particularly Advaita Vedanta as exemplified in the teachings of Adi Shankaracharya.
Devas in Hinduism are considered to be Fateweaving Archons in Christian Gnosticism, in fact Manichaeism has equation of the spawns of fallen rebellious Archons to be among them being devas, which also equated to Zoroastrian daevas with very demonising of Vedic/Rigvedic deities alongside Buddhism which sees Hindu devas to incapable to deliver sentient beings out of suffering/Dukkha
Vedanta/Advaita Vedanta Theology worships Atman as "eternal soul" which is fallen under the categories of "Psychics" and "hylics" in Valentinian School of Gnostic Christianity
here we go jo the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It is amazing what ideas people over the centuries have come up with. I wonder how these ideas came to them. Perhaps there is a common stream of knowledge accessible to some but not perfectly understandable so the stories vary. Who knows.
Hallucinogenic mushrooms and plants
Universe is more complex than we'd like to think. Just like we used to think the concept of oxygen or atoms was ridiculous........so too there are many levels of experience available to us in the ethers. But if we put it all in words we come up with a myriad of interpretations........because they haven't been mapped. All religions are trying to map them in some way.........as is all human knowledge.
Great collab! That was interesting, thank you !
Anyone else find that this makes far more sense than the biblical cannons’ interpretation and “god” and why Jesus came?
I think I'll have to watch this a couple of times to take it all in, once again I commend u bringing this subject to the masses in a way that respectful & concise without being analytical it's a subject I find interesting although highly complex as at 1st the only thing I believed about these books was where they were found
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I had to learn about gnosis in my school teaching and society class! Have to learn the roots of knowledge before learning to teach. It was super interesting
Just stumbled upon this, literally. I have always wondered why the god of our bible was so quick to change from benevolent to absolute wrath at the Israelites and if it hadn't been for Moses' interventions he would have totally destroyed them on several occasions. Also why he played with the pharao like a cat with a mouse, 'hardening his heart' instead of just leading the people out of Egypt and standing between them and their pursuers. It seemed like a lot of grandstanding to me.
“God Gets Accused of Grandstanding! “ 😆
It's because the God of the old testament is not the Father of Jesus !! You were right in thinking that. I thought the same. We have to rightly divide the word. Look at the channel good god. He has hundreds of videos on this and way more.
i also the same suspision as i read the exodus in ancient greek ( i wish i could read it at the original).the same with gen esis. god on exodus acts more like an radioactive extraterestial with many powers and a ufo to ride.
@@tboys92011 that led me to search about gnosticism
@@tboys92011 "god" of the OT is technically a celestial older brother of Jesus (or Christ), as Aeon Sophia being the 'mother' to both Demiurge and Christ, both are sprung into The Cosmos with Demiurge resembling both Ariel (Patron Angel of Israel) and Satan (along with The Devil) conflated into one ambiguous being
Wow, that was a truly valuable material you provided! Thank you. Also stay strong. Lots of strength is needed with all the immature comments floating around ☠️
I sort of had an epiphany…I never realized how the early Bishops’, Cardinals’ Popes’ robes look remarkably similar to the chief priests and Pharisees. Same job, different company…
I'm so grateful for this knowledge and explenation you shared... it helps my journey a lot!
here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful ,
O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;..............................................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Informative as usual, still one of the best channels on RUclips.
Thats the most clear explanation I have ever heard of Gnosticism good job
Such a fantastic episode. So interesting, wow it’s complicated, really intriguing. Thanks, great job.
I love both your channel and Andrew's. So needed ones to spread real history!
Me:has a final tomorrow
Also me: hmm I need to watch this 40 minute video by let's talk religion
Thank you for this video and all the others. You explain things clearly, rationally and with respect.
Now THAT'S the crossover I was waiting for :)
Excellent video and explanation. Look forward to learning more from your channel.
Who gnows?
I’ve heard of Gnosticism before but had so much trouble wrapping my mind around the beliefs. Thank you for this unbiased, academic explanation that was backed up with sources!
Excellent video. Basically the Gnostics thought we are living in a Matrix, very interesting!
GREATEST CROSSOVER EVER!!! 😍😍
This is terrific. Exactly shows how power disempowers, and how fear sells and makes money. What a wank humanity has accepted as real. I hope enough people wake up to use means to overcome the mental trauma this has put humanity through.
I love when new lore helps spice up the og series
i remember hearing a story when Jesús walking into a room where the apostles were praying, Jesús was laughing and told them they were praying to the wrong god, that they did not know, sounds like he was alluding to Yaldabaoth , this documentary is INCREDIBLE thank you so much for the hard work and research
Sounds like a lot of 💩
Which god we have to pray
Source?
That story is from the gospel of Judas much after the Bible we know came to be. Completely non-canonical
@@edward_19 the gospel of judas comes from the same time period as all the other gospels
Top tier content. This is the kind of information that makes both hardcore orthodoxies and skeptics rethink everything they know about religion
Ephesians 9
(What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
Research The Shrud Of Turin proof of The Living and resurrected Christ, Let those who have eyes to see and ears to hear discern the eternal truth of Christ!!! Give no room to false doctrines of devils and satanic belief systems DO NOT BE FOOLED by WARLOCKS AND WITCHES !!!! Praise The Living Christ pray to download the Holy Spirit of YAHWEH, to accept and cleansed by the blood and covering of Christ, and to become one with The Heavenly Father : YAHWEH EL ELYON ELOHIM EL SHADDAI with Holy Ghost Baptism, seek deliverance renounce the kingdom of Satan and repent from all known and generational sin!!!! In the name of YESHUA HAMASHIACH ADONAI , THE HOLY ETERNAL CHRIST (The Anointed One)!!!
This was informative. Their ontology is way too convoluted for my little head, but still very interesting. Other sources are so biased against the Gnostics. Nice to get the straight dope =)
Thank you for this video. I have been piecing things together for awhile but this explains it all. I feel like things have finally clicked for me. May God bless you. 🙏❤️
Absolutely wonderful, concise explanation of Gnosticism and the Gnostics. Thank you.
What a wonderful overview of Gnostics. Thank you for this.
why is it when read the bible "something is missing" and then read gnostic "ah there it is" and at same time if read only the gnostic text "something is missing"...... well the orthadox fills it, despite being "incompatable" [note that the pike document which predicted ww1 and ww2 (passed) sied WW3 will in part be triggered by tricking athest and christains to kill eachother] - all are just "a side of the SAME coin"
Thank you for this great video of gnosticism, I've read hundred of pages now and still confused about them until I found thins masterpieces