The symbolism with ahabs gaslighting her crew, leading her to literally consume them is unreal. The way she talks about the whale and how it eats people as though she’s aware she’s doing the exact same thing is amazing, truly peak fiction.
For real. The symbolism, metaphors, analogies in this fight were insane. Ahab's silhouette assumes the form of an anatomical heart-- her shoulder looks like an aorta to me, with Queequeg, Starbuck, and Pip assuming the positions of the three first major arteries branching off the aorta. It is *insane*.
I mean... She most likely was aware, lets be honest. We have seen what she did to her loyal crew on the way to the heart, how she talks about "people not dying until she lets them" and all that... Hell, the fact she is like "with her faith broken, the pale claims Queequeg!" shows she understands how the whale actually works. I have no doubt she is fully aware of her actions
Ahab is an absolutely terrifying villain. Due to the fact that she well and truly is resolute and clear in her goals. Most of the Villains we've seen in the Pjmoon verse tend to either meltdown or distort in some sense when everything blows up in their face. Yet, Ahab just seems to become even more determined. She is scary because she genuinely believes in her goal. Shes gaslit even herself into believing in her own lies.
Yeah. So unabashedly full of conviction that she manifested E.G.O. Carmen didn't even get a chance with her, she just went straight to efflorescence. Honestly ahab distorting would have probably been a good thing.
ahab became so delusional in persuit of her own goals that she manifested an ego,which means that it was not a delusion at this point - she truly believed in what she was saying. so yea, you are right. very powerful antagonist
In the book, Ahab was driven insane by the fact that he was once defeated by the whale. Thinking about losing to some sort of fish lead him to the state where he could not sleep or be still for a minute. Killing the whale was not even an goal, it was the only way to be free of these obsessive thoughts. The only way to found his peace. So he literally gave up on ship's true mission (whale hunt) and went to a desperate sail with only aim to find and kill one singular fish in endless sea. That's what you really call bind obsession. So sad that there's no such thing in Canto V. I can only remember a scene where Ahab was sleeping with eyes wide open, but i really wanted to see deep analysis of his (her) insanity. Also, i miss that scene in a book, where during storm captain was sleeping sitting on a chair with hir eyes wide open, pointing into a map, marking the spots of recent seen whales. It both horrifying and magnificent. Truly a masterpiece of a book and a Canto. (and yeah, hadn't been writing english complex comments in a while, can do some grammar mistakes, forgive me for a god's sake)
@@clevrb1860my old man Bondrewd at least genuinely case about everyone under him even though his sense of “care” is very twisted but I would argue he’s a lot better than Ahab though that’s a low bar to compare to.
I love Ahabmael for the fact that we can see what drives Ahab herself. Ishmael as Ahab depends on her team, she is no slouch in combat herself, but comanding people is her forte. So, her orders must be absolute, she must stand taller than anyone else and she has to set an example -- by truly being the best of her team. That's why she goes crazy whenever her team succeds in killing things without her - her authority and absolute rule might be shaken, they might start realizing there are other options, so she has to prove herself even more -- or make others fail, so she can show what happens, when you don't follow her commands. Ishmael often strives for perfection and doesn't accept mediocrity. That's why she saw Ahab so highly once -- Ahab was an old lady with one leg, but she somehow was standing talller than anyone else, not a single flaw visible in her speech or stature. And it was only when Whale destroyed Pequod that she realized, that Ahab was just making others crawl, so she could be the one on top. I wonder if the idea of trumpling others so she could succeed made Ish quit her previous job.
i appreciate the loop but i think your thoughts and analysis in the description are really solid, i was first kind of mad that ahab survived but then i realized there was a ton of missed potential with her not just as a character, but the fact her ego is fueled by stealing others' ego and being so delusional she seems pretty much immune to distortion. the fact that it resembles the claws is a nice observation---my first thought was that gasharpoon looked a lot like phillip's half awakened ego.
@@Raiju2 she probably didn't even recognize Carmen was there, in her madness, honestly. she is so utterly deep in her conviction and deluded devotion to her goal that any internal strength she ends up drawing from couldn't possibly be from anything other than herself and the strings of fate, in her mind.
manifesting ego just needs you to be absolutely resolute in your beliefs, it doesnt exactly have to be Good beliefs though, like how dongrang distorted as he wanted to deny everything and ignore the past, then he realized he can instead Destroy the past and manifested ego to do so
@duckervert3633 I wouldnt consider that an "unheard achievement" for a few reasons. Like how we cant talk about how hard such a thing would be in general since we have no other examples Or how we have seen a similar thing happening but with distortions. But yeah I wouldnt say that she is that weak on her own, but she definetively needs others to inflate her ego (in both senses) to be at her fullest potential
@duckervert3633And yet, for another person who wholly manifested their own EGO, Dongbaek, we canonically had to use 7 sinners. Her EGO wasn't fueled off of others' either. Ahab may have been a captain whose job was to lead others, but she didn't respect her crew as anything other than tools for her to use, break, and discard. Just like the Whale, she consumes the individuality of anyone under her and spits them out as a form best-suited to serve her.
@@15stargamer98Not really a fiar comparison when we used 5 with Kromer, and distorted, abd 7 with Distorted Dongrang, yet 6 with Ricardo who utterly annihilates us without trying.
@@WiseViper39 If anything, what you're talking about makes this comparison even fairer because you're drawing more points of data to use and rough power levels. Ricardo's very specifically an enemy who is WAY out of our league, even if we ran 12 sinners against him. His base skills are rolling like... 12. Everything comes from his offense level.
@@ГордейШигонов If you've played the previous games you'd have seen what the arm of a Claw looks like, Ahab's Gas Harpoon looks similar to it especially due to the fact that she has 'vials' on it that are made of her crew members. The vials that a real Claw uses however, are serums from different Wings. Baral uses Serum K, W, and R which all come from their respective Wings
Imo they way Gasharpoon shows how claw arms work is that both are "powered up" by other people, but by different means. Gasharpoon is literally so, by absorving their E.G.O and getting different powers based on such, but with Claw arms they're only symbolically powered up by other people, as they use singularities for attacks, things that are built in the corpses of may people (that one flashback of the smoke war Roland had in LOR comes to mind). Is this too much of a crackhead theory or nah? It's 2 AM here where i live and i'm barely awake so it might sound like one
@@funninoriginal6054ego here is not ego equipment but the actual person's ego minds u. it symbolized the Pequod crew surrendered themselves fully to Ahab, not that they have awakened their E.G.O
Just finished reading the description and yeah, this is my experience too with looping songs. Always little nuances that you don't notice until you're trying to weld together what appears to be two perfectly even pieces of metal and realize they are not, in fact, even at all. Not even a little bit. Just wanted to say I hear your suffering and I appreciate the effort you went through to deliver this to us!
Thank you so much for uploading this! The final verse only hits as hard as it does when you hear the first one a few times! On a Project Moon note - anyone notice that Ahab's EGO resembles, at least a little bit, Baral's outfit in LoR?
I really appreciate those lil special edits, adding some extra spice the fights normally have. Don t get me wrong, milis songs are amazing just by themselfs, but when they are used like this... might be just me, but it makes them ooze with emotions and purpose plain files from game just lack
Thanks for posting this! This fight took me a solid hour, now I can listen to it without LCB Meursault rolling tails on Regret and getting one shot 30 minutes into the fight ♥
this rocks, i've been listening to this all finals week. between the thoughtful description and the insightful comments, this little space reminds me of old internet....
I experinced the final fight after the nerf, I am actually quite glad pj did the nerf as i think it makes it a better experince both from a gameplay and story perspective. The trio fight was already really hard for me(i didn't have a lot of good units and don't have time to build them) and making a fight even harder right after that would just be painful. From a story perspective, one person being eaiser then 3 realy says something about the depictable thing that Ahab has done, it weakens the overall strength the group had. This is another difference Ishmael had with her, Ishmael wasn't fighting alone. Ahab was fundementally left alone in the ending where she enters her hallucinatory state where she seeks her men, she seeks help from those who persued the same life goals as her(forced or not) Despite being overdone, i have always enjoyed the power of friendship, or collabration and the idea of companionship. Having a clear goal in mind doesnt mean neglecting the friends and memories made on the way.
after reading the description i just wanna say, i feel like the reason kali was so busted with ego against head officers wasnt because of some 1 in a billion luck but because she was one of the first examples of proper ego before the seed of light event, and not only that but she was probably especially empowered for the desire to protect her friends and coworkers so i think that was why she managed to kill them all so easily, i mean the playable red mist isnt even half as strong as the actual red mist we fight and especially not nearly as strong as red mist during that fight
@@HonkG.Womblatin Listen to the whole song. First it is "my compass was swallowed by the sea", in a kinda sorrowful way, and is what loops throughout most of the song. Then it is loudly "my compass is curiosity" when nearing the end.
@@HonkG.Womblatin It switches over at some point during either the final scene before that cutscene, or that cutscene itself, possibly when Ishmael declares her new compass. By the time Ishmael harpoon happens, the song is definitely proclaiming "My compass is curiosity", although the lyrics don't show up on screen the way the other ones did.
(Usage of now NC // Still rele material) E.G.O. can be pretty insane based on the wearer. However, there is an anomaly being the usage of Fused EGO. Fused EGO is only present within the now NC Wonderlab and Dongbaek. Dongbaeks usage of fused ego is not as outwardly present as WL, but there are still clear remnants of sunshower within Blooming (general design, etc.). Which now leads to the question of if fused ego is dependant on the ego gear used or the users personal ego, or a mix of the two. Personally I believe that depending on the gear strength, the personal ego can either fizzle into the suit (seen in WL) or the ego takes part of the suit and incorporates it (blooming). Now the issue is if a Colour grade fixer manifests a fused ALEPH gear ego (similar to gebura but a finished ego and not proto.) I'd believe they would probably have strength similar to prime kali? but thats excluding amps/etc.
it is not a fused ego as the other Pequod Crew members dont have control of their own ego to awaken their EGO equipment, and efflorensce EGO is just the general term to designate people who fully awakened their own EGO equipment, as Efflorensce literally mean fully matured.
Pretty sure Ahab has manifesting incomplete ego, kinda of like Philip in the library of ruina. Philip and Ahab look pretty similar with how the ego is fused into their bodies.
@@kaidouseishin4614 My only gripe with that is how Ahab has no characteristics in common with all other characters who have fully manifested EGO, but there may be something I'm not seeing.
man why is her ego easier than that of the pequod fight, legit it took me changing a whole squad to get the queequeeg starbuck and ahab, but the ego? took one try with K hong lu dying and then clutching with ardour corrosion nuking killing everyone including the boss, very cool
Old comment but to me it felt like something about the way she always relies on others. With her and with Ahab ID Ishmael it comes off that even if she's a very capable person and competent fighter her greatest power is her ability to lead others, so once she's chewed through them all and there's nothing left at the deepest depths of her delusions she's so much weaker even after having consumed them. I think it's really interesting. Her ego blinds her to one of the things that made her most exceptional and worthy of admiration. All that charisma and unable to find fulfillment in it.
The gasharpoon fight was to show how ahab is nothing by herself, even her ego, fueled by her crew. Was weak, and in the trio fight, she wasn't that difficult to take down either by herself. Only reason it being mildly difficult being queequeg being her shield, and starbuck being her weapon to wield.
Ah good. I'm not the only one who noticed GasHarpoon's arm EGo looking like that. I wonder if Effloresced just refers to it being an EGO or something else since that term is new (to the series. Obviously we have had other things with the term in Limbus). EGO seem to be similar to abnos/distortions in that they can do stuff that is similar to magic. I mean there was some interesting stuff with EGO at the end of Leviathan.
Efflorensce E.G.O is just the general term for people fully manifested their E.G.O. E.G.O, not to be confused with ego, are equipment manifested by the person's hardened purpose, signified the user have fully accepted themselves for whoever they've become, come to an understanding and accepting everything they represented. Efflorensce is quite literally means "Fully Bloomed"
@@kaidouseishin4614isn't the golden bough a literal source of light? I think that it really does help people get their EGO, especially, considering that everyone who got their EGO until now were near golden bough.
@@kaidouseishin4614 Yeah I knew that. We'll see. Kind of weird to introduce a term like this when the characters know what EGO is explicitly. I like the term, but psychoment makes more sense as a 'EGO replacement'. Probably because it just makes sense to someone out of the know. Never going to get down how to say it out loud for when I start doing ruina mod streams again and someone wants to talk about it.
Ishmael and Queequeg are compared to a married couple at one point in the book, which, in classical literature, is about as close as an author can come to saying "these bitches gay"
@@c_alam1tyyea they were very gay, but i mean like now that Queequeg is dead and Cathy is so too probably (read Wuthering Heights) i realy would like if the two maybe got a bit romantic since yk, both suffered a similar pain and both were always there to put sense in eachothers head
I tried my best, but they very well may be. I went to listen to the song in other people's videos of the fight to gauge the amount of time between each beat, and used Audacity to match up waveforms with a bit of guesswork.
I feel like I should have done this sooner, and not just because I lost internet yesterday. I kind of wanted to do a loop like that, but just never did. It''s processing now and should be up in 48 minutes according to RUclips.
At the beginning and when it switches into singing? In-game when starting Pip and Starbuck's phase, that white noise sound plays before the next part of the song kicks in. It's a transition between phases. I decided to include it in this version for that authentic experience.
I feel like you should add a part that has just music and no vocals before the climax. Feels a little stale without it, (not to take away the work you've done of course.) Just an idea.
Touhou lostword boss concept: Charon, The Tzar of the Hadean-Sanzu “The lost word you speak of doesn’t exist anymore here, it has been slain. You won’t go? You don’t believe me? Shame, then come, reimu in red! Bring the huntress one final duel of blades and talismans! Prove to me that you are worthy to march up to the angel of death alone!” ATK type: yin Element: water, moon, hadean (a unique element that grants absolute immunity to star and moon element attacks) HP: 2,000,000 ATK: 130 DEF: Yin - 15 Yang - 38 Passives: - stalwart determination: this boss enjoys extra abilities. - chains of the long gone crew: all spellcard damage done to the boss is heavily reduced until at 50% HP. - raging obsession: gain 1 “obsessive dream” every time a barrier is destroyed or when targeting a party member marked with “Acheron command” - forevermore hunt: HP does not go below 1 until all obsessive dreams are exhausted. Spend 1 obsessive dream for every attack/skill used. When all obsessive dreams are used up, HP drops to 0 immediately. Skills: - rusted anchor of obsession: gain a 3 turn attack boost, if there are 5 obsessive dreams, turn this into a 4 turn accuracy & attack buff. - Acheron command: points at a random target and marks them. Every hit deals a flat 3 damage to the marked for 4 turns. - blood feuding rule breaker: immediately stuns a target for one turn and targets them to deal extra damage and gain 1 obsessive dream upon use, this skill has a 50/50 chance to hit or fail. If failed nothing happens. Attacks: - rampage: focused. Charges a target and bashes them with the rusted anchor to deal heavy damage. Has a chance to induce a poison like status on the target for 3 turns. If there are 4 obsessive dreams, throw the harpoon to stun the target for 1 turn before ripping it out to deal heavy damage. (This part of the attack has a low chance to hit) - in my way: unfocused. Swipes the entire party with the anchor to barrage them with a wave of water, dealing moderate damage. If there are 5 obsessive dreams, spend 1 to slam the anchor’s tip into the ground, causing pillars of water to erupt below the party to deal extra damage with a low chance to break a barrier. - gloom basked in anger: focused. Uses when there are 4 obsessive dreams. Reels the target in with the anchor and rapidly beats the party member 4 times with the anchor to deal heavy damage, if there are 6 obsessive dreams, stab them to regain a small amount of HP. Spellcards: - echoing cry, the hunt is on!: unfocused. Lets out a scream that sends out rings of bullets, dealing heavy damage to the whole party and inflicting them all with heavy attack and defense debuffs for 3 turns. Spends 1 obsessive dream to stun the marked target for 1 turn. - it must still be alive!: focused. Throws the anchor at a party member to reel them in before bashing them away following a deluge of water, dealing heavy damage and inflicting bleed and “weeping gloom” for 3 turns (weeping gloom reduces all stats by half, and makes the affected less likely to be targeted) Last word: - THE HUNT IS ON! LETS REAP WHAT I SOW!: unfocused. Summons her mighty warship, the Acheron, to crash into the party following a barrage of cannon fire and burning harpoons, dealing catastrophic damage and inflicting weeping gloom on all party members for 2 turns. If at more than 10 obsessive dreams, spend all but 3 to fire a massive beam from the Acheron to deal further damage and destroy 2 barriers, reduce own stats by 4/5ths for 6 turns.
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 eh it’s one of the few touhou related things I played outside of AoCF and thousand night anamnesis. Excuse my ramblings here but I do like the concept of LW, but to be frank I just wish it wasn’t turn based, I wouldn’t say LW was the absolute worst game like I used to think, but compared to limbus, guardian tales, and even arknights I just feel LW lacks in some spots.
@@Beepers559 i have played every official touhou game, execept 0.5s like scarlet whether, i can say the lw is just using some ideias and designs from the official, everything else is different Otherwise, it's way to luck based, you needing to roll a character multiple times just to make them competitive to the endgame is bullshit
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The symbolism with ahabs gaslighting her crew, leading her to literally consume them is unreal. The way she talks about the whale and how it eats people as though she’s aware she’s doing the exact same thing is amazing, truly peak fiction.
For real. The symbolism, metaphors, analogies in this fight were insane. Ahab's silhouette assumes the form of an anatomical heart-- her shoulder looks like an aorta to me, with Queequeg, Starbuck, and Pip assuming the positions of the three first major arteries branching off the aorta. It is *insane*.
I mean... She most likely was aware, lets be honest.
We have seen what she did to her loyal crew on the way to the heart, how she talks about "people not dying until she lets them" and all that... Hell, the fact she is like "with her faith broken, the pale claims Queequeg!" shows she understands how the whale actually works.
I have no doubt she is fully aware of her actions
Ahab is an absolutely terrifying villain. Due to the fact that she well and truly is resolute and clear in her goals. Most of the Villains we've seen in the Pjmoon verse tend to either meltdown or distort in some sense when everything blows up in their face. Yet, Ahab just seems to become even more determined.
She is scary because she genuinely believes in her goal. Shes gaslit even herself into believing in her own lies.
Yeah. So unabashedly full of conviction that she manifested E.G.O.
Carmen didn't even get a chance with her, she just went straight to efflorescence.
Honestly ahab distorting would have probably been a good thing.
ahab became so delusional in persuit of her own goals that she manifested an ego,which means that it was not a delusion at this point - she truly believed in what she was saying. so yea, you are right. very powerful antagonist
@@Bluelyreahab distortion would probably be the most terrifying one so far
Imagine gaslighting people so hard you end up gaslighting yourself
In the book, Ahab was driven insane by the fact that he was once defeated by the whale. Thinking about losing to some sort of fish lead him to the state where he could not sleep or be still for a minute. Killing the whale was not even an goal, it was the only way to be free of these obsessive thoughts. The only way to found his peace.
So he literally gave up on ship's true mission (whale hunt) and went to a desperate sail with only aim to find and kill one singular fish in endless sea. That's what you really call bind obsession.
So sad that there's no such thing in Canto V. I can only remember a scene where Ahab was sleeping with eyes wide open, but i really wanted to see deep analysis of his (her) insanity.
Also, i miss that scene in a book, where during storm captain was sleeping sitting on a chair with hir eyes wide open, pointing into a map, marking the spots of recent seen whales. It both horrifying and magnificent. Truly a masterpiece of a book and a Canto.
(and yeah, hadn't been writing english complex comments in a while, can do some grammar mistakes, forgive me for a god's sake)
Using the crew's selves as fuel cartridges for the GasHarpoon.. It reminded me of Bondrewd.
Hearing you relating it to Bondrewd caught me off guard for a sec
Subarashii~ Now I can't unsee this...
The only difference being Bon distorted after cartridge usage, not before
Fairly close, save for at least Bondrewd cared about the kids. He wouldn't have been blessed if he didn't.
I KNEW IT WAS FAMILIAR HOLY SHIT
@@clevrb1860my old man Bondrewd at least genuinely case about everyone under him even though his sense of “care” is very twisted but I would argue he’s a lot better than Ahab though that’s a low bar to compare to.
I love Ahabmael for the fact that we can see what drives Ahab herself.
Ishmael as Ahab depends on her team, she is no slouch in combat herself, but comanding people is her forte. So, her orders must be absolute, she must stand taller than anyone else and she has to set an example -- by truly being the best of her team.
That's why she goes crazy whenever her team succeds in killing things without her - her authority and absolute rule might be shaken, they might start realizing there are other options, so she has to prove herself even more -- or make others fail, so she can show what happens, when you don't follow her commands.
Ishmael often strives for perfection and doesn't accept mediocrity. That's why she saw Ahab so highly once -- Ahab was an old lady with one leg, but she somehow was standing talller than anyone else, not a single flaw visible in her speech or stature. And it was only when Whale destroyed Pequod that she realized, that Ahab was just making others crawl, so she could be the one on top.
I wonder if the idea of trumpling others so she could succeed made Ish quit her previous job.
Who knew the perfect method of making a genuinely terrifying villain was to make them gaslight literally everyone
GASLIGHTING BEAM, GO!
Including me the player.
Wow she was written supremely well!
Gaslight-Harpoon
@@Halfcrabs Beat me to it I'm unoriginal now.
i appreciate the loop but i think your thoughts and analysis in the description are really solid, i was first kind of mad that ahab survived but then i realized there was a ton of missed potential with her not just as a character, but the fact her ego is fueled by stealing others' ego and being so delusional she seems pretty much immune to distortion. the fact that it resembles the claws is a nice observation---my first thought was that gasharpoon looked a lot like phillip's half awakened ego.
PoV you're so delusional that even your world's equivalent of god is afraid of you
Not to mention Ahab straight up skip Carmen usual prep talk before someone manifest an EGO.
@user-ni6nc1wu7h She skipped the cutscene with Carmen. She had better things to do than to listen to some imaginary voice tell her what she wants.
@@Raiju2 she probably didn't even recognize Carmen was there, in her madness, honestly. she is so utterly deep in her conviction and deluded devotion to her goal that any internal strength she ends up drawing from couldn't possibly be from anything other than herself and the strings of fate, in her mind.
manifesting ego just needs you to be absolutely resolute in your beliefs, it doesnt exactly have to be Good beliefs though, like how dongrang distorted as he wanted to deny everything and ignore the past, then he realized he can instead Destroy the past and manifested ego to do so
honestly i consider that the fight before gasharpoon shows how weak ahab is by herself, without crew she sacraficed for the whale
@duckervert3633And it perfectly proves that point, she is NOTHING without her crew, even after manifesting an EGO
@duckervert3633 I wouldnt consider that an "unheard achievement" for a few reasons.
Like how we cant talk about how hard such a thing would be in general since we have no other examples
Or how we have seen a similar thing happening but with distortions.
But yeah I wouldnt say that she is that weak on her own, but she definetively needs others to inflate her ego (in both senses) to be at her fullest potential
@duckervert3633And yet, for another person who wholly manifested their own EGO, Dongbaek, we canonically had to use 7 sinners.
Her EGO wasn't fueled off of others' either. Ahab may have been a captain whose job was to lead others, but she didn't respect her crew as anything other than tools for her to use, break, and discard.
Just like the Whale, she consumes the individuality of anyone under her and spits them out as a form best-suited to serve her.
@@15stargamer98Not really a fiar comparison when we used 5 with Kromer, and distorted, abd 7 with Distorted Dongrang, yet 6 with Ricardo who utterly annihilates us without trying.
@@WiseViper39 If anything, what you're talking about makes this comparison even fairer because you're drawing more points of data to use and rough power levels.
Ricardo's very specifically an enemy who is WAY out of our league, even if we ran 12 sinners against him.
His base skills are rolling like... 12. Everything comes from his offense level.
That theory in the description about Claw arms is… huh.
What theory?
@@ГордейШигонов Well not theory but the idea it might be an insight into how Claw arms work, at the bottom of the desc
@@ГордейШигонов If you've played the previous games you'd have seen what the arm of a Claw looks like, Ahab's Gas Harpoon looks similar to it especially due to the fact that she has 'vials' on it that are made of her crew members. The vials that a real Claw uses however, are serums from different Wings. Baral uses Serum K, W, and R which all come from their respective Wings
Imo they way Gasharpoon shows how claw arms work is that both are "powered up" by other people, but by different means.
Gasharpoon is literally so, by absorving their E.G.O and getting different powers based on such, but with Claw arms they're only symbolically powered up by other people, as they use singularities for attacks, things that are built in the corpses of may people (that one flashback of the smoke war Roland had in LOR comes to mind).
Is this too much of a crackhead theory or nah? It's 2 AM here where i live and i'm barely awake so it might sound like one
@@funninoriginal6054ego here is not ego equipment but the actual person's ego minds u. it symbolized the Pequod crew surrendered themselves fully to Ahab, not that they have awakened their E.G.O
Just finished reading the description and yeah, this is my experience too with looping songs. Always little nuances that you don't notice until you're trying to weld together what appears to be two perfectly even pieces of metal and realize they are not, in fact, even at all. Not even a little bit.
Just wanted to say I hear your suffering and I appreciate the effort you went through to deliver this to us!
I don't know what this is, but it appeared on my right tab while i was listening to Touhou 10 OST
FINALLY SOMEONE PUT THE HEARTHBEAT
Thank you so much for uploading this! The final verse only hits as hard as it does when you hear the first one a few times!
On a Project Moon note - anyone notice that Ahab's EGO resembles, at least a little bit, Baral's outfit in LoR?
Mili really hit the high notes on that my compass is curiosity huh?
I really appreciate those lil special edits, adding some extra spice the fights normally have. Don t get me wrong, milis songs are amazing just by themselfs, but when they are used like this... might be just me, but it makes them ooze with emotions and purpose plain files from game just lack
Thanks for posting this! This fight took me a solid hour, now I can listen to it without LCB Meursault rolling tails on Regret and getting one shot 30 minutes into the fight ♥
You brought a base id to a bossfight? (that doesn't include ego spam)
this rocks, i've been listening to this all finals week. between the thoughtful description and the insightful comments, this little space reminds me of old internet....
Thanks for posting the extension, hope you get well soon.
Thank you so much for posting these extended loops
I experinced the final fight after the nerf, I am actually quite glad pj did the nerf as i think it makes it a better experince both from a gameplay and story perspective. The trio fight was already really hard for me(i didn't have a lot of good units and don't have time to build them) and making a fight even harder right after that would just be painful. From a story perspective, one person being eaiser then 3 realy says something about the depictable thing that Ahab has done, it weakens the overall strength the group had. This is another difference Ishmael had with her, Ishmael wasn't fighting alone. Ahab was fundementally left alone in the ending where she enters her hallucinatory state where she seeks her men, she seeks help from those who persued the same life goals as her(forced or not) Despite being overdone, i have always enjoyed the power of friendship, or collabration and the idea of companionship. Having a clear goal in mind doesnt mean neglecting the friends and memories made on the way.
after reading the description i just wanna say, i feel like the reason kali was so busted with ego against head officers wasnt because of some 1 in a billion luck but because she was one of the first examples of proper ego before the seed of light event, and not only that but she was probably especially empowered for the desire to protect her friends and coworkers so i think that was why she managed to kill them all so easily, i mean the playable red mist isnt even half as strong as the actual red mist we fight and especially not nearly as strong as red mist during that fight
not to mention it was confirmed that the reason the head lost to kali was because that time they didn know what the hell ego is or how they work
MY COMPASS IS CURIOSITY
MY COMPASS IS CURIOSITY!!
(god I loved this chapter)
Don't wanna be a party pooper but pretty sure its "my compass was swallowed by the sea"
@@HonkG.Womblatin Listen to the whole song.
First it is "my compass was swallowed by the sea", in a kinda sorrowful way, and is what loops throughout most of the song.
Then it is loudly "my compass is curiosity" when nearing the end.
@@terraelaweonao oh
tbh i didn't see the lyrics when at the end of the fight,is it at the last ego or right before the ishmael harpoon cutscene
@@HonkG.Womblatin It switches over at some point during either the final scene before that cutscene, or that cutscene itself, possibly when Ishmael declares her new compass. By the time Ishmael harpoon happens, the song is definitely proclaiming "My compass is curiosity", although the lyrics don't show up on screen the way the other ones did.
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
(Usage of now NC // Still rele material)
E.G.O. can be pretty insane based on the wearer. However, there is an anomaly being the usage of Fused EGO. Fused EGO is only present within the now NC Wonderlab and Dongbaek. Dongbaeks usage of fused ego is not as outwardly present as WL, but there are still clear remnants of sunshower within Blooming (general design, etc.). Which now leads to the question of if fused ego is dependant on the ego gear used or the users personal ego, or a mix of the two. Personally I believe that depending on the gear strength, the personal ego can either fizzle into the suit (seen in WL) or the ego takes part of the suit and incorporates it (blooming). Now the issue is if a Colour grade fixer manifests a fused ALEPH gear ego (similar to gebura but a finished ego and not proto.) I'd believe they would probably have strength similar to prime kali? but thats excluding amps/etc.
it is not a fused ego as the other Pequod Crew members dont have control of their own ego to awaken their EGO equipment, and efflorensce EGO is just the general term to designate people who fully awakened their own EGO equipment, as Efflorensce literally mean fully matured.
Pretty sure Ahab has manifesting incomplete ego, kinda of like Philip in the library of ruina. Philip and Ahab look pretty similar with how the ego is fused into their bodies.
@@illitris3086 it's not "incomplete" tho ? Efflorensce means the E.G.O has completely manifested for the user
@@kaidouseishin4614 My only gripe with that is how Ahab has no characteristics in common with all other characters who have fully manifested EGO, but there may be something I'm not seeing.
@@illitris3086 wym ? why cant fully manifested E.G.O just a weapon? Kali fully manifested E.G.O was just her suit of armor
This is what I look like after drinking glowsticks
man why is her ego easier than that of the pequod fight, legit it took me changing a whole squad to get the queequeeg starbuck and ahab, but the ego? took one try with K hong lu dying and then clutching with ardour corrosion nuking killing everyone including the boss, very cool
Old comment but to me it felt like something about the way she always relies on others. With her and with Ahab ID Ishmael it comes off that even if she's a very capable person and competent fighter her greatest power is her ability to lead others, so once she's chewed through them all and there's nothing left at the deepest depths of her delusions she's so much weaker even after having consumed them. I think it's really interesting. Her ego blinds her to one of the things that made her most exceptional and worthy of admiration. All that charisma and unable to find fulfillment in it.
The gasharpoon fight was to show how ahab is nothing by herself, even her ego, fueled by her crew. Was weak, and in the trio fight, she wasn't that difficult to take down either by herself. Only reason it being mildly difficult being queequeg being her shield, and starbuck being her weapon to wield.
Ah good. I'm not the only one who noticed GasHarpoon's arm EGo looking like that. I wonder if Effloresced just refers to it being an EGO or something else since that term is new (to the series. Obviously we have had other things with the term in Limbus). EGO seem to be similar to abnos/distortions in that they can do stuff that is similar to magic. I mean there was some interesting stuff with EGO at the end of Leviathan.
Efflorensce E.G.O is just the general term for people fully manifested their E.G.O. E.G.O, not to be confused with ego, are equipment manifested by the person's hardened purpose, signified the user have fully accepted themselves for whoever they've become, come to an understanding and accepting everything they represented. Efflorensce is quite literally means "Fully Bloomed"
I believe it means EGO gained with the help of The Golden Bough
@@agzzradface3113 no it aint the golden bough never help anyone gain anything
@@kaidouseishin4614isn't the golden bough a literal source of light? I think that it really does help people get their EGO, especially, considering that everyone who got their EGO until now were near golden bough.
@@kaidouseishin4614 Yeah I knew that. We'll see. Kind of weird to introduce a term like this when the characters know what EGO is explicitly. I like the term, but psychoment makes more sense as a 'EGO replacement'. Probably because it just makes sense to someone out of the know.
Never going to get down how to say it out loud for when I start doing ruina mod streams again and someone wants to talk about it.
Do u happen to have the version that plays during the abno choice part? Where it’s a bit muted and reverbed?
A beautiful song about letting go of your obessions.
PS, QueeXIsh forever.
No :( Edit: I thought this said Ahab X Ish
@@popopop984queecliffxishmahab nore your style?
queequeg and ishmael were pretty gay in the book, according to a friend. funnie.
Ishmael and Queequeg are compared to a married couple at one point in the book, which, in classical literature, is about as close as an author can come to saying "these bitches gay"
@@c_alam1tyyea they were very gay, but i mean like now that Queequeg is dead and Cathy is so too probably (read Wuthering Heights) i realy would like if the two maybe got a bit romantic since yk, both suffered a similar pain and both were always there to put sense in eachothers head
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Leaving a timepoint for myself.
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I think the beats of the heartbeat are slightly offbeat but that might be just me. 😮
I tried my best, but they very well may be. I went to listen to the song in other people's videos of the fight to gauge the amount of time between each beat, and used Audacity to match up waveforms with a bit of guesswork.
I don't know what this is, but it appeared on my right tab while i was listening to Touhou 10 OST
Welcome to Project Moon. Enjoy your stay in the City
Nice another zun music enjoyer
Thankyou!!
would like a loop of the first part if there isn't already
I feel like I should have done this sooner, and not just because I lost internet yesterday. I kind of wanted to do a loop like that, but just never did. It''s processing now and should be up in 48 minutes according to RUclips.
waiting for the drop... is this how getting edged feels like?
Is the white noise part of the song or a sfx?
At the beginning and when it switches into singing?
In-game when starting Pip and Starbuck's phase, that white noise sound plays before the next part of the song kicks in. It's a transition between phases. I decided to include it in this version for that authentic experience.
I feel like you should add a part that has just music and no vocals before the climax. Feels a little stale without it, (not to take away the work you've done of course.)
Just an idea.
Is it possible that you could make this loop without the heartbeat?
tnx
Me thinking for 10 minutes straight about what should i do with the counter: Ish stfu let me think *turn off the music*
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the first part sounds vaguely medical to me, its weird
Touhou lostword boss concept: Charon, The Tzar of the Hadean-Sanzu
“The lost word you speak of doesn’t exist anymore here, it has been slain. You won’t go? You don’t believe me? Shame, then come, reimu in red! Bring the huntress one final duel of blades and talismans! Prove to me that you are worthy to march up to the angel of death alone!”
ATK type: yin
Element: water, moon, hadean (a unique element that grants absolute immunity to star and moon element attacks)
HP: 2,000,000
ATK: 130
DEF: Yin - 15 Yang - 38
Passives:
- stalwart determination: this boss enjoys extra abilities.
- chains of the long gone crew: all spellcard damage done to the boss is heavily reduced until at 50% HP.
- raging obsession: gain 1 “obsessive dream” every time a barrier is destroyed or when targeting a party member marked with “Acheron command”
- forevermore hunt: HP does not go below 1 until all obsessive dreams are exhausted. Spend 1 obsessive dream for every attack/skill used. When all obsessive dreams are used up, HP drops to 0 immediately.
Skills:
- rusted anchor of obsession: gain a 3 turn attack boost, if there are 5 obsessive dreams, turn this into a 4 turn accuracy & attack buff.
- Acheron command: points at a random target and marks them. Every hit deals a flat 3 damage to the marked for 4 turns.
- blood feuding rule breaker: immediately stuns a target for one turn and targets them to deal extra damage and gain 1 obsessive dream upon use, this skill has a 50/50 chance to hit or fail. If failed nothing happens.
Attacks:
- rampage: focused. Charges a target and bashes them with the rusted anchor to deal heavy damage. Has a chance to induce a poison like status on the target for 3 turns. If there are 4 obsessive dreams, throw the harpoon to stun the target for 1 turn before ripping it out to deal heavy damage. (This part of the attack has a low chance to hit)
- in my way: unfocused. Swipes the entire party with the anchor to barrage them with a wave of water, dealing moderate damage. If there are 5 obsessive dreams, spend 1 to slam the anchor’s tip into the ground, causing pillars of water to erupt below the party to deal extra damage with a low chance to break a barrier.
- gloom basked in anger: focused. Uses when there are 4 obsessive dreams. Reels the target in with the anchor and rapidly beats the party member 4 times with the anchor to deal heavy damage, if there are 6 obsessive dreams, stab them to regain a small amount of HP.
Spellcards:
- echoing cry, the hunt is on!: unfocused. Lets out a scream that sends out rings of bullets, dealing heavy damage to the whole party and inflicting them all with heavy attack and defense debuffs for 3 turns. Spends 1 obsessive dream to stun the marked target for 1 turn.
- it must still be alive!: focused. Throws the anchor at a party member to reel them in before bashing them away following a deluge of water, dealing heavy damage and inflicting bleed and “weeping gloom” for 3 turns (weeping gloom reduces all stats by half, and makes the affected less likely to be targeted)
Last word:
- THE HUNT IS ON! LETS REAP WHAT I SOW!: unfocused. Summons her mighty warship, the Acheron, to crash into the party following a barrage of cannon fire and burning harpoons, dealing catastrophic damage and inflicting weeping gloom on all party members for 2 turns. If at more than 10 obsessive dreams, spend all but 3 to fire a massive beam from the Acheron to deal further damage and destroy 2 barriers, reduce own stats by 4/5ths for 6 turns.
shame lw is bad, this a cool concept
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 eh it’s one of the few touhou related things I played outside of AoCF and thousand night anamnesis. Excuse my ramblings here but I do like the concept of LW, but to be frank I just wish it wasn’t turn based, I wouldn’t say LW was the absolute worst game like I used to think, but compared to limbus, guardian tales, and even arknights I just feel LW lacks in some spots.
@@Beepers559 i have played every official touhou game, execept 0.5s like scarlet whether, i can say the lw is just using some ideias and designs from the official, everything else is different
Otherwise, it's way to luck based, you needing to roll a character multiple times just to make them competitive to the endgame is bullshit
@@Beepers559 It really fails in making remarkable moments, the characters are all kinda flat
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 don’t forget the absolute GEM that is the scarlet devil tower!
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