As a retired dental assist, I have the utmost respect for Dr. Dan Fischer DDS, the founder of Ultradent Dental Products. He not only created an excellent company, but he and Shem were instrumental in helping many persons leave the FLDS, especially the Lost Boys that Warren Jeffs ostracized. Thank you Dr Fischer and Shem for you courage and saving many young lives. Thank you Shem for also having the strength and courage to stand up against one of the most evil men ever to walk the earth, Warren Jeffs.
I love this, my grandma Marryanne is his dads sister. This makes me proud to be part of the fisher family. I left when I was 17 now I’m 22 and am so grateful for the resources that are available to us kids from the FLDS.
This was SO interesting. I vote for one more vid in which Shem talks (to the degree he's willing) about how his kids have done, his remarriage (based on the wedding ring), if he's normal LDS now or a true "apostate", etc... and any other kids he knows about for which he can discuss. Also, Melissa, my heart is always with the girls... please consider asking more questions about the female experience if you can. I feel like life was much harder for them...
Agree! I'd love to hear more of female perspectives. All these ex-FLDs men saying they had a good childhood. Yes. That's the point. You are the demographic that the system the mormon church and its offshoots have been created to benefit. Glad they realized something was off and left but hope they also recognize what was going on to give them those fond childhood memories.
@@ekjordan Exactly. I get a little anxious (? I can't come up with the right word) when the men talk about their happy childhoods. Meanwhile, Josh's half-sister has a hard time even articulating how difficult it was for her. Maybe Shem (based on the legal cases) can discuss how some of the child brides have fared since the community was basically shattered.
(Melissa) We would love to do a part 2 with Shem at some point. My heart is with the women as well. It is a difficult thing because honestly there aren't as many women who have left as there are men (for obvious control reasons). I don't usually like asking too many questions to the men about women's experiences because they just don't have the insight, and I don't want men telling the women's stories for them (they've had enough of that in their lives). We are hoping and actively trying to line more interviews up with women, but because they often have more trauma, they are also a lot of times not ready to share their stories yet. We don't want to open wounds for people that have not healed from their experiences for any reason, especially for something as insignificant as a RUclips video. We love and support all of the women that we know that have left, and when they are ready and comfortable in telling their story, we will be so happy to interview them and share their stories with all of you. I think that telling your story, no matter who you are, can give you power, and we hope to empower some of those women in the future by letting them tell theirs.
I love how excited Shem was when he was talking about how schools are coming back to the community. He was all like "Educations BACK!!" 😆 🤣 That's really cool.
2 of my mom's sisters were married to Shem's brother. Their husband worked full time for the flds without pay. His family suffered so much you wouldn't believe. One day when she was at her brother's house, she picked up an apple core off the floor that someone was sweeping, washed it off and ate it. That is when we realized how bad it really was for them. We'd bring them food and clothes, but it would just embarrass them more. But everyone was struggling so we couldn't help much.
I’d like to point out that it was probably a lot safer for HIM to grow up then his sisters. I grew up in the People of Praise and my experience with a blissful, community-driven childhood is almost identical. (We also called our group “the Community” and people were “commanded” to move to different cities or neighborhoods by their spiritual heads.) Things changed for me once I hit puberty. Constant body shaming, spanking for misbehavior, no sex Ed, even the difference between consensual sex outside of marriage and rape…like I said, the experience of girls might have been a little different.
Yes - it sounds like the very very very large difference in the human rights of women compared to men in most of this groups needs to always be considered when we hear descriptions of idyllic childhoods - those are the boys experiences
What a great and fascinating story of the Fischer family. It sure took a lot of courage for Shem to standup and start the ball rolling on many changes that improved a lot of lives.
Their voices are so similar!!! It’s crazy! Also, a side note? Anyone who has someone work for them or marries someone from FLDS they are super lucky. They’re all so hard working, resourceful, well rounded, not technology motivated/obsessed and besides the initial leaders it seems like everyone has really good hearts and core values. 💕
Shem seems like such a pleasant person - I’m so glad that he stood up to Warren Jeffs! I love the fact that he told Warren to “keep sweet” 😂 Shem has the same pleasant laugh as Sam!
I’d love to read a book by Shem about everything he experienced, good and bad. Especially the legal and social work he did as an adult after leaving I find really inspiring and amazing!
Thank you so much for this video. This will help people "on the outside" understand how the FLDS works. It's so sad how these men, "so called prophets", used thier power to tear these families apart for their own gain. Blessings to all of the families that suffered.
There is so much information in this video. I know I will have to watch it again. So happy that reaching out is being done for those still involved and links to organizations. So much of what was said is true in other aspects of life in this country now. Having to admit what you believed so fervently is not the truth. How horrible that greed for power corrupted something that once had wonderful aspects, the teaching of core values, ethics and community. Thank you for this wonderful vlog. I can only wish for the abundance of good for Shem Fischer and family for the good he has put out to the world.
I'm so glad you're interviewing him. I really like him. He really has great insight into the community and has worked so hard to help those who can get out. I'm so glad he got his house back! Very cool dude and I hope he knows how valuable he is to those in or out of the community in finding freedom. I can't really imagine being under that kind of 'rule' and going along with it, like he said, it apparently changed a lot into something that was about power and money rather than religion with religion just being the 'hold' to get the power and money. That's not religion, that's brainwashing. God is good and kind and would never want anyone to suffer like that or be separated from their families on a whim. That's not God talking, that's power talking. Not the same thing.
Thank you for sharing and everything you’ve done to help put this evil man away, also helping victims Shem. Your courage is commendable 👏 I’m close to someone who has helped bring out the evil truth (in court) that occurred within another religion.
Wow what an interesting life story!! Shem was lucky his wife and children didn’t get taken from him when he was still in the church/living on church property. I’m glad he was able to get out. I’m sorry outside life didn’t agree with his first wife. How does his children feel about everything now? Are his kids still close to their father? I hope there will be more stories with Shem!
What a fascinating interview. It was really interesting to hear Shem's story. Its so cool how he's helped so many lost boys. Thanks for another great video!
Thank you so much. It can be really difficult to grasp how situations like this play out in real life. The common sense feeling and approach you have to the telling of your story makes it easier to (if not relate) understand
What an awesome inspiring story! Did any of his other mothers or siblings make it out ??? What happened to his father, was he ever reunited with any of his family?? Thank you for sharing your story. Ps loved the "be sweet" comment 😅😅
Shem, you are one of my heroes. All of my life I would hear people asking other people, who is your hero, and I had people I admired, but no-one who fit the word hero for me. Then came Leah Remini, and now you.
I appreciate this interview and his insight. I had similar reactions to many when he talked about a good childhood... It was probably better for the boys. His statements of not EVER going after poligamy also bothered me. ANY time a woman is told her only way into heaven is through a man is wrong, misogynistic, and ridiculous. Again I do appreciate so much of what he had to say but these are points that I struggled with.
Reading Carolyn Jessop’s book “Escape,” I’ve come across Shem on page 365. It’s amazing reading this book, and knowing Shem’s and Dan’s huge impacts!!! I’m speechless 😶‼️
That was a great video! Very interesting to hear from someone old enough to remember the FLDS life and leadership prior to the Jeffs. My favorite part was hearing about the times Shem stood up to Warren, leaving Warren totally at a loss for how to handle that. Warren was basically a bully, and just like when you stand up to a bully...they lose their power over you and don't know how to take that. I also loved hearing from Shem about being in the front lines to help stop the abuse and corruption/criminal activity, as well as helping the victims of it. Thank you for interviewing him, and thanks for sharing, Shem! Hope you can share again in the future. 😊
What a great story..the strength and honor that was needed to do everything Mr Fischer has done is incredible. I read a book some years ago called "The Witness Wore Red"...its about FLDS. I was in awe of the horrors of this sect.
Such a good conversation, thank you for this video and another perspective on how it was out there. It’s so sad how Rulon and Warren changed how things were out there. It sounded nice before they came into power. Melissa and Sam you both are amazing!!!!💙
I've always been curious about the FLDS since they made national news back in 2005. I live in an area with many mormons as well as mennonites, and I have relatives who are Jehova's Witnesses, born-again Evangelicals, Baptists, Catholics, and Athiessts, so it's fascinating how different these teachings are even all within the United States. Thank you for your videos giving unique insights into this insular group!
Wow this is an awesome video I want to see and hear more. I love that Shem had gone threw 3 profits. Hearing how his dad got separated and the family broken up I was so sad for them. Wonder who he still keeps into his with?? His poor 6 year old sister😢😢😢. Not to mention them taking the company unreal!!!!
This was such an interesting video. We admire shem’s determination and realistic outlook. We learned a lot…thank you for sharing your life experiences.
Hey, Warren, Keep sweet! Great storytelling, Shem. So interesting to hear the point of view of an intelligent adult who, as he said, had nothing to lose.
Mr Fischer hit the nail on the head with what he said in the meeting - that as soon as a religion starts breaking up families (which are the core of our society) then that is when it is going very wrong. I am glad he was able to get out and certainly it is work, education and skills which protects men and women in all these situations so if people do nothing else try to ensure your children have a good education. that in my view involves women and men - when you have two separate careers in a family even when you have young children - you are both protected in case things go wrong. He speaks very well and coherently too (at least from the standpoint of those of us in the UK - good English and easy to understand) [I liked seeing the lady who came no to the video in the background by mistake and then retreated!]
When I first realised that Warren Jeffs still has so much control over people, even from prison I honestly wished he would disappear from the planet, in what ever form that took. All the suffering him and his father caused countless innocent people, especially children shows just how evil he truly is. All the love and support that the people in the FLDS show him yet he continues to make all their lives as hard as it can possibly be. So glad for the people that have escaped/left. I mean if Jeffs continues like he is doing the religion will cease to exist. No marriages and no more kids it's just a matter of time.
Listening to Shem talk about the time before the Jeff's you can sort of get an idea of why the flds appealed to people with the whole self sufficient thinking, community feel and living within your means. It helps makes sense of the thinking behind the flds in the beginning for me
Now I'm not Morman but this is a good man and you and your wife are really sweet kind people!!! It's good to see people from your religion in a positive light. I have only heard about the bad people like the Jeffs and the Daybell craziness🙏🙏🙏
Watching Mr. Fisher tell his story though I have not finished the video and will at this point all I can say is Egads. Thanks to all of you for this Vlog
I am very sure I have seen this man and his house (and some of his kids) in some documentary on lost boys! Where he took a few in and kicked them out - but after almost a YEAR later and when they were going the wrong way. And then still helping them from the sideline. And I also remember, I think, him being mentioned in other peoples memoirs! And I live on the other side of the earth. How cool is that!
I have so enjoyed, if that's the right term, listening to all of you. I always felt awful for what the young girls were doing forced to do. Abuse is abuse. God Bless.
His dad was eventually invited back into the church, but didn't get his family back. His mom left town with the jeffs family around 2004, and even her children and grandchildren in the church were not allowed to spend time with her. About 1012, she was told she was guilty of having an abortion and banished from the church. She lives in Idaho with others of shem's family who were kicked out of the church. But she is still a believer and doesn't have contact with her kids out of or in the flds. Shem's dad passed away a decade or so ago also.
"Keep sweet no matter what, Warren!" I would love to see Warren's face that second. And that is a six word short story.
That was awesome when he said that!! 🤣
Also loved how his daughter asked why the evil men were kicking them out so they couldn't hear God's word. I hope everyone in the meeting heard that!
Seriously the funniest thing ever
The best response!!
As a retired dental assist, I have the utmost respect for Dr. Dan Fischer DDS, the founder of Ultradent Dental Products. He not only created an excellent company, but he and Shem were instrumental in helping many persons leave the FLDS, especially the Lost Boys that Warren Jeffs ostracized. Thank you Dr Fischer and Shem for you courage and saving many young lives. Thank you Shem for also having the strength and courage to stand up against one of the most evil men ever to walk the earth, Warren Jeffs.
I soooooo appreciate Shem’s ability to STAND FIRM against the false prophet. What a beautiful testimony!!!
I love this, my grandma Marryanne is his dads sister. This makes me proud to be part of the fisher family. I left when I was 17 now I’m 22 and am so grateful for the resources that are available to us kids from the FLDS.
So she's his aunt?
This was SO interesting. I vote for one more vid in which Shem talks (to the degree he's willing) about how his kids have done, his remarriage (based on the wedding ring), if he's normal LDS now or a true "apostate", etc... and any other kids he knows about for which he can discuss. Also, Melissa, my heart is always with the girls... please consider asking more questions about the female experience if you can. I feel like life was much harder for them...
Agree! I'd love to hear more of female perspectives. All these ex-FLDs men saying they had a good childhood. Yes. That's the point. You are the demographic that the system the mormon church and its offshoots have been created to benefit. Glad they realized something was off and left but hope they also recognize what was going on to give them those fond childhood memories.
YES! I love Melissa's questions... she almost always asks exactly what I'm thinking. But more of the female experience would be wonderful.
@@ekjordan Exactly. I get a little anxious (? I can't come up with the right word) when the men talk about their happy childhoods. Meanwhile, Josh's half-sister has a hard time even articulating how difficult it was for her. Maybe Shem (based on the legal cases) can discuss how some of the child brides have fared since the community was basically shattered.
(Melissa) We would love to do a part 2 with Shem at some point. My heart is with the women as well. It is a difficult thing because honestly there aren't as many women who have left as there are men (for obvious control reasons). I don't usually like asking too many questions to the men about women's experiences because they just don't have the insight, and I don't want men telling the women's stories for them (they've had enough of that in their lives). We are hoping and actively trying to line more interviews up with women, but because they often have more trauma, they are also a lot of times not ready to share their stories yet. We don't want to open wounds for people that have not healed from their experiences for any reason, especially for something as insignificant as a RUclips video. We love and support all of the women that we know that have left, and when they are ready and comfortable in telling their story, we will be so happy to interview them and share their stories with all of you. I think that telling your story, no matter who you are, can give you power, and we hope to empower some of those women in the future by letting them tell theirs.
@@GrowingUpinPolygamy Thanks, Melissa. Wonderful, heartfelt reply. I look forward to it.
I love how excited Shem was when he was talking about how schools are coming back to the community. He was all like "Educations BACK!!" 😆 🤣 That's really cool.
Shem needs to write a book!
I agree!
Definitely. I’ve read Sam Brower’s book, Prophet’s Prey, and Stolen Innocence by Elissa Wall, and I would certainly read Mr Fischer’s book.
Delightful guest! I appreciate him sharing his truth. I would like to hear more from Shem. 😊
A documentary should be made about Mr. Fisher's story
Absolutely agree!!! I was gonna say the same but saw your comment!
Definitely! I would totally watch it and if we get to the area we will make a reservation Would love to meet him 💝💝
Yes! I can’t get enough of knowing everyone’s stories.
These stories must be told, we cannot shy away from what is uncomfortable, keep telling the story!
2 of my mom's sisters were married to Shem's brother. Their husband worked full time for the flds without pay. His family suffered so much you wouldn't believe. One day when she was at her brother's house, she picked up an apple core off the floor that someone was sweeping, washed it off and ate it. That is when we realized how bad it really was for them. We'd bring them food and clothes, but it would just embarrass them more. But everyone was struggling so we couldn't help much.
so two biological sisters shared one man?
@agood1 not that unusual there...
Excellent interview. I love how Shem stood up for what he believed in and announced it to Warren's face and to the community!
Wow, what a great story of Shem standing up to Warren! Love his attitude!
I love that he said he used the original principles of his faith to do what he did. What a good brave man.
I’d like to point out that it was probably a lot safer for HIM to grow up then his sisters. I grew up in the People of Praise and my experience with a blissful, community-driven childhood is almost identical. (We also called our group “the Community” and people were “commanded” to move to different cities or neighborhoods by their spiritual heads.) Things changed for me once I hit puberty. Constant body shaming, spanking for misbehavior, no sex Ed, even the difference between consensual sex outside of marriage and rape…like I said, the experience of girls might have been a little different.
Yes - it sounds like the very very very large difference in the human rights of women compared to men in most of this groups needs to always be considered when we hear descriptions of idyllic childhoods - those are the boys experiences
What a great and fascinating story of the Fischer family. It sure took a lot of courage for Shem to standup and start the ball rolling on many changes that improved a lot of lives.
I think you are a brave man Shem Fisher and I send you kind regards from the UK.
Love that he showed such strength, backbone and reason.
Dang! Sams got all kina rebels in his family and I’m here for it. I’m so glad you shared his story, it was super interesting
Their voices are so similar!!! It’s crazy! Also, a side note? Anyone who has someone work for them or marries someone from FLDS they are super lucky. They’re all so hard working, resourceful, well rounded, not technology motivated/obsessed and besides the initial leaders it seems like everyone has really good hearts and core values. 💕
I believe Sam said that Shem is actually his blood cousin. It's not uncommon for cousins to share familial traits..
Shem seems like such a pleasant person - I’m so glad that he stood up to Warren Jeffs! I love the fact that he told Warren to “keep sweet” 😂 Shem has the same pleasant laugh as Sam!
Superb interview. Shem you are a good Christian.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Jeff's family are a great example of this.
This man is a real live hero.
I’d love to read a book by Shem about everything he experienced, good and bad. Especially the legal and social work he did as an adult after leaving I find really inspiring and amazing!
Brilliant interview!! Shem was so articulate explaining ,was thoroughly enjoyable listening to him ,we need part 2,he is extremely interesting.
Aww thank you!
What happened to is brother and sister and his family
Thank you so much for this video. This will help people "on the outside" understand how the FLDS works. It's so sad how these men, "so called prophets", used thier power to tear these families apart for their own gain. Blessings to all of the families that suffered.
So interesting! I would love to see a part 2 now and ask him what happened to his dad and the rest of them.
Every time I watch your videos I find them more interesting than the last... love the videos.
There is so much information in this video. I know I will have to watch it again. So happy that reaching out is being done for those still involved and links to organizations. So much of what was said is true in other aspects of life in this country now. Having to admit what you believed so fervently is not the truth. How horrible that greed for power corrupted something that once had wonderful aspects, the teaching of core values, ethics and community. Thank you for this wonderful vlog. I can only wish for the abundance of good for Shem Fischer and family for the good he has put out to the world.
I loved this interview. I would love to hear more interviews from family who left the FLDS.
I'm so glad you're interviewing him. I really like him. He really has great insight into the community and has worked so hard to help those who can get out. I'm so glad he got his house back! Very cool dude and I hope he knows how valuable he is to those in or out of the community in finding freedom. I can't really imagine being under that kind of 'rule' and going along with it, like he said, it apparently changed a lot into something that was about power and money rather than religion with religion just being the 'hold' to get the power and money. That's not religion, that's brainwashing. God is good and kind and would never want anyone to suffer like that or be separated from their families on a whim. That's not God talking, that's power talking. Not the same thing.
Thank you for sharing and everything you’ve done to help put this evil man away, also helping victims Shem. Your courage is commendable 👏 I’m close to someone who has helped bring out the evil truth (in court) that occurred within another religion.
Wow what an interesting life story!! Shem was lucky his wife and children didn’t get taken from him when he was still in the church/living on church property. I’m glad he was able to get out. I’m sorry outside life didn’t agree with his first wife. How does his children feel about everything now? Are his kids still close to their father? I hope there will be more stories with Shem!
Great question I would like to know to.
What a fascinating interview. It was really interesting to hear Shem's story. Its so cool how he's helped so many lost boys. Thanks for another great video!
Our pleasure!
Thank you so much. It can be really difficult to grasp how situations like this play out in real life. The common sense feeling and approach you have to the telling of your story makes it easier to (if not relate) understand
What an awesome inspiring story! Did any of his other mothers or siblings make it out ??? What happened to his father, was he ever reunited with any of his family?? Thank you for sharing your story. Ps loved the "be sweet" comment 😅😅
Shem, you are one of my heroes. All of my life I would hear people asking other people, who is your hero, and I had people I admired, but no-one who fit the word hero for me. Then came Leah Remini, and now you.
This came to mind to me too! He is a hero, showing great courage ❤
I appreciate this interview and his insight. I had similar reactions to many when he talked about a good childhood... It was probably better for the boys. His statements of not EVER going after poligamy also bothered me. ANY time a woman is told her only way into heaven is through a man is wrong, misogynistic, and ridiculous. Again I do appreciate so much of what he had to say but these are points that I struggled with.
Mr Fisher thank for trusting your own sense of right and wrong and your incredible courage and integrity.
Reading Carolyn Jessop’s book “Escape,” I’ve come across Shem on page 365. It’s amazing reading this book, and knowing Shem’s and Dan’s huge impacts!!! I’m speechless 😶‼️
You could also read the witness wore red and unbelievably well told story
Such a great read! I’m a fan on the Fischers! 👏
I read her book. These former FLDS are wonderfully rebellious, and I love it!
This was an incredible interview.
At 15:00 Shem hits the nail on the head, strip away everything else, and you are left with power and greed, the root of all evil!
That was a great video! Very interesting to hear from someone old enough to remember the FLDS life and leadership prior to the Jeffs. My favorite part was hearing about the times Shem stood up to Warren, leaving Warren totally at a loss for how to handle that. Warren was basically a bully, and just like when you stand up to a bully...they lose their power over you and don't know how to take that. I also loved hearing from Shem about being in the front lines to help stop the abuse and corruption/criminal activity, as well as helping the victims of it. Thank you for interviewing him, and thanks for sharing, Shem! Hope you can share again in the future. 😊
Love it from the UK. I'm so fascinated by the FLDS. Take care and keep informing us. 🇬🇧🇬🇧👌👍😊
I would say owning someone's family is still slavery and how can that happen in this day and age. This was an amazing story.
"Amazing" ... I beg to differ .. Disgusting all these stories of one man impregnating all these woman and some girls. Beyond depressing.
What a great story..the strength and honor that was needed to do everything Mr Fischer has done is incredible. I read a book some years ago called "The Witness Wore Red"...its about FLDS. I was in awe of the horrors of this sect.
I cannot believe this doesn’t have a million views. Seriously. Soo interesting and captivating and deserving of a spotlight online!
Such a good conversation, thank you for this video and another perspective on how it was out there. It’s so sad how Rulon and Warren changed how things were out there. It sounded nice before they came into power. Melissa and Sam you both are amazing!!!!💙
Proud of this gentleman and his escape on his terms. Thank you for helping those that are raised in a world that separates and controls.
That was was really really interesting, I enjoyed it very much. Shem sure has had interesting life. I love your channel.
Was really looking forward to this! What a great interview!! Thanks so much for sharing!! 😊
Shem what a Man U r to stand up against evil and at the same time being a hero to many of the new generation !!!
This is so interesting and informative. Thank you.
I've always been curious about the FLDS since they made national news back in 2005. I live in an area with many mormons as well as mennonites, and I have relatives who are Jehova's Witnesses, born-again Evangelicals, Baptists, Catholics, and Athiessts, so it's fascinating how different these teachings are even all within the United States. Thank you for your videos giving unique insights into this insular group!
This was amazing. I would love to see another conversation with Shem at some point. He is amazing!
Very interesting interview. Thanks from Cornwall, UK
He is a fine, clear courageous man to be admired by folks like me outside the religion as well.
Love listening to your videos lately podcast style while getting random things done. Thanks for sharing!
Me too!
Oh Yay! What a treat! Love watching your videos.. they are so interesting and entertaining!:)
Wow this is an awesome video I want to see and hear more. I love that Shem had gone threw 3 profits. Hearing how his dad got separated and the family broken up I was so sad for them. Wonder who he still keeps into his with?? His poor 6 year old sister😢😢😢. Not to mention them taking the company unreal!!!!
This was such an interesting video. We admire shem’s determination and realistic outlook. We learned a lot…thank you for sharing your life experiences.
I’ve been watching your videos non stop for the last like 2 weeks. So glad there is a new one ❤️
Hey, Warren, Keep sweet!
Great storytelling, Shem. So interesting to hear the point of view of an intelligent adult who, as he said, had nothing to lose.
What a great video! So glad to hear his story. Thanks for sharing! Have a great weekend!
I really enjoyed this interview. It was insightful to see more of the events that led up prior to Warren Jeffs
Very interesting and well presented, thank you.
Shem is wonderful storyteller and definitely has a voice for radio/audiobooks!
What an amazing video. Thank you for offering this video. It definitely was a eye opener. Great job 👏
Mr Fischer hit the nail on the head with what he said in the meeting - that as soon as a religion starts breaking up families (which are the core of our society) then that is when it is going very wrong. I am glad he was able to get out and certainly it is work, education and skills which protects men and women in all these situations so if people do nothing else try to ensure your children have a good education. that in my view involves women and men - when you have two separate careers in a family even when you have young children - you are both protected in case things go wrong.
He speaks very well and coherently too (at least from the standpoint of those of us in the UK - good English and easy to understand)
[I liked seeing the lady who came no to the video in the background by mistake and then retreated!]
When I first realised that Warren Jeffs still has so much control over people, even from prison I honestly wished he would disappear from the planet, in what ever form that took. All the suffering him and his father caused countless innocent people, especially children shows just how evil he truly is. All the love and support that the people in the FLDS show him yet he continues to make all their lives as hard as it can possibly be. So glad for the people that have escaped/left. I mean if Jeffs continues like he is doing the religion will cease to exist. No marriages and no more kids it's just a matter of time.
Maybe that’s warren jeffs plan? I mean I’m sure it’s because if he can’t have it nobody can. But idk, it’s all
So insane
Listening to Shem talk about the time before the Jeff's you can sort of get an idea of why the flds appealed to people with the whole self sufficient thinking, community feel and living within your means. It helps makes sense of the thinking behind the flds in the beginning for me
Now I'm not Morman but this is a good man and you and your wife are really sweet kind people!!! It's good to see people from your religion in a positive light. I have only heard about the bad people like the Jeffs and the Daybell craziness🙏🙏🙏
Shem is my HERO.
Good onya Shem for sticking to your truth & your advocacy.
Loved this ! What a guy, he sees through it all !
What a grrreat story!!!! Thank you all for sharing this!
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT interview. Thank you 😊
Thanks for listening!
Amazing interview, thank you for doing this and sharing and to Shem and all he's done!
Thank you!
Fascinating. Interesting to get a perspective of life in FLDS before the Jeffs.
Watching Mr. Fisher tell his story though I have not finished the video and will at this point all I can say is Egads. Thanks to all of you for this Vlog
Hi guys! Thank you for another informative video. Love and blessings from Virginia 😘
Thank you for watching! =)
Wow, that was fascinating! Thank u to your brave guest for his fearlessness in fighting the devil. He certainly was a hero.
This was SUCH a good watch!!! Thank u guys!!
Thanks for watching!
What an absolutely fantastic story.
Fantastic interview
What a great video! I listened to the whole thing at work this morning. This guy is awesome.
Thank you!
I am very sure I have seen this man and his house (and some of his kids) in some documentary on lost boys! Where he took a few in and kicked them out - but after almost a YEAR later and when they were going the wrong way. And then still helping them from the sideline. And I also remember, I think, him being mentioned in other peoples memoirs! And I live on the other side of the earth. How cool is that!
I have so enjoyed, if that's the right term, listening to all of you. I always felt awful for what the young girls were doing forced to do. Abuse is abuse. God Bless.
I am amazed at this man’s courage as well as the people in the other stories that your channel has brought to us. Than you for sharing these stories.
Shem, please write a memoir!
This man's story was so interesting. He is obviously a well spoken, educated man.
This was fantastic!!! Thank youab
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a great interview with a wonderful man!
This man’s story is very interesting. Anyone else notice how often he talks over or interrupts Melissa when she is asking a question?
You stood up to the prophet!!! Holy shit! Amazing
So worthwhile to listen to the vary end! Twists and turns
What has happened to Shem’s father,mothers and siblings? Such an awesome interview! Many thanks.
I was wondering the same thing
I want to know too.
His dad was eventually invited back into the church, but didn't get his family back. His mom left town with the jeffs family around 2004, and even her children and grandchildren in the church were not allowed to spend time with her. About 1012, she was told she was guilty of having an abortion and banished from the church. She lives in Idaho with others of shem's family who were kicked out of the church. But she is still a believer and doesn't have contact with her kids out of or in the flds.
Shem's dad passed away a decade or so ago also.
@@vjs4539 This report of the family is heartbreaking. Thank you for the update.
Awesome. Thank you!
Interview this man FREQUENTLY
Wow! This is so fascinating!