Silver and Gold, Life and Death ─ Elden Ring Fear the Old Lore

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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
  • In this episode of Fear the Old Lore, we take an in-depth look at a variety of topics related to gold, silver, life, and death as they relate to the story of Elden Ring, examining the English and Japanese translations of the game for more insight into the lore. Some topics include: Albinaurics, the Nox, glintstone sorcerers, the primeval current, the Erdtree, Ranni, Godwyn, Destined Death, Fia, Rogier, Those Who Live in Death, Millicent, Malenia, & Miquella's Unalloyed Gold Needle, as well as Placidusax, the ancient dragons, red lightning, ice lightning, Dragonkin Soldiers, and runes.
    This is the largest video I've done so far, beating out my video on the "Dark" of Dark Souls by a significant margin. I reference my video about "Astel and the Primeval Current" a few times throughout the video, but it isn't necessary to watch it before watching this one.
    There are going to be some controversial takes throughout, and I try to be very careful with my choice of language, so I ask that people keep in mind when I'm sharing fact vs. sharing opinion.
    Special thanks to SinisterStromboli and the members of my Discord ( / discord ) for the conversations over the past few months. It's been a pleasure.
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    00:00 - Intro & Spoiler Warning
    00:20 - Albinaurics aka "Silver People"
    02:58 - The Silver Peoples' Impact
    03:26 - Albinaurics & Silver Tears
    06:18 - Cut Origins?
    07:37 - The Grace of Silver
    08:52 - Soap & Filth
    09:44 - The False Night's Origins
    11:44 - Celestial Dew
    13:13 - Darkness, the Primeval Current, and Fate
    15:34 - The Sun, the Moon, and the Eclipse
    16:36 - The Nox, Wandering Mausoleums, and Death
    17:39 - The Black Moon and the Cuckoo
    19:12 - The Grim Art of Reincarnation
    22:00 - Perfect Rebirth & Smithing Stones
    23:21 - Smithing Stones, Drained of Color
    25:04 - Memories, Runes, Silver Tears, and Dragons
    27:41 - The Dragonkin, Gravel Stones, and Ice Lightning
    28:24 - Lightning, Life, and Gold
    29:00 - The Regalia of Eochaid Discrepancy
    30:18 - Red Lightning & Unalloyed Gold
    31:15 - Life, Unalloyed Gold, and the Will
    32:44 - The Will & Those Who Live in Death
    34:05 - Millicent, Malenia, the Will, and Unalloyed Gold
    35:26 - The Will and Despair
    38:51 - Gold and the Power to Retain One's Will
    40:48 - Blood, Shadows, Gold, and the Will
    42:12 - The Puppet with a Frail, Gentle Heart
    42:47 - The Puppets of the Two Fingers
    43:33 - The Two Fingers, Night, and Shadows
    44:50 - Two Fingers, Five Fingers, Light, Intelligence, and the Seat of the Sun
    46:36 - Tying it All Together
    47:37 - Destined Death and Ghostflame
    48:31 - Red, White, and Blue: A Color Theory
    49:30 - Cut Colors and Interesting Implications
    50:57 - The Sun, the Moon, and Eclipse Part 2: Cosmic Boogaloo
    53:08 - Spirits, Bodies, Emotions, Death, and Curses
    54:07 - The Helphen
    55:44 - Fire and the Cycle of Life and Death
    57:11 - Fire and the Immutability of the Soul and Will
    58:41 - The Cursed and the Omen
    1:00:42 - Varre, Mohg, Miquella, and the Love for Accursed Blood
    1:02:44 - The Power of Love
    1:03:35 - The Pains of Love
    1:04:38 - The Bloodsoaked Madness' Allure
    1:05:57 - Do As I Say, Not As I Do
    1:07:44 - Ruinous Yearning
    1:10:49 - Power's Yearning to Converge
    1:11:32 - The Pinnacle of Willpower
    1:13:12 - Silver and Gold; Life and Death
    1:13:53 - Closing Statements
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Комментарии • 134

  • @rika8484
    @rika8484 Год назад +209

    "I don't want to get bogged down in the details." - the content creator I turn to for details

    • @LastProtagonist
      @LastProtagonist  Год назад +70

      F

    • @Cman04092
      @Cman04092 Год назад +4

      Tbf i think he ment he didnt wanna get off in the weeds over every little detail, because this is very detailed imo.

    • @sancoribero
      @sancoribero Год назад

      "Don't want to" is different than "not going to."

  • @jeftecoutinho
    @jeftecoutinho Год назад +83

    27:50 I like to think that the Ancient Dragons freeze lightning in TIME to wield it.
    But the Dragonkin Soldiers can't replicate this time-freezing ability, so they use ice magic to freeze lightning in place in order to wield it.

  • @garbagecan755
    @garbagecan755 Год назад +40

    In regards to the Mausoleum Knights and their headlessness, the game makes it fairly clear that the powers of the Lands Between (The Frenzied Flame, The Grace of the Greater Will, the Cursed Blood of the Formless Mother) gathers within the eyes. Our eyes change color and shape when we join the Frenzied Flame or Mohg's Covenants, or when we devour too many dragon hearts, and loose Grace gathers within the eye sockets of skulls strewn about the lands, as well as creatures with abundant Grace having it literally spilling from their eyes. The Mausoleum Knights cutting off their heads essentially removes the ability of any force to control them likely literally "tieing them to the land" by removing their ability to be reborn. It literally "Drains the Color" from them as the eclipse does the sun, with the Color being synonymous with the different powers of the Lands Between. To further connect this with the obvious Celtic influence of the Lands Between as the Celts believed the HEAD was where the soul was kept specifically.
    Also, to further connect Renalla's rebirthing to the Nox and the Albinaurics: All of her sweetings suffer the same curse the first generation Albinaurics do. Their legs are withered and they cannot walk.

  • @tropezando
    @tropezando Год назад +60

    Albinauric silvery blood and the Nox/ Silver Tears have more to do with liquid silver, aka quicksilver, aka _argentum vivum_ (living silver) - mercury. Mercury mixed with tin was used on the back of mirrors, and was called quicksilvering. It makes sense that a silver liquid metal associated with mirrors and life in our world would be the thing used to iterate and emulate life in Elden Ring.

  • @AssailantLF
    @AssailantLF Год назад +25

    46:13 I don't think that's "Blaidd as the Baleful Shadow." The Baleful Shadow is a completely separate entity from Blaidd, probably just like the one who's mask we find near Seluvis's Rise. This is to trick Ranni into a false sense of security, or to make her feel bad from her bond with Blaidd, or to show how beastmen are used as tools (whether that be as shadows for empyreans or as assassins) of the Two Fingers. Honestly I think From probably reused Blaidd's model for convenience rather than making a unique Baleful Shadow, similar to how Godefroy reuses Godfrick's model.
    That's why we fight Blaidd after the whole quest is finished at Ranni's rise. He doesn't know that she left her tower, so he went there looking for her (probably while resisting his urge to kill her) and that's when we find him.

  • @sidu3099
    @sidu3099 Год назад +11

    Nice, the last protagonist strikes again!

  • @Sinhsseax
    @Sinhsseax Год назад +25

    Regarding how the Nox imagined Mimicry could create a lord at 3:54:
    I heard a theory somewhere that they did succeed and that Radagon is a mimic of Marika.
    Mimicing the current god would indeed create a being powerful enough to be a lord.
    And the line referencing that a mimic does not imitate the summoners will seems like a great clue to Radagon fighting with Marika over destroying/repairing the Elden Ring.

    • @Zifzi
      @Zifzi Год назад +10

      The Radagon Silver Tear theory gets even better if you consider the cut Asimi Questline. In that quest, Asimi wishes to be a monarch eternal with you as her lord.
      What if Marika/Radagon are similar? It’s possible that Marika, not Radagon, is the mimic tear, and that Radagon is the original lord forced to serve the mimic.

    • @gibbysplendid3725
      @gibbysplendid3725 Год назад +6

      @@Zifzi Marika’s veil does indeed imply someone who hides her true form.

    • @rewerstfd
      @rewerstfd Год назад +1

      I haven't heard of that theory but I'm m pretty sure the player character is an empty albanauric/mimic, being possessed by Miquella. Which explaines why your character can use Larval Tears to respec and even change form without negative effects. When gnoc tries it, it changes his form but it makes him brain dead. You don't become brain dead because you're already a husk that is being driven by miquella's spirit, similarly to Renna and her puppet body. It also explains why everyone likes you.
      AngelOfThePast has a fantastic video on that, along with other pretty good theories regarding the story.

    • @voraito
      @voraito Год назад +7

      @@rewerstfd that's making a LOT of assumptions when the simpler explanation is that the great rune of the unborn is what's required for perfect rebirth

    • @Thegeobot
      @Thegeobot Год назад

      @@rewerstfd THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE, Boc the seamster is no mimic, he gets reborn anew just like you, Also Seluvis does not like you, and Gostoc lies to you to get you killed and still from you, you can be reborn without negative effects because you have The Rune of the unborn, from Renala herself, go do your homework please.

  • @geordiejones5618
    @geordiejones5618 Год назад +4

    You're added to my encyclopedia of Smoughtown, Honored Madman, Tarnished Archaeologist, Quelaag, Hawkshaw and Crunchy for Elden Ring worldbuilding/context. Love you all.

    • @KingSleaze916
      @KingSleaze916 19 дней назад

      I listen to them too besides Honored madman & Quelaag. I’ll check them out though

  • @danielrhodes548
    @danielrhodes548 Год назад +35

    At 34:45 discussing the Unalloyed Gold Needle.
    It would seem gold is the catalyst on or through which one’s will is projected. Unalloyed or pure gold would mean a clean slate, unaffected by any other’s hue. (Red Gold, etc) Runes that dictate the nature of our souls are shards of gold, and so with the Unalloyed needle, we replace the Will of the Frenzied flame possessing us and start over a blank slate.

    • @Photoloss
      @Photoloss Год назад +6

      However Miquella's Needle *is not* the Unalloyed Gold Needle. It's not just a hue change, their shapes are different with Miquella's having a pronounced double helix design while the Unalloyed Gold Needle only has hints of it with rows of barbs lining it instead. I think the more plausible interpretation is that we "trade" with Malenia's flower form, completing Millicent's quest to return her willpower and in return we receive a ward against the one corrupting force which can outright overcome _our_ will. After all with how Shabriri and Hyetta are possessed and our own head bursting into flame the Lord of Frenzied Flame ending is the only one where it could be argued "we" as a person do not become lord as the Frenzied Flame takes over instead.
      As for Unalloyed Gold in general and given Miquella's motivations and other works I think you're pretty close, except instead of simply "being pure" (which the Golden Order also claims to be tbh) it is designed as an active ward against anything beyond the natural order of the world. That would allow it to "fix" Malenia, Godwyn/Those Who Live In Death, the Frenzied Flame and possibly even Miquella's own form if it is tied to a blood curse or something similar.

  • @drunken-master7904
    @drunken-master7904 Год назад +8

    Thx for the video. Ants cultivate mushrooms in the real world. The purpose is food or to strength the structure of their hives. There exist a lot of glowing mushrooms and Ants prefer to build there hives under trees especially the red one wich remindes me on typical forest Ants. They chose often trees for theire rootstructure because the earth is not soft thanks to the roots. Tunnels are more stabile this way. The roots are often then cultivated with different kind of mushrooms. The question somone should ask wich kind of light length are possible that Plants can grow underground absent from the rich spectrum of the Sunlight. Its really sad for me that a lot of lore hunter don't look into botanic because a lot of the elden ring themes have to do with plants. Like the jarpeople or why they play music to the plants.

  • @gustavonomegrande
    @gustavonomegrande Год назад +10

    Despair inviting outer gods is exactly what happened to Griffith as he summoned the Eclipse.
    Miyazaki once again making homage to Miura.

  • @Stuffystufferfield
    @Stuffystufferfield Год назад +10

    Maybe someday I’ll learn why the snails are immortal and can summon crystalians

  • @Night-Lord
    @Night-Lord Год назад +4

    An important note on ghostflame is that is formed by burning bones. I argue the difference between it and the BFoDD is that the ghostflame comes from dead things, while the BFoDD is conceptual. It is the very concept of death, while ghostflame is simply fueled by dead things

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 Год назад +8

    It blows my mind how many interpretations Elden Ring accommodates. Blood, emotions, color, precious metals, liminal spaces, they are all mixed up and sometimes contradict one another. Are ancient dragons associated with gold because they are powerful, or does gold literally grant power?

  • @RosemaryTravale
    @RosemaryTravale Год назад +3

    Was not expecting a Super Troopers joke in there, bless you hah

  • @platypuspracticus2
    @platypuspracticus2 Год назад +4

    45:45 From The Great Kenneth Haight: "...under the Erdtree, commingling with the demi-humans is made possible." So maybe the fingers play a part in influencing the ability to commingle and Kenny doesn't know it or fully understand that aspect?

  • @SinclairLore
    @SinclairLore Год назад +13

    🎉

  • @Morraak
    @Morraak Год назад +8

    Your channel is so underrated. I think you're onto something with your interpretation of gold.

  • @AshuraRC
    @AshuraRC Год назад +4

    Probably the best lore channel for Elden Ring hands down

  • @Sohelanthropus
    @Sohelanthropus Год назад +7

    It's that time of the month again boys

  • @Slender_Man_186
    @Slender_Man_186 Год назад +2

    9:50 you can find a bunch of glintstone crystals poking through the ceiling of the Lake of Rot, they can best be seen from an overlook near the Ainsel River Downstream site of grace, right next to Nokstella. As for Nokron, the Siofra River runs right under Caelid, Mohgwyn Palace specifically is right under Sellia, which has the nearby Sellia Crystal Tunnel and Sellia Hideaway, both of which are full of glintstone crystals.
    As for the Nameless Eternal City, it’s night sky was stolen by Astel.

  • @humblegamer7876
    @humblegamer7876 Год назад +7

    I like the way you handle translations.
    There's some other popular souls content creators that just say 'the Japanese says' and then never speak Japanese, compare descriptions or show the Japanese characters or words they're talking about so we just have to trust they know some secret hour long story from one item description lol

  • @genesischaparro8954
    @genesischaparro8954 Год назад +2

    Of course Miquella's unalloyed gold would be associated with willpower, and him being the Unalloyed is very fitting. He invented offensive incantations, grew a second erdtree, and even looked to sever the connection to outer gods, all because he had the reason and therefore the will to do it. All hail Miquella

  • @t-mango2491
    @t-mango2491 Год назад +6

    Also!! I have to suggest as far as rebirth goes, perhaps that directly relates to why the shattering happened, that godwyn was slain, and due to rebirth being a crime in the eyes of the golden order, marika realized that she created the very order that stopped his return, and attempted to shatter the order she created that made her son’s perfect resurrection illegal, and miquella’s assumed attempt to bring godwyn back via the eclipse that failed, was what made miquella realize the golden order’s fundamentalism couldn’t help him, for if marika’s order wouldn’t allow the rebirth of her own dear lost son, why would malenia be spared her rot?

  • @pieoverlord
    @pieoverlord Год назад +3

    Ah, I see, so the Twinbird god of the Death Birds is actually Ho-oh AND Lugia, yes, it all becomes clear....

  • @sk8legendz
    @sk8legendz Год назад +1

    One of my favorite lore videos for sure.
    This was a variety box of lore and really well put together.

  • @lovesiriusblack
    @lovesiriusblack Год назад +4

    I wonder if astronomy can help you further in your theory of light being equivalent to life? Things to draw inspiration from: the spectra from the moon is the same as the sun, electromagnetic spectra and the properties of photons, The Rayleigh Scattering, doppler effect of astral objects, how light is "waves" and how Thomas Young first used water to understand this concept.
    Love the video.

  • @TheNeokiller666
    @TheNeokiller666 Год назад +4

    Its interesting how the concept of Will or losing will is similar to humanity and hollowing. Also the therm Greater will could have some interesting implications

  • @nytmaire74
    @nytmaire74 11 месяцев назад +1

    0:11 "we'll examine silver and gold"
    WONT SAVE MY ROTTING SOUL
    wait no wrong game but also kinda fits

  • @jacobh2629
    @jacobh2629 Год назад +11

    I would really really love it if you made an in depth video discussing the changes in version 1.00. I played through on the disk version and I was amazed at how different it is.

    • @jacobh2629
      @jacobh2629 Год назад +5

      There's so many broken mechanics and cut/different items.

    • @LastProtagonist
      @LastProtagonist  Год назад +12

      I was considering streaming a playthrough of 1.00 to highlight some of the differences

    • @KickieB
      @KickieB Год назад +3

      @@LastProtagonist that would be very interesting! please upload the vod if you do!

    • @LastProtagonist
      @LastProtagonist  Год назад +1

      @@KickieB No worries, they would be!

    • @jacobh2629
      @jacobh2629 Год назад +3

      @Last Protagonist that would be really interesting, there's a youtuber making videos about 1.00 and I think your take would be fun to watch
      Edit: his name is bertoplease

  • @t-mango2491
    @t-mango2491 Год назад +7

    This video is awesome, let me first state, generation 2 albanaurics do speak, it’s an extremely hushed whisper, and they say things like “punish every living thing” (look it up it’s very hard to hear unless isolated) and that’s actually in retail, which may be why thops’ line was cut from the game, when it comes to the Albanaurics at large? I believe there’s a basin somewhere, probably once existed within the nameless eternal city, or perhaps quite literally is the fluid we walk in, but this silver basin, it’s like an anti crucible, while the crucible sprouts unchecked life, this silver crucible spouts unchecked life as well, but not of the same source, and it’s also very odd to notice that the golden order seeks to control, yet this would allow one to create controlled life, and maybe that’s why it was a good enough weapon to challenge them, a power to rival their own, a power of creation, which may also explain a timeline of the Nox, placing them after gransax’s attack on lleyendell, and each of the creatures they made were in response to the creatures the greater will pitted them against, copying their trolls and soldiers with mimic tears, making “pale imitations” of the dragons, perhaps in mockery of the religion or as an effort to counter the draconic tree sentinels, the fingerslayer blade to crush their envoys, and perhaps the albanaurics arent guided by grace, but the red grace of the helphin, as the mausoleum knights connection to the nox opens potential connection between the nox and helphin steeple

    • @crowstakingoff
      @crowstakingoff Год назад

      I think the Albinaurics who say that are the human-looking ones though, right?

    • @t-mango2491
      @t-mango2491 Год назад +1

      @@crowstakingoff they’re the frog men

    • @crowstakingoff
      @crowstakingoff Год назад +1

      @@t-mango2491 Maybe you could point me to where this is then? Cause I'm reasonably certain it's only the old man albinaurics who say this. I remember them whispering this in the village of the albinaurics, but it's only the humanoid ones there.

  • @mirceanicula9198
    @mirceanicula9198 Год назад +2

    The idea that faith is governed by the stars or that someone's destiny is written in the stars is an old quote by a roman nobleman and it is used in the literary works of Shakespeare.

  • @DizzyEyes94
    @DizzyEyes94 Год назад +2

    Nice touch using the madman's knowledge icon for your spoiler warning~

  • @M00nSlippers
    @M00nSlippers Год назад +8

    I don't think the Nox made Albinaurics, the Sorcerors did trying to recreate their techniques.

  • @SaintHierophant
    @SaintHierophant Год назад +2

    Incredible work, and still the reigning king of deep Souls lore.

  • @crowstakingoff
    @crowstakingoff Год назад +5

    So many good points in this. I was really impressed by your observations on the gash running down the deathbirds, gold representing will, and the screaming bodies potentially living in death. Maybe this is why the bodies are completely motionless? I thought this just an example of the animation not keeping up with the voice acting, but now it seems like it could be intentional. Some of those who live in death, like Godwyn, are motionless. Also, if Melina has a Twinbird mark on her eye, would this make her a paradoxical "third twin" to Miquella and Malenia?

    • @TheKinginRed
      @TheKinginRed Год назад +1

      There is a theory that i was thinking about and I think it's in ziostorms video as well, but Melania has butterfly wings and the aeonian butterfly represents her. The nascent butterfly is eternally young and looks like it still has pieces of silk on it, very reminiscent if miquella and I would say resembles him. The last type of butterfly we can find is the smoldering butterfly, and melina is referred to as the kindling maiden, and she tells us she is "burnt and bodyless". She then later uses herself as kindling to burn the erdtree.

    • @trisbane4086
      @trisbane4086 10 месяцев назад

      @@TheKinginRed Nice, that's definitely the biggest piece of evidence supporting Melina being the third child of Marika and Radagon. Other things include: of the main characters, Marika's offspring all come in threes, so Malenia and Miquella were missing a third. And also all children born of Radagon and Marika had defects - Malenia's rot, Miquella's youth. Melina's defect would then be that she was born bodiless, or maybe born burning or something.

  • @dandrummond9154
    @dandrummond9154 Год назад +1

    I said this somewhere else, but fire is a lot easier to understand in the context of the game if you think of it like blood in Bloodborne. It is a medium through which power can be expressed, but the actual fire part of the flame is not controlled by a deity. Even the giants use the "Flame of the Fell God" not fire. It just so happens that he's the red guy, and fire being red, we assume he owns all fire since all fire is red that is not owned by somebody else.

  • @Supercohboy
    @Supercohboy Год назад +1

    7:50 Philosophically, I also think that this is the story writers mirroring their concerns with how humanity may treat artificial life. In Elden Ring, the Albinaurics are said to be cut off from the Erdtree (the natural way of things) and thus are said to live impure lives. I'm unsure, but "impure" may be more analogous to "amoral", if that's not simply a better word to use in its place. I can only speculate, but a modern concern with the possibility of AI coming into consciousness somehow, or some other form of artificial life being created, is that computer-driven thoughts aren't built off of biological instinct. They don't feel, and they aren't biased by their emotions or some moral conscience.
    Maybe I'm overthinking it, but if this was the writers' intent, then I really like how they managed to take what's usually a sci-fi talking point and make it work within a medieval/magical framework. And they did it without resorting to automatons or metal men (since the mannequin soldiers literally are the automatons in the ER world, not the Albinaurics) who are just living suits of armor. This little detail is one that I really appreciate in the lore.

  • @ctyoro5086
    @ctyoro5086 Год назад +1

    Wow Malenia breaking Miquella's needle in that fight with Radahn makes a lot of sense and would answer the question of what exactly she's doing in that moment

  • @solaireflair2815
    @solaireflair2815 Год назад +2

    I assumed that the reason why the Elden Beast looks like a dragon is because the Elden Beast is the building block for all life in the Lands Between. Everything was conjoined and mishmashed as the One Great until the Elden Beast was sent into the Lands Between, turning the One Great into the Crucible which created diversity in life. Some of the very first life forms were the ancient dragons, since the dragons are often used as analogues to dinosaurs in FromSoftware’s games. This could also explain why certain other creatures that are connected to the Crucible, such as the Crucible Knights, the Misbegotten, and the Omen share some draconic qualities.

  • @psevdhome
    @psevdhome Год назад +1

    I think the albinauric ant connection is correct. We just tend to think of them as frogs because we first see them in water in Liurnia. Water-frogs. But I think the implied generations of the albinaurics also hint at them being more like eusocial insects like ants wasps or bees: they spawn in generations, not from a single female spawning them one by one, but communally hatched in generations, just like these insects. They have a short life span as these types of insects usually do, less than a year in cold climates where the drones and workers cannot survive over the winter. They seem to have gendered divides like eusocial insects as well: the females are workers and warriors and the males seem to be useless like in some eusocial insects. It seems Latenna's sister is being turned into a "new queen" in her quest, as she is given a birthing droplet to make new albinaurics. Just like eusocial insects get royal jelly to become new birthing queens so their hormones will make them sexually mature. Maybe albinaurics are supposed to have wings? It would explain why their legs fall apart: they aren't supposed to use them as much as they are so they deteriorate too soon.

  • @magisterludi4347
    @magisterludi4347 Год назад +1

    amazing one of the best elden ring videos out there! def gonna end up watching this a few times.

  • @Parrisnights
    @Parrisnights Год назад +1

    I think this is a great way to cover Elden Ring and I appreciate how you improve your content with every post. Well done!

  • @scotshabalam2432
    @scotshabalam2432 Год назад +2

    21:10 rebirth is forbidden because they're using the souls of the dead to forestall the weakening of the Erd tree as fuel but officially it's because "rebirth though means other than the Erd tree lacks holy grace".

  • @ciriknockoff5738
    @ciriknockoff5738 Год назад +1

    Another stellar video! You are seriously one of my favorite Fromsoft Lore channels

  • @lexmortis5722
    @lexmortis5722 4 месяца назад +1

    The Numen and Albanaurics are the same concepts, but one for gold and one for silver. They share a lot of the whole "seldom born, deficits and differences between men and women". The crucibles knights probably are male Numen.
    Probably one of the most important lore videos I have seen, your arguments on the division of souls, wills and bodies enlarged my understanding of the games lore, my headcanon is improved

  • @LexIconLS
    @LexIconLS Год назад +1

    Could it be possible that the Helphen Tree was one of the branches that grew out of the Crucible, but was "cut away" when the Erd Tree became the dominant trunk? Tarnished Archeologist makes a lot of really good points about botany and the irl aspects of plant grafting that I think are really well-founded.

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 4 месяца назад

    When it says drained of color. I think back to Hawkshaw's color theory video. The implication being that gold is a refinement of brown, and brown is a mix of every color.

  • @GexTendies
    @GexTendies Год назад +2

    Good stuff, loving this long ass vid

  • @aaronsalinas3854
    @aaronsalinas3854 8 месяцев назад +1

    The lorr states when they were put down there, there were granted a false night sky. I think to mock them saying you will never get your story told like how ranni needs the stars. Something like that it's states. And astel took the night sky from the city he destroyed

  • @_ariosto1519
    @_ariosto1519 Год назад +5

    Thank you! 🙏🏾

  • @darthironhand4353
    @darthironhand4353 Год назад +1

    My take on the origin of the albinaurics is that they were created by the academy, but using a ritual inspired by/taken from the Nox. This would explain why they're less advanced than the silver tears in terms of their abilities at mockery. And further explains why they are killed- they are failed experiments at replicating the power of silver tears.

  • @deic1d3
    @deic1d3 Год назад +2

    Thanks bro! Great video, I actually learned a lot from you!

  • @Xandros999
    @Xandros999 Год назад +3

    I have a nit to pick. The mausoleum knights don't need to be protected from Destined Death nor are the wandering mausoleums meant to protect from Destined Death. Destined Death does not render one soulless; Under normal circumstances it just kills you. Godwyn is in a very unique position of despite being soulless having been taken into the Erdtree, giving rise to some undead problems (I don't actually know in how large part it's Godwyn and how much it's the Golden order or those combined, but anyway, Destined Death just happened to make him First of the Dead.
    So no one else needs protection from Destined Death (Don't f with Marika lololol). The Mausoleum seems to be meant to protect the soulless demigods from coming into contact with the Erdtree, with all the benefit of hindsight. The mausoleum knights while not soulless are also cursed to not become part of the Erdtree and it is this curse with which they imbue their weapons and that allows them to serve for all time. I think they behead themselves to enter this cursed state.
    OK so why are the other demigods soulless if Godwyn became soulless because Ranni hacked the ritual? I don't know! I would assume those were also killed in the night of the black knives.

  • @doyltruddy902
    @doyltruddy902 Год назад +1

    This is a great video. You are good at analyzing themes in stories.

  • @dancreary3340
    @dancreary3340 Год назад +1

    Top tier, as usual.

  • @briankay3146
    @briankay3146 Год назад +1

    Curious that the Erdtree in it's era of abundance produced "golden tears" which were important for birthing people who are blessed with grace when people were still being born and the world was not a stagnant hellscape. Silver is always second place to gold and the Nox are an older and displaced religion that seems to be jealous of the golden order and wants to imitate and achieve what the Golden Order/Greater has.

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb9821 10 месяцев назад +1

    I still don't think there was a tree before Marika. Or at least not when they were starting out.

  • @DizzyEyes94
    @DizzyEyes94 Год назад +1

    Jesus Christ... 🙄 The 'pale gold shadows' emitted by shadow lure are a site of grace/humanity sprite. I love FromSoft's consistency.

  • @berylman
    @berylman Год назад +2

    Great lore video!

  • @jackreacher7495
    @jackreacher7495 Год назад +1

    Idk if this is interesting to you, but the Frenzied Flame Mirandas are also found in Ainsel, right after you pick up the Ranni doll

  • @desenhoerpg
    @desenhoerpg Год назад +3

    Nice work. Love it.

  • @DustDemonTwilight
    @DustDemonTwilight Год назад +1

    i think you are on to something with the black moon and the eclipse

  • @liamcurtis9634
    @liamcurtis9634 Год назад +1

    The ants and mimics both have face shields

  • @iodine9250
    @iodine9250 Год назад +3

    Amazing content!!

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Год назад +1

    Starting with a conclusion and trying to find supporting evidence is literally how science is done every day. Not the scientific method, actual science, paid for by corporations or grants. It’s the foundation of our modern economy and the basis for everything we hold to be important or relevant.

    • @Caseyuptobat
      @Caseyuptobat Год назад +2

      Sounds less like Science and more like corporate R&D.

  • @Cman04092
    @Cman04092 Год назад +1

    Wait, an hour+ lore video about Elden Ring has spoilers in it? *gasp* Color me shocked!

  • @alecolson8360
    @alecolson8360 Год назад +1

    Holy crap this is great

  • @MetalFingerzz
    @MetalFingerzz Год назад

    Small note about the regalia of eochaid’s copper colouration: you say the kanji used in the japanese text is outdated for the sake of reinterpretation; but the english version of the game uses “gaol” and instead of “jail”. I take this to mean the writers intentionally use old language to sell the fantasy setting.

  • @fayelawless2625
    @fayelawless2625 Год назад +1

    does white-graying hair like the two fingers has indicate influence of the two fingers like the base of the two fingers with mushrooms indicates it has influence via rot

  • @Kjas11
    @Kjas11 Год назад +1

    Thank you for making such awesome videos

  • @swamashijudbedolofritt4448
    @swamashijudbedolofritt4448 Год назад +1

    The nameless city under leyndell reminds me of light pollution. Like it's under the Erdtree and thus we can't see the stars og glimtstones. I don't know. Maybe

  • @snoopham123
    @snoopham123 Год назад +1

    Here is a off-topic Q... 🙂
    Why is Godricks and Morgott' great runes both called the anchor rune of the Elden Ring...? 🤔🙂🇩🇰

  • @darinarnold6976
    @darinarnold6976 Год назад +2

    It would have been 10/10 hilarious if they had called the them Argentines instead of Albinaurics

  • @fayelawless2625
    @fayelawless2625 Год назад +1

    you have a great cadence :)

  • @tarenmauga9582
    @tarenmauga9582 Год назад +1

    Always quality content

  • @aidenfuhrman8579
    @aidenfuhrman8579 8 месяцев назад

    Doesn’t it make more sense that Ronnie took a hit out on herself and Godwin, because it doesn’t make sense for her to carve that symbol into her own back. I guess I’m just saying that doesn’t seem possible for a human to bend like that.

  • @arthurdossantos6826
    @arthurdossantos6826 Год назад +5

    I thought the design of the Elden Beast was just a reference to Datatsushi from Forbidden Siren

    • @LastProtagonist
      @LastProtagonist  Год назад +4

      Haven't heard of this before! I'll need to look into it

    • @arthurdossantos6826
      @arthurdossantos6826 Год назад +2

      @@LastProtagonist Siren was inspired by a Japanese movie which adapted Shadow over Innsmouth to a Japanese setting. The story of the Fishing Hamlet in Bloodborne is almost identical to the first Siren game. Not to mention the design philosophy of Siren is extremely similar to the Soul Series': both are difficult games that expect us to piece together a puzzle and cooperate online with others to understand the story. I thought it was a coincidence at first with Bloodborne, but there are too many similarities between Siren and Elden Ring for it to be just a coincidence, I think.

  • @netocock
    @netocock Год назад +1

    Awesome work.

  • @hawkwood9257
    @hawkwood9257 Год назад +2

    I missed You.

  • @KingUniverso
    @KingUniverso Год назад +2

    so the missing sun is hidden behind the dark moon at the start of the story?? that would explain why that one ghost is mourning the failed eclipse plan, implying the eclipse already happened/is still happening??

  • @greenfrogbad
    @greenfrogbad Год назад +1

    The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!

  • @movespammerguyteam7colors
    @movespammerguyteam7colors Год назад +1

    I figured that Albinauric referred to the Albino condition in real life. Though I figured the creators added frog traits to the second generation Albinaurics to help keep their legs and make them stronger than the first generation Albinaurics.

  • @dilbrobaggin3723
    @dilbrobaggin3723 Год назад +1

    Nice

  • @fightstance
    @fightstance Год назад

    My man, you read it wrong. The blue silver chainmail armor doesn't state that its born from the same METAL but from the same MOTHER. Could mean other implications. :)

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Год назад +2

    Honestly the Erdtree in the game doesn’t even appear to be real, it seems like Goldfrey, a projection by the Greater Will because the original was burned by the Black Flame of the Godskin apostasy. You see the small wooden section and the roots are still there, but the rest has been destroyed.

  • @SaintTrinaLore
    @SaintTrinaLore Год назад +1

    It's ah Mastahpiece! And I think you should trust one or two more of your conspiracy takes especially about godwyn! (But I'm sure you're not surprised to hear me say that :p )

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Год назад +2

    Gold is bad for the Greater Will as it weakens it’s ability to manifest its desire in the world. That’s why Leyndell’s rooftiles and statues are painted gold instead of being made out of it.

  • @blumiu2426
    @blumiu2426 Год назад +1

    Where is this thing about Mog doing something with Miquella stemming from?

    • @LastProtagonist
      @LastProtagonist  Год назад

      His remembrance: "Wishing to raise Miquella to full godhood, Mohg wished to become his consort, taking the role of monarch. But no matter how much of his bloody bedchamber he tried to share, he received no response from the young Empyrean."

    • @blumiu2426
      @blumiu2426 Год назад +2

      ​@@LastProtagonist So how does it read in the Japanese? A consort can be a concubine of sorts or companion, partner. It would be very bizarre and raises the question why add something like that. It also makes it confusing that Mog wouldn't understand removing him from the tree interrupted something taking place, whether he knew exactly or not.
      If he wanted him to use for his power and create a new kingdom, where did the sexual part come from? With someone stuck in a child's body that is comatose? Also he's in a cocoon, so is it being figurative or talking about something that happened in the past?
      The rape of a perpetual child only seems to add shock factor unless it serves a purpose to the characters or lore. Then again, maybe Miyazaki went in deep with the occult on this one. There are practices, the darker ones, where specifically the violation of boys through rectum, a chakra points (?), it has a specific name I can't spell, that is supposed to bring youth and energy to the initiator.
      Man, after all that time and Milania never found him, just sat at the tree. I'd hate to say she failed him.

  • @g3g3n
    @g3g3n 11 месяцев назад

    What is the armor you are wearing (for example at 1:30)? I keep seeing it in many YT videos but I'm now entering Leyndell and still havent found it.

    • @LastProtagonist
      @LastProtagonist  11 месяцев назад

      It's the altered Raging Wolf set from completing Volcano Manor's quests

    • @g3g3n
      @g3g3n 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@LastProtagonist Ah, thank you! So I'm not so far from obtaining it

  • @muramasa870
    @muramasa870 Год назад +2

    31:15 Red gold is basically gold nano particle. So the true color of gold is red

    • @Photoloss
      @Photoloss Год назад +2

      Nah RL physics is way too complex to assign something like a "true colour". The closest you'll get is spectra, but those already differ between single atoms and 2-atom molecules of the same element. And the reflective sheen of metals is a larger-scale phenomenon which doesn't even produce sharp line spectra like atoms do, but still has distinct structure. At the accuracy of human eyesight you also have several other mechanisms to produce colours and reflective properties such as thin films, refractive index changes or polarisation in combination with a black body light source (e.g. most of the light from the sun or incandescent bulbs) even though the implements used appear in a different colour otherwise like soap bubbles or glass prisms.

  • @29mech
    @29mech Год назад

    On the topic of blaidd the two fingers never actually control him. the baleful shadow is not blaidd, it is an apparition (or possibly even a black knife assassin) that is sent in the form of blaidd to attack and crush the will of ranni. When you actually fight blaidd back at rannis rise he is not there to hunt ranni rather he is in a blind rage attacking both friend and foe. The two fingers couldn't control his will rather they corrupted his mind.

  • @gustavonomegrande
    @gustavonomegrande Год назад +1

    What if the Twinbird has some sort of deal with Renna and Melina? Ranni body was made in the form of Renna, the Snow witch, and Melina wants to burn away along with the Erdtree. Fire and Snow, Life and Death. Maybe the outer god whose the Twinbird is an envoy of is the God of Duality or Disparity, linking to the disparity of the first flame of Dark Souls.

  • @JMoore-vo7ii
    @JMoore-vo7ii Год назад +2

    Yurrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • @blackeddeath
    @blackeddeath 2 месяца назад +1

    According to soap

  • @Hugo_Tate
    @Hugo_Tate 15 дней назад

    Godwyn isn’t ranni’s brother

  • @dandrummond9154
    @dandrummond9154 Год назад

    Is the Beastman's Jarshield translated properly? Assuming it was translated properly, the statement is obviously false and it is not worded as conjecture. No rational archaeologist would ever make that statement. Nobody makes a gd amphora, breaks it, and then uses it as a shield as their shield making strategy. The statement's only function is to make all item descriptions unreliable because obviously the game doesn't obfuscate well enough with a single trustworthy source of vagaries.

    • @LastProtagonist
      @LastProtagonist  Год назад

      Yes, it is translated properly. However, you end up shooting yourself in the foot if you disregard even one description (that's not written as hearsay) since it opens a path to a slippery slope in that any passage can be disregarded. With the Jar-Shield emphasizing it's a strange way of doing things, it's pretty straightforward.

  • @AssailantLF
    @AssailantLF 10 месяцев назад

    Man your videos are so good with such interesting ideas and observations, but the way you read your script with such a weird overly deliberate cadence is really off-putting. Compare these scripted videos to the live streams where you sound like a normal person. Sorry if that comes off as rude, it's just really hard to not notice and get distracted by for me.

  • @gagemcmahon9485
    @gagemcmahon9485 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video mate loved every second