@@henrikrdstherchristie9553 I think he meant that they should have had more fame that they ever got. One of the best bands in the 1980s but the clash with Trevor Horn ruined their world domination.
In meiner Jugend war das eines meiner Lieblingslieder. Welch eine Hammer Neuauflage!!!Ich bin hin und weg und fühle mich wieder wie im besten Jahrzehnt,das ich erleben durfte. Danke fürs einstellen!!!
Imagine this: if Trevor Horn and ZTT Records focused more on Propaganda instead of Frankie Goes To Hollywood, didn't have that ridiculous contract with them, had a standard contract with them, the lawsuit never happened, Propaganda didn't break up, and they continued with their core/awesome lineup throughout the 80's and 90's. I wonder how badass and amazing they could have been. One can only wonder /:
They would have had a couple of fantastic albums, then would have struggled to keep the momentum going. It would have been hard to follow up an album as perfect as this. Their influence would have been broader musically plus their influence would have downplayed the rise of the stockaitken& Waterman sound that ruined the latter half of the 80's.
Interesting perspective. Trevor is an amazing producer and artists but he was pushing the edge of authoritarianism at that stage of his career. Holly Johnson rightfully pushed back and rejected his fascist overdetermination, just as Mark Hollis (Talk Talk) did with his producers. At the end of the day, the artist must speak. It's their voice. Trevor augmented Yes, Seal, Frankie and so many to such an incredible degree but he couldn't restrain his zeal. He ended up destroying most of those relationships. Even with Propaganda, he neglected them then obsessed and then... it was a mess. I wish that Trevor was raised with a worldview that wasn't exclusively capitalist-libertarian exploitative. If you know what Frankie, Propaganda and the rest sing about, it's leftist emancipatory worldview. Trevor's right-wing capitalist artist colonialism just ensured he would never be able to collaborate with these artists to reach even greater levels. That said, everything they collaborated on was astounding. Many of our lives are impacted by these songs. Thank you to all of them.
I'm going to play devil's advocate - the album has three killer singles and "Dream Within a Dream". Take them away and it's very slight, although it all sounds wonderful. They didn't have enough material for a whole album and would have struggled to follow it up no matter what happened.
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20 years later and they even sound better. What a timeless piece. What a mastermind production.
In my top 5 albums of ALL TIMES.... phenominal musicality, geniusly orchestrated and briljant interludes... goose bump understated vocals... they blew me away in 1984... and they bloody hell still do... what a waste.... and what a gift this one gem.
Correctly it would be "Kein zurück für dich" ;-). BTW, do you also recognize 3:32: "Spieglein, Spieglein an der Wand, wer ist die Schönste im ganzen Land." -> Schneewittchen
It took me 40 years to understand this line - and I am german and I didn't got the one german sentence... "Kein Zurück für dich!". This version brings tears to my eyes. Claudia and Suzanne still look gorgeous!
Now this is the proper propaganda i swear by, what an incredible vibe decades later, an absolute phenomenal timeless classic sound. March twenty twenty two 👍😎👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Even that I am a (Hard)Rocker since I was a little boy (Nazareth "Razamanaz" was one of my first own records back in the early 70's as example) I just love this song since it came out in 1984, especially the original 10-minutes 12-inch mix. I was a DJ then and discovered the song by pure hazard while checking through the "new" 12-inches in my record store. Now, almost 40 years later, this song hasn't aged or become dusty or "outdated" - and rare are the songs that do this effect. In 1984 and still in 2023 this is an absolute epic masterpiece and eternally on my all-time favorites playlist ♥
Incroyable de voir le nombre de musiciens qu'il y a sur scene. C'est probablement la version la plus riche et la plus symphonique de ce merveilleux titre . I can’t believe how many musicians are on stage. This is probably the richest, most symphonic version of this wonderful title
In early 1985, I listened to the freshly released album "A Secret Wish" of Propaganda. It was really amazing experience. A new stream of German Synthpop emerged then. So thank you, The Twins, Propaganda, Alphaville and others. Thanks for all the the music". God Bless You. Danke Sehr.
This song to be is for me to be addicted to a drug such as alcohol. A man without a shadow promisses you the world. Tell him your Dreams and fanaticul needs. He is buying them all with cash.
Awesome.... Propaganda is one of my alltime favs. I like Duel, BitterSweet and P-Maschiney most..... puh... und das schon ganz schön lange. #findichganzgutausrufezeichen
Also ich sitz hier und hör mir das immer und immer und immer wieder an. Und je öfter ich das höre umso mehr gefällt es mir. Hammerteil, vor allem die Inszenierung mit dem Orchester finde ich sehr schmackhaft. Und den Augenaufschlag :-)
I love this song since the first time i heard it, i think it was in 1984, since then i became a fan of these guys, specialy Claudia Brucken, she's fantastic...
It`s unbelievable, fantastic and realy "tasty" music-all space around full of sounds-amazing!!!!When I hear that, then fiel so young!!! I love that-80`s the best allways!!! Danke!!! Thank`s!!!
i have listened to this for a couple of weeks and I can't get itn out of my head.. beautiful, haunting, powerful, subtle, it has everything ... this is art in musical form...
A super band of my youth! The album is excellent! I rediscovered it on a cassette tape I played in my vintage car, a citroën CX GTI of 1979. The final title "Final word" is so beautiful, prestigious, with a dramatix melody.I saw other live performance of the band in the 80'S ; they are brilliant, full of energy.I'm so admirative because the germans are generally very "square" and tight when they play but PROPAGANDA are very good musicians and they "swing" when they play.The girls (Claudia Brücken and Susan Freytag) are very beautiful.What a pity that they made only one album!Christophe from france.
When musicians are so gifted to twist so well our point of view about making music is just .. wow, keep on twisting it, keep on giving us things to surprise us, yeah, the true engine of life fans
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genius stroke... after 20y live in wembley, german "lost'' band. absolutely perfect.
Who's still listening to this masterpiece in 2024 ?!?
Me
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I’m
@@ragnardarle3946 So good to hear...Thanks👍
@@ragnardarle3946 ciao dall ' italia
Wonderful to see this so many years later. One of my favourite 1980s albums
This is just sublime. - Claudia Brucken and Susanne Freytag are incredible. This has lost none of its magic and noir and power! ❤
Clearly one of the most underrated bands of the 1980s.
Underrated? Only by ignorants.One of my favourite bands at the time.
@@henrikrdstherchristie9553 I think he meant that they should have had more fame that they ever got. One of the best bands in the 1980s but the clash with Trevor Horn ruined their world domination.
A far more innovative band than Frankie, better songwriters too. Classic album.
amazing band, production was some of the best in the 80s
@@abigailsda1 totally agree 💯
A fucking masterpiece! 80s forever!!
All thanks to Trevor Horn, the best producer ever imo!
Einer der epischsten Songs der 80-er Jahre. Lief in den Discotheken rauf und runter. War eine tolle Zeit, die ich nicht missen möchte !
QR code bitte........ha ha ha
Geht mir genauso so 😊
Wo ist die Zeit geblieben....
Eines der genialsten Werke der 80er. Absolute Klasse und grandioses Lied. Danke
J écoutais propaganda et encore aujourd'hui j adore
Timeless ...in 100 years this will be the classical music
Absolutely fantastic music
Das ist einfach komplett überirdisch...ich LIEBE diese Live-Produktion...
Ganz deiner Meinung. Dieses Lied und p machinery sind zeitlos.
Kein Zurück für dich.... Diese Worte sind auf immer in mir geprägt
She has still a great voice.
Das Ende is so geil mit dem Orchester....brillinat gespielt und gesungen!
In meiner Jugend war das eines meiner Lieblingslieder.
Welch eine Hammer Neuauflage!!!Ich bin hin und weg und fühle mich wieder wie im besten Jahrzehnt,das ich erleben durfte.
Danke fürs einstellen!!!
Etwas Gedanken spielen unsere Zeit
Imagine this: if Trevor Horn and ZTT Records focused more on Propaganda instead of Frankie Goes To Hollywood, didn't have that ridiculous contract with them, had a standard contract with them, the lawsuit never happened, Propaganda didn't break up, and they continued with their core/awesome lineup throughout the 80's and 90's. I wonder how badass and amazing they could have been. One can only wonder /:
Dan Nájera Trevor horn produced 1 song
They would have had a couple of fantastic albums, then would have struggled to keep the momentum going. It would have been hard to follow up an album as perfect as this. Their influence would have been broader musically plus their influence would have downplayed the rise of the stockaitken& Waterman sound that ruined the latter half of the 80's.
@@ThePeterCorne so sir. Trevor Horn produced the whole album with Stephen Lipson
Interesting perspective. Trevor is an amazing producer and artists but he was pushing the edge of authoritarianism at that stage of his career. Holly Johnson rightfully pushed back and rejected his fascist overdetermination, just as Mark Hollis (Talk Talk) did with his producers.
At the end of the day, the artist must speak. It's their voice. Trevor augmented Yes, Seal, Frankie and so many to such an incredible degree but he couldn't restrain his zeal. He ended up destroying most of those relationships. Even with Propaganda, he neglected them then obsessed and then... it was a mess.
I wish that Trevor was raised with a worldview that wasn't exclusively capitalist-libertarian exploitative. If you know what Frankie, Propaganda and the rest sing about, it's leftist emancipatory worldview. Trevor's right-wing capitalist artist colonialism just ensured he would never be able to collaborate with these artists to reach even greater levels.
That said, everything they collaborated on was astounding. Many of our lives are impacted by these songs. Thank you to all of them.
I'm going to play devil's advocate - the album has three killer singles and "Dream Within a Dream". Take them away and it's very slight, although it all sounds wonderful. They didn't have enough material for a whole album and would have struggled to follow it up no matter what happened.
20 years later and they even sound better. What a timeless piece. What a mastermind production.
Ero un ragazzino quando ascoltavo questa musica. Anni 80. Fantastici
This is almost beyond words! Absolutely awesome, and live. What an incredible sound mix, loved it in my teens in the 80's, and still do now
Still brill! And I have it as my phone alarm tune! Few better ways to start the day than Propaganda!
From 3:50 onwards, the music is sublime.
In my top 5 albums of ALL TIMES.... phenominal musicality, geniusly orchestrated and briljant interludes... goose bump understated vocals... they blew me away in 1984... and they bloody hell still do... what a waste.... and what a gift this one gem.
I couldn’t agree more. Major influence on me
Bien dicho, "holandés errante".....:)
and still incredible 40 years later
One of the best beats of the 80s. Really great and thank you Dusseldorf!
When Claudia sings "Kein Zurueck fuer Dich" at 3:13, I get GOOSEBUMPS! This is indeed an amazing live version, perhaps the best one ever recorded.
Correctly it would be "Kein zurück für dich" ;-). BTW, do you also recognize 3:32: "Spieglein, Spieglein an der Wand, wer ist die Schönste im ganzen Land." -> Schneewittchen
It took me 40 years to understand this line - and I am german and I didn't got the one german sentence... "Kein Zurück für dich!". This version brings tears to my eyes. Claudia and Suzanne still look gorgeous!
I m in love with Claudia Brücken ❤. Who else???
Me
One of the greatest live performances on RUclips.
Troppo forti! Band musicali negli anni 80!! Tutto un'altro mondo.
Now this is the proper propaganda i swear by, what an incredible vibe decades later, an absolute phenomenal timeless classic sound. March twenty twenty two 👍😎👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Even that I am a (Hard)Rocker since I was a little boy (Nazareth "Razamanaz" was one of my first own records back in the early 70's as example) I just love this song since it came out in 1984, especially the original 10-minutes 12-inch mix. I was a DJ then and discovered the song by pure hazard while checking through the "new" 12-inches in my record store. Now, almost 40 years later, this song hasn't aged or become dusty or "outdated" - and rare are the songs that do this effect. In 1984 and still in 2023 this is an absolute epic masterpiece and eternally on my all-time favorites playlist ♥
This was a great band from 80's ❤❤
Incroyable de voir le nombre de musiciens qu'il y a sur scene. C'est probablement la version la plus riche et la plus symphonique de ce merveilleux titre .
I can’t believe how many musicians are on stage. This is probably the richest, most symphonic version of this wonderful title
Ça me fout les tripes à l'air, la partie symphonique est extraordinaire ❤ Quel morceau en avance sur son temps !
Take artistic genius Propaganda add production genius Trevor Horn = sublime, timeless performance.
Two stunning ladies with fantastic voices!!
In my opinion the most underrated band of the 80's. I saw them 3 years ago backing Heaven 17 and Claudia and Suzanne still have it
In early 1985, I listened to the freshly released album "A Secret Wish" of Propaganda. It was really amazing experience. A new stream of German Synthpop emerged then.
So thank you, The Twins, Propaganda, Alphaville and others. Thanks for all the the music". God Bless You.
Danke Sehr.
still one of the best songs ever
absolutely
Indeed!
Never look back!
Loved Propaganda, ACT, and later Claudia’s solo career. Saw Propaganda at the Beacon in NYC. What an experience! Phenomenal!
Great musicians, great singers, great version!
This song to be is for me to be addicted to a drug such as alcohol. A man without a shadow promisses you the world. Tell him your Dreams and fanaticul needs. He is buying them all with cash.
80er Pure Lifestyle .... Gott fehlt mir das :-(
still one from the best - the live version is so unbelievable - and now it is again 15 years later
An orchestra for the ears, which is an incredible musical experience.
music that defined a decade..the 80s, still relevant today
Pure gold. Great memories, amazing albums, way ahead of their time ! X
havent heard this song for 31 years. its awsome
Ce morceau ainsi que toutes leurs compositions n'ont pas vieilli. Total respect 👍🏻✌🏻☮️🇵🇸
The Best Version i ever heard
Claudia is a goddess in the Greek tradition. Just born out of time. She'll have her own someday.
Could. Not. Care. Less!!
Impressionante quanti strumenti ! 🙂😍
Il genio di saper reitenrpretare il brano in chiave differente..
so ahead of their time back then, and now they sound even better than ever-wow- so cool and beautiful to watch.
Susanne can do "those" eyes at me for eternity
And tears in Claudia's as she finishes..
Questa è musica-spettacolo con una vera trama, una storia raccontata. Dopo 35 anni ancora li amo.
Piacciono ancora perché sanno cantare .
Amazing!!!!
The klar
Awesome.... Propaganda is one of my alltime favs. I like Duel, BitterSweet and P-Maschiney most..... puh... und das schon ganz schön lange. #findichganzgutausrufezeichen
Also ich sitz hier und hör mir das immer und immer und immer wieder an. Und je öfter ich das höre umso mehr gefällt es mir. Hammerteil, vor allem die Inszenierung mit dem Orchester finde ich sehr schmackhaft. Und den Augenaufschlag :-)
This performance brings me so much pleasure
Too girls from Düsseldorf / Germany fill the Wembley Arena in London.
What a story!
Brilliant production
Great song!!! Great band!!! Great Claudia!!! ❤️👋👋👋
absolutely brilliant band
Such an under rated band, absolutely epic!
Back to the days of skill in music SUPERB!
Jagt mir immer noch einen Schauer über den Rücken. Und diese Live-Version ist fantastisch!
So many memories
So many years before
So Amazing
Suzie Freytag- I still love you after all these years baby!!
ALL THE BEST FROM ROMANIA! WE ARE MISSING YOU! THANK YOU FOR THE MUSIC!
wow your are live wow
bigest respect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1st time I heard them...on German TV...Formel Eins...sometime in the 80's.....had to buy the music as soon as I could.
I Love this Song, incredible live version. Respect for singers and Orchestra, what for a great Job!
brilliant song by propaganda, who along with trevor horn, redefined the concept of pop music in the 1980s to great effect
Steve Lipson produced their album, not Trevor.
wish i would have been there love this song and group .
So good to see them back after so many yrs apart but what a disappointment to only get the one trk by them although it was an amazing night though
I love this song since the first time i heard it, i think it was in 1984, since then i became a fan of these guys, specialy Claudia Brucken, she's fantastic...
It`s unbelievable, fantastic and realy "tasty" music-all space around full of sounds-amazing!!!!When I hear that, then fiel so young!!!
I love that-80`s the best allways!!!
Danke!!!
Thank`s!!!
i have listened to this for a couple of weeks and I can't get itn out of my head.. beautiful, haunting, powerful, subtle, it has everything ... this is art in musical form...
One of the bands you listened to back in the 1984 when this came out. Still a tune & band I listen to.
Absolut geil dieser Song. Zeitlos.
"Kein Zurück für Dich" my favorite line
Yes, strange, it makes me connect with them instantly.
A super band of my youth! The album is excellent! I rediscovered it on a cassette tape I played in my vintage car, a citroën CX GTI of 1979.
The final title "Final word" is so beautiful, prestigious, with a dramatix melody.I saw other live performance of the band in the 80'S ; they are brilliant, full of energy.I'm so admirative because the germans are generally very "square" and tight when they play but PROPAGANDA are very good musicians and they "swing" when they play.The girls (Claudia Brücken and Susan Freytag) are very beautiful.What a pity that they made only one album!Christophe from france.
This is what I call MASTERPIECE!!!!!!
One of the greatest performance videos ever posted on RUclips. Wow!
30..1..2...3...4...anni dopo the best! !
I love this piece, it has some truth in the text, my youth time....
Great performance live on stage Propaganda so 80's perfect sound .
When musicians are so gifted to twist so well our point of view about making music is just .. wow, keep on twisting it, keep on giving us things to surprise us, yeah, the true engine of life fans
awesome .... they were so brilliant!!! what a great performance 20 years later
My heart has missed a few beats! Nurse! More! I want more!
as if they never aged after all these years! ein muziken ist sehr fantastik!
love this. love those two women.
loved them since a concert in Ahoy in 1985. those voices...faces...bodies :D :P
What a GREAT performance, they are still creating it!! Very class TOP Artists, arent many left of these species nowadays!
40 years old 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Trevor Horn play bass !
Eine moderne Symphonie , einfach Klasse !
This kind of music of the eighties has influenced my childhood.
I love it so much!
¡¡¡¡¡ I LUV THOU MABUSE !!!!!! ;12.10.2024.-
Truly one of the greatest videos on RUclips.........
Deustcher wunderkind fur alles electronica ! Yeah - defining moment of the early 80's for me. Extra luscious with the big band sound behind them.
They were the eighties best..and still are GREAT.
I'm still alive! Brilliant!
Absolutely mint
Love this - this is how you do it live
fantastic performance.
nie ma już takiej MUZYKI :..(
wykonanie perfekcyjne, orkiestra do oscara, dupe mi urwało