A Metaphor in Fantasy - Katsura Hashino, Shigenori Soejima & Shoji Meguro

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @bestgamer-1st73
    @bestgamer-1st73 Месяц назад +220

    The more I learn about Katsura Hashino, the more I respect him and his mind. Same goes for Soejima And Meguro. It’s sad to see so many people love Persona/SMT/Metaphor but not know the talented minds behind it. I hope more people get to know him, and I’d love to meet him personally someday to ask him questions about various philosophies.

    • @BoostedMonkey05
      @BoostedMonkey05 Месяц назад +11

      I really disliked the marketing for the game here in the west because the trio have done a lot together and apart from each other that isn't just P3,4,and 5. I also hated Persona twitter for wanting more of the same/expecting more of the same from Metaphor which wasn't helped by the god awful marketing. I was expecting a game that would fail commercially and critically because it wasn't the game everyone else was expecting. Meanwhile I and many others were looking forward to something special and we saw the influences of the things we love about MegaTen as a whole in Metaphor. Engaging turn based combat, thought provoking story, entertaining characters and stories. I was excited. and I am happy that despite my initial cynicism towards everyone else who just saw this game and thought it was just Fantasy Persona, the game became a critical and financial success. Though I doubt the game will stick in the minds of the masses the marketing tried to appeal to, I know everyone who love this game for what it is and what it is meant to represent are going to place this among the best RPGs that Atlus has put out throughout their lifetime.

    • @koffeeasika
      @koffeeasika Месяц назад +1

      Tbh I know enough about Hashino and his blatant sexism and lgbtphobia. Tbh I wish more people noticed that. At least Soejima tries to be a better person, now HE got my respect.

    • @checkmate3735
      @checkmate3735 28 дней назад +1

      @@koffeeasikatrust me, enough people know about that. Plus, Metaphor seems to completely avoid those tropes

  • @kevinr7216
    @kevinr7216 Месяц назад +119

    “I put the best of my efforts into making the most ideal RPG”
    Your efforts were not in vein my friend. You have accomplished that several times over. Wish I could thank him forreal 🙏

  • @Shehan_74
    @Shehan_74 Месяц назад +92

    Metaphor Refantazio was an absolutely phenomenal experience, I still can't stop thinking about it ever since I beat it a week ago. It is one of my favorite games of all time now.
    Thank you Katsura Hashino, Shigenori Soejima, Shoji Meguro and everyone at Atlus and Studio Zero for making this wonderful game.
    And of course, thank you Archipel for this amazing documentory. You guys continue to produce some of best content RUclips has to offer.

  • @ch1slu
    @ch1slu Месяц назад +84

    you can see clearly it's not "just another game" for them, they love and care so much about what they do, truly inspiring. Metaphor is amazing, its been a while since i had enjoyed a game this much

  • @ArchipelDocumentaries
    @ArchipelDocumentaries  Месяц назад +129

    English subtitles are available under the "CC" menu. Thank you for following Archipel!

  • @diandre2530
    @diandre2530 Месяц назад +107

    The most interesting part for me in metaphor is the art direction. There's an article discussing the inspiration for the menu design in the game and it takes a lot of ideas from leonardo davinci paintings and traditional japanese paintings. This game is a big work of art

    • @vladik87
      @vladik87 Месяц назад

      A lot of the character costumes look like they were inspired by 60’s fashion too.

  • @FazPersona
    @FazPersona Месяц назад +126

    Didn't expect it at all, but it's really cool to see the early hulkenberg design in game 32:25

    • @Aurange
      @Aurange Месяц назад +3

      And you were playing as her. It would have been more interesting to see how things changed and evolved over time but alas.

    • @freak3d
      @freak3d Месяц назад +15

      Real footage of hulkenburg trying to find the prince before the game starts

    • @sssspnl8699
      @sssspnl8699 Месяц назад +1

      Also the Joker animations and the P5 calendar on the top left xD

    • @TommyCollins93
      @TommyCollins93 26 дней назад +1

      @@sssspnl8699 they literally did P5 re-skin, that must be very early concept to see how their vision would look like before starting to work on this game

  • @OroborOSX11
    @OroborOSX11 Месяц назад +12

    I had no clue Metaphor was a thing. Randomly, I saw a video of it on RUclips. Then another. Then more…
    At first I didn’t plan to get it. I just wanted to watch my fav streamers play it. But after seeing them play the demo, I downloaded it. And it hooked me so hard.
    I love when a game like this comes into my life when I had absolutely no clue that it was coming.

  • @Jay-9120
    @Jay-9120 Месяц назад +34

    I *really* love how they literally and figuratively deconstructed the idea of ‘fantasy.’ Favorite game of theirs, along with Persona 3, by far
    I can’t wait for the trio’s next work!

  • @FulMetallalchemist
    @FulMetallalchemist Месяц назад +28

    I could listen to these gentlemen talk about their craft all day. What a remarkable team.

  • @GMRcris
    @GMRcris Месяц назад +30

    I loved Metaphor and this documentary opened my eyes to just how imaginative and talented the people at Atlus are, thank you for sharing this video.

  • @corruptedteka
    @corruptedteka Месяц назад +32

    I had been waiting patiently for this one ! Thank you so so so much.
    I'm currently in the end portion of the game, and the themes are resonating with my very soul. That's what it feels like. I feel like the whole world could learn from what Metaphor says about our lives in society.
    And this impact is thanks, in no small art, to the beautiful artistry and sound backing the message. A fantasy painted into reality, and the magic written in music.
    Thank you to the team at Studio Zero, and all the people who helped, for this wonderful game. And thank you Archipel for the wonderful documentary !

    • @ArchipelDocumentaries
      @ArchipelDocumentaries  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed!

    • @corruptedteka
      @corruptedteka Месяц назад +1

      ​@@ArchipelDocumentaries Of course ! Always thank YOU for making it ! These documentaries are always a blessing, thank you !!

  • @Straw.bri_7141
    @Straw.bri_7141 Месяц назад +16

    This made me emotional. But while watching and learning the inspiration for each core element in the game I can clearly see it executed SO well. From the style to the music, everything is so well thought out. The end where they are talking about traveling made me remember how much I use video games as a form of escapism and I truly feel like I am traveling that world. This was a great short documentary 👏👏

  • @marktheshark5733
    @marktheshark5733 17 дней назад +2

    Your production quality continues to amaze me, very well shot and edited video

  • @Xero026
    @Xero026 7 дней назад +1

    Man, the atmosphere and quality of your videos is amazing. The editing, shots, tempo and music... I love to watch at night. So calming and relaxed. Being transported to far away Japan yet so close to my own imagination. Keep it up.

  • @Kanomera
    @Kanomera Месяц назад +17

    Beautiful video. I learned ton of things, it's always interesting to see their inspiration and the inside of the game you love. Metaphor is my goty of this year, a new IP that resonated in me, so much to say of it.

  • @matheusiuryborba8539
    @matheusiuryborba8539 19 дней назад +1

    Amo esse canal, tem muita profundidade. Sou do Brasil, vou compartilhar pra muitas pessoas da comunidade game Br.

  • @nankyokusensei
    @nankyokusensei Месяц назад +8

    このゲームと目黒さんと出会えて大変光栄でした!!またご縁あれば嬉しいです!

  • @camelemonglass
    @camelemonglass Месяц назад +44

    このチャンネルの作品は、その時代のクリエイターの人達がどんな思想や信念で作品を制作してるのか知れるので、とても面白いです

    • @ArchipelDocumentaries
      @ArchipelDocumentaries  Месяц назад +8

      ありがとうございます。
      これからもよろしくお願いします!

  • @Locomotion94
    @Locomotion94 Месяц назад +6

    They should've kept the MCs outfit from 0:24 It looks way cooler than what we got in the final release.

  • @PLANTBAT
    @PLANTBAT Месяц назад +14

    I love this, thank you.

  • @sponsje
    @sponsje Месяц назад +9

    I loved Metaphor, definitely my GOTY and one my favourite JRPGS of all time. Excellent documentary, thank you for the English CC. I'm glad the team moved on from Persona and is trying new things. It worked out wonderfully and I'm hopeful we'll see more

  • @aurelienbayonne2967
    @aurelienbayonne2967 24 дня назад +2

    Very good, as usual. I really like the angles, how you film people, everything. And soothing music too. A very good documentary!

  • @petershamarkoujj
    @petershamarkoujj Месяц назад +5

    This is undeniably one of best youtube chanels out there, thank you for giving thoughtful value to the work and lives of artists.

  • @نونيم-ي4ح
    @نونيم-ي4ح Месяц назад +19

    Finished metaphor today and it’s by far one of the most impactful stories I have ever experienced, Katsura hoshino and his team are legends and deserve way more popularity than they already have.

  • @kdoggdracul
    @kdoggdracul 6 дней назад +1

    Loved this as much as I loved my 90+ hours with the game! Thank you for making this video!

  • @ExistentialistBread
    @ExistentialistBread 15 дней назад +1

    A beautiful video and a beautiful game. Well done Archipel! Well some Atlus!
    As they talked about what they wanted player’s experiences and impressions to be, I kept thinking “it worked! That IS what I thought!”

  • @HeyTails
    @HeyTails Месяц назад +2

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

  • @kanzatoeiji81
    @kanzatoeiji81 Месяц назад +2

    Such a great and inspiring content TYSM archipel

  • @joshuahdz3214
    @joshuahdz3214 Месяц назад +6

    Inspiración absoluta poder ver el proceso de estos creativos. Muchas gracias por este video :'D

  • @evertonsoutolima
    @evertonsoutolima Месяц назад +4

    Surprises this type of content even exist on RUclips. Good job recommendation algorithm.

  • @skyFxd
    @skyFxd Месяц назад +4

    Thank you so much for this, it's great to listen to the brilliant minds behind modern Persona how they made Metaphor. I really love this game

  • @senshai1267
    @senshai1267 Месяц назад +6

    One of my favorite channels on RUclips is back !! Thank you!😊

  • @lordkresnik2776
    @lordkresnik2776 Месяц назад +4

    I've been waiting for this! Thank you!

  • @EzaHazami
    @EzaHazami Месяц назад +1

    Soejima we love you so much!!! Thank you for the hard work 🥰

  • @Ironwill_Games
    @Ironwill_Games 29 дней назад +1

    Amazing as always. Thanks for sharing!

  • @prodnuven
    @prodnuven Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for making all this documentaries, its really dope! Keep moving.

  • @theguudknight
    @theguudknight Месяц назад +1

    Beautiful. Just a beautiful documentary as always. GREAT JOB!

  • @CrystronHalq
    @CrystronHalq Месяц назад +25

    They pretty much redefined the concept of Fantasy within videogaming with this project.
    Its an actual Fantasy videogame with a clear consistent vision and message that give meaning and value in why youre playing a Fantasy videogame.

    • @Janosevic80
      @Janosevic80 Месяц назад

      Redefined the concept of fantasy? Really? How? Nier did it better and more subtly, in my opinion. The companions were less interesting than Persona's. The best thing about Metaphor was the mixing of archetypes, but just as it starts to get interesting and you get more variety, the game ends. It does not feel like a $70 game. I jumped from FF16 to Metaphore and the fidelity contrast was just too jarring. They purposefully used the anime format to avoid motion capture, animating and modeling scenes. It feels cheap to me from Atlas who by now is drowning in Persona money

    • @reeodd2112
      @reeodd2112 Месяц назад +10

      ​@@Janosevic80 Nier was also a great game in the sci-fi / fantasy genre, so I understand where you're coming from. Not sure about OP but for me the way they introduced rules specific to the fantasy world and is consistent from beginning to end (e.g. King's Magic, Magla), but also twisting it to a fresh concept in a fantasy genre about introducing democratic polling and how it ties to each characters' goals, is something truly new to me.
      If you compare the party members and their personalities between this game to Persona 3, I agree that their dynamics are relatively not as good. Persona 3's main selling point is how they explored negative interactions between party members (Mitsuru vs. Yukari, Ken vs. Shinjiro, Junpei vs. MC). But I think Metaphor's characters really explored how each character has done something wrong in the past, how this event affects their lack of confidence today, and how they work through it with the MC - and this is the main theme in the game (facing anxieties).
      There's 14 Base Archetypes and 46 overall. How many more do you think the game needs? And I wonder if you feel that Persona's battle system is also a letdown, given that it is the simplest battle system in the Metaphor/SMT/Persona genre.
      You can dislike a game but reading your comment, it sounds like you're just pulling different things together and make it sound like it's one big narrative ("companions less interesting", "Nier did it better", "the game ends before I mix and match archetypes", "it doesn't feel $70", "different from FF16", "no motion capture"). You can still criticize without being a massive troll.

    • @dopaminecloud
      @dopaminecloud Месяц назад

      This sounds less like praise for this game and more like a fantastical misunderstanding of this genre and the titles that appear in it. There are a great many works that are obviously "actual fantasy" games with a purpose for being one. Maybe this game spelled it out in an easier way.

    • @CrystronHalq
      @CrystronHalq Месяц назад +1

      ​​​@@reeodd2112Its a game that actually wants to surpass reality while also reflecting upon reality in a meticulous way. It brings meaning to why we like Fantasy games due to its incredible message and vision. I think at this point we take the Fantasy videogame genre for granted. We see alot of them afterall. They give us a Fantasy game, throw us into the world and then you just gotta deal with the struggles. And thats pretty much to the extent it usually goes. But Metaphor ReFantazio for me felt meaningful the whole way through. It isnt just there to let you do your own thing, but there to also make you a wiser and better/lighter person and remind you that Fantasy is something very powerful that resonates with many people across the world. It definetely breathes new life into the genre. Reinvigorating it.

    • @Janosevic80
      @Janosevic80 Месяц назад

      @@reeodd2112 You have some good points. Didn't have the time or the energy to elaborate every one of my comments. So they were just cliffs notes

  • @toys_addicted
    @toys_addicted Месяц назад +1

    What a talented group you are. Please don't let us wait a lot for the next video 🙂

  • @tomaszniemiec
    @tomaszniemiec Месяц назад +2

    Phenomenal work lads. Thank you.

  • @sbebiwan
    @sbebiwan Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for this wonderful video about wonderful people.

  • @MrChearlie2
    @MrChearlie2 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you so much💛!!!!

  • @cicciodemarco6736
    @cicciodemarco6736 Месяц назад +1

    thank you Archipel for such great content !!!

  • @acxe212
    @acxe212 Месяц назад +1

    Such a beautifull masterpiece, atlus dont miss, excited to see what is in stock for us in the unknow

  • @foxtrotfunky
    @foxtrotfunky Месяц назад +1

    Archipel keeps making the best documentaries on artistry. Each time I watch Archipel videos, I feel I've been taken on a journey, then plopped right back into reality. Archipel, these videos you've made are art. It's incredible work.

  • @robin6416
    @robin6416 Месяц назад +2

    I love these three mastermind stay on the "fantasy" topic but also somehow go a little off-topic in their own style. Katsura Hashino think about making fantasy game, but what he actually done is discuss with us about "what is fantasy?". Shigenori Soejima think about sword and magic, but end up looking for old 70s fasion. Shoji Meguro think about classic orchestra, but also bring us some east asia religion element.

  • @PaladinAldwin
    @PaladinAldwin Месяц назад +1

    Wow, what an incredible documentary! I really enjoy the behind-the-scenes content related to video games and movies. I'm truly amazed by how Katsura Hashino, Shoji Meguro, and Shigenori Soejima approach their crafts. In the end, their combined efforts resulted in an outstanding game. There's so much love and care put into it. You have gained a new subscriber to your channel, Cheers🍻

  • @feliiiciiiano
    @feliiiciiiano Месяц назад +1

    God I love this so much. Thank you, Katsura Hashino, Shigenori Soejima & Shoji Meguro for this one in a million kind of game.

  • @ВасилийМихайлов-й6ь
    @ВасилийМихайлов-й6ь Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for another great video! These legends are incredibly inspiring

  • @joshelstro7581
    @joshelstro7581 28 дней назад +1

    You know the design team is passionate about paying attention to detail when the making of documentary has a whole segment on inspiration of the characters fashion hair and makeup.

  • @y0rgos_
    @y0rgos_ Месяц назад +1

    It was a great experience, thank you!

  • @jb0258jr
    @jb0258jr Месяц назад +4

    The original outfit for the protagonist, is so clean looking. It would have been cool to get it in game as an alternate look

  • @youpsychotic
    @youpsychotic Месяц назад +2

    Merci ❤, un jeu et un univers incroyable. C'est une réussite totale, merci de nous avoir partagé ce petit making of. Cela permet encore plus de se rendre compte que rien n'est laissé au hasard dans vos productions 👍🏻.

  • @silentobserver888
    @silentobserver888 Месяц назад +1

    Oh we have been blessed today! Update: I love this work and their approach to it. It inspires me as I work on my on fantasy universe as I continue to write, draw and world build. I just want to produce quality works and share them with the world. Congrats to the team on winning best art direction they deserved it!

  • @flamuralaj3302
    @flamuralaj3302 Месяц назад +2

    A really fun watch, and great videography in this one as per usual, guys. When there's another Metaphor, I'd love to watch another video on it to see how things changed from ReFantazio.

  • @Treemike1000
    @Treemike1000 Месяц назад +1

    It’s nice to know the inspiration. 😊

  • @ChromeColossus
    @ChromeColossus Месяц назад +1

    Thank you so much for creating this!

  • @ZengetsuFR
    @ZengetsuFR Месяц назад +2

    the results of your interviews are always of high quality ✨

  • @Larrue
    @Larrue Месяц назад +1

    This was good! Thanks for sharing some info that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise

  • @dafire9634
    @dafire9634 25 дней назад +1

    Thank you Archipel

  • @MrTate66
    @MrTate66 Месяц назад +2

    I finished the game the same time this video came out😂 I just wanna say that out of all games that i play, this one touched me the most❤

  • @zizzi9806
    @zizzi9806 Месяц назад

    Incredible.... Metaphor is a work of pure, passionate art and emotion and love.. And to not even speak of how it speaks to the very soul and really does affect your perceptions of this real world we live in, and how we can improve ours and everyone's situation if we really strive for it, it's seriously beautiful. The very questions towards what is fantasy really makes every character feel real and immerses me in Metaphors world like no other. Thank you for this experience that makes life very much worth living and pushing onward. (In-game & out)

  • @luroc
    @luroc Месяц назад +4

    thank you for this. exceptionally directed and planned. well done. metaphor is now one of my all time favorite games and a lot of the reasons for that are because of what these core developers have used as their primary influences: travel, a broader sense of what defines fantasy, fashion etc. it’s a special game and i hope people see it for what it is: something beyond just a “fantasy persona”.

    • @john_7000
      @john_7000 Месяц назад

      Yeah and it okay if people call it fantasy persona, it made by those wonderful people ❤️ these people using there knowledge of what they do best into there new game.

    • @ArchipelDocumentaries
      @ArchipelDocumentaries  Месяц назад

      Thank for the kind word!

  • @Seacle14
    @Seacle14 Месяц назад +2

    Good to see. Will watch this when I have played the game.

  • @aaronjohnson1286
    @aaronjohnson1286 Месяц назад +2

    Amazing truly amazing

  • @v4l324
    @v4l324 Месяц назад +1

    Amazing video

  • @AMEMORYSAY0
    @AMEMORYSAY0 Месяц назад +1

    So amazing, Thank you so much for making this !!

  • @lightlegion_
    @lightlegion_ Месяц назад

    It’s lovely to meet you!

  • @Pipesalmarti2
    @Pipesalmarti2 Месяц назад +1

    Gracias por el tremendo contenido. Felicidades.

  • @ChefKyroo
    @ChefKyroo Месяц назад +1

    Great video! Been waiting for this one

  • @nafihanasar5271
    @nafihanasar5271 Месяц назад +1

    I might’ve cried a little by the end of this video.
    Gosh I love this trio. I love Atlus. I love video games.

  • @falsoabuelo1405
    @falsoabuelo1405 Месяц назад +3

    Wonderful documentary piece! Its return was eagerly awaited.
    素晴らしいドキュメンタリー作品です!その復帰が待ち望まれていました。

  • @KoOk-h1d
    @KoOk-h1d Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for the vidro. It honestly feels weird seeing metaphor inspiration and the devs' thoughts on the games themselves.

  • @ilikestuff9250
    @ilikestuff9250 Месяц назад +1

    As thankful as ever for such excellent documentation of japanese media.
    Metaphor has been incredible.

  • @jeffreyhoungbadji
    @jeffreyhoungbadji Месяц назад +1

    It's really amazing ! Thank you!

  • @NeSyyv
    @NeSyyv Месяц назад +2

    Thanks you for this incredible game

  • @bass2126
    @bass2126 Месяц назад +2

    Man its so mesmerizing seeing the devs going through their thoughts after creating all these masterworks, one thing is, I'd love to see an interview with Kaneko, maybe he could tell us about his past in Atlus & his personal thoughts on it currently, considering he was a major part in shaping what Atlus is today. Anyway thank you so much Archipel for giving us a window into this wonderful Industry.

  • @AleksandrStrizhevskiy
    @AleksandrStrizhevskiy Месяц назад +1

    Just beat the game yesterday. So happy to see this!

  • @Shijishoutmon
    @Shijishoutmon Месяц назад +1

    Wow this is so perfect right here

  • @abyjohan200
    @abyjohan200 Месяц назад +1

    I initially thought Black Myth Wukong will be my GOTY, but after playing Metaphor, it changed. It's beautifully written and got amazing directions. Kudos to Atlus & the team involved!

  • @Pamoo_1
    @Pamoo_1 Месяц назад +1

    This is not just a medieval fantasy, it's the melting of the senses of the present age and that makes this game special.

  • @grapes9h5
    @grapes9h5 Месяц назад +1

    Absolute legends and Kings 👑

  • @justhomashere
    @justhomashere Месяц назад +1

    Very inspiring. Thank you for this game. I look forward to studying it soon

  • @dpcaw
    @dpcaw Месяц назад +1

    superb as always!:)

  • @RandyMayCrazy
    @RandyMayCrazy Месяц назад +1

    thank you for the video!

  • @potatoprsk
    @potatoprsk Месяц назад +1

    Beautiful work

  • @hachi-hachi
    @hachi-hachi Месяц назад +4

    アカデメイアの曲、好きだなあ

  • @hamiwiremu7154
    @hamiwiremu7154 Месяц назад +2

    Young man. YOUNG MAN!

  • @murdockgamingsv
    @murdockgamingsv Месяц назад +1

    Wow, I loved this, I was looking for siilver and found GOLD

  • @Lxx00Jxx00
    @Lxx00Jxx00 Месяц назад +1

    really nice video! About atlus, hope to see Kaneko and Soejima working together on new designs on Studio Zero. All the success, excited for the eventual Metaphor: ReFantazio Golden!

  • @nohalftimeAT2am
    @nohalftimeAT2am Месяц назад +1

    Just finished the game yesterday. Perfect timing.

  • @iceclkeyheart3060
    @iceclkeyheart3060 Месяц назад +1

    At the final dungeon currently this game has stated an itch I've had ever since the intro of smt4. I wanted a full Altus title set within a fantasy setting.
    Definitely my game of the year

  • @JVH35
    @JVH35 Месяц назад

    I just finished the game while traveling (doing a world tour, in New Zealand rn), I feel like it definitly got more impact.

  • @muhtasimfuad5130
    @muhtasimfuad5130 Месяц назад +1

    These trio really have become modern day Horii-Toriyama-Sugiyama.

  • @thanatosdv4369
    @thanatosdv4369 Месяц назад

    They sure a dream team, all their games always deliver

  • @jojonaruto1809
    @jojonaruto1809 Месяц назад +2

    archipelago thank you very much

  • @fayte0618
    @fayte0618 Месяц назад +1

    70 hrs in. I’m glad how this game prides itself as a metaphor to real world political and social issues. I hope people would take the lessons learned in this game and apply it to their actual lives

  • @gabrielnunez02
    @gabrielnunez02 Месяц назад +1

    Great movie. Thank you

  • @bxnkaiq-
    @bxnkaiq- Месяц назад +1

    Спасибо за ваш ролик! Как всегда на высоте!