We went out and started it yesterday and brought it home. It didn't want to start as easily. But we have it a small shot of ether and it barked right off. Definitely cold blooded.
Loved my old John Deere 'R'. Bought for $1500 & farmed with it for years, in the 1970's. The old 2 lung diesel ran all day on 5 gallons of diesel fuel pulling a four bottom plow.
What a great video…Nice to see a father and son team working hard to save this old iron. Great old machine that sounds great,bonus that we got to see the other tractor as well. Thanks for all your great videos,Merry Christmas from Vermont 🌲
It is good to see someone start up a piece of equipment and not rev the living shit out of it. These peoples' ancestors use to whip horses. Start it and let it run slow and long. Then slip her in to gear. I enjoyed this Vid guys keep up the great finds and share.
Yes. We were hopeful, but you never really know when buying something like this whether it will have other issues. But it seems to run ok. Hopefully with a little workout this spring the slight misfire it has will clear up.
I love watching your videos because you and your dad have a lot of knowledge and use a lot of common sense when working on your tractors and I definitely learn a lot from that! Merry Christmas from Michigan!
That's a beast of a tractor that should be in anyone's collectoin. Last one built was in 1954. Presuming that it was bought and used for 40 years, then parked, it may have sat for 25 years. With an 8" stroke, that engine generates a lot of torque. Just one cylinder has more displacement than most V-6 engines.
When do those 2 "Field Finds" get to go home? I don't think I would be able to sleep until those 2 gems were home safe and sound. Those 2 are going to be fun to play with and listen to.
As an old farm-boy, we gad a Johnny popper, a massey-furguson and a farmall. Give me any of them and I could do lots of work with them in one day. Great video on these tractors...WOW!
That's really cool. We work on John Deere mostly, but we have an Allis D-14 that we've owned since the 80s and it is probably the most reliable tractor we've ever owned.
I was 6 when i started to drive my first R to 1984 . Also a's And b's . The Diesel exhaust smells great . It was high sulfur fuel . Many many miles working Fields in South Texas
Gotta love a simple, rugged, quality built machine. This is the sort of tractor that made John Deere a household name and spawned the saying 'Nothing runs like a Deere'. I would be quite happy with an old Johnny Popper myself, though that R's a bit beefy even for my needs. Then again diesels are better at sitting unused for lengthy periods and the fuel is much less prone to going bad.
@@jonelsonster Mine would mostly just sit around looking pretty unless I needed to drag a project car around or a neighbor wanted help bushhogging. Dont need much power for that.
I heard 1 of those run when I was a kid. I am 57 years old now. I live near Denton North Carolina. In the Summer they Do what they call The Treashers Reunion that You can see all kinds of Antique Farm Machinery and Engines.
The AR is a great tractor. We pulled one from a field a few years back and got it running and it actually runs really well. (Link to those videos: ruclips.net/p/PLFyQBtxp-h2pFssyUj8JI4zgprBIZREG2&si=O9Vr9Dc8YwaCwMtN) A very cool old tractor. I can see why he was sad to see it go!
Excellent find on John Deere R also in Desiel motor to and be interesting what year that one is ! In good condition and runs nice too hopefully move on it own power of motor plus transmission too!
Wow John Deer should keep this video for their archive, testament to their brand. With those many years sitting? and on the the same fuel too? can't get any better than that, Merry Christmas
Nice find! It shouldn’t take too much to bring her back to her former glory. Everything about this tractor is just heavy duty. Yes, they are cold natured but once warmed up will run merrily all day long.
A farmer in our county had a JD A sitting in his landscape as an ornament for 50+ years. When they sold it at auction the buyer had it running within 20 mins!
@@jonelsonsteris that u're dad he looks like he's at least 80 I Don't mean to sound offensive, it's great to see him still able to potter about and do what he enjoys.
@@martymartin2894 ha ha! He's only 78, but I'll be sure to tell him he looks 80! He's in good health. Still runs 3 mins every single day, rain or shine... Or snow.
@@jonelsonster ah that's good he looks like a hard working man in his day reminds me of my late father and his father my grandfather, all the best to you and your family.
Dad bought ME an R for Christmas in December 1963, was only 9 yrs old, 10th birthday in mid-March. The day I discovered it about 12-21-1963 we tried starting it, the 2 cyl. PONY wouldn't continuously roll the diesel over. Never did get more than a pop or 2 out of it. Had a warm spell in January that Dad was able to get it started and ran it 20 miles to his favorite Deere dealer, smart-alec mechanic tuned it up, it started a little better but wouldn't pull the 4 bottom Deere plow the salesman said it would. DAD and I plowed 40 acres of alfalfa sod, me on the R with 4-14's, Dad on our Super M-TA pulling 3-14's about twice as fast, 3rd gear, 5 mph. I'M in 2nd with the R, had to stop and shift to 1st on a couple hills. The township road Commissioner REALLY wanted the R to drag roads and rototill scarified roads. He had a 5 ft heavy duty rototiller to chew up chunks of oiled dirt chunks. He tore the PTO out of the R 4 times in 4 years and got rid of it for a 770 Oliver diesel that I was still running 10 years later, probably still running! Neighbor had a 730 diesel, that V4 Pony whizzed that diesel over WAY faster than the 2 cyl in the R did. Dad had the same mechanic tune-up our 4010 diesel, it struggled to pull our 12 ft disc in plowed ground. Dad had an old neighbor come over one night and rebuilt the inj pump on the 4010. It jumped from struggling to pull our same 12 ft disk in 4th or 5th gear to running 7th gear, till it blew the head gasket. Dad had next to the last bid on a J.I. Case 930 diesel the week before he bought the 4010, I think he should have raised his bid on the Case! He was actually looking for an 806 diesel, looking over most of Illinois and eastern Iowa but not a single one on auction or a dealer's lot.
You never mentioned checking the coolant. I hope you did before starting it. Kind of surprised it started so easily on the old fuel. As a kid on the farm, we had an old Minneapolis-Moline combine that wasn't being used anymore. It had a V4 Wisconsin engine on it. I always hand cranked to start it once in a while (had no electric start like the newer Wisconsin's). It was kind of temperamental, so sometimes i got it started easily, but IF NOT. hooked one of our JD's to it with a flat belt like you did here.
Mad respect for your mechanical skills and love the video...but I gotta ask (maybe someone already has)...The John Deere R....originally made for pirates? You know, cuz...well...
Looks may be deceiving...All 4 tires are flat. And when we came back, the fronts only hold air for a few hours. The rear tires hold are, however they are extreme weather checked and cracked. So it needs new rubber all around.
Loud,... But sounds sooo good. The thing about Diesels is thy can sit decades and with a little knuckle rubbing most times they will come back to life. That's a nice find.... If it were me,. I'd get it home and just run all that old fuel out and when almost empty top it off with fresh and sweeten it up. Oh, and Change The Oil... First,. unless the oil looked like it was fresh, and parked right after it was changed. And if the oil pressure is any indication, being 20 Lbs, that engine may be in pretty good shape.
Yes, we're very happy to have had the chance to buy it. We already drained about 8 more gallons of old diesel out of it and will be replacing fuel filters and bleeding the system this weekend. Either way, it seems to be a good runner and with a little time pulling a load it should clear up
We're happy to have it. And yes, the other lever controls the shutters... But I do not have them installed. They aren't needed since I don't run kerosene. On one of our other tractors we had the shutters installed and found it that someone accidently closed them and we had been operating it in the summer heat with them closed for a while. Ever since then, we don't install the shutters. We just have them sitting in our parts shelves collecting dust.
@@jonelsonster I just finished selling my late brothers machinery and he had a B with that extra lever. Someone that came to look at the stuff asked me about it and I really had no idea. Thanks for the reply
I don't know if you noticed it but the spline on the crankshaft to flywheel is shot. you can see the sack in it when you first checked to see if it was stuck. I'm guessing that's why it was parked. Don't run it that way, bad things can happen! It's repairable but not simple. It's a common disease on all those 2 cyl diesels.
It could just be an optical illusion on the video, lets hope! BTW great catch! I've always wanted to add a 720 or 820/30 to my stable, just never could find one I could afford or in decent shape! Also, Merry Christmas guys.@@jonelsonster
Definitely had the strongest exhaust fumes of any tractor i ever owned, you had to be quick to hook up an implement in a shed or shut the tractor off otherwise she will gas you.
The 'R' had a toolbox under the seat, which saved my life when I became trapped in a spring loaded hitch on a one bottom International 26" breaking plow.
That's cool. I've seen photos of dune of these 830-Industrial tractors with the front bumper. I think they look awesome. I think it'd be fun to build a replica and put it on mine. Or if curiosity, what happened with the one your dad bought?
I think deciding to go the belt pulley start route was key. Luckily the pony motor does run, but it was nice just using the A to Crank the engine over fast enough and for long enough that it would start.
Interesting that as a kid in the 60's I don't ever remember seeing anybody farm with an R, even though I lived in the hearf of John Deere country. They were so clunky compared to "The New Generation Tractors" 4010, etc., that they were almost obsolete. They were cool tractors however. We had a 4010, 730 and 520; my brothers and we always fought over who got to drive the 4010.
Important to consider is That the belt must be mounted on the 2 pulleys crosswíse in order to respect the driven tractores correct rotation. Both tractores pulleys turn counterclockwise, Both tractors are confronted head to head so the belt must mounted cross wise in orden to drive the dead tractors puleys in the correct direction
Just twist the belt. You can see in the video that's it's twisted. The clutch pulley on the R and the A both spin clockwise. The flywheels spin counterclockwise, when looking at them face on. Or start it with a model H. It spins counterclockwise.
What kind of diesel do you guys use in the US? Because where I live we get bio diesel. When you let it sit too long algae can form in the fuel tank and all fuel lines. Best practice is to drain all the diesel and flush all lines before attempting any start.
Can't believe anyone would abandon such a machine......Any of the other stuff for sale? I like old trucks, tractors, engines and other stuff I really don't need.....😃
It's a sad story. The previous owner of all the equipment here became ill and passed away. A lot of projects left unfinished, not out of desire... But necessity.
If some jd diesels are 500 cdi that's like two Chevy 6 cylinder 250's one on each side. A couple cans of Resoloane or Marvel mystery oil free up rings . And use the old model / pre 2k diesel motor oil otherwise loose all rubber seals and NO low sulfur fuels or seals dry and crack also ...
@@jonelsonster You said you snagged the yellow one also .Good save look at the manufacturer tag J D might have a historical library you can see her history In some cases the Air Force used them as tugs for moving aircraft or a construction company to tow a 11 wheeled packer or fuel tank for evening fillups . Oh a quart of two stroke oil counters the low sulfur stuff, or check the red stuff on sulfur content and adjust..
That's really neat. I imagine it's hard to find spare parts outside the United States. But I think it's cool that John Deere exported several of these old tractors to Mexico and South America back in the day.
The R is the predecessor to the 830. It came out about 10 years after the R was built. After the R came the 80. Then the 820. And finally the 830. Slight improvements came with each model. Then after the 830 came the 4020, which is an entirely new tractor.
Yes, we didn't want to mess around with the pup engine in the field. So that's why we used the belt pulley. But we've since got the pup running and it will start on that now
I'm 71 years old. When I was 18 I bought a 1949 Model R out of a scrap yard. Was told "That old thing don't run". Put fuel in it, bled the fuel system, started it with the pony and drove it home! Guy who owned the scrap yard thought he just had to have it back. No deal, it's mine now chum!! What is the purpose of the hydraulic-looking pump on the left side of the engine? I know mine didn't have that.
anything that has set a long is going 2 smoke U might have 2 run it a week or more be 4 it clears up that's just the way they are most of those old tractors didn't have alot of oil pressure it just the way they were made and U couldn't turn the oil pump up at least the motor wasn't stuck 4 as long it has been setting 😊😊 the tractor 🚜 😊 is singing 🎶 😊 so let it do so I don't think 🤔😊 that tractor was used that much they got another tractor 🚜 W more HP tractors started going 2 more HP in the late 195OS and there on most of those old gauges were replaced after they weren't no good I don't know if there is any body that restores old gauges 😊😊 OMG 12 26 2O23
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Priceless! the smile on Dad's face.
Agree 💯!
Simplicity at it’s best. Never get tired of listening to a poppin Johnny! They would pull like nothing else.
Agree 💯!
Im 57 years old now . Great memories. Sound brings back memories
The sound is truly iconic.
That R started pretty darn good for sitting all those years. Good find guys.
We went out and started it yesterday and brought it home. It didn't want to start as easily. But we have it a small shot of ether and it barked right off. Definitely cold blooded.
Love the resurrection- 'will it start' youtubers. Probably the best thing to happen to the old iron sitting around in the fields and barns!
We went out and got it loaded and brought it home yesterday. So I'll try posting more videos on this tractor in the future.
Loved my old John Deere 'R'. Bought for $1500 & farmed with it for years, in the 1970's. The old 2 lung diesel ran all day on 5 gallons of diesel fuel pulling a four bottom plow.
They are a good old tractor. And, like your say, stingy on fuel!
I just love the sound of those two cylinder John Deere’s .
The sound of a two cylinder John Deere is iconic!
Soy de argentina 🇦🇷 y tengo un 730 cultivo alto para caña de azúcar y lo uso funciona a la perfección
Wow, that is too cool guys, I really love the sound of those R diesels. Fantastic work.
Thank you very much!
The sheet is in great shape! 20#'s of oil pressure is just right.....good find.
Thanks! 🙏🏼
Good to see a piece of equipment like that,get started back up, after sitting all these many years.
It was definitely a fun day. Really nice to hear that thing firing and trying to wake back up
What a great video…Nice to see a father and son team working hard to save this old iron.
Great old machine that sounds great,bonus that we got to see the other tractor as well.
Thanks for all your great videos,Merry Christmas from Vermont 🌲
Merry Christmas to you too! Thanks!
Love hearing her running!!!
This was definitely a memorable day! Heading that engine start and chugging away was very rewarding!
It is good to see someone start up a piece of equipment and not rev the living shit out of it. These peoples' ancestors use to whip horses. Start it and let it run slow and long. Then slip her in to gear. I enjoyed this Vid guys keep up the great finds and share.
Thanks!
You said it.
Prelepo. Radi
It wouldn’t “rev” anyway….probably 1100 is as fast as it runs. Lol
Man those mountains in the background and the sound of a johnny popper filles my heart with peace!
Home sweet home!
@@jonelsonsterWhat state is this?
@@swedishcrowbar4211 Northern Utah.
@@jonelsonster I was gonna move to tennessee but now im not sure
What amazes me how these things start again ,testament to the quality of these machines
Yes. We were hopeful, but you never really know when buying something like this whether it will have other issues. But it seems to run ok. Hopefully with a little workout this spring the slight misfire it has will clear up.
Kudos to the guy who put the ol can on the exhaust. That simple item has saved many a engine from seizure.
Sometimes it's the little things that pay dividends in the future... Like this the can!
I love watching your videos because you and your dad have a lot of knowledge and use a lot of common sense when working on your tractors and I definitely learn a lot from that! Merry Christmas from Michigan!
Wow, thank you. That's very kind. We enjoy working together.
Seeing that old old boy run that old 2 cylinder is priceless. Total respect. Great video.
Thank you sir!
@@jonelsonsterLike the way your Dad activated the compression release when he shut her down. Good operator!
If that tractor could tell stories... Sure sounds great!
Hopefully we can add a few more.
@@jonelsonsterhow old is your dad do u mind me asking.
That's a beast of a tractor that should be in anyone's collectoin. Last one built was in 1954. Presuming that it was bought and used for 40 years, then parked, it may have sat for 25 years. With an 8" stroke, that engine generates a lot of torque. Just one cylinder has more displacement than most V-6 engines.
Yes, that's kind of what we assumed... Used a lot the first 25 years. Then used less frequent the next 25 years... And then sat for the last 25 years.
When do those 2 "Field Finds" get to go home? I don't think I would be able to sleep until those 2 gems were home safe and sound. Those 2 are going to be fun to play with and listen to.
I've been very anxious to get them home for several weeks now. We actually went to yesterday and loaded both of them and brought them home.
Awesome, now you can relax and enjoy them@@jonelsonster
❤a revivido una leyenda y lo va pagar en la siembra y arado de la tierra❤
Gracias!
Good for you for saving at Tractor and the other one it's a shame to see him go to scrap
Agree 💯!
As an old farm-boy, we gad a Johnny popper, a massey-furguson and a farmall. Give me any of them and I could do lots of work with them in one day. Great video on these tractors...WOW!
That's really cool. We work on John Deere mostly, but we have an Allis D-14 that we've owned since the 80s and it is probably the most reliable tractor we've ever owned.
Great vid, I rescued a running 720 last year ,love the old 2 cylinders . Spent a lot of time as a youth running an R and a couple D's.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
I was 6 when i started to drive my first R to 1984 . Also a's And b's . The Diesel exhaust smells great . It was high sulfur fuel . Many many miles working Fields in South Texas
Very cool memories. Thanks for sharing?
Nice looking tractor, good way of starting it
Thanks 👍
Awesome tractor!!
Love the sound of those !!
Thanks
Agree 💯! Thanks 👍
wow look at that view ... beautiful...cool vid!!!
Thanks 👍
Beautiful find. You guys are lucky. Looks like your dad really enjoyed it.
Thanks! 👍🏼
Gotta love a simple, rugged, quality built machine. This is the sort of tractor that made John Deere a household name and spawned the saying 'Nothing runs like a Deere'.
I would be quite happy with an old Johnny Popper myself, though that R's a bit beefy even for my needs. Then again diesels are better at sitting unused for lengthy periods and the fuel is much less prone to going bad.
The R is very unique and fun, but it is somewhat of a land yacht compared to one of Deere's row crop models like the B or 50/520/530.
@@jonelsonster Mine would mostly just sit around looking pretty unless I needed to drag a project car around or a neighbor wanted help bushhogging. Dont need much power for that.
You can't miss the sound of an old John deere that pop pop is iconic.
Greatest sounding piece of machinery ever!
The smile on his face
Priceless
There are some things money can't buy... For everything else there is MasterCard 😉
That R sounds good, run some fresh fuel threw it and will clear that smoke out. Awesome video!
That's the plan! Hopefully it also starts a little easier too
The R is probably my favorite John Deere. Unapologetic two cylinder diesel muscle. Thanks Gentlemen.
Agree 💯!
That's not diesel. Regular [unleaded] gas on those old JDs.
tractordata says model R was diesel, and that's how they could start it on the fuel that was in it.@@dennislarson4960
I heard 1 of those run when I was a kid. I am 57 years old now. I live near Denton North Carolina. In the Summer they Do what they call The Treashers Reunion that You can see all kinds of Antique Farm Machinery and Engines.
They are fun to look at, but if you can hear them run, especially under load, that's the best! Well... Aside from driving them 😉
I used to have an AR, and spent many hours in the field with that old girl. My oldest son cried when I sold it.
The AR is a great tractor. We pulled one from a field a few years back and got it running and it actually runs really well. (Link to those videos: ruclips.net/p/PLFyQBtxp-h2pFssyUj8JI4zgprBIZREG2&si=O9Vr9Dc8YwaCwMtN) A very cool old tractor. I can see why he was sad to see it go!
Those old John Deere tractors are tough -- and keep on popping!
You got that right!
That’s incredible. I’ve never seen a tractor started with a big belt but you guys have to check the coolant.
Coolant was good. A little low, but the R holds about 16 gallons of coolant... So even being a little low, there was still plenty!
Excellent find on John Deere R also in Desiel motor to and be interesting what year that one is ! In good condition and runs nice too hopefully move on it own power of motor plus transmission too!
I just finished editing the video of us driving it out and bringing it home. It will release next Friday.
Wow John Deer should keep this video for their archive, testament to their brand. With those many years sitting? and on the the same fuel too? can't get any better than that,
Merry Christmas
Well said. Merry Christmas too
Nice find! It shouldn’t take too much to bring her back to her former glory. Everything about this tractor is just heavy duty. Yes, they are cold natured but once warmed up will run merrily all day long.
Fingers crossed! But I agree with you and am optimistic.
Yes sir. That's a jim dandy tractor.🥸👍👍👍👍
💯 agree!
Awesome thanks for for sharing
Thanks for watching!
A farmer in our county had a JD A sitting in his landscape as an ornament for 50+ years. When they sold it at auction the buyer had it running within 20 mins!
I don't doubt it. As long as the engine isn't frozen, swapping the magneto and carb for a fresh one and it should fire right away. Very cool story!
Very cool. Thanks you. 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
The elderly gentleman looked like a kid in a candy store. He looks so excited.
It's was a good day.
@@jonelsonsteris that u're dad he looks like he's at least 80 I Don't mean to sound offensive, it's great to see him still able to potter about and do what he enjoys.
@@martymartin2894 ha ha! He's only 78, but I'll be sure to tell him he looks 80! He's in good health. Still runs 3 mins every single day, rain or shine... Or snow.
@@jonelsonster ah that's good he looks like a hard working man in his day reminds me of my late father and his father my grandfather, all the best to you and your family.
Dad bought ME an R for Christmas in December 1963, was only 9 yrs old, 10th birthday in mid-March. The day I discovered it about 12-21-1963 we tried starting it, the 2 cyl. PONY wouldn't continuously roll the diesel over. Never did get more than a pop or 2 out of it. Had a warm spell in January that Dad was able to get it started and ran it 20 miles to his favorite Deere dealer, smart-alec mechanic tuned it up, it started a little better but wouldn't pull the 4 bottom Deere plow the salesman said it would. DAD and I plowed 40 acres of alfalfa sod, me on the R with 4-14's, Dad on our Super M-TA pulling 3-14's about twice as fast, 3rd gear, 5 mph. I'M in 2nd with the R, had to stop and shift to 1st on a couple hills. The township road Commissioner REALLY wanted the R to drag roads and rototill scarified roads. He had a 5 ft heavy duty rototiller to chew up chunks of oiled dirt chunks. He tore the PTO out of the R 4 times in 4 years and got rid of it for a 770 Oliver diesel that I was still running 10 years later, probably still running!
Neighbor had a 730 diesel, that V4 Pony whizzed that diesel over WAY faster than the 2 cyl in the R did. Dad had the same mechanic tune-up our 4010 diesel, it struggled to pull our 12 ft disc in plowed ground. Dad had an old neighbor come over one night and rebuilt the inj pump on the 4010. It jumped from struggling to pull our same 12 ft disk in 4th or 5th gear to running 7th gear, till it blew the head gasket.
Dad had next to the last bid on a J.I. Case 930 diesel the week before he bought the 4010, I think he should have raised his bid on the Case! He was actually looking for an 806 diesel, looking over most of Illinois and eastern Iowa but not a single one on auction or a dealer's lot.
You never mentioned checking the coolant. I hope you did before starting it. Kind of surprised it started so easily on the old fuel. As a kid on the farm, we had an old Minneapolis-Moline combine that wasn't being used anymore. It had a V4 Wisconsin engine on it. I always hand cranked to start it once in a while (had no electric start like the newer Wisconsin's). It was kind of temperamental, so sometimes i got it started easily, but IF NOT. hooked one of our JD's to it with a flat belt like you did here.
We did. It was low, but still plenty to provide cooling for the 10 to 15 minutes we had it running.
this reminds me of all those lost oppertunities to work with my Dad, now I can't, make the most of them!
I'm glad I can spend some time with my dad. I know I won't always be able to, so I'm cherishing the time now
Mad respect for your mechanical skills and love the video...but I gotta ask (maybe someone already has)...The John Deere R....originally made for pirates? You know, cuz...well...
Ha ha ha! I bet it was!
Dang!!! That looked like a fun day!!!
Definitely one to remember!
Felicidades desde argentina 🇦🇷
Gracias!
Pretty amazing that decades later the tire are not dry rotted or flat
Looks may be deceiving...All 4 tires are flat. And when we came back, the fronts only hold air for a few hours. The rear tires hold are, however they are extreme weather checked and cracked. So it needs new rubber all around.
Loud,... But sounds sooo good.
The thing about Diesels is thy can sit decades and with a little knuckle rubbing most times they will come back to life.
That's a nice find....
If it were me,. I'd get it home and just run all that old fuel out and when almost empty top it off with fresh and sweeten it up.
Oh, and Change The Oil... First,. unless the oil looked like it was fresh, and parked right after it was changed.
And if the oil pressure is any indication, being 20 Lbs, that engine may be in pretty good shape.
Yes, we're very happy to have had the chance to buy it. We already drained about 8 more gallons of old diesel out of it and will be replacing fuel filters and bleeding the system this weekend. Either way, it seems to be a good runner and with a little time pulling a load it should clear up
This what u don't see 👁🗨 these says father 👨& son👦work together working ⚒ 💪
Teamwork!
Looks like a great tractor to restore, good tin and not beat up.
On your A, the lever below the throttle shuts and opens louvers for the radiator?
We're happy to have it. And yes, the other lever controls the shutters... But I do not have them installed. They aren't needed since I don't run kerosene. On one of our other tractors we had the shutters installed and found it that someone accidently closed them and we had been operating it in the summer heat with them closed for a while. Ever since then, we don't install the shutters. We just have them sitting in our parts shelves collecting dust.
@@jonelsonster
I just finished selling my late brothers machinery and he had a B with that extra lever. Someone that came to look at the stuff asked me about it and I really had no idea. Thanks for the reply
Glad I can help
A good save!
Agree 💯
I don't know if you noticed it but the spline on the crankshaft to flywheel is shot. you can see the sack in it when you first checked to see if it was stuck. I'm guessing that's why it was parked. Don't run it that way, bad things can happen! It's repairable but not simple. It's a common disease on all those 2 cyl diesels.
Flywheel loose is or was a problem in the two banger grew up on an old G 52 model I was 7 when I started running it dragging corn and plowing plowing
That’s not cracked, it is manufactured that way, there are two bolts that pinch the flywheel to the splined shaft.
The flywheel does not seem to be loose, but I'll check it out once we get it home. Thanks!
It could just be an optical illusion on the video, lets hope! BTW great catch! I've always wanted to add a 720 or 820/30 to my stable, just never could find one I could afford or in decent shape! Also, Merry Christmas guys.@@jonelsonster
Merry Christmas too! Thanks!
Definitely had the strongest exhaust fumes of any tractor i ever owned, you had to be quick to hook up an implement in a shed or shut the tractor off otherwise she will gas you.
For sure! On my latest video I got the pony motor on this tractor running and started it in our shop and nearly killed myself! 😂 😂
This is so cool!!!
Thanks
The 'R' had a toolbox under the seat, which saved my life when I became trapped in a spring loaded hitch on a one bottom International 26" breaking plow.
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That 830 looks identical to one my dad bought when I was a kid except ours had a bumper on the front which was removed.
That's cool. I've seen photos of dune of these 830-Industrial tractors with the front bumper. I think they look awesome. I think it'd be fun to build a replica and put it on mine. Or if curiosity, what happened with the one your dad bought?
@@jonelsonster I’m not sure what happened to the bumper. It was a long time ago. He sold the tractor to a friend and as far as I know he still has it.
Well what I know about trackers is sometime the gas lines may go bad and the gas and oil also some other parts may be damaged do to decayed rust
Don't see any issues like this here.
I like tractor
That's good
Nice find
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The sound !!
It's a beast!
Amazing my opinion NO means to pre heat any part of the disel engine IT STILL MANAGES TO START!!!!
I think deciding to go the belt pulley start route was key. Luckily the pony motor does run, but it was nice just using the A to Crank the engine over fast enough and for long enough that it would start.
Interesting that as a kid in the 60's I don't ever remember seeing anybody farm with an R, even though I lived in the hearf of John Deere country. They were so clunky compared to "The New Generation Tractors" 4010, etc., that they were almost obsolete. They were cool tractors however. We had a 4010, 730 and 520; my brothers and we always fought over who got to drive the 4010.
Compared to the new generation 10 and 20 series, the R was somewhat of a dinosaur... But this they still did a good job in the field!
Important to consider is That the belt must be mounted on the 2 pulleys crosswíse in order to respect the driven tractores correct rotation.
Both tractores pulleys turn counterclockwise,
Both tractors are confronted head to head so the belt must mounted cross wise in orden to drive the dead tractors puleys in the correct direction
Just twist the belt. You can see in the video that's it's twisted.
The clutch pulley on the R and the A both spin clockwise. The flywheels spin counterclockwise, when looking at them face on.
Or start it with a model H. It spins counterclockwise.
What kind of diesel do you guys use in the US? Because where I live we get bio diesel. When you let it sit too long algae can form in the fuel tank and all fuel lines. Best practice is to drain all the diesel and flush all lines before attempting any start.
We use just normal diesel. It's dyed red for off highway use (no road tax) but other than that, it's the same stuff you get from the pump.
Nothing like the sound of an old R plopping out a rhythm. You don't have much to do to restore it by the looks of it.
Yes, it seems to be in really good shape.
Can't believe anyone would abandon such a machine......Any of the other stuff for sale? I like old trucks, tractors, engines and other stuff I really don't need.....😃
It's a sad story. The previous owner of all the equipment here became ill and passed away. A lot of projects left unfinished, not out of desire... But necessity.
Where did you get the Settlement bowl and valve assembly from on you A?
I just bought it on eBay. It was new. They are surprisingly pricy. I probably spent about $40 on it.
Front left of the engine looked like a power steering pump maybe? Do you know how a power steering pump work on an R?
Yes, it has power steering... But it doesn't really work... Yet
Never knew that an R had power steering for an option. I own one one of the hardest steering tractors ever built.
Oil pressure of 20 to 25 psi high idle operating temp is excellent.
Great! Thanks for the info!
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I saw a model M. is it for sale? love your great videos!
The M is rusted solid. But a single thing moves and there is a bulge in the cylinder, kinda like water in the block froze.
If some jd diesels are 500 cdi that's like two Chevy 6 cylinder 250's one on each side. A couple cans of Resoloane or Marvel mystery oil free up rings . And use the old model / pre 2k diesel motor oil otherwise loose all rubber seals and NO low sulfur fuels or seals dry and crack also ...
Thanks for the info!
@@jonelsonster You said you snagged the yellow one also .Good save look at the manufacturer tag J D might have a historical library you can see her history In some cases the Air Force used them as tugs for moving aircraft or a construction company to tow a 11 wheeled packer or fuel tank for evening fillups . Oh a quart of two stroke oil counters the low sulfur stuff, or check the red stuff on sulfur content and adjust..
@@adhdrebel982 yes, I bought the 830-I. The vin tag is still in-tact, so I'll check with the JD registry and get the details on this.
He bought “an R” did he buy a vowel too!😂😂😂😂😂
I'd like to solve the puzzle! 😂
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how do you find these things?
We found this through taking to some old friends who live in the area.
Aquí en Argentina entraron solamente 4 de esos tractores cerca de mi casa hay uno también abandonado por qué no se consiguen Respuestos 😢
That's really neat. I imagine it's hard to find spare parts outside the United States. But I think it's cool that John Deere exported several of these old tractors to Mexico and South America back in the day.
Was the "R" and the 830 the same tractor,? Just different model years ?
The R was John Deere's first diesel tractor, it produced around 45 hp. The 830 was the last evolution of the R an made a little more than 65 hp.
@@ericvogel1126 thanks for the info. They visually look identical.
The R is the predecessor to the 830. It came out about 10 years after the R was built. After the R came the 80. Then the 820. And finally the 830. Slight improvements came with each model. Then after the 830 came the 4020, which is an entirely new tractor.
@@jonelsonster I'm thinking it was the 4010 first and then the 4020?
That would be a bit harder to start by hand:)
Yeah, I'll say so!
Interessante, não tem motor de arranque 😮😮😂
The starting motor is the model A! 😂
What if water gets in the crankcase. Turn it over and you have problems. Scored cylinder walls
We checked the oil prior to starting to make sure the crankcase just had oil.
The R normally was started off of a pup motor
Yes, we didn't want to mess around with the pup engine in the field. So that's why we used the belt pulley. But we've since got the pup running and it will start on that now
That is so cool to see it running after all those years. Do you have any plans to restore that 830 industrial?
Yes. I'll get the 830-I running and all fixed up. There should be some videos of that process hopefully in the next few weeks.
A Model R was used in the movie Conair
I just re watched Con Air just to see that scene! Very cool to see an old R tugging away at the plane! Thanks for commenting!
One of the reasons these old R's lasted so long was because, they only ran at 1000 rpm, and held 15 quarts of oil.
A full fluid change on this guy is not cheap!
What year is the R
I can't remember the serial number off hand. But I think it was a 1951.
I'm 71 years old. When I was 18 I bought a 1949 Model R out of a scrap yard. Was told "That old thing don't run". Put fuel in it, bled the fuel system, started it with the pony and drove it home! Guy who owned the scrap yard thought he just had to have it back. No deal, it's mine now chum!! What is the purpose of the hydraulic-looking pump on the left side of the engine? I know mine didn't have that.
Yup. These big diesel engines seem to always run as long as you can get fuel to them.
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So you live in north Utah?
Yes sir.
@@jonelsonster you need to buy the mack b75 with the L cab honestly..
Good Boy you Belt Started it Rather than Pull Starting It
The belt seemed like the easiest option. And it worked.
not to be that guy but i think thats an AR not a R as it has the later style bonet and rounded fenders
No, this is an R. 1951 model year. It has a diesel engine. It's an R. We have an AR also. The two tractors are completely different.
oh ok i have an AR to and they looked very similar from a distance@@jonelsonster
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anything that has set a long is going 2 smoke U might have 2 run it a week or more be 4 it clears up that's just the way they are most of those old tractors didn't have alot of oil pressure it just the way they were made and U couldn't turn the oil pump up at least the motor wasn't stuck 4 as long it has been setting 😊😊 the tractor 🚜 😊 is singing 🎶 😊 so let it do so I don't think 🤔😊 that tractor was used that much they got another tractor 🚜 W more HP tractors started going 2 more HP in the late 195OS and there on most of those old gauges were replaced after they weren't no good I don't know if there is any body that restores old gauges 😊😊 OMG 12 26 2O23
Fresh fuel will help too
Off road fuel red in color
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Not sure how you buy an abandoned tractor. Who did you give the money to?
The son of the owner who passed away.