Fresh in my mind is Film Theory's breakdown of the Wakandan economy's over reliance on a single resource to fuel their economy. He obviously bases his opinions on real world parallels but the point is that he ultimately concludes that the country could stay afloat, or even stand on top for awhile, but eventually the lack of urgent need for innovation or encouragement of any real competition will hinder necessary progress, leading to an eventual downturn. That's where Disney is in this Fox deal, and why it _looks_ so good to so many, for now. They've got the winning formula - for now. They may be the best - for now... but eventually tides will change, or leadership will change, and then agendas will change and that's when the most obvious negatives of their overwhelming power over the industry will lead to a qualitative nosedive. Those who are excited for Disney to take on Fox's beloved franchises might well be right to be excited in the short term, and I'm sure they'll revel in the benefits of the changeover for that time, but in the long term this kind of thing has traditionally led to disaster. It seems a little too appropriate sometimes that Disney's trademark is a castle.
I don't think Disney can have a Monopoly. Because of Viacom & Warner. They own just as much. I'm glad Disney got Fox because the way I see it Fox was trying to take Marvel's property from them they were one step away from calling their movies "Fox's X-Men"
We would’ve missed out on so many characters if marvel bought dc Thanos is kind of a clone in every way though his personality his motives they’ve all been seen before with not much change that’s why thanos as a villan has always turned me off honestly and I could never get into the infinity gauntlet series
NerdSync Well for once it's not wrong. Also while I haven't read all the Marvel/DC crossover event books I don't believe this would have been a great thing in the long run. Because yes monopolies are bad! It's the same reason why I don't like Disney is buying up almost every single franchise. Try as they might uniformity happens when a corporation takes over too many things and it would have been really weird reading a Justice League book that read like an X-men book. (Especially if Wonder Woman kept dying like Jean) 😥 So why it is a interesting story I am very glad it didn't happened.
Totally agreed, wish they would stay separate now. Bendis taking over the best Superman in decades and cancelling Super Sons is not great. Especially since Teen Titans/Super Sons is going to the DC Zoom imprint for politics for children or something, think DC Ink is politics for teens.
You all forget, that other publishing houses like image comics and Boom studios are rising to dc and marvel's level of popularity, so there still a potential rival for both marvel and dc
I think pop culture would be very different. It's possible that comics in general would have become far less popular if Marvel got a bigger monopoly, which would mean less variety. People could have gotten sick of the same stuff and abandoned comics altogether.
Friggin Boom Toys -- I think a combine like *IMAGE COMICS* would have happened a lot sooner, and possibly been better. Might have helped out others too, like *DARK HORSE* and *MILESTONE* for instance.
Well there’s always a way to have a monopoly without competition that’s good Look at wwf They made 2 different wrestling shows To compete with each other since they devoured the competition And it went really well At first... But eventually they become inseparable And that’s very bad...
Güdt. 😁 Actually, when I first subscribed, I'm sure I thought the name of your channel was *_COMIC MISCONCEPTIONS_* ... It took me a while to realize it was *NerdSync* instead. 😇
Something I never understood about Superman, how come kryptonite doesn't effect humans? They're radioactive rocks; it's not like we have natural radiation shielding!
This is a refreshing, fantastic video! I love all the subtle editing tricks you use to enhance the flow of ideas here (my personal favorite being the VHS-quality flashback, that was gold). These misconception-debunking videos are the heart of your channel, and I’m glad to see the name return. All around, bravo!
As someone who also makes videos I know how annoying that is. You have an awesome video but all you can think about is the 1.5 second mistake. Don't stress though, video rules still
Also Imagine if they tied the justice society to Magneto and the holocaust. After all the jsa were a superhero team active during ww2 who fought against Adolf Hitler just like Captain America and Wolverine so maybe they could easily explain that the jsa did indeed fight during ww2 with them having fought in the European Theatre and having helped liberate a Nazi concentration camp possibly the same concentration camp that Magneto had been sent to. They could still easily keep the fact that Magneto had been in Auschwitz as when the Soviets were pushing back the Nazis realizing that if they got caught by the Soviets and their crimes at Auschwitz were revealed that they would likely be executed by the Soviets out of revenge as unlike the western allies the Soviets were bent on revenge against the Nazis for invading their country and enslaving and attempting to kill them so the Nazis sent most of the surviving Jewish people and other minorities to concentration camps further in Germany such as Buchenwald or Mauthassen or Dachau where many of the Jewish people who hadn’t been killed or starved to death or been exhausted to death were eventually liberated by American soldiers so they could easily explain that Magneto was one of those people who were sent to concentration camps further in Germany such as Dachau, Buchenwald, and Mauthassen and survived long enough to be liberated by the justice society. It could also show what the justice society thought about seeing the horrors that the Nazis had done to innocent people but because they were fighting against Hitler and are shown to not be anti semites they would probably be horrified at what they saw and because they are heroes they would probably be doing all they could to help the survivors. It would also show what Magneto possibly thought about the justice society as although he thought that all humans hated mutants due to his own experiences in the holocaust in one episode in X-men evolution despite being enemies with Wolverine he let him go due to Wolverine having helped liberate and save Magneto from the Nazis and in some Marvel Comics Magneto respects Captain America and thinks of him as the only good human who cares about mutants so maybe they could explain that Magneto respects the justice society and thinks of them as among the very few humans who are actually good as maybe not only had they helped liberate him from the concentration camp but maybe also were kind to him and that Magneto never forgot their kindness towards him. Then Magneto could actually become an ally of the justice society and actually helping them to return the favor. He would actually be somewhat similar to Black Adam in the comics as Black Adam was both a foe of the justice society and even a ally and member of the justice society when he briefly turned over a new leaf so it could happen with Magneto as well. I would also like for the justice society not initially recognizing him due to his helmet but after him being defeated he recognizes the justice society and reveals his identity to them. In the 80s Magneto was like today going through a redemption arc. I would also like for the villains that Magneto and the jsa fought to be the injustice society with all of the former members of the team up to that point in time. I would also think that they would actually keep deaging Batman and Superman as they wanted to keep them young thus like in real life retconning their stories and removing Heleana Wayne aka Huntress from the timeline and they would still unify earth 1 and earth 2 together. However since Wonder Woman was a god who typically doesn’t age they could keep her backstory of having fought in ww2 and having been a member of the justice society and keep Lyta Trevor aka Fury her and Steve Trevor’s daughter thus making her the maternal grandmother of Daniel Hall and having Liberty Belle and Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado also having been members of the jsa but other than that I think that they would keep the jsa lineup the same as had been before in comics. Other than that the children and grandchildren of the jsa such as Hector Hall aka Silver Scarab or in this case Hawkman like his father would remain the same and remain canon. However I would also make Kent V Nelson aka Dr Fate be instead of Dr Fates great nephew his and his wife Inzas paternal grandson as since he was old enough to be their great nephew he could also be old enough to be their grandson which we could explain as that after the jsa retired Kent and Inza got married and had a son together possibly named either Sven Nelson after Kent’s father or Kent Nelson Jr and then that son grew up and then had a son of his own who he named Kent V Nelson after his father and then when he got older Kent V Nelson took on his grandparents mantle of Dr Fate to continue their legacy and later joined the jsa and dc comic’s actually planned on having Jay Garrick have a son who would like his father inherit speed abilities and would call himself the silver streak but because Jay Garrick had been appearing in a lot of dc comics in earth 2 for over 2 decades without a child appearing they decided to not do so. However in the recent reboot they introduced Judy Garrick aka Boon who was Jay and Joan’s daughter so I would keep her in this version as well. However I would have him appear in dc comics as well. It could easily explain it by saying that after the jsa retired Jay and Joan got married and had two children named Judy and either John or Josh Garrick in the late 1940s and early 1950s and when they grew up they decided to take on their fathers legacy by becoming superheroes as well and imagine if they became friends with Todd and Jade just like their fathers Jay and Alan are friends. I would however keep Wesley Dodds aka Sandman, Jim Corrigan aka Specter, Charles Mcnider aka Dr Midnite, Johnny Thunder and Thunderbolt, and Terry Solane aka Mr Terrific childless with them being succeeded by either Beth Chapel or Peter Cross aka Dr Midnite, Sandy Hawkins aka Sandman Wesley’s nephew, Cripus Allen as Specter, Michael Holt as Mr Terrific, and Jakeem Thunder and Thunderbolt. I would also keep Jay, Alan, and Ted as members of the jsa along with Dinah Drake aka Black Canary and Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado and Liberty Belle and Al Pratt aka Atom as well and I would keep Atom, and Black Canary alive as members of the jsa and I would also keep Rex Tyler aka Hourman and Carter Hall aka Hawkman and Sheyera Saunders Hall aka Hawkgirl and Ted Knight aka Starman and Johnny Thunder and Thunderbolt and Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman alive as well but they would be retired or in wonder woman’s case a member of the justice league. I would keep Specter, Sandman, Dr Midnite, Mr Terrific, and Dr Fate dead as they died in dc comics while the rest of the jsa will remain alive as I would want to see them have a good relationship with their grandchildren and children and I would want Atom to be able to be with his son Grant. I would also Keep Brainwave, Icicle, Fiddler, and Gambler dead as they died in dc comics with the rest of the injustice society remaining alive and with Shade and Molly Mayne aka Harlequin reforming and becoming allies with the justice society and with Harlequin still marrying Alan like she did in the comics. It would also not help that Vandal Savage was a Nazi who helped Adolf Hitler rise to power thus also possibly being another motivation for Magneto to fight the injustice society due to his understandable hate of the Nazis due to his experience in the Holocaust when the Nazis horribly mistreated him and killed his family.
Members of the jsa in the 1940s and 1950s. Jay Garrick aka Flash founding member. Alan Scott aka Green Lantern founding member. Kent Nelson aka Dr Fate founding member. Jim Corrigan aka Specter founding member. Wesley Dodds aka Sandman founding member. Rex Tyler aka Hourman founding member. Carter Hall aka Hawkman founding member. Al Pratt aka Atom founding member. Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado. Ted Knight aka Starman. Terry Solane aka Mr Terrific. Charles Mcnider aka Dr Midnite. Johnny Thunder and Thunderbolt. Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman. Ted Grant aka Wildcat. Dinah Drake aka Black Canary. Sheyera Saunders Hall aka Hawkgirl. Liberty Belle. Members of the jsa after the 1950s. Jay Garrick aka Flash. Alan Scott aka Green Lantern. Ted Grant aka Wildcat. Dinah Drake aka Black Canary. Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado. Liberty Belle. Al Pratt aka Atom. Al Rothstein aka Atom Smasher. Jennifer Lynn Hayden aka Jade. Todd Rice aka Osbidoan. Hector Hall aka Hawkman. Lyta Trevor Hall aka Fury. Hippolyta aka Wonder Woman. Kendra Saunders aka Hawkgirl. Rick Tyler aka Hourman. Jesse Quick. Sandy Hawkins aka Sandman. Kent V Nelson aka Dr Fate. Tom Bronson aka Tom Cat. Peter Cross aka Dr Midnite. Cripus Allen aka Specter. Jakeem Thunder and Thunderbolt. Michael Holt aka Mr Terrific. Jack Knight aka Starman. Maxine Hunkel aka Cyclone. Judy Garrick aka Boon. Josh Garrick aka Silver Streak. Grant Emerson aka Damage. Courtney Whitmore aka Stargirl. Pat Dugan aka Stripe. Members of the injustice society in the 1940s and 1950s and when Magneto helped the jsa defeat them and after that. William Zarrick aka Wizard leader and founding member. Clifford De Voe aka Thinker founding member. Steven Sharpe aka Gambler founding member. Henry King Sr aka Brainwave founding member. Per Degaton founding member. Vandal Savage founding member. Issac Bowin aka Fiddler. Lawrence Crock aka Sportsmaster. Paula Brooks aka Tigress. Jordan Mahkent aka Icicle. Molly Mayne aka Harlequin. Richard Swift aka Shade. Solomon Grundy.
For some reason I am reenergised when it comes to this channel and it's content and it's so good cuz this channel is gold... Keep up the good stuff, cyclops!
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I'm loving the momentum of your editing, the pacing is better and you seem pretty enthused dude keep it up!
Δημήτρης Μπάρδας Κι εγώ κάπως έτσι αλλά το είχα ξεχάσει λίγο τον τελευταίο καιρό. Τώρα βέβαια που βγαίνει το Black Panther ήξερα που να έρθω για trivia και hidden meanings πριν δω την ταινία. 😊
Good job. This video it caught my attention with the comments misconceptions title. It brings back nostalgia. I've been a fan for years. This is my favorite platform of your channel you talkin about misconceptions revolving around comics. I Enjoy your other works too, but this is still what made me subscribe way back when.
Man, this video took me for a ride. You're a master of suspense Scott. As for your question about culture, DC comics being licensed out would probably lead to all of the 90's comic culture just not happening as it did. Most veteran creators from the time would probably be lost to the limited amount of slots in Marvel's new infrastructure and the amount of the market Marvel would own would mean that even if creators wanted to part with an entire extra universe of characters to leave Marvel Image would not be able to stand on its own two feet. The concept of event comics just wouldn't happen as Crisis On Infinite Earths wouldn't be made to celebrate DC history and Marvel would be strong enough that a marketing stunt like Secret Wars wouldn't be as seductive. Jim Shooter would probably never be fired if those numbers are even close to correct so the very idea of what an Editor-Chief would be different. Comic book movies would probably just not be as popular as they are today if they happen at all because the iconic, game-changing ones(Batman '89, Blade, X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man) were all made in a time of either desperation or cash-ins that wouldn't be needed or capable respectively. X-Men would probably not be pushed as hard so any character that stems from them past the early 90's would either not be made or not be in the zeitgeist due to a lack of spin-off solos and events(so no Cable, Deadpool, X-Factor, Exiles, Age of Apocalypse). I could go on and on but this comment is getting long.
I'll listen to Scott teach me about anything "comicbook" so I think all the videos are great, but this was really well put together. I like the new editing techniques!
Hey there Scott and Nerd Sync Team! I'm Marcus, long time watcher first time commenter... that I remember. Great Video! NO DEATH OF SUPERMAN!?!? NO COLLECTION!?!? I started collecting in 1996, but It was the copy of Superman Vol.2 #75, that sparked the 3000+ collection that I have now. I doubt that if the deal went threw, that the events leading up to "The Death of Superman" (i.e. Lois & Clark TV Show causing Superman to be beaten to death! Look up that awesome Trivia!) would have played out that way. Long story short I might not such an avid collector.
If you did a speedround video, debunking smaller misconceptions ending with a "which one do you want to know more about" call to action would be a brilliant way to get people interested in upcoming videos and come back for more.
Jim Shooter actually is a nice guy I met him at a convention a few months ago. Also did you use the history of comic books in the 1980s as a source for this video because I read it for a school project last year and I remember reading about this. Great video as always.👍👍💥
Comic Misconceptions is one of my favorite segments on this channel. I really appreciate your interest and effort to properly inform us. The fact that you don't just give your opinion and/or thoughts but use verifiable sources makes the videos not only interesting but also - and very important, trustworthy. I, as a regular person find funny that someone is sued for being successful... Anyway... I'm glad the deal didn't go through not only because of the great stories that DC produced afterwards but also it would have been an Amalgam Comics sooner than when it happened or with a longer running time. And who Knows how the DC characters would have changed, especially Batman.And something else, probably the comic book and cinematic industries function differently, but would someone ever sue Disney? They own the majority of the successful franchises and studios. When would they be at risk of having a Monopoly? (Even though it's by no means Disney's fault that other studios don't make good enough movies at the level of Disney - Marvel - Pixar - Star Wars)
Woooooah, this is so so SO interesting! I never knew this almost happened!!! I'm glad it didn't though, because I love the contrast between the two companies. Amazing video!!
Stan Lee was doing radio interviews in those days talking about Marvel buying certain DC properties, Superman among them. This talk was encouraged. It was provoked by the big "Superman Versus Spider'-Man" comic that came out in the late 70's. Some of us thought that such a move might even save the DC comics because after Ms. Kahn became publisher DC did lots of crappy things, like zeroing out all the long time magazines, which up to then had been numbered continuously since there start in the late 1930's.
this is totally unrelated, but you should totally do I video on some "unofficial crossovers" like how barry Allen (but not really) showed up in the marvel universe after his death in infinite crisis, or the many times that "Clark Kent" and "lois lane" showed up, said something about how there are way more superheroes in new York then their city and then leave, I've always thought those kinds of things are really cool, also this video was great
This was grand. I like the different strategies of the different companies. And would newer characters such as Miles Morales or Kamala Khan have been introduced with the greater line-up?
If they wanted to introduce DC characters to the MU, they should've made team up books with one dc and one marvel character. What crossover would you want? Id love to see an on going spiderman/batman
Peter Phantom If this deal happened, the first "Event" book would definitely be the war for who would be king of Atlantis, with every marvel and dc character picking sides (So basically Civil war but better)
I remember hearing about this back in the day but from what I understood, Jim was the reason it didn’t happen. Wow the thing’s you learn years later 😂. Also I heard the John Byrne run on Man Of Steel was supposed to have been published under Marvel had that deal went through
Huh, a misconception. That's not something you see often on the show.
The disturbing thing is no one in America seems to be concerned about monopolies anymore... *_DISNEY_*
You're telling me! I was one of the only vocal opponents among my friends who opposed the Fox deal. Not a fan of monopolies.
I just keep thinking about in the Lego movie where the only entertainment option is that 'WHERE ARE MY PANTS' show and it's owned by Lord Business
Fresh in my mind is Film Theory's breakdown of the Wakandan economy's over reliance on a single resource to fuel their economy. He obviously bases his opinions on real world parallels but the point is that he ultimately concludes that the country could stay afloat, or even stand on top for awhile, but eventually the lack of urgent need for innovation or encouragement of any real competition will hinder necessary progress, leading to an eventual downturn. That's where Disney is in this Fox deal, and why it _looks_ so good to so many, for now. They've got the winning formula - for now. They may be the best - for now... but eventually tides will change, or leadership will change, and then agendas will change and that's when the most obvious negatives of their overwhelming power over the industry will lead to a qualitative nosedive. Those who are excited for Disney to take on Fox's beloved franchises might well be right to be excited in the short term, and I'm sure they'll revel in the benefits of the changeover for that time, but in the long term this kind of thing has traditionally led to disaster.
It seems a little too appropriate sometimes that Disney's trademark is a castle.
Well castles were a great military defence...until the invention of the gunpowder
I don't think Disney can have a Monopoly. Because of Viacom & Warner. They own just as much. I'm glad Disney got Fox because the way I see it Fox was trying to take Marvel's property from them they were one step away from calling their movies "Fox's X-Men"
Passive aggressive Scott is the best Scott.
It's been creeping into the videos lately, haha
Rabeskywing Have you ever been to Hull?
You should drink less and take some CBD.
I'm glad this didn't happen, but I have to admit that "Crisis on Infinity Gauntlet" would have made for a pretty rad crossover event.
Dude that a lot of thanoses, like 5 of them + Darkseid
NerdOutpostAlpha infinity crisis
We would’ve missed out on so many characters if marvel bought dc
Thanos is kind of a clone in every way though his personality his motives they’ve all been seen before with not much change that’s why thanos as a villan has always turned me off honestly and I could never get into the infinity gauntlet series
Or Secret Wars on Infinite Earths
@@jdn2772 infinite crisis is already a thing
Trying a new posting schedule because RUclips data tells me you guys are awake during this hour??? What is wrong with you?!
Nah, you're alright.
NerdSync nothing is wrong Its just 3:00 pm here
NerdSync Well for once it's not wrong. Also while I haven't read all the Marvel/DC crossover event books I don't believe this would have been a great thing in the long run. Because yes monopolies are bad! It's the same reason why I don't like Disney is buying up almost every single franchise. Try as they might uniformity happens when a corporation takes over too many things and it would have been really weird reading a Justice League book that read like an X-men book. (Especially if Wonder Woman kept dying like Jean) 😥 So why it is a interesting story I am very glad it didn't happened.
Haha 5.50 pm here, Good content mate, I have a feeling Disney might actually buy DC one day.
I'm up even later! 😅 thanks for reassuring me I'm not crazy
NerdSync upload time was 2am for me
That's cool and all but they need to stay separate. Competition brings out the best.
Agreed!
Totally agreed, wish they would stay separate now. Bendis taking over the best Superman in decades and cancelling Super Sons is not great. Especially since Teen Titans/Super Sons is going to the DC Zoom imprint for politics for children or something, think DC Ink is politics for teens.
You all forget, that other publishing houses like image comics and Boom studios are rising to dc and marvel's level of popularity, so there still a potential rival for both marvel and dc
100th like!
Brandon Geddis I doubt it.
Also love the new things you’re doing with your video editing... it’s grounded but provides momentum... absolutely lovely
Thanks! I've been enjoying making them recently!
I agree, you can tell even more than you write for your edits
I think pop culture would be very different. It's possible that comics in general would have become far less popular if Marvel got a bigger monopoly, which would mean less variety. People could have gotten sick of the same stuff and abandoned comics altogether.
I could see that, for sure.
Friggin Boom Toys -- I think a combine like *IMAGE COMICS* would have happened a lot sooner, and possibly been better. Might have helped out others too, like *DARK HORSE* and *MILESTONE* for instance.
Friggin Boom Toys yea then maybe people would read books
There is such a thing as competition... These companies probably would've thrived in the early online age...
And if either Marvel or DC were without the competition that they provided each other they would without a shadow of a doubt fall apart.
Of course not. Is healthy to have two companies instead of one. Great video, Scott!
Healthier to have many more than two, but America loves oligopolies.
Well there’s always a way to have a monopoly without competition that’s good
Look at wwf
They made 2 different wrestling shows
To compete with each other since they devoured the competition
And it went really well
At first...
But eventually they become inseparable
And that’s very bad...
Hey look. It has "Comic Misconceptions" in the title. Yay!
Are all of your next comic book videos gonna have Comic Misconceptions in the title or only this one?
Idk. I kinda through it in the title as a joke.
NerdSync Seeing Comic Misconceptions in the title actually put a huge smile on my face for some dumb reason. Nice throwback
Güdt. 😁 Actually, when I first subscribed, I'm sure I thought the name of your channel was *_COMIC MISCONCEPTIONS_* ... It took me a while to realize it was *NerdSync* instead. 😇
Something I never understood about Superman, how come kryptonite doesn't effect humans? They're radioactive rocks; it's not like we have natural radiation shielding!
DC was lucky to escape. I wouldn't imagine what they would do when Disney bought Marvel with DC under their roofs.
Yeah DC does enough damage to there own properties without Disney’s help
You're the most underrated channel on RUclips and one of my personal favorites! Wish you the best of luck brother!
It's sups, bats, and WONDY
It would be cool for Jim Shooter to have gotten the Legion of Superheroes because that was the first title he wrote.
Yeah, and he brought those characters to life.
I'm shaking with frustration! *becomes the Hulk*
I Once Ate A Taco I read that in Stan-Lee’s voice
Oh boy, gotta love me some 4 AM Nerdsync!
That's how we do it
Boomstorm Streams It's exquisite.
NerdSync 5 am fo me haha just found ur channel yesterday legit...n I'm diggin it
This is a refreshing, fantastic video! I love all the subtle editing tricks you use to enhance the flow of ideas here (my personal favorite being the VHS-quality flashback, that was gold). These misconception-debunking videos are the heart of your channel, and I’m glad to see the name return. All around, bravo!
DC was saved by the bat
Im not even subbed and I didnt even know this video was new. RUclips recommendations are on your side
Good to know, thanks!
NerdSync np
Don't worry about saying the wrong word. We all make mistakes like that. We can all EMPHASIZE with that.
I'm a dummy.
NerdSync ya your hat isn’t sexual enough
As someone who also makes videos I know how annoying that is. You have an awesome video but all you can think about is the 1.5 second mistake. Don't stress though, video rules still
I wonder what would happen if the buy-out occurred,will the DC characters be as diverse and popular as today?
kirby march Barcena Marvel prob would have done what DC did when they got Capt. Marvel.
They still could be popular, i see a great universe with both marvel and dc heros united
Also Imagine if they tied the justice society to Magneto and the holocaust. After all the jsa were a superhero team active during ww2 who fought against Adolf Hitler just like Captain America and Wolverine so maybe they could easily explain that the jsa did indeed fight during ww2 with them having fought in the European Theatre and having helped liberate a Nazi concentration camp possibly the same concentration camp that Magneto had been sent to. They could still easily keep the fact that Magneto had been in Auschwitz as when the Soviets were pushing back the Nazis realizing that if they got caught by the Soviets and their crimes at Auschwitz were revealed that they would likely be executed by the Soviets out of revenge as unlike the western allies the Soviets were bent on revenge against the Nazis for invading their country and enslaving and attempting to kill them so the Nazis sent most of the surviving Jewish people and other minorities to concentration camps further in Germany such as Buchenwald or Mauthassen or Dachau where many of the Jewish people who hadn’t been killed or starved to death or been exhausted to death were eventually liberated by American soldiers so they could easily explain that Magneto was one of those people who were sent to concentration camps further in Germany such as Dachau, Buchenwald, and Mauthassen and survived long enough to be liberated by the justice society. It could also show what the justice society thought about seeing the horrors that the Nazis had done to innocent people but because they were fighting against Hitler and are shown to not be anti semites they would probably be horrified at what they saw and because they are heroes they would probably be doing all they could to help the survivors. It would also show what Magneto possibly thought about the justice society as although he thought that all humans hated mutants due to his own experiences in the holocaust in one episode in X-men evolution despite being enemies with Wolverine he let him go due to Wolverine having helped liberate and save Magneto from the Nazis and in some Marvel Comics Magneto respects Captain America and thinks of him as the only good human who cares about mutants so maybe they could explain that Magneto respects the justice society and thinks of them as among the very few humans who are actually good as maybe not only had they helped liberate him from the concentration camp but maybe also were kind to him and that Magneto never forgot their kindness towards him. Then Magneto could actually become an ally of the justice society and actually helping them to return the favor. He would actually be somewhat similar to Black Adam in the comics as Black Adam was both a foe of the justice society and even a ally and member of the justice society when he briefly turned over a new leaf so it could happen with Magneto as well. I would also like for the justice society not initially recognizing him due to his helmet but after him being defeated he recognizes the justice society and reveals his identity to them. In the 80s Magneto was like today going through a redemption arc. I would also like for the villains that Magneto and the jsa fought to be the injustice society with all of the former members of the team up to that point in time. I would also think that they would actually keep deaging Batman and Superman as they wanted to keep them young thus like in real life retconning their stories and removing Heleana Wayne aka Huntress from the timeline and they would still unify earth 1 and earth 2 together. However since Wonder Woman was a god who typically doesn’t age they could keep her backstory of having fought in ww2 and having been a member of the justice society and keep Lyta Trevor aka Fury her and Steve Trevor’s daughter thus making her the maternal grandmother of Daniel Hall and having Liberty Belle and Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado also having been members of the jsa but other than that I think that they would keep the jsa lineup the same as had been before in comics. Other than that the children and grandchildren of the jsa such as Hector Hall aka Silver Scarab or in this case Hawkman like his father would remain the same and remain canon. However I would also make Kent V Nelson aka Dr Fate be instead of Dr Fates great nephew his and his wife Inzas paternal grandson as since he was old enough to be their great nephew he could also be old enough to be their grandson which we could explain as that after the jsa retired Kent and Inza got married and had a son together possibly named either Sven Nelson after Kent’s father or Kent Nelson Jr and then that son grew up and then had a son of his own who he named Kent V Nelson after his father and then when he got older Kent V Nelson took on his grandparents mantle of Dr Fate to continue their legacy and later joined the jsa and dc comic’s actually planned on having Jay Garrick have a son who would like his father inherit speed abilities and would call himself the silver streak but because Jay Garrick had been appearing in a lot of dc comics in earth 2 for over 2 decades without a child appearing they decided to not do so. However in the recent reboot they introduced Judy Garrick aka Boon who was Jay and Joan’s daughter so I would keep her in this version as well. However I would have him appear in dc comics as well. It could easily explain it by saying that after the jsa retired Jay and Joan got married and had two children named Judy and either John or Josh Garrick in the late 1940s and early 1950s and when they grew up they decided to take on their fathers legacy by becoming superheroes as well and imagine if they became friends with Todd and Jade just like their fathers Jay and Alan are friends. I would however keep Wesley Dodds aka Sandman, Jim Corrigan aka Specter, Charles Mcnider aka Dr Midnite, Johnny Thunder and Thunderbolt, and Terry Solane aka Mr Terrific childless with them being succeeded by either Beth Chapel or Peter Cross aka Dr Midnite, Sandy Hawkins aka Sandman Wesley’s nephew, Cripus Allen as Specter, Michael Holt as Mr Terrific, and Jakeem Thunder and Thunderbolt. I would also keep Jay, Alan, and Ted as members of the jsa along with Dinah Drake aka Black Canary and Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado and Liberty Belle and Al Pratt aka Atom as well and I would keep Atom, and Black Canary alive as members of the jsa and I would also keep Rex Tyler aka Hourman and Carter Hall aka Hawkman and Sheyera Saunders Hall aka Hawkgirl and Ted Knight aka Starman and Johnny Thunder and Thunderbolt and Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman alive as well but they would be retired or in wonder woman’s case a member of the justice league. I would keep Specter, Sandman, Dr Midnite, Mr Terrific, and Dr Fate dead as they died in dc comics while the rest of the jsa will remain alive as I would want to see them have a good relationship with their grandchildren and children and I would want Atom to be able to be with his son Grant. I would also Keep Brainwave, Icicle, Fiddler, and Gambler dead as they died in dc comics with the rest of the injustice society remaining alive and with Shade and Molly Mayne aka Harlequin reforming and becoming allies with the justice society and with Harlequin still marrying Alan like she did in the comics. It would also not help that Vandal Savage was a Nazi who helped Adolf Hitler rise to power thus also possibly being another motivation for Magneto to fight the injustice society due to his understandable hate of the Nazis due to his experience in the Holocaust when the Nazis horribly mistreated him and killed his family.
Members of the jsa in the 1940s and 1950s.
Jay Garrick aka Flash founding member.
Alan Scott aka Green Lantern founding member.
Kent Nelson aka Dr Fate founding member.
Jim Corrigan aka Specter founding member.
Wesley Dodds aka Sandman founding member.
Rex Tyler aka Hourman founding member.
Carter Hall aka Hawkman founding member.
Al Pratt aka Atom founding member.
Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado.
Ted Knight aka Starman.
Terry Solane aka Mr Terrific.
Charles Mcnider aka Dr Midnite.
Johnny Thunder and Thunderbolt.
Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman.
Ted Grant aka Wildcat.
Dinah Drake aka Black Canary.
Sheyera Saunders Hall aka Hawkgirl.
Liberty Belle.
Members of the jsa after the 1950s.
Jay Garrick aka Flash.
Alan Scott aka Green Lantern.
Ted Grant aka Wildcat.
Dinah Drake aka Black Canary.
Agabil Hunkel aka Red Tornado.
Liberty Belle.
Al Pratt aka Atom.
Al Rothstein aka Atom Smasher.
Jennifer Lynn Hayden aka Jade.
Todd Rice aka Osbidoan.
Hector Hall aka Hawkman.
Lyta Trevor Hall aka Fury.
Hippolyta aka Wonder Woman.
Kendra Saunders aka Hawkgirl.
Rick Tyler aka Hourman.
Jesse Quick.
Sandy Hawkins aka Sandman.
Kent V Nelson aka Dr Fate.
Tom Bronson aka Tom Cat.
Peter Cross aka Dr Midnite.
Cripus Allen aka Specter.
Jakeem Thunder and Thunderbolt.
Michael Holt aka Mr Terrific.
Jack Knight aka Starman.
Maxine Hunkel aka Cyclone.
Judy Garrick aka Boon.
Josh Garrick aka Silver Streak.
Grant Emerson aka Damage.
Courtney Whitmore aka Stargirl.
Pat Dugan aka Stripe.
Members of the injustice society in the 1940s and 1950s and when Magneto helped the jsa defeat them and after that.
William Zarrick aka Wizard leader and founding member.
Clifford De Voe aka Thinker founding member.
Steven Sharpe aka Gambler founding member.
Henry King Sr aka Brainwave founding member.
Per Degaton founding member.
Vandal Savage founding member.
Issac Bowin aka Fiddler.
Lawrence Crock aka Sportsmaster.
Paula Brooks aka Tigress.
Jordan Mahkent aka Icicle.
Molly Mayne aka Harlequin.
Richard Swift aka Shade.
Solomon Grundy.
Huh... weird... interesting... but weird...
Wonder woman's nickname, in the same vain as Sups and Bat's is Wondy.
I think I'll stick with her full name, if that is OK. lol
@@wylier Don't you like Spidey comics?
@@hydrolito yes, but I actually call him by his full name (Peter parker). :-)
You are fire! Absolutely love your passion in this one ❤️
Thanks so much!
I'm glad it didn't happen since then we wouldn't have gotten so many amazing stories from DC that happened after this.
Definitely!
Awesome video as always glad I got to catch it early :)
Scott, your story telling skills are superb in this video.
Impressive!
"I can emphasize with that" should be a freaking T-Shirt. haha
Wouldn't this have meant no Crisis on Infinite Earths? Which in turn would have changed our present reality of huge reboots every couple years.
That would be fantastic.
TrekBeatTK 9:36 John Byrne's version of Superman would still exist though.
The NIGHTWONDER is back with some COMIC MISCONCEPTIONS!
Keep it on Scott!
For some reason I am reenergised when it comes to this channel and it's content and it's so good cuz this channel is gold... Keep up the good stuff, cyclops!
I'm loving the momentum of your editing, the pacing is better and you seem pretty enthused dude keep it up!
Ah, you never fail to intrigue me with something I didn't realize was intriguing!
Thanks, Matt!
Your channel is amazing, been watching since 2014 👍
Thanks so much! I appreciate it!
It usually sucks when a factual channel becomes more comedic* but I really love this new style of Nerdsync videos.
*Matpat
It’s crazy how quickly and easily little trivia snippets like this spin out of control.
Jim Shooter looks like the bad guy from Half-Life
Trust me when I say it he is a bad guy.
Amazing video as always Scott! A little angrier than usual but still very enjoyable (maybe even more so :P )!
I prefer to think of it as "sassy" haha
Δεν περίμενα να βρω Ελληνιδα εδω. Εκπλήσσομαι ευχαριστα 🙂
Δημήτρης Μπάρδας Χαχα ούτε εγώ περίμενα να μου απαντήσει κάποιος στα Ελληνικά. 😄Αυτή είναι η μαγεία του RUclips!
Εσύ πως το βρήκες αυτό το κανάλι;
Αλίκη Στυλιανίδη το είχα βρει τυχαία πριν κάνα δυο χρόνια. Εσυ;
Δημήτρης Μπάρδας Κι εγώ κάπως έτσι αλλά το είχα ξεχάσει λίγο τον τελευταίο καιρό. Τώρα βέβαια που βγαίνει το Black Panther ήξερα που να έρθω για trivia και hidden meanings πριν δω την ταινία. 😊
This isn't just a misconception, this is a freakin' hole in my comics knowledge! Thank you for doing this.
Good job. This video it caught my attention with the comments misconceptions title. It brings back nostalgia. I've been a fan for years. This is my favorite platform of your channel you talkin about misconceptions revolving around comics. I Enjoy your other works too, but this is still what made me subscribe way back when.
6:50 lmao that "Nine" cracked me up. Nice editing
It is like the first time I've caught it so early
Lucky you!
Ooh another great video. This is so much better than the previous video. Thanks Scott for making my day
Jim was such a straight shooter. So close to pulling the trigger on that DC buyout
Man, this video took me for a ride. You're a master of suspense Scott. As for your question about culture, DC comics being licensed out would probably lead to all of the 90's comic culture just not happening as it did. Most veteran creators from the time would probably be lost to the limited amount of slots in Marvel's new infrastructure and the amount of the market Marvel would own would mean that even if creators wanted to part with an entire extra universe of characters to leave Marvel Image would not be able to stand on its own two feet. The concept of event comics just wouldn't happen as Crisis On Infinite Earths wouldn't be made to celebrate DC history and Marvel would be strong enough that a marketing stunt like Secret Wars wouldn't be as seductive. Jim Shooter would probably never be fired if those numbers are even close to correct so the very idea of what an Editor-Chief would be different. Comic book movies would probably just not be as popular as they are today if they happen at all because the iconic, game-changing ones(Batman '89, Blade, X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man) were all made in a time of either desperation or cash-ins that wouldn't be needed or capable respectively. X-Men would probably not be pushed as hard so any character that stems from them past the early 90's would either not be made or not be in the zeitgeist due to a lack of spin-off solos and events(so no Cable, Deadpool, X-Factor, Exiles, Age of Apocalypse). I could go on and on but this comment is getting long.
Thanks Scott ! This is you at your best, i love comic misconceptions.
Nice to wake up to this, great background noise while I get ready for work
This whole thing is so sarcastic and dramatic. I love it
I'll listen to Scott teach me about anything "comicbook" so I think all the videos are great, but this was really well put together. I like the new editing techniques!
Love this video! A wonderful return to form for "Comic Misconceptions." Way to go Scott!
Wow man haven’t seen the page in a while. Since you were talking about shutting it down. Keep up the good content
Hey there Scott and Nerd Sync Team! I'm Marcus, long time watcher first time commenter... that I remember. Great Video!
NO DEATH OF SUPERMAN!?!? NO COLLECTION!?!?
I started collecting in 1996, but It was the copy of Superman Vol.2 #75, that sparked the 3000+ collection that I have now. I doubt that if the deal went threw, that the events leading up to "The Death of Superman" (i.e. Lois & Clark TV Show causing Superman to be beaten to death! Look up that awesome Trivia!) would have played out that way. Long story short I might not such an avid collector.
Awesome video Scott!! Definitely make more in this style!!
I'm your big fan of your work and also waiting for the origin book.
I Love when Comic Misconceptions tackles Comic Misconceptions.
Wow, great video Scott!
I waited patiently for the word "antitrust" to make an appearance :)
Ha! I guessed right! I said "it was prob anti trust that kept them from doing it." right at the beginning.
If you did a speedround video, debunking smaller misconceptions ending with a "which one do you want to know more about" call to action would be a brilliant way to get people interested in upcoming videos and come back for more.
I love your editing, keep doing what you're doing
Man I’m so glad you make these cool videos! So glad you’ve kept at it for so long! Keep at it my dude! 🤟🏼
I loved this. Really excellent video, guys. Thanks!
The 9 and 7 minute jokes were hilarious. 😂
Comic misconceptions is back! I'm happy.
Thanks for the birthday gift Scott.
Jim Shooter actually is a nice guy I met him at a convention a few months ago. Also did you use the history of comic books in the 1980s as a source for this video because I read it for a school project last year and I remember reading about this. Great video as always.👍👍💥
Hey Scott. Hopefully you see this. Love your channel
Thanks so much, Juan!
When NerdSync uploads at 1 freaking AM.... You. Will. Watch. It.
Informative, intriguing, yet cracked me up all the way through. I love it.
This channel is high up on my favorite RUclips channel list
Comic Misconceptions is one of my favorite segments on this channel. I really appreciate your interest and effort to properly inform us. The fact that you don't just give your opinion and/or thoughts but use verifiable sources makes the videos not only interesting but also - and very important, trustworthy.
I, as a regular person find funny that someone is sued for being successful... Anyway... I'm glad the deal didn't go through not only because of the great stories that DC produced afterwards but also it would have been an Amalgam Comics sooner than when it happened or with a longer running time. And who Knows how the DC characters would have changed, especially Batman.And something else, probably the comic book and cinematic industries function differently, but would someone ever sue Disney? They own the majority of the successful franchises and studios. When would they be at risk of having a Monopoly? (Even though it's by no means Disney's fault that other studios don't make good enough movies at the level of Disney - Marvel - Pixar - Star Wars)
I am glad you made this video Scott way to go!!!!☺
Very good video. Fun, entertaining and informative. What else could I possibly want?
I think James Shooter’s terrifying terrifying eyebrows need a video all of their own
It's 2:02am where I am and I almost ran out of content to keep me from slipping into the darkness thank you❤️😂
"I can emphasise with that" almost made me spit out my coffee!
A great awesome channel. Definitely deserves more subs
Once again Scott you've produced another gem
Woooooah, this is so so SO interesting! I never knew this almost happened!!! I'm glad it didn't though, because I love the contrast between the two companies. Amazing video!!
Stan Lee was doing radio interviews in those days talking about Marvel buying certain DC properties, Superman among them. This talk was encouraged. It was provoked by the big "Superman Versus Spider'-Man" comic that came out in the late 70's. Some of us thought that such a move might even save the DC comics because after Ms. Kahn became publisher DC did lots of crappy things, like zeroing out all the long time magazines, which up to then had been numbered continuously since there start in the late 1930's.
As always you have another great video-just subscribed.
I love the dc logo from the 1980s, and also i had to waych this after school, it was painful waiting. Editing 👌
Sensing a shift in editing styles, lovin' it!
This is the BEST channel on RUclips!!!
this is totally unrelated, but you should totally do I video on some "unofficial crossovers" like how barry Allen (but not really) showed up in the marvel universe after his death in infinite crisis, or the many times that "Clark Kent" and "lois lane" showed up, said something about how there are way more superheroes in new York then their city and then leave, I've always thought those kinds of things are really cool, also this video was great
Nice video! This was a a really interesting watch
"No grit. No edge."
.....No breaded Superman duel wielding machine guns to prevent 2 Hintler clones from making a mutant Batman clone army. xD
Hey, there was only ONE stupid gun in that story.
Jim Shooter looks like Mr Sinister.
This was grand. I like the different strategies of the different companies.
And would newer characters such as Miles Morales or Kamala Khan have been introduced with the greater line-up?
I love the new editing style it’s more interesting
If they wanted to introduce DC characters to the MU, they should've made team up books with one dc and one marvel character. What crossover would you want? Id love to see an on going spiderman/batman
They had two cross overs
Boom Patrol Aquaman/Namor simply for seeing how they would react to each other being Kings of Atlantis
@Peter Phantom ~Hey~! Ever heard of Waiting for the Trade? Might be interesting: waitingforthet.tumblr.com/tagged/namor
Peter Phantom If this deal happened, the first "Event" book would definitely be the war for who would be king of Atlantis, with every marvel and dc character picking sides (So basically Civil war but better)
MakiPcr Thinking of it, Marvel’s Atlantis must have the best social housing program in the universe :P
Young Scott seem so chill.
How did he know there are 9 minutes left before he edited the video!?
Scott has super powers! /s
Another fantastic video! Congratulations!
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I remember hearing about this back in the day but from what I understood, Jim was the reason it didn’t happen. Wow the thing’s you learn years later 😂. Also I heard the John Byrne run on Man Of Steel was supposed to have been published under Marvel had that deal went through
Man, Jim Shooter looks like a villain in a TV movie in that picture.
Marvel: "I don't want to buy YOU. What am I without you? You completed ME!"
These videos are fantastic, thanks.
I love how he follows a mistake with 'Please subscribe'
A mistake? That's something I can definitely emphasize with.