Can you externalise your graphics card with a USB 3.0 PCI-E riser?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

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  • @TechLabUK
    @TechLabUK  Год назад +3

    For those wanting to know if this will work with a laptop. Check out one of our newer videos where we show you how to do this here: ruclips.net/video/BoY4K8eSFwA/видео.html

  • @ThomasBarnes89
    @ThomasBarnes89 Год назад +4

    Very good video. No flashy intros. Short, professional and informative, thank you.

  • @petrescubogdanandrei6486
    @petrescubogdanandrei6486 2 года назад +10

    You are a hero.
    I keep thinking of this for a laptop

    • @chrisliddiard725
      @chrisliddiard725 2 года назад +1

      yep this would work wiht a laptop, just plug into the laptop's wifi pcie port.

    • @otdosa
      @otdosa 2 года назад

      @@chrisliddiard725 so you'll need to disconnect the wifi card?

  • @TechLabUK
    @TechLabUK  2 года назад

    Big thanks for all the comments everyone. Remember, this is an experiment and may not work for all Graphics Cards or Motherboards but it was fun to do. Don't forget to check out our Discord Community, pop a long and say hello sometime here: discord.com/invite/Dx7xZt5MHF

  • @bel5717
    @bel5717 3 года назад +9

    To everyone who wants to connect this riser to USB port: It won't work. This riser is only a PCIe slot extension, not an USB to PCIe adapter. The USB(3) cable has been chosen for these mining risers because of its low price (high volume production), and it suits the task of course. It is an USB 3 cable, with 3x2 signal, and 2 power wire. Perfect for 1x PCIe. (but does not deliver any power here, only the GND are connected, power wire are to power USB devices from the USB host)
    To connect GPU to USB you need an eGPU "riser" card or box. But it is possible it does not work with a simple USB3.0, it is possible you need higher version USB or USB-C/Thunderbolt. You need to check the requirements of the box.

    • @Rob-wh3vl
      @Rob-wh3vl 3 года назад

      So it is possible to conect a gpu with a riser to a laptops usb c port?

    • @HAn075
      @HAn075 3 года назад

      @@Rob-wh3vl got the same question , my laptop also has usb c , can I do this ?

    • @chrisliddiard725
      @chrisliddiard725 2 года назад

      @@HAn075 no, the usb cable is only used to bridge between the pcie on the computer and the device which plug into the gpu. you are not actually using a usb port. just the cable for conveniance.

  • @rg975
    @rg975 3 года назад +34

    You are a madman using that sata to pcie 6 pin adapter. The riser can pull a maximum of 75 watts and sata power is only rated for 54 watts maximum. Miracle you didn’t start a fire.

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +8

      That's a good point. Imagine how many people are using these inside their builds and not on test benches. I used what was in the box as part of the experiment, if it had set on fire (Doubtful with the PSU over current protection) it would have made a better demo/warning to those who follow especially those adapting SATA to a full 6/8 PIN external GPU power input.

    • @13aaryan
      @13aaryan 3 года назад

      Actually I see this all the time and never see a definitive answer. Almost all GPUs when using these kind of risers are undervolted. Most GPUs take like 90W of power and some even less. Would the card actually take like 75W from PCIE slot and just 15W from the 8 pin PCIE connected to it? I can't find anything related to the distribution of power from the slot and PCIE cable. I think if a card is taking 100W, it's gonna take majority of the power from the 6 or 8 pin PCIE first and then use a bit from the PCIE slot, what do you think?

    • @rg975
      @rg975 3 года назад +2

      @@13aaryan It is widely known that PCIE/riser power can ask for a maximum of 75 watts, but it also depends on the type of work load. Yes, if you are underclocking for mining the riser won’t pull as much power. On gpu-z, it will tell you what is drawing power from where. For example, while gaming, my 3080 pulls almost 70 watts from the riser, with the other 250 watts coming from the x2 PCIE 8 pins. When mining, it’s only pulling around 45 watts from the riser and another 175 from the 8 pins due to under powering.
      BUT, if, for whatever reason, a software error occurs, resetting your over/underclocks, (actually happens a lot more than you’d think, especially in windows 10) it will pull the full wattage it wants from the riser, and WILL start a fire if the connection cannot supply the full 75 watts when it asks the power supply for power.
      So yes, you could use a sata cable to power your riser, but by doing so, you are quite literally playing with fire.

    • @13aaryan
      @13aaryan 3 года назад

      @@rg975 makes sense. I use Hive OS for my mining rig and use PCIE cables to power the risers. But just had these thoughts as my RX 480/580s take about 80W of power.

    • @sounddrill
      @sounddrill 2 года назад

      Is there a way we can limit wattage usage on a gpu? Maybe set it so it cannot pull more than say 50 watt, and kill the performance

  • @chrisliddiard725
    @chrisliddiard725 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing. This is also a good solution where you have a tiny pc with onboard graphics and you want to suppliment that with an external card. In that case you would plug the pcie x 1.0 card into the pc's wifi port which is also a pcie x 1.0 port. You would of course need to find the gpu drivers to add via Device manager. word of warning there are at least 2 different size of laptop wifi boards. The regular mini pcie with 2 screws, and one which is like the M.2 size board with 1 screw.
    As an added thought, there are actually pcie 1.0 risers, used when a large GPU covers that slot on your mother board but you still want to use that pcie slot. Those risers will have a pcie 1.0 input to connected directly to the GPU. The only worry is if that port has enough power to run that GPU. This would make a great experiment to see if those risers could be used with a laptop's wifi pcie connection.

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  2 года назад +1

      Sounds like a great experiment. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @roguemo
    @roguemo 2 года назад +4

    i have a 750ti almost the same performance as the card you have tested so thank you so much for this ....

  • @mikescomputercorner1204
    @mikescomputercorner1204 2 года назад +2

    This method makes it a reasonable priced option whereas a method presented by eta prime despite it being reasonably priced when he did it the items used have grown in price rediculously and these will be adequate especially if you are going to only use a low end gpu like a gtx1050ti /gt1030 gddr5/ gtx 1650 etc etc

  • @DavidG2P
    @DavidG2P 2 года назад +4

    Man that is totally awesome.
    I wonder if a cheap set like this is available for an M.2 slot of a laptop

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  2 года назад +4

      We do believe their are versions of this that can work with that. Not used them ourselves though but seen others that have.

  • @davetherave4328
    @davetherave4328 3 года назад +4

    just bought a very cheap asrock q1900 with 8gb ram, will be putting rx 460 4gb to do a old gaming rig , nice info

  • @Rob-wh3vl
    @Rob-wh3vl 3 года назад +4

    Wow, can't believe you didn't short the card or board out hooking it up on a metal surface.

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +5

      The extension card has a foam / rubber pad on the bottom of it.

  • @susgofres
    @susgofres 9 месяцев назад +1

    The USB adapter, it is necessary? or I only need it if I don't want the GPU to be out of the case (laptop)

  • @ShohosenBread
    @ShohosenBread 2 года назад +1

    it would be SO COOL if you would try to do this but on a laptop instead,like a laptop with an i3 10th gen and 8gigs of ram

  • @DoubleMonoLR
    @DoubleMonoLR 2 года назад +1

    It would be best to change the title to make it clearer, particularly when 'TechLabUK' is the channel name, which gives certain expectations. While it's phsyically using a USB3 cable, it's obviously not using USB standard/signals, but rather just as extension wires for the normal PCIe connection.

  • @enGGamer98
    @enGGamer98 3 года назад +5

    What if u extend from 1x PCI slot (the small one )
    Will it be much worse or it will be okay ?
    And it will be good for crossfire !

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +1

      I believe it will work being that these are often designed for extending 1x PCI connections on mining boards for multiple GPUs but unsure if Crossfire would work, I suspect it's a board specific feature that may not exist if it has only one PCI 16x slot anyway.

  • @semc0078
    @semc0078 3 года назад +1

    What happens when I change the pcie thing for a thunderbolt to usb3.1? Will it still work?

  • @Ashfuejj
    @Ashfuejj 3 месяца назад

    what is the version of the pci and how many lanes? like pcie 3.0 x1 lane

  • @bernardgalimba8144
    @bernardgalimba8144 3 года назад +2

    I have Detectorcatty Professional V8.0 EXP GDC Beast External Independent Video Card Dock Mini PCI-E Graphics Card it uses hdmi to mini pci-e planning to add it on my mini pc has ryzen 5 3400g, asus rog b450i motherboard mini itx has m.2_2 & m.2_1 I'm not sure if I can use this connections to run the dock, any idea?

    • @wallruss2962
      @wallruss2962 3 года назад

      Try the Adt link which has a M.2 nvme to hdmi for the dock

  • @primodernious
    @primodernious 9 месяцев назад

    cant i just use the builtin usb on the motherboard like using a pentium mmx 233 or somthing with a pci e riser runnning it trough usb 1 let say using win xp and some old pcie hd card. would it even run.

  • @divyanshsingh5585
    @divyanshsingh5585 3 года назад +2

    Umm can't you remove the USB cable to 1x connector and put the blue cable directly into a USB port on your motherboard?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад

      No I don't believe so. Someone did comment the technical reason why it wouldn't work before.

    • @bel5717
      @bel5717 3 года назад +3

      No. In this configuration the USB cable used as an extension for PCI Express signals from the slot, so we can call it for now "PCIe cable".
      The GPUs can only connect through PCIe, not USB, so it is not possible to connect directly to an USB3 port. It is important to use USB3 cable, because it has more wire in the cable than the good old USB2 cables.

  • @nadir2328
    @nadir2328 2 года назад

    hello there ,
    but my question is can you use the usb in a laptop to directly connect it , would it work or would it damage the port ?
    or would it even impossible to install the drivers and be detected

  • @Rob-wh3vl
    @Rob-wh3vl 3 года назад +2

    Can you just plug the external card into a type c port on a laptop instead of going into the pci express since they are technically the same?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +2

      I don't believe this works, someone explained the reasoning in the comments previously.

  • @curvingfyre6810
    @curvingfyre6810 3 года назад +2

    Hey, do you know if you can put that usb 3 into a normal usb 3 port? My mobo only has 2 slots, and the expansion is fully spoken for. I don't even need this for graphics cards lol, so no worry about the bandwidth. I actually need it for a firewire adapter. If the riser converts to true USB, then that's a perfect option.

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад

      I don't believe it will work. Someone further down the comments gave a technical reason.

    • @bel5717
      @bel5717 3 года назад +3

      No. In this configuration the USB cable used as an extension for PCI Express signals from the slot, so we can call it for now "PCIe cable".
      The GPUs can only connect through PCIe, not USB, so it is not possible to connect directly to an USB3 port. It is important to use USB3 cable, because it has more wire in the cable than the good old USB2 cables

  • @hassanwaqas3249
    @hassanwaqas3249 2 года назад

    I have have lenevo core 2 duo desktop PC (e7300) whose pci slot has gone faulty and no one to fix it. so my last chance of salvaging the pc's graphic work abilities is to use a PCI express slot as u did here. However i realized u connected the setup to the PCI slot itself. if the PCI slot on the motherboard is faulty itself, would the rise/extender not work?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  2 года назад

      If your PCIe slot is faulty and you have a spare working 1x PCI slot this could work.

  • @YourComputer
    @YourComputer Год назад

    Is it necessary to plug it into a PCIe lane or do you also have the option to plug it into any USB port? And can any PCIe card work, not just graphics cards?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  Год назад

      This adaptor only works in a PCIe slot as USB only extends the slot and assume it will work with any device.

  • @corysms
    @corysms Год назад +1

    my gpu is hanging of the top of my case now thanks

  • @love4ever026
    @love4ever026 4 года назад +2

    can u make a vid on laptop using mini pcie interface please

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  4 года назад +1

      I don't currently have a mini pcie to pcie adaptor as that is something different. I will keep my eyes open for one though.

    • @love4ever026
      @love4ever026 4 года назад +2

      @@TechLabUK u can try x16 to x1, and then x1 to mini pcie there r some cheap Chinese convertors

    • @neverstopz9045
      @neverstopz9045 4 года назад

      @@love4ever026 send him a donation

    • @ClayWheeler
      @ClayWheeler 4 года назад +1

      I got the video of it, check my channel

  • @coolkidred
    @coolkidred 2 года назад

    i have a spare GTX 970, can i use the same? not for a desktop but for a Laptop with M.2 key?

  • @galaxys8pro829
    @galaxys8pro829 Год назад

    Can you do this on a Dell optiplex 780 usff. Because I've been trying to figure out if you can.

    • @galaxys8pro829
      @galaxys8pro829 Год назад

      My computer only has pcie Minicard slot

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  Год назад +1

      I am not familiar with the system but doing a quick google and seeing what I think is the board not using this method but it appears (you will have to confirm) that it does have a MiniPCIe slot on the board so you could use the method we did a video on recently here: ruclips.net/video/BoY4K8eSFwA/видео.html

    • @galaxys8pro829
      @galaxys8pro829 Год назад

      ​@@TechLabUK I will check out that video thanks

    • @galaxys8pro829
      @galaxys8pro829 Год назад

      ​@@TechLabUK Also got one more question Can you hook up a GPU to minicard pcie slot

  • @rodolfonetto118
    @rodolfonetto118 3 года назад

    Can I use a regular USB 3.0 port or is the riser card using a USB 3.0 cable to extend the PCIe lanes?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад

      It's just extending the lanes with a USB cable really.

  • @dcocz3908
    @dcocz3908 2 года назад

    I've been looking for an answer - is this a USB 3.0 to PCIe x1 and can you use any USB 3.0 socket like say a 10GBit port? I suspect its PCIe x1 signals over a USB 3.0 cable and its not actually USB at all. If you know the answer please let me know?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  2 года назад +1

      No, this won't work with a normal USB port. They use USB simply to extend the PCIe slot to the external adaptor. They could have used any connection really but USB seems to be a simple solution.

    • @dcocz3908
      @dcocz3908 2 года назад

      @@TechLabUK Thanks. I have recently seen similar risers but from M.2 rather than PCIe directly. This might be a better solution for me

  • @Jokamutta
    @Jokamutta 2 года назад

    Could this work with my AMD Ryzen laptop that has a USB 3.0 port + HDMI port? I have the AMD Rx 480 GPU that I plan to use with it.

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  2 года назад +1

      Unfortunately not. It only uses the USB to extend a PCI slot.

    • @Jokamutta
      @Jokamutta 2 года назад

      @@TechLabUK Aww too bad :(

  • @informediatech-bruno5766
    @informediatech-bruno5766 3 года назад +1

    can you use this pluged to the usb 3.0 port?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад

      No. It is technically just using the USB cable to extend the PCIe connections. Someone has given a more technical reason in the comments previously as to why it wont work.

  • @AlmostBrokeLbs
    @AlmostBrokeLbs 3 года назад +2

    Can i plug in gpu extender in normal gpu slot

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +1

      Hi, This is what we do in the video. It's extended from the 16x PCIe slot.

    • @AlmostBrokeLbs
      @AlmostBrokeLbs 3 года назад +1

      @@TechLabUK tny

  • @HAn075
    @HAn075 3 года назад

    Bro got a question, my laptop has empty m.2 slot , someone in the comment section mentioned that SATA port can pull 50ish watt , can you tell me if I use this riser and connect something like gtx 1660 or 1650 will it be safe ?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад

      I don't believe it will work. People in the comment shave explained the technical reason as to why. Not tested it or anything my self though.

  • @princessbitch96
    @princessbitch96 7 месяцев назад

    Lol. I accidently discovered that it's way more noticeable when in 144p...

  • @MadWeldz
    @MadWeldz Год назад

    I'm attempting this with HP pro desk g600 w/ xfx rx580

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 10 месяцев назад

    Can one use this to flash a recovery bios on a bricked GPU?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  10 месяцев назад

      I am not sure, it will act like any normal GU that's been installed in a PCIe slot.

    • @cemsengul16
      @cemsengul16 10 месяцев назад

      Man I don't think I even have enough space to plug something else on my second PCI slot since my 4090 is above it.@@TechLabUK

  • @lloydsatoru2432
    @lloydsatoru2432 Год назад

    can I also use it for laptop?

  • @katiekumcgil
    @katiekumcgil Год назад

    Hello couldnt you just plug the riser directly iknto the usb 3.0 socket

    • @katiekumcgil
      @katiekumcgil Год назад

      as the first bit just converts it to usb 3.0 from what i understand

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  Год назад

      @@katiekumcgil No, there is no conversion, it just extends the PCIe slot using a USB cable.

  • @tunnandaaung2
    @tunnandaaung2 2 года назад

    Thank u dude so I don't need to buy new laptop I already have everything except a new graphics card and usb riser

  • @Average_Android_Gamer
    @Average_Android_Gamer 11 месяцев назад

    If i put the usb type a cable directly to pc without the pcie slot
    What will happen ?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  11 месяцев назад

      Nothing most likely.

  • @Adventure_Craft
    @Adventure_Craft Год назад

    ugh im trying to find this but plugged into a standard usb female port desktop/laptop not pci x1 slot -.-

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  Год назад

      You can't. You will need an external GPU enclosure which will use thunderbolt etc

  • @rajkoli5924
    @rajkoli5924 2 года назад

    Can we connect it directly to laptop?

  • @miroslavgurov7685
    @miroslavgurov7685 Год назад

    What will happen if i conect it with my laptop only over the usb cable

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  Год назад

      Nothing. If you want to run a Laptop with a riser check out this video: ruclips.net/video/BoY4K8eSFwA/видео.html

  • @farshadmehrvarzan1176
    @farshadmehrvarzan1176 4 года назад

    Hi.. can i connect riser usb3 to laptop usb3 for gaming only? not for monitor.. only for process game..

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  4 года назад +1

      I doubt it. The cards appear to simply extend a x1 PCI slot really.

    • @debbiebernhardt5406
      @debbiebernhardt5406 4 года назад +1

      @@TechLabUK will this work if you use usb 3.0 built in connected to 16x pcie?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  4 года назад

      @@debbiebernhardt5406 I don't believe it will. It appears it only uses the USB connection type as a standard type when in fact it is simply extending the PCIe slot.

    • @debbiebernhardt5406
      @debbiebernhardt5406 4 года назад +1

      @@TechLabUK i have usb 3.0 built in to a desktop, but no pcie or pci ports. It is a dell touchscreen(not a laptop due to being oversized and taking 230watts) i just asked because it was able to get to windows 10. But the cpu is always 100% busy, so i hoped for 4gb ddr3 gpu to handle excess loads.

    • @love4ever026
      @love4ever026 4 года назад

      @@debbiebernhardt5406 cpu usage 100% can be caused by hardware problem or somekind of virus in it.. try reinstalling win 10..

  • @ridwanahmed6
    @ridwanahmed6 3 года назад

    My motherboard has PCIe & I have a low end gpu, if I use this and another gpu, will my gaming fps increase?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад

      If you mean your board currently only has PCIe 1x Slot and your current GPU is a PCIe 1x Card (Low End) then yes you may see an increase using this with a PCIe 16x GPU but it will totally depend on the GPU as it will be restricted.

    • @ridwanahmed6
      @ridwanahmed6 3 года назад

      @@TechLabUK Thanks for replying, but I didn't mean that
      My motherboard has only one 16x PCIe, I use gt 730 gpu
      It has two 1x PCIe slot, so if I convert the 1x into 16x by using this adapter, can I use a gpu there also? Nobody could answer this actually

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад

      @@ridwanahmed6 You could use a GPU there but it won't increase your performance. As with motherboards with multiple 16x slots you can run multiple graphics cards but they will be independent. Some people do this for gaming and rendering on different cards.

  • @alkha-kd8kt
    @alkha-kd8kt 4 месяца назад

    can i put the pcie to a nvme pcie to a usb?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  4 месяца назад

      You sure can, we did it to a MiniPC here: ruclips.net/video/mG_JQQFww6Q/видео.html

  • @vmirv0games14
    @vmirv0games14 3 года назад +1

    possible works with a laptop?

    • @DoubleMonoLR
      @DoubleMonoLR 2 года назад

      Only if you could somehow access a spare PCIe slot, it won't work with a normal USB3 socket. The cable is only being used as a physical wire extension, and isn't using the USB standard.

  • @snorkelinglog
    @snorkelinglog 4 года назад +1

    Hi does it work if you will use an external PSU?

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  4 года назад

      It comes with a SATA to 6Pin adaptor so if you setup an external PSU, bridge the power on so the PSU turns on there is no reason why it wouldn't.

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +2

      @Halloechen Studios Yeah, I wasn't too worried about this setup as it was just a test to see if it would work. If it was along term thing I would just use the 6Pin from the PSU direct.

    • @THESHADOW97139
      @THESHADOW97139 4 месяца назад

      @@TechLabUK Hello
      So if I make a case, with an rx6800 and its own power supply, then the only cable that will connect it to the PC will be USB3??

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  4 месяца назад

      @@THESHADOW97139 Well, the usb3 from the riser connects to the PCIe adaptor.

    • @THESHADOW97139
      @THESHADOW97139 4 месяца назад

      @@TechLabUK Of course ... I saw the funny questions in the comments 😉
      I'm just surprised not to have seen any loss in your comparison... I had always read that there is a loss of 5/6 fps.
      At least on the connection of the kits to pass the GPU vertically

  • @ezbucketz4604
    @ezbucketz4604 3 года назад +1

    Do I need thunderbolt for this

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +1

      No, just a PCIe slot and a power connector.

  • @outlawfett3530
    @outlawfett3530 3 года назад +1

    Really cool

  • @mint614
    @mint614 3 года назад +8

    this is VERY DANGEROUS the gpu can ask for a max of 75 watts!!! sata power can only support 54 watts! you might burn your house down

    • @Kult647
      @Kult647 2 года назад

      wow, can you please explain better? Many thanks

  • @bagassetiawan1478
    @bagassetiawan1478 3 года назад +1

    I upgrade my dell 9010 usff to external GPU after watching this video.

    • @charlesblack9959
      @charlesblack9959 3 года назад

      Planning to do the exact same with my 9020. removed the optical drive so i can run the riser cord through the hole and gpu onto the case. What gpu you use? im planning ona possible 1650 after i upgrade psu

    • @bagassetiawan1478
      @bagassetiawan1478 3 года назад

      @@charlesblack9959 no much, just ati hd 5570. Because I'm not a heavy gamer. I still can't tell the difference of 30 fps and 60 fps. 😅

  • @nasalimbu3078
    @nasalimbu3078 3 года назад

    M.2 sta ram stroage power rest button

  • @pookiewood
    @pookiewood 3 года назад +2

    I did the same thing with a Gamecube using the Asrock A300 with an AMD Ryzen 2400G. 😁 This is the exact video I was looking for.

    • @TechLabUK
      @TechLabUK  3 года назад +2

      Sounds like an interesting project :)

    • @pookiewood
      @pookiewood 3 года назад +2

      @@TechLabUK Yeah it's something I've been wanting to do for year's and finally there was an AM4 motherboard that actually fit in it. It was a fun project. Now looking at upgrades.

  • @blackfaithdoom9018
    @blackfaithdoom9018 2 года назад

    Well done , short and to much talk ..