It all makes sense since the card isn't slower, just the connection is. So as long as you don't have much data to transfer it works at full performance, that's why this is useful for mining where you don't have to stream textures or rendered 4k ouput
thx for answering my question bub. here I still have my 1650 super from MSI. And I was about to hook my gpu to my mobo. But then I remembered, I still have a couple of these mining risers my ol' buddies gave me. But yo right. the small end is only 8 lanes. And todays graphics cards use all 16 lanes.
I'm playing World of tanks on 1x using riser, no problem. GPU is R7 250 1 GB. Only, to solve overheating of GPU, I use Asus GPU Tweak II to adjust fan speed, voltage... Temperature is ~70° C and room temperature is ~ 18° C. Fan is on 75% and it's noisy...
Keep in mind, not all your PCIe slots are directly connected to the CPU, others are connected to the chipset on the motherboard. I think x1 PCIe slots tend to be connected to the chipset since they are often used for non-critical functions (like an extra USB card, or something) Also it doesn't matter if you use a x16 or a x1 PCIe slot, it will always run at x1 since that's what that riser card is wired for. And you're not really using USB 3.0, you're using PCIe protocol, it just happens that the USB 3.0 cable has enough wires to support x1 PCIe which can be a few meters long before signal loss.
The x1 slot going through the chipset was my guess as well. On z77 like you'd most likely be using with a 3570k the chipset lanes are 2.0 while the primary CPU lanes are 3.0. Some of his results were cut roughly in half and in situations where the PCIe bandwidth was the bottleneck that's pretty much what you'd expect since 3.0 is double 2.0's speed.
Very informative and I like your style of speech. It is transparent and thoroughly I can get it through clearly. Just plug and play then good to go and with simple explanation.
You dont even realize it, This is a very interesting test for us computer science engineers thinking about pcie bandwidth and all the other technical stuff. Thanks for this piece of data.
Vídeo not useless at all, this is exactly the information I needed. Interesting to see there's so little impact, initially I thought that being on 1 lane instead of 16 lanes would mean the VGA is 16 times slower... But no! Probably it is 16 times slower when it needs to transfer data from the processor/ram to the GPU, but after the data has been transferred and stored in the GDDR, then the VGA can chug happily through it without having the interface as a significant bottleneck. Also, as expected, some games are better optimized to load the necessary stuff to the VGA and keep most of the processing there, while other games that are not so optimized for that will rely more heavily on CPU/RAM and thus the PCIe becomes a bottleneck. This made me curious to see how would be the performance if the external VGA was connected to a laptop through its mini PCI express port... Or through the ExpressCard slot. Every laptop has at least one mPCIe slot where the wifi adapter is connected, would you please borrow a friend's laptop and test the external VGA on it?
hi can you give me some info? I have a riser plugged into an old core i5 laptop with no usb 3 connections, it does not seem to run the graphic card at all, the graphic card is powered by an external corsair vs650 power supply. I short the connections out for the power switch on the power supply and the graphic card fan comes on but it does not switch on the screen.
Dont call this a stupid video or a stupid test. This video helped me a lot! I bought an expensive GPU and it doesn't fit in my case. I need to make it into external and using this riser is my only hope.
It's not a a stupid test and it is not a stupid idea, apparently when you ran this test GPUs were not as expensive as they are now in 2020/2021 and I have had to go this route because low profile GPUs for my SFF build are ridiculously expensive now where they are available and so I got an affordable used GTX 750 TI of regular size and have had to change its orientation to fit my SFF case hence the necessity for this adapter arrangement. But thanks for letting me know what I'm going up against, just wondering it it will be better using the 16x regular extension riser.
You can SLI/xfire with a riser card, but not an x1 riser card like this. SLI requires a minimum of an x8 connection on both cards while xfire requires x4.
Nice that it works for you. I have a card that won't fit in the case I currently own so I tried this to no avail (device manager and driver installer don't recognize the card). My guess is the card needs more than X1 bandwidth.
5:00 Because most data is being loaded into GPU RAM. On a 1x slot, Windows utilizes almost 20% of it's bandwidth, and the remaining is struggling to keep up the demand of textures and other video data. Once all that data is loaded, the GPU loads it from it's RAM(12-16GBps max), rather than load it via the much slower PCIE 1x connection (1GB/s max rate). Also, USB1x slot and USB through a full size 16x slot, is the same data rate, so performance should be the same. The only thing a full size 16x riser card slot offers over a 1x slot, is additional power to the GPU (1-4x slot = 25-35W, 16x slot is 75W; which might be the cause of lower performance on AMD cards, as the card now gets ~50W less power than on a USB 1x or 4x open end slot).
this would have a use case for someone who has a laptop and would like to game at home, using a riser and a graphics card, without having to purchase a whole desktop.
Thank you for testing this. I am looking at a way to free up an 16X slot on a server. Putting a cheap GPU on a 1x slot sounds like the right idea. At least it is less expensive then buying a new motherboard. Will be running and Ryzen 7 1700 CPU.
your riser is not working properly, example if you order 10 of them 3 or 4 will come faulty, to make sure riser is working properly you must overclock to max and if it works same as pluged in board then is a good riser, and never use added molex to sata converter cause it can burn
Thanks for this. They are actually not supposed to use the USB branding for non compliant/licences devices, however I think this applies more for the USB insignia than the actual connector hardware. Using a USB 3.0 cable makes sense as they are cheap, shielded and have differential pairs. If you are planning to use this for a laptop via USB you are SOL
So, where people may do this is in a laptop. Its caveat city, but it is a method to equip a laptop with a GPU. That all depends on the PCI-E slot on the laptop which will be x1 and it would have to work at BIOS level.... In this, I would only recommend like a GPU that does not require more power than PCI-E spec - so less than 75w (1050gtx, ti, , 1650gtx, ti, 750ti
Not a stupid test, its a good test. I checken my laptop with on board graphics, Intel Core i3 with HD5500. The drop in graphics performance is about 8% through the USB3.0.
Thanks this was helpful, wasn't sure if the riser even provided video out on a card. Need to relocate a 4th GPU externally just for running my 4th and 5th screens above my 3way SLI surround setup. Not for gaming just my desktop while gaming. This will work perfect. I have one x16 slot available on my board under the sli bridge and didnt want to cram a single slot card in there to just reduce the airflow I gained from a staggered 3way. 👍
Another reason you might do this is if you want to use a full size card because the low profile variant doesn't exist or is too much of a markup, on a motherboard/case combo taht can't take said full size card without a riser.
FYI, these riser usb cards are not meant for gaming. Your supposed to use them for mining and machine learning. For gaming, latency is a critical factor, so you should plug directly in motherboard. For mining and AI, brute compute power is needed. Data isn't moved around as much as 60fps 4K so latency is not a bottle neck at all ... I even think we can connect through a USB hub. But training a neural network with 6 GPUs is orders of magnitude faster than with a single GPU ... dont even bother with CPU, the software libs will get updates while ur still training
Thanks, you video gave me an idea. I have a dh55hc motherboard i5 650 and I could not make a gtx 1060 to work on the main pcie slot. Now with the riser on the pciex1 slot. it works and i can play some games.
This works well if all you own is an older Dell or hp with a locked bios because the pcie x16 slot is only 25 watts by adding this you can draw extra power from the molex or sata....I did a few videos on it and it actually is pretty neat...Nice video btw I subbed
The load is mainly on the GPU (evidenced in the Hitman frame rates). If a graphics application is CPU intensive it's because the GPU has to talk to the CPU constantly.
Good idea but you must consider that PSU in such PC is not strong enough for cards that consume much power. GT 710, for instance, is low power consumer and I believe it wouldn't be problem for such PSU. In the other hand, I wouldn't use R7 260 on that PSU...
All I wanted to know is if it will work connected to the onboard USB port and not that riser like card... but there was too much talking going on... Can anyone just give me a "yes" or "no" answer?
Hi, thanks so much for this test... This helped me alot, busy building a pc where the GPU can't go on to modo and has to be layed on it side. It's not going to be a big gaming pc, but the GPU is going to be used for small/old games and pic editing. Thanks
I doing with 2 pcs GTX 1050ti & the performance like have one GTX 1660 super..im doing like this because 2 pcs GTX 1050ti more cheap than 1 pcs GTX 1660 super..and my graphic card is far from motherboard because i modified my own casing so im using one PCle x16 mount for other GTX 1050ti card & its working..but i dont know if using the lian li extender graphic card cable is working or not if we bending it if there your card is not tailing with your motherboard place...lian li extender graphic card is new technology & expensive..so im using the PCle entender like in this video
not a stupid test at all as I want to test it my self and see if fps will drop on games I make desk case and some of premium riser are expensive and id like to know if using that riser is fine and its not
What if you plug the riser to the pc by plugging the usb to pci adapter straight into the usb port on the riser? Is the usb cable whats lowering the capabilities or does it happen when you change the transfering method from pci to usb?
It's not stupid. I have two 1070's that are different widths, and as such I cannot connect the rigid HB SLI bridge to them. Maybe I can use two of these mining risers to make it work.
I honestly don't care if it works at all with pcie 1x to pcie 16x via usb 3.0 cable, that's what it is intended for and it should work for that. I want to know if it works if you plug the usb 3.0 directly into a usb 3.0 port.
No way. The USB cable is only used as an electrical connection, the data isn't transferred via the USB protocol at all. You also see ExpressCard to PCIe adapters that use HDMI as the connector, for the same reason that there are enough pins, common, cheap and good enough electrically.
Sounds like your powerdelivery from the riser is fluctuating and pumping to much power into the card causing over heating. If your card hasnt the bandwidth due to the riser or power delivery to the cards pin connectors you wont get preformance of the card
I have an older Ryzen laptop with only USB-A 3.0 port, but sadly it doesnt even recognize the PCI-E mining rizer that has my GPU that is plugged to the USB-A 3.0 port also the riser is powered with a PSU and the GPU fans are spinning :( Anyone know if its possible to get my laptop to recognize the GPU?
Hi. I want to use my sound card , on a laptop, is it possible if i connect the usb cable directly to a usb port 3.1 on a laptop, rather than plugging it to a pci port on the laptop? I hope you understand what I'm trying to say😅
Actually, it's quite a useful information since I owns a Dell Optiplex 980 SFF. Because the design of the motherboard and the size of the case, I couldn't use a normal sized GPU. Just one question,if you power the GPU via PCIe riser using a seperate PSU, does it impact performance?
You'd use a non usb riser cable and mount the card on the outside of the case, and use an external psu, its possible, and wouldn't effect performance as you'd have full bandwidth.
It's good so you will not go to that direction after seeing the experiment. Thanks, keep on doing video like this to enlighten newbies but if it is for expansion speed is not an issue but video wise decompression and compression with usb is the main factor there.
USB 3.0 controller latency is about 20 microseconds. PCI express v4.0 latency is 125 nanoseconds (v3.0 latency is 300 nanoseconds). You should have no further questions about performance.
Rx480 red devil too fat to go into my 1155mobo 16lane slot. . So video was helpfull. . . Hot is not good so wont be running games- but it enabled me to unflash the vbios. Happy
hi .. i have pc acer Aspire x3995 and i try to use this card (gt 1030 zotac ddr 5) . the old card nvdia 610 ddr3 the now card dosnot work in MB coz it's old so now ... ef i use this riser card on my pc will work or not . pleas help
How come you can use a USB 3 pointer to the graphics card why do you have to use a PCI slot that's my thing I want to do I want to hook one of them of what happened through USB 3 point out it works with thunderbolt what's the difference
Only just stumbled across this video. I'm currently running my 1080ti on a riser and i've got zero issues other than multitasking is fucked. It can handle a single game but if you open OBS that's it. My computer just stops. 16X riser is the ribbon you people want.
2:22 maybe that adapter x1-x16 could be used if you have only 1 pcie x16 and you want to run a old card in sli ,thats 1 reason the adapter could be usefull
I am a newby into PCIe cards, Would it be possible to connect the PCIe16x directly to a laptop through the USB ports (NO 1x PCIe) although slower ? (I know the PCIe bus is faster than the USB Bus ) Any info/input appreciated. I Just want to use a Data Acquisition PCIe Card with My Laptop
Q: There are two parts to the PCI-E card 1.the part that plugs into the MoBo 1x and the part that plugs into the GPU 16x Can you plug the GPU with the riser card into a different PCI-E to USB 3.0 card or even better can you plug in your graphics card directly into a USB3.0 port?
Hmm.. I see, I want to get a PCIE extender with a backplate (basically a Pcie Extender which plugs into the back of the PC) We are really only talking about a design change here... do you perhaps know where I could get one of those?
Ruski I thought the device being used in this video was USB based? I already know that you can use pciex1 risers on laptops but I want to know if there is USB ones that will work on them.
So, this is using a usb3 cord but in actuality its a pcie x1 to x16 riser card, and this is possible on laptops, since laptops have mini pci-e you have to buy a mini pci-e to pci-e x16 riser card and it will work, the downside to this is that some laptops only have one slot and the built in wireless adapters generally occupy this slot, so if you plan on using ethernet or a usb wireless adapter this would work and its done quite often actually. And if you wanted to do it this is what i came up with, with 5 minutes of searching: www.amazon.com/Mini-Express-Extension-Adapter-Riser/dp/B01FVPITN8
Totally possible, actually planning on building a Back up Desktop out of an old laptop I had laying around. With this I should be able to do a little gaming and editing on it (it will require a power supply however)
Will there be a hashrate different ? My RTX3080 hashrate drop by 8-10 when on PCI riser .. Same OC setting, I tried change PCI slots, set gen1, gen2, auto , change riser power . I'm on 6 pins power to riser
I've heard that doesn't work if they're working on the same process. If they're working on different processes, the slow one isn't bottlenecking the fast one. Makes sense?
The rason this was really helpful becouse I just bought an old server with decent CPUs aand with a lot of good ram, but the mobo only has a Pcie 1.1 or 2.0 slot (I dont know exactly) but the slots are x8 only, so with a little bit of calculation it turns out even if it is a Pcie 1.1 I still have double the bandwith than you have in this video, so with a slightly older card it should run perfectly fine. It only costs about 200 usd and more than half of that is for the GPU.
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It all makes sense since the card isn't slower, just the connection is. So as long as you don't have much data to transfer it works at full performance, that's why this is useful for mining where you don't have to stream textures or rendered 4k ouput
Boom! That's why I'm here! Mining!
thx for answering my question bub.
here I still have my 1650 super from MSI.
And I was about to hook my gpu to my mobo.
But then I remembered, I still have a couple of these mining risers my ol' buddies gave me.
But yo right. the small end is only 8 lanes. And todays graphics cards use all 16 lanes.
The 1x slot probably goes through the northbridge chip, so there is extra overhead and latency. The 16x runs straight to the CPU pins.
Where are the tests? I only see you talking for 8 long minutes! It looks like a blog and not a test.
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I'm playing World of tanks on 1x using riser, no problem. GPU is R7 250 1 GB. Only, to solve overheating of GPU, I use Asus GPU Tweak II to adjust fan speed, voltage... Temperature is ~70° C and room temperature is ~ 18° C. Fan is on 75% and it's noisy...
Keep in mind, not all your PCIe slots are directly connected to the CPU, others are connected to the chipset on the motherboard. I think x1 PCIe slots tend to be connected to the chipset since they are often used for non-critical functions (like an extra USB card, or something)
Also it doesn't matter if you use a x16 or a x1 PCIe slot, it will always run at x1 since that's what that riser card is wired for.
And you're not really using USB 3.0, you're using PCIe protocol, it just happens that the USB 3.0 cable has enough wires to support x1 PCIe which can be a few meters long before signal loss.
The x1 slot going through the chipset was my guess as well. On z77 like you'd most likely be using with a 3570k the chipset lanes are 2.0 while the primary CPU lanes are 3.0. Some of his results were cut roughly in half and in situations where the PCIe bandwidth was the bottleneck that's pretty much what you'd expect since 3.0 is double 2.0's speed.
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curiosity has killed the cat now for a lot of people that never had the guts to ask and thanks for doing it for us.
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Not that stupid an idea, I have 2 motherboards with bad PCIE X16 slots. This is the answer I was searching for. Thumbs-up.
Very informative and I like your style of speech. It is transparent and thoroughly I can get it through clearly. Just plug and play then good to go and with simple explanation.
You dont even realize it, This is a very interesting test for us computer science engineers thinking about pcie bandwidth and all the other technical stuff.
Thanks for this piece of data.
Vídeo not useless at all, this is exactly the information I needed. Interesting to see there's so little impact, initially I thought that being on 1 lane instead of 16 lanes would mean the VGA is 16 times slower... But no! Probably it is 16 times slower when it needs to transfer data from the processor/ram to the GPU, but after the data has been transferred and stored in the GDDR, then the VGA can chug happily through it without having the interface as a significant bottleneck. Also, as expected, some games are better optimized to load the necessary stuff to the VGA and keep most of the processing there, while other games that are not so optimized for that will rely more heavily on CPU/RAM and thus the PCIe becomes a bottleneck. This made me curious to see how would be the performance if the external VGA was connected to a laptop through its mini PCI express port... Or through the ExpressCard slot. Every laptop has at least one mPCIe slot where the wifi adapter is connected, would you please borrow a friend's laptop and test the external VGA on it?
nice video , its not a stupid test, actual comparability is what we all want to know, you are a asset to this industry.
This is useful because I'm trying to do it with a laptop which doesn't have a 16X slot and may have a 1X slot. Thanks!
hi can you give me some info? I have a riser plugged into an old core i5 laptop with no usb 3 connections, it does not seem to run the graphic card at all, the graphic card is powered by an external corsair vs650 power supply. I short the connections out for the power switch on the power supply and the graphic card fan comes on but it does not switch on the screen.
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Dont call this a stupid video or a stupid test. This video helped me a lot! I bought an expensive GPU and it doesn't fit in my case. I need to make it into external and using this riser is my only hope.
It's not a a stupid test and it is not a stupid idea, apparently when you ran this test GPUs were not as expensive as they are now in 2020/2021 and I have had to go this route because low profile GPUs for my SFF build are ridiculously expensive now where they are available and so I got an affordable used GTX 750 TI of regular size and have had to change its orientation to fit my SFF case hence the necessity for this adapter arrangement. But thanks for letting me know what I'm going up against, just wondering it it will be better using the 16x regular extension riser.
The question is, can we play in crossfire or SLI using riser cards?
Brian Dean same question :D
You can SLI/xfire with a riser card, but not an x1 riser card like this. SLI requires a minimum of an x8 connection on both cards while xfire requires x4.
Thank you, that makes a lot of sense.
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This would be good for small formfactor PC.
I searched RUclips for months looking for a video on this topic years back and here we are now with this video being up for a full year.
Nice that it works for you. I have a card that won't fit in the case I currently own so I tried this to no avail (device manager and driver installer don't recognize the card). My guess is the card needs more than X1 bandwidth.
Thank you, you save me from heartache and headache. I have a mining motherboard and I was also wondering about the same thing.
5:00 Because most data is being loaded into GPU RAM. On a 1x slot, Windows utilizes almost 20% of it's bandwidth, and the remaining is struggling to keep up the demand of textures and other video data. Once all that data is loaded, the GPU loads it from it's RAM(12-16GBps max), rather than load it via the much slower PCIE 1x connection (1GB/s max rate).
Also, USB1x slot and USB through a full size 16x slot, is the same data rate, so performance should be the same.
The only thing a full size 16x riser card slot offers over a 1x slot, is additional power to the GPU (1-4x slot = 25-35W, 16x slot is 75W; which might be the cause of lower performance on AMD cards, as the card now gets ~50W less power than on a USB 1x or 4x open end slot).
this would have a use case for someone who has a laptop and would like to game at home, using a riser and a graphics card, without having to purchase a whole desktop.
Believe it or not but I have a gpu that only displays image if connected to a riser.
If I plug directly on the motherboard, no image
faulty gpu as it not running at full speed
The same, i haclve 1 8800gt zotac amp edition
BIOS Config?
Thank you for testing this. I am looking at a way to free up an 16X slot on a server. Putting a cheap GPU on a 1x slot sounds like the right idea. At least it is less expensive then buying a new motherboard. Will be running and Ryzen 7 1700 CPU.
your riser is not working properly, example if you order 10 of them 3 or 4 will come faulty, to make sure riser is working properly you must overclock to max and if it works same as pluged in board then is a good riser, and never use added molex to sata converter cause it can burn
I wonder why your comment is being ignored and thousands are being misled by this guys video.
In fact, I can not understand this video 's about. No test, no thing. Just talking.
Thanks for your comment. That is all I need in the video.
Can we use molex directly from Power supply? Is it reliable? Pls answer... Thanks in advance.
Same experience with an rx460 that previously ran full speed in an older 1x slot. So its either the cable or the board
Hint: The risers aren't actually USB 3.0. They use the cable, but the pins in the cable are used to carry over a PCI Express 16X connection.
Thanks for this. They are actually not supposed to use the USB branding for non compliant/licences devices, however I think this applies more for the USB insignia than the actual connector hardware. Using a USB 3.0 cable makes sense as they are cheap, shielded and have differential pairs. If you are planning to use this for a laptop via USB you are SOL
So, where people may do this is in a laptop. Its caveat city, but it is a method to equip a laptop with a GPU. That all depends on the PCI-E slot on the laptop which will be x1 and it would have to work at BIOS level....
In this, I would only recommend like a GPU that does not require more power than PCI-E spec - so less than 75w (1050gtx, ti, , 1650gtx, ti, 750ti
The x16 slot is directly attached to the processor, the x1 is run through the motherboard chipset then to the processor. That's why it's slower.
Not a stupid test, its a good test. I checken my laptop with on board graphics, Intel Core i3 with HD5500. The drop in graphics performance is about 8% through the USB3.0.
Thanks this was helpful, wasn't sure if the riser even provided video out on a card. Need to relocate a 4th GPU externally just for running my 4th and 5th screens above my 3way SLI surround setup. Not for gaming just my desktop while gaming. This will work perfect. I have one x16 slot available on my board under the sli bridge and didnt want to cram a single slot card in there to just reduce the airflow I gained from a staggered 3way. 👍
Hi Marcio it has been 2 years but did you manage to add 2 screens out of a USB3.0 PCI-E Riser?
Another reason you might do this is if you want to use a full size card because the low profile variant doesn't exist or is too much of a markup, on a motherboard/case combo taht can't take said full size card without a riser.
FYI, these riser usb cards are not meant for gaming. Your supposed to use them for mining and machine learning. For gaming, latency is a critical factor, so you should plug directly in motherboard. For mining and AI, brute compute power is needed. Data isn't moved around as much as 60fps 4K so latency is not a bottle neck at all ... I even think we can connect through a USB hub. But training a neural network with 6 GPUs is orders of magnitude faster than with a single GPU ... dont even bother with CPU, the software libs will get updates while ur still training
Thanks, you video gave me an idea. I have a dh55hc motherboard i5 650 and I could not make a gtx 1060 to work on the main pcie slot. Now with the riser on the pciex1 slot. it works and i can play some games.
What speed is it running on X1 or x16?
would it be worth it for a laptop?
This works well if all you own is an older Dell or hp with a locked bios because the pcie x16 slot is only 25 watts by adding this you can draw extra power from the molex or sata....I did a few videos on it and it actually is pretty neat...Nice video btw I subbed
Is the PCI-E working if you plug it in a USB 3.0 port?
So you’re saying there’s a chance
This is actually a useful test for me, I'm fixing up a old dell dimension e310 and there is no pcie x16, only a pcie x1 and 3 pci slots
So does this hinder the performance when the card is bitcoin mining? Because a bunch of miners use these, if not, why?
The load is mainly on the GPU (evidenced in the Hitman frame rates). If a graphics application is CPU intensive it's because the GPU has to talk to the CPU constantly.
could you connect the full size riser to the PC via only the USB connection and it still work?
This mini pci-e suitable for laptop?
I wanna add an extender card instead, can I? I want to take advantage of it and use it for other purposes.
I have another instance where one might utilize a gpu in this scenario; one could be fitting up a SFF OEM PC with a full sized gpu...
Good idea but you must consider that PSU in such PC is not strong enough for cards that consume much power. GT 710, for instance, is low power consumer and I believe it wouldn't be problem for such PSU. In the other hand, I wouldn't use R7 260 on that PSU...
It is not a stupid test, for a Notebook Is an incredible test
Exactly why I'm here.
Can riser be used on old motherboards with pcie x1 slot only to add a gpu?
All I wanted to know is if it will work connected to the onboard USB port and not that riser like card... but there was too much talking going on... Can anyone just give me a "yes" or "no" answer?
Hi, thanks so much for this test... This helped me alot, busy building a pc where the GPU can't go on to modo and has to be layed on it side. It's not going to be a big gaming pc, but the GPU is going to be used for small/old games and pic editing. Thanks
now my question is does it work on my old laptop? (toshiba tecra a10-1ll)
Can we use this method for streaming as adding a second GPU for obs
Connecting two different GPUs how would it perform?
I doing with 2 pcs GTX 1050ti & the performance like have one GTX 1660 super..im doing like this because 2 pcs GTX 1050ti more cheap than 1 pcs GTX 1660 super..and my graphic card is far from motherboard because i modified my own casing so im using one PCle x16 mount for other GTX 1050ti card & its working..but i dont know if using the lian li extender graphic card cable is working or not if we bending it if there your card is not tailing with your motherboard place...lian li extender graphic card is new technology & expensive..so im using the PCle entender like in this video
not a stupid test at all as I want to test it my self and see if fps will drop on games
I make desk case and some of premium riser are expensive and id like to know if using that riser is fine and its not
What if you plug the riser to the pc by plugging the usb to pci adapter straight into the usb port on the riser?
Is the usb cable whats lowering the capabilities or does it happen when you change the transfering method from pci to usb?
It's not stupid. I have two 1070's that are different widths, and as such I cannot connect the rigid HB SLI bridge to them. Maybe I can use two of these mining risers to make it work.
whatchout for amp tollerance on that sata power adaptors, one must maybe stick to the robust molex plug.
Actually, I am debating doing this.
Seems like it's a "Yes, but it's not too good". Is it really just slower, or not able to properly be used?
I honestly don't care if it works at all with pcie 1x to pcie 16x via usb 3.0 cable, that's what it is intended for and it should work for that. I want to know if it works if you plug the usb 3.0 directly into a usb 3.0 port.
No way. The USB cable is only used as an electrical connection, the data isn't transferred via the USB protocol at all. You also see ExpressCard to PCIe adapters that use HDMI as the connector, for the same reason that there are enough pins, common, cheap and good enough electrically.
on the riser there are 6 pin power whether we have to use sata to 6 pin power or I can use 6 pins in psu
Could try running them in SLI through multiple pcie usb riser cards and see if it improves it by spreading the load...
@We Do Tech, can you look into using a 16x riser through a usb type c port to game on a laptop with a usb type c port.
I wonder if it would work for blender rendering, coz it doesn't really need to output any graphics to the screen, just internal stuff
Maby, it works for mining so why not blender.
hey every one !!
is there a possibility to connect a riser to laptop with usb port ?? please help
egpu
Sounds like your powerdelivery from the riser is fluctuating and pumping to much power into the card causing over heating. If your card hasnt the bandwidth due to the riser or power delivery to the cards pin connectors you wont get preformance of the card
Does this External Riser work with a sound card? Like a 7.1 channel sound card?
I have an older Ryzen laptop with only USB-A 3.0 port, but sadly it doesnt even recognize the PCI-E mining rizer that has my GPU that is plugged to the USB-A 3.0 port also the riser is powered with a PSU and the GPU fans are spinning :(
Anyone know if its possible to get my laptop to recognize the GPU?
Is USB 3.0 better than PCIe slot .
As my PCIe slot is busy with WiFi card and nvme
Reply plz
Sirve para JUGAR FORTNITE EN ALGUNA LAPTOP??
Can it will work as a external gpu for laptop ?? as EXP GDC Graphic Card Dock !!
You think you could use a PCIe riser to USB to better a laptops graphics?!
Hi.
I want to use my sound card , on a laptop, is it possible if i connect the usb cable directly to a usb port 3.1 on a laptop, rather than plugging it to a pci port on the laptop?
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say😅
Actually, it's quite a useful information since I owns a Dell Optiplex 980 SFF. Because the design of the motherboard and the size of the case, I couldn't use a normal sized GPU. Just one question,if you power the GPU via PCIe riser using a seperate PSU, does it impact performance?
Unknown Blogger I have an optiplex too will be trying this next week
You'd use a non usb riser cable and mount the card on the outside of the case, and use an external psu, its possible, and wouldn't effect performance as you'd have full bandwidth.
It's good so you will not go to that direction after seeing the experiment. Thanks, keep on doing video like this to enlighten newbies but if it is for expansion speed is not an issue but video wise decompression and compression with usb is the main factor there.
USB 3.0 controller latency is about 20 microseconds. PCI express v4.0 latency is 125 nanoseconds (v3.0 latency is 300 nanoseconds). You should have no further questions about performance.
This is still useful and we need more video for how to provide power externally. Thank you 🌹 we can me egpu from it.
Rx480 red devil too fat to go into my 1155mobo 16lane slot. . So video was helpfull. . . Hot is not good so wont be running games- but it enabled me to unflash the vbios. Happy
hi .. i have pc acer Aspire x3995 and i try to use this card (gt 1030 zotac ddr 5) .
the old card nvdia 610 ddr3
the now card dosnot work in MB coz it's old
so now ... ef i use this riser card on my pc will work or not . pleas help
Learn english lol, just huse the motherboards pcie slots
How come you can use a USB 3 pointer to the graphics card why do you have to use a PCI slot that's my thing I want to do I want to hook one of them of what happened through USB 3 point out it works with thunderbolt what's the difference
Only just stumbled across this video. I'm currently running my 1080ti on a riser and i've got zero issues other than multitasking is fucked. It can handle a single game but if you open OBS that's it. My computer just stops.
16X riser is the ribbon you people want.
2:22 maybe that adapter x1-x16 could be used if you have only 1 pcie x16 and you want to run a old card in sli ,thats 1 reason the adapter could be usefull
You great. I got what I wanted. Note, not everyone is a "letgo"... Could have deeply gone into practical than the talking theory.
I am a newby into PCIe cards, Would it be possible to connect the PCIe16x directly to a laptop through the USB ports (NO 1x PCIe) although slower ? (I know the PCIe bus is faster than the USB Bus ) Any info/input appreciated. I Just want to use a Data Acquisition PCIe Card with My Laptop
Plug the usb 3 into the usb 3.0 slot on mobo while using one directly on mobo see if the crossfire or sli will work at all
Lol sli, they both will have to be in the mobo with the (whatever called) thing that combines both of the 6P/8P connectors
So like 1 in a thousand? Oh, more like one in a million. So you're telling me there's a chance! Yeah!
Bro pls tell me that i need 4 gb grpahic card for this purpose or 2 gb or 1 gb will work?
Doesn't matter
WTF is normal? YOO MEASURE IN x16 or x1 NOTHING ELSE? WHAT DOES THAT "NORMAL" MEANS?
maybe x16 slot x4 interface on mb
Normal means normal pcie without adapters
Q: There are two parts to the PCI-E card 1.the part that plugs into the MoBo 1x and the part that plugs into the GPU 16x
Can you plug the GPU with the riser card into a different PCI-E to USB 3.0 card or even better can you plug in your graphics card directly into a USB3.0 port?
Hmm.. I see, I want to get a PCIE extender with a backplate (basically a Pcie Extender which plugs into the back of the PC)
We are really only talking about a design change here... do you perhaps know where I could get one of those?
We're on the same wavelength!!
I bought a USB3.0 extension card... will gut it out and see if I can use it as an extension slot.
know will the card run on the usb 3.0 port?
USB 3.0 is not powerful enough to handle the data flow
Is it possible to use one of these on a laptop? I'm probably not going to do it myself but I'm just curious.
Jordan Brown I want an answer but I don't think anyone is mad enough to try
Ruski I thought the device being used in this video was USB based? I already know that you can use pciex1 risers on laptops but I want to know if there is USB ones that will work on them.
So, this is using a usb3 cord but in actuality its a pcie x1 to x16 riser card, and this is possible on laptops, since laptops have mini pci-e you have to buy a mini pci-e to pci-e x16 riser card and it will work, the downside to this is that some laptops only have one slot and the built in wireless adapters generally occupy this slot, so if you plan on using ethernet or a usb wireless adapter this would work and its done quite often actually. And if you wanted to do it this is what i came up with, with 5 minutes of searching: www.amazon.com/Mini-Express-Extension-Adapter-Riser/dp/B01FVPITN8
Totally possible, actually planning on building a Back up Desktop out of an old laptop I had laying around. With this I should be able to do a little gaming and editing on it (it will require a power supply however)
Khalid, Thanks man! looking back on my comment I got kinda side tracked and didn't fully make it clear, you said what I was trying to :P
so what about the pci-E mini card socket ?
What test bench case is this please? Thank you.
is there a way to get a adapter for PCIE to mini PCIE, my computer has a mini PCIE slot but the GPU i have is a normal sized PCIE.
do you think if i put this with a wifi reciever will be work?
Can use riser for pcie to multi ethernet?
Will there be a hashrate different ? My RTX3080 hashrate drop by 8-10 when on PCI riser .. Same OC setting, I tried change PCI slots, set gen1, gen2, auto , change riser power . I'm on 6 pins power to riser
but.. can you run two gpu's simultaneously with one of these risers? one in your 16x slot and another in your riser card?
I've heard that doesn't work if they're working on the same process. If they're working on different processes, the slow one isn't bottlenecking the fast one. Makes sense?
I wonder what your PPD would be in Folding @home...
The rason this was really helpful becouse I just bought an old server with decent CPUs aand with a lot of good ram, but the mobo only has a Pcie 1.1 or 2.0 slot (I dont know exactly) but the slots are x8 only, so with a little bit of calculation it turns out even if it is a Pcie 1.1 I still have double the bandwith than you have in this video, so with a slightly older card it should run perfectly fine. It only costs about 200 usd and more than half of that is for the GPU.
well your predictions right my pci 16x slot died now i need a pcie riser to put the gpu cause i'm on a tight budget well thanks for sharing 🙏🙏👍
Ashes of the Singularity using multi GPU and risers. DX12 multi GPU will be the future.