Years ago I came across a video of a Marine lab where the fish in the various tanks kept disappearing. They finally put up a night vision camera only the find that the resident octopus would leave his tank go across the floor and help himself to the buffet, then go back to his tank. Ever since then I've been fascinated by these amazing creatures. I'm so glad I stumbled on your site. Thank You!
Why not try a different color blocking plate for different holes? See if he remembers which hole a different color corresponds to. i.e. red top hole, blue second, yellow third etc. And see how he responds over time.
@@ginglyst sure? I mean, they change color for camouflage and stuff... sounds ineffective, if they cant see diverent colors by themselves. How do they know, they fit to the underground? - at least, they could differ black, white and grey for example
I love the way he moves - it's so smooth and graceful, it looks like high-class animation. And how he notices that the air-breathers have put something in his tank *again*, so he swims over to it to satisfy his curiosity. And, oh yes, it's the "where did we hide your fish" trick. If I could get out of this tank, I'd go fill their coffeepot with ink!
Very interesting experiments! Some things you might want to consider: You are testing memory, but the methodology failed to account for hope, (the flipside of which is disappointment, exhibited towards the end). I can't help think that if you are an intelligent creature with 8 arms and a belly to fill, it stands to reason you always check every hole. Simultaneously. And if you can smell the water with your hands, forget about it. This experiment could be refined though: dealing with very long arms, the holes have to be much more inaccessible from one another so the "choice" is unambiguous. Horizontally placed, so gravity isn't a factor (I know it isn't as much with octopus but still, science). At least 8 or 10 tubes, instead of 4, would be also preferable. The ultimate is if all the tubes were separate from one another, such that the octopus had to enter a chamber to make the choice and access the tube, and couldn't access any other tubes with its arms. Then you'll be testing whether the octopus remembered or is simply being opportunistic. The choice needs to take more effort for the octopus so it must commit to one of the holes, or have to return out of the hole again if it finds no reward. This will force the octopus to make a choice up front about which chamber to check first, rather than approaching the tubes and "assessing" them all at once. Then repeat the experiment on a regular basis, being now able to tally the hits and misses accurately, to determine if the octopus becomes more adept at finding the snack first time. In other words, you're gonna need a bigger tank.
Booper 343 It was an absolutely critical aspect of the testing though. They had to do that to rule out that the octopus wasn’t using some other sense to determine the fish was in there and not using just his memory.
A video on octopi learning from observing others made me stop eating them altogether. Their level of intelligence made me question the whole idea of what constitute a human being. Is being human really define by intelligence or something more? I see them as another form of primate even if we don't share a family tree. The way they can problem solve faster than most humans has made me reconsider the whole idea of eating them. It is cannibalism.
How is their "intelligence" relevant to their place in the food chain? How is our intelligence (& emotions) relevant to our place in the food chain? Moral (pseudo)dilemmas & emotions have no place in Nature. It's all about "survival of the fittest". "You can kill it = you can eat it", simple as that. Generally speaking, people today are self-righteous hypocrites. They denounce their rightful place in the food chain to "protect the cute-looking octopus/cow/chicken/whatever", while at the same time they screw the planet because they want cheaper diesel for their 3000cc SUV. & they want ME to give up thousands-of-years-old nutritional habits?! Yeeaah... nope, not happening. You care about the "poor animals"? Then set an example by stop screwing their environment!
@@booper343 This is just an experiment tank. They are housed in much larger tanks with a more suitable environment. The experiment tanks are setup to try and minimize distraction and optimize observation.
@@CopalFreak Glad to read that. I was worried these animals need far more stimulation and it would be cruel to keep them in a barren tank. It would be nice to see what enrichment their living tank has for them and what their daily routine is re feeding etc when they are not "working" so to speak.
Glen Graham This video clip answers your concerns. All octopuses at this same place are housed to this similar tank: ruclips.net/video/SKeIpejc2Hc/видео.html
I'm so glad someone is finally telling the world how smart octopuses are! I despise seeing them eaten live, knowing what I know, but they must be terribly bored in those tanks. I hate seeing the real big ones in aquariums where they have no room to stretch out. But this is progress!
Mardi Taylor If they were smart, and I’m thinking these people are fairly smart, they would have used new tubes or switched to order of the tubes to make sure it wasn’t fish residue the octopus was going after. If I can think about changing the tubes, I’m sure PhD’s will have thought of it.
Jessika Rawlings I don’t know what you’re seeing, but I don’t see any markings. IF, and that’s a really big if, they are the same tubes every time, I’m am betting they’ve been thoroughly washed (both for the health of the octopus and for the testing). If the lab can’t remove all other reasons why the octopus is choosing the same tube, other than memory, then they have no business running experiments and deserve to have every cent of grant money removed. Removing all other variables other than the one you’re testing for is experimentation 101.
I wonder if the exploration of the other tubes in the earlier experiments was because he was thinking that you'd be tricking him into having to find the fish somewhere else each time, rather than being unsure of his memory? The 'blooper reel' didn't surprise me - they're clever and crafty creatures!
Mandy B If I found a snack in one tube, I’d certainly be checking the others for goodies too. I’m betting the octopus was thinking this way too. Later on in the testing the octopus did less exploring of the other tubes. Animals can’t reason that someone might be trying to trick them.
@@janedoe6181 Don't underestimate octopi. In the wild humans and nonhuman animals are always tricking one another so yes, other species do have the the capacity of reason as humans do to know when someone or something is going to trick them or not... otherwise how else would they be able survive in a world where everyone and everything either wants to eat you or simply just kill you for the LOLs.
Clearly a memory. At 15 days, realizing there is no fish he double-check, proof he was expecting something from that specific hole (and we can not expect something without some kind of memory). That behavior wasn't there for the other holes. When sure the source is empty he just leave, another proof he taught he knew the others were supposed to be empty. To my eyes those are 2 proofs of memory.
Maybe he's checking all of the tubes to see if y'all added one or more as a new test, an extra twist or just as a treat. I'm soooo happy I found your channel! I LOVE octopi! God did a wonderful job with them. Thanks for generously sharing your octopi world with us! God Bless!
It must be quite an adventure trying to devise tests for a creature with 8 arms, the ability to multitask, squeeze through tiny spaces, and possesses the raw strength to just crush small objects that frustrate it - lmfao! I feel this test would better serve if the holes were placed such that the octopus could not reach all of them at once. Tubes at either end of a tank so you could see which set he approached first would give a more definitive answer. This test provokes in me the questions of; "Does he have a favourite arm to search with?" and "Do you get the same results with a horizontally placed set of tubes as with a vertical one?".
In the case of Octopus vs Octolab TV, I rule in favour of the plaintiff. In the agreed statement of facts, on Day 15, Octolab TV did place 4 empty tubes into the testing tank, hereby violating the unwritten understanding that Octopus participates in these experiments solely because he is paid for doing so by finding a fish in the end. Having violated the spirit of this agreement on this occasion, Octolab TV is hereby ordered to immediately and without delay, provide Octopus with no less than 10 fish. Double damages are also ordered, due to the fact that it was a dirty rotten trick to lead Octopus, over the previous 14 days, to expect that a fish would 100% be in the second tube from the top, each time the tubes appeared in the tank. Disappointment damages are hereby ordered in this case, wherein for all future experiments, at least 2 fish will be provided to Octopus. Case closed! *gavel bang*
He totally threw a fit when he didn't get that last fish. That was anger. Checked it once, checked it twice and then jumped on the glass and threw it's tentacles up and flared them. He played your game. He wants his fish.
wasn't that he could see it... he could taste it... aka no memory really here... even when they placed the tubes empty in the water the fish still had made the one tube smell and taste different than the others...Octo's are smart but the test they was using is flawed...
Shocke89 I’m sure they weren’t dumb enough to use the same tube that had the fish in it for the empty test. If you and I could figure out that there could be residual fish in the tube and that it would invalidate the testing, I’m sure a bunch of PhD’s would know to switch the tubes or use new ones.
They seem to favor certain combinations of tentacles. With their eight limbs, they have 448 possible combinations. They used only 49 of them in a study at the University of Vienna.
Yes definitely! It’s always been so crazy to me we live during a time with all these incredible creatures. I especially think giraffes are just insane! They’re huge and we are so used to the idea of them that we take them for granted
He clearly remembers which hole the fish is in every time. And grabs the fish right away. It also makes sense to check every hole after just to be sure because you never knew if something else is there And that is a sign of intelligence.
Another idea- set a grid of 12. Place fish in same hole for whatever 10 days so it learns which hole the fish is in. Then switch the tube and see if the octopus goes straight for the same tube (memory) or senses it in a different tube and that's why it kept going to that same tube prior... this isolates the variable of it being another sense...
Tragoudistros.MPH That’s why it was critical that they run the experiment without a fish in the tube. When he still went to that tube, even though there wasn’t a fish in it, that showed it was memory and not some other sense the octopus was using to find the fish.
I first watched "Octopus with a big dilemma" and this is the second video I watch...I must tell you I'm now hooked and you just got yourself(selves) a new subscriber! Other than eating octopus and finding them to be delicious, I know nothing else about them (but will start researching to find out everything about them) I now feel that I'll never be able to eat another octopus in my life! My conclusion from this video is that this little guy knew exactly where to find his snack every time.
To rule out their being able to detect the fish by smell/taste alone, which would bypass the need to remember the exact location, I suggest you put fish into all the tubes for a while, then remove them from all but one tube just before testing. Alternatively, you try this "pre-odoring" in one tube, then remove the fish and put into a different tube just before testing.
Oh my goodness these freaky creatures are too smart. Everytime I watch one of your octolab videos or so many other videos on RUclips or IG or wherever! They never cease to amaze me. Who knew octopus were so smart!!!🦑
I was lucky enough to take care of a baby octopus in my high school biology class. I loved that little guy! I used to bring my friends in to see him and he would shoot water at them! He used to wrap a tentacle around my finger to try to keep me there longer. They are the most amazing and brilliant creatures. I am so glad i had that time with him. I will never forget that little guy! Try playing a joke on them....they will play! Just remember they will get you back!
Very interesting. Once he found there was no food in that one hole he seemed to say "this isn't worth my time" and did not investigate the other holes like a dog would. 😁 I love these videos. Thank you for showing them.
They deserve to be treated with the utmost respect for their intelligence and tolerance for putting up with these human generated "problems" to "solve". I'm sure these are "yawners" for them.
Chris K It gives the octopus something to do besides just sitting around. They may not be difficult problems for the octopus, but at least it’s something.
😲 I loooooove the BLOoPerz At the end! I have to watch these every night. Anyone who needs cheering up during COVID-19 season should watch this. It’s Like watching a naughty little kid.
He looks right at the camera and gets mad at them during the "barrel full of tile" video, he definitely knows who did it and that they are filming him...
They MUST have an amazing memory! I think they must be incredibly intelligent & have great memory to do things like find 2 coordinating shells to hide in. They must know what they want, what they’re looking for and what shape and size is best from memory. I know the “shell” coverup they do in the wild isn’t in this video, but still, observations in their natural habitat are good tests as well. 😁😁great Video! I just subscribed - these boneless dudes are fascinating !
When I was a little girl, my father and I never missed "The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau". I vividly remember him placing an octopus inside of a tank with a big glass jar with a screw top. A fish was inside. It was fascinating to watch the octopus test and touch; you could almost see him reasoning it out. Finally he tried to unscrew the lid, and the fish was immediately lunch. I have loved them since then. I heard a story of a microbiology lab with multiple kinds of smaller labs in the building, each with a secure door. On the same floor was a lab with many tanks of different kinds of fish, and another lab down the hall had a variety of octopi. The biologists in the fish lab started coming in every morning to find the lab locked and secure, but fish were missing and there were traces of water on the floor. mystified, they installed cameras. Lo and behold, an enterprising octopus was climbing out of his tank, getting underneath the doors of his lab and the fish lab, climbing up to the fish tanks, helping himself nightly to some tasty snacks, and returning to his own tank before the staff came back in in the morning. They are highly intelligent creatures!
It almost seems that at the 10 day mark, he is expecting the fish to have been moved to a different location, hence the exploration of the other three locations before going for the fish.
Ok so when I watch this one, I was definitely intrigued by what happened on day 10 experiment. The octopus approached the four containers from the opposite end of the tank whilst being low or on the bottom of the tank. While probing each whole on this day, the octopus did so in a very passive or lazy manner. On the previous days experiments the octopus aggressively probes each whole and at a particular pace. However on the tenth day increment, the octopus slowly approaches the puzzle only as if to react as, wait this looks familiar. which is amazingly interesting. I think what might give weight to my argument is that the octopus checked the last option to almost certainly knows its going to find the reward. Did anyone see how this time on that day the octopus grabs the reward rather differently than any other day only to say " ha I knew it". IDK i'm weird and give animal intelligence the optimistic view but dang was this interesting. On day 15 he was not amused lol.
It seemed to favor the hole with the fish after the first time. It seemed to not remember as well after 10 days, but definitely didnt seem happy when it didnt find a fish. Also seemed like he wanted out. They're smart creatures. Pretty amazing too.
Seems he always checked one of the adjacent tubes as if he was hoping you might have surprised him with an extra snack but then he appeared to have a temper tantrum when there was no fish in the tube instead of checking the others to see if you changed tubes. Interesting.
I think a better test would have been to cycle through the tubes. Day 1 it's the bottom tube, Day 2 it's the next one up, etc. Repeat when you get to Day 5. See if Arnold starts to remember the pattern. Then, after running the experiment for a few cycles post-remembering, stop and wait a while. Try again one or two cycles worth of days again and see if he still remembers the pattern.
It seemed to me that the octopus was testing the watter with the tips of its tentacles, rather than remembering. ( smelling or tasting) the water in the tubes. Like a dog following its nose to where it found food before. I felt certain they're had to be some sensory per option going g on, were unaware of. After all an octopus in the wild pokes and prods exploring cracks and crannys in rock piles, coral areas it can not see into, but knows when it reaches in and if there is something good to eat in there. Then uses its memory and experience to catch it.
Conserving energy. Energy is life. If you have to expend more energy getting at food than the food will replenish you with, then it is wasted energy and your lifespan is not helped at all ( say you are too tired to evade a predator) All intelligent animals will opt for the path of least resistance for food. That's where memory helps. If you can remember where a steady food source is, you wake up every morning and make a beeline for it! I have seen crows do this. My grandmother leaves food out early morning everyday for crows. One day she was late and when she came out the door, there was one of her her crow friends hopping behind her, tugging at her dress with its beak, demanding to know where the food was! The crow didn't go after my uncle who had just left the house, only my grandmother because it is she who keeps the plate out everyday🙂 The video in the experiment establishes that octopi also use memory to make some easy meals🙂
@@sunandaKdas that is more of a paradigm for a creature living in the wild. the creature in captivity doesn't need a burst of speed to escape a predator and as such doesn't need to worry about conserving energy for such an instance. Speaking as a bike courier that used to have to dodge large vehicles or die (and muscle energy comes into play) I can speak from experience.
@@MrFiddleedee overcoming behaviors rewarded by evolution doesn't happen overnight. Look at us humans. 5000 years of settlement lifestyle and civilized behavior forced down our throats but when push comes to shove all our instincts are from whatever was rewarded down 3 million years of H. sapiens evolution. How do you think we became a dominant species from the brink of extinction. sapiens sapiens wiped out at least 8 other human species to come out on top and even today all human organizations follow a one leader tribal model which consistently rewards competition behaviors. If you think rationally you will realize that like most species that became top dog of their environment we have simply become too unsustainable due to our own behavior. Other species became extinct due to that and so will we. People who develop solutions for Human problems without taking evolution into account end up worsening the problems
Plus, it would make sense that he would check other holes even if he remembers the right hole because the holes, in general, seem to offer the opportunity for food. Maybe he knows there's going to be food there, but it checking the others just in case.
My brother had a saltwater aquarium with many rocks. He had fish and an octopus. When he fed the octopus, he would throw about a half dozen small crabs in the tank. The octopus would get up in the corner and watch as all the crabs sank to the bottom and scrambled under the rocks. We noticed that the octopus waited until all the crabs got under the rock they chose, thats when he would retrieve them. One by one he'd reach under the rock until he found it and ate it But he knew how many were under each rock so he wouldnt be searching for something that wasnt there. He was very clever.
I like the idea of colors in this experiment. Put the treat in the black tube but vary the placement of the black one once he’s found it.. That would test his memory for sure.
Lol here we are watching an octopus check out a variety of holes but always going back to the same one. A summary of all the imperial palace dramas of the Ching Dynasty
Sun Tzu Lao According to their website, all octopuses are housed in larger tanks that have reefs and fishes. This is an experimental tank where octopus can only stay for a short time to perform some experiments. They even rescue octopuses and rehabilitate them before returning to the wild (ocean).
Sun Tzu Lao here's the video clip of the nice tank they built for this rescued octopus. I am sure all octopuses at OctoLab have their own nice tanks. ruclips.net/video/SKeIpejc2Hc/видео.html
Sun Tzu Lao perhaps you’re clenching too much and the dingle berries won’t drop. you gotta let that anger go, bruh. but yeah protect the animals, i agree
I think the tank in general is relatively disorienting, there aren't many features to determine spacial relation. I am impressed by how aware the octopus is of its surroundings, unchallenged it was to find food repeatedly, and the seeming disappointment when there was no fish.
Very interesting experiment. But how do we know that the design is a test for octopus? Maybe it’s for human. For me, what he was trying to do is finding a way to escape. How do we know his interest is for a snack? Good job and thanks. :-)
OMG! The vid was so relaxing I just enjoyed watching him I forgot about the science and just enjoyed him! The out takes snapped me out of it!😂👏🏼 They are smart and anyone who still doubts octopi's intelligence brain dead 😜🐙 👏🏼❤️
I had a feeling with the outtakes, that they wanted to see what is behind the wall before putting their "fingers" in a hole which could endanger them. After seeing what was behind it, their usual asserting the situation, they readily took part in the game. I feel it is important to do things like that with any wild animal which is living in a caged situation so that they are not getting bored.
The thank they are in is to do tests. The tanks that they live in is luxurious People experimented on other people..if they didnt we wouldnt have known biology and psychology ect...some people died others survived but were traumatized. Russian sleep experiment was one of the most fascinating experiments all 3 participants died... These octopuses still live...they arnt getting hurt. They live a great life away from predators..these videos arnt only for entertainment but also to see how intelligent....everyone does it with animals. We need this information to understand animals
I thought for sure he was stuck at the end there! Do they get upset at not getting the fish after the prior learning or do they see at a bonus/ supplement? Yes please more bloopers!
It's intimidating enough when you see for yourself for the first time how quickly they figure out how to escape from confinement, or improvise a way to take food from a sealed container when they're unable to open it 🐙 Incredible problem-solving ability combined with the sensory ability, strength, & dexterity of those 8 tentacles. Humans wouldn't have a chance if octupuses ever chose to organize against us. We would not only be outnumbered, but outsmarted, & cocooned by their superior strength. Gotta love the octopus, and the cuttlefish too, for the very same reasons
Years ago I came across a video of a Marine lab where the fish in the various tanks kept disappearing. They finally put up a night vision camera only the find that the resident octopus would leave his tank go across the floor and help himself to the buffet, then go back to his tank. Ever since then I've been fascinated by these amazing creatures. I'm so glad I stumbled on your site. Thank You!
can you tell me where you found the video? i would like to watch that, thanks :D
Have you considered the possibility that, after completing essentially the same task several times, he is testing you?
"how long can i keep these clowns interested in watching me" *mwahaha.*
It looks like from where he sits at the top, that he has a clear line of sight of the fish within that one tube. FYI.
He may be expecting it to be a trick at some point
😂😂😂
He did seem a bit skeptical at times
Man, the loopholes this guy finds to everything.....send him to law school he’d make a great contract attorney
Veronica Ravello-Arceo I’m laughing so hard I spilled my juice
Hahaha
Send him to the White Haus for more legal loopholes. 🙈
Good one! 🤣
Why not try a different color blocking plate for different holes? See if he remembers which hole a different color corresponds to. i.e. red top hole, blue second, yellow third etc. And see how he responds over time.
I second this idea. That would be super interesting.
Yes it would be very interesting to see if it remembers a colour and not the placement of the hole.
@@RobespierreThePoof COLOURBLIND (I think they are new to this channel 😁)
@@ginglyst sure? I mean, they change color for camouflage and stuff... sounds ineffective, if they cant see diverent colors by themselves. How do they know, they fit to the underground? - at least, they could differ black, white and grey for example
@@RobespierreThePoof and because of that question, this idea would be interesting to realize.
I love the way he moves - it's so smooth and graceful, it looks like high-class animation. And how he notices that the air-breathers have put something in his tank *again*, so he swims over to it to satisfy his curiosity. And, oh yes, it's the "where did we hide your fish" trick. If I could get out of this tank, I'd go fill their coffeepot with ink!
Ace Lightning That’s squid, not octopus. EDIT: Someone mentioned that they indeed do have ink, deep-sea species being an exception.
@@MrSlanderer Most cephalopods are intelligent enough that I think eating them is a bad idea.
TheCrossedEyedGamer I stand corrected!
@Ace Lightning What? Octopus is delicious.
Kevin B. Some people think ape meat tastes good.
Very interesting experiments! Some things you might want to consider: You are testing memory, but the methodology failed to account for hope, (the flipside of which is disappointment, exhibited towards the end). I can't help think that if you are an intelligent creature with 8 arms and a belly to fill, it stands to reason you always check every hole. Simultaneously. And if you can smell the water with your hands, forget about it.
This experiment could be refined though: dealing with very long arms, the holes have to be much more inaccessible from one another so the "choice" is unambiguous. Horizontally placed, so gravity isn't a factor (I know it isn't as much with octopus but still, science). At least 8 or 10 tubes, instead of 4, would be also preferable.
The ultimate is if all the tubes were separate from one another, such that the octopus had to enter a chamber to make the choice and access the tube, and couldn't access any other tubes with its arms. Then you'll be testing whether the octopus remembered or is simply being opportunistic. The choice needs to take more effort for the octopus so it must commit to one of the holes, or have to return out of the hole again if it finds no reward. This will force the octopus to make a choice up front about which chamber to check first, rather than approaching the tubes and "assessing" them all at once.
Then repeat the experiment on a regular basis, being now able to tally the hits and misses accurately, to determine if the octopus becomes more adept at finding the snack first time.
In other words, you're gonna need a bigger tank.
first one with actualy good ideas and not just crying about how bad this experiment was i liked that!
Ok. I was totally bummed when he didn't get a goody
He looked kind of pissed off...
He turned his butt to the camera 😅
@@bulletsfordinner8307 lol! Serves the team right
Booper 343
It was an absolutely critical aspect of the testing though. They had to do that to rule out that the octopus wasn’t using some other sense to determine the fish was in there and not using just his memory.
@@janedoe6181 I understand that. But to a non scientific person it was heartbreaking. I just hope he's happy
pretty much put me off eating octopus ever again! I think I'll just leave them to get on with their lives...
@Hugh Tuck Their lives are extremely short and they lay tens of thousands of eggs at a time. Feast on.
Kevin B. they aren’t that short. They’re extremely intelligent creatures who obviously feel pain.
I hope you can 💛 Do it for them 🙏🐙
A video on octopi learning from observing others made me stop eating them altogether. Their level of intelligence made me question the whole idea of what constitute a human being. Is being human really define by intelligence or something more? I see them as another form of primate even if we don't share a family tree. The way they can problem solve faster than most humans has made me reconsider the whole idea of eating them. It is cannibalism.
How is their "intelligence" relevant to their place in the food chain?
How is our intelligence (& emotions) relevant to our place in the food chain?
Moral (pseudo)dilemmas & emotions have no place in Nature. It's all about "survival of the fittest".
"You can kill it = you can eat it", simple as that.
Generally speaking, people today are self-righteous hypocrites.
They denounce their rightful place in the food chain to "protect the cute-looking octopus/cow/chicken/whatever", while at the same time they screw the planet because they want cheaper diesel for their 3000cc SUV.
& they want ME to give up thousands-of-years-old nutritional habits?!
Yeeaah... nope, not happening.
You care about the "poor animals"?
Then set an example by stop screwing their environment!
When he was expecting that treat but it wasn't there.....he looked angry. 🐙😉
Please make a video about the octo-everydays, I mean, introduce their container where they live, a daily routine, or something 😁
Does he live in this barren tank or is it just the experiment tank?
@@booper343 This is just an experiment tank. They are housed in much larger tanks with a more suitable environment. The experiment tanks are setup to try and minimize distraction and optimize observation.
@@BT-uq3qw now you are pure evil. LOL
@@CopalFreak Glad to read that. I was worried these animals need far more stimulation and it would be cruel to keep them in a barren tank. It would be nice to see what enrichment their living tank has for them and what their daily routine is re feeding etc when they are not "working" so to speak.
Glen Graham This video clip answers your concerns. All octopuses at this same place are housed to this similar tank: ruclips.net/video/SKeIpejc2Hc/видео.html
I'm so glad someone is finally telling the world how smart octopuses are! I despise seeing them eaten live, knowing what I know, but they must be terribly bored in those tanks. I hate seeing the real big ones in aquariums where they have no room to stretch out. But this is progress!
I never knew I needed octopus videos in my life. Now it's a crack like addiction.
Do you consider the fact that your fish snack has undoutedly a smell carried out by water?
@Arigato Cat but didn't the fish smell linger in the tube?
Mardi Taylor
If they were smart, and I’m thinking these people are fairly smart, they would have used new tubes or switched to order of the tubes to make sure it wasn’t fish residue the octopus was going after. If I can think about changing the tubes, I’m sure PhD’s will have thought of it.
That's what I was thinking too. He seemed to go for the right tube the very first time.
@@janedoe6181 Doesn't look like the tubes were changed at all. If you see the marking at the bottom/end of the fish tube it's the same one every time.
Jessika Rawlings
I don’t know what you’re seeing, but I don’t see any markings. IF, and that’s a really big if, they are the same tubes every time, I’m am betting they’ve been thoroughly washed (both for the health of the octopus and for the testing). If the lab can’t remove all other reasons why the octopus is choosing the same tube, other than memory, then they have no business running experiments and deserve to have every cent of grant money removed. Removing all other variables other than the one you’re testing for is experimentation 101.
I wonder if the exploration of the other tubes in the earlier experiments was because he was thinking that you'd be tricking him into having to find the fish somewhere else each time, rather than being unsure of his memory? The 'blooper reel' didn't surprise me - they're clever and crafty creatures!
Or he probably thinks there maybe more snackies in the other tubes
Mandy B
If I found a snack in one tube, I’d certainly be checking the others for goodies too. I’m betting the octopus was thinking this way too. Later on in the testing the octopus did less exploring of the other tubes. Animals can’t reason that someone might be trying to trick them.
@@janedoe6181 Don't underestimate octopi. In the wild humans and nonhuman animals are always tricking one another so yes, other species do have the the capacity of reason as humans do to know when someone or something is going to trick them or not... otherwise how else would they be able survive in a world where everyone and everything either wants to eat you or simply just kill you for the LOLs.
Clearly a memory. At 15 days, realizing there is no fish he double-check, proof he was expecting something from that specific hole (and we can not expect something without some kind of memory). That behavior wasn't there for the other holes. When sure the source is empty he just leave, another proof he taught he knew the others were supposed to be empty. To my eyes those are 2 proofs of memory.
It's really after 5 days, though, because he found a fish there on the 10th day
Maybe he's checking all of the tubes to see if y'all added one or more as a new test, an extra twist or just as a treat.
I'm soooo happy I found your channel! I LOVE octopi! God did a wonderful job with them.
Thanks for generously sharing your octopi world with us!
God Bless!
Why not surround each hole with a different pattern that can be moved about to see if he remembers that pattern that gives a fish?
I could watch for hours! Such curious, smart, & fascinating creatures. Beautiful & graceful. Not even sure how I ended up here but I am glad I did 🥰
He seemed pretty PO'd when he didn't get his last fish.
It must be quite an adventure trying to devise tests for a creature with 8 arms, the ability to multitask, squeeze through tiny spaces, and possesses the raw strength to just crush small objects that frustrate it - lmfao!
I feel this test would better serve if the holes were placed such that the octopus could not reach all of them at once. Tubes at either end of a tank so you could see which set he approached first would give a more definitive answer.
This test provokes in me the questions of; "Does he have a favourite arm to search with?" and "Do you get the same results with a horizontally placed set of tubes as with a vertical one?".
They are so elegant and graceful when they move.
You should get him to translate the complete works of Shakespeare into Mandarin.
Me: It's 3AM I should probably get some sleep.
RUclips: OCTOPUS MEMORY TEST
In the case of Octopus vs Octolab TV, I rule in favour of the plaintiff. In the agreed statement of facts, on Day 15, Octolab TV did place 4 empty tubes into the testing tank, hereby violating the unwritten understanding that Octopus participates in these experiments solely because he is paid for doing so by finding a fish in the end. Having violated the spirit of this agreement on this occasion, Octolab TV is hereby ordered to immediately and without delay, provide Octopus with no less than 10 fish. Double damages are also ordered, due to the fact that it was a dirty rotten trick to lead Octopus, over the previous 14 days, to expect that a fish would 100% be in the second tube from the top, each time the tubes appeared in the tank. Disappointment damages are hereby ordered in this case, wherein for all future experiments, at least 2 fish will be provided to Octopus. Case closed! *gavel bang*
😂 thanks for the laugh
LOL! "Do you have Mesothelioma? Has someone unjustly taken away your fish?? Call PJP.. The Aquatic Attorney. " hehe
@@CopalFreak ☺ It was an open and shut case. I had video evidence and a confession broadcast via RUclips.
(Lol at "the Aquatic Attorney! ")
I specialize in bird law myself.
He totally threw a fit when he didn't get that last fish. That was anger. Checked it once, checked it twice and then jumped on the glass and threw it's tentacles up and flared them. He played your game. He wants his fish.
The octopus did better than me, I never could see the fish. Fascinating creature!
wasn't that he could see it... he could taste it... aka no memory really here... even when they placed the tubes empty in the water the fish still had made the one tube smell and taste different than the others...Octo's are smart but the test they was using is flawed...
Shocke89
I’m sure they weren’t dumb enough to use the same tube that had the fish in it for the empty test. If you and I could figure out that there could be residual fish in the tube and that it would invalidate the testing, I’m sure a bunch of PhD’s would know to switch the tubes or use new ones.
I never saw the snack/fish anywhere, so this made no sense to me.
Do octopuses have a dominant tentacle(s)
Christopher Bolanos I think one of their tentacles is their sexual organ. Maybe that’s the “dominant” one?
There are studies being done to find out!
I was wondering about that myself. They seem to wield all of their tentacles with great skill.
They seem to favor certain combinations of tentacles. With their eight limbs, they have 448 possible combinations. They used only 49 of them in a study at the University of Vienna.
Matt Rogers
Very interesting.
This ladies and gentlemen, is as alien as it gets. That's why there's nothing up there, cause it's down here disguised as other living creatures.
Iced Cube
U wish.....
Sorry bud, BUTT God does not know DUH petty limitationz, u seek 2 mpose on da universe.
Yes definitely! It’s always been so crazy to me we live during a time with all these incredible creatures. I especially think giraffes are just insane! They’re huge and we are so used to the idea of them that we take them for granted
I've always said that the secrets of the world are in our oceans.
@@MB-wx2jp I agree!
Life has a way of making things seem alien when in fact they were here long before us.
He clearly remembers which hole the fish is in every time. And grabs the fish right away. It also makes sense to check every hole after just to be sure because you never knew if something else is there And that is a sign of intelligence.
Foil your plans?! You foiled his snack time! Serves you right! 🤣
Another idea- set a grid of 12. Place fish in same hole for whatever 10 days so it learns which hole the fish is in.
Then switch the tube and see if the octopus goes straight for the same tube (memory) or senses it in a different tube and that's why it kept going to that same tube prior... this isolates the variable of it being another sense...
They can taste/smell with their arms, so if the other tubes have no fish scent, the test is easier for them.
Tragoudistros.MPH
That’s why it was critical that they run the experiment without a fish in the tube. When he still went to that tube, even though there wasn’t a fish in it, that showed it was memory and not some other sense the octopus was using to find the fish.
I first watched "Octopus with a big dilemma" and this is the second video I watch...I must tell you I'm now hooked and you just got yourself(selves) a new subscriber! Other than eating octopus and finding them to be delicious, I know nothing else about them (but will start researching to find out everything about them) I now feel that I'll never be able to eat another octopus in my life!
My conclusion from this video is that this little guy knew exactly where to find his snack every time.
i love these videos, octopus are so intelligent, great job!
Also they are great in salads
@@lorenzop.7822 true that, true that
@@lorenzop.7822 you are disguasting
It's amazing that it can fit through that tiny space and just play around. 😂
To rule out their being able to detect the fish by smell/taste alone, which would bypass the need to remember the exact location, I suggest you put fish into all the tubes for a while, then remove them from all but one tube just before testing. Alternatively, you try this "pre-odoring" in one tube, then remove the fish and put into a different tube just before testing.
It honestly looks like he was doing morning stretches there at the beginning. "Okay, another day another test."
It's very likely that you're right. He's prolly learned what it means to be placed in there.
Oh my goodness these freaky creatures are too smart. Everytime I watch one of your octolab videos or so many other videos on RUclips or IG or wherever! They never cease to amaze me. Who knew octopus were so smart!!!🦑
That's a squid emoji. OxO. 🐙
@@gabriellelacompte7912 Thx. LoL
I gotcha back, home fry! 😃
@@gabriellelacompte7912 okie Dokes homeslice!👍
i did
I was lucky enough to take care of a baby octopus in my high school biology class. I loved that little guy! I used to bring my friends in to see him and he would shoot water at them! He used to wrap a tentacle around my finger to try to keep me there longer. They are the most amazing and brilliant creatures. I am so glad i had that time with him. I will never forget that little guy!
Try playing a joke on them....they will play! Just remember they will get you back!
Does he have a better home then this? Tell me this tank is just for testing and not somewhere where he is kept all the time?
Janice Hamm Yes...this makes me heartsick. He needs a life in the sea.
Someone’s always gotta spoil the fun. You should get a cabin in the woods so you can’t bother anybody
Obviously he has a tank with natural elements, this one is empty to observe without distractions
I agree he is intelligent he needs to be in a more natural to him environment please.
I hope it is. Cause it would be really sad.
Very interesting. Once he found there was no food in that one hole he seemed to say "this isn't worth my time" and did not investigate the other holes like a dog would. 😁 I love these videos. Thank you for showing them.
Poor guy, he wants out of there so bad. He doesn’t want to do the puzzle. What does his main tank look like?
They deserve to be treated with the utmost respect for their intelligence and tolerance for putting up with these human generated "problems" to "solve".
I'm sure these are "yawners" for them.
Chris K
It gives the octopus something to do besides just sitting around. They may not be difficult problems for the octopus, but at least it’s something.
You must be a great biologist then, seem to know a lot
@@janedoe6181 what about letting the octopus leave freely in the ocean?
Im dying at the fact you had to blur the octopus from Finding nemo 2
😲 I loooooove the BLOoPerz At the end! I have to watch these every night. Anyone who needs cheering up during COVID-19 season should watch this. It’s Like watching a naughty little kid.
What would be really scary is if they knew they were being experimented on.
He looks right at the camera and gets mad at them during the "barrel full of tile" video, he definitely knows who did it and that they are filming him...
They probably do, just like our pets know when we are teasing them!
He does.
That's amazing, it's like he knows you're testing him....and he sits there likes hes trying to remember before he checks any of them!
I waited a mighty long time for a channel on octopus with in-depth coverage on their intelligence. I just love octopus 🐙
They MUST have an amazing memory! I think they must be incredibly intelligent & have great memory to do things like find 2 coordinating shells to hide in. They must know what they want, what they’re looking for and what shape and size is best from memory. I know the “shell” coverup they do in the wild isn’t in this video, but still, observations in their natural habitat are good tests as well. 😁😁great Video! I just subscribed - these boneless dudes are fascinating !
When I was a little girl, my father and I never missed "The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau". I vividly remember him placing an octopus inside of a tank with a big glass jar with a screw top. A fish was inside. It was fascinating to watch the octopus test and touch; you could almost see him reasoning it out. Finally he tried to unscrew the lid, and the fish was immediately lunch. I have loved them since then. I heard a story of a microbiology lab with multiple kinds of smaller labs in the building, each with a secure door. On the same floor was a lab with many tanks of different kinds of fish, and another lab down the hall had a variety of octopi. The biologists in the fish lab started coming in every morning to find the lab locked and secure, but fish were missing and there were traces of water on the floor. mystified, they installed cameras. Lo and behold, an enterprising octopus was climbing out of his tank, getting underneath the doors of his lab and the fish lab, climbing up to the fish tanks, helping himself nightly to some tasty snacks, and returning to his own tank before the staff came back in in the morning. They are highly intelligent creatures!
It almost seems that at the 10 day mark, he is expecting the fish to have been moved to a different location, hence the exploration of the other three locations before going for the fish.
Ok so when I watch this one, I was definitely intrigued by what happened on day 10 experiment. The octopus approached the four containers from the opposite end of the tank whilst being low or on the bottom of the tank. While probing each whole on this day, the octopus did so in a very passive or lazy manner. On the previous days experiments the octopus aggressively probes each whole and at a particular pace. However on the tenth day increment, the octopus slowly approaches the puzzle only as if to react as, wait this looks familiar. which is amazingly interesting. I think what might give weight to my argument is that the octopus checked the last option to almost certainly knows its going to find the reward. Did anyone see how this time on that day the octopus grabs the reward rather differently than any other day only to say " ha I knew it". IDK i'm weird and give animal intelligence the optimistic view but dang was this interesting. On day 15 he was not amused lol.
With the music it's like watching a dancing contortionist
It seemed to favor the hole with the fish after the first time. It seemed to not remember as well after 10 days, but definitely didnt seem happy when it didnt find a fish. Also seemed like he wanted out. They're smart creatures. Pretty amazing too.
Octopuses are both fascinating and terrifying at the same time.
Seems he always checked one of the adjacent tubes as if he was hoping you might have surprised him with an extra snack but then he appeared to have a temper tantrum when there was no fish in the tube instead of checking the others to see if you changed tubes. Interesting.
This creature is impressive, his Camo, Elasticity, Sneak In abbility are impressive.
They will never ceasing amaze me.
I think a better test would have been to cycle through the tubes. Day 1 it's the bottom tube, Day 2 it's the next one up, etc. Repeat when you get to Day 5. See if Arnold starts to remember the pattern. Then, after running the experiment for a few cycles post-remembering, stop and wait a while. Try again one or two cycles worth of days again and see if he still remembers the pattern.
You should try communicating telepathically with him.
It seemed to me that the octopus was testing the watter with the tips of its tentacles, rather than remembering.
( smelling or tasting) the water in the tubes. Like a dog following its nose to where it found food before.
I felt certain they're had to be some sensory per option going g on, were unaware of.
After all an octopus in the wild pokes and prods exploring cracks and crannys in rock piles, coral areas it can not see into, but knows when it reaches in and if there is something good to eat in there. Then uses its memory and experience to catch it.
I watch the bloopers every single day!
If there's no penalty for picking the wrong hole, and there's no time constraint then what's the Octopus' motivation to pick the correct hole first?
Conserving energy. Energy is life. If you have to expend more energy getting at food than the food will replenish you with, then it is wasted energy and your lifespan is not helped at all ( say you are too tired to evade a predator) All intelligent animals will opt for the path of least resistance for food.
That's where memory helps. If you can remember where a steady food source is, you wake up every morning and make a beeline for it! I have seen crows do this. My grandmother leaves food out early morning everyday for crows. One day she was late and when she came out the door, there was one of her her crow friends hopping behind her, tugging at her dress with its beak, demanding to know where the food was! The crow didn't go after my uncle who had just left the house, only my grandmother because it is she who keeps the plate out everyday🙂 The video in the experiment establishes that octopi also use memory to make some easy meals🙂
@@sunandaKdas that is more of a paradigm for a creature living in the wild. the creature in captivity doesn't need a burst of speed to escape a predator and as such doesn't need to worry about conserving energy for such an instance. Speaking as a bike courier that used to have to dodge large vehicles or die (and muscle energy comes into play) I can speak from experience.
@@MrFiddleedee overcoming behaviors rewarded by evolution doesn't happen overnight. Look at us humans. 5000 years of settlement lifestyle and civilized behavior forced down our throats but when push comes to shove all our instincts are from whatever was rewarded down 3 million years of H. sapiens evolution. How do you think we became a dominant species from the brink of extinction. sapiens sapiens wiped out at least 8 other human species to come out on top and even today all human organizations follow a one leader tribal model which consistently rewards competition behaviors. If you think rationally you will realize that like most species that became top dog of their environment we have simply become too unsustainable due to our own behavior. Other species became extinct due to that and so will we.
People who develop solutions for
Human problems without taking evolution into account end up worsening the problems
It’s a badly designed experiment. But this happens all the time
Ah man those bloopers were so fun to watch. That cutie's got one hell of a personality. 🐙💖
Plus, it would make sense that he would check other holes even if he remembers the right hole because the holes, in general, seem to offer the opportunity for food. Maybe he knows there's going to be food there, but it checking the others just in case.
Fascinating animal thanks for challenging the octopuses the way you do to show their intelligence
Octopods Have Great Memories Because An Octopus Never Forget
I am so glad I found this channel. What a treat.
My brother had a saltwater aquarium with many rocks. He had fish and an octopus. When he fed the octopus, he would throw about a half dozen small crabs in the tank. The octopus would get up in the corner and watch as all the crabs sank to the bottom and scrambled under the rocks. We noticed that the octopus waited until all the crabs got under the rock they chose, thats when he would retrieve them. One by one he'd reach under the rock until he found it and ate it But he knew how many were under each rock so he wouldnt be searching for something that wasnt there.
He was very clever.
Very good. Now try to figure out why sometimes he swims over to the tubes and sometimes he walks there...
I like the idea of colors in this experiment. Put the treat in the black tube but vary the placement of the black one once he’s found it.. That would test his memory for sure.
Wow.... I like when octopos moves... Very smoth...
I love this Chanel . Only thing I would like to see is the comment read aloud. That would be very helpful thank you
Thank you for this beautiful video, I love them so much!
You should try alternating between two tubes to see if he catches onto patterns
Yeah, how long can they remember a pattern, and how complex?
Hahaa!! Loved the outtakes!! He really looks like he's got quite a personality! Does his handler talk to him and does he respond?
This animal is like a living cheat code. Just remarkable in every conceivable way.
You'll have to be smarter than the octopus to properly test them...I guess we now know who to blame for memory malfunction test.
Well, I was going to bed an hour ago then I found this channel. Oh well we’re in quarantine sleep is irrelevant at this point anyway.
Lol here we are watching an octopus check out a variety of holes but always going back to the same one. A summary of all the imperial palace dramas of the Ching Dynasty
"Imma fix these scientists. Outtakes!? Whatever!!! Imma pull this here barrier apart! See about that, homeboys. Catch me outside!!!"
yeah, he favors the second from the top, but he's seeing if someone gave him a bonus snack...!
I find it somewhat depressing to see an intelligent creature in a plain glass cage. I hope that's not where it stays all the time.
Sun Tzu Lao According to their website, all octopuses are housed in larger tanks that have reefs and fishes. This is an experimental tank where octopus can only stay for a short time to perform some experiments. They even rescue octopuses and rehabilitate them before returning to the wild (ocean).
@@BT-uq3qw - troll.
Leanne Carter THANKS FOR THIS INFO!! Love to hear it!
Sun Tzu Lao here's the video clip of the nice tank they built for this rescued octopus. I am sure all octopuses at OctoLab have their own nice tanks. ruclips.net/video/SKeIpejc2Hc/видео.html
Sun Tzu Lao perhaps you’re clenching too much and the dingle berries won’t drop. you gotta let that anger go, bruh. but yeah protect the animals, i agree
He looks like he doesn't have energy at 10 days anymore:(
I think he searches other tubes in an attempt to understand the entire design of what he's sticking his lil tentacles in
I love watching these videos.
I have a question, do they allow handling?
It's always amazes me that an octopus is very creative and outsmart humans ! :-)
I like the twist at the end lmao!
Is he left-handed? I couldn't tell. Would that make him a "south-tentacle"?
I think the tank in general is relatively disorienting, there aren't many features to determine spacial relation. I am impressed by how aware the octopus is of its surroundings, unchallenged it was to find food repeatedly, and the seeming disappointment when there was no fish.
Very interesting experiment. But how do we know that the design is a test for octopus? Maybe it’s for human. For me, what he was trying to do is finding a way to escape. How do we know his interest is for a snack? Good job and thanks. :-)
OMG! The vid was so relaxing I just enjoyed watching him I forgot about the science and just enjoyed him! The out takes snapped me out of it!😂👏🏼 They are smart and anyone who still doubts octopi's intelligence brain dead 😜🐙 👏🏼❤️
This is why I would love to work with octopuses! ❤
I had a feeling with the outtakes, that they wanted to see what is behind the wall before putting their "fingers" in a hole which could endanger them. After seeing what was behind it, their usual asserting the situation, they readily took part in the game. I feel it is important to do things like that with any wild animal which is living in a caged situation so that they are not getting bored.
"I'll just put my mouth over the correct one to save time"
I love how the last bit is him just fucking around and entering the area with the test tubes. 😂
If there are so intelligent don't you think it must be sad for them to be confined to such a small place. They belong in the ocean not an aquarium.
The thank they are in is to do tests. The tanks that they live in is luxurious
People experimented on other people..if they didnt we wouldnt have known biology and psychology ect...some people died others survived but were traumatized. Russian sleep experiment was one of the most fascinating experiments all 3 participants died...
These octopuses still live...they arnt getting hurt. They live a great life away from predators..these videos arnt only for entertainment but also to see how intelligent....everyone does it with animals. We need this information to understand animals
@@delayedkarma488 just let them be
That an octopus has only a long term memory of 30 seconds belies the fact that they return to favorite spots to hide.
I thought for sure he was stuck at the end there! Do they get upset at not getting the fish after the prior learning or do they see at a bonus/ supplement? Yes please more bloopers!
It's like "Dudes, I know where it is, but I've got 8 arms so might aswell check the other holes"
It's intimidating enough when you see for yourself for the first time how quickly they figure out how to escape from confinement, or improvise a way to take food from a sealed container when they're unable to open it 🐙
Incredible problem-solving ability combined with the sensory ability, strength, & dexterity of those 8 tentacles. Humans wouldn't have a chance if octupuses ever chose to organize against us. We would not only be outnumbered, but outsmarted, & cocooned by their superior strength. Gotta love the octopus, and the cuttlefish too, for the very same reasons