Jim, Patrick I am Ben Williams of Net2U I am am IT Service and support provider. I watched your video and I like how you showed the cleanest and most proper way of layingout the cable strands to be punched down at the patch panel, I like how you showed how to tape wrap all the way to the cables running ends so that they can cleanly and snag free be run up around and over or through in order for them to reach their end point of termination. This is by far one of the most informative, most professional videos on data cable management which can be applies to telephony as well. Great video guys and thank you very much.
I know what a clean installation is due to my master at the time, I have to admit: the tool must be so handy guys, thumbs up! Also what you say at @06:30 is soooooo true: The most expensive cable is the one that is one inch short...
The most important thing is keeping the twist as close as possible to the termination. As long as the twist is preserved, it doesn't matter if one pair is slightly longer than the other.
Good job, I work with this here in Brazil, I really enjoyed seeing your solution, I have an internet provider via radio here in the city of Aquidauana MS
at&t uses t568a because the 4 pair line can be used as a phone line in a pinch. if you look at the center pins 4&5 that is white-blue/blue which is typically line 1 in a phone system and white-orange/orange pins 3&6 that is typically line 2. look at an rj11 connector of a phone cable. lines 1&2 line up with the rj45 pins. so our cabling is universal for phone lines or data lines. (my comments are my own and from my experience)
For the most part, other than if specifically required to use one vs the other, as long as both ends match, there's no reason you have to pick one standard over the other. If you need to make a crossover cable, you just make one end A, the other B.
AnotherJunglist, patch panels are extremely helpful when it comes to MACs (Moves, Adds, Changes). Without it, you would have to reroute a very long cable if you change your network setup. With patch panels, you simply have to use a much shorter patch cord (3m length normally). It's basically for management purposes.
Yes. Typically, the cable is only combed in the final room of use, after it's been run through the wall or ceiling. Combing the cable through the entire run would make the job twice as long. The vast majority of customers do not want to pay for the extra time and labor it would take to comb the cable behind a wall or in a ceiling, where no one will ever see it.
Another positive reason to use velcro strips over cable ties, in my opinion, would be the ease of removal. Simply pull the velcro apart, versus damage to individual cables when cutting off cable tie to remove.
Replying to my own comment here. I'm going for the T568B setup, because I've noticed that every single cable on the market has been terminated using a T568B system, so it makes sense to keep to that standard If all cables were T568A, I'd probably go for that
Seems like having a 2nd Zip tie to "follow" (instead of repeatedly using hands to pull taut) would help immensely, esp. while coming behind it with those Velcro™ wraps.
Yes. I'll be purchasing that cable comb from the site soon. Thanks for doing a close up as to how to load it.....on another video it was already on. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for the video.i just got through running the cables to where the patch panels are going to be. this is my first time going to a commercial account thank you for your insight.
That's what we deduced, that he meant just plugging in patch cords directly to different computers throughout the building. We addressed his question in our latest video series. The techs were given several questions on patch panels in the roundtable Q&A, and most of that information ended up in the Q&A Part 4 video.
My favourite tool for a few years. In some situations, because of the amount of cables, had to use dish soap. For sure it’s better to use vaseline. Anyway... Awesome job guys!!!
I did some research and apparently ISO say to use T568A on all new installations? I know there's not a real difference between the two, but I found that interesting if true? Though, most pre made cables and some seem to be T568B only. It's pretty confusing
Always learned that 568A is USA and in Europe we use 568B, at least that's what they told us during CCNA class. If you mix up both you get a fast ethernet cross cable, for a gigabit cross cable you also need to cross blue and brown. Also, try to keep all pairs of equal length and twisted as much as possible (but don't twist it more than it was). For fast ethernet it doesn't matter a lot but gigabit can lose some speed on that.
Great video, learned a lot, thank you for posting this to youtube. Would like to see more installs but really interested in seeing different rack and patch panel installs. Neat stuff.
It's not recommended to reuse patch panels or jacks. The pins have already been wedged apart by a previous termination so you probably won't get the airtight seal you need.
Nice vid, seems a handy item, and it does look very professional. 568A is mandatory in Govt because 568A is used in other countries, only the U.S. in its need to be different uses the old AT&T 568B method in commercial installs, why., who knows.
@AnotherJunglistuh I dont know about your data center but patch panels sure are handy to jump racks. As in you pre run overhead cable to specified patch panels ahead of time, then when you are hooking up a server/switch/router etc you can quickly jump racks to where you needed to go without having to add additional overhead cable etc. And you can you use measured cable so you dont have to crimp everything you do all at once. Saves a ton of time imo.
You could try getting an apprenticeship to learn the technical skills. You'd do stuff like accompanying a tech to a job site and observing what he/she does, practice cabling (in a test setting, not the client's building!), etc. Vendors like Toshiba and Cisco have certifications, so it also helps to study up on them and take the certification exams.
Good video with regards to the cable combing. However, the cameraman's comments that it's OK to use zip ties to bundle cable concern me. You should NEVER use zip ties on data cable. They can pinch the cable and open the cable braid on the twisted pairs inside the cable. Those twists exist, and are at a specific distance apart, in order to prevent interference and cross-talk in the cables. The twists per inch correlates to the max frequency of the carrier used on the cable. It essentially forms a Faraday Cage around the data lines. This gets more critical at higher frequencies. Look at CAT-5 compared to CAT-6. The latter has much tighter twists. This is to shield the shorter wavelength (higher frequency) signals CAT-6 is rated for. Also, we're supposed to be using TIA 568A for all new installs as per the standard, though in the US this is poorly adhered to. Finally, when opening up the twisted pairs to insert into the punch block, always try to open less than one full twist of the pairs. In other words, the pairs should cross-over right up against the punch down block. The preserves the shielding up to the block.
I watched this a while back...then I just watched it again... You know, with the demonstration setting used, it'd be better to use two of them opposed from the middle for maximum neatness.
Then cabling in the patch panel and wall jack has nothing to do with the compatibility of "other countries." The wall keystone jack must match the patch panel. 568B to 568B is straight-thru... as is 568A to 568A. If you use 568A on one side and 568B on the other side, you have a cross-over... which may not work for connecting end-devices: computers, routers, servers, or printers to a network switch or hub... though many new switches and computers support auto MDI/MDIX crossover detection.
This is a decent video for someone who needs some instructions. I personally don't use the comb, and still create the same look but not a bad toy. Terminations on patch panel should be a little better. Over 1/2" exposed copper. Overall, decent though.
Something missing. The Cable Comb and method shown doesn't have numbering sequence to terminate cables on port 01 - 24 for Straight panels or Angled panels. Imagine 24 ports patch panel to another 24 ports patch panel by combing cables in between … port 01 ≠ port 01 on the other end.
Hi there. Out of interest, what's the term for that sort of switch that the cable connects to without an RJ45 termination that you connect to in the video? The one in the rack mount?
I like the idea of this tool but......say you have just wired 200 outlets and every cable is numbered. You would have to sort cables into bunches of 24 cables first, then after combing them try and get cable #1 inline with the first connector on the panel. Other than running each cable up the rack starting at 1 ending at 24 I can't see how this would work.
I don't like Velcro for cables or PC's. When the cabling is Fresh or is in a durst free environment than yes go a head and use velcro. But if its in a craw space or in a dusty place or you do not plan on fixing it your self. Just go with zips. The problem is Velcro will turn into a dust ball, and if not used for a long time it will Stick together Like z zip or will come a part i seen both. Some places it gets hot and some Velcro's glue's just start running and will stick it together or let the Velcro go. But ether way, the way you guys are doing it, Dust free, ventilated and Very well supported i wont see this wiring job going bad any time soon
I always find cable installers or computer companies are the worst at installing cables and equipment. They just plug things in and roll out. To be fair most of them.
Jim, Patrick I am Ben Williams of Net2U I am am IT Service and support provider. I watched your video and I like how you showed the cleanest and most proper way of layingout the cable strands to be punched down at the patch panel, I like how you showed how to tape wrap all the way to the cables running ends so that they can cleanly and snag free be run up around and over or through in order for them to reach their end point of termination. This is by far one of the most informative, most professional videos on data cable management which can be applies to telephony as well. Great video guys and thank you very much.
I know what a clean installation is due to my master at the time, I have to admit: the tool must be so handy guys, thumbs up!
Also what you say at @06:30 is soooooo true: The most expensive cable is the one that is one inch short...
When combing cable keep one Velcro loose just behind helps keep it together. Sliding along as you go.
You can use it with cable that's 1/4" diameter or smaller. The holding slots are round, so it's best to use with round cables.
The most important thing is keeping the twist as close as possible to the termination. As long as the twist is preserved, it doesn't matter if one pair is slightly longer than the other.
Good job, I work with this here in Brazil, I really enjoyed seeing your solution, I have an internet provider via radio here in the city of Aquidauana MS
Glad to help
at&t uses t568a because the 4 pair line can be used as a phone line in a pinch. if you look at the center pins 4&5 that is white-blue/blue which is typically line 1 in a phone system and white-orange/orange pins 3&6 that is typically line 2. look at an rj11 connector of a phone cable. lines 1&2 line up with the rj45 pins. so our cabling is universal for phone lines or data lines. (my comments are my own and from my experience)
For the most part, other than if specifically required to use one vs the other, as long as both ends match, there's no reason you have to pick one standard over the other. If you need to make a crossover cable, you just make one end A, the other B.
That punchdown tool makes a lovely sound.
A groovy sound? :-)
I love the way you took charge and wrapped those wires ;)
AnotherJunglist, patch panels are extremely helpful when it comes to MACs (Moves, Adds, Changes). Without it, you would have to reroute a very long cable if you change your network setup.
With patch panels, you simply have to use a much shorter patch cord (3m length normally).
It's basically for management purposes.
Thats what I call as "Professional work".. Keep going... Great work.
Yes. Typically, the cable is only combed in the final room of use, after it's been run through the wall or ceiling. Combing the cable through the entire run would make the job twice as long. The vast majority of customers do not want to pay for the extra time and labor it would take to comb the cable behind a wall or in a ceiling, where no one will ever see it.
The more accurate statement would be customers want the cabling combed throughout the entire run but aren’t willing to pay for it
Using velcro is the best way, much easier to work with than cable ties, reusable too.
Another positive reason to use velcro strips over cable ties, in my opinion, would be the ease of removal. Simply pull the velcro apart, versus damage to individual cables when cutting off cable tie to remove.
Replying to my own comment here. I'm going for the T568B setup, because I've noticed that every single cable on the market has been terminated using a T568B system, so it makes sense to keep to that standard
If all cables were T568A, I'd probably go for that
Seems like having a 2nd Zip tie to "follow" (instead of repeatedly using hands to pull taut) would help immensely, esp. while coming behind it with those Velcro™ wraps.
Good idea!
Yes. I'll be purchasing that cable comb from the site soon. Thanks for doing a close up as to how to load it.....on another video it was already on. Keep up the great work!
I used to do cable back in 99 and would mind getting back into it. I just gotta brush up my cable punching skills and color codes.
Thank you for the video.i just got through running the cables to where the patch panels are going to be. this is my first time going to a commercial account thank you for your insight.
Thanks for sharing this techniques
My pleasure 😊
Great job ! and using Velcro is the best method -never tie wraps
You guys are pro's keep up the good work.
We agree! We used tie wraps only to get started then we used hook-and-loop for cleanup.
That's what we deduced, that he meant just plugging in patch cords directly to different computers throughout the building.
We addressed his question in our latest video series. The techs were given several questions on patch panels in the roundtable Q&A, and most of that information ended up in the Q&A Part 4 video.
“I use Velcro to keep from pinching the cable, but I’ll pull against and-ring all day.”
My favourite tool for a few years. In some situations, because of the amount of cables, had to use dish soap. For sure it’s better to use vaseline. Anyway... Awesome job guys!!!
Great product, wish there was one that worked with larger diameter instrument & RG cables.
I did some research and apparently ISO say to use T568A on all new installations? I know there's not a real difference between the two, but I found that interesting if true?
Though, most pre made cables and some seem to be T568B only. It's pretty confusing
Always learned that 568A is USA and in Europe we use 568B, at least that's what they told us during CCNA class. If you mix up both you get a fast ethernet cross cable, for a gigabit cross cable you also need to cross blue and brown.
Also, try to keep all pairs of equal length and twisted as much as possible (but don't twist it more than it was). For fast ethernet it doesn't matter a lot but gigabit can lose some speed on that.
US here. 1000s of cable runs later, Never done an install in A.
USA is 568B.
Its the law now in Australia. All cat installs must be fixed with hook and loop.
I don't want to pinch the cables with zip ties, but I'm going to continuously yank on the cables from the the D-ring.
Keep twist as close as possible and identical length on the pairs!
I could have used something like this 9 months ago! This is too cool.
So satisfying to watch. 10/10
Great video, learned a lot, thank you for posting this to youtube. Would like to see more installs but really interested in seeing different rack and patch panel installs. Neat stuff.
It's not recommended to reuse patch panels or jacks. The pins have already been wedged apart by a previous termination so you probably won't get the airtight seal you need.
That 110 tool gives a much better punch than a Krone
Nice vid, seems a handy item, and it does look very professional.
568A is mandatory in Govt because 568A is used in other countries, only the U.S. in its need to be different uses the old AT&T 568B method in commercial installs, why., who knows.
Thanks for the strategies you have shared here.
@AnotherJunglistuh I dont know about your data center but patch panels sure are handy to jump racks. As in you pre run overhead cable to specified patch panels ahead of time, then when you are hooking up a server/switch/router etc you can quickly jump racks to where you needed to go without having to add additional overhead cable etc. And you can you use measured cable so you dont have to crimp everything you do all at once. Saves a ton of time imo.
You could try getting an apprenticeship to learn the technical skills. You'd do stuff like accompanying a tech to a job site and observing what he/she does, practice cabling (in a test setting, not the client's building!), etc. Vendors like Toshiba and Cisco have certifications, so it also helps to study up on them and take the certification exams.
Nice!
Good video with regards to the cable combing.
However, the cameraman's comments that it's OK to use zip ties to bundle cable concern me. You should NEVER use zip ties on data cable. They can pinch the cable and open the cable braid on the twisted pairs inside the cable. Those twists exist, and are at a specific distance apart, in order to prevent interference and cross-talk in the cables. The twists per inch correlates to the max frequency of the carrier used on the cable. It essentially forms a Faraday Cage around the data lines. This gets more critical at higher frequencies.
Look at CAT-5 compared to CAT-6. The latter has much tighter twists. This is to shield the shorter wavelength (higher frequency) signals CAT-6 is rated for.
Also, we're supposed to be using TIA 568A for all new installs as per the standard, though in the US this is poorly adhered to.
Finally, when opening up the twisted pairs to insert into the punch block, always try to open less than one full twist of the pairs. In other words, the pairs should cross-over right up against the punch down block. The preserves the shielding up to the block.
Very nice product. It works greatly.
I watched this a while back...then I just watched it again...
You know, with the demonstration setting used, it'd be better to use two of them opposed from the middle for maximum neatness.
Very informative video! Hope I could use that cable comb, the cable looks so neat to look at
Nice tool. But at the same time you can use your hands to comb it out. Bundle of 24 throught the fingers using velcro that is pre cut .
Then cabling in the patch panel and wall jack has nothing to do with the compatibility of "other countries." The wall keystone jack must match the patch panel. 568B to 568B is straight-thru... as is 568A to 568A. If you use 568A on one side and 568B on the other side, you have a cross-over... which may not work for connecting end-devices: computers, routers, servers, or printers to a network switch or hub... though many new switches and computers support auto MDI/MDIX crossover detection.
This is a decent video for someone who needs some instructions. I personally don't use the comb, and still create the same look but not a bad toy. Terminations on patch panel should be a little better. Over 1/2" exposed copper. Overall, decent though.
Good stuff. Thanks.
Something missing. The Cable Comb and method shown doesn't have numbering sequence to terminate cables on port 01 - 24 for Straight panels or Angled panels. Imagine 24 ports patch panel to another 24 ports patch panel by combing cables in between … port 01 ≠ port 01 on the other end.
A cable toner makes this a non issue.
Hi there. Out of interest, what's the term for that sort of switch that the cable connects to without an RJ45 termination that you connect to in the video? The one in the rack mount?
It's literally called an ethernet patch panel.
If you're doing a modern installation, spend the extra $ and put in a shielded Cat6a patch panel.
Does it only work for Ethernet cable? Or can you use it with power cables as well?
I never knew i could want something i'd rarely use so bad
hi...may i know what kind of cutter you used for cutting cat5 wire?
thanks
I'm confused what you mean by "normal Ethernet ports/plugs"? Normal compared to what?
Dam that wire is tight ex special the brown one ☝️
are the cable combs available in Australia?
watching this video put me in a fucking trance and i couldn't look away. idk why i'm even watching this
I like the idea of this tool but......say you have just wired 200 outlets and every cable is numbered. You would have to sort cables into bunches of 24 cables first, then after combing them try and get cable #1 inline with the first connector on the panel. Other than running each cable up the rack starting at 1 ending at 24 I can't see how this would work.
Why not use a cable comb that has enough room to comb a bundle of 48.. I have not seen a 48 cable comb..
Link to the Punch Down tool used please. Surprised you didn't link it in desc after you made all that effort to show it off in the video.
Cable Comb Video
cable management, there's a lot to go about it.
Bundling Ethernet Cable with the Cable Comb and Terminating a Patch Panel
How do u use this Wire comb if you have numbers on the cables and you have to patch the in number orders?
Label maker?
how do i wire 2 cable t.v.'s and an internet modem to one 3-way splitter? please respond
good one for the standard techs
This guy is a genius
Thanks for this video Bro!I just learned something new, Good job!!!
Can someone explain to me why they don't just use normal Ethernet ports/plugs? Im just really curios because this stuff looks interesting.
cant find cable comb here in philippines, i really wanted that tool
Where can i buy this in Mexico?
Thanks a lot, very instructive video.
I think he meant the RJ-45 port that we use in our daily life.
I love doing work like this. It makes the geek In me happy. How do you get into this line of work?
i love this kind of work bro
So at 6:58, you have to do that for all the cables????? Thats a hard ass job
Excellent video
thanks for the video
You're welcome
I don't like Velcro for cables or PC's. When the cabling is Fresh or is in a durst free environment than yes go a head and use velcro.
But if its in a craw space or in a dusty place or you do not plan on fixing it your self. Just go with zips.
The problem is Velcro will turn into a dust ball, and if not used for a long time it will Stick together Like z zip or will come a part
i seen both. Some places it gets hot and some Velcro's glue's just start running and will stick it together or let the Velcro go.
But ether way, the way you guys are doing it, Dust free, ventilated and Very well supported i wont see this wiring job going bad any time soon
Marfnl disse.... my issue with zips is it’s hell to work in later
thanks
nice product... Have a whole bunch of this to do in the next few weeks!
what do you think Simon Miles ?
I like that a lot... I don't mind tidying cables but when you're on a deadline this would be handy.
@lbizzythefire I think that's what he meant
using gel will smooth your work a lot !!!
N-BASE Thank you very much
Alexandre Vassalo dá uma olhada na ferramenta ...
i love this invention
Awsome video, thanks
ahh Layer 1 work...I remember it when I first started, good times but it's not where the money is unless you own the company.
Hello friend. I will like to use your video on my TV channel. I Can? Thank you.
because the last thing you want to do is to have to un-twist the "pair" just to replace ONE cable.
Velcro rocks.
great video!
very useful tool
well done I learned alot
very nice video . Thanks...
very nice.
No velcro sticks :)
Is ever good look nice job, congratulations!
Ladder safety????
Awsime😊😊😊
I always find cable installers or computer companies are the worst at installing cables and equipment. They just plug things in and roll out. To be fair most of them.